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Speaker 1: I am Jesse Friedman alongside Jack Summers, back with another
Speaker 1: postgame edition of the show, and Jacket is a happy
Speaker 1: episode as the Diamondbacks not only beat the Dodgers in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, but do so in emphatic fashion a final
Speaker 1: score of nine to three. D Backs jump out on
Speaker 1: top in the first inning, Jack with a couple of runs,
Speaker 1: something we've seen quite a bit of in recent days.
Speaker 1: The Dbacks have been good at scoring in the first inning,
Speaker 1: and this time they were able to back that up
Speaker 1: and Eduardo Rodriguez was very very good on top of that.
Speaker 2: In the past, I've always had a fair on trepidation
Speaker 2: when we face a bullpen game. Seems like a lot
Speaker 2: of those have been pretty tough, and other teams bullpen
Speaker 2: games have been able to shut the d Backs down.
Speaker 2: That was most decidedly not the case tonight, And like
Speaker 2: you said, it started early and just kept building through
Speaker 2: all those middle innings and even laid into the game. So,
Speaker 2: you know, just a terrific win for the Diamondbacks and
Speaker 2: you know, good to see the Dodgers struggle the way
Speaker 2: they did.
Speaker 1: They were on the struggle bus throughout this game, Jack,
Speaker 1: there was there is a whole lot that went wrong
Speaker 1: on the Dodgers side of things, and I think that
Speaker 1: is undeniably a part of the narrative of this game. Like, yes,
Speaker 1: the d Backs did some things really well, the Dodgers
Speaker 1: also goofed up so many times that you felt like
Speaker 1: this game was kind of handed to you. Certainly having
Speaker 1: Shoho Tani scratched before this one, turning it into a
Speaker 1: bullpen game. As you said, that was also a big lift.
Speaker 1: I mean, anytime that happens, that's that's going to be
Speaker 1: a huge help. But we'll start with the positives, the
Speaker 1: things that Diamondbacks did do well in this game. I
Speaker 1: think if ever a game were to be rightly called
Speaker 1: the Tim Tala Game, I think this would be at Jack.
Speaker 1: He went three for four in this game, a home run,
Speaker 1: which was definitely the biggest swing of the night for
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. Game was still two to two at that point.
Speaker 1: Hits a two run shot to put the d Backs
Speaker 1: out in front four two. They never lost that lead
Speaker 1: from from that point forward. So just a huge game
Speaker 1: for Tala jack and it felt it felt even more
Speaker 1: significant maybe given that Tawas started the game at first base,
Speaker 1: and this obviously comes on the heels of the d
Speaker 1: Backs making a substantial decision there last night.
Speaker 2: King of the court, that's the phrase, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, he put his stamp on this game for sure.
Speaker 2: Jody Jackson was just asking him, you know, do you
Speaker 2: feel like tonight you made a statement? And he said, well,
Speaker 2: I think it was a really good step forward. He
Speaker 2: acknowledged that, and I think everyone would concur I mean,
Speaker 2: in addition to the home run, he had a couple
Speaker 2: of RBI singles, even stole a base. You know, Tim
Speaker 2: Tower's first thirteen games in the major leagues, he had
Speaker 2: two doubles, four homers, and at ten seventeen ops with
Speaker 2: nine RBIs. That was his first thirteen games. I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people forget that because subsequently, you know,
Speaker 2: he really had a tough time making the adjustment as
Speaker 2: the league started to just give him breaking pitches down
Speaker 2: and a way over and over. You know, he swung
Speaker 2: through those. You know it swung and missed at those,
Speaker 2: and then later just swung through and missed at everything,
Speaker 2: even in the middle of the plate, and the strikeouts
Speaker 2: just zoomed up. This year he had very sporadic playing time,
Speaker 2: but he went down to Reno and didn't hang his
Speaker 2: head and if anything, did the exact opposite and just
Speaker 2: absolutely crushed everything in everyone in his path. Earned a recall,
Speaker 2: and here he is. So look, you know Tim Tower
Speaker 2: had thirty one homers in twenty twenty four. We know
Speaker 2: he has power. That home run he hit tonight was
Speaker 2: four hundred and twenty nine feet. That was no cheapie,
Speaker 2: So you know more please obviously. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: he's still got a ways to go just to get
Speaker 2: over two hundred. So where he's you know, I think
Speaker 2: he's still like ten points off or whatever. But great
Speaker 2: to see. He's a good kid. You know, he works hard,
Speaker 2: good teammate, He really tries his best to play the
Speaker 2: game the right way, plays good defense, he tries to
Speaker 2: do all the little things. But he's got power, and
Speaker 2: you know, so if they can get some power out
Speaker 2: of first base, that's going to be a big, big
Speaker 2: change for the Diamondbacks. It's one game hopefully there's more
Speaker 2: to come.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you you mentioned that Tim Tawa has power,
Speaker 1: and I think it can be easy to forget that
Speaker 1: or to not really buy into that, given that, you know,
Speaker 1: he still has a slugging percentage that starts with a two.
