Speaker 1: Shallow Internet, and welcome to Season two eighty three, Episode
Speaker 1: three of The Daily Zeitgeist. This is still a production
Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio, and it is that motherfucking podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: April nineteenth. I'm gradually gonna bring my volume higher because
Speaker 1: I do have my son with me. Okay, let's just
Speaker 1: get into it. It's Wednesday, April nineteenth, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: You said, what day is that. I know that as
Speaker 1: four twenty minus one, the day is upon us. But
Speaker 1: it's also National Hanging Out Day, and I think it's
Speaker 1: for people that hang dry their laundry. Shout out all
Speaker 1: the people of color, immigrant people that come to this
Speaker 1: country who don't fuck with dryers, because we hang that shit. Also,
Speaker 1: my mom was like, it keeps the colors looking way
Speaker 1: better when you're not hitting it with the dryer heat.
Speaker 1: So it's also National Garlic Day, Love garlic, secure all
Speaker 1: for everything, National Banana Day, some other shit, a couple
Speaker 1: of states, whatever it is, what it is. My name
Speaker 1: is Miles Gray aka Big Daddy Gray, father of the
Speaker 1: Guys child who is with me in the studio. I
Speaker 1: just want to bring him into the framely quick you
Speaker 1: hear that. This is oh, this is my baby. So
Speaker 1: this is for the people on the call that can
Speaker 1: see him. For the guy's shout hello, say something, yeah, no, okay,
Speaker 1: he's silent. He's silent. That's okay. I don't want to
Speaker 1: I don't want to inspire too much noise out of him.
Speaker 1: But I am doing this podcast with my son in
Speaker 1: my arms because I'm just I'm just trying to do
Speaker 1: it all right now. Shout out to first of all,
Speaker 1: Shout out to all the motherfucking parents out there. This
Speaker 1: ship is a fucking commitment and like I realized how
Speaker 1: quickly I would start sounding like a fucking Hallmark ad
Speaker 1: B being like the real people that dedicate themselves day
Speaker 1: and day out, these parents. Shout out to my parents,
Speaker 1: your parents, and if you're a parent, I fuck with you,
Speaker 1: because this ship is not easy, but very fulfilling. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by my co host with
Speaker 1: the most allow me to welcome. Oh oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: like her too. I know she's a fantastic producer, podcast host,
Speaker 1: film critic, activists. I'll say, just a general person about town.
Speaker 1: Please welcome to the microphone, Joe Elbonies, thank.
Speaker 2: You, Miles and geist Baby, what a lovely.
Speaker 3: Introduction aka Cinema Princess the Lipstick don.
Speaker 2: A DC lover who James Gunn does with that bad bitch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's good to be here.
Speaker 1: Hello, Oh, good to have you. Good to have you.
Speaker 1: And look, let's let's just jump right into it. Our
Speaker 1: guest today is a fantastic podcaster. You may know her
Speaker 1: from her Fantastic Show partition. H was much talked about
Speaker 1: and also one of our first Next Up fellows and
Speaker 1: also a programmer of film festivals, a writer, filmmaker, documentarian.
Speaker 1: I'm running out of hyphens as well for this person,
Speaker 1: so please welcome to the microphone. Our guest today, nehaz Hi.
Speaker 4: What out introduction and thank you?
Speaker 1: He liked that too. When I screamed your name, his
Speaker 1: body just did a whole convulsion. So love it. We
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, how are you? What's new? It's been
Speaker 1: a minute since we've had you on, and I'm sited.
Speaker 4: The podcast is complete.
Speaker 5: It ended in October and like when last time I
Speaker 5: was here, I think it was I think only maybe
Speaker 5: two episodes had come out, so it's been it's been
Speaker 5: a second, and yes, I am going to be a filmmaker.
Speaker 5: I'm making my first film in the summer, shooting in Austin,
Speaker 5: which we luck it's gonna be awful shooting your law
Speaker 5: in Texas in the summer. But yeah, so I'm very
Speaker 5: excited to make my directorial debut at the short film.
Speaker 5: And you know, look out for that crowdfunding campaign going
Speaker 5: to happen next month. You know it's api month two,
Speaker 5: so you know that can be one of your good deeds.
Speaker 1: To help the go. So yep, Well, what is this
Speaker 1: a film that you're writing or you're just directing?
Speaker 4: Writing directing?
Speaker 1: Okay, I just want to make sure because I don't
Speaker 1: want you to tell yourself short. So you're writing and
Speaker 1: directing this? Yes, can you give us a little like inspiration?
Speaker 5: So it's like just like a slice of life story
Speaker 5: between two South Asian characters who haven't seen each other
Speaker 5: in over a decade. They knew each other in college,
Speaker 5: you know, but obviously like life happens and they know
Speaker 5: they're in their early thirties and the female character has
Speaker 5: stayed in Austin since graduating, and the male character has
Speaker 5: has like since moved but is now moving back to Austin,
Speaker 5: and I just kind of wanted to imagine a narrative
Speaker 5: where like two people may have a potential second chance
Speaker 5: at something. It could be a friendship, it could be
Speaker 5: a relationship. It just could be like a random encounter.
Speaker 5: And then I kind of use like the dentrification of
Speaker 5: Austin as a passage.
Speaker 4: Of time and it's slice.
Speaker 5: Of life story dialogue driven just you know, like thirteen minutes.
Speaker 4: Hopefully it won't be a disaster, but no.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 3: I love a slice of life, like the genre in general,
Speaker 3: and I feel like, particularly in America, there aren't enough
Speaker 3: sizes of life there. They're like, what's the point of
Speaker 3: the story to love these characters?
Speaker 2: And the dialogue that was really for your.
Speaker 1: Exactly right, Yeah, there's the robot. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I also want to point out that, like people of
Speaker 5: color have the same struggles too, Like we have trouble
Speaker 5: with our jobs, We have undercomminded love that is not
Speaker 5: unique to white people. It transcends boundaries and backgrounds and
Speaker 5: religions and culture, so we're also regular people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love how yeah whenever there's like those
Speaker 1: are some of the best films too, especially from like
Speaker 1: from an audience standpoint as a person of color, when
Speaker 1: you see those are like, yeah, treat this shit as
Speaker 1: normal rather than trauma porn exactly. Yeah, we'd be buying
Speaker 1: shit too, you know. And some people get our orders
Speaker 1: wrong at restaurants and sometimes we don't want to send
Speaker 1: it back to Okay, we can have little scenes like
Speaker 1: that also without being like and is this a magical
Speaker 1: negro or just a slice of life. We're just regular
Speaker 1: people out here. Well, that's dope, and I can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear more about that back as you get that
Speaker 1: move in, we are going to get to know you better.
Speaker 1: Nah in a second. But first let's tell people some
Speaker 1: of the stories that we're going to be tuning in to. First,
Speaker 1: the NRA convention happened over the weekend, and you know,
Speaker 1: just with the sheer number of shootings that we're hearing
Speaker 1: about from, you know that one young man who was
Speaker 1: shot in the head because he knocked on the wrong door,
Speaker 1: to a twenty year old woman who was shot and
Speaker 1: killed because their car pulled into the wrong house. They
Speaker 1: were like looking for another house or some shit. I mean,
Speaker 1: gun violence is obviously at all time high, but that
Speaker 1: didn't stop the ghouls over at the NRA, So we'll
Speaker 1: just see what the fuck was going on over there
Speaker 1: while all of this terrible nonsense is happening around the country,
Speaker 1: you know, truly at the hands of their lobbying efforts.
Speaker 1: And then we'll make a move on down to the
Speaker 1: state of Florida where Ron DeSantis is taking on the mouse. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's going for like what is his round three or
Speaker 1: some shit, trying to fight Disney because they just don't
Speaker 1: agree with him. We'll just check in with the state
Speaker 1: of that relationship. And we'll also talk about the Joe
Speaker 1: Biden mass conspiracy, because that shit is back where people
Speaker 1: were like, this guy got a mask on and they're
Speaker 1: like showing him scratches like old neck skin. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: an old neck skin be doing that. It's not a
Speaker 1: fucking mass So we will touch on that. But before
Speaker 1: we do all that, got to ask you, Naha Aziz,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 5: So I was living my best life on Saturday night
Speaker 5: and I made pasta and watch the animated film Anastasia.
Speaker 1: They love.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's on Hulu if people want to watch it
Speaker 5: and just have a really fucking great time. And so
Speaker 5: I kind of went through a rabbit hole of looking
Speaker 5: with the legend of Innastasia and like how like she
Speaker 5: actually wasn't missing and they have found like remains and
Speaker 5: just kind of went through there. And then I went
Speaker 5: through another rabbit hole because of that looking at Aliyah
Speaker 5: because she's sang one of the songs from the soundtrack,
Speaker 5: and so then I was looking at the plane crash.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just like went on a bunch
Speaker 5: of crazy things. So this all started with a very
Speaker 5: non accurate film about Anastasia that is so great.
