1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: Here we go, ready to roll, and it's a Wednesday. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: We're live in Stowey, Chicago. It's the Herd wherever you 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 1: may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: us part of your day. Former Steeler great tenure a 14 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: decade with the Steelers. Jerome bettis next hour. So I 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: was thinking about the Pittsburgh Steelers job opening last hour 16 00:00:54,680 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: of our show. Mike Tomlin stepped down. And there's a 17 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: lot of things. They don't have a head coach, a 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: quarterback for the future. The defense is old, the defense 19 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: is expensive, their money's on the wrong side of the ball. 20 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: But what the Ravens and the Steelers have that the 21 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: other seven job openings and seven franchises don't. Ravens and 22 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers don't fire coaches. Harbaugh got eighteen years, Tomlin 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: got nineteen years, and so you could go to a 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski in Pittsburgh and say, listen, we're gonna bought 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: him out. Our scouting department doesn't like Ty Simpson until 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: the third round. Second round, You're gonna win three games, 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: and Stefanski knows I'm not gonna get fired. In Pittsburgh, 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: they don't fire coaches. Tomlin in the end walked away, 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: and that's at the core of what the Steelers are 30 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: really uncomfortable with, and they need to get over it. 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: This no losing seasons thing. Being awful got the Patriots. 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: Drake May being awful got the Bears. Caleb Williams. You 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: know what, being mid got the Steelers, Kenny Pickett. Folks, 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: the richest people in the world carry debt to acquire assets. 35 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: To get wealthy, you got to carry debt, Okay, Mark 36 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: Zuckerberg has mortgages to a dozen homes. He could own 37 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: every city block in Silicon Valley. He takes out mortgages. 38 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: You've got If you want to get wealthy in the NFL, 39 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: you got to be able to take a big swing 40 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: and not worry about having the cleanest books for a year. 41 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: And my takeaway, you got an old roster, expensive, you 42 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback, you don't have a coach. The 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: one thing and the one box. The Steelers check his stability. 44 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: You're great at stability, but so is Baltimore and they 45 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: have Lamar Jackson. So how do you get the best 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: candidate because Baltimore's got Lamar, You got nothing. And the 47 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: way to do it is you go to us defans 48 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: and say you can be terrible next year and we're 49 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: not gonna fire you. We think next year we can 50 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: get archs manning and win three games, load your roster up, 51 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: win three or four games. I think you have to 52 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: have the conversation in Pittsburgh, and it gets very uncomfortable 53 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: for people in Pittsburgh of just resetting the franchise, going 54 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: the opposite of Tomlin. We're gonna go a young offensive 55 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: coach and we're gonna bought him out because you know 56 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: what quicksand is in the NBA, in the NFL, the eighteenth, 57 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: the twentieth pick. That's where pittsburghs feels like they're at 58 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: the twentieth pick. The only way you want to be 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: at the twentieth pick. Is if you have Josh Allen 60 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: and you can't get up. Go look at Tomlin seven quarterbacks. 61 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Where's the one where a Hoysted trophies Big Ben. The 62 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: rest of it's guys. Now, Aaron Rodgers at thirty two 63 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: wasn't just a guy. He was the guy. Maybe, But 64 00:03:54,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: go look at the Tomlin era. Seven straight seasons, seven 65 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: straight seasons, bottom ten in offensive spending. It's time you 66 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: can respect somebody like Mike Tomlin and think it's time 67 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: to do the opposite of Mike Tomlin offensive coach money 68 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: all on offense, not old and experienced on defense, young 69 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: and cheap and aggressive. Because the quarterbacks in the AFC 70 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: now Mahomes and Allen and Lamar and Burrow and Herbert 71 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: and bow Nicks and Trevor Lawrence and CJ. Stroud here 72 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: they come waves of it. Justin Herbert can win a 73 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: playoff game. So you got to do the Zuckerberg. Take 74 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: on some debt for a year, get uncomfortable trying to 75 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: salvage next season. You've been doing that for years, seven 76 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: straight years, bottom ten and offensive spending. I can respect 77 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: the hell out of Mike Tomlin, but want to do 78 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: the opposite going forward. To Mike Tomlin, I want a 79 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: very current, very young offensive coach who spends all his 80 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: money on a because I just feel like, year after 81 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: year after year, this team's not viable. This team is 82 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: not a viable franchise. It's not insulting. If I buy 83 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: your house and think your house is charming, I just 84 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: want to redo it in my style and the style 85 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has to acquire with a little debt, be awful 86 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: next year, and start over. The athletics Robert May says 87 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: it may not take very long to look completely different. 88 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: They have seven picks in the top four rounds this 89 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 3: year and five picks in the top one hundred already. 