Speaker 1: But I think there's legitimacy there. I tweeted this out
Speaker 1: during the game. Tawa's bat speed on that home run
Speaker 1: was eighty five miles an hour, which is a really
Speaker 1: big number, kind of number that not every Diamond back
Speaker 1: hitter is capable of reaching. Frankly, I think sixty backs
Speaker 1: hitters have reached that number this season, and the vast
Speaker 1: majority of them are Arectel Marte, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: certainly no surprises there. But Taala grades out well above
Speaker 1: average and bat speed. If you look at his Baseball
Speaker 1: Savant page, he's at an average of seventy four point
Speaker 1: two and well into the red in that regard. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what's made Tahua an interesting player from
Speaker 1: the time he came up, is that he has a
Speaker 1: decent approach at the plate, he can draw walks, and
Speaker 1: he also has this bat speed that theoretically could translate
Speaker 1: to power. And granted we haven't seen it consistently at
Speaker 1: the big leagues yet. There's still a long way to
Speaker 1: go for him. But a really nice night all the
Speaker 1: way around for Tawa. I think it's also worth mentioning,
Speaker 1: Jack that this is just five days from the day
Speaker 1: that Taala was brought back to the majors. Tawa has
Speaker 1: been optioned a couple of times this season, in both
Speaker 1: of those happening last month. And you and I, frankly,
Speaker 1: when when the d Backs made that move to bring
Speaker 1: Tawa back to the big leagues and to send down
Speaker 1: lou James Groover, it felt a little puzzling at the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, Groover was starting to find a rhythm at
Speaker 1: the plate, at least it felt that way. He wasn't
Speaker 1: getting much playing time, but he had a nice run
Speaker 1: in his final few games that he played. And then Tawa, frankly,
Speaker 1: had just struggled and in every stint he's had in
Speaker 1: the big leagues the past couple of years. So it
Speaker 1: was a puzzling move at the time, Jack, but Tawa
Speaker 1: certainly rewarded that decision tonight.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And look, you know you're gonna cycle guys in,
Speaker 2: You're going to try to get lucky the old catch
Speaker 2: lightning in a bottle, and they'll be looking at what
Speaker 2: he was doing in Reno and say, Okay, let's let's
Speaker 2: try this again. I think it's just as simple as that.
Speaker 1: Eduardo Rodriguez, of course, also a big part of the
Speaker 1: storyline in this game. You and I were texting after
Speaker 1: the first inning, Jack or I guess a couple of
Speaker 1: batters into the first inning and kind of wondering like, Okay,
Speaker 1: is this going to be the Duardo Rodriguez regression game
Speaker 1: or whatnot. Certainly Dodger Stadium is a place where something
Speaker 1: like that could happen, but it didn't. To e Rod's credit,
Speaker 1: he gave up back to back home runs to Otani
Speaker 1: and Andy pay Has to start the game, and he
Speaker 1: very quickly just put those swings behind him and continued
Speaker 1: to work around the edges. There was a little bit
Speaker 1: of hard contact here and there, but really not a
Speaker 1: whole lot. I think the Dodgers only had one batter
Speaker 1: one guy get to second base after those two home runs.
Speaker 1: The rest of the way through e Rod's outing six innings,
Speaker 1: two runs for him. He had five strikeouts in this game.
Speaker 1: Of course, the two homers that he allowed one walk
Speaker 1: in there as well. So yeah, I think you and
Speaker 1: I had debate about whether the d Backs should have
Speaker 1: should have sent him out for the seventh inning. Kind
Speaker 1: of a moot point with the way that this game ended.
Speaker 1: But we can say for sure e Rod was was
Speaker 1: very good once again, and he's going to carry a
Speaker 1: two point two nine e ra into the All Star
Speaker 1: Game in Philadelphia.
Speaker 2: Who was right on that debate?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not willing to concede there, Jack, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a right and a wrong when
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks win, you know, by six runs anyway, and
Speaker 1: we have no idea what would have happened if they
Speaker 1: left the Rod in there. But uh it, we can
Speaker 1: say that the game worked out just fine pulling e
Speaker 1: Rod when the Diamondbacks did. And the other benefit there
Speaker 1: is that e Rod maybe is in better position to
Speaker 1: actually pitch in the All Star Game on Tuesday, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure he would he would love to do that.
