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Speaker 1: this week, ladies and gentlemen, we've of course got another

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Speaker 1: that's style doesn't matter at that point. For those of

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00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: you who are out there though, who are thinking about

423
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: going out to the Gobi and looking for these things,

424
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a great clue as to

425
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: how to find evidence that they exist. Okay, I'll wait

426
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: till the end. Oh, come on here, Now how about

427
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 1: you you create your own evidence. Well, yeah, you can

428
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: do that. Well, here's here's how to get a clue.

429
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: I think the black socks all, which is a small

430
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: treer shrub that lives in the goby. And of course

431
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: there's that little that little thing, the desert thumb that

432
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: likes to hang out with the with the bush and

433
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: Mongolian death worm just loves the hell out of those things.

434
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: So all you gotta do is you go to an

435
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: area where the low and local natives say that you're

436
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: likely to find him on Gooldian deathworm, and you find

437
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: these things and you dig up the sand around the bushes,

438
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: put it in the large containers, take it back to

439
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 1: the lab. Soaking water, drain the water off, distill the water.

440
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: And the residue left should be an incredible poison, because

441
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: as these things move through the sand, they are going

442
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 1: to leave some residual some residual chemicals behind on the

443
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: sand because it's on their skin. It's on their skin,

444
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: so they're gonna leave a residue of this deadly poison.

445
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: So all you gotta do is, like I said, soak

446
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: to sand, drain it off, distill the water, do some

447
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: lab and alice on it and see what deadly chemicals.

448
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: The one flaw in that is assuming that the deadly

449
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: poison that's on their skin is always there. In other words,

450
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: they're always damp with it, because if you're a desert creature,

451
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: always having moisture on you as a very inefficient means.

452
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: So it might be that when you touch them, their

453
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: reaction is to spurt it out of their pores, because

454
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: there are critters that when you poke them, they ooze

455
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,280
Speaker 1: stuff out as a reaction, and so it could be

456
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: that it's not until they feel contact that they put

457
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: that out. And maybe it is that when they brush

458
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: against the rock they automatically put out the poison. It

459
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: seems inefficient to have it on them all the time. Well,

460
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: now that we're done with that, let's go into the

461
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: theories that I found. Well, they're they're not real, they're theories.

462
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: But here's the basic first theory. The whole thing is

463
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 1: a fake. The whole thing doesn't actually I mean this,

464
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: this is this is a viable thing that we have

465
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 1: to look at. Is that it's not real. It could

466
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: be that it's it's a story that is just a

467
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: tall tale that over the years has just gotten bigger

468
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: and bigger and bigger with each retelling, so that it's

469
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: just it's taken on all these fantastical abilities when it

470
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: never actually existed. I mean, it couldn't. It could have

471
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: been just one of those things that apparent in the desert.

472
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: So you're a nomad with your chill dren in the desert,

473
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: and you say, if we stopped, don't wander away, or

474
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: the death worm will get you. Exactly. I was gonna

475
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: say that it's probably one of those stories that parents

476
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: tell their kids to scare the crap out exactly, primarily traumatized,

477
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 1: but at least they don't wander off into the desert

478
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: and exactly, so that that could be that could be

479
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, it's pretty valid, okay. And and

480
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: you think about like, you know, other methical creatures like

481
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: the snipe, you know this guy that this guy that

482
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: went off to to Mongolia and the like the president

483
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: of Mongolia Andrews. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and he's saying, so

484
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would love so very much

485
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: if you could find that with the Mongolian death worm hunt. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

486
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: They all have probably had a great laugh about it. Well,

487
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: there's there's some creatures that actually do exist in nature

488
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: that if we look at, could potentially be a relative

489
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: of or a candidate for what the death worm is. Yeah, Sicilians,

490
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: which it's it's not the from the country Sicily. This

491
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: is a breed of creature. There a E C I

492
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: L I not right, but it's pronounced very similar. They're

493
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: amphibians there. They're somewhere between a snake and a worm.

494
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: They they're really small. Normally they're only a couple inches long,

495
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: but there are a couple that can get up to

496
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: I don't know, about four or five ft long. They've

497
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: got no legs, their skin is smooth, and they live underground.

498
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: They don't they have itsy bitsy eyes and occasionally they

499
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: will come up above ground and they've got a but

500
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: they've got a weird pointed head, which according to stories,

501
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: this thing doesn't have a discernible head. So that's a problem. Uh.

