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Speaker 1: We're gonna be breaking down some of the best travel

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Speaker 1: stories on Reddit. This is Okyop. I'm Sam and I'm Sophia,

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Speaker 1: and we tell the craziest stories on Earth. And this

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Speaker 1: one is my twenty two female boyfriend. Twenty four male

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Speaker 1: is a passport bro, and I had no idea passport pro.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like, yo, dude, how many countries if

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Speaker 1: you've been to what's what's your what's your.

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Speaker 2: Country count I'm searching for that.

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Speaker 1: What's your body of land count? Bro? Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: I've been with my boyfriend for eight months. Things have

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Speaker 1: been going really well between us up until a few

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Speaker 1: days ago. A little backstory. I'm from a central European

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Speaker 1: country and he's American.

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Speaker 2: Pick essentral European country Spain, Portugal, not very central.

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Speaker 1: What is France, Poland, Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of order, Yeah, I would say maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: France or Germany.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard I've always heard Western Eastern Europe. I've

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Speaker 1: never heard about Central Europe. Like, no one says that Jekistan, yeah, Pekistan, Pakistan,

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Speaker 1: Uzbekistanist I'm gonna say Eastern.

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Speaker 2: I think it's yeah, yeah, never eat saggi waffles.

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Speaker 1: That sounds weird.

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Speaker 2: Never eat soggy waffles. That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Waffles is a weird That's what I learned. Don't look

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Speaker 1: it up. Oh I never told my Gerbil story.

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Speaker 2: Sam keeps telling this durable story anyway, okay, story, my

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Speaker 2: Gerbil story is running my relationship.

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Speaker 1: He met in a coffee house. He said he settled

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Speaker 1: in my country because of work opportunities. We met in

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Speaker 1: a coffee house where I work as barista. We clicked

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Speaker 1: instantly and started going out A few weeks later. Everything

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Speaker 1: was so good and we had so much fun. Fast

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Speaker 1: forward last week he asked me to help him with

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Speaker 1: some documentation. I was happy to, as I know my

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Speaker 1: language is hard under stand and even translate. Sometimes. When

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Speaker 1: I was searching online on his laptop, I stumbled upon

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Speaker 1: some weird website. They were all about passport bros. I

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Speaker 1: and basically had tips on how to settle in foreign countries,

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Speaker 1: where to find a traditional bride, which country has the

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Speaker 1: most beautiful woman, et cetera. I was shocked and so confused.

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Speaker 2: So this is like he's trying to get his green card.

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Speaker 2: But like opposite.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, well whatever the green card equipment in the.

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Speaker 2: Other countries, yikes, but in like a weird way.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, but he's yeah, he's an American,

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Speaker 1: so he's just trying to like live full time in Europe.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so he's trying to use ladies.

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Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't have done it, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: to gain some clarity and checked his profile on one

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Speaker 1: of these websites. He had full conversations about Eastern European countries,

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Speaker 1: them out on dates, if it would be better to

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Speaker 1: settle down in Asia instead, and so on. He decided

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Speaker 1: Is this a red flag?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Very much?

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Speaker 1: So why very much?

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Speaker 2: Because he's like, he's not it's not about living in

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Speaker 1: Did say that?

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Speaker 2: He did?

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Speaker 1: It's easy, okay, he said, what is the dating cultural?

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Speaker 2: Okay, but that's so weird, like that you're your main

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Riley, I would never do such

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Speaker 1: I feel like, what I do you would look up before?

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Speaker 2: Well, so are you telling me you're.

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Speaker 4: Going for es and if there are women there?

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Speaker 2: Exactly?

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Speaker 1: No, exactly, Sometimes you didn't know, Like when you go

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Speaker 2: I'm going to a new country. First country.

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Speaker 1: You're going to an Eastern European country. If you're going

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Speaker 1: going to Prague and there's like a different dating culture there,

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Speaker 1: but you don't understand it? Are you going to like,

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Speaker 4: But also looking up traditional husband?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Exactly in this story, I would be looking at

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Speaker 2: what are the cultural norms here, Like I don't want

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Speaker 1: I feel like that is kind of whack. I don't

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Speaker 1: but I think it's different than.