90 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: On offense, they have one of the youngest offensive lines 91 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 3: in the league. And on defense, there are a lot 92 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 3: of guys that I do not think will be back 93 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: next year if you are kind of transitioning to a 94 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: different version of the team. 95 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: They were one of the oldest teams in the NFL. 96 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: I expect them when we wake up in the middle 97 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 3: of next season and you look at the ages of 98 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 3: these rosters, to be. 99 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: One of the youngest teams in the NFL. Aaron Rodgers 100 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: now had a good year. I thought he should be 101 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: called comeback Player of the Year. I stand by that 102 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: it's probably over for him in Pittsburgh. I would guess 103 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: unless the Vikings call and they talked about it this week, 104 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: they'd like competition for JJ McCarthy, Aaron Rodgers would take 105 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: that job and win that job. In my opinion, where 106 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: do we stand on Aaron Rodgers because he may retire, 107 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: what do we think of him? And the way I 108 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: look at Aaron Rodgers is you can't tell the story 109 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: of the NFL without Aaron Rodgers. In any profession, we 110 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: can argue best, worst mid you can't argue mattered, great talent, little, prickly, unbelievable, 111 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: first ballot Hall of Fame. I remember fifteen years ago 112 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: when everybody was treating him like Archbishop Aaron. Everybody in 113 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: the media worshiped him, even insisting he was better than Brady, 114 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: and I kept saying bad body language. Sometimes he's a 115 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: sometimes he's a Baylor, He's passive, aggressive. I think he's 116 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: really really talented. I don't think he's going to end 117 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 1: up being close to like a Manninger a Brady in 118 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: the trophy category. And I stand by that I said 119 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: at fifteen years ago ah there's things I don't love, 120 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: love his talent, leadership, forgetting a bad interception and moving on. 121 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: Thought he was a little safe in big games, whatever, 122 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: But even on draft night, Aaron created drama in his profession. 123 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: He mattered. And let's face it, very few quarterbacks, most 124 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the end, leave it up to interpretation. Montana 125 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: didn't four rings, Brady didn't seven rings. But most quarterbacks 126 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: are closer. The great ones are closer to Like Marino Man, 127 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: he was great. I can't believe he didn't win a 128 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl. Farvn Rogers Man, they were great, they only 129 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: won one. Very few quarterbacks Mahomes has now become one 130 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: Brady Montana. They don't leave anything on the cutting room floor. 131 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: They get every trophy they get close to. But I 132 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: look at Aaron as one of those fifteen guys all 133 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: time that you can't write the story of the NFL 134 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: without that quarterback. It doesn't matter if you have all 135 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: the hardware like Spielberg, or you have less hardware one 136 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 1: oscar like Scorsese. You can't argue toe to toe, completely 137 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: inarguably transformative. And that's why I look at Aaron the 138 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: rest of it. Almost all quarterbacks we can debate third best, 139 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: eighth best, ninth best, sixteenth best. Aaron mattered. You can't 140 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: write the story of the league without him. Who cares? 141 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: If he's prickly pushback on the media and whatever I mean, 142 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: Brady Mahomes probably manning Montana. The titles they should have won, 143 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: they won the years they were great, they hoisted something, 144 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: even the other fifteen great quarterbacks of all time. It's interpretation. 145 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Here's Aaron Monday about his future. 146 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 4: And I'm not going to make any emotional decisions. Disappointed, 147 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 4: you know, obviously in such a fun. 148 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: Year way again, you wanted to be here. 149 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 4: I'm not going to talk about that. 150 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 5: Eric Hunt, do you approach just what you decide to 151 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 5: do next? 152 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: Just get away and then then have the right conversations. 153 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: Listen, I had said before Pittsburgh I would take the 154 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: vikings gig or retired. I think Aaron made the most 155 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: of it. I think he's a little trickly. What apps 156 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: who cares? In your industry, in your space? Do you matter? 157 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: That's indisputable, that's inarguable. Even the years he didn't start. 158 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Go read the Jeff Pearlman book Gunslinger. In that building, 159 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: he was poking Brett fav in the Ribs Draft Night drama. 160 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: He wasn't even a packer officially yet had never gone 161 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: a uniform, and we were talking about him and that 162 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: says a lot. J Mac Mike Tomlin's walking away. We 163 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: got nine openings. That is that is so crazy. Now 164 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: there's a sense there aren't nine good candidates. I'm gonna 165 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: push back on that. We also will present a Super 166 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: Bowl bubble today of the eight remaining teams, four in, 167 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: four out and the outs. There'll be some dispute on that, 168 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: but four in four out, we'll talk about that. Yeah. 169 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 6: Wow, So you think maybe there are some good candidates, 170 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 6: because that's a bit of a surprise to me when 171 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 6: I hear some of these guys who are interviewing Colin 172 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 6: like some of these swoof. 173 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Well, just because just because you're interviewing doesn't mean you're 174 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: a candidate. It's fair. I mean, you know, these owners 175 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: aren't going to interview one two people. They want to 176 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: interview eight and so a lot of times, and this 177 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: is very clear, the way that works with agents is 178 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: a lot of time I'm an agent will get somebody 179 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: an interview knowing he's not going to be a head 180 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: coaching job, but he wants him to get the interview 181 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: with the owner to impress him. So if that guy 182 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: gets fired. So a lot of the people interviewing for 183 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: jobs are not truly head coaching candidates, but the agents 184 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: are getting of interviews, so they just you know, like 185 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: McVeigh was rare his first year of interviewing, he got 186 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: the Rams job. Generally there's a McVeigh out there. Mike 187 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: McDonald's another guy. The minute we talked about him as 188 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: a head coach, he walked into Seattle's building. John Snyder's like, 189 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: don't let him leave. 190 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 5: The other thing. 191 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right, because as soon as the agent gets 192 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 6: you in for an interview, what happens next right to 193 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 6: the media. 