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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Our two of Clay and Buck starts

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Speaker 1: right now. Welcome back everybody, or thanks for joining if

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Speaker 1: you're just tuning in. The purchase of Twitter appears imminent.

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Speaker 1: Elon must photos or circulating from him at Twitter headquarters.

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Speaker 1: The lib tears will likely be flowing inside and outside

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Speaker 1: that building. But this is one of these moments where

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Speaker 1: there's more to talk about there, just because of what

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Speaker 1: the implications are for political discourse and Trump getting back

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Speaker 1: on Twitter, for example, what that would mean, because that

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Speaker 1: is likely to happen. I don't know how imminent it is,

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Speaker 1: but I think it is likely to happen very soon.

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Speaker 1: But Clay, we always say this. We're nice guys. We

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Speaker 1: just call it like it is, right. We don't we

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Speaker 1: don't like to be mean to anybody. But if somebody's

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Speaker 1: in a position of substantial power and they are unrepentantly

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Speaker 1: you just gotta understand that the person who is forcing

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Speaker 1: you to do the following things is not a bright individual.

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Speaker 1: That's a necessary point of understanding. And so Kathy Hokel

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Speaker 1: is really dumb. Apparently the governor of New York. Apparently

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Speaker 1: so are her staffers. Now a lot of you I

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Speaker 1: know aren't on Twitter. You need to just um bear

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Speaker 1: with me for a second while I pull this up.

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Speaker 1: There was earlier today a tweet from the official the

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Speaker 1: official New York Post account. I think there were a couple,

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Speaker 1: but there was one in particular. There were four legitimately fake,

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Speaker 1: like you see there like like, we can't. I can't really,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to read them on the air because

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Speaker 1: they're they're highly highly inappropriate, but they are so clearly

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Speaker 1: the result of a hack, as in, someone got access

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Speaker 1: to the New York Post Twitter account. I'm not even

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Speaker 1: is there one that we can read? Really, I don't

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Speaker 1: think we can read any of them, right, I mean

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Speaker 1: they're pretty they're all pretty much across there. But the

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Speaker 1: point is it's like so far beyond what is acceptable. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you would see it and say, oh, they got hacked, right,

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Speaker 1: like if you were reading minor Bucks account, you would

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Speaker 1: have a sense based on what we would say, like

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Speaker 1: here's one that we can read. New York Post tweeted,

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Speaker 1: we must assassinate AOC for America Okay, I didn't even

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Speaker 1: see that one, right, Yes, so that's no one thinks

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Speaker 1: that the New York Post staff or an employee is

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Speaker 1: actually sharing that, right everyone, everyone more too. I've got

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Speaker 1: another one that we can go. This was all happening

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Speaker 1: around the same time, Governor Abbott, I will order border

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Speaker 1: patrol to start slaughtering illegals. All right, like these are there,

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Speaker 1: we go, so outside the bounds, assassinate AOC, slaughter illegal people.

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Speaker 1: Like there are multiple targets, but there's a series of

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Speaker 1: absurdities that clearly are not being sent by the New

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Speaker 1: York Post. If you were to see from my Twitter account,

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Speaker 1: it is time for us to nuke Moscow because of

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Speaker 1: Putin's insufficient deference to the Prince Harry memoir that's coming

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Speaker 1: out called Spare. That's clearly not from me, Like, that's

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Speaker 1: someone who is trolling me, pretending to me. I bring

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Speaker 1: this up because Hocal's press secretary two hours ago wrote this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is the press secretary for the current government New York.

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Speaker 1: The New York Post has long fostered an ugly, toxic

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Speaker 1: conversation on their front pages, but these posts are more

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Speaker 1: disgusting and vile than usual, the New York Post needs

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Speaker 1: to immediately explain how this reprehensible content with it's still up. No,

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Speaker 1: of course, they've deleted them, of course. But everyone else

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Speaker 1: got hacked and Hocal's press secretary jumps cinema. This is

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Speaker 1: even worse than the usual New York Post there, So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right at Clay. So, first of all, I need

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Speaker 1: everyone nursed in. Just because people are powerful or rich

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Speaker 1: or famous, and this audience knows this, it does not

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Speaker 1: mean in the least that they are smart, or they

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Speaker 1: have wisdom, or they are virtuous. None of those things apply.

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Speaker 1: They are very rich, very powerful people who are incredibly stupid,

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Speaker 1: and they're overwhelming the Democrats. Okay, now that all said,

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Speaker 1: the Twitter buyout possibly I'm sorry the Twitter purchase hold on.

