1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge, presented by DraftKings. We have a 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: very special guest today. We are joined by Katie Bollinger, 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: a star on The Love Is Blind, which I have 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: to admit I'm a massive fan. When I found out 5 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: Katie was on the show, I like lost it. You 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: can probably attest this. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, make's been trying to get every 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: little detail out of me, but I've been very close lip. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 3: She's good. 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: She's a tough cookie to crack. So Katy, we'll start here. Okay, 11 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: if Garrett and I were to go into the pods, okay, 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: and which one of us is more likely to make 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: it to like the tropical islands? 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 3: Right, Like, which one's getting? 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 4: Who am I sending to Cabos? 16 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: What you're at? 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 3: Exactly? Oh, exactly. 18 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: Well. I've known you guys for a while now, I 19 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: think about thirteen years. I know your wives, I know 20 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 2: your families, I know enough of your personalities. 21 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: Okay, if I had I would, I would definitely go 22 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 4: with you. 23 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: Make I think you've just you've just got more no 24 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 2: events or no offense is. 25 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: Taking care, You're just you're just wild. 26 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 2: Like I don't know it's ever going to come out 27 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: of your mouth, and I think if we put you 28 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 2: behind a wall where you're gonna have all the confidence 29 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: in the world, and if you can just like be 30 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: vulnerable and put that all out there like you would 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 2: be golden those clips. You would be a meme if 32 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 2: you're not already. I'm sure you're meme already in a 33 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: couple of places, but you would just be a meme everywhere. 34 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 4: I can't argue. 35 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 3: I can't argue with that. 36 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, problem is I might you know, on the red 37 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: carpet reveal when I walk out, that might be wearing 38 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: all torpedoes. 39 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,919 Speaker 2: Right, I feel you would have done like the worm 40 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: downe the carpet or like something wild like. Then they'd 41 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: be like, oh my God, be like can I leave 42 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: like MTV next? 43 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: That's my fate, all right? 44 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: So to begin, just tell listeners, you know, there's a 45 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: lot of folks who are getting to know you better 46 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: and want to get to know you more. Tell folks 47 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: just what you do for us here with the Ravens. 48 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 2: Sure, So this is actually my fourteenth season at the 49 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. I'm in the marketing department and I you 50 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: fan development. So what that means is I oversee our 51 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 2: women's marketing strategy. 52 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: I also oversee. 53 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: Our influencer, content creator, celebrity strategy in partnership activation. I 54 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 2: work closely on our contests and promotions, and you guys know, marketing, 55 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: we're all over the place, a little bit of everything, 56 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: and events and always kind of run around. Were the 57 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 2: most fun department. But yeah, no, it's been from branding 58 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: and advertising. We've done a little bit of everything. 59 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 4: So that's awesome. 60 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, so obviously have a demanding busy job here with 61 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 5: the Ravens. How did you balance that with going on 62 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 5: the show and all that went into that? 63 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's kind of a crazy story, right. 64 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 2: My friend Katie and I put in the application back 65 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: in April of twenty twenty three, and I got a 66 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 2: phone call the very next day and I was like, Oh, 67 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 2: this could be real. And when I had that phone call, 68 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: they set up an appointment. They had a couple questions 69 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 2: about my application, and one of them was like, hey, 70 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 2: we see you're employed by the Baltimore Ravens be filming 71 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 2: in the fall, Like do you think this is something 72 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: you could do? And I was like, you know, when 73 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: we get there and I have to make that ask I. 74 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 4: Will, but I would love I would love this. 75 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 2: If you guys are gonna give me this opportunity, I 76 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: want to see if I can make it work. And 77 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 2: our schedule comes out in May and X amount of 78 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: time that I needed for filming where you're completely cut 79 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 2: off from the outside world, it just so happened that 80 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 2: we had away games all of those weeks. So you 81 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 2: guys know, kind of in our world, one of the 82 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 2: biggest no nos is to miss home games. We have 83 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: to make a lot of sacrifices in our lives working 84 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: in sports, and that's one of them. 85 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: So I went to my. 86 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: Senior leadership and I said, this is probably going to 87 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: be the weirdest conversation we've ever had, but I if 88 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: given the opportunity, I really want to do this. You know, 89 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 2: he knows me both professionally and personally and knew this 90 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: would be something great for my life for the next chapter. 