Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast hads thoughts on Tarantino's OOVRA.
Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name
Speaker 2: is Dan hansis coming to you from a virtual room
Speaker 2: build with some heroes across the Southland. Patrick Clayban is
Speaker 2: back with us love it, Mark Sessler, of course, and
Speaker 2: Colleen Wilf, the woman who told us on the Tuesday program,
Speaker 2: is in the midst of a Tarantino marathon. How's that going?
Speaker 3: It's great.
Speaker 4: I just finished in Glorious Bastards. That's always been my
Speaker 4: number one fave. It remains at the top of the list.
Speaker 4: But I'm having a hard time right now slotting the
Speaker 4: top tier pulp and kill Bill because I loved kill
Speaker 4: Bill so much on the second watch, and I actually
Speaker 4: like two better than one. But it's like, do I
Speaker 4: like them enough to if I think if it's if
Speaker 4: kill Bill one and two are being considered one movie
Speaker 4: like Tarantino likes to go by, then I think I'll
Speaker 4: put it over pulp Fiction. But if we're breaking it
Speaker 4: up into individual kill Bill, then I would have to
Speaker 4: go pulp fiction, kill Bill two, kill Bill one?
Speaker 2: Wow? Is that a prepared answer?
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm just really deep right now in
Speaker 3: this thought.
Speaker 5: I'm surprised by that that you would me too.
Speaker 3: I'm also surprised.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been asked even because we're doing something later today.
Speaker 5: We're answering my questions. But someone asked that Tarantino question
Speaker 5: over and over, and it's like, kind of your top
Speaker 5: five and kill Bill is never either one of them
Speaker 5: are never in my They never break my top five.
Speaker 5: What Also, it's like that sounds like we're like we're
Speaker 5: slashing the film. It's it's just that there's five I
Speaker 5: like better.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think and maybe like Colleen's experiencing this,
Speaker 6: when you go back and watch and you kind of
Speaker 6: detach everything from the context of when you watched it,
Speaker 6: you kind of get a new perspective because like everything's
Speaker 6: always changing and there's always little things that jump out
Speaker 6: to you more. It's good. That's why rewatched are important.
Speaker 2: Pulp fiction will always be my number one. Once upon
Speaker 2: a Time in Hollywood is very securely in my number two.
Speaker 2: I adore that movie, and then number three. It really
Speaker 2: is a rotation for me, and I don't know where
Speaker 2: I am right now. Maybe it's kill Bill, maybe it's
Speaker 2: inglorious bastard. It's you know Jackie Brown. Mark we talked
Speaker 2: about a lot that sneaks in sometimes and gets the
Speaker 2: bronze medal.
Speaker 5: It's so under Jackie Brown is my number three and
Speaker 5: like I think it's still his most underrated movie of
Speaker 5: all I really do.
Speaker 2: All right, this is around the NFL, A study of
Speaker 2: the complete works of Quentin Tarantino. Well, maybe one day,
Speaker 2: not today's show. Today, we got a lot to get to.
Speaker 2: It's a mail bag day. I like this. This is
Speaker 2: gonna be fun. I like this quadrant. Greg's still in
Speaker 2: mother in law Japan, enjoying his vacation, trying not to
Speaker 2: bother him too much. Enjoy Greg. I hope you're one
Speaker 2: with the culture over there and everyone's having a good time. Here.
Speaker 2: We have this a great Sessler Wolf Claybon hansa quadrant
Speaker 2: which I don't know how many of these you've had,
Speaker 2: So let's see how it goes. Uh, the mail bag
Speaker 2: is full and sometimes and I'm very I'm very honest
Speaker 2: Patrick with the audience when they fail the mail bag prompt.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they just don't. You get too many of those, like,
Speaker 2: oh what would you rather, you know, defeat or go
Speaker 2: up against a giant duck or seven thousand mini ducks,
Speaker 2: and it's like, shut up, stop, just stop. A great
Speaker 2: question like it, Oh, if you were on a desert island,
Speaker 2: which one of the heroes would just stop it?
Speaker 5: You will dark that one up. And I think that
Speaker 5: people have stopped sending that particular question.