Speaker 2: I think that was a big point, and you know
Speaker 2: that that's being mentioned in the chat here as well. Look,
Speaker 2: you know he did it. He actually had two guys
Speaker 2: get to second base. He gave up a double Detucker
Speaker 2: in the fourth, and then Pat has hit that blop
Speaker 2: single that sent Brojas over the third in the fifth,
Speaker 2: but he got Freeman to ground out on a really
Speaker 2: sharply hit ball, and you know, I kind of that's
Speaker 2: when I started thinking, Okay, that ball was hit pretty
Speaker 2: hard to Vargas, and you know, the balls almost past
Speaker 2: him in the outfield when he spun and made that play.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the mile prower was on Freddy's shop,
Speaker 2: but it looked like a pretty was.
Speaker 1: Like one oho. I think it was one of six
Speaker 1: I remember.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that was a hard hit ball. And he
Speaker 2: comes out, so he gives up a line out to
Speaker 2: center field the Mookie Betts, and then he walks his
Speaker 2: first batter of the game, Tommy Edmond, but he gets
Speaker 2: Tucker looking and he gets uh Thiasko to pop out.
Speaker 2: So at that point, I honestly felt like, I think
Speaker 2: it's time just pull him. I know he's only eighty
Speaker 2: seven pitches, but you know he's probably gonna need at
Speaker 2: least a dozen fifteen pitches. You don't want to send
Speaker 2: him over one hundred heading into the All Star break.
Speaker 2: I just felt like everything in my gut said, yeah,
Speaker 2: pull them. They got an eight to two lead. I
Speaker 2: think scoring the two runs in the top of the
Speaker 2: sixth inning making it eight to two really gave Toy
Speaker 2: that buffer that he needed. So, you know, that's the
Speaker 2: way I kind of felt it was going to go
Speaker 2: down anyway. Was not surprised, and I was on board
Speaker 2: with it. But all that's a moot point, Like you said,
Speaker 2: looks six innings, seven hits, two runs, one walk, five strikeouts. Yes,
Speaker 2: the two homers. Edward Rodriguez is the Diamondbacks All Star pitcher,
Speaker 2: and well deserved. I mean, he's had just about as
Speaker 2: good a first half as any Diamondback has. I mean
Speaker 2: it might be one or two you could nitpick, but
Speaker 2: he's in the top three or four first halfs, you know,
Speaker 2: pre All Star break seasons any Diamondbacks really ever had
Speaker 2: as far as results are concerned, not with the strikeouts
Speaker 2: and the expected stuff. But we'll take the results.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll absolutely take the results. And I think e
Speaker 1: rod bouncing back to me was maybe even more impressive
Speaker 1: given that his last outing didn't end well either. I
Speaker 1: mean that was technically three consecutive batters that homered against
Speaker 1: EDWARDA Rodriguez if you go back to what Jake Bauers
Speaker 1: did in his last game against Milwaukee. So yeah, to
Speaker 1: see E Rod just just bear down and go to
Speaker 1: work from that point forward in a tough environment was
Speaker 1: really really impressive to see. So the Diamondbacks get a
Speaker 1: big win here against the Los Angeles Dodgers and Jack.
Speaker 1: Do we have a piece of news of some sort.
Speaker 2: Yes, Alex Degostino, my mate over at Diamondbacks on s
Speaker 2: I just texted me the update. He said, negative X rays,
Speaker 2: but still evaluating. In regards to Ryan Waldschmith.
Speaker 1: Well, if you're a if you've been a Diamondbacks fan
Speaker 1: for about a year or more, you've come to be
Speaker 1: very skeptical of negative X ray results. So we'll maybe
Speaker 1: hold out for a more thorough investigation there. On Ryan Waldschmidt,
Speaker 1: he was technically was a foul ball, but it also
Speaker 1: made contact with a couple of his fingers that looked
Speaker 1: like when he was attempting to lay down a bunch.
Speaker 1: So hoping for the best news on Ryan Waldschmid. At
Speaker 1: least a good starting point there with the negative X ray.
Speaker 1: We've got a lot more to get to in this episode.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Diamondbacks search for first
Speaker 1: base help, which I don't know. Maybe that's a mood
Speaker 1: point now too, Jack. Maybe they don't need it, Ryan,
Speaker 1: now that Tim tala is out here having three hit
Speaker 1: games and driving in four runs. But we will talk
Speaker 1: about what Mike Hazen said on that topic. We'll also
Speaker 1: discuss some injury updates and things that really could have
Speaker 1: a big impact on how the Dbacks approached the trade deadline.