91 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: So you know, when we needed those approvals and when 92 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: we saw the schedule come out, it was something. 93 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 4: We were able to do. 94 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: So I have the most amazing team, Like I said, 95 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: in marketing, everything we do is fantastic. Everybody's so hard working, 96 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: and we were able to cover my bases, and everybody 97 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: picked up the extra load, and I'm so thankful and 98 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: the Ravens organization is the best. Right. Yeah, you know 99 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: we talk about family first always here, but being able 100 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 2: to give me this opportunity means the world to me. 101 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: Just in general. 102 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: You know, how was the experience of being on the show? 103 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: I loved it. I was so funny. 104 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 2: I was the person that was like trying to see 105 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 2: all the behind the scenes stuff. I think like sports 106 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: and entertainment is so similar. So I was like, guys, 107 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 2: somewhere here, there's a control room and all these editors 108 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: are standing around, there's all these screens, and you got 109 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: Chris in the middle of the executive producer and you know, 110 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: he's calling the shots and they're. 111 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 4: Like, shut up, Katie. They're like, no, but tell me 112 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: about the guys you're dating. 113 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: But no. I mean, I really have nothing negative to 114 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: say about the experience, truly. I was honored that casting 115 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: believed in me. Right, You've got these strangers that you know, 116 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: think you're amazing and you're beautiful, and you're intelligent and 117 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: you're accomplished, and that they want to help you find 118 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: love and find the next step and meet new friends, 119 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 2: and I thought that was the biggest compliment, Like if 120 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: you could just bottle that up, it's such a great feeling. 121 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: And going on the show, I just learned so much 122 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: about myself and I think just the vulnerability of it. 123 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: I didn't realize at the time, like how scary that 124 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 2: could have been. When they asked me, you know, what's 125 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 2: your biggest fear, I was like, like a wardrobe malfunction, 126 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: Like what you're talking about. Everybody else is like, no, 127 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: I'm gonna fall in love and he's not gonna be 128 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: attractive or we're gonna have this crazy breakup. And I'm like, oh, 129 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: that's that's what you meant, right. I think I just 130 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 2: kind of dove like right in and no regrets, no regrets. 131 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: I think everyone from the executive producers to the cameramen 132 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: to medical, to the wranglers to audio whoever, they were 133 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: all fantastic. Again, we weren't supposed to talk to them 134 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: that much, and I'm like chatty Kathy in the back 135 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: trying to get to know everybody, but really no Kinetic 136 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,559 Speaker 2: casting Netflix, Like they're amazing people. 137 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 4: They're incredibly hard workers. 138 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: It's so fascinating what they do and I have nothing 139 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 2: negative to say about what I experienced. 140 00:05:58,520 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 141 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 5: So whenever you know when you go on reality TV. 142 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 5: I've ever been on reality TV, but I'm guessing. So 143 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 5: you film this, then you wait and you don't know 144 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 5: what it's going to look like, you don't know what 145 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 5: the edit's going to be. There's like this uncertainty of like, 146 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 5: how is this going to be portrayed? How am I 147 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 5: going to be portrayed? What's the world going to think 148 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 5: of all this stuff? So how did you handle that 149 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: and how did you ultimately think it came together in 150 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 5: terms of your portrayal. 151 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I went into the whole situation knowing I wanted. 152 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 4: To be as real as possible. 153 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: I will say, as soon as you get miked up 154 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: and there's cameras like, it just kind of disappears. You're 155 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: really not always aware that you're on camera or somebody's 156 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: always listening, and like, I like sing to myself a lot. 157 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: So I was like, oh, I was like that was 158 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: a little sharp again, but I was I. 159 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 2: Was happy with how things play out. I think people 160 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 2: have this perspective reality TV and everybody's like because its 161 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 2: script is a scripted No, it's not scripted at all. 162 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 4: Sure you have producers, but. 163 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: Like, everything you see is very real and you can 164 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: see some conversations that people think is like really edited 165 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: or when, but it happened right Like it's all there. 