1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: Wow. Hey then, everybody, it is Thursday, June two. Welcome 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we're not planning 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: to retire anytime soon. It's me your man, nam G 4 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Marcus Grant alongside Michael F. Florio, producer Randy at the controls. 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Uh no guests today. We're gonna keep it kind of 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: tight and uh and and simple. Got some stuff to 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: talk about. Uh, it's uh, you know, it's it's June. 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Things are not quite as exciting. We're gonna play a 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: kind of modified game of hype trainers smoke screen. We're 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: gonna talk about some some news, some some decent news 11 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: that has happened over the last couple of days. And uh, Florio, I, 12 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: I know you have been away. How is your how's 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: your trip to the East Coast? Man? It was fun? 14 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: It was It goes by quick. Uh. And then I 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: have another trip next week to the East coast, so 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: that one I'm sure the flight is not gonna be 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: and then I've won the week after that. I'm very 18 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: bad at planning trips and uh, I kind of smushed 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: them all together. But I had a good time. I 20 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: got to see some family that I haven't got to 21 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: see in a long time, so that's always good. Or 22 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: maybe you're good at planning trips because you just like 23 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: basically kind of have almost sort of one long trip 24 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: with you know, with a chance to come home and 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: change clothes basically. So I don't know. Um, you know, 26 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna do this at the end of the show, 27 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: but I feel like it's a it's it's a perfect 28 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: chance to do this. Right at the top of this show, 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: I know that you were taking some heat on social 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: media about some of your running back ranking, specifically the 31 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: fact that you still believe in Christian McCaffrey. You've got 32 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: him like number three overall, You've got him ahead of 33 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry uh. And I know the people were not 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: happy about that. So I'm going to open the floor 35 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: and give you the chance to explain your reasoning here. Yeah, so, 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:53,639 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey UM has never been a bad fantasy player 37 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: as long as he has lived. Right, Like, the last 38 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: time we saw him healthy for a full season, he 39 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: had the second greatest fantasy season we've ever seen, behind 40 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: only two thousand six Ladinian Thomason shout out to our coworker, UM. 41 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: But since then, he's been injured. But when he plays, 42 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: he's still gonna give you well over twenty points. He's 43 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: gonna give you more than likely thirty points. Like two 44 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: years ago, he played three games, but he averaged thirty 45 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: Fantasy points per game. This past year, uh, he was 46 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: averaging over eighteen, but that's because he left early in 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: a couple of games. He's the best running backs since 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: in Fantasy since uh, and he and Patrick Mahomes are 49 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: the only players to average over eighteen Fantasy points in 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 1: each of the last four seasons. So he is absolutely 51 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: elite when he is on the field. Uh. The only 52 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: thing that people keep saying about him is well, he 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: can't stay on the field, And that's where I disagree 54 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: with them because I look at it, um, like, Christian 55 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: McCaffrey is a running back, and running backs naturally have 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: a higher injury risk. And if you look at the 57 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,799 Speaker 1: injuries that Christian McCaffrey has suffered the last couple of years, 58 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: it's not like he suffered anything that is a long 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: term Like he hasn't broken his foot and eats surgery 60 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry did. He hasn't you know, had the 61 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: same injury, Like if this guy was pulling his hamstring. 62 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: Every time we saw him, I'd be like, Okay, yeah, 63 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: we can't trust him. But he rolled his ankle, that's 64 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: a common football injury. He sprained to hamstring, he hurt 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: his a C joint in his shoulder. Those are all 66 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: separate injuries, and they're all very common running back injuries. 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: So my point of view is, uh, running backs already 68 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: come with a heightened injury risk. It's just the nature 69 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: of the position. So if I'm going to invest a 70 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: first round pick on a position that comes with a 71 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 1: higher injury risk, then I want the guy who has 72 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: been the absolute best at it, and I'll put Taylor 73 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: and Ekeler ahead of him because I think those guys 74 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: are a little bit safer. But after that, I I 75 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: think it's hard to make the case for any running back, 76 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: especially Uh. Like you said, Marcus, I got I took 77 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: heat for Derrick Henry. But Derrick Henry is two years 78 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: older than Christian McCaffrey. He has over five hundred more 79 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: career touches than Christian McCaffrey, and he broke the middle 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: part of his foot and had to have Jones fracture 81 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: surgery on it, whereas Christian McCaffrey last year sprained his 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: ankle and pulled his hamstring. To me, one of those 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: injuries is much more scarier about having a long term 84 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: effect than the other. But because of you know, the 85 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: last two years, everyone just immediately thinks Christian McCaffrey can't 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: stay healthy. To me, I think it's trying to make 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: sense of something that is just very random, and that's injuries. 88 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: I think that's that's important to the fact that it's 89 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: random injuries and their injuries to two different things. Like 90 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: you said, it's not like he has repeatedly pulled a hamstring. 91 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: It's not like he has you know, hurt the same 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: knee over and over again. So I think that's worth mentioning. 93 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: I think it's also uh interesting to talk about. Look 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: it part of part of how you win and at 95 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: fantasy and and you know, we're not the only ones 96 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: who say this is sort of taking some big swings 97 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: and maybe taking risks where other people don't. And I 98 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: think there's that risk, there's that fear that we've seen, 99 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: and I think it's sort of been priced into his 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: a DP a little bit, which is why you're seeing 101 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: him generally go later in the first round. I'll say 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: this after after Jonathan Taylor and Austin Ekeler. I don't 103 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: really have a clear number three. Um. You know, I've 104 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: I've been okay with Derrick Henry there, I've taken Nagee 105 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: Harris uh that high at some point. So I don't 106 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't have a clear third. And so I think 107 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: if you can, if you can compartmentalize the injury risk, right, 108 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: if you can kind of put that aside, then I 109 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: don't see why you can't make a strong case for 110 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey at three. Obviously it's June. We're gonna argue 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: about a lot of things, um and I and I understand, says, 112 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: I understand the fear. I understand the concern. Um. But 113 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to what a lot of people 114 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 1: have said to me. Uh. You know, I think it's 115 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: my or old friend Bob Harris who who said you 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: know your injury prone until you're not. Um And and 117 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: all it takes is one good season of Christian McAffrey 118 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: coming back and playing fifteen, sixteen, seventeen games again and 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: suddenly that fear goes away. Uh. This is a guy 120 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: who had played sixteen games every year up until the 121 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: last two years. So I'll ask you this though, any 122 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: concern that because of the injuries the last couple of years, 123 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: that maybe the Panthers don't use him as much this year, 124 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: I actually other people are making that argument, and I 125 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: actually think you can make the case that it that 126 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: would help Christian McCaffrey because he was playing of the 127 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: snaps every single game and other running backs hardly, and 128 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: I think he was the only one over at one 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: point last year if I'm remembering correctly, and like that 130 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: is such a wear and tear on his body. So 131 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: if they're taking him off the field at certain points 132 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: then maybe for you know, uh, down to four man 133 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: or someone like that, then it it it puts less 134 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: pressure on his body. And if you even if you 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: take away a handful of carries away from him in 136 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: between the twenties, those are so low valuable touches, like 137 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: one carry for four yards is point for fantasy points. 