194 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 5: Everybody fans it out. 195 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 6: Joe Smith interviewed with the Patriots and next thing you know, 196 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 6: oh Joe Smith. He's in high demand. So you create 197 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 6: this artificial market that maybe really isn't there. But I 198 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 6: do think Mike McDaniel is soaring up the charts. If 199 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 6: I don't know, if you've following some of this closely, 200 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 6: he's he might be like a top three or four 201 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 6: guy on the market right now. Colin, I know you 202 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 6: have a big affinity for Mike McDaniel. 203 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: We'll see he is one of the people being talked about. 204 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 205 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: in noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 206 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Fox Sports Radio is 207 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: taking over YouTube and you can be a part of it. 208 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 7: Just go to YouTube and search Fox Sports Radio, hit 209 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 7: that subscribe button and smash that notification bell and catch 210 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 7: all the videos from your favorite shows, Tu Pro's and 211 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 7: a Cup of Joe, Dan Patrick, Colin Cowherd, Doug Gottlieb 212 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,719 Speaker 7: Cavino and Rich The Odd Couple with Rob Parker and 213 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 7: Kelvin Washington, The Jason Smith Show with Mike. 214 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: Harmis, and The Ben Maller Show. Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. Subscribe, 215 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: hit that thumbs up icon and comment away. Albert Breer 216 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,319 Speaker 1: Top of the Hour nine Job Openings Baltimore with Lamar Jackson. 217 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: Great ownership probably number one, I think in my opinion. 218 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: The New York Giants are number two, Steeler's three, Atlanta four. 219 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna get Fernando Mendoza Raiders. That's pretty good. Here's 220 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: the thing with Mike Tomlin, He's an incredibly prideful guy. 221 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: Once those fire Tomlin chants came down from the rafters, 222 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: he's probably done. He made up his mind. People make 223 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: up their mind long before they do things. I think 224 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: he made up his mind several weeks ago. I think 225 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: he could do television and be great. He's certainly great 226 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: at the podium. He's the best I've ever heard. Everything's 227 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: a nine second SoundBite. He'd be great. But he's not 228 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: a TV guy. He reminds me of Mike Vrabel. Vrabel 229 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: could do TV. He's not a TV guy. It's like 230 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: I always said, park cities of you. It's in Utah. 231 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: It's not really of Utah. It's a party town, Austin, Texas. 232 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: It's in Texas. It's not of Texas. It's way left. 233 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin could do TV, and so could Rabel. They're 234 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: not of TV. It's not their thing. Sean Payton I 235 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: worked with him for a year at Fox. He was 236 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: going back to coaching. So there's a lot of times 237 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: I've been critical of Tomlin. But leadership iq EQ, motivator, 238 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: culture creator, he's great. He's great. I think he needs 239 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: to modernize a little bit. I would I would give 240 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: you this as an example, you know, Tomlin's got an 241 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 1: iPhone like the rest of us, and it keeps asking 242 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: him to install now the new software, and he's for 243 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: the last seven years pushed remind me later, it's time 244 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: to install now, take a year off, modernize, reflect. His 245 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: coaching tree is a cactus. He didn't have anybody since 246 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians. He's had four oz c's, none have done anything. Dude, 247 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: go to a mixer, wear a name tag, meet some 248 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: offensive young coaches, modernize, stay current, leadership, smarts, toughness, alpha, 249 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: culture creator and on TV for a year. All great, 250 00:14:54,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: but he does feel like he's got to push install now, 251 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: remind me later. On offense, I really think he needs 252 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: to modernize. Robert Mays of The Athletic talked about this yesterday. 253 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: If I'm Mike Tomlin, I want to take a step 254 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: back and for a year just visit with people around 255 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: the league. Talk to people who should I be seeking out? 256 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: What should my offense look like? Who are the people 257 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 3: that I should build my staff with. Just take yourself 258 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: out of that small kind of insulated world when you're 259 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 3: the head coach and your head is down all the time, 260 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 3: and just think about how you need to build things 261 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: moving forward for you to be successful, because I think 262 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: if he surrounds himself with the right ideas, he is 263 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 3: such a good coach and a good motivator that that 264 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 3: overall construction and that overall model that would be appealing 265 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: to me if I were an owner trying to fill 266 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 3: one of these jobs. 267 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: Like Nick Saban was a defensive coach, but he hired 268 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, Jim Mcelwaine, Doug Nussmeyer, Lane Kiffen Sark. I mean, 269 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: he was really good at finding offensive coaches, really good, 270 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: not all defensive guys. Now, Belichick had to keep going 271 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: back to Josh McDaniels. The minute he was left to 272 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: his own devices, he moved Matt Patricia to an OC. Okay, 273 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: So Tomlin maybe one of those defensive guys like Vrabel. 