1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: From the heart of where innovation, money and power callive 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: in Silicon Valley and beyond. This is Bloomberg Technology with 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: Emily Chay. Welcome to a very special edition of Bloomberg Technology. 4 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: I'm Emily Chang in San Francisco. We've got so much, 5 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:36,880 Speaker 1: so much to cover today. In the next hour, Crypto 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: reeling from the f g X explosion. Sam Bankman freed 7 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: apologizing after allegedly using customer funds to invest in other projects. 8 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Even the White House is monitoring this situation. Plus more 9 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: of Twitter's top executives leave the company, including the head 10 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: of trust and safety and Elon Musk Tell's employees at 11 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: an all hands meeting that bankruptcy is not out of 12 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: the question, and a not so cold war between the 13 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: U S and China along with a looming recession. Just 14 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: as the chip crisis was easy, a m D isn't 15 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: slowing down launching a new chip as it continues to 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: take share from Intel and a m D CEO Lisa 17 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Sue joins us right here in an exclusive interview, and 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: the women investors of All Rays who started shaking up 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: Silicon Valleys grow culture share their thoughts on how much 20 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: progress has and hasn't been made, and how startups survived 21 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: their toughest test yet. But first, as you all know, 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: this is my last day sitting in this chair, and 23 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: I have to get through the next hour, So I'm 24 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: not going to get too deep right now, but I 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: want you to know that this show is going to 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: be special and we have a lot of news to 27 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: get through. We're getting more details on the crypto blow 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: up now. According to the Wall Street Journal, f t 29 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: X lent billions of dollars worth of customer assets to 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: pay for risky bets by its affiliated trading firm Alami. 31 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: To research Bloomberg, Shinali Bossik has been covering every step 32 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: of the story or Shinali, Wow, what has happened in 33 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: the last forty eight hours? Where does things stand right now? Emily, 34 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: just a breath taking amount of money that we are 35 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: talking about here. In addition to venture capitalists having to 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: mark down their state two zero uh sequoia really coming 37 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: up front on that note and other investors likely to follow, 38 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: you do have the Wall Street Journal reporting that of 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: the sixteen billion dollars in customer assets that were on 40 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: the f t X platform, more than half of the 41 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: customer funds were lent to the sister company, Alameda. So 42 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: obviously this is going to be a big question of discussion, 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: a question of concern as we keep on moving along. 44 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: We did see interestingly Sam bingg but Free to take 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: to Twitter today and start to address the idea that 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: he messed up. He said it over and over again, 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: but that he really wanted to still try to find 48 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: money to make investors, that investors clients rather whole, and 49 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: that those clients would be made whole before any investors 50 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: would be And again, remember this is not a bankruptcy 51 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: process yet by any means, but if it were to 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: be in a bankruptcy process, it would be much more 53 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: complicated in terms of figuring out who got assets and 54 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: who got them first. Now, f t X US was 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: never part of that deal that we were talking about 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: the last couple of days when it came to Finance 57 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: potentially buying f t X dot com assets outside of 58 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: the United States. But we are seeing that f t 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: X is saying now that they're going to be potentially 60 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: halting trading and withdrawals in the coming days here. Now 61 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: that is very important because if trading has halted there 62 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 1: as well, then you really have another part of the 63 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: ft X empire that was very connected to the financial industry, 64 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: had a different set of investors, and was also the 65 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: one that really helped facilitate the bailouts of some of 66 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: these other crypto firms also potentially in trouble here. So again, 67 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the story really is just beginning, even though it feels 68 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: like it's been unraveling very, very drastically for the last 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: couple of days. Son, You've got investors, very prominent investors, 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: telling their clients that their investments and f t X 71 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: are now basically worthless. How are investors responding, How are 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: regulators responding? You know, we've spoken to a number of 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: investors and regulators. We have to remember that there is 74 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: an active investigation going on. This is the SEC, this 75 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: is the Department of Justice, this is the CFTC. And 76 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: what's remarkable about this emily is not very long ago, 77 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean really days ago, when there was not this 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 1: type of trouble and f t X. You saw f 79 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: t X working with regulators to try to change the 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: rules of the game. Uh, they were working with the 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: SEC to to advance a proposal that would really reduce 82 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: a reliance on clearing houses for certain trades. Uh, and 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: it was something that the CFTC chair could really change 84 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: a broader part of the financial system if this word 85 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: to go through. So to your point here, regulators are 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: sitting here and not just investigating the circumstance circumstances at hand, 87 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the use of the client funds, which is the primary 88 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: concern here, as well as what happens to the money. 