Speaker 2: But this week I thought the listeners killed it. And
Speaker 2: we all kind of put our hand in there and
Speaker 2: and are choosing some questions and we're going to go
Speaker 2: around about It's gonna be good. Patrick. I like it.
Speaker 6: I'm excited. This is my actual first Mailbag episode. I've
Speaker 6: always missed the Mailbag episode, so this is this is
Speaker 6: it for me.
Speaker 2: And you know, Patrick, you're a man with many interesting takes,
Speaker 2: and you're in terms of like the things that you
Speaker 2: enjoy talking about. It's a vast swath. It's not just football.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a perfect exercise for the
Speaker 2: man they call Claybond. How far are you but your
Speaker 2: inside NFL Network studios right now? How close are you
Speaker 2: to the giant photo of Russell Wilson across a giant
Speaker 2: wall with his hand is like his hands clasped together,
Speaker 2: staring at the camera and integrity splashed across him.
Speaker 6: I always know exactly where I am in relation to
Speaker 6: that picture, because integrity is important to me. I am
Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty feet I think seventy two steps,
Speaker 6: depending if I have to dodge somebody. And if you
Speaker 6: need me during this pod to take a picture of
Speaker 6: integrity and tweet it and just say integrity, I will
Speaker 6: do that.
Speaker 4: You should definitely tweet it too, Dan, because he thought
Speaker 4: it said dignity, which will be the Dignity Room.
Speaker 2: Honestly, it's only slightly less ridiculous.
Speaker 5: Well, I feel like there's a lot of art around
Speaker 5: our building where like had had these, you know, they
Speaker 5: decorated it this summer and Russell Wilson had fallen off
Speaker 5: a cliff. They're probably picking a different player for that image.
Speaker 5: They've got a Odell Beckham that they repainted from a
Speaker 5: Browns uniform to now are rams, but they've not made
Speaker 5: him in Baltimore Raven at this point, so I don't know.
Speaker 5: We're tracking that one closely.
Speaker 2: It would be cool if there was like kind of
Speaker 2: next to because it's not just Russell Wilson, it's different
Speaker 2: NFL figures. And then you know one of the what
Speaker 2: was those at the old malls. They would have the
Speaker 2: posters that were motivational posters. It's kind of like that.
Speaker 2: It's it's very serious photos of various figures in the
Speaker 2: NFL and then a word that I guess we're supposed
Speaker 2: to stand for. I would like it. It was just
Speaker 2: a very serious shot of us all around the NFL
Speaker 2: gang and then just like Bozo's.
Speaker 6: Crime the podcasts, it's a mark of art. My my
Speaker 6: favorite because downstairs, right on the newsroom floor, the second floor,
Speaker 6: there's three hundred feet of stylized pictures of NFL legends
Speaker 6: that run the full style gamut. There's like Jerry Rice
Speaker 6: in a in a robe and a crown, and then
Speaker 6: there's a random picture of Brett Favre. But it's not
Speaker 6: Brett Favre. It's like a weird looking cartoon that has
Speaker 6: nothing to do with the entire rest of the wall.
Speaker 6: Somebody put in a lot of work, but it's I don't.
Speaker 4: Sound like an easter egg of some sort. This was
Speaker 4: like a purposeful I hain't no idea.
Speaker 6: It's looks it looks like a like the Dilbert drawing
Speaker 6: of Brett Farv matched up with all of this hyper realistic.
Speaker 2: Artwork in theatric Somebody did that bort for You've gone
Speaker 2: too far, Patrick, someone did that the effort.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of art that that I don't necessarily
Speaker 6: get shout out to them. They've got more talent to me.
Speaker 6: I draw a stick figure, but I think it's appoorpriate
Speaker 6: because Brett Favre is a cartoon.
Speaker 3: You got to show us this.
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Speaker 7: good old USA, So I've got to call it like
Speaker 7: it is. There are a lot of beer brands out
Speaker 7: there that are trying to cash in on this holiday
Speaker 7: by slapping an American flag on their package, regardless of
Speaker 7: whether or not they are truly American.