274 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: Vrabel's got Josh McDaniel. He gets it. Some of these 275 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: defensive guys are really good finding offensive guys. Some of 276 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: the old school guys are not. So I don't know 277 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: what Tomlin is, but I feel like a year reflect 278 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: do TV, make some money, have some fun, he would be. 279 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not going to give away any inside 280 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: stuff that I am aware of currently, but Tomlin's gonna 281 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: get jobs multiple I think you put him in a studio, 282 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: I think he'd be a home run. I think he'd 283 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: be just major energy. I mean, I honestly am rooting 284 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: for him to go to Fox because I think it'd 285 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: be a great watch. And that way, if he goes 286 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: to Fox, which has more NFC games than AFC games, 287 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: he may not have to criticize contemporaries he coached against 288 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: a lot. He can go over and talk about the 289 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: Niners and the Eagles and the Rams who didn't have 290 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: to face as much. He didn't want to be critical 291 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: of the guys on his side of the ledger. But 292 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: I'm selfishly I would love if he was a Fox guy. 293 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: I think he's going to be so good. But he 294 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: feels very much like Vrabel to me. Could do TV, 295 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: but not a TV guy. That's not his DNA. He 296 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: has referred to television as the dark side a couple 297 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: times in his career. Jmack with the news, No no turns. 298 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line. 299 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 6: News, all right, Colin, I got a surprise for you 300 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:47,920 Speaker 6: to start Herdline, and that is one Brock Perty. A 301 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 6: big game from Perty on Sunday against the Eagles, another 302 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 6: fourth quarter comeback in the playoffs for Brouck Perty Colin. 303 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 5: Wouldn't you know it? 304 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 6: He is now five and one in his career in 305 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 6: the playoffs. Yes, Colin, that's more wins than Lamar Jackson 306 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: and Cam Newton in the postseason. 307 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 5: I know Cam Newton's not gonna take that well. 308 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 6: Also, his five wins tied Jared Goff, Rivers and Burrow 309 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 6: You third all time, sorry in forty nine ers playoff 310 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 6: history in terms of wins, go ahead. 311 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about Perty, whereas Lamar Jackson, 312 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: there are times he visually looks tight in the playoffs. 313 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: I feel like Brock Pretty Week two, Brock Pretty Week eleven, 314 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: Brock Pretty playoffs, I get the same guy. He's not 315 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: affected by the scenario like I always feel with Brock Purty. 316 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: He's always been a guy that's gonna let it rip. 317 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: He's gonna have some ugly picks. They all stick to Darnold. 318 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: They don't stick to Pretty because party's had more playoff success. 319 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: But Brock will let it rip. He's not a guy. 320 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: One of my favorite qualities, in fact, my favorite quality. 321 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: I've told this story about Andrew Luck when he was 322 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: at Stanford. I went to the coliseum. I'm sitting there, 323 00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: pretty good seats US season a shootout with Andrew looking 324 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Stanford and luck is unbelievable. And then he fills a 325 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: pick six. It is an awful pick six to get 326 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,159 Speaker 1: the Trojans back into it. I remember that, and he smiles. 327 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: He puts his hand on his helmet. He's like, oh, 328 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 1: stupid goes out. He's slinging the ball down the field. 329 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: A huge part of brock Pretty's success is he's not affected. 330 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,439 Speaker 1: I never watched Purty and think, oh, he's tight. He 331 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: just you know, it could be good parenting, it could 332 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: be confidence, whatever it is. The kid likes to let 333 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: it rip. That's one of the Donald quotes. Donald's always like, 334 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: hey man, you do your prep, you let it rip. 335 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: And that's what I totally respect about Brock. 336 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 5: So it's interesting. A lot of people are going to say, well. 337 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 6: Wait a second, Jay, you're forgetting Brock had a second 338 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 6: loss against the Eagles. That's not technically a loss. Remember 339 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 6: he got injured with the shoulder in the first quarter. 340 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 6: That doesn't count as a loss on your ledger. The 341 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 6: one loss is the Super Bowl. Yeah, and he didn't 342 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 6: lose that he drove them down the field in overtime 343 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 6: for points. I mean, at some point we got to 344 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 6: start giving brock Pertty his flowers. I know everybody loves 345 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 6: Dak Prescott, and Dak is a top five tep ten. 346 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: I think got two playoff wins. He hasn't done much. 347 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: Rock Purty is consistently praised. You're you're sensitive to it. 348 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: Brock Purty is considered exactly where he should be considered. 349 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: A gamer that gets banged up. He's not a Josh 350 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: Allen Talon No, but he's gonna win playoff games. I 351 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: think he is appropriately discussed. I don't think everybody thinks 352 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: he's way up here, but everybody like if you told 353 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: me him or Jalen Hurtz, I would take brock Purdy. 354 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: He's better from the pub. 355 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 5: Oh okay. 356 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: In terms of a pocket passer with mobility, party's a 357 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: good player. 358 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 8: Okay. 359 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: Can I ask you a couple more because you like 360 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: this game? Rock Purty or Jordan Love. Jordan Love is 361 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: a bigger, stronger quarterback. Both get hurt more than I'd like. 362 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: But I think he's a bigger, taller guy with a 363 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: little better arm. I think they're both talented, but you know, 364 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: I like traits. I'm loyal to size, I'm loyal to 365 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: arm I'm loyal to mobility. I would take love over 366 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: Brock Purty, rock Perty or Bonnicks. Bonicks doesn't get hurt 367 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: like ever, like ever, He's on a very team friendly 368 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: deal for the next several years, and he's a tremendous 369 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: fourth quarter quarterback. 370 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 5: And because I have to do it, Jared Goff or Brockberdy. 371 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: Jared Goff is a better pocket quarterback, but again, doesn't 372 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: ago Jared. If Jared Goff doesn't get hurt, I mean 373 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: Bonicks and Jared Goff, both guys from the PAC twelve 374 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: that got you know, tossed around a lot of starts 375 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: every Sunday. They're ready to play. 376 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: Now listen, I don't expect him to go to Seattle 377 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 5: and win. 378 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 6: That lines up to seven and a half in some 379 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: places seven where we have Colin. If he does pull 380 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 6: this off as a big underdog, oh, Monday is going 381 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 6: to be fun. Yeah, just filing that one away. All right, 382 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 6: Let's move to the Rams. They are out here in 383 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 6: warm southern California seventy eight degrees yesterday, Colin, it'll be 384 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 6: seventy nine today. It's lovely, but they're playing in rigid 385 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 6: temps Sunday in Chicago. They're calling for a high of 386 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 6: twenty one with a low of eight colin eight degrees. 