Speaker 4: Do all of this?
Speaker 1: I want to take it point by point. You made pasta?
Speaker 1: What kind of pasta? What kind of sauce?
Speaker 4: I made a vodka pasta? Reggaetoni? Amazing?
Speaker 1: Riggitone okay? And then wait, so I mean I remember
Speaker 1: when Anastasia came out. It was was that like ninety
Speaker 1: four or something like that, Oh, ninety seven, okay, So
Speaker 1: I was like ninety four was usually like when I
Speaker 1: became cynical as a kid, And I was like, that's
Speaker 1: for babies. So what what like? And I saw and
Speaker 1: I saw you Joel too, you jumped up when you
Speaker 1: heard Anastasias. Is that like, is that like a whole vibe.
Speaker 3: Jope is princesses. Here's the thing until Anastasia comes out.
Speaker 3: All princesses are romantic interests. So essentially, except for maybe
Speaker 3: the Little Mermaid, she's kind of got her own, Like Dan,
Speaker 3: She's doing a thing down there because of her romance,
Speaker 3: and so that's kind of like messy. Anastasia is out
Speaker 3: here living in these streets.
Speaker 2: You gotta work hard. It's like a whole struggle for her.
Speaker 3: And then it kind of plays into this like as
Speaker 3: a kid, I really wanted someone to come along and
Speaker 3: be like yo, secret princess who knew oh yeah, or
Speaker 3: like the secret room or like a secret I wanted
Speaker 3: a weird, like giant reveal for my life as a child.
Speaker 3: And so anytime in a movie I was like, this
Speaker 3: is the greatest thing to ever happen.
Speaker 2: The soundtrack Bonker's good.
Speaker 3: It's a great movie, awesome dresses, A plus A plus film, like, yeah, every.
Speaker 4: Song is a banger.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: She has a cute little puppy Puka. I think that
Speaker 4: like follows her around. Also it's rated G, which.
Speaker 2: Which is crazy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, I don't know the NPAA or I guess
Speaker 5: NPA now was thinking because I'm like, I'm looking at
Speaker 5: this stuff at like thirty two and I'm like, this
Speaker 5: is fucking.
Speaker 2: Scary and that little bat are so yes, and.
Speaker 5: I'm like, you feel like bones and like body parts,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, how was this rated?
Speaker 2: G like historical?
Speaker 1: It's probably yeah, rated for gangsters, that's what they were
Speaker 1: thinking back then.
Speaker 5: Probably, But yeah, it was great time Saturday night here
Speaker 5: at my house.
Speaker 1: Right. I love that? And you also evoked at Leah's name.
Speaker 1: You know I got also every time I hear it,
Speaker 1: I want more. Give me some more damn cook up
Speaker 1: some damn ai Aliyah tracks. Please. We were talking about
Speaker 1: this on the show yesterday, but like, I want to
Speaker 1: hear Marvin Gaye, uh, just just body the Weekends catalog.
Speaker 1: I want to hear something like that. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: those are the kinds of things that I'm always like,
Speaker 1: when an artist passes away, You're like, damn, I wonder
Speaker 1: what they would be doing right now with it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't, man, I know she'd be killing it anyway.
Speaker 1: Enough about that, now, what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 5: The trailer for the Idol came out yesterday and I'm
Speaker 5: just like, I don't know, it's just like Leson Man, like, Okay,
Speaker 5: I love Euphoria. I think there's obviously some issues with Euphoria,
Speaker 5: especially Barbie Frere's character. I love Kat and so it
Speaker 5: breaks my heart that she's not going to be in
Speaker 5: the new season. But I totally get why because she
Speaker 5: wasn't getting good stuff and just hearing all the horror
Speaker 5: stories from like their set, and just.
Speaker 4: Like how like what was supposed to be like this.
Speaker 5: Really kind of feminist story kind of turned into like
Speaker 5: torture porn and like anti feminist stuff. So you know,
Speaker 5: like I'm gonna I'm gonna say, like a light overrated
Speaker 5: is Sam Levinson? So yeah, I'm like, I'm the creator
Speaker 5: of that show along with others.
Speaker 4: He took over as the director, but I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was just like all of these shows on HBO
Speaker 5: are getting canceled, so many like POC stories, so many
Speaker 5: things taken off streaming, and then I think this was
Speaker 5: reshot for like millions and millions of dollars, and I'm
Speaker 5: just like, oh, so he just gets a free pass
Speaker 5: to do whatever, but then let's cancel this Chronicles.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's crazy show too.
Speaker 2: It's really good. They didn't give it any kind of chances.
Speaker 3: It's the show that before the Discovery merger happened with
Speaker 3: Warner Brothers, they almost certainly would have been like, let's
Speaker 3: give it another season and see if you can find it.
Speaker 3: Like The Spookies doesn't have a huge audience, but it's
Speaker 3: very impact to its audience people who do show up,
Speaker 3: and it's yeah, to your point, like, you know, we've
Speaker 3: heard a lot of former black and brown executives who
Speaker 3: were let go at Warner Brothers, you know, have let
Speaker 3: us know, like there's an agenda out here to get
Speaker 3: rid of us at this company, which is not surprising
Speaker 3: because they're doing a ton of downsizing and then you
Speaker 3: see where they're spending their millions. It's confusing because after
Speaker 3: they dropped that little scene with the Weekend and Johnny
Speaker 3: Depp's daughter, I was like, is this is this?
Speaker 2: This is what we're doing? This is it this right here?
Speaker 1: Wasn't it like so filled with like really graphic depictions
Speaker 1: of like sexual assault and violence that they had to
Speaker 1: cut it out to be.
Speaker 5: Like a lot of like people on the crew were like,
Speaker 5: this set is like a whole lot to be on
Speaker 5: and it's just like, you know, like what this story
Speaker 5: once was has now disintegrated into like, you know, someone
Speaker 5: okay with being like abused and assaulted for like.
Speaker 4: The music is the understanding that I have.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I was watching I saw that trailer and
Speaker 5: I was just like, yeah, I don't know, like maybe
Speaker 5: I'll be proven wrong, but I was just like, dude,
Speaker 5: like that girl is being exposed left right, center, right right.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I heard that. All right, Well, now let's
Speaker 1: move on to maybe greener pastures. What is something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated?
Speaker 5: I was at a party for my friend's birthday on Sunday,
Speaker 5: and I don't remember the context in which this conversation started,
Speaker 5: but we're talking about like Jurassic Park, Jurassic World, and
Speaker 5: you know, I was saying that Jurassic Park three I
Speaker 5: think is a little underrated.
Speaker 1: Is it true?
Speaker 4: No, it's not ungreat no better than the second one?
Speaker 5: Yes, And like just like one breaks my heart because
Speaker 5: I'm like it is directed by Steven Spielberg.
Speaker 1: Hey, and also got the homegirl Vanessa le Chester in
Speaker 1: there my a Once Day one. She's in that two
Speaker 1: at playing Jeff Goldblum's daughter, So I was she.
Speaker 2: Love that baby.
Speaker 3: She's obviously a full woman now, but back then the
Speaker 3: Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, a little princess which she broke my heart.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, she wasn't a little princess. Another another save
Speaker 5: that speaker Garden. I do love maybe maybe Saturday Night.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's a feature right full.
Speaker 1: Wait, So Jurassic Park three is the one where like
Speaker 1: the Dad they were like doing like a paragliding trip
Speaker 1: and then the pterodactyls like shredded them up and then
Speaker 1: like then she's like I gotta go find my baby
Speaker 1: on the island.
Speaker 2: Right yeah.
Speaker 5: So again not great, but like I'm thinking back to
Speaker 5: like like The Lost World, which is the second one,
Speaker 5: and I'm like Steven Spielberg convinced Michael Crichton to make
Speaker 5: a sequel, which he doesn't do, and then they didn't
Speaker 5: book and then this dinosaur ends up in San Diego
Speaker 5: and whatever, and I was just like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 5: even going to talk about Jurassic but I was just like,
Speaker 5: you know what, Jassic fake. It's a lot of hate
Speaker 5: trust Park three, but I'm like it's really I was like,
Speaker 5: you know, the raptors.
Speaker 4: Take the front center. I was like, yeah, and see
Speaker 4: the meals in this one. And then the second one,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: William, Oh yeah, he's the dad, right, yeah, yeah, the dad.
Speaker 3: And I really like the relationship between like this mom
Speaker 3: and dad who were just so distraught and trying to
Speaker 3: find their kid. And then and the kid's even great too,
Speaker 3: like his whole storyline, like no, I'm an adventure I
Speaker 3: can get out here and like exploring it.
