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Speaker 1: You know, there was a gown TV the other day.

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Speaker 1: the show, and judging by the numbers, um you are

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Speaker 1: the Subaru that I worked on this week, and I

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Speaker 1: And it was short of a mystery because Mr Cooper

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Speaker 1: Herb as we call him. Um, I think it's an

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Speaker 1: want to see less than fifty milliams or fifty widgets,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there is a car that can't be fixed.

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Speaker 1: is it worth the effort, time and money? But you

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Speaker 1: How about we take something very simple and basic and

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Speaker 1: I bought a flasher, a five fifty two or fifty

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Speaker 1: Danny said, where's this going? What car is this going on?

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Speaker 1: It's not going on anything. It's gonna become a tool.

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Speaker 1: And he says, gonna become a tool for what? And

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Speaker 1: And as the current would flow, the man, the magnet

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Speaker 1: real old school. And he said, that's why you didn't

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Speaker 1: just use the technology against itself to fix it. I've

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Speaker 1: Scout compass of the local hardware store, and um, I've

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Speaker 1: And uh as far as the Subaru, well, it's uh

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Speaker 1: let's see three sixteen Saturday afternoon. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I got a two thousand five Chevy Silverado. I've owned

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Speaker 1: It was it was nice and clear. Yeah, okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what Jonathan sit tight. Let me pull over

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into this a little bit deeper. I got

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Speaker 1: Aren't any of the car doctor we're talking to? Jonathan

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Speaker 1: up and conquered New Hampshire at zero nine zero zero. Jonathan,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit though this problem for everyone else,

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Speaker 1: a rough idol that occurs at random. Correct, at random.

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Speaker 1: I have no fault codes. I've look no pending codes,

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Speaker 1: We can we can certainly try that. I'll pull those out, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, to pull them. You don't have to pull

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Speaker 1: It's gonna stay running in open loop. It's gonna think

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Speaker 1: number three this is a five point three leader, yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: this as a distributor. Uh. No, distributor. No, it's a

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Speaker 1: Um let's look. You gotta get a wiring diagram in

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Speaker 1: Have you ever replaced them? I have because I had

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Speaker 1: the knock sensors sail. In order to do the knock sensors.

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Speaker 1: And I also ran around with carb cleaner looking for

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Speaker 1: never I never could get the RPMs to come up

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Speaker 1: what I would love to see again, And you're listen

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, dude, you're a better technician

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Speaker 1: I would appreciate that. I would love to see you

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Speaker 1: get a bottle of propane and O TC makes a

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Speaker 1: propane Enrichmond tool. Just go Google search propane Enrichmond tool.

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Speaker 1: It's it's going to be like a little um. You

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Speaker 1: So now it's gonna look like that, but it's gonna

427
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Speaker 1: have a yellow hose with a black knob. And you

428
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Speaker 1: have the ability now to flow propane in a controlled

429
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Speaker 1: environment Alright, watch the O two's watch the fuel trimp um.

430
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Speaker 1: Take a piece of break line, cut it as longer

431
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Speaker 1: as short as you want. Beat the end of the

432
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Speaker 1: break line over into a V. So you now narrow

433
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Speaker 1: that massive you know, that three six line or quarter

434
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Speaker 1: inch line down into a slit. And now you've made

435
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Speaker 1: yourself a very fine tuned boy. I can direct my

436
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Speaker 1: propane exactly where I want it to go, and have

437
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Speaker 1: it in a controlled environment. Carb clean is good. It's

438
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Speaker 1: old school. And the thing I don't The thing I

439
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 1: don't like about it is it's sprays. You know that

440
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Speaker 1: it's pretty, it's it's sprays everywhere. It's an uncontrollable burst.

441
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Speaker 1: So at least now with the propane, you know where's

442
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 1: it going last? All right? When it's when it's together. Um,

443
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Speaker 1: I wonder what would happen if you enriched the fuel

444
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Speaker 1: mixture a little bit with propane? Yep, just feed the

445
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Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor a little bit of propane. You know,

446
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Speaker 1: is the engine looking for fuel? Where is the engine?

447
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: Is this a spark related or some other problem? Okay?