Speaker 2: Joey Aikman not just jumping into the beer wars with
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Speaker 2: CLAYBN because it's not I wouldn't say it is vague
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Speaker 6: He should have had a troop come stand on it
Speaker 6: so it could literally support the troop, and then like
Speaker 6: it would be the most troops supporting beer ever.
Speaker 3: I learned how to flyover would be good too.
Speaker 2: Let's get to the news. Oh my god, I by
Speaker 2: the way, seek that out and watch the entire video,
Speaker 2: because he in case that wasn't on the nose enough,
Speaker 2: he goes in a little harder at a certain point
Speaker 2: and it ends it with a big old swig of
Speaker 2: eight bad news, everybody. We got more gambling stuff to
Speaker 2: talk about. It just came down before we start taping.
Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers and Rashad Berry of the Indianapolis Colts and
Speaker 2: free agent Demetrius Taylor are being suspended definitely through at
Speaker 2: least the twenty twenty three season for betting on NFL games.
Speaker 2: This season. Also, we had heard Rodgers was facing a
Speaker 2: big band, and there it is. Titans offensive tackle Nicholas
Speaker 2: petite Frere, who was a starter all throughout last season,
Speaker 2: is being suspended six games for betting on sports at
Speaker 2: the workplace. We have a slight update here that the
Speaker 2: Colts very quickly moved to release the players involved in
Speaker 2: this Rogers and Barry and on the side of Petite Freer.
Speaker 2: In a statement to ESPN's Adam Schefter, he said the
Speaker 2: betting I engaged in was not NFL related and was
Speaker 2: legal under Tennessee law. It is only because it is
Speaker 2: only being sanctioned because it occurred at the Titans facility.
Speaker 2: He went on to apologize, so he got got as well. Patrick.
Speaker 2: This continues to reverberate across the league, and at some
Speaker 2: point perhaps this will we'll stop seeing this, or perhaps
Speaker 2: we won't. Perhaps this is just a part of the
Speaker 2: new reality of the NFL, now that gambling is part
Speaker 2: of what the league does.
Speaker 6: Yeah, eventually, I think through discussion of this, I think
Speaker 6: more people will become updated on the policy. I don't
Speaker 6: know what the policies and what the forms look like
Speaker 6: for them. I know we go through extensive training to
Speaker 6: the point where if somebody even mentions it, I'm like, hey,
Speaker 6: if I'm not to show this specifically referencing it, I'm
Speaker 6: not talking about this because they'll come down, and if
Speaker 6: they come down with these guys, they'll come down on anybody.
Speaker 6: So hopefully everybody gets it because this like guy's getting released.
Speaker 6: That's I hate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even like walking past a sports book
Speaker 4: and a casino because I feel like someone knows that
Speaker 4: I'm there and I'm just like in the vicinity of one,
Speaker 4: because I'm in an actual building that houses gambling.
Speaker 3: Like it is very, very I.
Speaker 4: Think the policy is obviously tough to understand because these
Speaker 4: players keep getting in trouble and the wrinkle of them
Speaker 4: being in the facility but placing a legal bet under
Speaker 4: the terms of the agreement like that is that's that's
Speaker 4: a tough stitch for him and also for Nicholas. He
Speaker 4: was the only returning starter on that offensive line, so
Speaker 4: that's kind of a blow for a line that's already
Speaker 4: trying to find its footing for next season.
Speaker 5: It was interesting that Petit Freer said that, you know,
Speaker 5: even though we attended the lead presentation on the gambling
Speaker 5: policies as we have, that he was unaware of his
Speaker 5: specific because he got six games. The others are indefinite.
Speaker 5: They saw that case differently. It's it's it's Thursday turning
Speaker 5: into Friday, and we're heading to a July fourth weekend.
Speaker 5: I feel like I would I would I would gamble
Speaker 5: that there will be more of don't.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, don't don't.
Speaker 5: I will. I will suggest to it there, I will,
Speaker 5: I will have this. I will predict that there will
Speaker 5: be more of these, not only during our show potentially,
Speaker 5: but over the next twenty four hours as they try
Speaker 5: to like, have this occur to raise awareness, but then
Speaker 5: have it go away during the July fourth weekend because
Speaker 5: it's not what the league likes to have us talking about.