Speaker 2: I was information.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: Jassic Park three holds up much better than we remember.
Speaker 3: It's just it was hard at the time because the
Speaker 3: first one is such a masterclasses. And then for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: probably budget, they were like, the dinosaurs have to look
Speaker 3: as good is the first time. Well, we can cut
Speaker 3: some corners. You're like, but what remember the giant breathing triceratops.
Speaker 2: You guys doing that?
Speaker 1: I know, ABK, we can't do that just for one
Speaker 1: breathing static thing to make the stomach go up and down.
Speaker 2: We need seven puppet asks to pull that off.
Speaker 1: We spent three hundred thousand on fake dinosaur shit, Okay,
Speaker 1: we can't do this against Stephen. That was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite parts in Jurassic Park, when when Ellie just
Speaker 1: gets in that pile of ship with those like elbow
Speaker 1: high yeah and she's like, oh yeah, And I was
Speaker 1: like yo. As a kid, I was like, where'd they
Speaker 1: get all that ship? With that? Being like it could
Speaker 1: have been mud or like any manure industrial industrially bought. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that's from my mind.
Speaker 4: Was you're really like molding that mud?
Speaker 1: I'm like that was probably yeah, that has to be
Speaker 1: real ship. Yeah, they probably just went to like a
Speaker 1: zoom They're like, hey, man, can we get some of
Speaker 1: your ship for this movie?
Speaker 2: Absolutely not maybe noting digging around to real ship.
Speaker 1: Hey if she's about that life.
Speaker 4: Yeah what if she?
Speaker 5: What if she was like this needs to be real
Speaker 5: ship and wants to be like full on like maybe
Speaker 5: she was met that on that sat We don't know.
Speaker 1: She was like, you built this amazing world, Stephen, This
Speaker 1: this whole park, this world in which dinosaurs are alive
Speaker 1: and we're interacting with them, And I just I feel
Speaker 1: like you're really cutting corners with fake shit here. I
Speaker 1: really feel like we just need to do that. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: enough about fake shit. We'll talk about real shit the
Speaker 1: news right after this.
Speaker 6: We'll be right back, and we're back, and the geist
Speaker 6: child stays asleep, and we're very blessed for that.
Speaker 1: Even though I'm screaming in his ear about fake shit.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to talk about the NRA really quick.
Speaker 1: The convention happened over the weekend. Already over the weekend
Speaker 1: there were two mass shooting and it would have looked
Speaker 1: really bad for the NRA. We just hosted their annual
Speaker 1: convention full of presidential hopefuls. I guess maybe if there
Speaker 1: were more shootings. But again, of course they were not
Speaker 1: going to delay it. When there is a mass shooting
Speaker 1: in America, it seems like it happens all the time.
Speaker 1: I feel like they had one right after Parkland also,
Speaker 1: and it was just like yo, the timing anyway, So
Speaker 1: this year's convention was full of just next level evil,
Speaker 1: diabolical or shit. Christy Nome, the governor of North Dakota,
Speaker 1: signed a gun friendly executive order during her speech because
Speaker 1: she is a stunt queen. And then Bragg, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna let I'm just gonna let you hear her talk
Speaker 1: about like her NRA cred right after she's signed a
Speaker 1: terrible like gun bill just so just so the people
Speaker 1: in the back and here you know, this is this
Speaker 1: is how she gets down little.
Speaker 7: Miss Addie, who is almost two in branch who's just
Speaker 7: a few months.
Speaker 1: Old, her grandkids.
Speaker 7: They have brought us so much joy, They brought us purpose.
Speaker 1: I love that she's already bringing up grandchildren. And I'm
Speaker 1: a parent, who I think of how much joy that
Speaker 1: has brought from my kids. Okay, I hopefully she's going
Speaker 1: about that's why we need to protect them and get
Speaker 1: guns away from these little.
Speaker 7: Kids, now, addie, who you know soon will need them.
Speaker 7: I want to read it was she already has a
Speaker 7: shotgun and she already has a rifle.
Speaker 2: Pause, How in the hell is a two year old
Speaker 2: holding a shotgun?
Speaker 1: It was, She's not, she's not.
Speaker 2: The recoil would break her face open. What Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Would be right. I mean again, this is this is
Speaker 1: the kind of non And then she goes hold on,
Speaker 1: but she softens that with this little tidbot too.
Speaker 4: She's got a.
Speaker 7: Little pony named Sparkles too.
Speaker 1: So the girl is oh good, So she's a so
Speaker 1: y'all got horse money and you put guns around your
Speaker 1: two year old baby?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, great, super good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a very interesting I just it's so funny
Speaker 1: when these people go and like have to underline their
Speaker 1: cred with the nra to be like, and I leave
Speaker 1: my granddaughter around loose bullets and guns because that's her right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And people are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the sound.
Speaker 3: Completely ignore all the statistics about how having guns in
Speaker 3: your house making your child is much much much more
Speaker 3: likely to just die by gun violence.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have a niece who's too and I'm just
Speaker 5: like imagining her very cute but truly a terror, like
Speaker 5: imagining her with a gun, and I'm just like, with
Speaker 5: a gun, I was like, she can't avoid sharp edges,
Speaker 5: Like how was she gonna like or like use a
Speaker 5: marker properably right now?
Speaker 4: It's like, how is she going to be?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah'll we fucking load this?
Speaker 1: Like and the gun humps will tell you it's not
Speaker 1: for the baby to use. Now. It's like a family
Speaker 1: thing that you just get for them. It's like a
Speaker 1: college trust fund. It's like, yeah, I gotten for you
Speaker 1: when you were two, so you can use it when
Speaker 1: you're four, six year old?
Speaker 4: Who just used the gun?
Speaker 1: So I'm like yeah at a school.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm just like, well, yeah, so kids accidentally
Speaker 3: shoot and kill their siblings because they had access to
Speaker 3: a gun that was loaded, because loading a gun is
Speaker 3: is a challenge.
Speaker 2: It's not easy to do.
Speaker 3: Children don't have the dexterity to do it. But if
Speaker 3: that safety is off, it takes nothing to just shoot
Speaker 3: a gun. And every kid, I mean playing Cops and Robbers,
Speaker 3: since you had the enough imagination to play a.
Speaker 1: Game, you know what I mean, you could do this
Speaker 1: with your hand, since you could make your fingers a gun.
Speaker 3: So they have no idea, and you know, they have
Speaker 3: no idea, like what their life is worth, what it
Speaker 3: means to die, like, it's just it's horrible to allow
Speaker 3: them access to something that could fundamentally change their lives
Speaker 3: in a horrific way.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, luckily, once we had that wonderful bit
Speaker 1: of information from Christy Nome, we had Mike Pence show
Speaker 1: up the second heat the stage. They just started booing
Speaker 1: because again they all see him as a trader to
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, or at least the people that were booing.
Speaker 1: But you know what's wild. During his speech, and we
Speaker 1: didn't cover this on trends, he did address the problem
Speaker 1: of mass shooting mass shootings, and he actually has a solution.
Speaker 1: Let me just read this quote from him. Quote I
Speaker 1: believe the time has come to institute a federal death
Speaker 1: penalty statute with an accelerated appeal to ensure those who
Speaker 1: engage in mass shooting space execution in months, not years.
Speaker 1: Case closed. Okay, that's his idea, more death, prevent death
Speaker 1: with more death. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I love the idea of being like, so, don't steal
Speaker 3: my rights to have this gun, but your right to
Speaker 3: a speedy and save trial, screw it.
Speaker 2: Who needs it?
Speaker 1: And on top of it, also like, just for the
Speaker 1: morbid fact that many of like more than half of
Speaker 1: mass shooter's quote end up dead at this scene of
Speaker 1: their crime, right, you know, And a lot of experts say,
Speaker 1: when you deal with people that are motivated by ideology,
Speaker 1: punishment is not an effective deterrent. No, because they're not.
Speaker 1: That's not what they're motivated by. But okay, go off,
Speaker 1: Mike Pence. I'm glad you and Karen, your literal wife,
Speaker 1: Karen maybe came up with that over Big Max or something,
Speaker 1: you know. Ben Donald Trump took the stage and he
Speaker 1: absolutely fucking melted my brain with how ignorant everything was.
Speaker 1: First of all, he called himself the most pro gun
Speaker 1: president in history, and he claimed that he would create
Speaker 1: a fucking If he was elected, he would create a
Speaker 1: tax credit to reimburse teachers who want to bring blamers
Speaker 1: into the classroom.