89 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: How are people made whole and how did you keep 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: this from happening again when we've seen liquidity issues multiply 91 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: in the cryptocurrency industry throughout the entire year. As a 92 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: one crypto executive put it on Twitter today, people are 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: asking about contagion when you think about f t X, 94 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: isn't this the contagion We have been seeing it all year? 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: And the reality is one by one, customers that are 96 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: exposed to f t X are exposed, are are releasing 97 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: their exposures by the millions, and you have to wonder 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: what comes next. All right, bloombergsh Ally Bostic, thank you. 99 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: We're gonna stay tuned to your reporting on this story. Meantime, 100 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: Twitter owner Elon Musk emailed staff for the first time 101 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: and warned of quote difficult times ahead Musk, writing that 102 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: there is no way to sugarcoat the economic outlook. He 103 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: also said remote work not an option anymore on that 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: bankruptcy isn't out of the question. Meantime, the FTC says 105 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: it's tracking Twitter developments with concern. Bloomberg sprat Stone, our 106 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: senior executive tech editor, joining us now. I mean, in 107 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: my twelve years covering tech, I can't remember a more 108 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: disruptive time Twitter could go bankrupt. I mean, the news 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: coming out of Twitter seems more cataclysmic every single day. 110 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: And what has stuck out today are these resignations from 111 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: key Twitter personnel, the chief security officer, the chief privacy officer, 112 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: just now you l Roth, the head of trust and security, 113 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: showing an absolute lack of confidence in Twitter's ability to 114 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: secure user data and comply with an FDC consent decree. 115 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: And I've actually heard people who's left Twitter saying, at last, 116 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: yoel is still there now even you know all the 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: person who was in charge of trust and safety is gone. 118 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: The problem is Elon is conducting himself like Elon conducts himself. 119 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: He's an imperial CEO, accustomed to moving very quickly, working 120 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: at all hours of the night, not very accountable to 121 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: his board a Twitter and SpaceX and and you know, 122 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: in most cases not that interested with complying with the 123 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: letter of the law. I mean, we've seen that with Twitter, 124 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 1: with Tesla and the sec. The problem here is that 125 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: the FDC has a consent decree with Twitter requiring it 126 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: to document new products and how it's safeguarding customer information. 127 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: And clearly executives and Twitter are not very comfortable with 128 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: how Elon is conducting himself now two weeks into ownership, right, 129 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: it's only been it's been days, right that he has 130 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: owned this company. How do you even imagine that this 131 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: plays out? So you know this this show today is 132 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: about history. Right, You're almost twelve years anchoring the show. Um, 133 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: so let's go back to some history. Two twelve, one 134 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: year after we started the show, we did a cover 135 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: story in Business Week and called Twitter the company that 136 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: couldn't kill itself. And we we send that because of 137 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: all the chaos internally and its inability to come up 138 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: with new forms of revenue, new products, and yet there 139 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: was something about the company that users just can't look 140 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: away from. And that's certainly something we've seen this week 141 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: with the elections, with with Elon's display user growth is up, 142 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: and and maybe that's a little point of optimism that 143 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 1: despite all of this, as long as he doesn't bleed 144 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,119 Speaker 1: out from shooting himself in the foot again and again, 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he can rescue Tweeter even I tweeted 146 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: right before the show and I just thought, God, I 147 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: hope Twitter still exists when this show is over. It's 148 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: so important to so much of you know, Silicon Valley 149 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: and obviously dialogue around the world. You've been covering Silicon 150 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Valley longer than I have. Eleven thousand people laid off 151 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: at Meta, thousands of people laid off at Twitter, Apple, Amazon, Alphabet, 152 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: everyone cutting costs and thinking how are we going to 153 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: get through a recession? How does this rank compared to 154 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: the financial crisis, the dot com bust? You know what, 155 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: this is just how the place works in Silicon Valley. 156 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: Tech is cyclical. It's happened again and again for for decades, 157 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, the personal computer recession, the dot com bust, 158 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: the Great Recession. You know, if anything, those times might 159 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: have been worse in terms of the number of layoffs. 160 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: And the other thing I would point out now is 161 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: that Silicon Valley has about two percent unemployment in two 162 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: thousand nine. It was, so you know, the difference might 163 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: be that jobs are harder to come by for for 164 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: the recently laid off, I mean the other differences that 165 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: were coming off a very extraordinary period during the pandemic, 166 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: where you know, Twitter hired, Facebook hired employees, Amazon doubled 167 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: in size. So yes, these are significant cutbacks, but it 168 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: comes after a period of maybe overly optimistic growth. All right, well, 169 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: we're going to be watching how your team continues to 170 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: cover these stories, Bradstone, as always, thank you. Turning to 171 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: chips now, chip delivery times dropped by six days in October, 172 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: the most one survey showing chips supply across all major 173 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: product areas now more quickly available. Let's talk about this 174 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: and more with a m D CEO, Lisa Sue. Now, 175 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: am D just announced an update to its server chip 176 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: line up, taking another swing at rival Intel. And it's 177 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: so great to see you here at Lisa in person. 