1 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: What's that at the bed and you keep I'm pretty 2 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: sure it's dead. It's coming this way. 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he. 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Said, Hira's j e plase, Hey boo, it's me Ro's dress. 5 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: fALS Oh. It's like so halloweeny right now. And I 6 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: am just having the time of my life and I'm 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: so happy to keep hearing from you guys. And I 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: wanted to read something that I saw in the Facebook 9 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: group ghosted by Rob's dress fuls. This one came from Deborah, 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: and I definitely wanted to shine some light on this because, uh, 11 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: she's she's looking for suggestions and she hasn't really gotten 12 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: any yet, so maybe we can help her out. Deborah says, 13 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: I really need help with some either spiritual healing, entity removal, 14 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: or just plan out venting, because I'm sure whatever is 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: happening someone out there can explain scientifically and I'm totally 16 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: open to that. Ever since I moved in with my 17 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: now husband, I have had occasional experiences in our bedroom. 18 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: We met as management consultants, meaning our life meant flying 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: out to another state to work for our clients every 20 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Sunday and flying home every Friday. I found a job 21 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 1: in town in twenty twelve and moved in with my husband, 22 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: who was still traveling. Quite often, on a Wednesday or 23 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: Thursday night, I would hear someone walk up the stairs 24 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: and walk across the room, then feel them lay down 25 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: next to me and stroke my hair. We live in 26 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: a house that was built in the nineteen fifties, so 27 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: you hear every sound in the house, and you know 28 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: when people are walking around and where they are exactly. 29 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: I should probably caveat that. Several years ago I learned 30 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: that the grass Park a quarter mile away is a 31 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 1: potter's field for an old asylum that was just down 32 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the street, and the local university did an archaeological study 33 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: of mapping out what is still there and there are 34 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 1: quite a few unidentified graves. This is in Schneider Park, Akron, Ohio. Okay, 35 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 1: so back to the scariness. So when I first knew 36 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: I was pregnant, it was two weeks from me resigning 37 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: from my job to finish my doctorate degree, and I 38 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: got tired and decided to take a nap. I wasn't 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: asleep yet when I heard something creep up the stairs slowly, 40 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: and I looked up and saw a black dog looking 41 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: creature creeping up towards the bed like a cat normally does. 42 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: I looked over the edge and I didn't see it. 43 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, it jumped up at me 44 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: and I screamed. For some reason, the thoughts that went 45 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: through my head was that I was pregnant. I know 46 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: the hormones can give you a weird dream, so I 47 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: was praying that that's what was going on and that 48 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: I wasn't having a demon baby. Well, I found out 49 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: I was having twins, and the entities started making an 50 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: appearance every couple days, where it would snuggle up with 51 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: me and stroke my hair. I would wake up suddenly 52 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: hearing the creaking of the stairs and the floor towards me. 53 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: Then I would feel the weight of it on the 54 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: bed next to me, and it would stroke my hair 55 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: and pull me into it and snuggle. Fast forward about 56 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 1: four years later, after my twin girls were born, we 57 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: were moving out of state. I had a ton of 58 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: sleepwalking instances in those four years, which is a whole 59 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: other creepy ass story. Anyways, lately, at night, I've started 60 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: to be harassed. It would lay with me and snuggle. 61 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: Then I would get the feeling that it would get 62 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: pissed because we were leaving, so it starts either pulling 63 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: the covers on and off my head or totally off 64 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: of me, like it was throwing a fit that we 65 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: were leaving. Two weeks ago, we moved all of our 66 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: stuff to our new house and just had a very 67 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: uncomfortable flat ass futon mattress and air mattress, and my 68 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: girls were staying the night with Grandma so we could 69 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: get some renovations done. I was woken up suddenly by 70 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: my husband, who was on the futon mattress across the room, 71 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: fighting violently by kicking and pushing something off of him 72 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: in his sleep. I immediately sat up and turned my 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: phone flashlight on and saw a black haze hanging over him. 74 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: I told it to go away, and it disappeared. Then 75 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: I realized it was three point thirty three am when 76 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: I used the flashlight on my bown. So I rolled 77 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: over and heard him get up and walk across the 78 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: room and felt his weight on the air mattress as 79 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: he laid next to me, only to look up and 80 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: he was still over on the food town so it 81 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: wasn't even m The entity then gathered me into its 82 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: arms and snuggled me into it, and I felt safe 83 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: and went back to sleep. Now that we were almost 84 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: done with renovations and ready to sell, it keeps breaking 85 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: our appliances and also our car, and keeps making an 86 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: appearance in the corner of my eye and knocking random 87 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: stuff down that would absolutely not fall over by itself. 88 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: Trust me, I'm a true skeptic. I also sneezed upstairs 89 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: and heard someone a couple feet away shushing me. Oh 90 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: my god, there was no one there, and I made 91 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: an at two screaming a little at the end, so 92 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: I know for a fact that it wasn't an echo, 93 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: since I didn't even make any sebling semblance of the 94 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: shushing sound that I heard. So long story not made short. 