Speaker 2: Blamers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I added that colloquial phrase for guns for a handgun.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. But if hey, if you want to
Speaker 1: bring it, we can give you a tax deduction because
Speaker 1: you should have a concealed firearm in the classroom. And again,
Speaker 1: every teacher with a brain has been saying, we already
Speaker 1: wear nine million hats as teachers. Do not add law
Speaker 1: enforcement or armed security to our list of tasks. We
Speaker 1: already do like we're already we're raising these kids. Not
Speaker 1: to say that like for you, but that's what is
Speaker 1: happening when you go to school. Your teachers are so
Speaker 1: pivotal in your upbringing and your education that like to
Speaker 1: add on top of that, and also I hope you're
Speaker 1: good with the steel too, is just absolutely do and
Speaker 1: it's not multiple.
Speaker 2: Things, multiple things.
Speaker 3: So the very last school shooting had armed guards didn't
Speaker 3: do shit. Did not help because these are some almost
Speaker 3: always semi automatic weapons. So you know, if it's surprised
Speaker 3: I have a gun, it's a semi automatic and I
Speaker 3: can kill you in two point five because those bullets
Speaker 3: do a shit ton of damage.
Speaker 2: What it's not helped.
Speaker 3: It's like it's there's no cognitive process that says this
Speaker 3: is helpful. I spoke to a teacher the other day
Speaker 3: who was going through active shooter drills with their class,
Speaker 3: and they were saying that, like all of the advice
Speaker 3: they're given at the end, there's always a caveat, which
Speaker 3: is an active shooting situation, you have no idea how
Speaker 3: you'll react. So if you run, fine, if you want
Speaker 3: to find a place to hide, okay, there's literally no
Speaker 3: like solid advice other than trying to hide or get
Speaker 3: away as fast as possible. But it's a lone shooter,
Speaker 3: like you don't know where they're gonna be. There's not
Speaker 3: that kind of communication. And beyond all of that, as
Speaker 3: all of us in here are black and brown, people
Speaker 3: have probably had experience with a racist ass teacher. I
Speaker 3: don't want a teacher to suddenly pop off and think
Speaker 3: like Lil Jamal is acting up and needs to be
Speaker 3: taught a lesson in this moment because they're heated and
Speaker 3: frustrated because they don't have enough funding to support their class,
Speaker 3: Like this is just crazy. How many cops in schools.
Speaker 3: If we've seen like body slam children over.
Speaker 1: Literally nothing like this a.
Speaker 2: Huge destentence for many more children.
Speaker 1: Like it's so dumb.
Speaker 2: It's so dumb.
Speaker 3: What if a KNT gets a hold of that gun?
Speaker 3: Like there's it's like there's no cognitive thought around, like
Speaker 3: what happened?
Speaker 1: Real fucking talk? First off, Like I had a teacher
Speaker 1: who I remember, she fucking yelled at me because I
Speaker 1: threw a west Side in a photo and was like,
Speaker 1: I did try to treat me like I was a
Speaker 1: gang member in front of all my classmates.
Speaker 2: Great that your clothes were representing some kind of game.
Speaker 1: I went like this, I just threw a wetaw you
Speaker 1: know we out here, And it was like she fucking
Speaker 1: humiliated me in front of the entire class. If she
Speaker 1: had a gun, I don't know she would have been like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, he's a gang member. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: fucking twelve and the west Side Connection album just came out?
Speaker 1: What the fuck do you want me to do? And
Speaker 1: then also that was me, Like I remember I had
Speaker 1: a teacher busted her ankle when she wasn't looking, I
Speaker 1: grabbed her crutches and I was like fucking dancing off
Speaker 1: and ship. I had another teacher who was like also
Speaker 1: had a leg surgery and had like a like a
Speaker 1: personal like mobility device, like a scooter. You better believe
Speaker 1: I fucking hijacked that motherfucker and was bending corners in
Speaker 1: the classroom and I got in trouble. But all have
Speaker 1: to say is absolutely, there are definitely you know, kids
Speaker 1: are fucking curious and they don't they don't know better anyway.
Speaker 1: But back to Trump's speech, he goes on to say
Speaker 1: that again this very familiar refrain that mass shootings are
Speaker 1: quote not a gun problem, but quote this is a
Speaker 1: mental health problem. This is a social problem, this is
Speaker 1: a cultural problem. It's a spiritual problem. Okay, asshole, And
Speaker 1: what are your mental health, social, cultural, and spiritual solutions
Speaker 1: to this issue? Otherwise, shut your fucking mouth. It's nonsense,
Speaker 1: and it's just you're just hitting people with like a
Speaker 1: very thought killing tidy answer to avoid reckoning with art
Speaker 1: the gun proliferation in this country. And then he goes
Speaker 1: on to suggest again he somehow ties it all together
Speaker 1: with some transphobia, because he said he would order the
Speaker 1: FDA to investigate quote whether transgender hormone treatments and ideology
Speaker 1: increase the risk of extreme depression, aggression, and even violence. Again,
Speaker 1: the depression and things like that come from being in
Speaker 1: a society that is so transphobic, not because of the
Speaker 1: idea you're not you're trying to treat shit like it's
Speaker 1: fucking like religious extremism or some shit. And then he said,
Speaker 1: I think already most of us know the answer, don't we. Okay, Again,
Speaker 1: the vast majority of mass shooters are white. This meant
Speaker 1: the beast majority. Well, but if you're even looking at
Speaker 1: a population share of like what like what percentage transgender
Speaker 1: people make up, it's not enough to be able to
Speaker 1: say that this is even close. So shut, it's just
Speaker 1: like so infuriating that again they're pivoting to this to
Speaker 1: try and motivate more transphobs to have like a take
Speaker 1: that they can you know, go into next Thanksgiving with.
Speaker 3: Well, they have to rile up their base because we're
Speaker 3: seeing like a lot of seeing people starting to be
Speaker 3: like what we're sure the racism and stuff, and you know,
Speaker 3: maybe we don't want our children to be trans. But
Speaker 3: this level of attention, uh and dedication specifically to trans
Speaker 3: people is exhausting and weird. Uh, and not at all
Speaker 3: addressing any of the actual issues I live with daily.
Speaker 1: You know, well, hopefully this I can just point to
Speaker 1: these things of like societal progress as a smoke screen
Speaker 1: to avoid like real substance policy changes. But that's part of,
Speaker 1: you know, maintaining the status quo in this country, unfortunately.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing that Donald Trump came for
Speaker 1: on the eve of four twenty he said, uh, he said,
Speaker 1: the other thing that's leading to mass shootings. It ain't guns,
Speaker 1: it's weed. Stop it genetically he said, it's genetically engineered marijuana.
Speaker 3: Okay, GM marijuana is amazing. How dare he get out
Speaker 3: of here? I love my leaf here, dark and purple
Speaker 3: weed that was hydroponically with GMOs.
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with Donald.
Speaker 1: The try combs. Have you seen the tricombs on these
Speaker 1: buzz motherfucker you idiot? This ship is straight fire, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm this gas now. Also, this was getting.
Speaker 3: High and to start shooting, it's gonna be so much
Speaker 3: confusion and chaos. That's not gonna help you on your
Speaker 3: Mission's smoke a.
Speaker 5: Bole and be like, oh yeah, let me get a gun.
Speaker 5: They're like, no, let me get some taco. Bell that's
Speaker 5: what they're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me down, let me play Ghost of Tushima
Speaker 1: on PlayStation, let me do that shit. But he said
Speaker 1: he will vow to quote get to the sickness that
Speaker 1: we're seeing in our country. I think Baron started smoking weed.
Speaker 1: I think that's where I just came from. He's like,
Speaker 1: what's what's wrong with him? He calls me a dick,
Speaker 1: He called me head ass dad or something. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means. He must be smoking weed or something.
Speaker 1: That feels like where that came from. And then also,
Speaker 1: just like the images from the entire event would also
Speaker 1: make your heart stop because the amount of photos you
Speaker 1: see of like little kids out here just playing with handguns,
Speaker 1: playing with assault rifles that are like again too big
Speaker 1: for their bodies. It's just it's just like so fucking
Speaker 1: just heart It's just disheartening and heartbreaking because again, like
Speaker 1: to your point, being in a house with guns, can
Speaker 1: it exponentially raises your chances of dying by a gun? Anyway,
Speaker 1: Let's move on to another presidential hopeful, Ron DeSantis, who
Speaker 1: is continuing his streak of the worst fucking policy ideas ever.
Speaker 1: Earlier in the week, we mentioned how his biggest donors
Speaker 1: are reaching their limits because even they can see that
Speaker 1: running on a no rights for anyone is not an
Speaker 1: attractive platform, especially for like the very regular everyday American
Speaker 1: and some might say even most people in Florida, despite
Speaker 1: his popularity there. And well, now Ron is living or
Speaker 1: now Ron is you know, really laying his claim to
Speaker 1: the title of dumbest fuck of them all with his
Speaker 1: newly energized attacks on Disney, And we knew, okay, it
Speaker 1: all started when Disney was vocally opposed, albeit a little late.