387 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 6: That's insanity. Matt Stafford, he says he don't care about 388 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 6: no elements. 389 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 8: As far as the wind goes. You're right, it is 390 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 8: always winny in Chicago. I played, you know, a handful 391 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 8: of games there throughout the years. The good thing for 392 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 8: us is it was windy this past week in Carolina. 393 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 8: And when it goes to cold weather. We played the 394 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 8: Jets last year and what was I think it was 395 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 8: like twelve degrees, you know at kickoff, and you just 396 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 8: adjust to whatever the game, you know, whatever the weather 397 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,399 Speaker 8: allows you to do. And I think if it's just 398 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 8: cold with a little bit of win, we go play. 399 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: You know. 400 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 8: I love that kind of stuff. I mean, that's that's 401 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 8: playoff football, right, cold weather in Chicago, windy day. There's 402 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 8: nothing better than that in my mind. So I'm excited 403 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 8: for it. 404 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. There's never been a warm weather dynasty. 405 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: If you can't if you can't handle twenty seven degrees, 406 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: you're not built for this stuff. I mean I Caleb 407 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: Williams in the fourth quarter. Caleb played at USC Oklahoma. 408 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: He looked fine to me in the fourth quarter. If 409 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: you've got a strong arm, the issue with cold weather 410 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: is armstrength, two struggles and wind. Stafford doesn't, Caleb doesn't. 411 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: Some would argue Lamar's got an average arm. You know 412 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: who doesn't, Josh Allen Mahomes. So if your arm is strong, 413 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: bad weather Brady. I thought Brady was the best cold 414 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 1: weather crappy weather thrower I've ever sit because of his 415 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: hip torque Brady was an And did Brady have the 416 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: biggest arm in the league. No, he was a great 417 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: cold weather quarterback. 418 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 419 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 5: A lot of cold weather guys on the Rams. 420 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 6: I mean Stafford played for years in that division, outdoor 421 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 6: games in Green Bay, Chicago. DeVante Adams played for years 422 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 6: in Green Bay. Kyron Williams went to Notre Dame playing 423 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 6: in the Midwest. I don't I think the cold is 424 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 6: a little bit of an overblown narrative here and Colin, 425 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 6: I haven't officially fired on this game, but I think 426 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 6: I'm on the rams here. I know the Bears have 427 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 6: delivered to charm life. But the more you look at 428 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 6: the number the same. 429 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: I'm the same. I think. I really when you lose 430 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: Edwards the linebacker, that really makes it because by the 431 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 1: way that linebacker, with those Ram tight ends and that 432 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: Ram run game, you can live with a backup left tackle. Again, 433 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: if you speed up getting rid of the ball to 434 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: your tight ends, you can speed things up. But I'd 435 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: see the Bears defense having a lot of trouble stopping 436 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: Ram drives. I think the Rams, even if they don't score, 437 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: are gonna get field goals and are gonna win field 438 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: possession for a big chunk of this game. And that's 439 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: why I like the Rams. 440 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, total agreement, Colin. Let's go. 441 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 6: Final story. One of your favorites, Sean Payton. He was 442 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 6: fun when he was working here. Man, that guy has 443 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 6: stories for days. Well, he's got a super Bowl team 444 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 6: on his hands right now. They're preparing for the game 445 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 6: against Josh Allen. Obviously Denver had to buy and Sean 446 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 6: says he wants to see his offense be more aggressive 447 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 6: when it needs to be do I. 448 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 9: Think he needs to be more aggressive going down to 449 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 9: the field, going downfield in the playoffs. A lot of 450 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 9: that would be based on who we're playing. We want 451 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 9: to be aggressive. We obviously want to, you know, and 452 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 9: we will take our shots, but a lot of it 453 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 9: like tell me the opponent and then then it's like, right, 454 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 9: how's that got to be done? You know? Are they 455 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 9: an eyes in team or are they a man team? 456 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 9: And we'll definitely stretch the ball down the field. We 457 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 9: feel like we've got some guys that can go down 458 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 9: and get it. 459 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you play Houston, you can't be as aggressive 460 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: because of their pass rush. If you play the Bills, 461 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: you can be more aggressive. They don't have the pass rush. 462 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: So again, it's dictated on your game plan is largely 463 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: dictated on who are you playing. If you have a 464 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: the Bears have a backup left tackle, They're gonna want 465 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams to get rid of the ball quickly. Now, 466 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: I guarantee it. That's part of Ben Johnson's game plan. 467 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: We're not sitting back in the pocket. They've got They've 468 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: got young and Verse coming on the edges. They got 469 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: Kobe Turner poon it forward in the middle. It'll by 470 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: the way, we're missing our left tackle. Like you can 471 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: tell what you're going to do going into it. Chicago, 472 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be one of those 473 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: deep ball games. You're gonna want to get that thing 474 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: out two and a half three seconds, get it out 475 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: of Caleb's hands, because I do think for pass protection 476 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 1: for the Bears could be challenged. 