95 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: I keep getting randomly nauseous and the feeling like I 96 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: all of a sudden am restless and crawling out of 97 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: my skin. And I know for a fact that I'm 98 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: not pregnant again. I just feel like something has either 99 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: attached itself to me or there are totally scientific explanations, 100 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 1: but it's not easy to distinguish. I really and desperately 101 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: need some advice. Okay, so that was the end of it. 102 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: But then she also wrote does anyone know of a 103 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: psychic healing in either Akron, Ohio, Frederick Maryland. Something isn't 104 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: right and I need some help. So at least a 105 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: day had gone by when she wrote that second thing, 106 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: so let's help her out. That sounds absolutely terrible. I mean, 107 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: the snuggling kind of sounds nice, but I agree that 108 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: would be a major nuisance. And I you know, for me, 109 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: I would recommend talking to Elena, and if you're not 110 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: familiar with her, listen to our episode a couple of 111 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: weeks ago with Elena and she'll tell you all the 112 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: ways that you can get a hold of her. So 113 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: that was left in the Facebook group, And thank you 114 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: guys so much for constantly sending me your ghost stories 115 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: and your questions and all that stuff. I would like 116 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: to ask if you could just make sure you do 117 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: it either in the Facebook group or on a five 118 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: star review on Apple Podcasts. And if you don't have 119 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: either Apple Podcasts or Facebook, you could send it to 120 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,119 Speaker 1: ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com. I keep getting 121 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: messages of stories sent to my Instagram at Royals Dressflas 122 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: or my Facebook page, and it's so many places that 123 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: these ghost stories are coming in. So if we could 124 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: just keep it to Facebook, Apple, podcasts or an email, 125 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: that would be fabulous. On with the show, you guys, 126 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: I am honored to have in the house. Joey Yay, Jillie. 127 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: I'm like such a mad TV fan, and that's when 128 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: I first fell in love with you. I like distinctly 129 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: remember certain things that you did. Yeah, I remember you 130 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: doing Drew Barrymore. 131 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, one of my favorites. I'm so excited 132 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 2: to be here. 133 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: I'm serious. Yeah, But because it was so random, I 134 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: how I met you. I was doing for the The 135 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: Better Skin co. We did this campaign for all people 136 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: and I met you. I saw you there and I 137 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: was like, wait, I know her, Oh really totally. And 138 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: I've also seen you do stand up like for years. 139 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: That is so random and I love it. 140 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: No, I'm a fan, oh my gosh. And I don't 141 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: know how it came up, but I had just been 142 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: with Deborah Wilson, like very shortly before we shot that 143 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: thing when I met you, and then her name came up. 144 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: And then it turns out that you guys are like 145 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: great friends. 146 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 2: Yep. She's like like we call each other's sister goddesses. 147 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: That she is truly a goddess. 148 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: She really is. 149 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the listeners of the show love Debra because 150 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: she was our first episode was. 151 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,239 Speaker 2: Definitely really well, you know, because she's had many experiences 152 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: oh my gosh. 153 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,199 Speaker 1: Yes, which I didn't even I couldn't have even I 154 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: couldn't have asked for anything better. Like she's like when 155 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: I first met her, I was like, Okay, I need 156 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: her in my life. And then it turns out she's 157 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: like goddess of the paranormal. 158 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: Mm hm, and she takes on she's so like she's 159 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 2: a different level too, because sometimes when people are ghost 160 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: hunting or she doesn't like to call it ghost hunting 161 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: and she mainly calls it inexperience like just and so 162 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: and so, many people are like ooh ah, but she 163 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: gets empathic with them, yes, And she can take on 164 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: the feelings and be in that moment and really like 165 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: channel them and then be okay afterwards. Like I would 166 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: be like, it's attached to me forever, you know, but 167 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: she can and let actually let it go. It's a 168 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 2: pretty it's a pretty magical person to be able to 169 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: do that. 170 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: So being friends with her, you've probably have you experienced 171 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: things with her like ghosts. 172 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: Well, we're big haunted house people, so like when watch, 173 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 2: we're like already freaked about, like it's coming out and 174 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,719 Speaker 2: we already found like an it maze that we want 175 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: to do. And yeah, we find all these different weird 176 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: haunted places all the time and we go to them, 177 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: even if it's like in the we went to that. 178 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 2: I love scary movies. I think we spent like four 179 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 2: hours in there, like taking pictures with all the sets 180 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: and everything. So it's all year round with us, like 181 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: we try to find anything that's like haunted or whatever 182 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: we try to do. And as far as like seriously 183 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: ghost hunting, you know, we all have like a different 184 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 2: translation of what that is. And I'm not big into 185 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: the monitors, the EVPs and all that kind of stuff 186 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 2: because I really think it's based on feeling. Yeah, and 187 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: when you can feel something, And that's what we'll talk 188 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 2: about like later with what we're developing this TV show 189 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: is because when you can feel something, you become more 190 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 2: empathic and you can tell the stories. I used to 191 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 2: think that you're supposed to clear things. I'd be like, 192 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: why are all these shows don't clear the space? Like 193 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 2: what is wrong with them, let them cross over. But 194 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: I realized that sometimes these energies don't want to cross over, 195 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: that they want to stay here, So you don't want 196 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 2: to impose that, you know, it's like going to war 197 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 2: with them. So you're just like, I'm here, I'm going 198 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 2: to listen to your message and whatever you have to say, 199 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: and then I will leave you and let you be, 200 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: you know, because I'm respectful of what's going on. So 201 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 2: I've learned that in the past, because I've been like, 202 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 2: let's clear the space. 203 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: You can get them out of hair, let me get 204 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: my sage, come home, because I feel like, yeah, I 205 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: think ghosts exists for many different reasons, but I think 206 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: that sometimes they maybe sometimes they don't even know that 207 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: their ghosts, and other times they're like whatever their reality 208 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: is is probably so different than ours, and it's like, 209 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: this is my house. Why are you trying to get 210 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: me to leave? 211 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: You? Guys are bad and I mean, and if you 212 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 2: want to go to the quantum's physics level, you know, 213 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: there's different frequencies and there's different parallel lives going on. 214 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: There's all these different things. So what am I to 215 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: say that this isn't your house? They might be living 216 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: on a different plane. If you ever saw with that 217 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: movie the Others. 218 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was think. 