Speaker 1: So don't go anywhere. We'll be back on Snake's territory
Speaker 1: right after this.
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Speaker 1: We are back here on Snake's territory, and hey, I
Speaker 1: guess we're gonna do it. We're going to just jump
Speaker 1: into this quote that is on the screen right now. Diamondbacks,
Speaker 1: of course, may make a big move last night the
Speaker 1: decision to designate Paven Smith for assignment. We discussed that
Speaker 1: in our episode last night, and Mike Hazen spoke on
Speaker 1: the possibility of the d Backs pursuing help at First Base,
Speaker 1: and he said that he is on the lookout for
Speaker 1: help at First Base. You can see in this story
Speaker 1: here from Nick Pacoro over at the Arizona Republic, Haysn said,
Speaker 1: I'm at the mercy of the market in some of
Speaker 1: those cases, I can't really tell at this point given
Speaker 1: the amount of teams and the playoff races on both sides.
Speaker 1: I can't see the trademarket heating up before the end
Speaker 1: of the month. Nick continues to write here. Hazen said
Speaker 1: he is looking into any type of potential fit rentals,
Speaker 1: multi year Big leaguers, even younger players, and so this
Speaker 1: is interesting Jack. I certainly would think the d Backs
Speaker 1: would be open to making an addition here if an
Speaker 1: opportunity arises. But it sounds like this is something the
Speaker 1: team is really pursuing and not just you know, looking
Speaker 1: at long term options. If you could find your first
Speaker 1: basement of the future, certainly the DBACS would be interested
Speaker 1: in that. But Hazan even mentioned the idea of getting
Speaker 1: a rental at first base as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we've we've talked about Nathaniel Lowe. I mean,
Speaker 2: he could fill that spot. You know, there are other
Speaker 2: players out there that could potentially be included in this.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I sent you a little report
Speaker 2: the other earlier today a number of players. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think it included fellas like Nolan Seanuel, which isn't
Speaker 2: a power guy, included Spencer Spencer Torkelsen, It included Spencer Steer,
Speaker 2: who's been kind of moved off first base, you know
Speaker 2: guys like that. I mean, you got to look at
Speaker 2: teams that are definitely selling. The other one was if
Speaker 2: the Nationals fall out of at Luis Garcia Junior but
Speaker 2: they're still in it, so they're not selling the Tiger
Speaker 2: email would they sell Torquas and they're only like three
Speaker 2: games out? But the Reds and Angels are almost definitely selling.
Speaker 2: You know, Spencer Steer, I mean he's got a seven
Speaker 2: forty nine career ops one on two ops plus eighty
Speaker 2: career homers. You know, I think he played center field
Speaker 2: the other day, so, you know, because he got moved
Speaker 2: off first thanks to sell Stewart. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, these are just some names that I
Speaker 2: was looking at. You never know who's going to show
Speaker 2: up on their actual radar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the name that really stands out is like, oh man,
Speaker 1: that would be awesome is Louis Garcia Junior from the
Speaker 1: Washington Nationals. And I know you mentioned that the Nationals
Speaker 1: are not in a cell position right now. That is
Speaker 1: definitely not the case today, but maybe it could be
Speaker 1: a few weeks from now when when these teams actually
Speaker 1: have to nail down these decisions. I Frankly am still
Speaker 1: skeptical that the Nationals would want to trade Luis Garcia
Speaker 1: Junior because I believe he has another year of team
Speaker 1: control after this one. And I mean they took they've
Speaker 1: taken a big step forward this season. If I'm them,
Speaker 1: I probably want to run it back with this guy
Speaker 1: who broke out and had a you know, an eight
Speaker 1: to fifty ops this season, or at least that's about
Speaker 1: where it is right now. He's been really really good
Speaker 1: for them, and it would bring some balance to the
Speaker 1: lineup as a left handed hitter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the situation there would be if they
Speaker 2: fell out of it, if they just, you know, all
Speaker 2: of a sudden lost seven in a row or something.
Speaker 2: And you know the other thing is is they need
Speaker 2: pitching in that organization, So you know, it would cost
Speaker 2: you a pitching prospect or two, you know, and so
Speaker 2: you'd have to be ready to give up somebody good,
Speaker 2: like a Mitch Bratt or something like that. Not proposing it,
Speaker 2: just saying that's a typical kind of kind kind of
Speaker 2: cost here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean I think that would be totally reasonable.