Speaker 2: In other news, as I quickly move away from it,
Speaker 2: the Patriots and wide receiver DeVante Parker are doing business together.
Speaker 2: First reported by NFL Network, Parker, who is entering the
Speaker 2: final year of his contract this season, has agreed to
Speaker 2: a new deal through twenty twenty five. As part of
Speaker 2: that three year contract, he could earn up the thirty
Speaker 2: three million if he achieves every per game roster bonus
Speaker 2: and hits all playing time and performance incentives that includes
Speaker 2: all Pro honors. According to a source via ESPN, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so again, it's with these contracts read closely because that
Speaker 2: thirty three million. He ain't seen that thirty three million
Speaker 2: in Kate unless something really special happens here. He's entering
Speaker 2: his ninth year, Parker, he totaled thirty one catches for
Speaker 2: five hundred and thirty five hundred and thirty nine yards
Speaker 2: and three touchdowns last season, So Mark, it didn't blow
Speaker 2: the doors off the joint they met with the DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 2: It seems like they need another guy, but they must
Speaker 2: like Parker enough to potentially keep him around longer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he missed games last year. I mean, he's never
Speaker 5: you know, been a total whirlwind. But they only had
Speaker 5: outside of Juju Smith Schuster, they had no other veterans
Speaker 5: sign beyond this season, so I think that played a
Speaker 5: part of it. I don't think it has anything to
Speaker 5: do with DeAndre Hopkins at all, or it doesn't slow
Speaker 5: down their pursuit of him. It opens up a little
Speaker 5: bit of cap space, but just sort of some of
Speaker 5: the people that are close to New England, the pursuit
Speaker 5: of DeAndre Hopkins continues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it done. What are we doing? Just
Speaker 2: if you you met with him two weeks ago. Now,
Speaker 2: he's still out there. If you want him, go get him.
Speaker 5: Certain I think he's waiting to see if someone else,
Speaker 5: you know, in time, due to calamity or whatever, wants
Speaker 5: him more.
Speaker 3: That's fair.
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously the Patriots think that Parker is going
Speaker 4: to be more consistent than he was last season, and
Speaker 4: I would think, but maybe I'm like really interested to
Speaker 4: see what happens with Mac Jones and Bill O'Brien, like
Speaker 4: how this whole relationship and how this offense looks different
Speaker 4: from last year since since it was so disastrous.
Speaker 2: Devonte Parker had one big season it was twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: with the Dolphins, seventy two catches, twelve hundred yards, nine touchdowns.
Speaker 2: He has been a you know, almost like a textbook
Speaker 2: definition at least statistically replacement level player all other seasons. So, Claybohn,
Speaker 2: this story, this doesn't do much for me, just like
Speaker 2: most of the offense of New England as it's currently constitute,
Speaker 2: does not do much for me. That's my take.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you have to kind of the Matt Patricia era
Speaker 6: New England Patriots offense. You almost kind of just got
Speaker 6: to throw it out and say, like this is this
Speaker 6: is a new start. Clearly, like we know that there's
Speaker 6: a relationship, there's so many common pieces between Bill O'Brien
Speaker 6: and Mac Jones that there's there's place to believe that
Speaker 6: it can work. But again, like as you mentioned, Dan,
Speaker 6: it's around ten million dollars, Like ultimately that's guaranteed to
Speaker 6: Devonte Parker, like it's a six million dollar cap hit.
Speaker 6: People reacting to thirty three, it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 6: this is it's not enough to change the Nuke situation.
Speaker 6: And I honestly think, like considering the teams that Nuke
Speaker 6: has played for in the errors that he did, that
Speaker 6: he does want like it's not just lip service, Like
Speaker 6: I want to go to a franchise that has consistency
Speaker 6: and there's a clear idea for what they want to accomplish,
Speaker 6: and that that might be the Patriots to It just
Speaker 6: might take him waiting to figure that out.