166 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: So when it was me personal, I know, I didn't 167 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 2: get engaged right like, I didn't find love, so my storyline. 168 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 4: Stopped at the pods. 169 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: So I was like, Okay, you know, I know there's 170 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: not going to be an abundance of myself in this show, 171 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: and I kind of set myself up for that. 172 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 4: I do come back. 173 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 2: For the party and you know, so you have more 174 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: airtime then. But I think everything that was shown was 175 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 2: true to my character. You can watch things back and 176 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: be like, ah, I wish you would have said that 177 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 2: a little differently, or maybe you know, whym my flipping 178 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 2: my hair so much or whatever, But no, it's been 179 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: really cool and it's not weird to see me and 180 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: my friends back on TV. 181 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 4: I thought that would be. 182 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I can't explain that one, but no, 183 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 2: I was. I was very happy with how everything was portrayed. 184 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: What was the reaction when you did see yourself for 185 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: the first time, Because in my house, when you came 186 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: on to screen the first time we were losing it, Chris. 187 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 3: What were you like? 188 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 4: You sound like my friends? 189 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: And I was like, I remember there's this one time 190 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: we were shooting b roll and they're like, okay, Katie, 191 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 2: like you can breathe because it's like the. 192 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 4: Camera's like going around my face. I'm like, only, so 193 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: am I going to look like that? Like You're gonna 194 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 4: look like a stiff little robot or no. 195 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: It was cool to see that opening scene with me 196 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: and Nick in the first episode, and I just remember 197 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: sitting being like, oh my god, there she is. Like 198 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: it took me immediately back to who I was a 199 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: year ago. And you know, not like I've had this 200 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 2: crazy intense transformation. There's been so many positives that have happened, 201 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: but that was like the weirdest thing. It just took 202 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 2: me right back in time. It was like a slingshot 203 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: kind of and I'm like. 204 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 4: Wow, there she is. Look at her. She's just bright. 205 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: Eyed and ready to fall in love and has no 206 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: idea it's actually coming. 207 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 208 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: So you bring up your scene with Nick and your 209 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: date with him in the Pods and you had like 210 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,599 Speaker 1: an epic one liner for him, you know, when you 211 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: said you worked in the NFL, and he said, and 212 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: I want to make sure I get. 213 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: The quote right. 214 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: He said, please tell me you work for the Commanders. 215 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: And your response was no, it's the better scene. I 216 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 1: lost it, lost it, so you know, And now we're 217 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: taping this after the Ravens beat the Commanders. Were you 218 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: like nervous about that game? Were there any emotions because 219 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: of that statement? 220 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: Was I ever? 221 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, you guys know like we're confident, We're 222 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 2: confident people like I think we're confident brand like it's 223 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 2: also my personality and like charismatic and like you're kind 224 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 2: of flirting in there, and I of course stand behind it, 225 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: win or lose. We always stand behind our team and 226 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: our organization. But this comes out and of course we're 227 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: playing the Commanders and it's like timely, like basically it's 228 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: like right in the middle of the season, and I'm 229 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: just like, they're gonna troll me so hard, Like we 230 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: talk about being a meme, like I'm gonna be a meme. 231 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be trolled, and I'm like I'll laugh at 232 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: all of it, right, Like I'll take it all in 233 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 2: stride like I would do the same thing. Yeah, but yeah, 234 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: when we won the game, it was a huge weight 235 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: off my shoulders, Like I kind of want to thank 236 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: like every person in this building, be like thank you personally, 237 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 2: like you saved me from a lot. 238 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 4: Of embarrassment that I would have completely taken. 239 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: But no, that was kind of wild, Like I love 240 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: that that moment happened because it's very true, Katie, Like 241 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: I would be like flirting with the guy over football 242 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 2: like that would be me. So it was cool that 243 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: that moment was captured. 244 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: Have you had any like Commanders fans who have been 245 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: chirping at you on socials or anything like that. 246 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 4: Actually, not that many, to be honest. 