448
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Speaker 1: So if yep, I I see what. I follow you

449
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Speaker 1: there too, all right? You know, if there's a if

450
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Speaker 1: there's a way to enrich the mixture somehow, propane will

451
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Speaker 1: do that. Okay. The other thing I could go back

452
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Speaker 1: and look at is what kind of scantol you using? Well,

453
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Speaker 1: I'm using you'll laugh at me. I'm using. They call

454
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Speaker 1: an e l M. It's a Wi Fi module. It

455
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Speaker 1: just plugs into your O B D two connector and

456
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Speaker 1: I run an app on my phone called dash Command,

457
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Speaker 1: and it is pretty extensive. For ten dollars or fifteen

458
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Speaker 1: dollar investment in the hall setup, you can get a

459
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Speaker 1: significant amount of information out of it. Um, So that

460
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm using. I'm not sure what you got

461
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Speaker 1: for other readings that I could go after. Well, I

462
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Speaker 1: was gonna say, when's your birthday? Once you go on,

463
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Speaker 1: Once you go on, buy yourself a scantal um. You know, uh,

464
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Speaker 1: you would enjoy it, You really would, because something that

465
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Speaker 1: would be really invaluable for you would be the ability

466
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Speaker 1: to look at Mode six. We we We've talked about

467
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Speaker 1: Mode six. You've heard me talk about it here on

468
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Speaker 1: the show. Um. Just like you know the methodology on

469
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Speaker 1: how a computer decides whether or not that vehicle has

470
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Speaker 1: a trouble code, it's looking at data and statistics. Mode

471
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Speaker 1: six is the machine assembly language or the binary language

472
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Speaker 1: of that data, and it interprets it into simple English.

473
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Speaker 1: You know, you're smart enough you could go out and

474
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Speaker 1: buy you could go by Bernie Thompson's tool from a

475
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Speaker 1: T T S out and uh, where's Burnie, Nevada or

476
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Speaker 1: New Mexico. Just um, google search Bernie Thompson and look

477
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Speaker 1: at the scan all right, it's probably a thousand bucks.

478
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Speaker 1: You'll go wild with it. Uh, you know, it'll do

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Speaker 1: everything from a running compression test from the O b

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Speaker 1: D two plug I'm sorry, a cranking compression test from

481
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Speaker 1: the O b D two plug to help interpret Mode

482
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Speaker 1: six data in plain common everyday English. Sounds great. All right,

483
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Speaker 1: you need a laptop to go with it, but you

484
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Speaker 1: know that's another excuse to go buy something. So you know,

485
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Speaker 1: boys and their toys, all right, and it's uh, it's

486
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Speaker 1: all good stuff. So take a look at all that. Um, obviously,

487
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Speaker 1: if you know, I don't know how good your notes

488
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Speaker 1: were in this session, but if you want to hear

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Speaker 1: this again, you can get out to the website car

490
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Speaker 1: Doctor Show dot com. We'll have this podcast. This will

491
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Speaker 1: be our too. You came on right around the twenty

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Speaker 1: minute mark at the top of the hour, and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna run until the twenty minute mark to the top

494
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Speaker 1: of the hour. You were the bottom half of the show. Um,

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Speaker 1: you could probably clip this and uh listen to it

496
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Speaker 1: over again, and you know, just make sure you caught

497
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Speaker 1: everything that we talked about. I'll give it, I'll give

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Speaker 1: it a listen and check all the things off and

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Speaker 1: we'll get back with you. All right, we'll go from there.

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Speaker 1: Good luck, Dea, Jonathan, you too happy hunting Um. You

501
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Speaker 1: know there's a guy I wonder what he did for

502
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Speaker 1: a living. I should have asked him, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: because if he's a type writ a repairman, he's in

504
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Speaker 1: the wrong field. Eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. Typewriters, Tony,

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Speaker 1: there were those big metal boxes keys. You remember typewriters.

506
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Speaker 1: I know you're a little old in your memories faded,

507
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Speaker 1: but Tony is looking at me, goes, what the hecks

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Speaker 1: of typewriter before computers? Eight five zero nine nine zero

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Speaker 1: zero nading the card doctor coming back right after this, Hey,

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Speaker 1: welcome back on any of the card ocurve zero nine

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Speaker 1: nine zero zero. By the way, you can have the

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Speaker 1: Facebook and see my Toyota camera video. You will see

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Speaker 1: it's a little sideways because we had some technical issues.

514
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Speaker 1: I had thumbs Arima, as Danny's gonna be called now.

515
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Speaker 1: He was running the camera and we kind of gotta

516
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Speaker 1: turned sideways. But it's still legible. You can still kind

517
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Speaker 1: of figure out what it's about. But it's a very

518
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Speaker 1: interesting example of to put an alternator in a two

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Speaker 1: thousand eight camera. Well, I had to tell the customer

520
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Speaker 1: I've got to pull the front bumper and take the

521
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Speaker 1: radiator out, something you're not used to hearing every day,

522
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Speaker 1: because this sure isn't your sixty three Chevy and Palette anymore, dad, Um,

523
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Speaker 1: but definitely worth looking at. And then we at a

524
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Speaker 1: post repair video showing the bumper back on and exactly

525
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Speaker 1: where the new alternator went. That. Um, just interesting stuff

526
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Speaker 1: that's out on the ronin any of the Car Doctor

527
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Speaker 1: Facebook page. Let's get over and talk to Larry and Albany,

528
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Speaker 1: New York seventy Plumouth road Runner and some questions on oil. Larry,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey?