178 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: It's one time we did this a lot times virtually 179 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: in the pandemic, and I'm really glad that you're here today. UM, 180 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: I have to ask first what your take is on 181 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: what's happening in the market right now. What is your outlook? Yeah, absolutely, Well, 182 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: first of all, it's great to be here in person 183 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: with you, and by the way, congratulations on this very 184 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: special show. So we're excited to be here. Um. Look, 185 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, when I look at the market, I would 186 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: say a couple of things. You know, the semiconductor market 187 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: has been so strong over the last several years, and 188 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: we've certainly been trying to ramp up production across the board. 189 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: When you look at today's market, you know, there's certain 190 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: portions of the market that are actually doing extremely well. 191 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: Things like you know, our data center business are embedded 192 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: business UM that services UM aerospace and defense, industrial, automotive, 193 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, these parts of the businesses. And then there 194 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: are some part parts of the businesses that are you know, 195 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: going through a little bit of a lower demand period 196 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: and those are like you know PCs and UM consumer devices, 197 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: and so we're navigating through that. But you know, again 198 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: it's a very exciting day for us because we just 199 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: launched our new server chips UM. So I'm so glad 200 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: that we could talk to you a little bit about that. 201 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the new chip. How do you 202 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: hope this one will change the game. Well, I have 203 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: to say, you know, you know, our server road DApp 204 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: has been like a five year journey. So we launched 205 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: the first EPIC server line in two thou seventeen and 206 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: over the last five years we've had three generations of 207 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: truly leadership performance. So with our new generation, fourth generation 208 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: EPIC and that we code name in GENERA, it's really 209 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: game changing for the server market. And you know when 210 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: I talk about things like you know, UM significantly higher performance, 211 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: UM significantly better UM overall energy efficiency, significantly lower operating 212 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: costs depending on which environment that you're in, and we're 213 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: talking about you know, two and a half to three 214 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 1: times the competition. So we're extremely excited with it. You've 215 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: gotten a lead now over Intel. How sustainable is that lead? 216 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: Because Pat Gelsinger has said, we're going to be in 217 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: the lead again, and what if this is just a 218 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: moment in the sun. Well, what I can say is 219 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: I think hopefully the last five years has been proof. 220 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, you know, our goal has been to every 221 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: year have a stronger and stronger roadmap to broaden how 222 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: we work with our partners and customers. You know, if 223 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: you look across the world at cloud data centers. You know, 224 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: a m D is now the standard for cloud data centers, 225 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: and it's really because of our performance and our overall 226 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: efficiency and our total cost of ownership. So you know, 227 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: we are not taking our our foot off the gas pedal. 228 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: We're going to continue to innovate very strongly. So let's 229 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,239 Speaker 1: talk about Look, if we are going into a prolonged recession, 230 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: how is your strategy evolving. Are you trying to cut costs? 231 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: Are you going to do layoffs? Well, it's a very 232 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: interesting point, Emily. You know, I think UM, a couple 233 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: of things we've been working on really diversifying our business. 234 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: So it's not just about you know, one product line. 235 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: We actually have a broad products a set of product 236 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: lines UM. As I said, data center embedded actually quite strong, 237 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: and we're gaining share UM. And then on the PC 238 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: market and consumer it's a little bit lower, and we're 239 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: navigating through that. And you know, our roadmaps take three 240 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: to five years to develop, so we are not at 241 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: all backing off of our roadmap. UM, We're gonna navigate 242 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: through this. We're going to be tighter on overall operat expenses, 243 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: but we're also gonna UM invest in R and D 244 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: so that we can keep increasing our lead. What about 245 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: rising tension between the US and China, How does that 246 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: change the game for you? Just as the chip crisis 247 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: was starting to ease. Well, we're always you know, very uh, 248 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: you know, watching the situation as it relates to the geopolitics. 249 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, China is an important market, 250 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: but we're also very cognizant of, um, the US you 251 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: know restrictions, and we're operating within those. And I would 252 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: say that we've you know again navigating through you know 253 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: these things. How low can PCs go? So I think 254 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: there's this question, was this just a pandemic play? Well, 255 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: I think PCs are extremely important in the overall ecosystem. 256 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: Now there's no question, um that there was you know, 257 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: a it of excess you know, sort of very higher 258 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: demand over the last you know, eighteen months, two years, 259 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: and now we're in a period of lower demand. But 260 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: I still believe you know, the PC experience when you 261 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: talk about working from home, when you're talking about working 262 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: on the road, when you talk about enterprises and everything 263 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: that you have to do there, when you talk about gaming, um, 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's definitely a very very good overall demand 265 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: and we just have to work through, you know, sort 266 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: of this next couple of quarters and ensure that you 267 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: know that the demand supply picture gets back into balance. 