Speaker 1: I mean, Luis Garcia Junior has an eight eighty five
Speaker 1: ops now, so I mean, that's a really big number,
Speaker 1: and if they're going to actually let that guy go there,
Speaker 1: you know they're going to really want to get a lot,
Speaker 1: So that would probably be far fetched. And you know,
Speaker 1: scouring the market, it doesn't feel like there are any
Speaker 1: obvious fits here other than Nathaniel low I the d
Speaker 1: Backs want to go a rental route, it seems like
Speaker 1: he would be he would be available in terms of
Speaker 1: the internal options here. Jack. Of course, that's a possibility
Speaker 1: here as well. Hazen did not rule out that the
Speaker 1: d Backs could look at a Tyler Locklear or a
Speaker 1: Manuel Pania forcing their way into this conversation. Talked about
Speaker 1: Painya a little bit on yesterday show. Tyler Locklear has
Speaker 1: been on a pretty nice run here lately, Jack, I
Speaker 1: was crunching some numbers here on his game log. He
Speaker 1: has a where did I put this? He has an
Speaker 1: ops of eleven forty five over his last eleven games
Speaker 1: entering today, a good walk in strikeout rates. Today was
Speaker 1: also a big game for him. I know, he had
Speaker 1: a couple of hits in a walk and hit another
Speaker 1: opposite field home run, which was good to see. So Locklear,
Speaker 1: maybe you're a little skeptical of the Triple A numbers
Speaker 1: in particular because he put up huge numbers in Triple
Speaker 1: A last year and then when we saw him in
Speaker 1: the majors, it just didn't work. It didn't look good.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a world where Locklear forces his
Speaker 1: way back into this conversation. And of course lou James
Speaker 1: Groover is still is also in Triple A and very
Speaker 1: well could find his way back to the big leagues,
Speaker 1: just like Ryan Waldschmid did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it depends on who's available, who's selling,
Speaker 2: who they can get, and what the cost is going
Speaker 2: to be and whether they can meet it. And so
Speaker 2: you know, Mike's just saying I'm open to anything, whether
Speaker 2: it's a rental one or two year control guy. You know,
Speaker 2: he's got to be looking down the road and saying,
Speaker 2: you know, do I have a long term answer at
Speaker 2: first base? And they're still evaluating all that. Now. You know,
Speaker 2: performance can go a long way a nice hot streak.
Speaker 2: I mean, if Tower got hot, you know, just for example,
Speaker 2: and you know, interested out that this the next couple
Speaker 2: of games pretty good and came out of the break
Speaker 2: and you know hit well for the first week, does
Speaker 2: that cool MIC's jets. Did he say you know what,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna roll with this guy, or does he say, no,
Speaker 2: this is just a hot streak, I don't trust it
Speaker 2: and still try to make a move. That's that's a
Speaker 2: big question mark right there.
Speaker 1: I mean the thing with Tawa as well is he
Speaker 1: does play a variety of positions, So if someone like
Speaker 1: that gets hot, it doesn't necessarily preclude you from going
Speaker 1: out and upgrading at first base. You could move Tawa
Speaker 1: to basically anywhere on the diamond and maybe capitalize on
Speaker 1: his on his value that way. So yeah, there's maybe.
Speaker 2: Lordus Curiel's at best. He's over five again tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Lord is at bats jack have been They've
Speaker 1: been rough, and I know that people are talking about like, oh,
Speaker 1: he hit in every game in San Diego, and you know,
Speaker 1: there have been some positive signs, I guess, but at
Speaker 1: some point you got to see the slug And that's
Speaker 1: the thing that I've that I'm really waiting on with
Speaker 1: Lordis Guriel. And frankly, if it isn't there, I think
Speaker 1: he's just at a really difficult point in his career.
Speaker 1: Lordis Guriel cannot make a living hitting. You know, two
Speaker 1: forty two fifty with singles, He doesn't draw walks, his
Speaker 1: defense and left field is not what it used to be.
Speaker 1: So I think he's got to start hitting some homers
Speaker 1: here at some point. Jackie has just two on the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. I mean, you know, he's going to
Speaker 2: be the next person that's going to be in everybody's
Speaker 2: crossairs if he doesn't turn this around right away. And
Speaker 2: he has only got two more games before the break,
Speaker 2: and then those ugly numbers are going to sit there
Speaker 2: for five days, you know, and then he's going to
Speaker 2: come out of the break. Is he going to be hot,
Speaker 2: Is he going to be ready? Who knows, you know.
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't start, like you said, hitting with power,
Speaker 2: it's pretty much toast time for him as well.