Speaker 1: I will say to DeSantis' you know, anti LGBTQ legislation,
Speaker 1: he said he might in response to them being like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is fucking trash man, you should change that, he said, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we might have to take a look at your very
Speaker 1: favorable tax situation that the state of Florida has given
Speaker 1: you for decades now and then will Disney, because they
Speaker 1: are a massive corporation and they're the master of the
Speaker 1: dark arts of capitalism, they got their army of lawyers
Speaker 1: to skull fuck DeSantis and the state by making their
Speaker 1: lordship over their special tax district basically permanent, or at
Speaker 1: the very least until Kate and William's last child dies,
Speaker 1: and then twenty one years after that, they put a
Speaker 1: royalty clause into the fucking into the bill to be like,
Speaker 1: this is how long we'll be running this shit without
Speaker 1: your interference. So now DeSantis is big mad and he's
Speaker 1: talking a big game, and even his flunkies in the
Speaker 1: state legislature are They're now being like, all right, that's it,
Speaker 1: We're gonna fucking destroy Disneyland. In room one of this
Speaker 1: is State Rep. Carolina and a MESSI said it's time
Speaker 1: for Disney executives to have a sober conversation and retake
Speaker 1: the company from the radical ideologies that have hijacked it.
Speaker 1: You are in the business of entertaining children and families.
Speaker 1: You are not in the business of social re engineering
Speaker 1: or promoting radical political ideologies. And if you think you are,
Speaker 1: we have good news for you. As our great governor
Speaker 1: has said, Florida is a place where woke goes to die. Good. Look.
Speaker 3: Wow, imagine attacking one of two things your state is
Speaker 3: known for and being like, we got to get rid.
Speaker 2: Old people move there to die.
Speaker 1: I think Florida.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's Disney World, and that's where old people
Speaker 2: go to die.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's all I ever think about.
Speaker 3: Maybe Miami will cross my mind, but I'm not a
Speaker 3: Miami girl.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not the city where I go to party. I
Speaker 2: just think it's.
Speaker 1: Wait, where do you go to party?
Speaker 2: Where would I go to party? Chicago? People enjoy dancing
Speaker 2: to music.
Speaker 1: I love all white. You don't wear all white white.
Speaker 3: I don't like going to any place where the idea
Speaker 3: is to be seen, right, Like when I.
Speaker 1: Went to club, I mean, everybody.
Speaker 3: Is standing around and the DJ seems half interesting in
Speaker 3: this job.
Speaker 2: That's not fun for me.
Speaker 1: The DJ is playing a pre recorded set list. Let's
Speaker 1: be real, he's acting like that's all cap up. Therefore
Speaker 1: it's a pre recorded mix. Anyway. Let me so to
Speaker 1: your point, right, why the fuck would you go after
Speaker 1: Disney World? But here again, here's Ron DeSantis, who you
Speaker 1: can tell he's like at that point where this is
Speaker 1: really interesting too, because for all the things that he's
Speaker 1: been able to navigate as governor or controversies, he's been
Speaker 1: able to like, you know, get what he wants because
Speaker 1: he's in a state that is the Republican has just
Speaker 1: control over every single chamber of consequence, and like, right,
Speaker 1: now he's clearly he seems frazzled because he doesn't really
Speaker 1: have a good way to like counter. He's just like, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we're gonna have to take away your tax exemption.
Speaker 1: And everyone's like what And he seems a little so
Speaker 1: listen to him now, really talk about He's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I got some ideas.
Speaker 8: So if you look at this whole special District, well,
Speaker 8: Disney Corporation obviously owns a lot of it, but the
Speaker 8: district owns other lamb. You know, quite frankly, I wasn't
Speaker 8: even thinking about that, lamb. This was not something that
Speaker 8: was really important one way or another. We just wanted
Speaker 8: them to live on the same rules. Pay the debt,
Speaker 8: pay the taxes, all that stuff. Oh but come to
Speaker 8: think of it, now people are like, well, there's what
Speaker 8: should we do with the slam and so you know,
Speaker 8: it's like, okay, kids, I mean people have said, you know,
Speaker 8: maybe maybe have another maybe create a state park, maybe
Speaker 8: try to do more amusement parks.
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, your first idea is to build a
Speaker 1: competing theme park next to fucking Disney World. Okay, yeah, buddy,
Speaker 1: but that wasn't even that wasn't even the bad idea.
Speaker 1: I'll just to there. I'm like, yeah, yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: build a competing fucking theme park. Ask Universal Studios how
Speaker 1: that's going.
Speaker 8: Someone even said like, maybe you need another state prison.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 8: I mean, I just think that the possibilities are.
Speaker 1: Are what the fuck? So his thing is, oh, y'all okay,
Speaker 1: so y'all don't fight fair, I'll build a fucking penitentiary
Speaker 1: next to the place where people bring their kids from
Speaker 1: all over the fucking world and country. It's just like
Speaker 1: a very like what what does he think? Already he
Speaker 1: has donors fleeing because they're like, man, your position on
Speaker 1: abortion is so fucked up, Like there's no way even
Speaker 1: me as a goony gop mega donor, is like I
Speaker 1: can even tell that is not the fucking way to
Speaker 1: get into office, Like you got to know where actual
Speaker 1: people are and to be like the place where people
Speaker 1: aspire to go on vacations to. You want to completely
Speaker 1: fucked And I'm not trying to hear I'm not caping
Speaker 1: for the sanctity of Disney World. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: does he even have any idea of like the financial
Speaker 1: impact on his own fucking state. If he's trying to
Speaker 1: tear that shit down. Probably yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: There are one hundred and twenty eight state prisons in Florida,
Speaker 3: fifty major institutions, fifteen annex is, seven private facilities, which
Speaker 3: are contracts for private facilities overseen by the Florida Department
Speaker 3: of Management and Services. Twenty work camps. We have to
Speaker 3: go back and analyze more what that means later, three.
Speaker 2: Re entrance, two road prisons.
Speaker 3: Forestry camps, and one basic training camp. There are twenty
Speaker 3: one million people that live in Florida, so per million people,
Speaker 3: they have a prison.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, but hey, maybe they need another one, and
Speaker 1: that'll teach this need a to side with the rest
Speaker 1: of society to be like yeah, like eight is not
Speaker 1: like not even a good business model. And we're fucking Disney,
Speaker 1: We're cheap as shit. We're not trying to fucking next
Speaker 1: to a place.
Speaker 3: Called the Happiest place on Earth that provides so many
Speaker 3: tourism dollars for the state of Florida. Again, Republicans for
Speaker 3: a very long time have built their foundation off of hate.
Speaker 3: It's a really easy way to say, hey, you know,
Speaker 3: we'll gather our white supremacist base.
Speaker 2: That'll be good.
Speaker 3: We'll trick some other people into joining us and you know,
Speaker 3: appropriate the model minority myth and it'll be great.
Speaker 2: They always do this.
Speaker 3: There's like no cop through line of like how does
Speaker 3: this long term help us? It's just constant, like small
Speaker 3: burst of rage and you're like you want to do
Speaker 3: this because you're you can't just recreate another Disney experience
Speaker 3: like that is so many years in family history and
Speaker 3: like you can't buy that kind of promotion.
Speaker 2: You can't replace it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he's trying. He's trying, but you know what,
Speaker 1: not possible. So okay, I just want to make sure.
Speaker 1: So Joel, you say, not a good plan to try
Speaker 1: and be the face of being the destroyer of Disney World.
Speaker 1: He's not a good plan. Just want to check in.
Speaker 1: Not a good time, right?
Speaker 3: You feel like Floridians, you know, if there anything like
Speaker 3: Californians who are you know some people are like the
Speaker 3: guys a friend who's like, that's my home, Like they
Speaker 3: moved around so much as a kid. They were really poor,
Speaker 3: but every year their parents got enough money to go
Speaker 3: to Disneyland and that is their their space.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I can't imagine being like this is
Speaker 3: really going to help my campaign, Like it's going to
Speaker 3: be so good if I go after the people who
Speaker 3: made childhood classics for literally everyone alive. They're not a
Speaker 3: person alive who didn't grow up with some sort of
Speaker 3: Disney movie.
Speaker 1: All right, Nell, what about you? Where are you at?
Speaker 1: If you're a consultant, you ton rond to sant this
Speaker 1: great idea, Ron? Or No, I would say.
Speaker 4: Great idea if like I would say a great idea
Speaker 4: if I think like, yeah, this is fucking stupid, and
Speaker 4: I want to see.
Speaker 5: What it's like for you to pitch this idea.