502
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: The other problem is that they tend to live in

503
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: moist tropical areas, so you know, they're they're an underground

504
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: they're very damp, you know, the desert dwelling kind of critter. Yeah,

505
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, God knows many many thousands

506
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: and eons ago what the climate and the Gobi desert

507
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: was like that. You know, it could have one time

508
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: been a moist, lush jungle and climate. You're stealing my

509
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: thunder there, Joe, hold off on that because that that's

510
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: going to come up in a little bit. There's another theory.

511
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: I did it to you last week. Um, we've got

512
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: Ampi sibia, which is another kind of burrowing, legless, long

513
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: bodied creature. They're they're actually really similar to the sicilian,

514
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: except that they don't live in the same areas and

515
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: they don't grow nearly as large. But they are another

516
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: kind of weird little worm like long critter. They have

517
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: rings instead of scales, so kind of like the dune worms.

518
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: They've got big rings as they go down their body.

519
00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: But again they don't live in the right areas. Uh,

520
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: there are actually and this was this was something I

521
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: found really interesting and I thought kind of could be

522
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: a match. Have you ever heard of legless lizards? So

523
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: legless lizards, they they're not a snake. They look like lizards,

524
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: but they either have small little bits of stumps for legs,

525
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: or there's no leg you know, maybe one set or

526
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: the other is missing, or it's a little flap of

527
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: skin where they've devolved, you know, de evolved the need

528
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: for that leg, and so they're gone, and they've the

529
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: problem with legless lizards is that they've they've got they

530
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: got they got regular scales, but there they do get big.

531
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: So there's one called the glass lizard. It's a legless lizard,

532
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 1: and it's really really gross looking. I'm looking at a

533
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: picture right now. Yeah, the leg the glass lizard can

534
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 1: get all five feet or longer, and it's got these

535
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 1: really weird grooves on both the left and the right

536
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: side of its body that go all the way down

537
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: its length. So the best way to describe it, it's

538
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: got to like look up the glass lizard and you'll

539
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: see ladies and gentlemen and then you'll curse me for

540
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: having had to see this nightmarish creature. But like lizards,

541
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: legless lizards would be a creature because they're a lizard

542
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 1: that could live in the desert easily. But they've got scales,

543
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: and they've got an obvious head because they're a lizard,

544
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: so they've got a pointy tail, little kind of blunt

545
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: is head lizards dot That doesn't rule them out entirely

546
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: because after all, after all, God knows when the last

547
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: human being actually soldom Mongolian deathworm exactly, and they might

548
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: have been at a distance. So I I consider the

549
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: legless lizard actually one of the top possibilities for what

550
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: this is. The next one is it could just actually

551
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: be a snake. The stories talk about the fact that

552
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: it has it spits a venom, which is very similar

553
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: to cobra's. Cobras are are really accurate with spitting the poison,

554
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: and that poison really does not do good things to people,

555
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: So they could be a snake. One of the other

556
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: descriptions that you see of the Mongolian deathworm is that

557
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: it's not it's got the blunt ends, but it's actually

558
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: got spiky protrusions on both the front and the back

559
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: of it. I'm not saying how long these spikes are,

560
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: so they're not like fantastically big things. They could just

561
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: be a little spiky ridges. But that's a lot like vipers.

562
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: If you think about adders and vipers, they've got a

563
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: lot of ridges on their heads, and that's something that

564
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: they used to detect vibration in the ground and in

565
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: the air. So again, this is very plausible that it

566
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: just could be a really venom is really shy snake,

567
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah, So somebody comes along and it startles it,

568
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: and what does it do. It stands up and it

569
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: spits venom atom and then burrows into the ground. And

570
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: then the story just grows from there. So the electricity

571
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: part of it, and maybe it was attacked on later on. Yeah,

572
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: place like they go to the desert, I could totally

573
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: see a place like that having a big, scary, poisonous snakes.

574
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: And I'm not skeptical about that. No, I'm not at

575
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: all snakes. There's a lot of varieties of snakes. Reh.

576
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 1: This is also stealing your thunder a little bit because

577
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: I know where we're headed in terms of theories. But

578
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's such a thing as an electric eel,

579
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: And if the desert was once a huge sea, I

580
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: don't know what everything was once a huge sea, right,

581
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, I guess in my mind

582
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: it's possible that it evolved into something more snake like.