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Speaker 2: You using it based off of like the perceived norms

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that may be a little bit more susk, but

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Speaker 1: let's keep going red. I feel dehumanized and like he

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Speaker 2: That's a great point.

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Speaker 1: Also, our whole relationship has been built on a lie

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Speaker 1: because he told me he settled down here because he

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what came first? The job offer or the prospert bro?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you. It sounds like he was like

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Speaker 1: what it's I feel like this is not what it

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Speaker 2: Yes, No, that's it feels like we don't know that.

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Speaker 1: That is what is said, but that's what it feels.

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Speaker 2: But I feel like you don't go on these passport like,

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Speaker 2: I don't even find passport. What was he looking up

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Speaker 1: Bro websites?

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Speaker 4: You got it there, Bro, I've been subscribed for years.

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Speaker 1: After I found all this stuff, I quickly took a

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Speaker 1: few pictures It's proof, and then made up an excuse

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Speaker 1: but I told him I don't feel well, so I

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Speaker 1: I feel so disgusted. Am I overreacting? How can I

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Speaker 2: Thick update, not just a juicy update.

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Speaker 1: But what what right? What did you find?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna maybe have to stop the audio so

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Speaker 4: Passport Bros.

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Speaker 2: Passport what are these?

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Speaker 1: Passport Bros.

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Speaker 3: Pastport Bros LLC is the leading informational resource dedicating to

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Speaker 3: support men from all backgrounds around the globe.

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Speaker 4: So it's like, okay, seems cool.

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Speaker 2: That's yeah. That it makes it seem like it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we're just trying to help.

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Speaker 3: Me get beautiful traditional women abroad. You have the power

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Speaker 3: to save the lives of millions of men.

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Speaker 1: It looks like the guys by like brides.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like the male order brides, male.

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Speaker 1: Order brides that are not women ordering males. No, it's dude,

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Speaker 1: this would actually that's.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying. This would be a great like lot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's do this. Or is the Sofia special?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Sophia's special. What's it called passport bros?

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Speaker 1: Passport bros and male order brides.

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Speaker 3: It takes courage, in the real confidence to leave the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I do know people that have

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Speaker 2: I think that's different. I think it's still it could

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Speaker 1: Or like I'm really into Tom Holland and.

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Speaker 2: Going to like a lot of people like British coat

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Speaker 2: Sophia did. I didn't meet Tom Holland. A happy relationship

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Speaker 2: What was the point of that, I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: No, Sophia based on UK values? All right, but let's

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Speaker 1: I think that's exactly what. Yeah, we're doing. It's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, especially like the the East, like it seems like

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Speaker 2: it might be like an Eastern European country and they're

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Speaker 1: Where. Yeah, they'd all drive nineteen seventy Ford.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like Prague has an insane clubbing scene and that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Did he go Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I didn't go to the clubs, but we went to

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Speaker 1: Sophia's shenanigans in Prague. We have all kinds of women here,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but also it's so many people do that. The

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Speaker 1: I mean funny if people come to America to find

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's different if you're letting your partner

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Speaker 1: So three, Surprisingly, he never actually told me that he

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Speaker 1: But but this is really close. Do you have an

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Speaker 1: It's you know, that's four. He works at an IT company, allegedly.

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Speaker 2: Wait, she thought he was lying about the Yeah, but I.

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Speaker 1: Mean who knows. I mean he could, but like, who

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Speaker 2: That's even worse because we were talking about like, look,

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Speaker 1: Which I think is fine. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: it doesn't seem like he's done that. It seems like

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Speaker 1: But did that not come up in the relationship before? Like,

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Speaker 2: she's saying, like, actually, traditional women in her culture, why

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Speaker 1: If you were truly traditional like this traditional? Yeah, to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think a lot of people tend

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Speaker 1: People, but they're just all But I did that is

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Speaker 2: I think that can. I mean, I don't think that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the world's not That's not true.

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Speaker 2: That's just you know, biased thinking.

