WEBVTT - The Group Chat Episode 3: Opening Statements 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.800 On this episode of the Group Chat, we are checking 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.120 in mid training camp in in lieu of it being 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:10.000 debate season. We're throwing out some opening statements, including should 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:13.920 we agree with the rants that D'Angelo Williams has recently 0:00:14.000 --> 0:00:17.560 thrown out there. I respect the fact that he's going 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.000 out there and he's making this career and he is 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:23.880 trying to be as honest as he can be. But 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.920 also he's having fun and I think that's fine. And 0:00:28.000 --> 0:00:31.320 how will the Panthers balance all the playmakers that they 0:00:31.360 --> 0:00:34.599 have on offense? The more likely big play scenario I 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:37.360 think is involving Curtis in DJ and I think that's 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:39.840 going to take taking some more shots down field camp 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.479 physically couldn't do it last year. I think, fingers crossed, 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:43.720 he's going to be able to do it for a 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.000 full season. We then finished with our mid training camp 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.240 m vps. I'm a little bit split here. I wanted 0:00:50.280 --> 0:00:53.200 to give out co MVP awards, but that never goes 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.840 over well with those who win. All of that and more. 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:08.759 On this episode of the Group Chat, you've been added 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:12.560 to the Group Chat with your friends Caroline can Max Sensen, 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:17.039 and will Brian. Welcome to the group chats. We're all 0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:20.680 sitting here. We think that we have our days correct, 0:01:20.800 --> 0:01:23.920 but with training camp, you never we never really know 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:27.600 exactly what day it is, how many practices we've had, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:30.720 and where like are we playing a game soon? Are 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.360 they going to start playing? Coming up? Yeah? Next week 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.240 in Chicago there was a week zero game. Did anybody 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:37.960 watch the Hall of Fame? I didn't watch any of that. 0:01:38.080 --> 0:01:41.520 I heard that Atlanta at a fourth quarter lead and 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:45.680 then blew up stop it. I think they did. I think, 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:48.880 oh my gosh, coming out of the gate hot here. 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:51.320 I like that. Good job. We'll all for the all. 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:53.400 For the people in the group chat, we we do 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:55.200 welcome you to the group chat of this year, first 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.560 time listening. We're just getting this thing off the ground 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.880 and running. And it was really fun on on Twitter 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.080 to see some people wonder, how like this is this 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.560 is a podcast, This is not an actual group chat 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:11.520 where we actually text one another. There is there is 0:02:11.560 --> 0:02:14.560 a group chat on text about the group there there 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.119 is that. I will say no because I think we're 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:20.400 still trying to decide do we want to flood our 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.440 producer with all of our thoughts. So I thought about 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.800 going in and making just the three of us have 0:02:25.880 --> 0:02:28.000 the group chat. But then I didn't want Matt to 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.359 feel left out, so we're still working through that. Matt, 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:33.120 will you shake your head if you would like to 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.840 be in the group chat about the group chat or 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.040 if you oh, he's shaking his head. Yes he does. 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.720 Matt have a nickname? Is he like producer Matt? Like? 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:43.920 What are we calling Matt? We've got to come up 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.880 with this. Those of you listening, his his name is Matt. 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:51.880 He's our producer. Come up with a name, thank you. 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:54.600 We'll have to work on that. Yeah, do you have 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:56.960 it like a DJ name. He's got a nice gotee 0:02:56.960 --> 0:03:01.360 working right, alright? That you got the gotee, spiky hair. 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:04.920 I like this. He's got glasses, so he always wears 0:03:04.960 --> 0:03:06.920 headphones when we see him, so he could be like 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:09.919 headphone Matt or something like that. So we have all 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:11.840 right that add that to our list of things to 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:13.480 do in this training camp. Have come up with a 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:16.440 name for a producer, Matt. This is a great driver. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.799 This is our first time here. Good luck. Because we 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.000 like to have a plan when we come in, but 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:24.840 like all good group chats, we don't always stick to 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.440 that plan. So we have some things planned for you. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.000 I'm interested to see what Will is going to bring 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:31.679 to the table, because these last couple of times, Will 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.480 has been who's gotten us a little bit off track. 