138 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: Is he suddenly not gonna start seeing you know, seven, 139 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: eight nine targets a game because his running ability is 140 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: never what makes Christian McCaffrey the best fantasy player. It's 141 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: the fact that he'll give you, you know, anywhere between 142 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: fifty and a hundred rushing yards in a game, and 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: then he'll give you close to a hundred receiving yards 144 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: on like eight catches, so you're getting wide receiver one 145 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: numbers out of him. As long as he continues to 146 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: see that high number of targets, which the Panthers have 147 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: come out and said, we do not plan on taking 148 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: him off the field and passing down situations like that 149 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: is why he is the highest paid running back, because 150 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: he's that good at that. As long as he sees that, 151 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: and if he sees the one thing I will say, Mark, 152 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit worried if they'll start using bigger 153 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: foreman on goal line carries, because if they do that, 154 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: then that obviously hurts Christian McCaffrey's value a little bit. 155 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: But if you just take away a handful of those 156 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: low value touches and you know, on on the panthers 157 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: on side of the field, I don't think that's really 158 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: going to to have a big effect. But I will 159 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: say this, Marcus, I have him ranked as my RB three. 160 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: I would draft him as the third running back on 161 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: off the board. But if you said I, I don't 162 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: feel comfortable about any of these running backs. I'm gonna 163 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: take Cooper Cup or Justin Jefferson or Jamaar Chase. I 164 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: have no issue with that at all. I really am 165 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: Mormon up to taking a receiver in round one. I 166 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: was in a draft just a couple of days ago 167 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: where Cooper Cup went number two overall. Um, and yeah, 168 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: you know, like when I first saw, I was like 169 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: and then I was like, yeah, like the gift of 170 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: that lady exactly. I was like, well, yeah, yeah, you 171 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: know it was it was kind of like that's like 172 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: really like I love but that I can I can 173 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: get behind that, so that that makes sense. So um, yeah, 174 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. Basically, I think it sounds like 175 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey is being tasked with trying to save Matt 176 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: Rule's job in Carolina. Like, you know, we're just gonna 177 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 1: legit with touches. You work your magic, and you helped 178 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: keep this coaching staff intact. That's your role for this year, CMC. 179 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: Good luck Oho. I will say this, Um, you know, 180 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: maybe the the NFC South isn't. I mean, look that 181 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: the Bucks are by far the best team in the division. 182 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 1: After that, there are there are questions that need to 183 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: be answered, So, um, yeah, I don't know. I don't 184 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: know where I was going with that because the Panthers 185 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: are not a playoff team, so I don't really know 186 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: completely where I was going. They might be a second 187 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: place seeven that division maybe maybe, but that could be 188 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: like a six or second win t right, exactly? All right, Um, 189 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: let's get to some of the the news that happened 190 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: in the last week basically since we since we talked 191 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: to you guys. The big one coming officially just a 192 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: couple of days ago. Um, Rob Gronkowski has announced his 193 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: retirement again from the NFL. This is after eleven seasons 194 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: playing mostly with the Patriots, but a couple of years 195 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers as well. He is calling it quits now, 196 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: minds you he called it quits before and then Tom 197 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Brady basically was hit him with a text that said 198 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you up. And then Grant came running back to Tampa. 199 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: So we'll see if this happens again. You know, if 200 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: Tom puts out the call, does does Gronk come running? 201 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: But for now, Gronk is retired. So usually when a 202 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: notable player retires from the NFL, notable offensive skill position 203 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: player retires from the NFL. I always like to ask 204 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: the question whether or not that player is a Fantasy 205 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. In this case, that question is ridiculous 206 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: because I think there's there's no doubt in anybody's mind 207 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 1: that Grank Gronk is not only just a regular Hall 208 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: of Famer, but he is certainly a Fantasy Hall of 209 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: Famer as well. So then I pivot to the question, then, 210 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: is he the greatest fantasy tight end we have ever seen? 211 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 1: I think so. I I will say, you know, when 212 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: I started playing fantasy, Tony Gonzalez was more on the 213 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: end of his career, so if you want to make 214 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: the case for him, I won't debate it too strongly. 215 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: But uh, Gronk, I mean, just since his second season, 216 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: these are his fantasy finishes amongst tight ends in points 217 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: per game one one to one to eight, one nine, 218 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: sixteen three. So even like last year, Gronk was one 219 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: of the very best tight ends in football playing at 220 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: thirty two years old. Like I get it, He's had 221 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: to goat thrown to him the whole time. Injuries were 222 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: always a concern for him. So maybe that puts Gonzalez 223 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: ahead of him. But outside of Tony Gonzalez Marcus like Kelsey, 224 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I guess deserves in the conversation. I think Gronk is 225 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: long surpassed Antonio Gates. Like that becomes the other question, like, 226 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: if it's not Gronk, then who is it? Yeah, I 227 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: think that's that's stata part. I mean, if Kelsey can 228 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: can somehow sustain this for a few more years, then 229 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 1: maybe he vaults himself to the conversation. I think Tony 230 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Gonzalez is probably the only other person that really has 231 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: a significant claim to it. I did think Antonio Gates, 232 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know, although say that I 233 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: had a friend we were in a league together, and 234 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: his motto was if you can't get Gates, then wait. 235 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: That was his whole drafting philosophy when it came to 236 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: tight ends, and look, it worked for years, right because 237 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: you know Antonio Gates was was a beast um. But 238 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: I do think I think, hands down it's probably Rob 239 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: Gronkowski is the greatest Fantasy tight end ever. With a 240 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: battle at number two between Travis Kelsey and Tony Gonzalez. 241 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: But I mean, look at at at Gronk's peak. I 242 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: feel like at one point there was a conversation about 243 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 1: maybe drafting him number one overall, like that's how dominant 244 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: he was. It never happened. It never really I don't 245 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: think it ever really turned into anything other than just 246 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: you know, off season chatter. But the fact that it 247 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: was even offseason chatter at all speaks to how dominant 248 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: he was at his peak. And that is even as 249 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned a guy who throughout his career dealt with injuries. 250 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: This is a guy who dealt with back injuries going 251 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: back to college in Arizona. That's part of what caused 252 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: him to fall a little bit in the draft. People 253 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: were just worried about his back and his health and 254 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: and yeah, it did flare up at times throughout his 255 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: NFL career, but he still played eleven seasons at the 256 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: highest level. Um, you know, we're obviously talking about him 257 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: in terms of his offensive production, uh, catching the football, 258 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: scoring touchdowns, because that's what we do. But let's let's 259 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: not overlook the fact that he was also a great 260 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: blocking tied in and and did a lot for the 261 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: Patriots uh in the running game as well with what 262 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: he was able to do as a blocker. So this 263 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: isn't just talking about him catching the football and giving 264 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: us Gronk spikes, which he did for many, many years. Um, 265 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: but you know just what he did overall in the 266 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: game of football. So congrats to you. If this is 267 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: really the end of Rob Gronkowski, congratulations on an amazing career. 