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Speaker 2: Also, most people in Europe spink like so many people

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Speaker 1: Most of us learn a second language since we are

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Speaker 1: And to the person who said that Central European countries

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Speaker 2: I'm really hoping we got the geography right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know we're gonna be like.

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Speaker 2: Such an European, They're gonna be like you, damn American.

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Speaker 1: I told my boyfriend x now that I'd like to

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Speaker 4: Yo, if this gets viral enough, have you guys ever

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I know what it is.

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Speaker 3: You know that scene where like he gets revealed like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and like they're like, wait, come here, come here.

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Speaker 3: Did you help my husband get with me? He's like,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen them, end of my life. And he's like,

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Speaker 3: all right, see you Greg. If it was like that,

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Speaker 3: you let me see your receipts? Did you play passport

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Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, we've just exposed all of the men using

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Speaker 1: My brother in law is Arab, speaks my language and

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Speaker 2: I think that OPI is saying the other husband didn't

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Speaker 1: That's my If you go to a country, go because

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Speaker 1: behavior and will judge passport bros negatively. It's hypocritical. It's

439
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,359
Speaker 1: hypocritical to want a traditional wife but constantly move from

440
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 1: country to country and women to women. Yeah, yeah, discuss

441
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: that behavior definitely isn't considered traditional, at least not in

442
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 1: my country. If you want casual relationships, that's fine because

443
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: there are women here who want the same, but just

444
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,359
Speaker 1: to be honest about it. Thank you again for all

445
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,760
Speaker 1: the comments, explanations and advice. They were eye opening and

446
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,680
Speaker 1: really helpful. Even though I'm disappointed and feel a bit used,

447
00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 1: I'm grateful I know the whole truth. Now we live

448
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: and we learn. I guess.

449
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that Ope got out of that relationship.

450
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: That's a wrap. Yeah. I mean, like, I think it's

451
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:37,240
Speaker 1: one thing to understand the culture, to understand how to

452
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: interact with that culture, to understand how to date with

453
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 1: that within that culture. But like the language of these

454
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 1: passport grow things that we we really didn't dive deep,

455
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: which we made dove, but with these it feels it

456
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: feels very superficial and feels degrading. Towards the women. Absolutely,

457
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: and also I am not wholly unconvinced that he would

458
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: totally do the bait and switch like once they're married,

459
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: be like very traditional.

460
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know, just the fact that he's

461
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: going on these websites and getting advice from them, Like

462
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I think that Op got out at

463
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Speaker 2: a good time.

464
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Like I think it's.

465
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Speaker 2: Good that if this was the first red flag, I'm

466
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: glad that Op.

467
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 1: Was, like, but I wonder like if they're like, what,

468
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: what was the relationship totally fine and this was the

469
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,439
Speaker 1: first thing that happened, because it's like I think.

470
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Speaker 2: Even if it was, I think that's jarring enough to

471
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Speaker 2: be like, I'm.

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I like I a relationship.

473
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:38,080
Speaker 2: I don't know.

474
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe this maybe was a new relationship. But

475
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 1: she was saying, oh, like I'm not going to be

476
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: like someone like great or like I'm not going to

477
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: be a person that like, you don't know anything about

478
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 1: my culture like I I would imagine that would have

479
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: come up in the relationship that like he yeah, he

480
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 1: wasn't like knowledgeable about the culture or whatever. But I like,

481
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 1: as we often say, there have had to be red flags.

482
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 1: There's got to be tons of red it's got to

483
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: be red flags before this moment.

484
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think, yeah, I just think in general

485
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: assuming things about of other cultures, don't. No, because I

486
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 2: had a when I was when I was in Europe,

487
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 2: as it was I was in Europe. I'm so sorry.

488
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how to say that.

489
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Speaker 1: And No, Sophia said the most pretentious thing the other day.

490
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Speaker 1: We were at the nail Soalng getting her nails done

491
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, you're so much better than the

492
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: lady in robe.

493
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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, that makes it something worse. For context, I

494
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: haven't had my nail like I've had my nails done

495
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: maybe a total of like fifteen times in my life.