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:35.240 It's gonna be great. There's gonna be a lot of gifts, 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:37.800 or Jeff's as Amy likes to say, there's gonna be 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.520 some gifts thrown in here. Jeff is peanut butter. Gifts 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:44.240 has been images that are sending glad. Alright, well, glad, 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.280 that's settled. All right, We're gonna move into our first 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.360 little segment here. That's if you've been paying attention to 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:53.560 anything other than football, you know that it is debate season. Okay, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:57.320 the Democratic debates have been going on. They've been fascinating, 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:00.400 Like all debates, are not sure if anything gets a published, 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.560 but we're going to do that here. So each of 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:06.000 us have brought to the table an opening statement. So 0:04:06.080 --> 0:04:10.920 welcome to the two thousand nineteen Carolina Panthers training camp, 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:16.320 preseason all in one really about this twenty nineteen campaign. 0:04:16.400 --> 0:04:19.040 Welcome to our debate. So we don't have a moderator, 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.880 so I'm going to be the moderator. We're just going 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.800 to roll through this our first candidate up with his 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:30.080 opening statement, we have will Brian William, William, Charles Bryan. 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.080 Oh that's a good one. Yeah, we gotta reverse it though, 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:35.480 is it really Yeah, you're one of those who's child. 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:38.680 So your first name is actually Charles, Charles is this 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.120 this is? This is a tooth thing. I'm I'm a 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:43.720 middle namer. Yeah. Why is in the South? You guys 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.839 do this all the time. It doesn't make anything. You 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:52.000 got You're here, Come on, Mac, But why don't you 0:04:52.120 --> 0:04:56.400 moved here? Buddy? If it's your middle name, like, why not? 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.200 Like the big reason? So for me, my mom his 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:04.200 name is Nancy. So my name is a family name, 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.200 Nancy Caroline. So for a long time I went by 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.359 the double name. So it was named Caroline until I 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.840 was nine, but everyone always shortened that to Nancy. Well 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:16.200 that's my mom, So I asked when I was not, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.760 can I please just go by Caroline so that I'm OK. 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.440 So the their plan for you was your name to 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.080 becy Caroline, Okay, and you just sort of But I 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:28.120 feel like I've heard a lot of people like Will 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.440 who the plan at birth was this is your first 0:05:31.520 --> 0:05:33.840 name and this is your middle name. But then they 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.880 just start going by their middle name, like from the beginning, 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.080 like that's just understood. It's like, no, we're gonna call 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.640 you sounds better like I guess, like, did you grow 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:43.680 into this? And it's like, oh, yeah, he's more of 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:45.800 a will than he would be a Charlie. I mean, 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.120 I was actually a William, more of a William. I 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.960 was a William until college and they started signing things 0:05:51.000 --> 0:05:54.000 will because I'm like, there's a lot of options you 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:55.960 could do with William, though, So I'm happy that you 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.320 landed on my sixth grade My sixth grade teacher called 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.040 me Billy. Yeah, weird. I don't like that. That's weird. 0:06:02.560 --> 0:06:08.320 Welcome to the group. That's exactly what happened. That was Max. Okay, 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.800 so everyone collect yourselves and let's go back to the 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:20.600 debate season. First up in our debate here, our opening 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:25.360 statement will be from will Billy Bill Charles William the 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:31.200 third go ahead. Lay off to Angelo. Williams. Lay off 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:35.000 him because here's the thing, de'angelo. As much as I 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.240 disagree with a lot of the things he says, and 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.120 some of them are out right wrong, I respect the 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.400 fact that he's going out there and he's making this 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:48.040 career and he is trying to be as honest as 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.560 he can be, but also he's having fun. And I 0:06:51.600 --> 0:06:53.839 think that's fine, Like I really do. I think I 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.719 think it's fine for a guy to go out to 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.640 be out there in the media and to trash whoever 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.000 he wants to trash. He's literally taking a page out 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.560 of a politicians book. I'm aware of that. This sounds 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:07.240 like someone else that we know, except here's the difference. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:10.920 Here's the difference. One of them, it's it's football and 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:14.520 it's entertainment and people are literally like thinking this is 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:16.200 the end of the world and they have to like 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.520 block him on Twitter and burn jerseys. The other one, like, 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.720 there's things that actually like matter in like affect people, 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.360 you know that having that have a different to Angela 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.760 is just having fun like this is like worldwide wrestling 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:28.960 to him. So do you agree with what, like some 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.520 of the things that he's saying, though, Yeah, let's let's 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.559 let's recap for some people who may not be aware 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.080 of what was said, give us a little bit of 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:38.320 a recap, all right. So it's like, for instance, this 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.080 morning on F and Z, right before Max came on, 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:46.280 Um d'angela was talking about the way that he felt 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:49.800 like with the Panthers and with any organization, frankly, that 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.000 he felt like he was just kind of a jersey. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:55.560 He was just a thirty four. He wasn't D'Angelo Williams. 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.440 And I think for most organizations that's how you know players. 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:01.320 Players are a part of this. You know, they're the 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.040 running back there, you know this number or whatever. He 0:08:04.040 --> 0:08:06.520 he would he didn't want to wear the jersey when 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:08.920 he went out to community appearances. He wanted people just 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.800 to see him for him. And I think I think 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.600 that there's something to that, and I think that is 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.240 honest to present that point of view that like, listen, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.120 you know, I might play for another team, I might 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.600 go to a different city. I might not retire and 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:23.600 live here in Charlotte. I want people to know who 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.680 I am and when I'm about, apart from me being 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.800 a good running back. Shoot, if I have a bad game, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.760 is running back? Does that mean that my contributions to 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.600 this you know, habitat project aren't as good because you know, 0:08:34.600 --> 0:08:37.280 I fumbled three times last week, Like that's kind of unfair, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:40.040 and so like I understand where he's coming from in 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.280 terms of that the problem is he leads into that 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.560 by like trolling this Twitter guy that you know, maybe 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:47.760 or may not like like him, and so he's gonna 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:49.960 like say something about the dudes, you know, family or 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.760 something so well, and didn't he also starts, you know, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:54.280 he set sometulf about Cam, Correct me if I'm wrong. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:55.920 Didn't he say something along the lines of if you 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.000 take away Cam's m v PCs. And he's been a 0:08:58.000 --> 0:09:01.000 pretty like pedestrian quarterback. So it's not just like would 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:02.480 be one thing if he was just talking about his 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.640 own experience, but he is. Now, you know, he's been 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:09.720 fairly consistently talking about other players and coaches and management 0:09:09.760 --> 0:09:12.160 and sharing those I think he's doing. I think he's 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.720 doing a really good job of making a name for himself. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:17.520 Now that's that's his responsibility. I think when I hear 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.920 him talk about it, it's like, that's that's great in theory, 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:22.760 but it's up to you to make your name outside 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.800 of football. You wouldn't be a household, household name if 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:27.800 we're gonna put quotes around that. People wouldn't know who 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:31.079 you are without the NFL umbrella, without the Panther umbrella. 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.679 So yeah, we are going to put you in a 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.360 jersey to walk out, because there are some kids at 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:39.000 this habitat builder or families that they don't recognize you 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.240 away from football. Now, once you're there, it's up to 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:45.000 you to make a personal impact with them. So it 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:46.880 is one of those of like, I agree, he's he's 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.720 doing that now. He's making a name for himself now 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:53.000 away from the NFL, shielding away from the Panthers and 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.280 doing all that. So I'm with you. I'm all here 0:09:55.360 --> 0:10:00.600 for it. But whoa talk about? I mean, you're not 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.720 getting that, you're not having if you want to be 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.440 known for all of these good things, I'm not sure 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:07.760 you're doing it right. Yeah, it seems like a concerted 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:13.160 effort to trash former teammates and this team as much 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.800 as he can. And I think that's where people's issue is. 