583
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 1: But also let's let's go, let's go there. But because

584
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: but as far as you know, electric eel going, you know,

585
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: evolving into the dry land variant that has is the

586
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: ability to store and not electrical energy to drop a

587
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: herd of cattles camels in my mind, not to like

588
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 1: reveal what I think about this story, but in my mind,

589
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: that's an obvious like that that that bid is is

590
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: that's easy to toss out the window. I understand that. Well,

591
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: and let's let's run down that. We'll just we'll just

592
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 1: jump ahead to that theory, because this is the theory

593
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: that I came up with on my own. So I

594
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: admit that I'm grasping a strauss and I can't think

595
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: of the phrase when you take loose bits of related

596
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: data and draw conclusion from them. But that's that's what

597
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: I did to to come up with this maybe plause

598
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: possible theory. Yeah, it's called making things up. Okay, that's

599
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: that's what I thought it was. According to legends of

600
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: the region, what is now the Gobi Desert, a hundred

601
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: to two hundred thousand years ago was a giant into

602
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: inland lake, and at some point whatever land mass or

603
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: geologic structure that was holding that lake in place gave

604
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: way and that lake drain, so the whole area no

605
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: longer is full of water. Well, if it's a giant

606
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: inland sea, it's going to have some kind of fish

607
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: in it. So now let's step back to what Devin

608
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: said about the electric eel. The electric eel is one

609
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: of six different species that are on the planet that

610
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: make electricity to shock, stunt kill, prayer or predators. And

611
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: they've all done so independently, and I did some research

612
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: on it's really kind of interesting. They've all used the

613
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: same gene, which is yeah, it's it's very interesting unique,

614
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: and yet they're all very sting rays and all of that.

615
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: That they're electric rays, not sting rays. So you're arguing

616
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: a favorite intelligent designs that what you're saying. But what

617
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm saying. What I'm saying here is let's just say

618
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: that in that inland, see something like the electric eel,

619
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: which by the way, is not a fish. It's a lungfish.

620
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: It breathes oxygen through its mouth, so electric eels have

621
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: to come up and take the yes exactly. So, if

622
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: there's something like a lungfish that can make electricity in

623
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: this sea, and the sea doesn't just drain in one

624
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: giant torrential outpour, it's slowly drain over over a couple

625
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: of centuries or thousands of years, thousand years, these creatures,

626
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: which already your air breathers, could slowly learn to adapt

627
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: and burrow in the mud, and then when the mud

628
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: went away, they went deeper into damper soil and sand

629
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 1: down below to stay cool and moist, which would make

630
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: sense when people say the thing only comes up when

631
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: there's a heavy rain, because it's got to come all

632
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: the way to the surface to get air, and it

633
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: would only be when the ground was super wet that

634
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: they would be able to conduct enough electricity to send

635
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: that to somebody who was standing near it. Do you

636
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: see where I'm heading with this? No one totally grasping

637
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: at straws on this one, but it like, okay, well

638
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: I could, I could see, And I guess that the

639
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: other argument would be if it's seen around a tree,

640
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: a tree needs water, right, so there's definitely like deeper wells.

641
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: And I don't know if there's something about the combination

642
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: of those two that means that there's more moisture or

643
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: whatever to support both of them in the middle of

644
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: this desert, or maybe it just like you know, that

645
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: little parasitic plant a little thumb desert. And I think

646
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: I obviously don't understand how evolution works that well. And

647
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: and again I'm not I'm not going to say that

648
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: I understand evolution clear enough this could happen, but just

649
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: one and two and three I could see now that

650
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: could happen. Yeah, I mean, it's entirely a possibility. It is,

651
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: But you know, I still you'd think that somebody would

652
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: have come across one of these things, unless that they

653
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: always lived that far down in the sand because it's

654
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,959
Speaker 1: nice and cool and damp, and it's only when it's heavy,

655
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: heavy rains that they come out. I mean, I don't know. Again,

656
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: I realized I'm grasping a straws on our final theory.

657
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: It's actually an extinct creature. Okay. People have been living

658
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: in that region for eons, as Joe said, So it

659
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 1: is quite possible that there was something similar in one

660
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: form or another to the death worm that was in

661
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: the region and it died out either through you know,

662
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: evolution made it run an extinction, or people freaked out

663
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 1: and they hunted it, or they killed it out of

664
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: fear or what over the case, maybe it may be

665
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: that there was a creature like that at one point

666
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: there and it's no longer there. But the story is

667
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: stuck around. That's that's also entirely possible. Yeah, that's possible.

