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Speaker 1: My name is Coby Creno.

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Speaker 2: You can watch me every week on NWA Power or

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Speaker 2: NWA USA. You can follow me on Twitter at Cooby

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Speaker 2: Creno or Instagram at Kobe dot Carino. You can go

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Speaker 2: to my merch page at Coby Crano dot Bigcartel dot com.

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Speaker 2: You get some of the sweet NWA merch at the

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Speaker 2: National Wrestling Alliance dot com slash shop. And you are

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Speaker 2: watching the Battleground Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Why from the parts Unknown Studios into.

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Speaker 4: The double Battle Crowd, down.

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Speaker 5: The battle Bound, the Battle Crowd. Welcome to the Battleground Podcast,

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Speaker 5: your place for all things pro wrestling, the Battle.

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Speaker 3: The Battle Round.

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Speaker 5: Now making their way to the microphones, give it up

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Speaker 5: for your hosts.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Battle Crown. What some of you guys

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Speaker 3: Welcome into the Battleground Podcast. So this is the weekly

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio Wrestling podcast. I'm gonna bring in my tag team

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Speaker 3: partner Eli. And we've said this before on the show,

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Speaker 3: and you kind of know who or what we're doing

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Speaker 3: with the show all by looking at what Eli is

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Speaker 3: wearing now, I mean you see it every interview, he's

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Speaker 3: got a hint of our guests or where they're from. Correct.

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Speaker 4: I try to try to this one. This one was

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Speaker 4: not planned. The guests and I we did not court

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Speaker 4: the color coordinate. I think real quick, I think we

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Speaker 4: want to shout out Crockett Couples last weekend in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: We want to thank Kyle Davis, Billy Corgan, Brisco's, Jeff Jarrett,

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Speaker 4: Emil Camille, Dan Crockett, David Crockett. That was incredible. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they took care of us the whole time. We had

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Speaker 4: really good chats before the bit.

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Speaker 5: Excuse me, they took care of us at the event.

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Speaker 5: I mean it was just top to bottom. It was incredible.

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Speaker 4: Couldn't get our guests on before the event, so we

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Speaker 4: made sure he was one of the first ones after that.

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Speaker 5: So anyways, just a shout out.

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Speaker 3: To so let's go ahead and bring in our guest.

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Speaker 3: Colby Carino joined the show.

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Speaker 1: The guys, I really like your shirt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know in the universe. Yeah, I put it

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Speaker 5: out there.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to look as good as us,

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Speaker 2: you can go to the National Wrestling Lines dot Com

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Speaker 2: slash shop and you can get one for yourself too.

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Speaker 1: Boom.

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Speaker 4: So let me let me tell everyone, so I bought

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Speaker 4: this shirt, a Crocket cup shirt an NW a hoodie

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Speaker 4: and the Crockett Cup pen and program at the event.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I spent so.

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Speaker 5: Much money on merch over the weekend. So but I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm decked out for a while.

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Speaker 3: So for sure, So I'm going to kind of go

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Speaker 3: back before we jump into anything. The first time that

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Speaker 3: I ever saw Colby Carino at a live wrestling event,

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Speaker 3: it was in Nashville Marathon Music Works. It was what

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Speaker 3: was it you and the Ugly Duck Leagues wrestling? Yes,

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Speaker 3: and I can't remember who you wrestled. Maybe maybe was

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Speaker 3: that the Tracy Smothers match.

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Speaker 1: I think no, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a six manut tag. Chip Day was involved,

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Speaker 2: I don't remember. I remember Tracy's mothers Russell Casey Nabarro

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Speaker 2: that night.

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Speaker 3: I think that's right because I remember following along and

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about this also in the interview. I remember

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Speaker 3: following along with with with them, and you had a

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Speaker 3: very long storyline, you and homicide, and of course that

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Speaker 3: little bit. But uh, you know, let's let's talk about

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Speaker 3: Crocket Cup. I mean, we we on the show, had

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Speaker 3: you picked as our favorite to win the Junior Heavyweight Championship.

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Speaker 3: Of course, unfortunately didn't go the way that we thought.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing is, you weren't on our show

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Speaker 3: last week, and everybody that's calm on the show has

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Speaker 3: gone on to win a title. So now that you're

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 1: The first night of the Crocket Cup, so I couldn't

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Speaker 3: So so now you're gonna go on to win the

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Speaker 3: while bringing back a classic NWA title in the process,

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Speaker 3: and did you get a chance to see the belt

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Speaker 3: it when they posted it on social Oh no, I got.

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Speaker 1: To see it's just what everyone else did.

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Speaker 2: And it just so happened that the gear I had

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is perfect, right, And then

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Speaker 2: Pumpid yeah, but the tournament experience was great. I love tournaments,

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Speaker 2: and it's just like I feel like on the independance

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Speaker 2: being able to like participate Wolf one, especially with like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, yeah, and I know, I know Darius Lockhart

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Speaker 4: But yeah, going back to uh, you know, unfortunately Homicide

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Speaker 4: long history together. What was it like, you know, facing

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Speaker 2: And go to the finals, like he won that Galtlet

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Speaker 1: A man that like that.

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Speaker 2: This is like it hurt my father so bad, like

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Speaker 1: But maybe a Crock Cup just wasn't that night.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but it's gonna happen. I mean, you're on

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Speaker 3: it's in our past. We're not gonna look at the

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Speaker 3: outcome of the match over the weekend. What is What's

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Speaker 3: what's your plans now in the NWA.