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:17.920 It'd be one thing if it was like, Okay, yeah, 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.720 this is an opportunity where it's a fair criticism and 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.800 you know, you're pretty balanced with your views and you 0:10:24.160 --> 0:10:26.600 play both sides, you look at both sides, you do 0:10:26.640 --> 0:10:29.040 it in a way that's fair and balance. It doesn't 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.120 seem like that's his approach. His approach is seeming to 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:34.520 be any opportunity, and even when there doesn't seems to 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.840 be an opportunity, he just feels like taking his his shots, 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.360 which and I think that's what people have a problem, 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.600 which is the difference between him and Steve Smith, because 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.480 one could argue that, you know, Steve had reason to 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.280 be upset when he left as well, and you know, 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.640 he now has a platform, he now has a mic 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.960 in front of him, and he's taken shots when he's 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:56.840 seen them to be relevant and journalistically, you know, appropriate. 0:10:57.120 --> 0:10:59.280 He spreads he spreads it around, and he spreads it around. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.000 I don't know if approp it's the right word, but 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.640 it's always entertaining in a good way. Right. But I mean, 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.120 for the most part, Steve's right like he And that's 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.040 the problem with the Angelo is that d' angelo will 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:12.920 say something that probably objectively is accurate, but then he's 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:15.720 circling it around with all this other crap that's not 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.880 because he's just trying to, you know, go right at 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.920 one thing, which might be the difference between Steve having 0:11:21.960 --> 0:11:26.240 a long and successful broadcasting career in d'An angelo making 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:29.000 every once in a while appearances on first take. Yeah, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:30.960 and it's obvious that d' angelo gets a lot of 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:33.240 enjoyment out of playing this role, like he's he's a 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:36.679 big wrestling fan and to use like the wrestling term. 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:39.400 He likes being the heel, like he clearly likes being 0:11:39.400 --> 0:11:42.120 the guy that everybody is kind of booing a little bit, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.440 and I think he kind of welcomes it um and 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.920 it's obvious with his actions and you know, he'll say 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:48.640 something and then I'll hop on F and Z for 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.720 an hour and talk more about it. It's it's like 0:11:50.760 --> 0:11:53.320 a it's a vicious cycle that I think he gets 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:56.800 a lot of enjoyment. He enjoyed every bit of his 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.760 his appearance on the radio, like they were literally arguing 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:01.680 with him and going at him the entire time, and 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:07.000 he was laughing. Smith he is this Stephen a Smith 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:11.320 esque person. So I don't think this opening statement well 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.480 is making it to the next debate, because do you 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:18.440 agree and disagree with your statement? And it's easy aut 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.559 like Layoff is how is that not like every politician 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.760 in the debate, but you're out, we have to eliminate. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.199 There has to be in next debate and you get eliminated. 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:32.240 So we agree but disagree with Layoff, don't lay off. 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.400 He doesn't want you to lay off. He wants you 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.560 to continue that point and bring it on. That's a 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:41.360 good point. Yeah, all right, there was your opening statement. 0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:47.160 Number one going to number two. Max Okay, the current 0:12:47.240 --> 0:12:50.959 running back on the Panthers, um Christian McCaffrey. I think 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:54.559 it's better for the Panthers if Christian McCaffrey has less 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:57.640 touches this season. And this was a topic of conversation 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.120 after Christian met the media, camp and Or Turner had 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:03.040 spoken to the media and and Ron Wade in everybody 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:05.280 wanting to know is he getting too much of a workload? 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.720 Do they have to take some of it off his plate? This, that, 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.319 and the other. I just think a hundred and seven 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.319 catches is a tremendous individual season for running back. With 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:15.600 the record breaking season, carrying the ball as much as 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:18.320 he did over a thousand yards, a fantastic individual season. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.720 All the all the christ McCaffrey fantasy owners are probably 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:24.319 not gonna like this, But from a Panther's perspective, if 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.320 he finishes with like, let's say, seventy catches and the 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.520 thirties seven of those other ones are spread around to 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:32.000 guys like Curtis, Samuel D. J. Moore and Greg Olson, 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:34.160 who hopefully is healthy. I think you've got a much 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:36.559 more balanced offense, and they need to stretch the field 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.040 in a way that you're not going to be able 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.960 to with Christian. It's a lot of checkdown, dump off 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.760 things that was comfortable for Cam last year. I think 0:13:43.760 --> 0:13:45.640 if he's able to stretch the field with DJ and 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.440 Curtis and those reception numbers for those guys are going up, 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:50.520 I think you've got a much better offense that's gonna 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.199 be much more dangerous. So I think it will be 0:13:52.280 --> 0:13:54.400 a good thing if Christian and I know he's not 0:13:54.400 --> 0:13:56.520 gonna like to see either if his touches go down. 0:13:56.559 --> 0:13:59.840 So it's touches, not like I'm okay with him being 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.920 catches the ball or is it just when he's running 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.959 the ball like catches and catches and rushes, but you're 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.839 okay with him being out there for I think that 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.240 the plays don't bother. That's a that's a big distinction 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.200 that Norvi has tried to make that Christians try to make. 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.280 There's a difference between everyone talks about. I don't have 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.079 a problem with the plays, yeah, because I think that's 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:17.520 the number of people have been drawn to. It's like, 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.600 oh my god, explain of the snaps. That's crazy. Um. Yeah, 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:23.680 he's not touching the ball every time, and so it's 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:25.360 not like he's dealing with the wear and tear of 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:30.600 getting hit by two pound linebackers. A lot of times 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.840 he's running into the flat and he's just a decoy. 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.160 And I think that's the value of Christian in so 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.760 many ways. He's going to attract so much attention that's 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.440 going to open things up for the other guys in 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:41.840 this offense. So I don't have a problem with the plays. 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:44.280 It's the touches that I think. Honestly, they just need 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.040 to spread the ball around more. And I think Curtis 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.760 especially has proven that he deserves more than forty five catches. 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.320 I mean, that guy has got the talent, uh that 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.760 you want to see it, um, And so I think 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:58.240 his his numbers need to increase. And there's only one 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.600 ball to go around, right. If Greg Olsen's gonna be healthy, 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.720 that guy warrants about eighty catches a year or so. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.200 I think if all things fall into place for this team, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.240 Kristen's numbers should naturally take a little bit of a dib. 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:12.280 I'm gonna disagree with this. Do it because I think 0:15:12.560 --> 0:15:17.640 the I think if he has the same amount of touches, 0:15:17.720 --> 0:15:19.880 I'm getting hold on. Do you think he will have 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.280 or will not have the same amount. I think it'd 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.040 be better. I think it'd be better for this team 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.520 if he has a fewer touches. See, I think the 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.680 touches stay around the same. I don't think he'll have 0:15:29.720 --> 0:15:31.840 as much as last year because last year was out 0:15:31.840 --> 0:15:34.880 of necessity. I think this year it'll be out of 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:38.320 like we can do this. I think when you have 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.000 a playmaker like Christian McCaffrey, you have to use him 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.160 like I get You know, you're going to be able 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:45.680 to spread the ball around more and that's going to 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:48.200 be fantastic. But I think instead of him being a decoy, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.640 I don't think he'll play as many snaps. But I 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.800 do think when he's in there, like you have to 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:56.240 give him the ball. He's explosive. He makes these big plays. 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.400 I just don't think. I still think their goal is 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:01.640 to get him to touch the ball as many times. 