268 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: At the Fortune Most Powerful Woman's Summit recently, you said 269 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: running a m D is like running a new company 270 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: every two years. Explain that it is something like that. 271 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: But you know, the way I think about it is, Look, 272 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: technology is such fast paced, right if you think about 273 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: UM the technology trends, and if you think about the 274 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: size of our company. When I first took over as 275 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: CEO UM, we were a five billion dollar company. You 276 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: know this year will be a twenty three and a 277 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: half billion dollar company. We have a lot more employees, 278 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: we have a lot more product lines, and you know, 279 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: the world is a different place. So we love it. 280 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: You know, we love the dynamic nature of the business, 281 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: and we also believe that that's one of our core 282 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: strengths is we're able to really navigate through, you know, 283 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: sort of a lot of different things. Am D shares 284 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: were on a tear for so long and they have 285 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: taken a hit with the rest of the market. Is 286 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: that hard to watch? Does it doesn't change anything for 287 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: you as you run the company? Well, we certainly believe that, 288 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, the right thing to do is to focus 289 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: on the long term strategy. And the long term strategy 290 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: is you know, product roadmaps, UM, you know, deep deep 291 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: customer relationships, continuing to innovate, and you know that's where 292 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: we spend our time. And of course, you know, we 293 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: all want to ensure that all of our stakeholders are 294 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: are happy with the progress, and so we're always you know, 295 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: working on those things. And I know I've asked you 296 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: this multiple times over the last several years, the state 297 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: of the chip crisis. What phase are we moving into now? Well, 298 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: I think you said it earlier. I think we are 299 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: we have gotten over the hump of you know, sort 300 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: of the the chip shortage as it was called. I 301 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: know you've asked me that several times over the last 302 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: couple of years, the question of the day and two 303 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: years now. And I think what I've said each time 304 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: is that the semiconductor industry knows how to do this. 305 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: We know how to put on enough capacity to satisfy demand. Um. 306 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: We have seen um, you know, a much better supply 307 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: demand balance of now and certainly over the last couple 308 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: of quarters. And I think we are, you know, for 309 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: the most part meeting supply. UM that that is a 310 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: meeting demand that's out there. Now. There are certain still 311 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: pockets of shortages and those will be worked through, you 312 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: know as well. So, so what does the chip industry 313 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: look like through a recession? How does the chip industry 314 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: in your view whether this we have certainly were very 315 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: familiar with these types of cycles and what it means is, 316 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, we have periods of build phase, which is 317 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: what the last eighteen twenty four months were, and then 318 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: we have you know, a periods where there's less capacity 319 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: being brought on, and you know, again we know how 320 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: to manage through these things. Perhaps the most important thing 321 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: though is to focus on, you know, what are the 322 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: secular growth drivers that are going to continue to be important. 323 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 1: That's why data centers are so important, um, energy efficiency 324 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: becomes so important, business transformation for enterprises are so important. 325 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: And then you know things like you know, gaming and 326 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: you are also uh, you know, secular growth drivers. So 327 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very optimistic about the long term and 328 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 1: we're you know, very well prepared to manage through the 329 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: short terms. At a time of m and a is 330 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: at a time of consolidation. Well, first of all, we're 331 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: extremely excited with how well are recent m and A 332 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: has done. So, you know, we close this is links 333 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: acquisition in February. They've now been part of the you know, 334 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: the am D family for the last you know, seven 335 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: eight months. It's gone fantastically well. UM. The business is 336 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: fantastics or above our acquisition case. We also acquired UM 337 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: a company called Pensando, which is a specialist in you know, 338 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: networking technologies as well. And so you know, m and 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: A has been very good for us. But I would say, 340 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, running a very strong organic business is also 341 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: UM sort of front and center in what we do. 342 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: And d CEO Lisa Sue will have more to come together, 343 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I hope, UM. But I really appreciate you coming to 344 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: talk to us today in San Francisco. Thank you so much, 345 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: so wonderful to see you in Congratulations again, thank you. Alright, 346 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: we've got more of Bloomberg Technology after this quick break. 