219 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: Kid mean, yes, so they thought they were living and 220 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 2: thought she was a ghost and vice versa. So it 221 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: that is very I find that that is my truth 222 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: that I've realized because I used to think it was 223 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: outside of us, but because of my experiences, I believe that, 224 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: you know, we do have these different parallels going on, 225 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: and we got to be respectful and those energies Like 226 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 2: when you feel like, oh, my gut is telling me 227 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 2: not to do that, it's your your god like nature, 228 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: your your instincts, and I think it's your people around you, 229 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: your energies around you. They're like, well, well, hey, hey, 230 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: don't do that, because we see what's going to happen, 231 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 2: or we're already have experienced it, you know, so we're 232 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 2: telling you don't do that. And then it's like when 233 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: you just go through it, like yeah, I told you, 234 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: like oh, and it's really bad. And I think that 235 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 2: bad situations when you don't follow your gut happen, and 236 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 2: it has to be really bad for you to go. 237 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: I need to trust this more. And it's a reminder 238 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: to trust that instincts because I do believe that there's 239 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: energies around you that are protecting you. If you want that, 240 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: you have to ask for it too, because there are 241 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: some people that are closed off, you know, and they 242 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 2: just and they have bad energies with them. And I 243 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: don't believe in I don't believe in really malicious energies 244 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: because I do believe that whatever you believe is your truth. 245 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 2: So I choose to not. 246 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: You don't believe that they even exist? 247 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 2: Well, I know, like there's other people I've had experiences 248 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: and I've I've witnessed that Deborah had an experience that 249 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 2: it was a malicious entity. But because I go in 250 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: and I go, I choose not to believe this. We 251 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: are what we believe, and therefore they don't come to me. 252 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 2: So I do feel like if my little hairs on 253 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: the back of my neck go up, then I will 254 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: go no, thank you, and I'll walk away from this. 255 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to venture into that situation. I just 256 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 2: don't want that experience. 257 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Yeah, right, So that's what keeps me up 258 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: at night, right, But some people. 259 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: Do, some people thrive off that. 260 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, never mean, why, you know, I don't. 261 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's 262 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 2: it makes them feel better that they have a better 263 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: life than that person. I don't know. Yeah, I have 264 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: no idea. 265 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: When did you first have a paranormal experience? 266 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: I was pretty I was pretty young, and this was 267 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: a reminder as I got older, I guess I had 268 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: shut it off and I didn't. I didn't know this. 269 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: So my first experience that I remember remember was I 270 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: was actually going to college in Orlando at UCF and 271 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 2: my sister had graduated about from FIU earlier, so she 272 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: came to live with me, and I was like all 273 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: excited because now me and my sister were finally getting along, 274 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: like we hated each other growing up, and you know, 275 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: now that we're older, it was like, oh, we're gonna 276 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: roommates and all this stuff. So there was we had 277 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: this apartment that was in where like the old Orange 278 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: Groves are where by UCF is and it used to 279 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 2: be burial Indian burial grounds, and I had no idea. 280 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: So the energy is very thriving or whatever, and I 281 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: was sitting in my bed. I remember we had like 282 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 2: a like a double sink and then the doors opened 283 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: up and you could see the sinks from our bedrooms 284 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: and they were side by side, and my door was open, 285 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: and I was reading a book on my bed and 286 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: I looked up and there was this image of a 287 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: little girl standing there with pigtails, and she had a 288 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 2: white T shirt on and she crossed her arms and 289 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: leaned against the wall. 290 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: She had a T shirt and pigtails. 291 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it was that that distinct in my brain. 292 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: Like I saw this image and I went, what the 293 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: heck is that? And then I just like looked back 294 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 2: down at my book and I said, go way, go way, 295 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: go way. Look back up and she wasn't there, and 296 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 2: I was like, don't want to sleep alone. I don't. 297 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: So I went into my sister's room and I ran 298 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 2: in there and I was like, can I can I 299 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: sleep in here with you? Please? Like and she was 300 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: like yeah, whatever, And I slept in there. And the 301 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 2: next morning she went to work and I got a 302 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: call from her and she goes, what the hell was 303 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: wrong with you last night? And I was like, oh, nothing, 304 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: don't worry about it. And she's like, no, you were 305 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: at the foot of the bed all night wearing a 306 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: white T shirt and pig tails and you were hitting 307 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: my ankles and I went what and she's like, you 308 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: were like I don't know if you're on your knees 309 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: or whatever, cause you were like little like and she 310 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 2: was like, and I kept like telling you, and my 311 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 2: mind was so tired. I was like stop, and you 312 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: kept hitting my ankles. 313 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: So I was like, oh my gosh. 314 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: I was like freaking out. And then I told her 315 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 2: and we were we both were like, it was freaked out, 316 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: like to the nines. And I was trying to get 317 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: my sister away from her husband that is now, because 318 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: they were together since she was like eighteen, and I 319 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 2: was like I hated him, like since I was a kid. 320 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: I was like, ooh. 321 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: So I always wanted her to go on dates and 322 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: I was always trying to set her up. So she 323 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 2: went on a date and when she came back from 324 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: her date, all her stuff from her closet was thrown 325 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 2: all over the floor. And at that moment, that's when 326 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 2: we were like, we need to move. We were like 327 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: we're getting out here because we didn't know what this was. 328 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 2: We didn't know because I had just now started opening 329 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 2: up to this and she hadn't told me about stuff 330 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: when I was a little girl. Yet, so we slept 331 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: in the living room together. We had a breakout of 332 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: these German cockerroaches that were coming out in the living 333 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: room trying to get us, like and we were like 334 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 2: sleeping on the floor. They started all of us. We 335 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: were like, what is happening? We broke the lease. And 336 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: when we were moving and we were getting all our stuff, 337 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: on the back of my door was carved six and 338 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 2: it was painted over, and I went, I would have 339 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 2: seen that when we moved in, Like, what the heck 340 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: is that? And I showed it to her. We freaked out. 341 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 2: We'd left, Okay, so that was that was that I 342 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 2: let it. Got so many questions, right, but watch what happens. Okay, 343 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 2: this is what's crazy. So now my sister marries that 344 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: guy that I couldn't stand, and now they're married at 345 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: their wedding because now I had moved to Los Angeles 346 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 2: and so it was like about three years later and 347 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: on the plane I wrote a poem that just comes 348 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: out because sometimes when I write, I like just channel 349 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: and I write with the heart and then I look 350 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 2: at it and sometimes I'm like that's great, and sometimes 351 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: are like, what the hell. But this one was in 352 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: the poem. It said, you're going to bring me a 353 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 2: little girl and all this yourself. My sister gets pregnant 354 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 2: on the honeymoon and we're it was Halloween right before 355 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 2: she was born, and because she was born in November, 356 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: so my sister was really pregnant, and we played with 357 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 2: the Wuigi board. Uh oh, I will never do that again, 358 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 2: never never. 359 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: Uh. What happened. 360 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 2: We were playing with the Ouigi board and I asked 361 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: if I was ever going to have a kid, and 362 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 2: it spelled six, and I went, Okay, that was really 363 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: I was like, she said, that's so weird, and we 364 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 2: were like laughing about it. 365 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: Did you connect it to the yes, so. 366 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 2: We connected to the apartment and we're like, that's so crazy, 367 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: and we you know, just trying to dismiss it. And 368 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: then my niece was born Daisy, so she was my 369 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 2: sister got pregnant on the honeymoon, and then my niece 370 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 2: was born. My niece, when she was little, she took 371 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: the number six off their Fredericks, you know, the kids 372 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: have all those magnets, and she would take it and 373 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 2: always throw it on the floor, throw it on the floor. 374 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 2: So my sister would send pictures all the time and 375 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 2: be like, look at this, look at this is so weird. 376 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: My niece turned six years old. My sister is sleeping 377 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 2: on her bed taking a nap. She woke up to 378 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: my niece wearing pigtails, wearing a white T shirt hitting 379 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: her ankles, and my sister called me immediately and I went, so, 380 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: I do believe that she came to visit us before, 381 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: and she didn't want my sister to date anybody else 382 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: because she needed her to marry this man so then 383 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: she could come. And so that was at that point, 384 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 2: and that's when I really started opening up back up again. 385 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 2: And that's when my sister told me, you know, when 386 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 2: you were little, used to talk and tell you that 387 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: you see things, and about like six years old, you 388 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 2: shut it down because it was overwhelming for you. Do 389 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 2: you remember all that? And I was like no, and 390 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: she's like every morning you would go, I can't hear, 391 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: I can't hear, make them stop talking to me, and 392 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: I was like I So then little pieces started to 393 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 2: come through, like oh, I do remember, like why I 394 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 2: would used to like sit on the toilet when I 395 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 2: was little, and I would just go like because it 396 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: would be like in my ears, and it was like 397 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: flashes like momento and so, and I had convulsions, like 398 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: I died when I was two years old, So I 399 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: think I had a different kind of level of consciousness. 400 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 2: My veil is smaller than a lot of other people. 401 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: I can connect faster. 402 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 403 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, So I believe that they if you are 404 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 2: open to it, and which I didn't even know I 405 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: was open to it, people will come to visit you. 406 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: They'll let you know like you're coming. And and so 407 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 2: that was my first like incredible, like huge experience which 408 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: opened the doors to yeah. Yeah, wait. 409 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: So that so it wasn't a ghost like, it wasn't. 410 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 2: Well they it was so ghosts to me are our energies, 411 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 2: you know. And it could be from past lives. It 412 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 2: can be from it could be from the future. It 413 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: could be like just letting her know because we're all connected, 414 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 2: you know, and I feel like this is not the 415 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: only lifetime we've lived, you know, it's why not no, 416 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: So you know, it could have been from that we 417 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 2: were all in a past life together, which I'm sure, 418 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 2: and she was letting us know where I'm coming in 419 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 2: this forum. I'm coming in this form, like I know 420 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: my dog came in this form for me because he 421 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 2: was like, this is the only way, bit you're gonna 422 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: listen to me. 423 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: So I'm coming like. 424 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 2: This, you know, because the way he looks at me 425 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: and we communicate, I'm like, you're not just a dog, 426 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: like you're there's something special here. 427 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: So, but what was going on in that apartment with 428 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: like the stuff coming out of the closet. 429 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: I think it's because she she was mad. She didn't 430 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: want my sister to date somebody else. Oh okay, So 431 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 2: I think she was mad and reason. I don't know 432 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 2: why the all the little cockerroaches came and all that 433 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 2: kind of stuff, And maybe it was just to make 434 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: us aware to be like, wake up, wake up, you guys, 435 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: like I'm here. 436 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: So you guys were thinking that it was a haunted 437 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: apartment totally at the. 438 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 2: Time, but it really was totally. But it wasn't a 439 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: haunted apartment. 440 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: Because it ghosts. I mean, I can't think of many 441 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: stories where I hear like a little pigtail t shirt ghosts. 442 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: I when I hear a little ghost girl, I think 443 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: full on ruffles and like a dress that goes up 444 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: to the neck right you know, some spooky seventeen hundreds, or. 445 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: Or like the Asian the Asian scary movies where their 446 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: hair is like. 447 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: All on their Yeah. Yeah, gosh, the Grudge. 