268 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: Now you can go and I don't know, live your life. 269 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: Not that he wasn't living his life before Florida, know, 270 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: I mean this dude like lived the best life from 271 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: the beginning. But now he has nothing but time to 272 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: go on like Gronk bud light cruises and shoot commercials 273 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: and do whatever happy, go lucky thing makes him happy. 274 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: Now we've probably seen the last of that one commercial 275 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: that we would see every other commercial break last season, 276 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: so that that might be a good thing, that is, 277 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, So I don't saw. Um. David Ortiz, 278 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, tweeted out congratulations to Gronk on on the 279 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: end of your career. But he also included a commercial 280 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: that I guess they did back in Like I suspect 281 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: this was regional because it's it's it's David Ortiz, Big 282 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: Poppy and Rob Gronkowski. It's a commercial for Duncan no surprise, 283 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: you know, being in the Boston area. But they're singing 284 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: some like R and B type song where it's like 285 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: they're all dressed in white and Gronks at a piano 286 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: and David Ortiz is like singing in Spanish. I don't 287 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: see this thing. At once we're done recording, I'm gonna 288 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: go watch this because you gotta go. I'm I think, yes, 289 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: I will drop it and when we're done with this, 290 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: I'll drop it in slack so you and Randy can 291 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: see this. It's hilarious at the sixty second commercial about 292 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: Duncan where like it's it's big poppy singing in Spanish 293 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: and and Gronk playing a piano. Uh, it's gold, It's 294 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: absolutely gold. Um. But all right, let's let's actually spend 295 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: this back to football though, and um, if assuming Gronk 296 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: is not coming back, there are still a whole bunch 297 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: of guys in Tampa that are gonna look to play 298 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: a full season. We know Tom Brady is going to 299 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: be back, Um without Gronk there. Admittedly he was not 300 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: necessarily the focal point of their passing game, but he 301 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: did contribute to them. With him gone, who stands to 302 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: benefit the most? Do you feel like I think Mike 303 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: Evans Um. I think Mike Evans is already um, he 304 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: was already there number one, but his target share has 305 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: definitely gone down with Tom Brady because Tom Brady was 306 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: spreading the ball out so much. But you look around 307 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: and if there's no Gronk, I'm still speculating markets that 308 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: we may see Gronk it's some point this season, but 309 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: but who knows. Um, But if there's no Gronk, Gronk 310 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: was evans biggest target threat in the red zone and 311 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: in the end zone, and we know that's where Mike 312 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: Evans makes his living. So I think it boosts well 313 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: for him. Plus no Antonio Brown anymore there. Russell Gauge 314 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: is also going to be a benefactor there. Because this 315 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: is against speculation on my part, but Chris Godwin had 316 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: a c L surgery in January for a team that, 317 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: let's face it, they don't They're not worried about winning 318 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: games in September. They're worried about winning the last game 319 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: of the year and what's probably the Goats final season. 320 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: So I think they'll take their time with Chris Godwin, 321 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: and if they do that, that's gonna mean a ton 322 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: of volume for Mike Evans and Russell Gauge and low 323 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: key Cameron Brad, who is now the number one tight 324 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: end there. I think the Bucks were maybe caught off 325 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: guard because they let O. J. Howard walk. They really 326 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: didn't do a whole lot to replace any of the 327 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: tight ends that they lost, so break just for being 328 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: on the field so much. With Tom Brady, Will probably 329 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: had a good amount of targets, especially in the red zone. 330 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: We know that is where, uh, where Brady likes to 331 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: feature his bigger targets. So Evans and Brad stand out 332 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: to me is the two that could lead this team 333 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 1: and end zone targets. Yeah, definitely Evans. I I am 334 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: big on Russell Gauge this year, and I've been saying 335 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: it for a while because, uh, you'll still you'll certainly 336 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: see more targets Mike Evans way, but with as you mentioned, 337 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 1: Godwin still kind of recovering, and I would imagine they're 338 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna take it slowly with him. You know. At the time, 339 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: I was, you know, thinking about this and sort of 340 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: writing about it earlier this offseason, Gronk hadn't officially retired, 341 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: he was still undecided, but with him potentially not being there, Uh, 342 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: and look, I don't think you can discount when it 343 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: comes to Russell Gauge, the fact that he was personally 344 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 1: recruited by Tom Brady. I mean he got the phone 345 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: call after just before free agency opened, with Tom Brady saying, hey, 346 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: I wanna you know, I want you to come to Tampa. 347 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: To the point that I think I believe I remember 348 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 1: Gage thought it was a prank call, you know, like 349 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: he's a phone call saying it's Tom Brady and he's like, yeah, 350 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: sure whatever. Um so I think he stands to to, 351 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, have a really quick start to the season. Now, 352 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: once Godwin comes back, I think a lot of those 353 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: targets will go his direction again. But um I think 354 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: you know, they'll figure out how to spread it around. 355 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: I want to get in on Cameron Braid. I just 356 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: don't know that there's gonna be enough there for him 357 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: to be consistently relevant. Uh yeah, I don't know. I 358 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: don't love. I think Brad is a good like second 359 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: tight end, like if you don't get one of the 360 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: elite tight ends and you're like, I like my tight end. 361 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: But I want to back up, like there's a there's 362 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: a group of like upside guys and I would probably 363 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: slide bright behind like like behind like IRB Smith, Albert Oh, 364 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: those young guys. Yeah, I definitely love I love Smith, 365 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: I love Albert. Oh. I'm you know, I'm trying to 366 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: tell myself to get back in on Cole Command. I 367 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:48,959 Speaker 1: know everybody loves Cole comment this year, Um, I just 368 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: worry about that offense as a whole, so that that's 369 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: sort of makes me a little cooler on him. But 370 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: there are a lot of young tight ends that I'm 371 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: interested in. I said this to myself yesterday and I 372 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: try not to say this out loud, but is it 373 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: possible that tight end is deeper this year? I think so, 374 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: And I know it sounds gross to say, but I 375 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: have like Dallas got it ranked as like my eleventh 376 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: or twelfth tight end, and I'm like, WHOA like that? 377 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: Because to me, there's now I think five like high 378 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: end options, and Andrew's Kelsey, Pitts, Waller Kittle, Then I 379 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: like Schultz, Arts, Hockinson, Goddard. Then there's Knox and and 380 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: Gasecki and Friar. Move like, some of those guys are 381 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: going to disappoint, But I think the approach should be 382 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: either get one of the top five or six, depending 383 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: how you feel about Dalton Schultz, and if you miss 384 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: out on those guys, just take, you know, whatever it 385 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: falls back to you, and then take one of these 386 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: upside tight end two's, like like we were saying, NERF. Smith, 387 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:48,479 Speaker 1: Albert oh Cole, commet any of those younger guys and 388 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: just hope that one of them hits. Yeah. I've actually 389 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: found myself in some weeks drafting two guys. Or I'll 390 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: get one of