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Speaker 2: Leila is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Jay.

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Speaker 2: So let's see we can help her out. Laila, before

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Speaker 2: we talk about your dan and stuff, how long has

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Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Jay?

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Speaker 3: I think at this point it's been about two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Like it.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I think we're past the time of like somebody

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Speaker 4: getting back with you after a first date, you know.

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Speaker 3: What I mean?

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Speaker 2: Obvious ghosting? Yes, what was the last interaction you guys had.

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Speaker 3: Just like the end of the day.

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Speaker 5: So we went to Top Golf hanat shows and then I

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Speaker 5: invited him over because I lived really close to the

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Speaker 5: Top Golf, and we kind of hooked up, and then

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Speaker 5: he left in the morning, and you know, you're regularly like,

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Speaker 5: oh my god, yeah, we'll text and then I can't

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Speaker 5: wait to see you again, and then he has not

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Speaker 5: spoken to me since.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so you obviously liked him because you hooked up

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Speaker 6: with him. Tell us a little bit more about the

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Speaker 6: date to see if we can see if there's something

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Speaker 6: there that pops that gives us an idea about what definitely.

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Speaker 4: I mean the date was I think pretty great and

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Speaker 4: like pretty seamless. I mean, i feel like I've been

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Speaker 4: in a bunch of first dates that haven't gone anywhere,

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Speaker 4: so I'm just like really excited to go out with

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Speaker 4: someone I could actually talk to. And I feel like

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Speaker 4: we had such a good time and so much chemistry.

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Speaker 4: You guys, Jay is very very.

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Speaker 2: Hot, and I it's so exciting.

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Speaker 4: I honestly like couldn't believe that someone that like looks

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Speaker 4: that good is also so smart.

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Speaker 2: The date was great.

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Speaker 4: I mean I feel like, you know, he helped me

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Speaker 4: with my swing a little bit, and we talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about traveling.

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Speaker 7: He's been to all these different places.

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Speaker 2: He was just telling me about his recent trip to Spain, and.

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Speaker 8: I haven't had as much of an opportuated travel just

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Speaker 8: because I, you know, have been working and myself.

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Speaker 3: Through school and all of that.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it was. It was really awesome.

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Speaker 9: I actually think it's pretty unbelievable that he didn't call

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Speaker 9: you that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. I mean that's a fair stance to take.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how is the hookup?

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Speaker 3: It was great?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like, you know, first time they were always

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Speaker 1: like a little weird, Like it's so rare that if

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Speaker 1: you like hook up with somebody for the first time,

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Speaker 1: it's like mind blowing.

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Speaker 3: But it was so good.

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Speaker 1: Like I just felt like we were in sync, And honestly,

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Speaker 1: when he left, I was like, he's obsessed with me.

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Speaker 2: Obviously that might have not been the case.

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Speaker 6: So is there any reason why you think he may

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Speaker 6: not be hitting you back?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Maybe he just doesn't want anything serious, just kind of

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Speaker 8: an f boy, Like maybe he just your proverbial hit

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Speaker 2: Maybe the way you described to me doesn't sound like

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Speaker 2: that type of dude, right, because that would be a

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Speaker 8: We talked about each other's families, and he kind of

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Speaker 8: like gave me a I don't no, no, I feel

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Speaker 8: like we talked about stuff that you don't usually talk

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Speaker 8: about on a first date.

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Speaker 2: I guess, okay, And you have no idea why I

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Speaker 2: would be grasping at Charlott.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Maybe, like I guess, my apartment was pretty messy. I

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Speaker 8: don't know if that I mean not. It wasn't like

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Speaker 8: extraordinarily messy. I'm certainly not like the cleanest person ever.

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Speaker 2: But we have had first date follow ups or that

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Speaker 2: was a problem, so maybe maybe that is it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: some people are just a little bit more, you know,

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Speaker 2: uptight about that. All right, well, we'll play a song

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Speaker 2: come back, and then call him and see if we

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Speaker 2: can figure out why you're getting ghosted, and then also

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Speaker 2: see if we can get you another date if you

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Speaker 2: still want. When when you find out why? Okay, okay, thank you?