247 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: There was there was somebody who commented something like, oh, 248 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: just wait till you see the Redskins, and I commented, I. 249 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 4: Was like, hm, I don't know who that is. I 250 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 4: was like, good on them, bro, I can't given insult 251 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: me correctly. 252 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 5: That's great. So when you're going through this experience and 253 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 5: you're talking to these guys like that was one of 254 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 5: the examples where Nick found out that you work for 255 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 5: an NFL team. But what was it like when you 256 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 5: were telling the guys that you were in the conversation 257 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 5: with or the girls in the pods, I work for 258 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 5: an NFL team, and what was their reaction? 259 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 2: Right? So I think it's a really good conversation that 260 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 2: you saw with me and Nick. I didn't come out 261 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 2: and say, like, I work for the Baltimore Evens, because 262 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: that was something like in my life being singles like 263 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 2: always carries the narrative, and I'm like, I'm so much 264 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: more than my job. 265 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 4: Do I love my job? Yes? 266 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 2: Am I proud of my job, absolutely, But that's not 267 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: one hundred percent who I am. So oh, I'm like, 268 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: I work in sports marketing. They're like, oh my gosh, 269 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 2: you know what's what's sport? And I'm like football, I'm like, oh, 270 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: the Commanders, And I'm just like I never wanted to 271 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 2: come and be like, yeah, like I'm the marketing and 272 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: fan development for the Yeah. I just didn't want to 273 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: do that. That's and just a little bit bit a 274 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 2: part of me. And but the guys, like, the guys 275 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: loved it, and you guys have to keep in mind, 276 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: there weren't fourteen other Katie Ballingers. We were all very 277 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: very different, and so when you're dating these other guys, 278 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: they're not going to be all Nick Dorcas, you know, 279 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 2: so like you've got Leo if you didn't know, he's. 280 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 4: An art dealer. Leo's the art dealer. 281 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: So like when Leo and I were on a date, 282 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: we didn't really connect. And I can think in my 283 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: mind and probably writing in my journal like this probably 284 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 2: isn't your guy. But then every once in a while 285 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: you would get a guy that's like, oh, I play 286 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 2: pick up basketball and I'm like, okay, what position do 287 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: you like? You know, and it would kind of like 288 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 2: pique my interests because I'm like, okay, more than likely 289 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: we're going to have more in common. And I did 290 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 2: a funny story like in normal life, non pod life, 291 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: I have met Leo and a bunch of people in person, 292 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: and Leo is telling the story about. 293 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: Like I'm so sorry, Katie, like you're great, like. 294 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: You know, you're beautiful to this and then you're so 295 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 2: kind and I just I wanted I need to tell you, 296 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: like I ranked you last the first day and I'm. 297 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 4: Like, Leo unoffended, and he said, I. 298 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Mean you watch football and you drink beer and like 299 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 2: you go to dive bars. And he's like that's just 300 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: like I mean, I think you wanted to say, like, 301 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 2: my perfect date would be like being picked up in. 302 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 4: A helicopter and like being wine and nice. Yeah, and 303 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 4: then he's like, but don't worry. He's like everybody was 304 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: in the lounge like freaking out. There's a girl that 305 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 4: works in football. 306 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: And then one of my dates too with like another match. 307 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 2: It just so happened to be he was a Steelers fan, which, 308 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 2: of course, you know, that's our other thing. 309 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 3: We always we're always. 310 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: Just talking smack. 311 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: And I don't know if production planned this or anything, 312 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: or if it was just a coincidence, but our date 313 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: was during the Ravens Steelers game. 314 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 3: Oh wow. 315 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: Yes, So I had like a little keychain on my backpacks. 