477 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I do wonder this Bill's defense was kind of 478 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 6: sort of solid against Trevor Lawrence, like Trevor Lawrence was 479 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 6: good for Davius White with a crazy turn back to 480 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 6: clock game. It's like, well, where did that guy come from? 481 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 6: I just don't know if Buffalo can duplicate that in 482 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 6: back to back weeks. And I do think the Rest 483 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 6: is probably underrated. Right, you get a whole week off. 484 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 6: I know the Rest versus Rust, but I think Denver's 485 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 6: gonna be ready. 486 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 5: I I'm I don't know, Colin. I wait for your 487 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 5: blazon four on Friday on this. 488 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 3: One, right. 489 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: Jmack with the news. 490 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 491 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: herd line. 492 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 6: It is. 493 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: It is crazy that there's nine job openings. The average 494 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: has been like six or seven, it seems like forever. 495 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 1: So you start asking yourself, are there are there nine 496 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: good candidates? I think it's a better candidate year suddenly 497 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: than people think it is. So let's talk about very 498 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: good candidates, people that win double digit games and have 499 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: proven this time and time again. I think there are 500 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 1: four candidates that I would put in the good candidate 501 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: if they want to coach list, and I think we 502 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: can put it up on the screen. I think John Harbaugh, 503 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, Mike Tomlin, and Mike McCarthy. Those are very 504 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: good candidates. Those are proven head coach of the year, 505 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: double digit wins, can win a playoff game. I think 506 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: Robert Sala, Brian Floores, and Brian Dabele absolutely I would 507 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: be comfortable giving them a second chance. I think, you know, 508 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: Daboll got Daniel Jones a playoff win. Brian Flores that 509 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: thing unraveled, but I think he's arguably the best defensive 510 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: coordinator with Jesse Mencher in the sport, and Robert Sala 511 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: could have been the assistant of the year. And the 512 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: minute the Jets fired him, they from that minute on 513 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: have circled the toilet. They were at least viable. They 514 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: were going to go to Buffalo if they won, they 515 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: were going to be tied for first. They let him go. 516 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: They've been a has Matt spill since and then I 517 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: think Jesse min er, Clint Kubiak, Jeff Hafley. Again, if 518 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: they were there and they were my best options, I'd 519 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: have no problem hiring them. My takeaway is there's two 520 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 1: candidates out there. Cliff Kingsbury is one of them. I 521 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's a head coach personality. I don't think 522 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: he is comfortable with conflict. I think in college and 523 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: pro football, as teams get loose, players have a bit 524 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: too much control. And I think he got to be 525 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: a front and center guy and be willing to deal 526 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 1: with conflict and conflict resolution. And I don't think that's 527 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Cliff's personality. I think he's a great OC. A prime example, 528 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: why is he leaving Washington. He's got a conflict with 529 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: Adam Peters and he don't want to deal with it. 530 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm out of here. Once again, 531 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: that's who he is. It's fine. Mike McDaniel Miami, I 532 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: don't think he's a head coach. I think he's a 533 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: brilliant coach. But I think he's a VP, not a president. 534 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: I think he's a VP. So again I think those 535 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: are I think those are very That's nine guys I 536 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: would hire and two guys I'd hire in a second 537 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: to be coordinator. The key in this is being decisive, 538 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: because if the New York Giants, Giants sit on their 539 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: hands and of the fifth team to hire a coach, 540 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: not only do you get the fifth best coach, it's 541 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: bread crumbs on the staff. If I was the New 542 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: York Giants, I'd make a move now. Whether it's Stefanski 543 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: or Harball, I would make a move now because you're 544 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: also going to have a better opportunity to get a 545 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: McDaniel or Cliff Kingsbury as a coordinator. So you've got 546 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: to be decisive. Here's Steve Bushatti, Raven's owner, on their 547 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: head coach opening. Where we are. 548 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 10: I could say I'm disqualifying coaches with losing records, but 549 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 10: I think you have to remember that they were the 550 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,239 Speaker 10: hottest coaches in their cycle and they got jobs, and 551 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 10: they got tough jobs, and I don't think we have 552 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 10: a tough job. We created the best opening in this cycle. 553 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 10: And so that was the one category that I didn't 554 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 10: want to ignore because the first thing you all are 555 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 10: going to say is my got he went thirty eight 556 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 10: and forty eight in his last job and they're hiring him. 557 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's fair because I do 558 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: think if you're the guy, you'll have a winning record. 559 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: The greatest example is Sean Payton. He inherited a team 560 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson didn't fit his offense, and they're still 561 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: this year paying off the Russell Wilson dead cap, and 562 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: he's made the playoffs back to back. Here with a 563 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: quarterback most of you don't like. Okay, so I don't 564 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: want to hear, but you can figure it out. There's 565 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: no excuses. There really isn't. This is why I tend 566 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: to lean offensive guy over defense guy. But it should 567 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: be noted of the eight remaining coaches, four offense, four defense, 568 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: So Baltimore is the best job. I would argue. Number 569 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: two is the Giants. That's what I would argue in 570 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: a perfect world, if I was the Giants, I'd offer 571 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: it to John Harbaught today, if I was Baltimore, if 572 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: he didn't want a losing record. That hurts Kevin Stefanski. 