the top guys early and then I'll 391 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: just circle back around and later I'll grab one of 392 00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: these other guys just in case, you know whatever, just 393 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: pad myself against injury or if one of these turns 394 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: out to be a breakout, because you know, who knows, 395 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: maybe you can, you know, use that to your advantage 396 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: later on in the season. UM Ronald Jones wasn't Tampa, 397 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: now in Kansas City. He says he's looking forward to 398 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: quote a one to three punch in the chiefs backfield, 399 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: and that to me felt like a one to three 400 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: punch to the gut when I read that. Um, but 401 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: you know, it appears that this is going to be 402 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: the situation. Clyde Edward de Laire is there they bring 403 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: in Ronald Jones, they resigned Jerick McKinnon. Obviously, I say obviously, 404 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: but all signs point to Edward de Laire being the 405 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: lead back in that backfield. Does this change the way 406 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: you feel about c e Ch hearing this from Ronald 407 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: Jones or were you already sort of locked in to 408 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: to where he is? Anyway? Uh? It? I might Okay, 409 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: I'm kind of locked in, but not really on c H. 410 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: My My opinion is it all depends on his draft costs, 411 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: like if he can I said it on a podcast 412 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: a week or so ago. I saw him going in 413 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: like the seventh round of a Best Ball draft, and 414 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: if I could get him in that round as my 415 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: RB three or something like that, I'm okay taking a 416 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: shot on him. I also think it's okay to take 417 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: a shot on Ronald Jones, who's going it's like an 418 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: RB four or later sometimes because I think ultimately it's 419 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 1: your You may want a piece of this offense, and 420 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: potentially if one of those running backs went out, it 421 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: could be a big value in fantasy. But if you 422 00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: have to start paying a premium price and calling your 423 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: shot on which one of it you think will step 424 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: out in this backfield, then I'm I'm fine just leaving 425 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: it aside and saying I will not have any of 426 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: the Chiefs running backs roster this this year. But right now, 427 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: at least in the early best ball drafts that I'm doing, 428 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: their their draft costs is so low that I'm like, 429 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: all right, I'll take a shot on this guy, but 430 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: if he starts to get pulled up, then I'm out. 431 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: And Jerk McKinnon Loki scares me because I really want 432 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: c h to to get all the targets there for 433 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: the running backs. Yeah. See the thing about McKinnon is 434 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna be one of those guys and I need 435 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: to come up with a term or we need to 436 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: come up with a term for these guys who are 437 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: They're not they're not fantasy relevant, but they will do 438 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: enough to to wreck somebody else that's potentially on your roster. 439 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Flies in the ointment, I guess would be the best. 440 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 1: The best way to describe them, right, because you're not 441 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: gonna draft jerk McKinnon. You're not gonna really count on 442 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: him to do anything for you. But if he's getting 443 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: on the field on third downs, if he's getting on 444 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: the field and hurry up situations and potentially taking targets away, 445 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: then that does hurt whatever, you know, whatever investment you 446 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: have made in a guy like Clyde every Delaire. I 447 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: I still I have drafted I'm not gonna lie to you. 448 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm still a bit of a homer and I still 449 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: have drafted Ronald Jones. But mind you, it's it's late, right, 450 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm drafting Ronald Jones in like the ninth round, the 451 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: tenth round, something like that, and he's well down my 452 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 1: depth chart. I'm not counting on him, but in case 453 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: he finds a role in this offense, then I have 454 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: him there potentially. Um I said, I think I saw. 455 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: I think I when I look at Fantasy Football Calculator 456 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: yesterday as I was putting this together, Um C h 457 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: was a fourth round guy, and that to me was 458 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: venom high, right, But I think I think he was 459 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: the the RB twenty there. I think when I looked 460 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: at Fantasy Pros, he was the RB twenty four, and 461 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: both of those just felt really high for me at 462 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: this point. Uh, this is even before I even factored 463 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: in like the the one to three punch in this offense. 464 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: That just I don't know. Maybe I'm because I've been 465 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: disappointed by by c H the last couple of years 466 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: that I just I can't really get in on anything 467 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: like that at this point, um any but so so 468 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: basically you're you're, are you you know McKinnon, you out 469 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: on mchinnic or is it just really believe that depend 470 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: on the price. At this point, I think McKinnon is 471 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: what you said. I think he's more of a real 472 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: life nuisance than he is a fantasy value. Like he 473 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,719 Speaker 1: had two good games with the Chiefs last year, but 474 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: his last good game was like five years ago before that, 475 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: So maybe it's like a last round dart throw. But 476 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: I'm more interested in watching where Jones and c H go. 477 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: And it's like you said, like if it all comes 478 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: down to calls, Like if Ronald Jones is going later 479 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: and you could take a shot on this offense, there's 480 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: like a nine tenth round pick. I think that's fine 481 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: to take him. I just don't want to it to 482 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: be a position markets where they're both getting pulled up 483 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: and you have to choose which one, because if that's 484 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: the case, I'm choosing neither to choose none. I am 485 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: saying from voting. If that's uh that's going to be 486 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: the case. A little bit more running back news down 487 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, James Robinson says he's quote not trying to 488 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: rush his return from an achilles injury that happened late, 489 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: very late last season. Um. I don't know that there 490 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: are any expectations for him to be around during training 491 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: camp for the preseason, but the Jaguars are holding out 492 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: some hope that he could be available for Week one. 493 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: That's I say, could that is a possibility? Uh? You know, 494 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: when I was reading the story the the name that 495 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: came up was Cam Akers and his incredibly fast return 496 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: from an achilles injury. I don't know that that. I 497 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: don't know if that's a fair expectation to put on anybody, um, 498 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: because that was just that was so remarkable what Acres did. Uh. 499 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: So I don't know that I would put that on 500 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: James Robinson. I do think we will see him back 501 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: at some point this season. Um, which makes him you know, 502 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: I think draftable and a lot of late you know, 503 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: late draft situations and a lot of leagues. But what 504 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: what level of expectations do you have for him production 505 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: wise this year? I I don't feel great about James 506 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: Robinson's like he tore his achilles uh the day after Christmas. 507 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: It was I just checked, and that is so like 508 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: Achilles used to be a year minimum, like like you're 509 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: on the shelf. Cam Akers maybe changed that, but cam 510 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: Akers changed it because the Rams were, you know, going 511 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: for a super Bowl. It was in the playoffs. He 512 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,399 Speaker 1: rushed back, and even when he rushed back, he was 513 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: far from his normal self. He didn't have his normal birst. 514 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,239 Speaker 1: So if anything, I think we could look at cam 515 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: Akers and say it's possible to come back that early, 516 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna be the same. So for a 517 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: team like the Jacks that are clearly you know, looking 518 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: more towards the future, I would say I wouldn't be 519 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 1: surprised if Robinson starts on the pup or something like that, 520 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: if we don't see him till mid season, and even then, like, 521 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if it took some time for 522 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: him to to look his old self. If remember Achilles 523 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: used to be an injury that you would get it 524 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: and you never look the same again. So I'm still 525 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 1: pretty scared about that. I do agree with you. I 526 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: think Robinson is like especially now in June because a 527 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,200 Speaker 1: lot could change. He's worth a later round dart throw. 