448 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: The Grudge seven days, Yeah. 449 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh. 450 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 451 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 1: Speaking of what do you think of this look I'm 452 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: pulling off? I think it's fabulous, this gorgeous gown that 453 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm wearing. 454 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: You also have like you have like an animal print 455 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: going on, which is like. 456 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, it's a floor length leopard and the 457 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: little hints of zebra. 458 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: And little hints of zebra. But what I really love 459 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: is that your eyes match the animal's eyes in the 460 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 2: dress like it is. It's like, how did you get 461 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 2: that look? Like how did you even? I mean, I 462 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 2: was a tiger in a past, like you must have been. 463 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: Okay, back to ghost stories. So when so, now that 464 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: you're after this experience, you're kind of awoken to this. Yeah, 465 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: so where does that lead you? 466 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 2: Well, that leaded me to really start to open up 467 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: with the paranormal. So when I would go to comedy clubs, 468 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: every comedy club is like haunted, I know. Yeah, So 469 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: when I would go there, the first thing I'd ask 470 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 2: is like Oh my gosh, is it haunted because they're 471 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 2: old A lot of them, Like my favorite one was 472 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 2: in Fresno at the prov and Fresno or actually no 473 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 2: no San Jose Improv that one. Houdini and Charlie Chaplin 474 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 2: used to perform there. So it's very old, like it's 475 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 2: a it's an incredible building. But when I first walked in, 476 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: I went, uh, this is totally haunted. Like you can 477 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: feel then once you open yourself up, you can feel 478 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 2: when things are touching you are present, or like it 479 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: feels thick, the air feels thick. Daisy, my niece, came 480 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 2: to me in that form that was that's a very 481 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 2: unusual thing to to really see something. It's usually uh, 482 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 2: just you feel the energy and there can be like 483 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: you can you know, like when you're driving in something 484 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 2: you feel from me from the perifield vision You're like, 485 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: what was that? It's like that kind of stuff. So 486 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: you don't really like see it see it, but sometimes 487 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: people do, like it just depends, uh. But the San 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: Jose Improv. We then we finally got we got a 489 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 2: ghost hunter that came in and he brought all his 490 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: like stuff to the last night we were there, the 491 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: Saturday night, we went and did a tour and we 492 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 2: learned the history of it and why these energies are there. 493 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: So because I felt it the most, like when I 494 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: was off stage and right before I would get on, 495 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: there was this weird it was kind of negative. It 496 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: was a thing of like prove yourself like it was that, 497 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 2: and I was like, whoa, like you should be like 498 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: rooting for me, like stop. And I had to sit 499 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 2: like and do like a prayer to be like, don't 500 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: do that to me. I'm here to have fun. I'm 501 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 2: not getting in my head. Stop like leave me alone, 502 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 2: Like that was your deal, That's not my deal, yea. 503 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 2: And then I went out there. But what we found 504 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: out in the ghost hunt in the history of it 505 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 2: is that these theater companies used to tour and they 506 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 2: would sleep in the theaters. They would have like bunks 507 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: and everything and they would sleep there. So this particular 508 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 2: theater there was underground, so we went under and there 509 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: was the whole place where they used. 510 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: To have the bus. 511 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: It was creepy. It was really creepy, and everybody died 512 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: there because there was a fire. So a whole theater 513 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 2: company died in that theater. 514 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh my god. 515 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. So I went, well, there you go like that. 516 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 2: That was like that's why I felt that person or 517 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: whatever that thing was telling me like prove yourself. You know. 518 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: It was just like you know, because I went, oh, 519 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: they're all here, the actors, and you know actors are 520 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: the most insecure people. 521 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: It was some actor that was like, who's this, Yes, yes, 522 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: I should be up there. 523 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 2: All right, And what do you think you're doing? Yeah? Yeah, 524 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, no, no, that's not that's not why 525 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 2: I do this, so stop it. But I have another 526 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: really good one. 527 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, this one. 528 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: I was dating this guy, right, You're gonna love this, 529 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: and his place was always felt uneasy to me. Was 530 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 2: here in La. It was by the Kabbala Center, like 531 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 2: Robertson and Olympic that area. 532 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, it's a mid city. 533 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 2: Mid city is people that don't know. There's a lot 534 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: of Hasidic Jews that live there. It's very a religious area. 535 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 2: So I was dating him and I remember I could 536 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: never sleep in like in his bed, like I was 537 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 2: always like, you know, just fussing around, fussing around, fussing around. 538 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: And I remember one time I'm like just like laying 539 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 2: there and just staring out and at the foot of 540 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: the bed, I felt the presence. 541 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: Okay, did I have pigtails? 542 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 2: No, this was just like a presence, right. And the 543 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 2: thing is is that I think for me, I feel 544 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: what the person looks like. I don't see them because 545 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 2: I've asked not to see it anymore. After Daisy, I 546 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: was like, I don't want to see it because it's 547 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 2: just too much. So I felt a woman energy. I 548 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: felt her mad that we were in her home and 549 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: she was pasting back and forth of the bed and 550 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 2: I could feel it, and so in my mind's eye, 551 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: I said, please, can you just stop? I really need 552 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,479 Speaker 2: to go to sleep. Just stop. And then I felt 553 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: the push of the bed like she sat down at 554 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 2: the edge of the bed, and I'm like, okay, this 555 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 2: is ridiculous. I can't deal with this. And so I 556 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 2: didn't say anything. And then the next time I spent 557 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: the night there, the same thing, and I'm like, okay 558 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: this I and I finally went Okay. In my mind's 559 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I