668
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: Although you know, I would think they would have come

669
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: across a skeleton because there's been a lot of digging

670
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: in the Gobi Desert. I mean, there's a lot of

671
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: dinosaurs bones buried in that desert, and there's been a

672
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: lot of expeditions, a lot of a lot of big

673
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: old dinos have been dug up out of the Gobi.

674
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: But if it's a little creature, though, it might have

675
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: really fine bones that just get broke up really easy,

676
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: possibly or no bones, could have no bonestebrates don't have

677
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: there an invertebrate, they have no bones, and if it

678
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: had some kind of um carapace or shell to it,

679
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: that would potentially break down if it was like an

680
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: insect of some kind or even no, I mean, I

681
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: don't know that a worm would leave a fossil unless

682
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: it was under like a really real the mud or

683
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: something like that that dies in the mud and it

684
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: wants up getting preserved. Yeah, but if it's not in

685
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: the mud, it's you know, there's no bones, it's just

686
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: like basically flash that decays. And and if there's no one,

687
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: if there's not hard enough ground to pack around it

688
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: to leave the impression, then we have no impression of it. Yeah, anyway,

689
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: so it seems possible we just haven't found it. I'm

690
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: sure there's I mean, I'm sure, like you know, for

691
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: every living creature on the planet today, I'm sure there's

692
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: probably ten or a hundred that have gone extinct, so

693
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: there could have been something like that very simply. Yeah, well,

694
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: what I mean, what what do you guys? What do

695
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: you guys think? What's your favorite theory? My favorite theory

696
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: is that it's probably just a local legend. Although you know,

697
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 1: I think that they can they can easily put a

698
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: bunch of just oversized rat traps around some of those

699
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: plants and and nab some of those things. I think

700
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: that that might be called for. That is such an

701
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: effective effective means. I'm sure that will totally work those

702
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: sticky traps. Yeah, yeah, roach motels and I'm talking about

703
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: rat traps to kind of go snap with the cheese

704
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: and everything. And then the best thing about it is

705
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: you you tie wire like a cable to it and

706
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: stick a stick like a steel rod into the ground

707
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: to ground it so you'll totally drained it of a

708
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: selectricity or something that're not a fan of that at all.

709
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: I like your theory, actually, yeah, the like weird slow

710
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: lungfish evolution situation. I think it's I like it. I

711
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: personally like it, though mine is fun. I think it's

712
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: probably just a really shy snake. I really I have

713
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: the feeling that it's a very shy snake. A lot

714
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: of the quote unquote illustrations that you see of it,

715
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the people just making up what they want.

716
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: They're things that are reminiscent of dune or tremor worms

717
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: sticking out of the sand. You can't see its bottom

718
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: half because it's sticking out, and I can there are

719
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: snakes that that burrow and then pop their heads out

720
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 1: and look around. And I could totally see somebody seeing

721
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: that from a distance and it's spitting or freaking out

722
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: and burrowing back in and having no idea and starting

723
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: a story. That's kind of why I think, that's why

724
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: I lean towards a snake. Well, yeah, I'm sure there's

725
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: snakes in the Gobi though, And and the thing that

726
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: is is the locals know those snakes and they're probably

727
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: not gonna mistake snakes. There's there's all kinds of you know,

728
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: new things that are found all the time because they

729
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: just stay away from people. They're just so afraid or

730
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: not afraid, but they just instinctually stay away from people.

731
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: And when you're in the desert, you're not walking by yourself,

732
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: you're walking with a bunch of people, critters or machinery.

733
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: You're gonna make a bunch of noise and vibration which

734
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: is assigned to hide. But well, it's true that there

735
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: are there are definitely creatures were still finding new species.

736
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: So it's it's entirely possible that's something like this exists.

737
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: I doubt as quite as fantastical, scary and gross and

738
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: now an enormous and everything like that. But you know,

739
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: I I tend to there could be something the basis

740
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: might be some extremely bent of a snake. You know

741
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: that that might be the where it came from. Well,

742
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: if you if you have your own theory and you

743
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: want to tell us what that is, you are more

744
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: than welcome to share that with us. If you go

745
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: to our website Thinking Sideways podcast dot com, you can

746
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: leave a comment on the website. All of the episodes,

747
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: of course, are on the website, so you can listen

748
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: to any of them there or if you prefer to

749
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,280
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750
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751
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752
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,840
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753
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 1: to to download a show and you realize you know

754
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: one's come out, you can always go ahead and find

755
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: us on Stitcher and just stream it over any mobile device.