528 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: But I I have a hard time putting hot any 529 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 1: sort of like high expectations on James Robinson this year. 530 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it stinks just from a human standpoint, because, yeah, 531 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 1: he's playing well, you know. I mean there were there 532 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: were times last season, a lot of times last season 533 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 1: when he was the Jaguar's best player in the midst 534 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: of what was just a miserable season for that team 535 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,679 Speaker 1: and for that franchise all the way around. And so 536 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: it definitely stinks to see him kind of have to 537 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: to battle back through this. Fantasy wise, I I wouldn't 538 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: be opposed to drafting him, And I think this is 539 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: one of those things that sort of comes down to 540 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: roster construction. If you have obviously, if you have depth, 541 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: if you can afford to wait on a guy, um, 542 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, especially if you have if you're in a 543 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 1: league with I R spots where you can sort of 544 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: stash him away and not necessarily burn a roster spot 545 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: just in the event that, as you mentioned, they put 546 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: him on the pup list this year, Um, you you 547 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: can hold onto him. You can kind of keep him 548 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: there his insurance and not have to hold on and 549 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: kind of kill a roster spot that you may need 550 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: a few weeks after the season. That being said, uh 551 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 1: is is that does this mean Travis a t into 552 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: the moon? How are we feeling about him? I'm very 553 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: bullish about Travis E t N. And last year at 554 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: this time I was fading E t N because I 555 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: thought it was James Robinson's backfield. Still but I'm very 556 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: high on Travis E. T N. And I might sound 557 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: like a broken record if you've heard me talk about 558 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: him before. But next thing, Stats does this really cool? 559 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: They have this cool tool where they like give prospects 560 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: a grade coming out of college and it takes their 561 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: like they're they're athletic, testing their college production and their 562 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: strength of opponent, and it puts him in an algorithm 563 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: and it gives each prospect a grade. E ten got 564 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 1: a perfect ninety nine on that, and the only running 565 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: backs in recent years to do so Naji Harris, Breece Hall. 566 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Now he still to be determined on what he does, 567 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: but Naji Harris, Derrick, Henry se Kwon Barkley all have 568 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: been beast in the NFL. So E t N is 569 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: in great company. He is one of those running backs 570 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: that can be used as a receiver at times. He's 571 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: gonna be great in the passing game for them. He 572 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: already has a connection with UH Trevor Lawrence. They played 573 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: together at Clemson, where e t N was a touchdown 574 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: scoring machine for that team. And I know some people 575 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: look at it as missing a rookie year as a 576 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: bad thing, and I get it. We would have rather 577 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: see him play. But he came out himself and he 578 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: was like, if there was ever a year to miss 579 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: last year with the Jaguars was that year. And like 580 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: that's how I feel too. So now was new coaching 581 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: staff gets a whole off season of him being healthy. 582 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: They've been hyping up that his burst is still there. 583 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: I think e t n ceiling is being an RB 584 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: one and I love taking him in like the fourth 585 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: round because his a DP right now is like the 586 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: same or lower than it was at this time a 587 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: year ago. So e t N c H e t 588 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: N all day? All right, all right, yeah, I mean 589 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: I love the pass catching upside. I was on record 590 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: last year saying before e TN got hurt that I 591 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: was hoping the Jaguars would use them as sort of 592 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: like the Browns were able to use Nick Chubb and 593 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: uh and Kareem Hunt. Kind of have that be that 594 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: one to punch now obviously, Um, you know they may 595 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: not have Robinson at the start of the season. If 596 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: they do, I think he will be in a lesser 597 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: capacity than he would have been had he not turned 598 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: the A c L. So this is a real big 599 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: opportunity for e T and to jump in there. I 600 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: think fourth round feels about right because there's not as 601 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: much risk involved, but there's still you still invest in 602 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: some capital. The upside, obviously is is parent with him, 603 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: and so I think I think fourth round feels about 604 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: that that nice sweet spot which I know in the past, 605 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, the last couple years, we've been calling that 606 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: the RB dead zone. Um is that changing? This kind 607 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: of a big philosophical question and and there may not 608 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: be an answer to it. Do you feel like that's 609 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: gonna change this year if we drafted We're drafted wide 610 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: receivers earlier because that maybe bump some of these running 611 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 1: backs down, or is it is it's still kind of 612 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: a area to draft the position I I in fact, 613 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: I would make the argument that the fourth fifth round 614 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: is the wide receiver dead zone this year, like receivers, 615 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: at least in the Best Ball drafts that I've been doing. 616 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 1: Maybe you know, leagues that get played out will the 617 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: a DP will look different. But if it looks similar 618 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: to Best Ball dress, which it usually does, then you're 619 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 1: seeing four or five receivers, six receivers go in the 620 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: first like pick something like that, and then the second 621 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: like that. It just pushes the RB talent down more 622 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 1: and more. So I kind of like the idea of 623 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: starting like wide receiver, wide rece eiver and then grabbing 624 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: like James Conner and round three and Travis c t 625 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: N in round four. Like to me, that would be 626 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: an ideal start. Uh. Any interest in Snoop Connor just 627 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: a late round dart throw. I think maybe I don't know, 628 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: other people seem pretty high on him. I'm because maybe 629 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm putting blinders on because I'm I'm bullish on e 630 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: t N. But I think late round dart throw. Yeah, 631 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: it's about it. Um, I don't know that less interesting 632 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: in regular standard redraft leagues, I think than than anything else. 633 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,719 Speaker 1: So uh yeah, I just figured I throw that out 634 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: there and just see. Uh anyway, it's like a break, 635 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: We'll come back. I will play what I'm calling June 636 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Boone or June Gloom because it's still June and I 637 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: just wanted to dress up Hype Trainer smoke screen. That's 638 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: all stick rouf of that next on the NFL Fantasy 639 00:31:47,080 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: Football Show. All right, So this is the time of 640 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: year when people make statements that you know, we hang 641 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: on too because we have nothing else to do. I mean, 642 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: unless you are trying to handicap the NBA Draft, which 643 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: Adrian Wodronowski has probably already ruined for you. So I 644 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: don't know what you do now. Anyway, We're gonna play 645 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: June Boone or June Gloom, which is basically Hype Trainer 646 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 1: smoke Screen, just with a fancy new name because it's 647 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: June and I want to do something different. Uh. Part 648 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: of it is anybody who lives in Los Angeles for 649 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: any amount of time, Uh, you know the phenomenon of 650 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 1: June gloom. It's why I tell people who aren't from here, 651 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: don't ever visit l A in June. You will be 652 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: disappointed because for most of the month it is overcast, 653 