496
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: And so the most recent time that I had gotten

497
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 2: my nails at a time I feel people get their

498
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: nails done like maybe once a month. Ok yeah, so

499
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: like for fifteen times in twenty two years of my

500
00:23:54,240 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: whole life, Like the most recent one was in and

501
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: she made my hands bleed and she blamed it on me,

502
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 2: And so yeah, we know what I was gonna say.

503
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, going back to the thing about

504
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: assuming cultures. When I was there, I can't remember which

505
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: where I was, but I remember this is there was

506
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 2: this one guy we were talking about like costumes in Halloween.

507
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 2: It might have been in room and it was nearing

508
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 2: Halloween time and we're talking about costumes and we were like, yeah,

509
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: we miss you know, we miss being in we miss

510
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 2: Halloween in America. And he was like, oh, yeah, all

511
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: the all the women in America don't wear anything on Halloween.

512
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: And just like the way he said it assumption it

513
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: was really weird. I don't know, and he like imply

514
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 2: to him but okay, but.

515
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 1: He I mean, I remember at a Halloween at college

516
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: people were wearing.

517
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 2: Very little I understand, but the same thing was happening

518
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 2: in like people were shirtless.

519
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens everywhere exactly.

520
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: And so the thing of like, oh you Americans, that's

521
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: what you like? It felt very weird, and so she's yeah,

522
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: it felt really weird. Yeah, and how what do you

523
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 2: What am I supposed to do that? I was like, oh, yeah,

524
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: they're having fun.

525
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: I was really clothed.

526
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: Also, like you do you It was like he said

527
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: in a very.

528
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: Judging by and said it in like a way to

529
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,640
Speaker 1: like almost of morals.

530
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very degreeing and I was like, yeah,

531
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,400
Speaker 2: they're having fun.

532
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: Good response.

533
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 2: I actually don't know if I said it like that,

534
00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: but that was what I was implying because I didn't

535
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 2: know exactly how to respond. I was like, yeah, yeah,

536
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: it's pretty fun there and it was very awkward.

537
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:39,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that guy was not the Riley. Speaking of vibes,

538
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 1: I heard you had an okay story time about revealing

539
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: your traditional values.

540
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, okay. So we went.

541
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember Tiffany's party, but we

542
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 3: went there and there was a very cute girl, she's

543
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: very beautiful, and I was talking to her.

544
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: Means say, and we're doing some two man, we're doing

545
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 4: so great.

546
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were doing great. And then he was talking

547
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: to one girl. I was talking to her, and then

548
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 3: someone's like shots and then they got shot, and then.

549
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: A lot of background.

550
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: I didn't know how much you wanted, but but anyway,

551
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 3: she left her card at the club.

552
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 1: She called me.

553
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: I met this girl, met this girl, got her card

554
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: of the club.

555
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,679
Speaker 2: She went on a date, and she she.

556
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: Was getting it back when it went on a date

557
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: and she took me to a restaurant and she paid

558
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: for it and she took me to the place.

559
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 2: The whole.

560
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: It was awesome. I was like super attracted to her.

561
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: And then she asked the question, what are your beliefs?

562
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: And I told her my southern sweep boy beliefs.

563
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: His southern conservative belief.

564
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: And she was like, oh, that's cool. I'm completely opposite

565
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: on all of those things. And I was like, oh wow,

566
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 3: but you're really awesome and really cute. And I got

567
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: sad because then we were gonna hang out, and she

568
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 3: was like, would love to be friends, but I don't

569
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: see myself with someone with those views.

570
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 4: And I'm like, but we can. We can be friends.

571
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 4: That's cool.

572
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, rough, Yeah, Riley's just out here looking for his

573
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: like traditional check.

574
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: No, I really knew a lot about past Port.

575
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: It's so crazy that he had that website just pulled

576
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: up instantly.

577
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 4: If I was looking for a traditional woman. She paid

578
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: for the mill. So that's when I was been like,

579
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: I'm done, Yeah, you should let her because this is

580
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four.

581
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: Yeah righty, lets women pay for me pay for my mills?

582
00:27:52,640 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: Me all right? Yeah, I want you to always served

583
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: me with no story.

584
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 2: Story story