573 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: I think you have to contextualize Kevin Stefanski's career. He 574 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: coached for Cleveland. In my opinion, you have to qualify 575 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: certain things, not many things, but certain things. In Chicago 576 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:41,479 Speaker 1: it's the hurd. 577 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 578 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: and Noon Easter not a Empacific. 579 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,479 Speaker 5: Saturday on Fox. 580 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 6: After dethroning the defending champs, Christian McCaffrey leads the Niners 581 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 6: against Sam Darnold in the top seeded Seahawks the Divisional 582 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 6: Round Playoffs, presented by Intuit TurboTax Saturday, seven thirty Eastern, 583 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 6: four thirty Pacific on Fox. 584 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: Well Darnold against Purty. Clearly, whoever wins is the better quarterback. 585 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: What a division rams Niners Seahawks. You talk about a 586 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: power group out west. So Art Rooney spoke this morning 587 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: on Mike Tomlin after nineteen years stepping away and that 588 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: the presumption is, and I think it's a reasonable presumption, 589 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: is you know, Tomlin, if you're in a job for 590 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: nineteen years and you're on that treadmill, I think it's 591 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: great to just take a step back and reflect. Here's 592 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: Rooney on Mike's plans going forward. 593 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: Mike indicated that he did not anticipate coaching at least 594 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 4: you know, in the near future. I think he wants 595 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: to spend time with his family and do some of 596 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 4: the kinds of things he hasn't been able to do 597 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 4: for the last you know, many many years, and so 598 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 4: you know, if something like that comes up, we'll deal 599 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 4: with it when it comes up. But right now that 600 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be on his radar. 601 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 9: You know. 602 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: One of the things that's really great about the NFL, 603 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: and the Patriots are a great example. Denver is a 604 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: great example. You get the coach in the quarterback right, 605 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,959 Speaker 1: you can just go from doghouse to penthouse fast. And 606 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: that's not the way it is in the NBA. I've 607 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: never understood this. The NBA makes it hard to trade. 608 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, yeah, the salaries have to come 609 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: within and you got all these aprons. Now, it's like 610 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: hard to make trades. So if you're in the downside 611 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: of that. The NBA is so paralyzed about dynasties. Your 612 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: ratings are better with dynasties. Stop worrying about it. I mean, 613 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: the KD Steph Clay Draymond team was fascinating, the Heatles 614 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: were fascinating. Seven champs in seven years isn't fascinating. But 615 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: the NBA makes it hard to trade. Football's like trade 616 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: whoever you want. Also, in the NFL, you can cut 617 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: whoever you want. You may have to eat some salary, 618 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 1: but you can also work contracts constantly. You know, to me, 619 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: you could do two things. I would bought him out 620 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: and go get an offensive guy. Or I could also say, well, 621 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: we've got a first, a second, three threes and two fours, 622 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: give up a third and a fourth, couple six is 623 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: the following year, give up a bunch of picks and 624 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: get to like eighth in the draft and go get 625 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: Ty Simpson. If it works great, If it doesn't, go 626 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: draft another quarterback. The Steelers have three third round picks 627 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: and two fours, so you can keep a third and 628 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: a fourth and move off two thirds and a fourth 629 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: and move up and get Simpson. Give up, give up 630 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: good picks. Try it. He is viewed, I'm told, as 631 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: a late first round quarterback, But so what, that's the 632 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: one position. It's okay you can overdraft a guy. Don't 633 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: overdraft by a round. But if you overdraft by nine 634 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: to eleven spots to get your quarterback, it's fine. And 635 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: if it works great, If it doesn't, move him, and 636 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: get the guy the following year and a better quarterback draft. 637 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: There's a lot of option here for Pittsburgh like a 638 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 1: lot of good options, and or you could just say, listen, 639 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski, we don't care, don't we know you've been 640 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: losing a lot. We don't fire coaches here. You got 641 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: a first, a second, three threes, two fours. We're gonna 642 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: stack the roster. We're gonna move the old guys. On defense, 643 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: We're gonna give you a young, twitchy, athletic, inexpensive defense. 644 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: And the following year we're not gonna be very good 645 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: this year. Following year you can pick the quarterback that's 646 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: very attractive, but doing the mid stuff again, you gotta 647 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: get terrible, at least for a year to get Drake 648 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: Man Caleb Williams. If you're drafting twentieth, you get Kenny Pickett. 649 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: Like you said, wow, what about Lamar? Not a lot 650 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: of late first round Lamar Jackson's And even when he 651 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: came out there, you know you trust the Ravens because 652 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens have drafted so well for so long, especially 653 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: on their early picks. But the other story I saw 654 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: this morning is everything I have always said this. Men 655 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 1: are great at starting things, we're terrible at ending things. Wars, relationships, conflicts, 656 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: We're great starters. Maybe it's guys or hunters. We're good 657 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: at chasing stuff down, we're bad at breaking up. And 658 00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: Lebron has been this mobile guy. His career is so redeemable. 659 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: This ending in la is weird. So apparently his agent 660 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: who represents him, Rich Paul, has a podcast with Max Killerman. 