Speaker 1: But yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah, well this is
Speaker 1: wild too, because anyway, right after that press conference we
Speaker 1: said maybe we'll bring up we'll build a prison, Disney
Speaker 1: clapped back immediately, like immediately, like milliseconds within that press
Speaker 1: conference ending, and they just said, Hey, we're announcing our
Speaker 1: first Pride Night ever. Yea, all ready for that? Hold
Speaker 1: that Ron now turning it up.
Speaker 3: Okay, you know what's crazy. As a queer person, this
Speaker 3: is very irritating. It took so long for them just
Speaker 3: to get like gay pride like pins in the park,
Speaker 3: and then they had like pride nights. So they were like, listen, adults,
Speaker 3: if you want to come out at night and be
Speaker 3: like with you lovers, Okay, it's fine, but let's really
Speaker 3: keep the children out. Well, we're only going to do
Speaker 3: it in California because y'all are real, like pro the
Speaker 3: queers out here, so we feel pretty safe. We're not
Speaker 3: going to do it in Florida. And just the other
Speaker 3: day my friends were like, oh, so they're not going
Speaker 3: to do Pride in Florida.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. I think it's just going to
Speaker 2: be a California thing.
Speaker 3: I'm excited for every queer person in Florida because it's
Speaker 3: nice to have spaces and support. If you're a person
Speaker 3: who visits Disney frequently, you know, you're probably aware of
Speaker 3: the company and their track records and things. But man,
Speaker 3: it really can be the happiest place on They're not
Speaker 3: really good at what they're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: It's so fun.
Speaker 2: It amount of fun at Disney.
Speaker 3: They got the dope rides, they got the good parks,
Speaker 3: like performance spaces. If you go to the right restaurants,
Speaker 3: you can get good food research before you go. They're
Speaker 3: not all the same, So I'm glad that they can
Speaker 3: go and just cut loose.
Speaker 1: This whole thing though, has put us in a thing
Speaker 1: where we're like, who do we pick in this fight?
Speaker 1: Fascist or by via corporation, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then and at the same time we're like, we
Speaker 1: hear about the struggle of working at the fucking park
Speaker 1: and how difficult that is and how little they want
Speaker 1: to pay people there, and only now like starting to
Speaker 1: like up the pay and we're still like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: way to go with that clap back, but you only
Speaker 1: you're only doing Pride Night as a way to like
Speaker 1: antagonize this governor, not because it came out of the
Speaker 1: goodness of your heart. But that's the capitalism duty. You
Speaker 1: you know, we got a few evils.
Speaker 4: It's like.
Speaker 1: For the Disney Corporation man, which by the way, I
Speaker 1: was going to say, like, you know, Disney doesn't have
Speaker 1: They're not innocent at all because off Mike. I know,
Speaker 1: last week we were talking about just the the casting
Speaker 1: of like the Lelo and Stitch live action movie and
Speaker 1: how we're suddenly seeing like the people look a little
Speaker 1: bit different that I'm seeing than the depictions in the cartoon.
Speaker 1: Now again, I like I said anything after ninety four.
Speaker 1: Good chance I have not seen it if it is
Speaker 1: as like a Disney product, But I know, Joel, I
Speaker 1: know you definitely have feelings about it.
Speaker 3: How far they're really far off, and I mean in
Speaker 3: every conceivable way. So when Lelo and Stitch comes out,
Speaker 3: it's a revelation, not just because it's a modern Hawaiian family,
Speaker 3: all dark skin, all with indigenous features, but it's also
Speaker 3: taking to task the separation of Indigenous children from their
Speaker 3: families and the ways in which the government does not
Speaker 3: support at all, Like, you know, these families, if they're
Speaker 3: you know, if they're poor, if you know Leelo is
Speaker 3: being raised by her older sister after their parents pass.
Speaker 3: It's really hard for her not and works really hard
Speaker 3: to try and keep a great place, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: you have enough money. Oh Leelo's acting up in school.
Speaker 3: The best thing to do would be for us to
Speaker 3: take her from the only family she knows, which is Bananas.
Speaker 3: And so the film, in a very child friendly way,
Speaker 3: explores you know what that fear is, and it is
Speaker 3: a fear that we are seeing a huge resurgence in
Speaker 3: across indigenous communities across the United States, especially right now
Speaker 3: as they're trying to pass laws that allow people basically
Speaker 3: to just steal their children. And I think colorism is
Speaker 3: a huge problem in the casting. We're seeing a lot
Speaker 3: of people and I want to just really quickly highlight
Speaker 3: we're not questioning anyone's indigenous status.
Speaker 2: That's not at all what this is about.
Speaker 1: Sure, this is about polarized which.
Speaker 3: These are folks who could either pastor write, or are
Speaker 3: much lighter skin or have Eurocentric features. They can be Indigenous,
Speaker 3: they love their communities, they can be active members of
Speaker 3: their communities. But there are not dark skinned Indigenous people
Speaker 3: on TV that often. And when you have a set
Speaker 3: film that is a classic that means a lot to
Speaker 3: a lot of people, it is so disheartening to then
Speaker 3: be like, we're doing a live action and we're not
Speaker 3: going to give any of the performers who look like
Speaker 3: this in real life an opportunity to bring these.
Speaker 2: Characters to life. That's frustrating.
Speaker 3: On top of that, they're removing that core element of
Speaker 3: government coming in and trying to take children unjustly by
Speaker 3: making the woman who it used to be a black
Speaker 3: guy who's like part of CIA and very like buttoned up,
Speaker 3: Now it's a woman who is indigenous and you know,
Speaker 3: like but not stealing their children from themselves, Like this
Speaker 3: is not the calculations are not working here, like the
Speaker 3: storyline falls apart.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the important like all the important things
Speaker 3: that resonate for folks who have now passed, like a
Speaker 3: lot of my generation who have children have passed this
Speaker 3: movie down to their kids and they're like, I don't
Speaker 3: want to take you to see this movie because it
Speaker 3: doesn't represent all of the things that it was revolutionary
Speaker 3: for crafting.
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, it's frustrating, man.
Speaker 1: What's your relationship to it?
Speaker 5: I mean, I love Leelan Stitch. I have a stuffed
Speaker 5: animal Stitch and leel not with me. But I did
Speaker 5: have one uncle who worked for Disney, and so I
Speaker 5: would get like a great Disney's Towards discount.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm like.
Speaker 5: Joelle was saying about like that family who would like
Speaker 5: always traveled at Disney, Like like we would always go
Speaker 5: to Disney because it was like more accessible to us
Speaker 5: because we could go for free because of my uncle.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like I love this film.
Speaker 5: That's I think that's actually where I first found out
Speaker 5: who Elvis was, because I think I was like ten
Speaker 5: or eleven, Yes, when the movie came out. So I'm like,
Speaker 5: you know, and like I'm an immigrant. My parents are immigrants.
Speaker 5: They are not like passing down like Beatles records and
Speaker 5: shit to me, you know, like whatever. You know, they
Speaker 5: came to the US with like two kids in eight
Speaker 5: suitcases and like they're not going to pack like records
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, right, right, Yes, I think that's
Speaker 5: where because I had the soundtrack and I remember like
Speaker 5: listening to the soundtrack.
Speaker 4: But yeah, like I just hate that.
Speaker 5: It's like we should just be satisfied with representation, but
Speaker 5: I'm just like it needs to be representation within the
Speaker 5: correct like context.
Speaker 4: So it's just like it's just like, yeah.
Speaker 5: Again, no one is questioning these people's talent or something
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: But it's just like but and.
Speaker 1: It's not on them, you know either.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope that they don't have to like answer
Speaker 4: for that.
Speaker 1: If you were the acts that you would say, here's
Speaker 1: the thing that like, it's also looked. It's also hard
Speaker 1: as like a poc actor something to get on. So
Speaker 1: I get that there is a conundrum for that person
Speaker 1: who's so yeah, I this she could set me up.
Speaker 1: But also on other side. It does feel like, man,
Speaker 1: you may you man, I don't know if this I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm really the one for this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Soudana playing Nina Simone's it's like, yeah, this
Speaker 3: is not Orlane.
Speaker 2: You must have the stage left.
Speaker 5: I'm so sorry for Scarlat Joyntson, who can play whoever
Speaker 5: she wants.
Speaker 1: She's an Asian. And Emma Stone too, you know, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know we got to shut out to all of
Speaker 1: our Asian icons out there.
Speaker 5: But yeah, but I think it's just like, you know,
Speaker 5: to me, like it is just like whitewashing, you know,
Speaker 5: So I just kind of like, you know, I never
Speaker 5: watched The Aladin Passion, but you know I did notice that,
Speaker 5: like there's not that many people of like darker skin
Speaker 5: that were cast, you know, and.