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Speaker 1: So I would say an indictment of Kathy Hokel because

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Speaker 1: Kathy Hokel is dumb, and she may have surrounded herself

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Speaker 1: further evidence of all you need to be gone now Twitter. Yes, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is also from the press secretary for HOCl. While

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Speaker 1: the Post has made its preferences clear in the New

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Speaker 1: York governor's race, there is no room for this violent

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Speaker 1: sexist rhetoric in our politics. We demand answers. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: How about the fact that Kathy Hogel's press secretary is

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Speaker 1: actual crimes being committed by people in New York Like

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Speaker 1: that indignation is stronger than any of the indignation when

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Speaker 1: people get pushed in front of subways. Liked just released

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Speaker 1: this that there have been twenty five people shoved in

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Speaker 1: Twenty five people have been shoved in front of subways.

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Speaker 1: Now you can tell me, oh, it's a city of

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Speaker 1: When that train comes, especially if it's an express, it

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Speaker 1: we're also, if you're on a super crowded subway platform,

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Speaker 1: you are putting faith in your fellow New Yorkers and

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Speaker 1: your fellow human beings that they're not going to shove

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Speaker 1: you because you are absolutely I don't care if you

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Speaker 1: on that platform. Twenty five people in the city have

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Speaker 1: by lunatics with a law you know, with a longstanding

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Speaker 1: This is and HOCl saying, well, I'm gonna put up

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Speaker 1: People are idiots. They're idiots. That's almost one every week, right,

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Speaker 1: This is a shame. Maybe it'll only be twenty percent

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Speaker 1: and they're talking about conversational health on the platform and

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Speaker 1: inclusiveness and diversity. And that's the bureaucracy that has been

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Speaker 1: larded into this company that has made it one an

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Speaker 1: Elon is not buying it at a as a capitalist

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Speaker 1: exchange of ideas. You know, Clay, I'm not I'm a

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Speaker 1: blue check like you. I'm not allowed to stream to

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Speaker 1: It's been I got suspended. I've forgot to even bring

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Speaker 1: No one, no one ever explains why. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the kind of stuff that they do to people. Trump

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Speaker 1: a good thing for Trump? Well, those are two big questions.

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Speaker 1: also say buck about firing people. I think that was

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk was trying to get out there in that story, saying, Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's going to replace seventy five percent of employees, And

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Speaker 1: There are some very close, very important races underway right now,

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Speaker 1: to doctor Scott Jensen. He's running for governor in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: He can win this one, folks, but we have our

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Speaker 1: Minnesotans listening right now. They're going to have to mobilize

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Speaker 1: behind him, doctor Jensen. There are some people out there

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Speaker 1: still in the political world in this country who are

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Speaker 1: saying things like Kathy Hockel New York says kids should

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Speaker 1: still be in masks. How much is the backlash against

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Speaker 1: not only COVID authoritarianism, but being wrong and being authoritarian

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Speaker 1: when it comes to COVID affecting the minute so to race.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting. I think it's a really interesting question. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for asking. I think what we saw was this,

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Speaker 1: especially in like twenty twenty, we saw anything that went

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Speaker 1: against sort of the liberal news narrative. It was misinformation,

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Speaker 1: and they never recanted even when they're proven wrong. For instance,

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Speaker 1: right now, I've been very clear there will be no

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Speaker 1: mandates in Minnesota whereby kids have to take COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: vaccines in order to attend school. I've been very clear

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Speaker 1: Tim Walls won't respond to them. But if you go

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Speaker 1: back to that question that tantalized America, and even now

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Speaker 1: we're starting to see reports from the Senate, the US Senate,

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Speaker 1: where did the COVID nineteen virus come from? And there

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Speaker 1: were many people, including myself that thought that this most

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Speaker 1: likely would be a natural reassortment of RNA material between

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Speaker 1: different species. But Robert Redfield, the former CDC director, he

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Speaker 1: came out after he is no longer CDC director and

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Speaker 1: said that he was uncomfortable attributing that COVID nineteen virus

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Speaker 1: more data that would indicate that it probably was a

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Speaker 1: lab incident. Even today we're seeing this come out in

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Speaker 1: the news. Or what does that mean? Does that mean

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Speaker 1: that the people that ridiculed you or me about spreading

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Speaker 1: misinformation are they going to now apologize to us and say, well,

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Speaker 1: I guess it wasn't that way. There was a signature

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Speaker 1: sequence of amino acid basis on the COVID nineteen virus

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Speaker 1: that people recognized a long time ago didn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be consistent with that which would happen in nature. It

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Speaker 1: would potentially happen in a laboratory produced virus. So are

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Speaker 1: these people going to apologize to us or are they

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Speaker 1: just going to sort of brush that under the rug. No,

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Speaker 1: they're never going to apologize, and frankly, many of us

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Speaker 1: out there who were asking these questions are going to

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Speaker 1: be validated. I think the irony here in many ways,

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Speaker 1: as you well know, doctor Jensen, is that people try

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Speaker 1: to claim they're going to be on the right side

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Speaker 1: of history, and anybody who studies history knows it's difficult.