Speaker 2: In other Patriots news, tragic news, former backup quarterback Ryan Mallett,
Speaker 2: who had a seven year career in the NFL after
Speaker 2: starring at Arkansas and College, died Tuesday in an apparent
Speaker 2: drowning at a Florida beach. He was thirty five years old.
Speaker 2: It was an incident where first responders were called to
Speaker 2: this beach in Destin, Florida, as a group of people
Speaker 2: swimming in the Gulf of Mexico near a sandbar, according
Speaker 2: to the report, struggled to make it to shore. One
Speaker 2: of those individuals was Mallet not breathing, pulled out of
Speaker 2: the water and they were not able to revive him. Terrible,
Speaker 2: terrible story. He was once upon a time the third
Speaker 2: round pick of the Patriots, brought in as a backup
Speaker 2: behind Brady. Never saw a lot of time with the
Speaker 2: Patriots because Brady never came off the field. In a
Speaker 2: statement Tuesday, Belichick said that he was extremely saddened by
Speaker 2: Ryan's tragic passing, and Tom Brady on social media wrote,
Speaker 2: we lost a great man. Thank you for everything. Ryan.
Speaker 2: Unbelievable and very sad.
Speaker 5: Mark Sessler, I mean, you know, like just an awful,
Speaker 5: awful situation. It stopped me in my tracks when I
Speaker 5: when I read it, because you didn't know what the
Speaker 5: cause was out of the gate. He was a football coach. Currently,
Speaker 5: you know, Mallet is We're we've done the show long
Speaker 5: enough where these players, not just the stars, but these
Speaker 5: guys that came in with a little bit of hype
Speaker 5: in the league and showed a little bit of promise
Speaker 5: were part of our show. And I just remember like
Speaker 5: having an era a year or two where I was
Speaker 5: pounding the table for Cleveland to make Ryan Mallet their
Speaker 5: starting quarter.
Speaker 2: You had a passionate speech about that, right, yes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, our show and it's not you know, we that's
Speaker 5: not we don't need to go down that wormhole too
Speaker 5: deep today. But like there were things too as a
Speaker 5: player that there that his arm strength and some of
Speaker 5: his fire like just appealed to me. But you know,
Speaker 5: essentially a backup that became a coach and like you
Speaker 5: find when you hear like his age, it's just like
Speaker 5: whoa uh, it's just striking to me. So it's a
Speaker 5: terrible story and it just one of the worst moments
Speaker 5: of the off season.
Speaker 4: Oh, it like makes my chest tight right now even
Speaker 4: thinking about it. But it's like thirty five years old drowning.
Speaker 4: That's so unbelievably tragic. Drowning is like that's my biggest
Speaker 4: fear in the entire world. It's so so sad that
Speaker 4: this happened. And there's just so many the rip currents
Speaker 4: right now in Florida. You can, I mean, it's all
Speaker 4: over the news. There's a ton of people that are
Speaker 4: getting taken under by them, and it's just like scary.
Speaker 4: You guys got to watch out out there during the summer,
Speaker 4: especially when storms are coming in.
Speaker 6: Do not mess with the ocean, and that's like the
Speaker 6: big takeaway. It was a yellow flag day, but that
Speaker 6: the flags don't necessarily dictate what the individual currents can do,
Speaker 6: and if mother nature wants you, it can have. People
Speaker 6: just need to be safe. The sad thing, of course,
Speaker 6: it's a clear tragedy, but Ryan had gone through so much.
Speaker 6: He had struggled with issues through his career, and he
Speaker 6: finally found a place right where he was mentoring and
Speaker 6: leading children. And to have this happen at this point,
Speaker 6: it's just horrible. I hope everybody pays attention and you know,
Speaker 6: looks out for each other when they're you know, enjoying
Speaker 6: the water.
Speaker 2: Well, said Patrick. In other news, another well near tragedy
Speaker 2: involving free agent running back Leonard Fournette, who escaped injury
Speaker 2: after his car caught on fire as he was driving it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he posted Fournette on his Instagram account Tuesday,
Speaker 2: showing his SUV just all sorts of torn up. It's
Speaker 2: unclear what caused it. Fournette said, Man, it was one
Speaker 2: of those days today. But I would like to thank
Speaker 2: god my car caught on fire while he was driving.