756
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: We are on Facebook, so we've got the Facebook page

757
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: and the Facebook grew. We're we're sharing stuff on their

758
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: people seem to be enjoying it and having a good time,

759
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: so you can track us down there, and anything you

760
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: want to share you can share right there as well.

761
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: And of course we have our email address, which is

762
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways Podcast at gmail dot com, and you can

763
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: send us an email with your thoughts. If you're a

764
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: Mongolian deathworm and you want us to get the story straight,

765
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: you can if you figure out how to type, you

766
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: can send us an email. You know we're gonna get

767
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: emails that are just like and then a follow up

768
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: angry email, why is the keyboard on my computer melted

769
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: after it sent you this? At the bottom underneath Mongolian deathworms,

770
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: says sent from my iPhone. Yeah, I know they're everywhere.

771
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: I can see this happening. You know. I think the

772
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: other thing about the Mongolian death worms, if there are

773
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: any of you out there a lot. What I want

774
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: to know is, if you guys are so incredibly scarily dangerous,

775
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 1: why don't you all gang up and invade Ulambator. You

776
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: can easily slaughter all the human inhabitants and the whole

777
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: city yourself. I don't even know where that's at. That's Mongolia,

778
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: Capital Mongolia. Okay, I figured it was your Mongolia. But yeah,

779
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: I think it would be really cool. I think they

780
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: should just team up and invade Russia. I'd be kind

781
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: of cool they could. But anyway, so what we're talking about,

782
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: we're moving We're moving on from that because we have

783
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: a we have a couple of listener emails that that

784
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: we got that we wanted to share. We got a

785
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: couple of good ones share well as as opposed to

786
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: the usual nasty ones. Yeah, exactly, Devin, you want to

787
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: you wanna read the first one? Sure? All right, let's

788
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: hear it's ready. Okay, this one is from Hunter Hey, Hunter,

789
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: was his name hunter? Or is the a hunter? I

790
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: don't know. He might be a hunter, but his name

791
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 1: is hunter. Okay, he says, Hey, Thinking Sideways Crew. I

792
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 1: am a butcher by trade and spend lots of times

793
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Speaker 1: working in the cold. The time passes with hours of

794
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: music can podcasts every single work day. By far, the

795
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: most anticipated podcast is indeed the Thinking Sideways podcast. You

796
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: are intelligent and witty and most importantly entertaining. Y'all managed

797
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: to cover theories ranging from the mundane to the supernatural

798
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: without seeming condescending to either side. Having three hosts with

799
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: varying beliefs makes it a bit more interesting as well.

800
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: But I've been listening to the podcast since the biogong

801
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: Pipes and ever since have tore through the backlog all

802
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: the way to the ghost blimp Um? Are there any

803
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: more from before then? If not, y'all really started strong,

804
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: with a higher production value than most starting podcasts. Either way,

805
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: y'all seem to have no intention of letting off the

806
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: throttle yet keep up the good work. Of course, he

807
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: has his list of favorites and his list of suggestions.

808
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: I think he must be from the South somewhere. I'm

809
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: gonna guess lots of y'alls, and he just says, you know,

810
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: thanks to Bunch for the highly intelligent entertainment, for much

811
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: we appreciate, and we're making your work a little easier. Yeah,

812
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 1: no kidding, and thanks for being a butcher. Yeah yeah,

813
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: And I don't want to have to cut him up

814
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: for myself. I don't. That's that's not that's a lot

815
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: of work. Yeah, and I did have to let Hunter

816
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: know that unfortunately the Ghost Wlimp is the first episode.

817
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: We don't have any hidden ones that we we we

818
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: tried out in the beginning. Unfortunately, I'm glad that he

819
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: thought that we started out at a pretty high production

820
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: value because I listened to those old ones every once

821
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: in a while and think, wow, that sounds awful. They're

822
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: in black and white with that like really annoying, like

823
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: vital like crackling. Yeah. Yeah, I discovered that it wasn't

824
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: so awesome to put that in after a while. Yeah, no,

825
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: I didn't put that in. Okay, Well, we've got another

826
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: email that I wanted to read, and this is from Will,

827
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: who actually is here in Portland. Will Will was us

828
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: saying that he had a chance to listen to the

829
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Speaker 1: Jefferson Davis eight episode, and he said he really enjoyed it.