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Speaker 1: And I feel pretty confident that people who locked down

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Speaker 1: this country and took kids out of school for months

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Speaker 1: are going to end up on the wrong side of history.

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Speaker 1: Quite clearly, they already are, doctor Jensen. Thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: What can people do in these last eleven days to

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Speaker 1: try to make sure that you are able to get

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Speaker 1: to that governor's office in Minnesota? Two things we need

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Speaker 1: the financial support. The Democratic money machine is alive and well.

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Speaker 1: Our website is Dr Scott j E n SCN dot

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Speaker 1: com and we'd love you to support us and help us.

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Speaker 1: But the other thing is I would ask all Minnesotans

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Speaker 1: and even all Americans to remember that on March thirteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, our lives changed, because that's when Governor Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls issued his executive order, this first executive order declaring

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Speaker 1: a peacetime state of emergency. And from there he told

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Speaker 1: family businesses were shut you down. He told kids, you're

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Speaker 1: locked out of schools, and he told sick, frail nursing

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Speaker 1: home patients, you're going to die alone. That day should

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Speaker 1: be burned into our psyche. March thirteenth, twenty twenty, Minnesota

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Speaker 1: was no longer governed by a governor. An emperor had

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Speaker 1: taken seat. It's really well, said doctor Jensen. We're for you.

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Speaker 1: We're going to help you as as much as we

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Speaker 1: can these next eleven days. Hope everybody listening to us

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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and beyond will do so as well. Thank you, doctor,

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Speaker 1: En Clay sure, Avis buck Sexton, show our thanks to

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Speaker 1: doctor Scott Jensen. We're gonna be joined by Matt Larkin.

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Speaker 1: A lot of listeners out there in Seattle. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you. He is fighting to flip a seat

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Speaker 1: out in the Seattle area. He's going to join us

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Speaker 1: top in the next hour, but the fallout continue. Used

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Speaker 1: from the most disastrous performance in a debate I have

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Speaker 1: ever seen, John Fetterman. There is an article up on NBC,

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Speaker 1: so they are still parsing the disaster that was that debate,

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Speaker 1: and some of these quotes are You're going to enjoy them,

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Speaker 1: but they're also pretty wild. So Chris Kofinis is a

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Speaker 1: veteran Democrat campaign strategist. Here's what he said in the

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Speaker 1: NBC article. He should not have debated. Anyone on his

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Speaker 1: team who agreed to a debate should be fired or

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Speaker 1: never work again, because that debate may have tanked his campaign.

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Speaker 1: Other quotes there are senior Democrat aide saying, well, this

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Speaker 1: is Carrie Mosley, a Democrat consultant and grassroots activist in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: Folks are pretty much freaking out on the Democrat side.

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Speaker 1: Another anonymous source said, I really question the judgment that

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Speaker 1: he continued with this race, and there are so many

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Speaker 1: different people out there. Terry Madonna, a longtime Pennsylvania polster,

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Speaker 1: didn't mince words. He said, the fact of the matter

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Speaker 1: is his performance was obviously very questionable and it's just

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Speaker 1: dominated the news. He said, he's never seen a debate

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Speaker 1: performance this bad. And Buck this is funny to me

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Speaker 1: because remember the early immediate response Democrat media tried to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a fine Now the I think

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Speaker 1: they're starting to see the reaction to debate. Did the

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Speaker 1: debate come in from the public and they're recognizing what

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Speaker 1: a cataclysmic failure that was for their campaign. Yes, this

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Speaker 1: has been going on for months. Okay, this is what

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Speaker 1: the Democrats have created and all out get power at

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Speaker 1: any cost echo chamber. So anybody who would have, even

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Speaker 1: for the po is of self correction within the Democrat

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Speaker 1: Party said hey, guys, I think we got to think

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Speaker 1: about this one. It would be shut up, you know

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Speaker 1: the Republicans or threats to democracy, and you know all

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Speaker 1: the stuff that they always say, right, oh, women's right

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Speaker 1: to reproductive health choice freedom also known as abortion. All

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Speaker 1: of these things that they throw out there silenced anybody

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Speaker 1: who was just saying the obvious when you silenced the obvious, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is one of the great failures of wokeness.

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Speaker 1: Wokeness always insists that you cannot say things that are

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Speaker 1: obviously true. That that's if you're going to be truly woke.