acknowledge you. I know you're here. 560 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 2: I have to go to the bathroom. Please don't scare me. Okay, 561 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 2: I really don't want to get scared, and I just 562 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: won't go to the bathroom and come back to bed. 563 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: I need to go to sleep. So I'm walking out 564 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 2: and walking out and I'm sitting on I sat down 565 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: on the toilet and the door was cracked open, and 566 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: I just the door kept going opening up and away. Yeah, 567 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: And then when it opened up, I went, oh my god, 568 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 2: close the door. The door shut. I I did because 569 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: I was mad, because I'm like, stop messing with me. Yeah. 570 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: That next morning, I finally said something to the guy. 571 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: I went, we're brushing her teeth and I said, who's 572 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 2: this woman? And he goes what. I go, who's this 573 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 2: woman that paces in your bedroom? And he dropped his 574 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 2: toothbrush and he goes, you can see her? And I went, 575 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: oh my god. I said, I don't see her, I 576 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: just feel her. And he goes, why do you think 577 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 2: there's a bat by my bed? He goes, I have 578 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 2: broken lamps. I have tried everything to get rid of her. 579 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: I was like, and that's like I have goosebumps. I 580 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: was like, what, Oh no. This was one situation that 581 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 2: I felt that she needed to cross over because she 582 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: was she was stuck. I called in a group of 583 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: people and they came in and they did a whole thing, 584 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: and this woman was grateful and she crossed over. So 585 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: that was an incredible experience. They came in. We had 586 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 2: to leave the place because they had to do the thing, 587 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: and then they asked us to come back and to 588 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: walk into the room and see if it felt different. 589 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: And it did. 590 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: It felt light because there's a heaviness that you What 591 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: was her deal? She just does her home and she just. 592 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: She was like, that's my man. 593 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, you can have them. Yeah, but that was 594 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: a pretty intense experience. 595 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So you do you believe that you can 596 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: communicate with a spirit without verbally saying Absolutely, they can 597 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: hear you without you verbally saying it. 598 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 2: I think language is a barrier. I think everything is energy. 599 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: So I mean you feel it when people go you're like, 600 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I think you're so amazing and you're like, no, 601 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: you don't think you're totally like yeah, So there's a 602 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 2: I think words are just what we as humans have created. 603 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: So but we all communicate through energy and if you 604 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: can tap and that's why they say meditation is so important. 605 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 2: To meditate every day because that intuition is there, so 606 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: you know when someone's lying to you, you know, to 607 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 2: not go into a place that you're like, that just 608 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: doesn't feel right. These we have these indicators that are 609 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: built within us and we just don't utilize them because 610 00:30:56,200 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 2: we're so stimulated with all this other incredible like things 611 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: that we do have. 612 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: Definitely, yeah, because yeah, yeah, I definitely agree. Oh I 613 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: like that lady. 614 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: At the bed that was so scary, that was like, 615 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: that was ridiculous. 616 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: But you didn't, you did not, so nowadays you don't 617 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: want to see them. 618 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: I asked to not see them. I can feel them, 619 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 2: but I asked to not see them, just because it 620 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: is scary, Like you're just like, oh my god. You 621 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: know what. Danny was scary. My nephew came to us, 622 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 2: came to me before too, so I knew, but I 623 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 2: didn't see him. It was an energy that used to 624 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: run up and down the stairs. And when I lived 625 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: in my other place in La and so I told 626 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 2: my sister, I said, you're gonna have a little boy, 627 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: and and she was like, you think so, and I 628 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: was like, no, I know. And then and then he 629 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: it was a little boy, and he and then he 630 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 2: would run up and down my stairs when he came. 631 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 632 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's I do I do love I do 633 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 2: love it, and I love that we're not alone. You know. 634 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 2: I used to get a little scared about it, but 635 00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 2: it's kind of cool that we're not alone. 636 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: No, it's really cool, like just to think of the possibilities. 637 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Why not? It's fun? Right, But you did your niece 638 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: when you saw like the spirit that visited you. Did 639 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: she actually end up looking exactly like that? Or was 640 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: it just sort of a young girl energy? 641 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I didn't see her face. It was more 642 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: like just you knew it as a little girl. She 643 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: had picktails and a white T shirt. 644 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: That's all. What do you mean say? I try to 645 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: picture that when people describe that to me, like what 646 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: so what there was just pigtails floating in the air 647 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: or it just too quick or. 648 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: Like okay, like when you meet somebody and someone like 649 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 2: later on, we'll be like, oh my god, what they 650 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 2: look like and you're like, I don't know, but I 651 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 2: know that she was pretty, you know something like that, 652 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 2: Like it's you can't really make out like the color 653 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: of her eyes and what kind of nose she had 654 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: or mouth or whatever. But you're like, I don't know, 655 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: but she she just was like I remember her being 656 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: really pretty like. 657 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: That you could tell, like like your instinct in that 658 00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: moment going back to this whole thing was not Oh, 659 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: this poor little girl ran away from her parents. We 660 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: should get her back to her parents. It was like, oh, no, 661 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: you're a ghost. 662 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that was not that didn't feel like, oh, 663 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: this little girl stuck or this little girl is lost 664 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: or she's looking for somebody or whatever. It was all like, hey, 665 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 2: you know, that's the energy I felt. It was more 666 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 2: like look at me, and I was like, oh my god, 667 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 2: get out of here. Like it was just like let's run. Yeah, 668 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: you know it definitely it was a different feeling where 669 00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: that woman that was crossing back and forth, you could 670 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: feel that she was stuck. She was like, I don't 671 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 2: know what to do. You know, I'm trying to get 672 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: this guy out of my place and what's happening. Like 673 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 2: it was that kind of wings at me with a bag, yeah, 674 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: like can you imagine? Yeah, yeah, it's like but yeah, 675 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: and then it's just progressed after that, and I met 676 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: Deborah and you know, and me and Devor just went 677 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 2: crazy with it all and it's so fun. 678 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: You guys are like trying, you're working on like filming stuff. 