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: it is cloudy. There are actual scientific atmospheric reasons why, 654 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 1: but me not being a trained meteorologist. I can't explain 655 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: them to you here on this podcast. Just google it. 656 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody knows um, but I wouldn't. Found a 657 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 1: handful of statements that have been made by players and 658 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: coaches recently, and we'll discuss whether it's a June boom, 659 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: whether it's something you know it's good, it's a boon 660 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: we can take it into the season and actually bank 661 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: on it, or if it's gloom, which basically means that 662 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: you know they're just you know, clouding up the sky 663 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: and and not really giving us munch of anything. So 664 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: we'll start with Chase Claypool, who, in an ultimate show 665 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: of confidence on a podcast recently said quote, I know 666 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm a top three receiver in the NFL, basically saying that, 667 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: you know, I had a chance to make some play. 668 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes they don't happen. You know, you go out and 669 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: you work hard. But I know that when I'm at 670 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: my best, I'm as good as anybody. I'm a top 671 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: three receiver in the NFL. Uh So are we buying this? 672 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: Is this a boon? Is this June gloom? Where where 673 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: are you feeling on this? This is the biggest June gloom. Ever, like, 674 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: if he's a top three water receiver, then then we 675 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: already have to start the list with Deonce Johnson, who 676 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: repeatedly overshones and outproduces Chase. Chase Claypool might be the 677 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: third best receiver on his own team because now they 678 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: have George Pickens there as well. Claypool is a talented guy. 679 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: Don't get me. This is like Marcus. This reminds me 680 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: of when like Draymond Green said, I'm the greatest defensive 681 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: player ever in shacks, Like he has to say that. 682 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: If he doesn't believe it, no one will. This is 683 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: like Chase Claypool trying to get himself to be confident 684 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: in stuff, but he's not even the top ten receiver, 685 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: let alone top three. Yeah, I look at it. It's 686 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: like the same way, like I I appreciate your confidence, 687 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like you do have to say that, 688 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: right If you're not gonna say that about yourself, then 689 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: certainly nobody else is going to. But not You're You're 690 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: You're not um you're right? He he There's a chance 691 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: he could be the third receiver on his team this year, 692 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: depending on what happens with George Pickens. We know Deonte 693 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: Johnson is gonna get a lot of the targets there, 694 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: so uh, like I I I appreciate the the enthusiasm 695 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: even if the I think the analysis is very very 696 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: wrong here. Uh that being said, I mean, are you 697 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: are you drafting Claypool anywhere? Just you know, with with 698 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: whatever is happening, whether it's by like Kenny Pickett has 699 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: finally signed his rookie contracts, all the first rounders are signed, 700 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: whether it is Mitch Robinski or Kenny Pickett. Are you 701 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: are you in on Chase Claypool this year? So my 702 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: early drafts I really haven't been George Pickens goes later, 703 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,240 Speaker 1: and my thing is like these two are gonna battle 704 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: out for that second spot there because there's also Pat 705 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: Friar mut who's gonna get targets. We know Naji Harris 706 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: will get some like I could see it being back 707 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: and forth or something like that. And I don't know. 708 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 1: I'll take the cheaper option there um rather than than 709 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: going with Claypool. But I don't think he's too expensive either, 710 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: so I can't knock anyone for taking him. He just 711 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: hasn't been like my preferred choice. Yeah, I think i'side 712 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: of Deante Johnson. I haven't really tried drafting any Steelers receivers. 713 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I don't know how many 714 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: they can support, how many pass catchers this offense can support, 715 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: because we just don't know about the quarterback situation right now. 716 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: Uh In Tennessee, early reports say Traylon Burke's is for 717 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: that as the third wide receiver with the Titans, that 718 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: Robert Woods, working his way back from an a c 719 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: L injury, is going to be number one, Nick Westbrook 720 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: Akene is really showing off well in offseason workouts in 721 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: mini camps that he could be the number two wide receiver. 722 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: And then of course we spent about a week on 723 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: Twitter talking about trade Traylon Burke's and his asthma issues. 724 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: I don't know how serious that is or not. I'm 725 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: not gonna make fun of it, but it obviously it 726 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: was a topic of conversation for a while. Um, but 727 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: are you buying June boone? June gloom? I mean, should 728 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: we how much stock should we be buying into these 729 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: early reports of him as a wide receiver? Three? I 730 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I think this is a huge 731 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: June gloom. Um. I think that This is what coaches 732 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: do where you know, coming into training camp and everything, 733 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: they make their rookies earn their spot. They put them 734 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,920 Speaker 1: down on the debt chart and make them continuously, uh, 735 00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, have to earn their spot. They don't want 736 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: to just hand anything to someone. But they used the 737 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: first round pick on Treylon Berk's knowing what they already 738 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: had there. And to me, trail On Berk's player camp 739 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: was a less athletic A J. Brown. So I think 740 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 1: that he's gonna come in and and play a similar 741 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: role I've been from since the moment they drafted him. 742 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: My thinking has been he's their number one target, although 743 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: I will I will say that's subject to change because 744 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: my thinking was Robert Woods was coming back from a 745 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: severe injury. He's a little bit older. It may take 746 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: him a long time if he doesn't have this summer 747 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: to build up that chemistry with Ryan Tannehill. I think 748 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,280 Speaker 1: Traylon Burks will take advantage of that. But we're hearing 749 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 1: reports that Robert Woods is ahead of schedule, so I'm 750 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: still that subject to change. I could flip flop those two, 751 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: but there's not a world markets where I will put 752 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook a kena ahead of Traylon Burks. I just 753 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: I can't see it. When when I saw this report 754 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: pop up the other day, somebody quote tweeted it with 755 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: an old report of Vikings beat. Report is saying that 756 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson in his first minicamp was running as the 757 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: third wide receiver behind Adam Feeling obviously and uh b C. 758 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,080 Speaker 1: Johnson And well, we see what. And I'm not gonna 759 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 1: sit here and tell you that Traylon Burks is gonna 760 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: turn into the next Justin Jefferson because I don't I 761 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: don't believe that to be the case. But the point 762 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: is that I think maybe this is a chance to 763 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: sort of light of fire under him to see if 764 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 1: they can get going. And part of it is probably 765 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,399 Speaker 1: that he hasn't had as much time to work out. 766 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: He has missed some practices, uh, you know, with his 767 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: health issues, So this could just be him not being 768 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,800 Speaker 1: on the field quite enough. So to take you for 769 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 1: what it's worth, that at least as of this moment 770 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: here in you know, mid to late June, Trey Burks 771 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: is the third wide receiver in Tennessee. By the time 772 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: we step on the field for real in September, that 773 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: could be very, very different. So that's just worth noting. Uh. 774 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: In Atlanta, head coach Arthur Smith says rookie quarterback Desmond 775 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: Ritter is quote light years ahead of most young quarterbacks. 