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, play a song, come back, and get

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Speaker 2: your first day follow up. Next it's the Duel Show.

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Speaker 2: Laila is on the phone today for a first day

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Speaker 2: follow up. She's not getting a call back from a

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Speaker 2: see if we can get him to tell us why

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Speaker 2: she's getting ghosted and maybe get her another date. But first, Lailah,

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Speaker 2: before we called Jay, refresh everybody's memory about your date.

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Speaker 10: And I went to Top Golf and we had natos

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Speaker 10: and then drinks, had an amazing time, and then we

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Speaker 10: went over to my place and huffed up and then yeah,

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Speaker 10: I mean I thought it was really amazing.

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Speaker 3: He helped me with my swing. It was very cute.

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Speaker 4: And then I heard all about his travels everywhere he

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Speaker 4: went and talked a little bit about my life too,

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Speaker 4: So I genuinely think we had an amazing confection.

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Speaker 3: And I guess I'm confused.

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Speaker 2: And the only reason I can think that he.

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Speaker 8: Maybe is not interested because my apartment was messy and

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Speaker 3: Close all over the police.

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Speaker 1: But I just I don't want him to know that

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Speaker 1: I'm not actually, like really Bessy.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll see if we can figure it out

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Speaker 2: where you. We're gonna call him right now and then

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Speaker 2: see if he'll tell us and maybe get you another

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Speaker 2: day if you still want one. Okay, you ready? Okay,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready. All right, here we go. Hello him asweak

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Speaker 2: to Jay? Please?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is Jay. Who's this Jay?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Man? How are you? My name is Jewbol.

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Speaker 2: I host a radio show. It's called the Jewbel Show.

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Speaker 2: Hi Ja, my name's Nina. I'm I also do that.

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Speaker 3: Jay.

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Speaker 2: You recently went out on a day with somebody and

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Speaker 2: they emailed us because they want to know why you're

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Speaker 2: ghosting them.

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Speaker 11: Ooh, Okay, think I have a pretty good idea who.

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Speaker 3: That might be.

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Speaker 2: You want to take a guess, go for it.

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Speaker 3: I'm bessing. I'm guessing it's it's the lovely laylah.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well that was a compliment to the lovely l

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Speaker 2: what's the deal? Oh?

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Speaker 3: All right, I guess we're doing this. Huh yep?

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Speaker 2: Can you tell us why you're ghosting her?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 11: What's the best way to say this? She's great, she's hot,

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Speaker 11: she's funny. I just don't know that she's cultured enough

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Speaker 3: For in a partner.

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Speaker 11: I don't really like I don't know how to say

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Speaker 11: this like nicely, but I need somebody that will challenge

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Speaker 11: me cerebral and I'm just not sure that she's there,

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Speaker 11: that we're at that same level mentally.

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Speaker 3: I just on a certain level.

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Speaker 2: Are you calling her dumb?

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Speaker 3: I'm not calling her dumb.

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Speaker 11: I just don't know that her and I have had

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Speaker 11: the same deep thinking. It just didn't seem like her

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Speaker 11: and I were mentally compatible, certainly physically compatible.

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Speaker 3: She just what's the best way to say.

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Speaker 11: You want somebody a little more intelligent as a partner

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Speaker 11: without making it sound mean.

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Speaker 3: I guess that's what I'm getting at.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's any way to not make

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Speaker 2: that sound mean. No, I know when you're fray it. It

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Speaker 2: sounds terrible, doesn't it telling her that would be me? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't have been a move.

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Speaker 6: But ghosting also, you know, is not the easiest way

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Speaker 2: But so that was it.

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Speaker 11: That's that was the reason why, you know, the date

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Speaker 11: was fun. Certainly the hookup was fun. We hooked up

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Speaker 11: at her place, But I just through our conversations that

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Speaker 2: You can tell after one day usually, I mean when you.

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Speaker 11: Spend an entire night and the night literally with somebody

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Speaker 2: Did she say anything that was not intelligent like that

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Speaker 2: made you think she was dumb? Like what you're basically saying. Sorry.