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.440 I don't think he'll be catching it as much. I 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:06.680 don't think his reception numbers going to be, but this 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.640 team like running the ball. I just think when you 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.080 look at who they're going to be spreading the ball 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.080 around to with Curtis and DJ and Olsen and you know, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.120 all of these ball catchers. Outside of that, I still 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:19.920 think he's a ball catcher in that sense. But they're 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.280 gonna be running the ball more effectively this year. Because 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.000 you can spread the ball around, I think it's going 0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:26.600 to open it up for him. So I think he 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:30.920 gets the same touches, just not as many snaps. I 0:16:30.920 --> 0:16:32.680 didn't think about it was they ran the ball extremely 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:34.680 effectively last year. They were number one in the NFL, 0:16:34.680 --> 0:16:37.080 and yards per rush they finished fourth, and rushing overall. 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.960 I think they need bigger plays in the passing game 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:43.040 and you're not going to yeah, I look, look, they 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.440 definitely want to run the ball at a high level um, 0:16:45.520 --> 0:16:48.160 but I think for them to be more successful on offense, 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:52.080 and it's so hard to matriculate the ball down the 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:55.360 field with ten twelve play drives every time, and as 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.600 explosive as Christian is, it's rare that you're going to 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:01.200 get him in the flat. He makes three guys miss 0:17:01.240 --> 0:17:03.280 and takes it off for fifty yards. The more likely 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.160 big play scenario I think is involving Curtis in DJ 0:17:06.600 --> 0:17:08.640 and I think that's going to take taking some more 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.240 shots down field. Cam physically couldn't do it last year. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.159 I think, fingers crossed, he's going to be able to 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.320 do it for a full season this year. And that 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.800 would mean then those checkdown options to Christian that were 0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:21.240 the best option last year, I think this year he's 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:22.840 got to have his eyes down feel a little bit more, 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.480 and he's got to take more shots with those guys 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.720 who've proven in camp so far at least that they're 0:17:26.760 --> 0:17:28.320 ready to take advantage from the balls in the air. 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.399 But but even then, weeks went through eight, Carolina was 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.320 six and two. I mean, obviously there are some things 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:35.280 that were lingering. You know, the the deep ball wasn't 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.560 really there. We didn't really see it as as much 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.320 as we could have because we were winning or the 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:42.560 Panthers are winning. But six and two, Cam ranked and 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:48.840 had it was on pace for a career high and completion. Right, 0:17:49.200 --> 0:17:51.439 here's the thing. If you can go deep and if 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:53.639 you can get the ball to DJ and Curtis and 0:17:53.720 --> 0:17:58.240 still complete at that level, then then absolutely, But if 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:01.120 if you're if you're rocking back and you're going deep 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.320 and it's not there, and all of a sudden, it's 0:18:03.359 --> 0:18:05.720 third and twelve when it could have been you know, 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.440 or it's third and ten when it could have been 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:10.480 third and two. Because to four yard dump offs to 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.439 Christian worked, you know. I mean, like the thing with 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.679 those dump offs, you're gonna get four to five yards 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:19.680 period like you're going to he doesn't get stopped for losses. Yep. 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.200 And I think it's a defense they're willing to give 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:25.840 that up. You know. Well, I think a defensive mentality 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.200 will be will make you beat us with four and 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.480 five yard dump off passes a Christian, Well, we'll live 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:32.600 with that. And I think that's I think what makes 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.360 this offense much scarier in the eyes of opposing defenses 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.960 is the idea of Curtis Samuel one on one on 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.479 the outside and can being able to hit him if 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.719 he's open, Because we saw that last year where Curtis 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.720 was open, the ball just couldn't get there. But he's 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:46.800 got to hit him exactly, you know. I think that 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.040 that's the caveat he hast to hit him. He has 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:50.960 to be able to complete at a high rate. And 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:52.840 I think we all just sort of are looking out 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:54.640 for a Christian, right, I mean, we want to see 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:58.719 this guy have a really long, successful career, and he 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.920 has puts himself in a bus aedition with his training 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.280 to handle this kind of workload. But I don't think 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:06.359 anybody is really going to be mad if he's still 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.840 effective and is maybe touching the ball a little bit 0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:11.359