776 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: This feels like much. This feels like a lot of 777 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: clouds in the sky. Maybe I'm wrong. This this this 778 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: is a this is just a pump up message, right, 779 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: That's what this is. I think. So, but I'm gonna 780 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look optimistic here, Marcus. I'm gonna say June boom, 781 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 1: because the thing about Desmond Ritter is he was a 782 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: four year starter in college and made like over fifty 783 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: starts or something like that, so he has a lot 784 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: of experience. And in the article he says like, I 785 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: thought it would have took me, you know, some time 786 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: to really learn an NFL offense. And he's like, and 787 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm picking it up very easily. I know it doesn't 788 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: matter until we see it translate on the field, but 789 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, if this guy was a starter for 790 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: so long in college, he he comes more ready then 791 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: pretty much every other quarterback in this class outside of 792 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett. So I I think Ritter could potentially push 793 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 1: for Week one start. I still am of the mindset 794 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 1: that Mariota will start Week one and maybe start the 795 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: first handful of games before we see a switch. But 796 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: the Falcons need to kind of know what they have 797 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: in Ritterer and if they should go after another quarterback 798 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: next season in the class that is supposed to be better. 799 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: So I wouldn't be surprised if if he has a 800 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: grasp on this offense, if we end up seeing him 801 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: sooner than later. So he sort of answered by the 802 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 1: next question is that you do you think Mariotta will 803 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: in the year as the starting quarterback and it sounds 804 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: like it really needs towards No. Yeah, he because I 805 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: always think when you have a rookie, the veteran has 806 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: to significantly be better to hold onto the job. And 807 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: no offense to Mariota, I think him and Rittter are 808 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: very similar talents that can both run, but Ridders just younger. 809 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: He's potentially the future, whereas Mariota is just a bridge. Yeah. 810 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you and I both had a 811 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: chance to kind of talk to Cameron Wolf, one of 812 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: the NFL Network reporters, UH last week during our our 813 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: talent something just kind of just chatting with him, and 814 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: one of the things he said to me about Mariotta was, 815 00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's a nice guy. He's a hard worker. 816 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: One we've sort of seen how this movie ends with him. 817 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: We ort to know what he is at this point 818 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: in his career, and that you know, at times his 819 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: confidence has been very fragile. And I think the Falcons 820 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,960 Speaker 1: right now, their job is to kind of build Mariota 821 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: up and get him back in the spot where he 822 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 1: can be comfortable being a starting quarterback. But at the 823 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 1: same time, as you mentioned, they've got this young guy 824 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 1: waiting in the wings potentially, you know, auditioning to be 825 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: the franchise quarterback. And who knows, maybe he's not, but 826 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: at some point they're gonna give him that opportunity. And 827 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: if you have a quarterback like Mariota who is sort 828 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 1: of on the fringes of being a starter in this league, um, 829 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't make it easier for you to turn the 830 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 1: team over to a young guy. Especially the Falcons are 831 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: not they're not contenders just yet. There's still a ways 832 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 1: away from being contenders. Um, you've got a good young 833 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 1: tight end in Kyle Pitts. Uh, you've got you drafted 834 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: Drake London, who you think can be a very good 835 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 1: young wide receiver at some point, and also just doesn't 836 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: make sense to pair them with an older quarterback who 837 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: you know right now is just kind of a Ridge guy. So, um, 838 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: maybe you're right, Maybe we do see Ritter sooner than later. 839 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,560 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be the first time Arthur Smith has benched Mariota, 840 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: So very true. I don't even think about that, do 841 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: you think, Uh, why do you think Maria thought about that? 842 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 1: Like wait a minute, Um, I mean it has across 843 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: his mind at this own point. I've seen people make 844 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: the positive oh he knows Arthur Smith system. But and 845 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: then I was thinking about it one day and I 846 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: was like, but him, he's the one who discovered Ryan. 847 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: That's right. Oh man, all right, last one here, Kyle Shanahan, 848 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: who really is the master of smoke screens of probably 849 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe more than just about any coach outside of like 850 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: say bel is not really a master of smoke screens. 851 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: He just doesn't tell you anything. So it's it's sort 852 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: of different. Shanahan is, like, you know, he's like a magician. 853 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,879 Speaker 1: He's like Joe Bluth, right, He's just gonna like put 854 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: a puff of smoke, he's gonna run away. But anyway, 855 00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: he says, Trey Lance quote has more horsepower inside of 856 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: him than I think he and knows. Um, this could 857 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: be him just trying to like boost his his young 858 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: quarterbacks confidence. All signs points in Jimmy Garoppolo not being there. Uh, 859 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 1: certainly not for the full season, maybe not at the 860 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, even if they haven't worked out 861 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 1: a deal yet. Uh. For us as fantasy folks, we 862 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 1: love to hear this because we've been big on Trey 863 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: Lance from the moment he got drafted. So are are 864 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: you Are you calling this as a June boone hearing 865 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: Shanahan say good things about his quarterback or is this 866 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: you know Kyle put up a puff of smoke and 867 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: basically saying look over there and then running away. Uh, 868 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: this is June boone all the way to me. One 869 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: because just like you said, I've been waiting to see 870 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: Trey Lance. I I think Trey Lance could be a 871 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,399 Speaker 1: great fantasy quarterback the moment he starts, regardless of how 872 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: he looks in real life, just because of what he 873 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: can do with his legs. I know, I say it 874 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: all the time. Jimmy g every years is leading the 875 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: league and if he's not, he's like second or third 876 00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: in passing yards that come after the catch. He has 877 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: a ton of talent around him. He can be asked 878 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: to make simple throws. He also has a cannon of 879 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: an arm. And why Marcus this is so encouraging to me? 880 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,239 Speaker 1: Is all last year and even when they were trying 881 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: to hype up Jimmy g In once the season ended, 882 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,240 Speaker 1: we heard Trey Lance, like Shanahanon said, Trey Lance isn't ready. 883 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: We don't want to turn to him yet. And to 884 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: hear the narratives start to change from the coach is 885 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: a good thing, I think, And I'm I'm pretty bullish 886 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 1: on Trey Lance. Maybe he won't ever be a great 887 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 1: real life quarterback, but I think from fantasy from day one, 888 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,359 Speaker 1: he could be like Jalen Hurts was last year. And 889 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: I know we throw around Josh Allen a lot as 890 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: a comp for like athletics stronger on quarterbacks, but Trey 891 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 1: Lance kind of I think has a similar path to upside, 892 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,799 Speaker 1: Like he needs to become more accurate and if he 893 00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: can work on that, and we always heard you can't 894 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,520 Speaker 1: teach at your see until Josh Allen. But and I 895 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: know he's he's the exception, not the rule. But if 896 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: he can just and naturally getting more reps in the NFL, 897 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: I think he will get more accurate. Maybe not to 898 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,800 Speaker 1: the level that they hope, but I certainly think he 899 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: won't be below six every year. If he could get that, 900 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: the sky is like he could be the best quarterback 901 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: and fantasy potentially. So fun fact you talk about, you know, 902 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: mobility there, Um, Trey Lance had a hundred and sixty 903 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: eight rushing yards last year as a rookie. Jimmy Garoppolo 904 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: in his career has a hundred and ninety two. So 905 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,720 Speaker 1: uh he is he is only what twenty four rushing 906 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: yards ahead of Tray Lance with many, many, many more 907 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 1: games under his belt. Uh the Lance he does. So yeah, 908 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 1: So there you go. So I'm excited about it. This 909 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: is for me. I've had to sort of trying to 