1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: From Campsid Media and iHeart Podcast comes a new true 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: crime podcast hosted by me Sean Flynn. 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 2: Here's birds right here, and the house is going to 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: be able to laugh, but drive slowly because it may 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 2: maintains in the last thirty years. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: This is Gabriel Ortiz Gabe. He's a cop. In fact, 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: he's one of the highest ranking law enforcement officers in 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: the entire state of Texas region Chief Texas Department of 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Public Safety. We're looking for a house. It could have been. 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 2: Okay, go up a little further. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: I think it's We're in Brazoria County. It's on the 12 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Gulf Coast, south of Houston. 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 2: I want to say that was. 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Two oh four. I think this is it. Yeah, We've 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: stopped in front of a beat up little bungalow on 16 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: a street of other beat up little bungalows. This one's 17 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: a greenish yellow, the color of an over boiled egg yolk, 18 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: and there's a fat stripe of mold near the foundation. 19 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: We're staring at it as if it's a clue, as 20 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: if some grimy secret might come leaking out of it. Nothing, 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: that's okay, because this isn't surveillance. It's not part of 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: an ongoing criminal investigation. Instead, Gabe is doing some historical reconnaissance. 23 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: He's retracing the steps of a criminal he used to know. 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Not a bad guy, just one who did a lot 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: of things over a lot of years that weren't legal. 26 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: He was kind of a big deal in Missouri County 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: in some circles anyway. And he was shot to death 28 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: in January of twenty twenty three. His name was Larry Ortiz, 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: and he used to live in this little house Gabe 30 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: did too. Larry was Gabe's brother. The who of the 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: murder has been solved. The man who pulled the trigger 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: has already pleaded guilty and been sent to prison. But 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: still this might be the most difficult case of Gabe's 34 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: career because of the question it raises. How did two 35 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: brothers raised by the same parents in the same place 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: at roughly the same time end up leading such fundamentally 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: different lives. For years, Gave believed he knew why, believed 38 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: he knew the reasons everything happened the way it did, 39 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: and he believed he knew Larry. But everyone keeps secrets. 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: This season on The Brothers are Teas, I guess you 41 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: can kind of say, the whole street world opened up 42 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: to him with me at all opened up to him. 43 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 2: Don't you ever fucking do that in front of me again. 44 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 2: He's like, bro, He's like, we just we're just out 45 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: here hustling. 46 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: When we started making it, the money was coming in. 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: Bought a car for everybody, bought the house you only 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: he shot and almost killed him money and you're just 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: now telling me this. 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: He was the head of this gang and nobody was 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: going to tell him what to do. My dad had 52 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: a whole another life that we never knew about. 53 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 2: All his much shots would always come up every time 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 2: I would google his knee. Things were not going to 55 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: be the same. Things were going to start changing. And 56 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: maybe this is the spiritual side of me felt like, 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 2: did he know that his time was coming to an end? 58 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: Listen to The Brothers or Tie starting December tenth on 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.