347 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Meta's first major job cuts might not 348 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: cut it. The Facebook parent laid off eleven thousand workers 349 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: this week, but a let's say that won't be nearly 350 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: enough to get the company back to being as profitable 351 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: as it was two years ago, revenue still falling, spending 352 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 1: has ballooned, and the money saved on job cuts just 353 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: to drop in a very large bucket, and it was 354 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: the largest single own art auction in history. In just 355 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: two and a half hours, Christie's presided over the sale 356 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: of sixty artworks for an unprecedented one and a half 357 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: billion dollars. They came from the collection of late Microsoft 358 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: co founder Paul Allen, among them works from Lucien Freud, Goos, 359 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: Dave Clint, and Paul says On. Okay, well, welcome back 360 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: to Bloomer Technology. I'm Emily Chang in San Francisco. Now 361 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: to the wave of tech layoffs, cryptocarnage, and Twitter tearing 362 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: on the possibility of bankruptcy. According to Elon Musk, what 363 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: does it all mean for startups that only just survived 364 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: a pandemic? I want to bring in Alien lead founder 365 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: and managing partner of Cowboy Ventures now who coined the 366 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: term unicorn almost ten years ago, and Jenny left Court, 367 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: general partner at Freestyle VC, both of whom have been 368 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: very very active in helping women get more access in 369 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: Silicon Valley. So first, thank you both for being here today. 370 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for having us on a special day. Um, 371 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: it's truly an honor for both. Kiddy guys are so 372 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: sweet and it's it's it's it's a crazy newsday. It's 373 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: a crazy time for Silicon Valley. You've both been investing 374 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: a long time. What's your read on all of this? Sorry? Um, 375 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean this is the correction that we've all been 376 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: talking about for years that there's just no way right 377 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: that you know, economies are cyclical. Tech has been cyclical, 378 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: and we've had a crazy bowl market for a really 379 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: long time and to the point where people only were 380 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: it lasted so long that people thought that this is 381 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: how companies traded forever. But it was such an anomaly. 382 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: So it's it's quite unfortunate, but it kind of had 383 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: to happen. So how bad does it get or how 384 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: bad are you preparing for it to get? I think 385 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: we're at the tip of the iceberg. I think it's 386 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 1: going to get a lot worse. It's we're just starting 387 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: with the reckoning of like years of going fast and loose. Uh. 388 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: And so I think now you see Stripe, you see 389 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: all the really good profitable company US making layoffs. There 390 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: isn't a company in town that is not cutting. And 391 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna say a lot of startups have 392 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: to wind down. So how does this impact startups? I mean, 393 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: there's so much focus on the big names, but there 394 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: are all of these companies out there, the unicorns, the 395 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: newly anointed unicorns that are struggling. Yeah, and I think 396 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: the it's not going to happen in one fell swoop. 397 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: It's not going to be like yesterday. I was right 398 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: because a lot of companies has a lot of money 399 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: from private markets over the past three years and they're 400 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: kind of living off what they raised and they're cutting. 401 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: Some of them may not cut deep enough. And also 402 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: some of them were built for a different time when 403 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: budgets were a lot more flush. They built products that 404 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: were in some cases we have them. Tech has been 405 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a circular economy where there was 406 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: just a lot of private money. It was a lot 407 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people thought they were geniuses, 408 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of them are geniuses, but also geniuses 409 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 1: in is like basically a zero interest rate environment and 410 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: a lot of things are going to change in the 411 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: next couple of years. Well, and there's also this attern 412 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: matching that goes on in silicon valid whereby you look 413 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: for founders who look a certain way, and maybe Sam 414 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: Bank been freed, for example, matched a pattern of what 415 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: investors think successful founders look like. What is the lesson here? 416 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: So hopefully the lesson is that we all have to 417 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: do more with less, and so those who have been 418 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: spending so much money and haven't actually gotten anywhere will 419 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: not continue to get the next check, and the people 420 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: who have done a lot with very little, let's say 421 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: women or people of color, will actually be given the 422 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: advantage in this new market. How are you changing? Are 423 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: you changing your strategy? Are you are you investing? Are 424 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: you waiting it out? I mean, I think both of 425 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: us are fairly disciplined investors. So we may be a 426 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: little old fashioned in that way, which maybe seemed a 427 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 1: little out of fashion a couple of years ago, but true, 428 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think, uh, I'm optimistic. It's obviously it's 429 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: horrible for a lot of really talented people who have 430 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: gotten laid off. And you know, there's just been a 431 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: lot of x us and you mentioned mostly kind of 432 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: pattern matching, and a lot of people have walked into 433 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 1: venture capital pitch rooms or zooms and matched a pattern 434 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: of like you know, Voyd genius or kind of like 435 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: brilliant genius who often sometimes wind up being like a 436 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: brilliant jerk. And I don't know how many of these 437 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: stories it's going to take for people to realize that 438 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: that's not always the right, like, that's not always the 439 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: recipe for success. But now we're at least getting some 440 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: examples that people can think about and think, actually, a 441 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: person who's actually treats people with respect and builds a 442 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: resilient culture um and build a diverse team is actually 443 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: going to survive the ups and downs of economic cycles, 444 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: perhaps better than just move fast and break things. Since 445 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: you coined the term unicorn, yes to refer to companies 446 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: with you know, a billion dollar evaluation or more. My 447 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: colleague Katie Roof today, she she said, asked a leen 448 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: about unicorantine unicorps. I hadn't heard that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 449 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: we actually I feel like I came up like years ago, right, 450 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: but then it didn't really happen. But it's happening. Yeah. 451 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it's uh, I mean, I think there's gonna 452 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: be a lot of down rounds. So you know that 453 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: already this year, the number of unicorns being minted has 454 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: slowed considerably versus last year, but still like when we 455 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: did the analysis, it was almost ten years ago. Like 456 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: you mentioned, there was it was only US so and 457 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,120 Speaker 1: also the global markets weren't what they are now. Uh, 458 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: the original set had about forty companies in it, right, 459 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: so if you look at like different sources right now, 460 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: the set has over a thousand now it's it's global, 461 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: so in the US is about half. So so it 462 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: means like about five dred at least five US based 463 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: Unicorn so more than ten x um. I think that 464 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 1: will come down. So it's funny. Next summer is like 465 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: the ten year anniversary of the original analysis, and I 466 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: was I'm planning on doing an update, but like I 467 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 1: thought about doing it this past summer, it would be 468 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: a very different update if I had done it less 469 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: this past summer than when I think, when we do 470 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: it next summer, how are you changing your strategy or 471 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: thinking of navigating through this? Would like a lean. I mean, 472 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: I was a founder in two thousand I was a 473 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: founder in two thousand eight. I've been kind of expecting this, 474 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: waiting for it, and kind of, like Alien said, feeling 475 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: foolish to not be playing as fast and loose as 476 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: some of our colleagues. And so right now, I guess 477 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: what I'm doing is I'm making sure our companies are 478 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: in really good shape, those who had the luck of 479 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: raising in the good times, making the most of that capital, 480 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 1: really getting just surgical and execution and making sure that 481 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: they make it last, maybe get to profitability, and then 482 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: being really careful with deploying capital, making sure they're great 483 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: companies that I believe in, that can go the long haul. 484 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: They were building for the right reasons, and um, well 485 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: we're going to be patient. We both have tons of 486 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: capital deploy or plenty of capital floy but no feeling, 487 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: no rush to do. So you're both founders of All Rays. 488 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: You've worked really hard to change the game for women 489 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: as investors and entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley. How much progress 490 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: has been made? And are you worried a downturn set 491 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: some of that progress back? So we were just reflecting 492 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 1: as we were watching you and the earlier segments that 493 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: you wrote, wrote Topia and published it around at the 494 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: same time that All Rays was launched, h and so 495 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: we're just so appreciative of all the work that you 496 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: have done. Both who you have on your show, how 497 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: you ask these questions. Um, it's really I mean it's 498 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: gonna we know you're you're not going anywhere, but um, 499 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: we've that's deeply appreciated because actually it made a huge 500 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: difference to us when we were launching. We were all 501 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: reading that book was around February and we launched in 502 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: April of Yeah. So the ripple effects of what you do, 503 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: what al Rays says keeps going and there's so much 504 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: more work to do, so much more to do. So 505 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: I think we have to all be cognizant as an industry, 506 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: as individuals and organizations. Uh Like Jenny said, like this 507 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: is a time where people have to get like grittier, right, 508 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: And if you're looking for people who have basically their 509 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: entire lives done more with less, you're looking at women 510 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: and people of color. So think it would be a 511 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: terrible mistake to actually cut those people from your talent 512 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: base and to go back to monocultures. Um. Like, I 513 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: think we need really resilient folks to help us lead 514 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,959 Speaker 1: and manage and execute through this recession. Times are changing. 515 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: Elon Musk just told employees that Twitter could go bankrupt 516 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: and you've got almost the entire executive team now gone gone. Well, 517 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, how are you watching this? Any any any 518 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: advice for for Mr Musk. The one thing we were 519 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: talking about is it was in your book that you 520 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: talked about Dick Hostelo talking about they had a huge 521 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: they made a huge mistake not having women at that 522 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 1: table when they were dealing with all the issues. And 523 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 1: here we are, how many years later, and the same 524 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: thing is happening the people in the in the in 525 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: the war room. I don't think there are any women 526 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: around that table. So it's sort of like it's sometimes 527 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: you look and you're like, we've gone nowhere, right, where 528 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: is the progress we obviously needed to accelerate. But then 529 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: we were also talking about the fact that when Bain 530 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 1: Crypto Capital launched their fund with a picture of seven 531 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: dudes on it, they got obliterated, right, and not just 532 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: by women but by men. And everyone knew that wasn't okay. 533 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: So should it have happened, No, But ten years ago 534 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't think they would have been obliterated. So in 535 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: some ways we've made progress in the world's getting educated 536 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: and it's not about altruism, right, it's about good business. 