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Speaker 1: Never Told You production by Hearty, and welcome to another classic.

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Speaker 1: We are easing into the new year with this one,

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Speaker 1: which is why do you cry when people ask if

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Speaker 1: you're okay? Because I feel like this comes up for

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Speaker 1: me a lot at the New Year, when you're hanging

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Speaker 1: out with people you haven't seen for a while and

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Speaker 1: they ask you a completely innocent question and for some

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Speaker 1: reason you're like, oh, no, I don't want to know. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I also have another version of it that I

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Speaker 1: noticed in myself a lot over this holiday, which is

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Speaker 1: I want to come back and do another Monday mini

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Speaker 1: on this, which is almost the very quick, clearly stressed no,

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Speaker 2: Oh you shouldn't ask because it could be problem. We

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Speaker 1: Yes, but we hope that all of you listeners are well.

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Speaker 1: We would love to hear what you are up to

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Speaker 1: in the new year, what you would like us to

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Speaker 1: do more of, But in the meantime, please enjoy this

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Speaker 1: classic episode. Hey, this is Addie and Samantha. I welcome stuff.

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Speaker 1: I never told you objective ByHeart Radio, and today it

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Speaker 1: is November fourteenth, twenty twenty four. I had to think

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Speaker 1: about it, and uh, I've I thought, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: game plan of how we're gonna deal with the fallout

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Speaker 1: of the election episode wise here on the show, especially

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Speaker 1: with the holidays coming up. So if things feel a

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Speaker 1: little uneven, please just bear with us. We are people

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Speaker 1: to yeah, which speaking of I was just curious about

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Speaker 1: this because we are I mean content warning. We are

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Speaker 1: talking about the election a little bit, uh, but not really.

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Speaker 1: We're mostly talking about why do you cry when people

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Speaker 1: like ask if you're okay? And two, I guess I

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Speaker 1: was telling Samantha I can always tell what I wrote

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Speaker 1: an outline, and I was thinking about something very specific

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Speaker 1: so it's not some kind of like takedown in any way.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I have to sometimes I'm worried people

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Speaker 1: who know me listen to this and think I'm like

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Speaker 1: talking directly to them, and I'm not. And I feel

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Speaker 1: like a lot of times the argument can be has

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Speaker 1: been used about this, especially after an election, especially after

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Speaker 1: But anyway, I think it makes sense that you when

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Speaker 1: people ask if you're okay, you cry, And that was

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