679 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: Well, I'm we're we're working on and it's not me 680 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 2: and Deborah. This one is I was on a TV 681 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: show called Reno nine one one my favorite Carlos Alice Rockey. 682 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,479 Speaker 2: He played Officer Garcia. Me and him became like brother 683 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 2: and sister on camera and off camera. We toured together 684 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: for four years as comics. 685 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, he's like he was also the Chiaha, the 686 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: Taco Bell. 687 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he like bought a house from that. I'm like, damn. 688 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 2: And he's Rocko from Roco's Modern. 689 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, iconic work. 690 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: I mean his work is just impeccable, Like he's so great. 691 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: And then his daughters now are booking. I'm like, you 692 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: guys are booking more than me, Like this is ridiculous. 693 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: I can do a kid boys stop. But we toured 694 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: and then when we would tour together, what I loved 695 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 2: about touring with Carlos was we are both hyperactive. Like 696 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 2: when we're together, like your two peas in a pot, 697 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 2: Like we kind of shorthand talk. There's no like judgment. 698 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 2: We if I tell him to just be quiet a second, 699 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 2: like he's like okay, Like he doesn't go, oh, go, 700 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 2: what's one with you? You know, He's like okay, you 701 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: know because we just we have that camaraderie. And so 702 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: as we toured together. Most comics they're drinkers and they 703 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: sleep all day in the hotel and all this stuff, 704 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 2: where with me and him, we're like, let's get up 705 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: in the morning and let's go ghost hunting, like really, 706 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: so we would like go and explore and like find 707 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,800 Speaker 2: different like weird venues and like do activities and stuff. 708 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 2: But I remember we were in Kentucky during the Kentucky 709 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 2: ice storm and we went to a graveyard and we 710 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 2: were walking around this graveyard. And this is where the 711 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 2: idea of this TV show came up. Is because Carlos 712 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: is a non believer one hundred percent. He doesn't believe 713 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 2: in any of it. He thinks it's ridiculous. He always 714 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: has a scientific approach to it. And he's like, nope, 715 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: because of the wind, because of us law. And I'm like, 716 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 2: I want to prove to you that there's something other 717 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: than just what is right here, Like there's something other. 718 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 2: So we would go to these different places and I 719 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 2: try to spook him and things like that. So eventually 720 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: just just evolved into we need to have a TV show, 721 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 2: and we want to call it The Witching Hour. And 722 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 2: on this TV show, we and and I don't have 723 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: to worry about like somebody stealing it because it really 724 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 2: is us that make it work, because it is the 725 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: personalities of us that it's the he said, she said, 726 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: where it's like did you feel something? Did I feel something? 727 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 2: And I want to put him in situations where he 728 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: actually can feel something, so there's no monitors, there's no 729 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 2: anything like that. We have a celebrity guest that comes on. 730 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,839 Speaker 2: We get to travel, so there's a whole you know, 731 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 2: feeling of you know, travel and food, and so you 732 00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 2: get kind of the best of both of all the 733 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 2: worlds of all those reality shows where there's like a food, 734 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: you know, travel, and then you get to travel and 735 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 2: then and then you get the celebrity guests and then 736 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 2: you have ghost hunting all in one. So it's it's 737 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,439 Speaker 2: kind of a confusing pitch, you know, because people haven't 738 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 2: seen that before, but they really love us, so we're 739 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 2: just like, screw it. We're going to just film all 740 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 2: of the episodes and we're going to make it happen 741 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 2: because we have enough celebrity guests that we can bring 742 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 2: on and what that celebrity guest does it kind of 743 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 2: what it will do is it'll glean towards me or 744 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 2: to him, and that'll be kind of the meter of like, yes, 745 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 2: this place is haunted or yep, you know, I agree 746 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 2: with Carlos there's nothing here. 747 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, cool. Yeah, I love to see a skeptic 748 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,959 Speaker 1: like believe me too. 749 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 2: We had one of my best friends is Joseph Rightman, 750 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,399 Speaker 2: which he's from that TV show Happy that's on Sci 751 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 2: Fi and he's done like Lady in the Water and 752 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 2: in that other one, the big boat thing, that one, 753 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 2: the perfect story, perfect story. Oh that's a bigger boat. Okay, 754 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 2: I went to very bigger. Ye had the wall board 755 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: guy on there, good vibrations. But he we had him 756 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 2: as our celebrity guest on the little sizzle that we did, 757 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: and he did he said, look, I don't know if 758 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 2: I felt anything, but I was definitely creeped out because 759 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 2: we were like in this old like cellar that was 760 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: really cool, and we put him in there, and we 761 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 2: actually put him in alone. We like tricked him, and 762 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 2: I was like because he's my best friend. So I 763 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 2: was just like, hey, we'll be right back, and then 764 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: we left and we had walkie talkies and we were 765 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 2: talking to him through the walkie talkies and he was like, look, 766 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: I definitely got creeped out, Like it was definitely lots 767 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: of air pockets in there, and he was like, you 768 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 2: could hear things that I necessarily didn't think I would 769 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: be able to hear, Like I'm in the cement area 770 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: and he's like, I could hear little weird things. He's like, 771 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 2: so he goes, I don't know if that's a ghost 772 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 2: or what, but I definitely know it was creepy, creepy yeah, way, yeah, yeah, 773 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: that's impost right now. 774 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: You're like such a perfect guest for the show. 775 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 2: That's why when you were like ghosts, I was like what. 776 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh my gosh, Yes. 777 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices? 778 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 779 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, it is time for evp h ev plice. So 780 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: here's what I do. I go to YouTube. I find 781 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: ghost hunters that have caught a ghost voice, and I 782 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: want you to guess what the ghost hunter is believing 783 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: that this ghost is saying. Okay, okay, so just give 784 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: it a listen, tell me what you think you hear? Now. 785 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: This came from the YouTuber's name is Spirit Research and 786 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: e and oh it's it's in Florida. I picked it 787 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: for you. It's at an Indian river. Is that a 788 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: I think it's a county Indian river. Casino sounds like casino. Okay, 789 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: here it is. Tell me what you think you hear? 790 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: What I think hearted? 