Speaker 1: We don't need to go too deep on this. We
Speaker 1: weren't really planning to go down this road, but I
Speaker 1: am curious what what you're thinking of Corbyn Carrol right
Speaker 1: now and just the stretch that he's in. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think we need to be
Speaker 1: ultra concerned. I mean, Corbyn is a supremely talented athlete.
Speaker 1: He still as an ops in the mid eight hundreds,
Speaker 1: but I mean I think it's four for forty three
Speaker 1: something like that, that he's in that level of slide
Speaker 1: right now. And the eye test Jack looks I hate
Speaker 1: to say it, but it looks just about as bad
Speaker 1: as it did in twenty twenty four, when you know
Speaker 1: he was he was lost for a better part of
Speaker 1: the first half of the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm concerned, you know, be lying if
Speaker 2: I said I wasn't, you know, the two weeks into it,
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, you know, fine, he'll be all right.
Speaker 2: But you know we're past that point now. You know,
Speaker 2: this is really I mean, even before this forty four
Speaker 2: PA stretch, it was kind of uneven right for a while.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if there's anything wrong with him
Speaker 2: for I mean, he's just you know, he came back
Speaker 2: from the hemm, he's had tweaked his shoulder not too
Speaker 2: long ago, roaded his ankle earlier in the year. He
Speaker 2: had some back and groin injuries. Not injuries, but you know,
Speaker 2: he was banged up, and I think he's been playing
Speaker 2: banged up all year long, you know, and he's gonna
Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna go out to Seattle and he's
Speaker 2: got to travel and he's got to play a few innings,
Speaker 2: but you know, for the most part, he's only got
Speaker 2: to play about three innings maybe and take one or
Speaker 2: two at bats over the next you know, he's gonna
Speaker 2: have like four or five days of that and hopefully
Speaker 2: that allows him to heal up and come out of
Speaker 2: the break. If he comes out of the break looking
Speaker 2: like he does now, then it's you know, for a
Speaker 2: long fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard. It's hard for me to be alarmed by,
Speaker 1: you know, someone like Corbyn Carroll. We know how much
Speaker 1: he cares. We now talented he is, but yeah, the
Speaker 1: the eyes hasked, I mean, he just it's not just
Speaker 1: about him chasing pitches out of the zone. It's it's
Speaker 1: really just his ability to lack of ability to hit
Speaker 1: fastballs in the zone, and teams just continue to attack
Speaker 1: him that way. It has been very, very, very very
Speaker 1: effective against him. We have more to get to in
Speaker 1: the show. We're going to hit on the Diamondbacks trade
Speaker 1: deadline plans at large going into the deadline, which is
Speaker 1: now just a little over three weeks away. We got
Speaker 1: an injury update on Michael Soroka, which is interesting and
Speaker 1: some updates on some other guys as well, so don't
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Speaker 1: To get to some news here, jack I guess we'll
Speaker 1: pick up with the negative part of this, which is
Speaker 1: that Michael Soroka has had at what we I think
Speaker 1: can now call a setback in his progression returning from
Speaker 1: that glute injury. He threw a bullpen and didn't bounce
Speaker 1: back the way the d Backs wanted him to, and
Speaker 1: that bullpen has gotten pushed back. He is now expected
Speaker 1: to throw again on either Tuesday or Wednesday, and the
Speaker 1: team was initially hoping he could be back shortly after
Speaker 1: the All Star break. Now it seems like there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a bit of a waiting period even after the
Speaker 1: All Star break, and at that point Jackie wonder about
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, which is a little later this year
Speaker 1: on August third. Is pretty important for the d Backs
Speaker 1: to get Soroka from an on field standpoint, certainly, but
Speaker 1: also from a trade deadline standpoint, if this team is
Speaker 1: in position to sell, I think he is by far
Speaker 1: the most valuable piece they would have to offer.
Speaker 2: I mean, this keeps getting pushbacks to the point where
Speaker 2: you know, they're not using the words setback, but we are.