Speaker 1: Weren't they saying they were blacking people up.
Speaker 4: To I mean, I wouldn't be surprised or.
Speaker 1: Something I heard. I heard the makeup that may have
Speaker 1: been questionable at the time.
Speaker 3: I know about that, but it definitely was Again, just
Speaker 3: a color is an issue. It's just like it's not
Speaker 3: hard to cast dark skinned people.
Speaker 2: You can do it.
Speaker 3: I believe in you have all of the power of
Speaker 3: Disney behind you, you get access to literally any performer.
Speaker 3: It makes me nervous because I don't even think they're
Speaker 3: gonna have Lelo beat that white girl's ass.
Speaker 2: And that's my favorite part of the movie. Then she
Speaker 2: takes the little girl to task.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, lessons and yeah, oh yes, yes.
Speaker 3: She's called saying a bunch of racist shit as she
Speaker 3: gets told off, as she gets beat and then Lelo
Speaker 3: gets in trouble with you again, is a banana saying
Speaker 3: to happen. Leela is standing up for herself on her
Speaker 3: native land. Let her beat that girl's that ask she
Speaker 3: needs to learn, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Fuck around, find out that's one of the first lessons
Speaker 1: we need to teach kids. Oh yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: it's truly something else. And yeah, I think we're we'll
Speaker 1: always be up against trying to figure out like when
Speaker 1: people who are in like making the decisions are like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: do the thing that is the most accurate rather than
Speaker 1: the habits of being like it's the whiter things do better.
Speaker 1: Even though that is even McKinsey's out here telling you
Speaker 1: that's wrong, like.
Speaker 4: He's like a non white story.
Speaker 5: But like we're gonna but it's still going to be like, oh,
Speaker 5: people who like, your skin isn't dark, but it's like,
Speaker 5: but it's Hawaiian so it's fine whatever, And I'm like, no, and.
Speaker 1: Look for directors who are like, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: darker skin is just difficult to shoot. Look, the people
Speaker 1: who made Insecure handled all that for you. They revolutionaries
Speaker 1: like how to properly light and shoot darker skin, So yeah, or.
Speaker 4: Hire people who know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hire people who know how to do that,
Speaker 5: like just like makeup artists and like hair stylists who
Speaker 5: are just like I've read so many interviews with black
Speaker 5: actresses where they're just like, they don't know how to
Speaker 5: do my hair, and then they end up doing it themselves,
Speaker 5: and I'm like, that's not how that's supposed.
Speaker 1: To go, right, No, And at the very least, be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's your date rate for as a hair stylist that
Speaker 1: we're adding to your performer rate at the very least,
Speaker 1: because yeah, we fucked that up. Sorry, All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back to talk
Speaker 1: old Joe Biden neck skin right after this. And we're
Speaker 1: back and just got to touch on this the latest
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory Jujuur for the far A. There's a video
Speaker 1: that's been going around of Joe Byron when he went
Speaker 1: to Ireland recently, and apparently in this clip, fucking conspiracy
Speaker 1: theorist like this is irrefutable proof that Joe Biden is
Speaker 1: dead and it is actually an actor portraying him wearing
Speaker 1: a hyperrealistic Joe Byron mask. Okay, sorry, case closed the video.
Speaker 1: The whole thing, this whole gotcha moment is based off
Speaker 1: this clip where Joe Biden is scratching the back of
Speaker 1: his neck and they're like, oh, man, in this video,
Speaker 1: they're like, look at it. This guy the tweets is
Speaker 1: the actor playing Joe Biden reveals his mask. You're watching
Speaker 1: the most complex military campaign that has ever been waged
Speaker 1: in world history. Be proud, stanty. Anyway, it's like a
Speaker 1: whole QAnon thing again.
Speaker 2: Wow wow.
Speaker 1: So what they're saying is that the skin wrinkle behind
Speaker 1: his neck was like moving around too much, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that shit too loose. So it's clearly a silicone mask. Again,
Speaker 1: this is not a new theory. There are people who
Speaker 1: claim that Jim Carrey might be one of the actors
Speaker 1: who plays Joe Biden. Because I don't know because he
Speaker 1: wore like because he was in the mask.
Speaker 4: Over here, because I've actually never heard this theory.
Speaker 1: Oh it's wild. And dude, Jim Carrey even he came
Speaker 1: out and he was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: one of like he was evening like, yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, I'll be playing him right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think once.
Speaker 4: But he was also in the masks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was in the mask. But also if you
Speaker 1: remember in Living Color his character Fire Marshall Bill, that
Speaker 1: ship actually looks like Joe Now to me, so I
Speaker 1: don't know my own head, I get it. I would
Speaker 1: putting that together.
Speaker 4: I think that was that was before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that definitely was. Yeah, that definitely was a
Speaker 1: bit maybe a bit ahead of your time. But yeah,
Speaker 1: just search Fire Marshall, Bill, Jim Carry and you will
Speaker 1: see Joe Biden.
Speaker 4: I just wanted to.
Speaker 3: Leave occagenarians alone. Did y'all see the recent Jack Nicholson article.
Speaker 1: No, what happened with John Nicholson?
Speaker 5: They're just making fun of you, just honest about making
Speaker 5: fun that just commenting about how he looks like he's
Speaker 5: just like living his life.
Speaker 4: He was out on the balcony and people are like, oh,
Speaker 4: what the fuck.
Speaker 3: Like Cygniceable in a shovel, I dropped the leak in
Speaker 3: the chat so you can see. But he literally just
Speaker 3: looks like an eighty six year old man who went
Speaker 3: outside to stretch for a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they just leave them alone. He's eighty
Speaker 2: eighty six. Just let this man live.
Speaker 1: They want to talk all this shit, but like, where's
Speaker 1: that smoke for the fucking politicians that are making decisions
Speaker 1: about legislations that are this damn old you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. You got Diane fin like, uh yo, look hello,
Speaker 1: and I thought we were trying to let these people
Speaker 1: go off into the sun and said and go to
Speaker 1: Florida and shit, But yeah, how old is he? He
Speaker 1: looks good?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm just like I'd probably look like that when
Speaker 5: I'm sixty, Like I always forget to wash my face
Speaker 5: with makeup. I'm gonna look at that like just.
Speaker 1: Like this is how like most like conservative gen X
Speaker 1: men look in their middle age, Like so why come
Speaker 1: for for Jack Nicholson like this? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know anyway, So the whole body double thing, it's
Speaker 1: not just on the right, because remember when people are
Speaker 1: like Blania got a body double two and that was
Speaker 1: like a whole thing. Like a lot of people like
Speaker 1: democrats are you know, occupy democrat type people on Twitter
Speaker 1: were like, got you? It's like shut up man, she's
Speaker 1: she wears a wig like all the celebrities. Okay, that's what.
Speaker 2: You saw, right.
Speaker 1: The other thing is what's really interesting is like jam
Speaker 1: our writer's pointing out, it's like it kind of might
Speaker 1: have something to do. Oh, what's what's wrong? What's the wrong? Guys? Child?
Speaker 1: You don't like this story about fire Marshall Bill being
Speaker 1: our president? Well it's too late. That's what it is
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of stories about how like the
Speaker 1: masks from Mission Impossible. Okay, you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: the fucking Ethan cruise shit, like those masks that they
Speaker 1: are like an increasing number of stories that are talking
Speaker 1: about how these masks are like real or like being
Speaker 1: close to like available in our real life. Here's one
Speaker 1: from seeing at hyper realistic masks can fool us just
Speaker 1: like in Mission Impossible. Uh huh. Here's another one from
Speaker 1: like another website of the Conversation. Hyper Realistic masks are
Speaker 1: extremely hard to spot, as our new research shows here's
Speaker 1: another one and from the UK University of York study
Speaker 1: finds Mission impossible masks can fool police and airport security.
Speaker 1: So there's this kind of information out there. But meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the CIA, and I'm willing to believe the CIA when
Speaker 1: they say this, they say, these masks aren't fucking full
Speaker 1: in nobody. They don't move the same way. I don't
Speaker 1: know what the fuck y'all are talking about. It won't
Speaker 1: even animate in the same way as human skin, but
Speaker 1: go off and yeah. So it's just really interesting that
Speaker 1: their people are like, I don't know, man, those Mission
Speaker 1: impossible masks could really be a plus his loose old
Speaker 1: neck scan. Then like, what about Mitch McConnell. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, he got to talk about his loose
Speaker 1: neck skin. You know, you got you might have you
Speaker 1: might have three mass ridiculous, I know. Anyway, So you know,
Speaker 1: to bring up a film that we've brought up before,
Speaker 1: it could just be that the movie Dave with Kevin
Speaker 1: Klein may have just primed like an entire generation of
Speaker 1: people to accept that a president could just casually be
Speaker 1: replaced by a look alike and run the country.