537 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: But in other ways, in the Twitter warm room right now, 538 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: haling Lee, Wait, you are our unicorn. Oh my god, 539 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: this little sore, but were you so care? She's so 540 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: cute and inside she nurtures baby. Just to thank you 541 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: to you for twelve years, happy last day, and thank 542 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: you for all you've done. All right, m ailing Lee, 543 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Jenny left court. Thank you both for stopping by. More 544 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: of what work Tech after this break, we're talking crypto 545 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: and implosion and what's next. This is Bloomberg f t 546 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: X assets have been frozen by the Bahamas regulator. Bloomberg's 547 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: Handimiller covers crypto for us the New The headlines keep 548 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: pouring in. What's happening now? Yes, the situation keeps getting 549 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: more and more complicated. It's extremely fast moving. What we 550 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: do know is that Sam bankman Fried is under some 551 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: serious legal scrutiny and there still is an ongoing investigation 552 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: from the CFTC and the SEC. Could he face jail time? Yeah, 553 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I can't even believe I'm saying that, but 554 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: it's unclear. Um, it's really gonna come down to whether 555 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: he mishandled customer funds. Um. They're also looking at the 556 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: relationship between f t X and allow me to research 557 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 1: the trading firm he helped found. We're also talking about 558 00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: a potentially techtonic shift in the crypto landscape. What other 559 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: ripple effects of this? Everybody's reeling right now. You know, 560 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: the market is struggling. F t X and Sam bankman 561 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: Fried had an incredible reach over the industry. Um he 562 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: is invested in multiple companies, he has built out multiple companies. 563 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: Uh f t X also does a lot of business 564 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: with different players. So it's gonna be interesting to see 565 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: which dominoes fall and how quickly. What are we hearing 566 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: from the other exchanges? I mean, Brian Armstrong, the CEO 567 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: coin Base, was on the show earlier this week saying basically, 568 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: we looked at f t X, but there are some 569 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: things that will come to light and here we are. 570 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: Now what's the word from finance? Yeah, finance. I think 571 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: c Z is sort of basking in a victory right now. 572 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: As Sam bankman Fried put it in a tweet this morning, 573 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: he said, you want so well, victory in the crypto 574 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: space isn't necessarily long lived though, right, Like, how do 575 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: we know? Jesse Patt was on yesterday and say, I said, 576 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: we're going to see who swimming naked? Um, how do 577 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: we know who's swimming naked? Yes, that is very good question. Um. 578 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: And I think there's still going to be a lot 579 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: to unfold here, especially what are you looking at? I'm 580 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: looking at which players are being affected here? Who's on 581 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: the virtue of bankruptcy? Who's getting hit hard by f 582 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: tx's downfall? All right, Bloomer's had a miller. We will 583 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: stay tuned to your reporting. Thank you so much for 584 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: joining us. I'm Emily Chang, and this is the newly 585 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: named Bloomberg Technology. This is Bloomberg Technology. I'm Emily Chang. 586 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: We are live from the Vanity Fair New Establishment Summit 587 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I'm Emily Changing at Facebook headquarters in 588 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Menlo Park, California. Welcome to Bloomberg Technology. I'm Emily Chang, 589 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: live from Apple Park in Coupertino, California, Apple's brand new headquarters. 590 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: The smartphone has proven to be the undisputed king of 591 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: Apple products and in turn revolutionized an entire ecosystem. You know, 592 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: as time has gone on, the smartphone has become more 593 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 1: important to people's lives. Fay Book is now officially a 594 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: publicly traded company. The neat Deck had ruled out the 595 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: red carpet for a bill reading unlike any other. Someone 596 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: suggested a joint venture with Amazon, would that ever happen? Well, really, 597 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: I heard about it from you. I have never heard 598 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: about that. I would be interested in talking s s 599 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: always anything. Anybody that involving helping small business will feel excited. 600 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: A lot of people are looking at Square as an 601 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: example of that. These private tech unicorns are overmout what 602 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: do you think? I don't know. I'm not an economist. 603 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: We have an economist on our board. Talk to him. 604 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: But you've compared the company to Amazon. You've got some 605 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: investors out there who think it might be more like 606 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: an e Bay or just big questions about how big 607 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: the right hailing market can be. How do you deliver 608 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: on the Amazon? We just have to weave got We've 609 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: got to execute. And when you think about what Amazon did, 610 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: they went beyond the bookseller to other categories of retail. 611 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: We're doing the same thing. And I think that the 612 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: ones who've been on us, the investors have been on 613 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: us launch are going to be happy to share. Is 614 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: indicated to open right now at a hundred thirty nine 615 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: dollars a share, which is more than double what you've 616 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: priced at. I mean, are you at all concerned about froth? 