661 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: Two good guys like both, and apparently it's ruffling feathers 662 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: inside the Lakers organization. They're talking about stuff they'd rather 663 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: not be privy to. So and Lebron said yesterday, Hey, 664 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: Rich Paul's comments on the podcast are not a reflection 665 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: of me. Well, Rich Paul's job as Lebron's agent is 666 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: to speak for Lebron when Lebron's not in the room. 667 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: And so Rich Paul goes on his podcast and talks 668 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: about be very careful about re signing Austin Reeves. You 669 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: may want to trade Austin Reives. 670 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 11: Here it is I love him as a Laker, but 671 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 11: if that is a situation where we get we get 672 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 11: in balanced because if you put if you put all 673 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 11: the money into just the backcourt, and then you're and 674 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 11: then you're you're kind of like your flexibility is restricted 675 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,399 Speaker 11: going forward to fill out the rest of the team. 676 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 5: Then that's kind of like. 677 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 11: Riding u uh uh. You know when you when you 678 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 11: just have the training wheels on your bike, but the 679 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 11: one training wheel is off and it kind of leans. 680 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,839 Speaker 5: That's kind of like. 681 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 1: That Lebron is distancing himself. Rich Paul doesn't speak for me. Well, 682 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: if my agent was talking about certain things publicly, he 683 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: kind of probably would have passed it by me first, 684 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: you think maybe not. The question now is are the 685 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: Lakers becoming more spectacle than spectacular? So here's the thing 686 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 1: about Lebron. His mobility has been great for titles, viability, earnings, relevance, 687 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,879 Speaker 1: but it has not endeared him. I mean, the guy 688 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 1: bailed on Ohio twice and he's from there. It's not 689 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: endeared him like a Jeter or a Magic or a Kobe. 690 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 1: Like the Dodgers, there's made men, kershaw kofax made men right. 691 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman's just a great Dodger. Mooky Beck's a great Dodger. 692 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: That's kind of Lebron. So he's not. He's not as 693 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: popular as Magic or Kobe. Now, Shaq moved around, but 694 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: his personality made him beloved. So Lebron's got a no 695 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 1: trade clause. But I always say this when anybody asks 696 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 1: me those, well, what do you think they'll do with Lebron? 697 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: It My take is, it's not what they'll do with Lebron. 698 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: It's what the fans would say if they did move 699 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: off Lebron. And you know what Laker fans would say 700 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: if they moved him at the trade deadline? What did 701 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: we get for him? You know what Laker fans would 702 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: say if he walked away at the end of the season, Oh, wow, 703 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: with all that money, we got to go get good 704 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,880 Speaker 1: young players. They wouldn't have said that with Magic. That's 705 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,840 Speaker 1: that's not when when Shack got traded and they chose 706 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: Shack over Kobe and Kobe was still a Laker, a 707 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: lot of people didn't like it. A lot of them 708 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: preferred Shack over Kobe, and they still had Kobe at 709 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: the time. So Lebron's mobility. That's the downside of mobility 710 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: is you give up loyalty. And I mean, you're you're 711 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: never going to trade Steph Curry. You wouldn't, you know, 712 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: trade Derek Jeter. I mean that just it It doesn't 713 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: even sound right. But if you moved off Lebron or 714 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 1: you just ended it, and this new Dodger group would 715 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: do that. That's how they've They've let again, They've let 716 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: Trade Turner, Corey Seeger, Cody Bellinger, Manny Machado. I mean 717 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: they let you know, Zach Grinky like like, there's a 718 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,439 Speaker 1: lot of names that wanted to be Dodgers. They could 719 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: have afforded them, and they just said no either had 720 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: them let them go, said no, not interested. I mean 721 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: that's just what the Dodgers in this group do. That's 722 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: the way to do it. Fall in like with your athletes, right, 723 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: fall in love with your kids. So I do think 724 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: the downside to Lebron's mobility. And I've tried not to 725 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: be a hypocrite because I've bounced around and that's the 726 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: way I've done it. What's home? Where's home? And I 727 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:20,239 Speaker 1: think Lebron's home is Lebron's inner circle, Maverick Carter and 728 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: his guys, Rich Paul, that's home. They're just a company 729 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: willing to move, a production company willing to move. There 730 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: is no one place. So it's I just when I'm 731 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: watching this Rich Paul stuff and the comments he's making, 732 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: it's tough because and I really believe this the future 733 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: of the Lakers is JJ Reddick and Luca and Rob Polenka. 734 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: Austin Reeves is his guy. That's going to be hard 735 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: to separate. You can get him, but you better give 736 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: us great stuff. And I do think Austin Reeves. I 737 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: think the fans love him in LA. I think he's 738 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: an excellent offensive player. I think you have to consider 739 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: that lucas not an elite defender. Austin works hard, but 740 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 1: isn't either. That has to be considered. But if you've 741 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 1: got a rim protector, a really good in a wing, 742 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: then you could keep Austin Reeves. And Austin's not a 743 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: guy that's, you know, enamored with just getting the most. 744 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 1: But I think Austin Reeves loves being a Laker, and 745 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,000 Speaker 1: I think there are benefits to playing with Luken being 746 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: a Laker. All right, good stuff, all right, Albert Breer, 747 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: we got nine coaching openings. How long are the New 748 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: York Giants gonna last? Why do not I just go 749 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: for get the get the top candidate and fill out 750 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: your staff. Hour two next