530
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having a glove you show. Um. So basically

531
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Speaker 1: I've got I've got a seventy road run at three

532
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Speaker 1: eight three four speed cool Um drive it on the weekends,

533
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: whether permitting up here in the Northeast. You know. It

534
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: doesn't go out in the rain, doesn't go out in

535
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: the snow, doesn't go out once the salt hits the roads. Um.

536
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Speaker 1: When I bought the car, it was it was done.

537
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Speaker 1: It's been basically everything on the car has been redone

538
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Speaker 1: except the electrical system, so you know it takes modern

539
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: fuel and all of that. Um My question is this,

540
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Speaker 1: When I bought the car, guy I bought it from

541
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Speaker 1: was using valveolin VR one s A E fifty traditional oil,

542
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: not synthetic. Why why viscosity? Um, I'm not sure, but

543
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Speaker 1: that's that's what That's what was in it. And when

544
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: I changed the oil, just for continuity's sake, I used

545
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: the same oil. It doesn't leak, it doesn't have any drips,

546
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: it's not burning oil, it's not using oil. But that's

547
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: what was in it. Um. So again, you know, I

548
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 1: drive a weather permitting on the weekend, take it out

549
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: a half hour, an hour or whatever. And during the

550
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: winter I keep it running. You know, I'll start it

551
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Speaker 1: up by run some some duct work out the from

552
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Speaker 1: the exhaust out the back of the garage and I'll

553
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 1: run it, you know, ten fifteen minutes every week, you know,

554
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Speaker 1: just to keep it going. Uh So my question for

555
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: you is, you know what, because that to me, that

556
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: seems like a very very heavy weight oil. So what's

557
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: what's the best oil in your opinion? I know you

558
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 1: you always issue the benefits of Penn's oil. So in

559
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: the case of this, this old forty year old big luck.

560
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, as far as weight and brand, what do

561
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: you suggest? Um? Yeah, I think in an everyday applications

562
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: and I'll aready of applications. I think Penn's Oil has

563
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: got it going on. But I think in your case,

564
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: you're something you're asking for something very specific older. Um,

565
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: what I would consider a vintage hot rod, and I

566
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Speaker 1: would take I would take a real careful look at

567
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: driven racing oil. All right. I've used it from time

568
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: to time and various hot rods. Uh. It used to

569
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Speaker 1: be Joe Gibbs racing oil. Okay. And it's not that

570
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Speaker 1: it's not that I need the term racing. It's just

571
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Speaker 1: that I've read the reports. We've actually interviewed a couple

572
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Speaker 1: of people from Driven Racing Oil, and I can't think

573
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Speaker 1: of the young man's name that is there on tech support.

574
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Speaker 1: It's cam shaft or or something. I for the life

575
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Speaker 1: of me, I can't recall. It's been a while, but

576
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Speaker 1: this guy's a walking univerc in terms of you know,

577
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Speaker 1: oil viscosity. He's got an oil engineering degree. He could

578
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: probably if you can get him on the phone on

579
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Speaker 1: tech support. Um, you know, he could probably explain to

580
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: you what viscot City used and why I just don't

581
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: see where S A E fifty is correct. Uh, you know,

582
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Speaker 1: it sounds too thick. But the nice thing about driven

583
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Speaker 1: and is it's formulated and they actually have I think

584
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Speaker 1: HR four, you know, but they have a bunch of

585
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: different levels. I think HR four has zinc aditive in it,

586
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Speaker 1: and it's you know, kind of what we what we

587
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Speaker 1: would consider old school hot rod oil. All right, Uh,

588
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's just a matter of picking a viscosity.

589
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: But you know, if they're on the web driving racing

590
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Speaker 1: loil dot com and I would sit and talk to

591
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: them and pick their brain. There are others out there.

592
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: They're not the only ones. Um, But I can tell

593
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Speaker 1: you I've dealt with them probably the better part of

594
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Speaker 1: six or seven years. They've always been straight up with me.

595
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 1: I don't feel like they're trying to sell me anything.

596
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: You know, they're just there. They kind of get it

597
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: that it's an older car, that it's somebody's pride and

598
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: joy and just you know, it's not a commuter vehicle.

599
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: It's like, let's take care of it and make it work. Um,

600
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: So I would I would probably go in that direction.