316 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 4: I sent it over to him. So we walks in 317 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 4: the pods and sees it and. 318 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: It's like, what is this? 319 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 2: Get this out of here, And you know, it just 320 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 2: happened to be that every time he left the pod 321 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom or grab a drink, he 322 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 2: came back and he knew the score. So I was like, like, 323 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: who's feeding you info over there? And that game last year, 324 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: we were up until the fourth quarter, and I still 325 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: I never went back and watched it. 326 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 4: I don't know what happened, but we lost. 327 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: So he delivers that news to me and it's like 328 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 2: dates over and you know, you're like, I like laid 329 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: on the floor that red shaggy car, but I just 330 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: lay that. 331 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 4: I was like, no, like my life is over. 332 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 2: I like come into the pa or lounge and I'm 333 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: just like, you know, defeated. And the girl's like, oh 334 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: my god, you get broken up with So I said, no, guys, 335 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: the Ravens lost to the Steelers today and they're like what, I. 336 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 4: Like, sit down and have a couple of beers. I'm 337 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 4: totally having a moment and I'm like, my life is over. 338 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: So that the last thing. 339 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: No, sorry, sorry Ravens. 340 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: Flocked my bat, But no, it was cool how that 341 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 2: complimented my personality and who I am. But it was 342 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: it was a fun little piece because it is it's unique, 343 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: and I think not a lot of people understand really 344 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: what we do and our lives are very interesting at 345 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 2: work and what we do is fun, sports is sound, 346 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 2: it's entertaining. So there there's a lot of questions and 347 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 2: I see that a lot now, like you talk about 348 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: the DMS, which can be a wild place, but it's 349 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: a lot of women asking me how did you get 350 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: into sports? You know, what's it like being a woman 351 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: in sports? And that's something that moving forward, I would 352 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 2: like to tell that story a little bit more because 353 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot of curiosity out there and people want 354 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: to know that's cool. 355 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned you know, the guys are all buzzing 356 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: about you and working in the NFL and all this stuff, 357 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: and you know we've been friends for a long time. 358 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: You have a great personality and all this stuff. So 359 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: like I thought when you were going on the show, 360 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: like I was like, yeah, oh, Katie's making it. 361 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: Like she's going down the altar. 362 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: You know, when these people get to know Katie, and 363 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: especially with the NFL thing in the background, I'm like, 364 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: these guys. 365 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: Are going to fall for that hard. 366 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: Credentials, right, And so I guess my question is like, 367 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: why do you think it didn't work for you on 368 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: the show? 369 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 3: Why didn't you find love on the show. 370 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: That's a great question. I first of all, thank you 371 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 2: for everything you just said about me. 372 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 4: Is very kind. I was convinced my husband was there. 373 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: Trust Like I again, like the crazy scheduling, you know, 374 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 2: casting your one of thousands of thousands, and then you're going. 375 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: I was like, the universe is hardshipping me on Love's line. 376 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 2: So I was convinced. I was like, this is the 377 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: only solution. And I will say dating all these guys 378 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 2: and now watching it back and seeing their stories and 379 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: their connections, I really I never had that. So I 380 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: think it is safe to say that my person was 381 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: not there. I don't have any regrets about that. There's 382 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: not anybody I'm looking back and been like, oh, that 383 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 2: that should have been me. 384 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: I think about my journey. 385 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: One of my favorite things is that, like I went 386 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 2: with Grace, you know, like I knew my person wasn't there. 387 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: I didn't try to make it for TV when I 388 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 2: was out. I was out, you know. And I think 389 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: that also speaks to my character. I think I also 390 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: learned so much about myself and how you should be dating. 391 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: And I think in the real world I lead very 392 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: heavy with chemistry versus compatibility. And when you're behind a 393 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: wall and you can't see somebody their body language or 394 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: their physical appearance period, you really look at like it's 395 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: I call it the x's and o's of dating. 396 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: It's you know, like, how you were raised, what are 397 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 4: your beliefs? What do you do for work? Where do 398 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: you live? 399 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 2: Like all of those questions that in past relationships I 400 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: haven't put that much emphasis on, and it was really 401 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: eye opening. But yeah, I mean I was with you. 402 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm getting married. I'm telling all my friends 403 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: and family. I'm like, you guys are coming the wedding, 404 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be amazing, Like I'm off the market. 405 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 4: That was like the biggest things. 406 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: I remember coming back to the party and being like, 407 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: y'all return me to the streets. 