Speaker 2: They're using pushback. I mean, I think he threw a
Speaker 2: bullpen session on July fifth, and then he was supposed
Speaker 2: to throw another one around the ninth or tenth. That
Speaker 2: got pushed back to the twelfth Sunday, and now it's
Speaker 2: pushed back to next week Tuesday, maybe Wednesday, So you know,
Speaker 2: now you're looking at the fourteenth or fifteenth. I mean,
Speaker 2: they had a whole plan. He's going to throw a
Speaker 2: bullpen on the twelfth, and he was going to throw
Speaker 2: a bullpen on the sixteenth, and then from there the
Speaker 2: next outing was going to be lives and then maybe
Speaker 2: to a rehab start. And when he was on that timeline,
Speaker 2: I had mapped it out and it looked to me
Speaker 2: like he could probably get in two starts before the
Speaker 2: trade deadline. Now he's been pushed out again, and so
Speaker 2: now they're right up against it to try to find
Speaker 2: a way to get him at least one start before
Speaker 2: the trade trade deadline. So this has potential impacts may
Speaker 2: on many levels. Obviously, first and foremost is you know,
Speaker 2: Soroka's health and getting him back to pitching healthy. He
Speaker 2: was doing so well. Now he's got to get built
Speaker 2: up again. He's been down long enough that he's got
Speaker 2: to get built up. And even getting that one start
Speaker 2: before the trade deadline, I mean, he can't afford to
Speaker 2: have any more even one half hour of a setback
Speaker 2: to still be able to get that in. I think, So,
Speaker 2: how does that impact the trade deadline? If they're going
Speaker 2: well but they can't count on Soroka, they're going to
Speaker 2: have to go get a starter probably. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: if they're selling Soroka was their best trade chip, and
Speaker 2: who's gonna pay up for him now if they can't
Speaker 2: prove he's healthy. So there's a lot of multitude of
Speaker 2: potential impacts here.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's a great segue looking at the
Speaker 1: standings and seeing kind of the current picture right now.
Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks with this win, actually did gain a game
Speaker 1: in the wild card losses from both the Phillies and
Speaker 1: the Marlins. Today, d Backs now four and a half
Speaker 1: games behind the Marlins and the Phillies, who are tied
Speaker 1: for the second and third wild card spots right now.
Speaker 1: Padres lost today's the d Bacs have officially moved in
Speaker 1: front of them in the standings, and also worth noting,
Speaker 1: things have gotten a little bit closer in the middle here.
Speaker 1: Cardinals have cooled off a little bit. Pirates and Nationals
Speaker 1: are right there. Pirates at one game over five hundred
Speaker 1: Pirates or Nationals one game over five hundred Pirates the
Speaker 1: exact same record as the Diamondbacks here. So you know,
Speaker 1: there's a there's a world jack where if the d
Speaker 1: Backs can you know, somehow win a couple games against
Speaker 1: the Dodgers this weekend, a couple more games, which, granted
Speaker 1: as a very very tall ask, but there's a path
Speaker 1: here for the d Backs to you know, only be
Speaker 1: one or two spots away from from that third wild
Speaker 1: card spot, and even just needing to jump, you know,
Speaker 1: two teams to get in there, as opposed to the
Speaker 1: four teams that it is right now. That would that
Speaker 1: would make the discussion and feel feel a lot different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, the Dbacks have a long way
Speaker 2: to go here as far as actually being legit playoff contenders.
Speaker 2: They need to get on a run. It's just that simple.
Speaker 2: I mean, it would be great if they can win
Speaker 2: one of the next two games head into the break
Speaker 2: having taken a series in Doctor Stadium, they come out
Speaker 2: of the break and then they got a roll. I mean,
Speaker 2: they really got to just run rough shot over their schedule.
Speaker 2: They got to find a way to do that. There's
Speaker 2: got to be a six game winning streak. There's got
Speaker 2: to be eight of ten, eight and two stretch against
Speaker 2: decent teams and teams that they're fighting against, you know,
Speaker 2: to actually prove that they're capable of getting into a
Speaker 2: playoff spot and doing anything when they get there. You know,
Speaker 2: they have to show that they're a good baseball team.
Speaker 2: There's treading water. A couple of games on there, a
Speaker 2: couple of games over five hundred isn't going to get
Speaker 2: a I don't know if it's going to take eighty
Speaker 2: seven or eighty eight wins to get that third wildcard spot.