791 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 1: Let's try it good. I think it's like a loud 792 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: like but it's say according to Spirit Research, any they 793 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: believe it says something? Really, do you have any Let's drum. 794 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,239 Speaker 2: Hm hmmm. I don't know what do you think it says? 795 00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: Okay, here's a couple of okays. Is it a save 796 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: the drama for your mama? Is it b turn around? 797 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: It could be like a Bonnie Tyler total eclipse of that. 798 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,479 Speaker 1: Turn around could be that, or it could be turn 799 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: back time. It could be a share, it could be 800 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: record time, or it could just be someone saying, Tana turner. Okay, 801 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: try it. Let's listen. Hm hmm, it's turn around around. 802 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:49,520 Speaker 2: It's definitely turn it's because of the rhythm. Yeah, yeah, 803 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 2: dun't dunt, dun, don't dun dun. 804 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: I think it's someone just going Tana Turner. Maybe she 805 00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: was playing at the Indian River Casino. 806 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 2: Yon They're like, I loved her. That was a That 807 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 2: one's hard though, please yeah, ev please. 808 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: Okay, here's another one. This came from the same YouTuber. 809 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: They come so someone's like talking, but there's like a whisper. Okay, 810 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 1: let's try it again. But this kind of where they 811 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 1: come back. 812 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,799 Speaker 2: To, Oh, I'll do it again. 813 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 1: But where they come back I don't know. 814 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: That's creepy though. Whatever that is telling someone's heavy breathing 815 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 2: on that person. 816 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,760 Speaker 1: You know that's not some cute ghost ghost breath, stinky breath. 817 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: That's some years of ghost rout and he guesses, what 818 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: do you think? Or let me Okay, here's some options. 819 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, Jackie. Maybe that's just some it they come back. 820 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 2: It kind of sounds like hell yeah, Jackie. When you 821 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: play it back now. 822 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 1: It could be be hell say Dan, which it really 823 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: sounds like that. 824 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 2: Listen, I got goosebumps on that one. 825 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: Ew Is it c take the trash out? I don't know. 826 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,720 Speaker 1: Maybe then someone didn't do their chores in the afterlife 827 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,399 Speaker 1: or d just random. 828 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 2: It sounds like hail Satan. It does. 829 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, Okay, they thought that it said 830 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: hell yeah, Jackie, No, but I think it could be 831 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,920 Speaker 1: a hail Satan. You're it. 832 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: I got goosebumps again. 833 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 1: It does say that I don't want to do this anymore. 834 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: I quit. Okay, we have to wrap this up. 835 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love it so much. 836 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're here. We need to do an 837 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: episode that's you and Deborah. Yes, no, we need to 838 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: all go ghost hunting. Let's do it and recap it 839 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: on the show. 840 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,879 Speaker 2: Why don't we when we're recording the TV show? Yes, 841 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 2: and we'll record also the podcast also down. Let's do 842 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: there done. Carlos will be like, oh yeah, yes. 843 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yes, yes, yes, okay. Where can people 844 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 1: find you? What's going on? You have comedy special? 845 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 2: Yes? I do. Actually brought you guys a couple of 846 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 2: little flyers. It's called White Latina. It's on tons of 847 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 2: streaming platforms, but if you have Amazon Prime, it's free 848 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 2: for Prime members. And my full name is Jill Michelle Malian. 849 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 2: But everyone calls me Jilly. You know, it's just way easier. 850 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: The boys like to call me jermm like really, guys, really, 851 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 2: but Yeah, you can find me jillyonline dot com. All 852 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,320 Speaker 2: social media is Jilly Online. Also, I'm more heavy on Instagram, 853 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 2: so hit me up on that. That's good. 854 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: Love your Instagram. 855 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: I love it too, It's so fun. I love all 856 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 2: your pictures. 857 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, love it. 858 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,280 Speaker 2: Thank you for having us. 859 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,280 Speaker 1: And I say us because mister mister Jackson, your puppy 860 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: has been here this whole time. 861 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, you took a nap. He's like talking about ghosts again. 862 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:55,280 Speaker 1: Whatever she goes. Oh, thank you guys so much for listening. 863 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: I cannot wait because my birthday is this weekend and 864 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: we are going to be celebrating at Casito del Campo 865 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: at the Cavern Club Theater in Silver Lake, Los Angeles, California, 866 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: this Saturday, the nineteenth. Because it is the first ever 867 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 1: Ghosted Live, it is officially sold out. So I think 868 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: it is safe to say that I'll be doing lots 869 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: more live shows coming up, and hopefully I'll be coming 870 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: to where you live at some point, maybe in twenty twenty. Now, 871 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 1: if you did not get a ticket to Ghosted Live 872 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: and you would like to here in Los Angeles, there 873 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: will probably be a very very small handful of tickets 874 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: that you can just go. You can show up at 875 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: like the shows at eight. I would recommend you come 876 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: at like six pm. Eat some dinner. The food's delicious there. 877 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: You'll put your name on a list that is you 878 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: talk to the bartender something. They'll tell you how to 879 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: do that, and first come, first served. There'll be a 880 00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: couple of tickets ready to be sold. And I hope 881 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,399 Speaker 1: that you get to see the show. And then on 882 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: Sunday the twentieth, I'm going to be an Oxnard for 883 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: Ross Matthews's Dragtastic Bubbly Brunch and I cannot wait. The 884 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: last time there were so many of my ghosted Booze 885 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: that were there and it was so nice to see 886 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: you all. And that's my actual birthday, the twentieth. Then 887 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Oh guys, so many wonderful things are happening. 888 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,000 Speaker 1: Halloween is only like a little over a week away, 889 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: so please stay spooky. I love you all, both living 890 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, 891 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 1: don't haunt me. 892 00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 2: Hey by Star a podcast network