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Speaker 1: Oh, my plans haven't changed. I'm still going after that

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Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all know this, but when I

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Speaker 2: There's so many people on that list that like, I

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Speaker 4: We we've talked to Rocky Romero a few times and

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Speaker 4: he just had nothing but respect and glowing thing to

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Speaker 4: to come come back. We're big belt guys, and we

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Speaker 4: love the way it's designed and yeah, it's just so simple.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's important.

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Speaker 2: I love the the the initials for the Ken Fendlson

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Speaker 2: and and Buddy Rogers and even everyone's like, oh, why

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Speaker 2: it's because he's never won the junior title, but like

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Speaker 2: he that the world title variation that.

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Speaker 1: That it's modeled after was like that was Buddy's title.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So for for those that have maybe you know

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Speaker 4: they're both nights. How did you, you know, kind of

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Speaker 4: get lined up with the fixers, Like how did they

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Speaker 1: Uh, I've known Wrecking Ball for quite a bit of years.

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Speaker 2: I'm going back to Catalyst Ter wrestling them, like we

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Speaker 1: I've known him.

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Speaker 2: He comes from the northeast Pennsylvania, he's from Connecticut, so

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Speaker 1: And like it felt like for a while I was just.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's that's a good pairing.

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Speaker 3: And you know, maybe maybe NWA could throw out and

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Speaker 3: showed up on the videos because it was you and

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Speaker 3: George South that had that match. Correct, oh yes, And

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Speaker 3: oh shit, it's Kobe And I was like, I don't

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Speaker 3: think they can use that now. But what was it

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Speaker 3: like when when you were kind of in that discussion

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Speaker 3: because you had just came from Capitol Championship Wrestling and

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Speaker 3: now you're in NWA. What was that those conversations like,

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Speaker 3: because I mean, you have the heritage and your family

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Like the conversations weren't actually very long.

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Speaker 2: It was just like would you like to come to

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Speaker 2: Wrestling Alliance. And then they told me I'd be wrestling

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Speaker 2: George South and I was just about that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, just go out there and do what

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Speaker 5: Yeah, didn't take much convincing.

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Speaker 2: I've always wanted to win an NWA title, Like it's

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I'm happy because I feel like there's so

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Speaker 4: And when you when you do get that junior heavyweight title,

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Speaker 2: I If I'm a champion, I remember want to defend

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Speaker 5: Yeah everywhere. Well that's what we like to hear.

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Speaker 1: It's a I think it's a mixture both.

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Speaker 2: It helps in the sense that, like a lot of

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a surprise that when when someone's comfortable,

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Speaker 2: Like, when you're comfortable and you're having fun, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: because you don't you don't want to just be someone's kid.

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Speaker 1: You don't you want you want to be your own man,

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Speaker 2: You can't just it's like, yeah, my dad was great

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't want people to focus on him

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Speaker 5: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I kind of want to ask this

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Speaker 1: I've been gunning for Cody for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like it's obvious to anybody that

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Speaker 1: It's just the right place, right.

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Speaker 5: Time, waiting waiting to unfollow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, ah, for sure, for sure. And you know, speaking

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Speaker 3: do you see yourself going after that title at some point?

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Speaker 3: I know you want the Junior heavyweight championship, but do

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Speaker 2: I feel like any wrestler would be a liar if

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Speaker 2: You got it, You can't put it your way up,

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Speaker 2: but that the NWA World's Championship is one of the

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Speaker 1: And just, oh man, there's there's so much history.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean you have you know, arguably the hottest free

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Speaker 5: To the NBA, but there may be other things going on.

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Speaker 5: What does the rest of twenty twenty two look like

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Speaker 5: for you?

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Speaker 1: Oh man?

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Speaker 3: Is it?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: That's what we can announced that there's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: Because that.

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Speaker 2: Did have to wait to get him on till after

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Speaker 3: The thing though, we this we've had this happened before

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Speaker 2: Well, I guess if you do it like two days

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Speaker 4: So mate, yeah, that's maybe maybe we just play mind

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a doubt.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, forgot to do well.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to We don't want to take up

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Speaker 1: Uh? I'm probably most active on Twitter they at.

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Speaker 2: Kolbe Kreno, but you can also follow me on Instagram

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Speaker 2: while I'm Kobe dot corino because some little girl stole

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Speaker 2: And you can go to my merch site, which is

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Speaker 2: Colby Crino dot Big cartail dot com. If you want

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Speaker 3: Shop there it is get your merch right now again, Colby,

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Speaker 3: it's been on to have you on the show. Definitely

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Speaker 3: we find out from Kyle, when you are, you know,

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Speaker 3: So then you have the double shot of winning the

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Speaker 5: To show up.

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Speaker 1: You just told lost the teitles after no.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 3: We have you on once you win it. This was

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Speaker 1: At some point I'll probably defending that week.

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Speaker 3: Well we'll scrub that then. So it's fun. So we

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Speaker 3: So there's that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, once you win the belt, you go to come

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Speaker 1: Yeah, skeptical.

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Speaker 4: Now we'll be like, hey, do you want to go

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Speaker 3: We hit up Crimson. This is another thing, by the way,

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Speaker 3: We were supposed to have him in studio to come

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Speaker 3: in ghosted us. Now that he's a big boy. Now

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Speaker 2: You have to send me the statistics and I'll look

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Speaker 5: Yeah, talk to the fixers, get a game plan.

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Speaker 2: Just maybe I'll have to have them on here just

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Speaker 2: in case, like so they could lose, just in case.

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Speaker 5: For there you go, there, there you go.

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Speaker 3: That way that works well, Kobe. We don't want to

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Speaker 3: take up too much of time. We're having a blast

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Speaker 3: talking with you and look forward to seeing more work

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Speaker 3: that you're doing with the NWA.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for having me on.

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