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Speaker 1: You have to be willing to say things that are

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Speaker 1: obviously false. They created this mess for themselves. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is they've known this. Anybody

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Speaker 1: a friend in Pennsylvania. I remember I asked about this

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Speaker 1: like last June. I was like, Hey, what's going on

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Speaker 1: with the speederment? Guys like, oh man, you don't even know.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's like people knew that this was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: People knew that he just had a severe stroke. And

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Speaker 1: yet now they're turning around. You know, it's a little

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Speaker 1: late in the game. Is when I'm getting at here

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Speaker 1: to do the whole Oh man, I would have never

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Speaker 1: I would have never allowed this to happen. The Federman situation,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, when you're high dive champion belly flops

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Speaker 1: and waddles out of the pool. Afterwards, it's easy to say,

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Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't have had him in the lineup. Good quote.

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Speaker 1: Last night, I was out to dinner with some friends.

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz came into town. You guys know because because

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Speaker 1: he was speaking, and Andy Ogules is going to be

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Speaker 1: the next congressman from my area of town. We had

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Speaker 1: a great event last night in Franklin, Tennessee. But I

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Speaker 1: and there were several political consultants there at the dinner

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Speaker 1: and one of them said something that I thought was

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Speaker 1: the decision of Federman to debate and what a disaster

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Speaker 1: it was at the dinner, and one of the political

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Speaker 1: consultants said, candidates win elections, but consultants can lose elections.

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Speaker 1: And John Fetterman's consultants lost him the election in that

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Speaker 1: debate on Tuesday night. Can I just that was just

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Speaker 1: it was. It was dead and done not to you know,

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Speaker 1: stand up for the absolutely a moral lib consultants that

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Speaker 1: are I'm sure surrounding John Fetterman. But was not debating

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Speaker 1: at all really an option either. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: but you won't show up for debate, for a debate,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is remarkable. It's like, okay, I actually

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Speaker 1: told the beforehand. You know, I've been told by friends

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Speaker 1: of mine that know the legal system, They're like, look,

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Speaker 1: if you get pulled over and you know you might

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Speaker 1: have had a few too many better at least in

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Speaker 1: New York. I think if if you refuse to blow

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Speaker 1: which is you know, it's a it's a real penalty, right,

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Speaker 1: But if you know you're gonna blow and it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be over the limit, don't blow, like take the hit.

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Speaker 1: So I think, in essence, that's what this would have been,

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Speaker 1: because not showing up to debate is like getting a

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Speaker 1: six month suspended license. I mean, you can come back

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Speaker 1: from that maybe, but that's not a good thing. But

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Speaker 1: if you if you blow a you know, a one

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Speaker 1: point two, you're in a lot of trouble. So you know,

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Speaker 1: Katie Hobbs is not debating in Arizona and she's gonna

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Speaker 1: lose that election. And we think, would you be dead

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Speaker 1: if you blew one point to what's the what is

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Speaker 1: the point? It's point zero eight? I think it's point

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Speaker 1: it's point one one point two percent of your body

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Speaker 1: with alcohol. You yeah, so just think that's like four

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Speaker 1: A while to hide, yes, you know. So, I just

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Speaker 1: want to clarify because people are like bucked as I

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Speaker 1: have no idea. I barely drink and I certainly never drink.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the number now is point zero eight.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I think that's the number of So if

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Speaker 1: you if you do a point two, I'm saying that's

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Speaker 1: a bad thing, right. Point two is like your rat

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Speaker 1: I mean there's an anesthetic level drunk where you'd be

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Speaker 1: like it's almost impossible for you to be able to move.

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Speaker 1: Um and uh, but but so, but Katie Hobbs is

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Speaker 1: not debating, and you just heard from Scott Jensen who

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Speaker 1: was saying that Tim Walz refused to debate him. You

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Speaker 1: would have cannydia focus though on those races. To be fair, right,

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Speaker 1: the odds things Ana has been a national user. He

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Speaker 1: would have gotten deemed more and more on it because

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Speaker 1: of the health. But I don't think refusing to debate

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Speaker 1: could have been as bad as being as awful as

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Speaker 1: it could not have been worse really than what it was.

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Speaker 1: I think that is true. I just my question is,

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Speaker 1: and I would ask this and we'll talk about it,

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Speaker 1: I think continuously as we'd come up on the next

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Speaker 1: eleven days. Was he so much worse than they thought?

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Speaker 1: Because if they did a practice debate and he was

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Speaker 1: that bad, I would think people would just say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're not doing this. Was he actually even worse they

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Speaker 1: knew he was going to be bad. We're thinking about

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Speaker 1: what out to Seattle next with Matt Larkin. Big race there,