601
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Sounds good. I certainly do appreciate your help. All right,

602
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: so let me know make out Larry, and if I

603
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: you know what, Larry, send me an email Ron at

604
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: Car Doctor show dot com. I'll go back and look

605
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: for my notes. I've got to have his name somewhere.

606
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: And um, this way you can talk. I always like

607
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: to let people talk to the front of the horse

608
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: goes talking to the other end sometimes uh creates an issue. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, alright,

609
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Speaker 1: have a good summer cruising man. I'll talk to you.

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Speaker 1: Eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 1: I'm running any of the Car Doctor. I'm coming back

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Speaker 1: right after this. Welcome back, Why the Car Doctor at

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Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero

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Speaker 1: One more time eight five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 1: nine zero zero The Car Doctors seven toll free number.

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Speaker 1: Also with a messaging service on. I've got Tom Ray

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Speaker 1: standing around twenty four hours, seven days a week saying Hi,

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Speaker 1: this is the Car Doctor radio show. Please leave a

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Speaker 1: message so you keep Tom busy because his wife really

620
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Speaker 1: doesn't want him home anyway, she doesn't really like him.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know he's there, so you can leave

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Speaker 1: a message and get on the show next week when

623
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Speaker 1: we're live Saturday afternoons two to four pm. Um, you know,

624
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Speaker 1: kind of go from there, going back to the previous

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Speaker 1: call Larry from alban If you're still listening, if not,

626
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: all to an email, I just remember what it was.

627
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Speaker 1: You want to try and talk to Lake Speed Jr.

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Speaker 1: He is a certified lubrication specialist at Driven Racing Oil

629
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Speaker 1: and I remember it now. I had never heard that

630
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Speaker 1: term before. He was a certified lobiologist, which you know,

631
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Speaker 1: you think, what the heck is that? But yeah, that's

632
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Speaker 1: what Lake Speed Junior is. A boy. Can that guy

633
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Speaker 1: talk oil? That guy can talk almost as much as me.

634
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Speaker 1: Well not quite, but you get the point. And you

635
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Speaker 1: know it's it's funny because we just had a call

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Speaker 1: about oil. We just got an email about oil. Hey, Ron,

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Speaker 1: I live in Connecticut and I wondering what oil would

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Speaker 1: be good to use. You know, it's funny how one

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Speaker 1: call generates the next. I'm wondering what oil will be

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Speaker 1: good to use in a sixty three forward with a

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Speaker 1: solid lifter cam and what oil would you use in

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Speaker 1: a seventy for with a hydraulic camp. Both of these

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Speaker 1: engines are V eights and they're basically stock, not high performance.

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Speaker 1: Thanks and I do subscribe to your podcast. Vinnie in Connecticut. Um, Vinny, Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, here we are again driven Racing Oil dot Com.

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Speaker 1: You've got two older vehicles. The sixty three four with

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Speaker 1: the solid lifter cam will clearly need an oil that's

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Speaker 1: got z d d P, which is the zinc editive.

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Speaker 1: It's a critical antiwar editive in motor oils that's needed

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Speaker 1: for older vehicles like that. UM helps keep them going

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Speaker 1: longer in maybe it doesn't need it as much, but

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Speaker 1: it could benefit in other areas, so it wouldn't hurt

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Speaker 1: it all. Get yourself out there driving Racing Oil dot

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Speaker 1: Com and take a look at that, and uh see

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Speaker 1: what that does for you, because you know you're looking

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Speaker 1: to take care of these older vehicles. I guess part

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Speaker 1: of what amazes me is, you know, we look at

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Speaker 1: these older vehicles and we're we're kind of grateful to

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Speaker 1: be able to still get oil for him. Um. You

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Speaker 1: know it's I guess we'll always be able to get

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Speaker 1: oil for older vehicles. Uh, you know, but I guess

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Speaker 1: the newer cars we won't be able to get chips.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's It's gonna be interesting. I talked about

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Speaker 1: this all the time. I think about it all the

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Speaker 1: time in my head, like where are we gonna get

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Speaker 1: the parts from? Um? Thank god for older cars, hang

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Speaker 1: on to them while you still ken Well. That about

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Speaker 1: rounds out this hour of the Car Doctor um Life

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Speaker 1: with Ronnie, as we like to call up behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes once again thanks to my executive producer Tom Right,

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Speaker 1: board operator Tony Atwood, Anthony big Tea and once again

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Speaker 1: Jeff Firestone Associate producer. And I'm Brondanian the Car Doctor,

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Speaker 1: reminding each and every one of you the mechanics aren't expensive,

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Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let's see you