910 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: separate my fantasy work from my my forty nine fandom 911 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: because as a fan, I look at Tray Lance and 912 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm like this, you know, potentially he's being asked to 913 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,759 Speaker 1: take over a team that got to the NFC Championship 914 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: game that still has something of a window. I mean, 915 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,440 Speaker 1: are in a very difficult division, but there's at least 916 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: a legitimate chance for this team to kind of make 917 00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: a run. And so to ask him to jump in 918 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: there and take over the reins feels like a lot. 919 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: But you separate that from just what he can do 920 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: fantasy wise, and and I think I think Jalen Hurts 921 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,200 Speaker 1: in terms of potential production and what he can be 922 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:20,880 Speaker 1: is kind of a good comp in the sense that 923 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: we're we don't really know if Jalen Hurts is a 924 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: good real life quarterback, but we damn sure no, he's 925 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: a good fantasy quarterback. We know he can get you 926 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,600 Speaker 1: twenty points a week. Uh you know, whether or not 927 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,319 Speaker 1: he is the piece that gets the Eagles over the 928 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,480 Speaker 1: hump and makes them make contender again, We're still waiting 929 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: to find out. And so I think that's sort of 930 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: where I fall right now on trade lance. I'm as 931 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 1: a fan, I'm excited, I'm hopeful. I hope he can 932 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,880 Speaker 1: get close to that ceiling. I don't know yet, but 933 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 1: fantasy wise, if I can draft him in the double 934 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,640 Speaker 1: digit rounds, and I think that's gonna get harder, um, 935 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, then I will do that. So I'll say 936 00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: this I think right now Florida with US drafting, with 937 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: all the the the degenerates like us that are drafting 938 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: right now, um, getting trade landing the double digit rounds 939 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: is going to be hard. I have a feeling though, 940 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: that when a lot of the more casual players kind 941 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 1: of logg back in in August, Uh, that maybe gets 942 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: a little bit easier, Like maybe you see tray Lands 943 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,080 Speaker 1: hanging on the board in a little bit longer in 944 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: some drafts. Uh, and so that you know when because 945 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: I was the people band draft, if you play in 946 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: a lot of high stakes leagues, draft with with folks 947 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: who don't man because it's a different world, and it 948 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,440 Speaker 1: will it will make you sharper, It'll make you pay 949 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,200 Speaker 1: attention a little bit more. Um. How do I just 950 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,759 Speaker 1: get the feeling that we get to August and will 951 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: see his ADP come down as people who don't necessarily 952 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: know or don't necessarily share the same feelings about Trey 953 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 1: Lands jump in and log in and play. Yep, I agree. 954 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: And if that's the case, param went like Matt Stafford, 955 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: you know someone who's safe and then he's the upside play. 956 00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: I would love uh doing that. And I know we're 957 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: about to say goodbye Marcus, but we're talking about the band. 958 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,360 Speaker 1: We haven't spoke about it on the podcast that happened. 959 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 1: Congratulations to you as a Warriors fan. The dynasty lives, 960 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: It does it does, even though, uh, you know, there's 961 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 1: a well known podcaster media mogul from Boston who was 962 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: lamenting his Celtics losing and tried to throw shade on 963 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: the Warriors saying that it's not really a dynasty and 964 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: he was dragged across Twitter for it, and that made 965 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: me smile. But yeah, it was great. Um, I I 966 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,840 Speaker 1: will tell you, and I think I told you privately. 967 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: I was a roller coaster of emotion all throughout the 968 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,839 Speaker 1: playoffs after they after they lost Game one at home, 969 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 1: I had sort of built up excuses in my head 970 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: to uh to prepare myself for potentially losing the series. 971 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 1: But um, it's been a lot of fun. I will 972 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 1: say this one, this one is a close second to 973 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 1: will always be the best one in this group because 974 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,600 Speaker 1: it was the first one. Um. But but this one 975 00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to happen. This was they were supposed to 976 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: be at least another year away. Clay was just coming 977 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,120 Speaker 1: back from injury. Um, they were still trying to figure 978 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: out their rotations. Uh. You know, it wasn't always pretty 979 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: at times. They had they lost my fifty points in 980 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: the playoffs at one point. I mean it was it 981 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:14,040 Speaker 1: was ugly at times. And they got big contributions from 982 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who wouldn't expect I mean, you 983 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:20,000 Speaker 1: know guy that Otto Porter and Kevin Kavon Looney, Uh 984 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 1: playing big Andrew Wiggins who was left for dead by 985 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 1: a lot of NBA observers coming out and having just 986 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: a phenomenal final series. So uh, the hat and the 987 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: shirt for me are on the way. I'm excited. Uh So, yeah, 988 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:34,879 Speaker 1: that has been a nice That has been a nice 989 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: bump to my summer seeing the Wars win a championship. 990 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,880 Speaker 1: I thought the two coolest moments after they won was 991 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: when Clay called out the Grizzlies at the at the 992 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: podium and then Draymond after when he's celebrating, he said 993 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: see you next year at the Warriors Invitational. I was like, 994 00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 1: that is such which is what he was calling it, 995 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: Like when they were when they went to five finals 996 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: in a row. Uh he called at the Warrior's Invitational, 997 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,160 Speaker 1: which made people, Man, had I get it. But at 998 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, he was like, we'll beat us, 999 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: which you know, for a long time nobody could. Um. Yeah, 1000 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: I say. The other part of this is, uh I, 1001 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited, and I have a lot of friends we 1002 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: all grew up together, who are certainly super happy. There's 1003 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 1: a little part of us, though, that's sad that that 1004 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: the Warrior fan base has been taken over by like 1005 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: obnoxious tech bros and uh right, because like we never 1006 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,360 Speaker 1: thought we could be We went, I went what geez, 1007 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 1: I went thirty eight years without the Warriors winning a championship. 1008 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: We were always kind of sad, like we never thought 1009 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 1: we'd get to the point of being obnoxious fans because 1010 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: we just never want anything. So it's a little bit. 1011 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: It's a little bit disorienting. I always say, I'll take 1012 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: the bandwagoners just to see like the Knicks win or 1013 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,800 Speaker 1: the Mets win, or the Bills win. But then it 1014 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,080 Speaker 1: you win a couple and it gets like it is 1015 00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,920 Speaker 1: for the Warriors, and I could see why that's annoying. Yeah, no, 1016 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,280 Speaker 1: I I look, I trust me. I'm I'm in Warrior's Twitter. 1017 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,439 Speaker 1: I understand why people hate us, Like I get it. 1018 00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: I wish it wasn't that way, but I understand. But 1019 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: people like you get you get a lot of credit 1020 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: because you've stuck with them for a very long time. Man, 1021 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: I go back to the days of Terry Tiegel and 1022 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,440 Speaker 1: Larry Smith and locking my keys in my car to 1023 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: go to the arena and Washington Draft Joe Smith number 1024 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 1: one overall. Yeah, I go back aways, Baron Davis. Do 1025 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,520 Speaker 1: we believe that we believe era? Yeah? Man, I even know. 1026 00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: I even bought a Tim and Chris Burger from McDonald's 1027 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,960 Speaker 1: when they had those, Like, like, only folks from the 1028 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,279 Speaker 1: Bay Area even know what I'm talking about right now, 1029 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 1: all right, I'm smiling. I see that seems like a 1030 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,759 Speaker 1: good place to end this one. That'll do it for 1031 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 1: this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast sty Happy, 1032 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,279 Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well, take care 1033 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,160 Speaker 1: of yourself, take care of people around you, and we 1034 00:51:49,160 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: will talk to you next week. Want cocoa and the 1035 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:16,399 Speaker 1: pot bank and cocoa and all