617 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: What do you think about that number and the potential 618 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: that you're leaving billions of dollars on the table. That's 619 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: the first time I've heard that number. Um. That is 620 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: that's a you know, when we in April we raise money, um, 621 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: and it was a debt financing. That price would have 622 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: priced us around thirty bucks. Coming to you live from 623 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: the San Francisco Bay Area, where I am sheltering in place, 624 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: all of us at home in order to comply with 625 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: local orders that we not leave our homes in the 626 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: midst of this coronavirus outbreak in the interest of public safety. 627 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: Bear with us as we do our best to bring 628 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: you the news as best we can't. The power of 629 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: the people online forums on Reddit, Discord and more, fueling 630 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: massive market moves in game Stop, BlackBerry, A and See 631 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: and more, leaving hedge funds scrambling as they lose billions. 632 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos is formally stepping down as Amazon CEO, turning 633 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: the reins over to cloud computing boss Andy Jase on five. 634 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: That's twenty seven years to the day after Bezos Incorporated 635 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 1: Amazon dot Com. Jeff Bezos of Blue Origin and his 636 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: crew have pulled off a safe and successful launch, shuttling 637 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: human beings to space for the very first time, landing 638 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: without a hitch. Welcome back to Earth. How do you feel? Oh? 639 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: My goodness? Wow? I mean wow, this is your first 640 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: interview since landing. We all want to know the reality 641 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: of seeing the Earth from above? Did it live up 642 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: to the dream beyond? Honestly, I'm not talented enough to 643 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,279 Speaker 1: describe this in words. Out with the old and in 644 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: with the Meta. Mark Zuckerberg goes all in on the metaverse, 645 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: doubling down on immersive reality and rebranding the entire platform. 646 00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: What the serena slamb for business? What does that look like? Um? 647 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,919 Speaker 1: I have never been asked that question, and I've never 648 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: thought about it, and I think that is such a 649 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: good idea of Twitter is now officially owned by Elon Musk. 650 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 1: The company moreover, is going to go through this completely 651 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: chaotic transition where it's essentially learning how to operate from 652 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 1: day one. Except it's already a going concern with thousands 653 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: of employees. It's it's just not going to end well 654 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: for him. Let's point your hand this way to have 655 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: him drive. Oh, we got around and that does it. 656 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: For this edition of Bloomberg Technology on Emily Chang in 657 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: San Francisco. This is Bloomberg twelve years. Twelve years. That 658 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: is how long I've been hosting this show, hosting the show. 659 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, Thank you. There's a lot of painople here. 660 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: Keep reading almost every day episodes. UM. This was my 661 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 1: first baby, my first rocket ship, and it's time to 662 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 1: launch the next one. Um. I'm going to be expanding 663 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: our coverage and launching news shows on Bloomberg focused on 664 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: the most important people and issues at the heart of tech, 665 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: business and culture. And that means moving on from this 666 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: daily show from My Family to a weekly show, New Family, 667 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 1: to get more in depth, to dive deeper, answer harder questions, 668 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: reinvent how we bring you these stories, and show you 669 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 1: more size of it all. Technology has thrust us into 670 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: a massive experiment in human history, and I want to 671 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: know how society life, how we are changing as a result, 672 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: and try to capture the site. Guys. When I came 673 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,479 Speaker 1: to Silicon Valley in two thousand ten, Airbnb and Uber 674 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: were just starting to rise from the ashes of the 675 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: financial crisis. Apple's market cap was just two fifty million dollars, 676 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: Crypto barely existed, Nobody was even asking the question where 677 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: are all the women? At least not out loud, And 678 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: now Silicon Valley is at another inflection point. You've got 679 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: mass layoffs, crypto imploding, miss and disinformation algorithms gone wild, 680 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: power in the hands of a few companies and a 681 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: few people, and yet the power to do so much good, 682 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: so many problems, and yet the solutions could be just 683 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: two people in a garage away. So thank you for 684 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: helping me and our great team tell these stories. Thank 685 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: you for watching, for contributing, for sending tips to the 686 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: countless people and reporters who share their time and minds 687 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: to join us on the show. Thank you to the 688 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: viewer on Instagram who said he's watched our episodes from 689 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 1: halfway around the world, and um to my mom who's 690 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: maybe got you beat. Maybe Moving on to a new 691 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: chapter at Bloomberg is something that I chose to do, 692 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: but it wasn't easy. And this team is my family. 693 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: From everyone you see in front of the camera and 694 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: behind it, they all work so hard and I'm so 695 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: grateful for it, and I gonna get through this. In 696 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,760 Speaker 1: twelve years, we've interviewed thousands of people, broken, countless stories, 697 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,799 Speaker 1: and I realized that this was my dream job. I 698 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,840 Speaker 1: wrote a book, I had four babies of my own 699 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: who are here, and I just want you to know 700 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: that every day has been an opportunity and every day 701 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,919 Speaker 1: has been special, and there's so much more to come. 702 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,400 Speaker 1: That's all from me for now. Tune into Bloomberg Technology tomorrow. 703 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: Thank you by che