830
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Speaker 1: And as Will said here, the interview was solid, the

831
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: subject matter was engaging, and the infographic was incredibly helpful

832
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: trying to follow the spaghetti mess of a case, which

833
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: is really a good description a lot of names in. Yeah,

834
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: the podcast itself was really long, but there's nothing you

835
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 1: can do about that with a bizarre case like this. Actually,

836
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Speaker 1: I think the length is really the limiting factor on

837
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Speaker 1: doing subjects subjects like this regularly. Two hours is a

838
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: lot of time to commit to a podcast, no matter

839
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Speaker 1: what subject is. I agree with that. You know, not

840
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Speaker 1: all of our listeners are gonna want to listen to

841
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Speaker 1: two hours us droning on no And you know, I

842
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Speaker 1: remember we used to get mail pretty frequently that said,

843
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: oh well, you guys should do longer shows. You should

844
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: do shows. And our shows have definitely gotten longer. You know,

845
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: we started out minute shows and now we're you know, yeah,

846
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, when we sit down and we say there's

847
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: going to be a short show and it ends up

848
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 1: being you know, forty five minutes to an hour, and

849
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a good place for us

850
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 1: to be. I agree, but I think that, you know,

851
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: every once in a while we end up doing this

852
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: two hour long marathon, and it's always the topic. It's

853
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: the topic that drives. It's always just a weird anomaly.

854
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: But but Will goes on here, and he says, uh,

855
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: I do think it's really interesting to investigate stories like

856
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: this unsolved quote unquote multiple murders in the area or

857
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: in the era of c s I contrast sharply with

858
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 1: the crime solved tidily in an hour on our television sets.

859
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: That's true. I think that. I'm sorry. What he says is,

860
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,919
Speaker 1: I think that what's really makes the Jefferson Davis eight

861
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: compelling is that eight bodies should be enough to solve

862
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: almost any mystery. Well, yeah, that's yeah, you know, I

863
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: started agree with that. Then again, if you're look at

864
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: stuff like the Green River killer that was that was

865
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: like what dirty bodies that was over many years. Yeah, yeah,

866
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: but I mean no, he I mean, you've both got point.

867
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: There's a lot cside that you know is available today.

868
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 1: And he doesn't make a good point. Everybody expects, now,

869
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go do this and the cs I is

870
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: going to solve it in an hour and a half. Well,

871
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: it's that joke, right, is the like zoom and enhanced?

872
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: You know? I love that. Yeah, we can take a

873
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 1: tack on an image that has like eight pixels in it.

874
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: We can stop how you know, get a beauty, can

875
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: run it out. Yeah, I run an algorithm and everybody

876
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: always image out of that. Everybody always forget the reflection.

877
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: Better check the reflection. Check the reflection there. Yeah, yeah,

878
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: totally works, you know, and we forget about that. I

879
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: always do committing crimes. I'm always not looking for the mirrors,

880
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 1: and that's why I get Yeah. But anyway, you know

881
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: that with the Jeff Jeff Davis say, I think the

882
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: thing is too is that murder is typically the easiest

883
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 1: crime to solve because there's usually somebody got a big

884
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: jones for the other, for the murder victim, and so

885
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: it's usually pretty easy to figure that one out. But

886
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: when it's a random thing like a serial killer, for example,

887
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: which this very likely is, then it's not so easy solved,

888
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: unfortunately not or it could be a massive conspiracy of

889
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 1: criminals and the police too. So maybe they are easy

890
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: just solved, but the police just don't feel like doing it.

891
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't know. Well, regardless

892
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: to Hunter and Will and everybody else, you sent us

893
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: emails in uh this week that we got. Thank you

894
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: very much. We do appreciate that suggestions. By the way, yes,

895
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: thank you for filling up our things back longer. Are

896
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: the hoppers? Yeah, I just I just I just put

897
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of them in there. That's good. More planets

898
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: all right. Well, in in the spirit of trying to

899
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: keep this under an hour, we're going to go ahead

900
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: and wrap this one up this week. Guys. So I

901
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the little death worm. Don't go looking

902
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: for one, and we will talk to you next week.

903
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,439
Speaker 1: If you're in the Gobi Desert and Junior is alive,

904
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: Suddenly a big thunderstorm comes rolling up. Get the hell

905
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: out of dodge, so all I can say so anyway, goodbye.

906
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna wiggle on out of here.