Speaker 2: But you know that's that movies are not real life folks.
Speaker 1: No, no, but look as much as I there is
Speaker 1: part of me though. If that technology came out, I
Speaker 1: would love to I want to see those, Matt. I
Speaker 1: want to try it on because it's always funny, like
Speaker 1: in the movie how when they will put it on,
Speaker 1: like it takes a second for it to adjust and
Speaker 1: then it turns into their skin, but then they can
Speaker 1: take it off in like one second. I'm always yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I was always fascinating.
Speaker 4: I would like to stay away from those as.
Speaker 1: Much I would me. I would be like a white
Speaker 1: guy and go do some weird ship.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you want to get trade a lot better,
Speaker 4: that's true. Actually we should all do that.
Speaker 1: We should all do that. We're a white ma and
Speaker 1: then and go protest and then go protest and then
Speaker 1: create the like there are millions of white allies out there.
Speaker 1: We're outnumbered and they're like this poc were in those
Speaker 1: missions possible funny.
Speaker 2: Actually actually I'm going to do the same, and the
Speaker 2: er is going to do the same.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're gonna see some dude out there with
Speaker 1: like with like Kyrie Irving's face on, and it's going
Speaker 1: to be like yeah, and you know, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I think Rohnda Santis is a fantastic candidate for the
Speaker 1: black community, although who knows, Kyrie might not be too
Speaker 1: far off from actually saying that himself. Anyway, that is
Speaker 1: going to do it for this edition of the Daily
Speaker 1: Naha Disease. Thank you so much for joining us. I
Speaker 1: really appreciate you coming on and joining us. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you and follow you, support you and all that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you can find me on Twitter at Nahazzi's
Speaker 5: thirteen and on Instagram at Nahasi's and you can find
Speaker 5: my podcast Partition as Partition Podcast on Instagram and nineteen
Speaker 5: forty seven pod on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Right, And for people who don't know Partition, just give
Speaker 1: them like the brief pitch for people who aren't up
Speaker 1: on your show, because it's a fantastic, fantastic show for
Speaker 1: a part of history we don't really talk about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like, yay, let me actually talk about what
Speaker 5: this shows. But yeah, so I created a show Partition
Speaker 5: under the Next Up program and it is about the
Speaker 5: partition of India and the formation of Pakistan. And it
Speaker 5: had its seventy fifth anniversary last year. And you know,
Speaker 5: it's not a part of history that's really talked about
Speaker 5: too much. Usually it's just kind of like a one
Speaker 5: sentence thing about Gandhi and like that's kind of it.
Speaker 4: But you know, like, you know, millions of people died.
Speaker 5: It was one of the largest forest migrations, and we're
Speaker 5: still facing a lot of the effects of what happened
Speaker 5: seventy five years ago today. Like you know, Indian guess
Speaker 5: On has such a tumultuous relationship to each other, and
Speaker 5: you know, they're still fighting quite a bit, and a
Speaker 5: lot of that, you know, most of it is dated
Speaker 5: back to partitions. So I interview some family members, I
Speaker 5: needview survivors, I interview filmmakers and just like other people.
Speaker 5: So trying to kind of make sense of like this
Speaker 5: event and how it continuously shapes our lives.
Speaker 1: All because a British lawyer was like, I'm gonna draw
Speaker 1: a line right down the middle here, how does that work?
Speaker 5: Okay, And it was like, let me do this in
Speaker 5: five weeks and then get the fuck out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically I have no idea what that means with
Speaker 1: people that live there, but this this looks good from
Speaker 1: my perspective. Yeah, it's a really fantastic show. I want
Speaker 1: to really encourage people to check it out. Now, what
Speaker 1: is a tweet or some other work of social media
Speaker 1: that you're liking?
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm going to talk about dinosaurs. So there
Speaker 5: is this Twitter account that I stumbled upon called but
Speaker 5: with Raptors.
Speaker 2: And it's fucking amazing.
Speaker 5: It's very like the best thing I've seen and I
Speaker 5: don't even know how long. So like they take like
Speaker 5: a movie or maybe some other form of media and
Speaker 5: they replace.
Speaker 4: It with the veloci raptor.
Speaker 5: So they have one from like Citizen Kane when he's
Speaker 5: making this like beach and it's just like a where
Speaker 5: like the poster is behind like but it's like a raptor.
Speaker 5: And then like instead of orson Wells, it's a raptor speaking.
Speaker 5: And then they have one from a marriage story where
Speaker 5: like they're Scarutor Hansen and what's his name, Adam Driver
Speaker 5: are fighting and he like punches the wall, but Adam
Speaker 5: Driver's a raptor and it's so fucking good, and I
Speaker 5: just like I was just like on it for such
Speaker 5: a long time, and then they like that was just
Speaker 5: a good one. Head singing in the rain, so instead
Speaker 5: of Gene Kelly, it was like a raptor, like like
Speaker 5: walking around with.
Speaker 1: The umbrella and baby raptor.
Speaker 4: That would have been maybe they've done that.
Speaker 1: I don't know they've done they did that.
Speaker 4: They did, Oh you're looking at us?
Speaker 1: When the second you said it, I'm like, I'm looking
Speaker 1: it up right.
Speaker 4: No, this is fantastic.
Speaker 5: They had uh Ryan God bring Barbie but it was
Speaker 5: like with a wrapper and it was.
Speaker 4: For hunting.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love this And Joel Monique, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us today. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you?
Speaker 2: Follow you?
Speaker 1: And what's the tweet that you like?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yea call me all over the internet at it's j
Speaker 3: O E l E m O n I q u
Speaker 3: e uh. Twitter has been a hellscape of torourism and
Speaker 3: horrifying gun facts. So I switched it over to Instagram.
Speaker 3: A channel that gives me so much pleasure and just
Speaker 3: a delight and sucks up way too much of my time.
Speaker 3: Is carpet cleaning asmrs Ooh oh my.
Speaker 5: God, I saw that too, and I like spent like
Speaker 5: twenty minutes watching those videos of just like cleaning stop.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're so amazing.
Speaker 3: So what happens is they bring in rugs that are
Speaker 3: beyond filthy like someone probably took them outside them in mud.
Speaker 2: They're horrifyingly caked with dirt.
Speaker 5: Yeah them until imagine like the Jurassic Park pile of
Speaker 5: shit and then someone throwing a like a rug on
Speaker 5: that and.
Speaker 1: Whoa exactly exactly and.
Speaker 3: Then they clean it like thirty seven times in a
Speaker 3: time lapsed video until it looks like you could buy
Speaker 3: it at a story brand. It's incredible, mesmerizing, mesmerizing content,
Speaker 3: so wholesome. I worry about how much water they're using
Speaker 3: as a Californian, But other than that, I really enjoy.
Speaker 1: Watching these say not as much as it takes to
Speaker 1: grow these damn almonds, I'll tell you that much. So
Speaker 1: that's so that attention really needs to be going, what
Speaker 1: the why are we still growing fucking almonds here? And
Speaker 1: then we can go down the list. But god, golly,
Speaker 1: as my grandfather would say, golly, what's going on the water?
Speaker 1: I know, baby, I know you hate water waste. Also,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray. You can also find Jack and I on
Speaker 1: our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad, Boosti's and Sophia,
Speaker 1: Alexander and I are back with four to twenty day fiance,
Speaker 1: but rather than talking ninety day, we're actually we had
Speaker 1: to catch up with the discourse on Love is Blind,
Speaker 1: so you will hear our pikes.
Speaker 4: Love is playing yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm one episode in and I'm like, what the I'm
Speaker 1: already seeing a lot of interesting shit developed that I
Speaker 1: feel that is going to get interesting season progresses, so
Speaker 1: tune in for that. A tweet that I like is
Speaker 1: from Ellie kremandahal at Ellie creamandall k R I am
Speaker 1: he and d A h L tweeted, can you explain
Speaker 1: the gaps in your resume? Response? Yes, that was when
Speaker 1: I worked really weird jobs that I don't want you
Speaker 1: to know about. Yeah. Yeah, I would do the thing
Speaker 1: where I made up one company during that period where
Speaker 1: that my homie could just pretend was like the reference
Speaker 1: for and it was like, yeah, yeah, he was the
Speaker 1: manager for those years.
Speaker 3: All those jobs I worked for free, I just put
Speaker 3: them down like they're paid gigs I made free. You're
Speaker 3: not calling anyone from there, It's totally fine.
Speaker 1: No. It was like, yeah, I was a unit production
Speaker 1: manager on a free thing. But don't worry, we're acting
Speaker 1: like that paid.
Speaker 3: The experience counts okay, I've been getting paid.
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