408 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 4: I was like, I wasn't ready for this, Like I 409 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: really thought. I was like, oh, we're done, We're done, 410 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 4: you know, but not quite, not quite. 411 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 412 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 5: So when the show comes out and obviously you're you're 413 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: featured on it, Like, what's the reaction in your life 414 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 5: from a social media standpoint? 415 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 3: Like it's everywhere. 416 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 5: There's been a lot of clips that have been you know, everywhere, 417 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 5: like especially with. 418 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 3: The Party, the most recent episode. 419 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 5: The feature pretty heavily in the party that you mentioned, So, like, 420 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 5: what is it like on social media when you are 421 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 5: you have this presence, the show's being watched by millions 422 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 5: of people all around the world, and the reaction to 423 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 5: that after the show comes out. 424 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 2: I will never forget the first time scrolling on TikTok 425 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: and seeing my face like that was weird as in 426 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: the cafeterias having a moment because all of our headshots 427 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: came out that day and I was like, Okay, just breathe, 428 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 2: You're fine, You're good. I talked to myself a lot, 429 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 2: and it's like one of my favorite people that like 430 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: recap reality. 431 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 4: Shows, and I was like, oh, that's my face. 432 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: And it's interesting in the beginning when all these creators 433 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: wanted to say, like, based on this one picture and 434 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: this bio, what they think about you, Like it's all 435 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 2: I feel like I do have a thick skin. There 436 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: are some people who want to love you, some people 437 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: want to hate you. Some people are like, yeah, Katie, 438 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 2: she does nothing for me, and I'm like, wow, I mean. 439 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 4: You guys, you get criticized, like we get it. 440 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 441 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: But it's like the social media stuff's been fun, right, 442 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: And I will say that my reaction has been more 443 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: positive than negative. 444 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 4: I do hate to see the negative comments. 445 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 2: I do see my friends being dragged on the internet 446 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 2: and it does not feel good. I mentioned this a 447 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 2: little bit earlier. When you get a comment from a stranger. 448 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 2: It just hits different for some reason, Like me more so, 449 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 2: I can only imagine when it's all negative, how how 450 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 2: hard that can be. And you're kind of consuming that. 451 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 2: You can't really defend yourself. You're trying to make fun 452 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: of yourself. It's just this this weird space. 453 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: The internet is a wild, wild place. 454 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 455 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: So another or one of your best scenes was when 456 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: you did come back for the party after you know, 457 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: the couples are back in the real world, and you 458 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: you poured some real knowledge into Nick. And I thought 459 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: that you came off really well there, like you saw 460 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: Nick for who he was. 461 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 3: You know, better than a lot of people will say. 462 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: And so I guess the question is do you this 463 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: is going down the rabbit hole because this love is blind, 464 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: Like do you have any regrets with how things ended 465 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: with Nick? And then secondarily, like what did that seeing 466 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: that moment for you? And I know there's been a 467 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: positive reaction to that, like like you kept it real, 468 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: like you were like this is why I didn't pick 469 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: you straight up, you. 470 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 3: Know, and this is why we didn't work out. 471 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: But like here's how I see you, Like, how do 472 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: you look back on that scene? 473 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 3: For you Yeah. 474 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: So, first of all, I don't have any regrets about 475 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 2: breaking up with Nick or not pursuing with Nick then 476 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: or now. Nick again was not my person. We did 477 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 2: rank each other very high the first three days. Again, 478 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: I kind of explained how there's a ton of different 479 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: personalities people are coming and going, but when you meet 480 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: somebody that's more compatible with you, you're like, oh, Okay, 481 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 2: this is exciting, this is it. There is somebody here 482 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 2: for me. And I had that moment with Nick and 483 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: a couple other guys and one conversation. Again, you besides 484 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: the commander's thing, you don't really see Nick and as date. 485 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 2: And there was one conversation that we had that I 486 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: saw Nick in a different light because he's very flirty, charismatic, 487 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: smooth talkie. 