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Speaker 11: Most of the conversation was just very surface level, like,

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Speaker 11: you know, do you have any siblings? Do you have

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Speaker 11: any siblings? Oh, what did your family? You know, what

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Speaker 11: did your parents do growing up? Where did you Just

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Speaker 11: all that simple stuff. It didn't get any deeper than that.

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Speaker 11: I started talking about my travels and experiences. She didn't

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what, that might not be a smart thing,

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Speaker 2: that might be a financial thing.

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Speaker 11: It just didn't seem like we were on the same

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jay, I have a question for you. You're a

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Speaker 2: smart guy. Do you remember one, I guess glaring thing

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Speaker 11: Yeah, now that you say that, usually you have the

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Speaker 2: Line, Yes you are, you are good job. Laila's on

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Speaker 2: the other line listening and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 11: Hi.

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Speaker 3: I'm not awkward at all.

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Speaker 10: I'm good.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: Just as like a just as a disclaimer, so I

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Speaker 1: literally have a master's degree in business that never came up,

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Speaker 1: so just as a little here.

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Speaker 5: So just yeah, so just to throw that.

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Speaker 3: Out there, And I, well, did you come up at

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Speaker 2: Well, because we were flirting.

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Speaker 7: Insanely talking about whatever else was occurring to us, like

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Speaker 7: I thought, I you know, talked about my family. We

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Speaker 7: were just kind of like first dating stuff like we

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Speaker 7: were just talking about day one, the.

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Speaker 3: Basics and then sleeping together or whatever. We can forget

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 11: But.

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Speaker 7: I don't think we ever even got a chance to like, honestly,

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Speaker 7: this is totally fine.

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Speaker 2: But he did talk a lot about himself.

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Speaker 9: You know, and that is I didn't really get that

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Speaker 9: many opportunities to actually speak about myself very much. So

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Speaker 9: there's that maybe just something to consider for future dates.

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Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, like, we just talked about service stuff,

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Speaker 9: and I thought you were kind of intreatment.

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Speaker 2: I kind of now think you're a stop.

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Speaker 8: Like the reason I haven't traveled it because I had to.

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Speaker 7: Put myself through school and had to work full time

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Speaker 3: So yeah, well yeah, well I feel about this Paul

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, having heard you say that, I can and

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Speaker 11: absolutely see how I came off as a snob, and

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Speaker 11: I do. I do apologize if I didn't give you

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Speaker 11: enough time to talk about yourself. And it is very

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Speaker 11: impressive that you have your masters that that's really awesome.

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Speaker 2: Actually, Jay's on that back, yeah real quick.

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Speaker 11: Right, Yeah, I'm on the spot here, and uh man,

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Speaker 11: I feel bad now, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I talked about their full education.

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Speaker 8: I'm not going to sit there and brag about my

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Speaker 8: master's degree on a first date. Like, I feel like

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Speaker 8: that's not necessarily something I would say unless somebody asked me, point.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, that probably should be a question of yours

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Speaker 2: when you date Jay, if you if you put a

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Speaker 2: lot of stock in that stuff. Where'd you go to college?

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Speaker 2: What kind of degree do you have? Where have you traveled?

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Speaker 11: A master's degree is a hell of a turn on

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Speaker 11: for me, So you know, I would have known that

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Speaker 11: we might have made it out of top golf even quicker.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, let me just ask a question, then, Jay,

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Speaker 2: would you like another date with Leila? We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 11: I would love the opportunity to reconcile myself with Leilah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna go ahead and say no to that.

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Speaker 8: I feel like, first of all, you kind of are

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Speaker 8: a little bit of a snob, and then second of all,

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Speaker 8: like who ghosts people that like that after sleeping with them?

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Speaker 12: It's just not a very like gentleman thing to do.

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Speaker 12: Like you could have let me out, You could have

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Speaker 12: lied to me if you thought I was stupid. You

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Speaker 12: could have just been like, you know what, I'm not

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Speaker 12: interested in anything long term. But instead of you just

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Speaker 12: kind of like didn't answer. Yeah, so no, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well that was very polite.

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Speaker 8: There's a lot of other words I wanted to say you,

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Speaker 8: Wiles First D follow up