Speaker 2: I'm fairly confident it's going to take at least eighty
Speaker 2: four or eighty five. You know, so they got long
Speaker 2: ways to go just to get there. So let's let's
Speaker 2: see how that rolls out. You know, I'm the playoff
Speaker 2: odds guy, and I'm always putting him out there. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not really going to start paying a
Speaker 2: lot of attention to that personally until they're back up
Speaker 2: over twenty five thirty percent, Like you need at least
Speaker 2: a one in three dice roll before it's a serious consideration.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think that's fair. And that's why
Speaker 1: it's it's important for the Diamondbacks to uh to maybe
Speaker 1: jump over some of these teams in the middle here,
Speaker 1: the Nationals and and the Pirates certainly have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to do that. And Mike Hazen, in his discussion with
Speaker 1: reporters today also you know, talked about how the third
Speaker 1: the last wild card spot has has improved with the
Speaker 1: Marlins going on this surge, the threshold to get into
Speaker 1: the playoffs has has increased over the past couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and Hayzen talked about the d Bacs needing to meet
Speaker 1: that or even exceed that in terms of their their
Speaker 1: own pace right now. So it's it's a high bar
Speaker 1: to clear. With the picture in the National League, we
Speaker 1: can all dream about this baseball team being in the
Speaker 1: American League, where the d Backs would probably be in
Speaker 1: pretty comfortable by position right now. But that is that
Speaker 1: is unfortunately not the case you mentioned this weekend and
Speaker 1: the series the games, the game's coming up here. We
Speaker 1: do have an interesting development here, Jack, and it feels
Speaker 1: like maybe maybe you mentioning this on our show recently,
Speaker 1: is what made the Diamondbacks do this?
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't actually believe that, but there there is an
Speaker 1: odd coincidence here of you putting this out into the
Speaker 1: world and the Diamondbacks considering it kind of right around
Speaker 1: the same time, and that is Zach Gallen being used
Speaker 1: with an opener and Tory Leavello. This is also from
Speaker 1: Nick Pacoro's story today. Levello said the club is considering
Speaker 1: using an opener for right hander Zach Gallen on Sunday
Speaker 1: against the Dodgers. Nick notes, if it ends up happening,
Speaker 1: it would mark Allen's first relief appearance in eight seasons
Speaker 1: in the majors. And there's a quote from Tory here,
Speaker 1: We're thinking about anything possible at this point. We could
Speaker 1: potentially do that. They're going to hit Otani and Freeman
Speaker 1: at the very top, no matter who they're facing. It's
Speaker 1: a classic case for an opener. We did that with
Speaker 1: man to ply a couple times last year with Nelson
Speaker 1: and it worked well. So Yeah, I think it was
Speaker 1: a great point by you that this would be an
Speaker 1: opportunity for the Dbacks to try to salvage some value
Speaker 1: out of Zach Gallen. And the Dodgers are a great
Speaker 1: test case for this. I mean, it's one of the
Speaker 1: best offenses in baseball. They've got a couple of really
Speaker 1: good left handed hitters at the top, so you know,
Speaker 1: throw Brandon Garcia in the first inning and and maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that changes the mood of the game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Our good over at Arizona Sports Today is day
Speaker 2: about this on the radio show as well, And I
Speaker 2: guess Dave had seen me talk about this and see
Speaker 2: me write about this, so he went he used that
Speaker 2: as his inspiration to ask Tory, and Tory gave this answer. Now,
Speaker 2: it didn't take rocket scientists to try to think along
Speaker 2: with them and follow the bouncing ball. They didn't do
Speaker 2: this because I mentioned it. But you know, sometimes we
Speaker 2: can kind of figure out what the possible conversations are
Speaker 2: based on what we're watching. And I think a lot
Speaker 2: of it is not just me looking at it, and
Speaker 2: I think all the fans all our listeners can see
Speaker 2: a lot of the same things. So you know, certainly
Speaker 2: I wasn't the only one to think of that or
Speaker 2: to mention it, but it was good to see Dave
Speaker 2: Burns also get that question in front of Tory today
Speaker 2: and so that became a topic in the pregame interviews
Speaker 2: with Nick and the Gang as well.
Speaker 1: Other quick updates we want to give before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. Corbyn Burns has begun a throwing program.
Speaker 1: He had an MRI today that showed a significant healing.
Speaker 1: This according to the reporting of the guys out in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles right now, So good good news there. Jack
Speaker 1: Corbyn Burns still certainly a long ways away. He's going
Speaker 1: to have to start from ground zero again and try
Speaker 1: to build up to a starter's workload. So I don't
Speaker 1: think this necessarily means, oh now he can come back
Speaker 1: in August instead of September. We're probably still looking at
Speaker 1: September here, but maybe there's a world where it's it's
Speaker 1: the beginning of September as opposed to the end. And
Speaker 1: if the dbacs are you know, two or three games
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs or whatever on September first sliding
Speaker 1: Corbin Burns into the rotation. It would make for a
Speaker 1: fun storyline if nothing else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be great to have him back. You know,
Speaker 2: even if it wasn't in a rotation. Maybe he just
Speaker 2: came back as a long release and you know, built
Speaker 2: up two, three, four innings and you know, maybe you
Speaker 2: get in the postseason and you can use them. You know,
Speaker 2: certainly it would be great to have him back. Hey,
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