488 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: He's Niki di Rico, soave. But we talked about what. 489 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: It was like to not reach the NFL, what it's 490 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: like in life to leave collegiate athletics. We both played 491 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: sports in college and you just kind of be dropped 492 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 2: on your head in the real world just to figure 493 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: it out. And that was when I really saw a 494 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 2: true side to Nick, like it kind of broke down 495 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: and we talked about that because that's something we see 496 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 2: often here, you know, dreams being made and dreams being crushed. 497 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 2: So I could have a real conversation with him, and 498 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: I did see depth there, you know, and that's where 499 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 2: I think I was, Like I mentioned talking about his family. 500 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 2: Our family's structure seemed very similar, and he has a 501 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,400 Speaker 2: sister and his parents you see in the show. 502 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 4: They seem great. When he talked about that. 503 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 2: Like you can feel like the warmth through a wall, 504 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 2: like you can feel in somebody's inflection or how they're 505 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:40,239 Speaker 2: talking about things, their pride. Yeah, it's genuine. So I 506 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: had that background information about Nick, and we broke up 507 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: because I just there was a day where we were 508 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: really vulnerable and talking more about like intimacy things, and 509 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 2: I just was not comfortable with the way he talked 510 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 2: about things. And I said a boundary and the date 511 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: and he was good, he apologized, and by the end 512 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,159 Speaker 2: of the date we were kind of seeing the same behaviors. 513 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 4: So I just I cut it off. 514 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 2: I was like, I said this at the party, you're 515 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 2: reminding me of past people I've dated, or I'm picking 516 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: up on some red flags here, like I'm just gonna 517 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 2: move on. I'm not gonna see this through. So I 518 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: think in that conversation, I just I wanted him to 519 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: understand that. 520 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: Like I do, like I see you, Uh, there's. 521 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 2: More that's going on, Like you're an onion, you got layers, 522 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 2: you know, just like be confident in yourself. And I 523 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: think he is in a position where he is transitioning 524 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: in life and I understand that, like I went through 525 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 2: that too. I mean, I'm never gonna go to the 526 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 2: NFL of women's lacrosse, but that was his dream and 527 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: it's hard to He's living with his parents and the 528 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 2: basement and doing real estate trying. 529 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 4: To figure it out. So I just I guess I just. 530 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: Had some empathy for that situation and that's how I 531 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: would talk to a friend. And I'm glad that that 532 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: was portrayed that way because I do think it was 533 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: a really a really sweet moment that showed my kindness 534 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: and more of my personality. 535 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: Because if you are a viewer, you don't know me. 536 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: You didn't get to see that, so you didn't get 537 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: to see my kindness and being genuine. So I was 538 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: happy with the way that was portrayed, and he was 539 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,239 Speaker 2: also really receptive of it. You don't see him get 540 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: defensive and he just kind of takes it for what 541 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 2: it's worth. So I thought, I thought that was a 542 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: really nice moment in the show. 543 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, so the whole show like, it's an experiment, right, Yeah, 544 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 5: it's called an experiment. 545 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: It's a social experiment, absolutely. Yeah. 546 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 5: So the experiment is to test whether love is blind. 547 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 5: You've experienced this, What is. 548 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: Your take on that? 549 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 4: What is your answer to this love blind question? 550 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 3: That's the big question. You're Nicola right now. 551 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 4: We love Nack and Vanessa. By the way, they're fantastic. 552 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 4: They're fantastic. Is love blind? 553 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 2: I think, especially talking about this as a social experiment, 554 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: I believe in it. I believe in the executive producers. 555 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: I think what they have created absolutely can work. But 556 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: under the circumstance that you are real, that you are honest, 557 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: that you are vulnerable, that you don't hide things from 558 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 2: a partner, that you can just really put yourself out there, 559 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 2: that you don't rely so heavily on the physical, because 560 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: if you're making this connection, the physical shouldn't matter. But 561 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: if you're in there talking about you look like the 562 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: celebrity that celebrity, or you know, not coming in disingenuine 563 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: or talking about things that aren't real, like that person's 564 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 2: falling in love with this character you're creating. So is 565 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 2: love blind, yes, if you can be vulnerable. 566 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 4: For me, it wasn't. 567 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: But I know, but I totally I believe in it. 568 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: I really believe in the process and what they've created, 569 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 2: and it is. It is tricky and casting to find 570 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: people that you know will go in for the right 571 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 2: reasons and will open up their hearts. That's cool. 572 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: I think there's no way that love is blind by 573 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: the way. 574 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: The experiment can work. 575 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. But if you walk out 576 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: on that red carpet and you're like, I am not 577 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: attract to that person at all, it just ain't gonna work. 578 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 3: So you can develop a. 579 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: Connectionally, But like, is truly blind? 580 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:08,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and yes outside of the experience, yes, 581 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 6: so right, Like you the reason you go up to 582 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 6: somebody at a bar is because you physically see them 583 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 6: and you think they're attractive. 584 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 4: Is loud because you hear them telling a story and like, oh, 585 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 4: what a great story? 586 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: Right right? 587 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 2: You know? 588 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 4: But yes, I agree with you. 589 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: And there's so much about like chemistry and compatibility like 590 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: I mentioned, and if you don't have that chemistry, it's 591 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: not going to be there. 592 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,159 Speaker 4: And y'all can flir. 593 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: As much as you want through a wall, but when 594 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 2: there's physical touch and intocy involved, like, yeah, that can 595 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 2: completely go off the window. 596 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 1: The premise is right, like get past the first impression 597 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: of like that wall that you would never even approach 598 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: this person. And I totally agree with the premise. It's 599 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: just like, if you don't have those things, it's just 600 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: not going to work. If you don't find the other 601 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: person attractive at all. Yeah, just take go work as 602 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: the fact. 603 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 4: Sorry, and then it just makes and it just makes 604 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 4: for great TV. 605 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 5: So that's for sure. 606 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 3: My last question. 607 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: My last question is like, all right, post show, it's 608 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: coming out, You're getting all this social media buzz. How 609 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: has like, like do you have a bunch of guys 610 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: that are lining up to date you? Like, how does 611 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: this change your dating life now that you've been on 612 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: the show, to. 613 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 2: Be I haven't gotten back out there, and I'm gonna 614 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 2: be fully honest, in the past year, I haven't done 615 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 2: much dating. I really took this experience and dove in personally, right, 616 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 2: like I've kind of been chasing my own little mental 617 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: health journey. I've been looking at past relationships about my 618 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 2: friendships a lot different now, and that's been my focus. 619 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: I think this spring the summer I tried a little bit, 620 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: but then it's weird because it's like, Okay, you go 621 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: on a couple of dates, you think you like this person, 622 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,479 Speaker 2: and you're like, well, in a couple of months, like 623 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: this show's gonna come out and like rock my world 624 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 2: and rock your world. 625 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 4: So it just got weird because you can't really say anything, 626 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 4: and it was just a muddied water. So I waited. 627 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, when when the show comes out, like, 628 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: I'll give it some time and then I'll get back 629 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 2: out there. 630 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 4: I have not yet. 631 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: I think like I'm in the clear that obviously people 632 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: know I didn't get engaged. 633 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: So we're married. 634 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm getting back out there. Like I said, 635 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: the dms are a wild place. They're a wild place. 636 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: But no, I don't know what my next step is. 637 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 4: I really don't. We'll see. 638 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: I know I need to get back out there, like 639 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: you can't hide anymore. I'm not in the pod hiding. 640 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: But I did say I was like, y'all put me 641 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: back in the pods, like Pods All Stars, you. 642 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: Do it again, and like if they were like we 643 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: want to have you back, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah. 644 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: I would be like, put me back in there. I've 645 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 2: even said that, like, Yo, Loki, put me back in 646 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 2: the Pods. 647 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 4: I did real good there. In person, I'm like glitching. 648 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 3: That's so funny. Well, we're all rooting for you. I 649 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: think America is rooting for you. And thanks for coming 650 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: on awesome. 651 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much. This is fun. 652 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 2: Thank