Speaker 2: But I am still blessed. Fournette was released by The
Speaker 2: Bucks in March playoff Lenny. Of course, we'll see if
Speaker 2: he catches on anywhere. Not a great time to be
Speaker 2: running back, certainly a veteran closing on thirty. But hey man,
Speaker 2: he's still alive, and that's a good thing.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you. Like, this brought up a weird memory
Speaker 5: for me, and I'm obviously glad that just the car
Speaker 5: went down and no one else. But in like nineteen
Speaker 5: ninety two, when I was a freshman in college, I
Speaker 5: was a Browns fan going to Miami, Ohio, and so
Speaker 5: that's down near Cincinnati. So a couple of us like
Speaker 5: decided to drive up in a Chevy Nova that this
Speaker 5: girl had borrowed from her best friend. Oh, and he's like,
Speaker 5: this is my prize Chevy Nova. Like, yeah, you can
Speaker 5: drive it, but I don't want an else driving it.
Speaker 5: And so we there. You know, we go from Cincinnati
Speaker 5: to Cleveland on this highway. In about you know, two
Speaker 5: hours into the trip, my friend and I in the
Speaker 5: back seat noticed like dark plumes of smoke behind us
Speaker 5: where you couldn't see any cars behind you, and so
Speaker 5: we thought, well, it's probably a good idea to pull over.
Speaker 5: So we you know, we pull over and we all
Speaker 5: get out, and then suddenly, like this mechanic guy in
Speaker 5: a truck came by and popped our hood and the
Speaker 5: hood exploded with like green swirling liquids. So I just like, really,
Speaker 5: I think it's time to get our school bags and
Speaker 5: our other bags out of this car. And then ten
Speaker 5: minutes later it was it exploded in general, burning along
Speaker 5: the highway and burnt to the ground. And so when
Speaker 5: I saw the pictures, if you go look at the
Speaker 5: pictures of what happened to his car, that's what that's
Speaker 5: I've seen that before, and it's just like, it's incredible
Speaker 5: when a car decides to implode and vanish from the earth,
Speaker 5: how quickly that happens.
Speaker 8: What what I can't believe I've never heard this story before,
Speaker 8: was the mechanic okay, who opened the hood after exploded.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a very steep hillside, so we all
Speaker 5: quickly climbed up the hillside and like they put flares
Speaker 5: up so the cars wouldn't come. But then we had
Speaker 5: to take a h not an ambulance because we were fine,
Speaker 5: but it was like a slow moving ambulance to a
Speaker 5: rest stop, and she had to call her friend and
Speaker 5: tell him like, yeah, like I just want to I
Speaker 5: don't know how to tell you this. I was driving,
Speaker 5: but the car has burned to the ground on the
Speaker 5: highway between these two cities. So it was a strange.
Speaker 5: And then the Browns were shut out I think twelve
Speaker 5: nothing by the Brock was like their first shutout in
Speaker 5: thirty years. So it's just like a disaster.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't like we weren't being rushed anywhere because.
Speaker 2: It was actually going below the speed limit. It was
Speaker 2: almost like the ambulance driver was making a point that
Speaker 2: he didn't feel like he needed to be doing this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you could argue that.
Speaker 2: These rowdy teens ruining my Tuesday.
Speaker 3: Well, glad you're okay Sunday.
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, Well, good for you, great that you're
Speaker 2: still around. Finally, in the news, Travis Kelcey did you know?
Speaker 2: You might not know that when he was playing tight
Speaker 2: end for the University of Cincinnati, he tested positive for marijuana,
Speaker 2: suspended that entire campaign, and the views and laws around
Speaker 2: marijuana have changed considerably in the thirteen years since that incident.
Speaker 2: Players are pretty open past players, especially about their use
Speaker 2: of marijuana during their careers, and Kelsey told Vanity Fair
Speaker 2: that around fifty percent to eighty percent of NFL players
Speaker 2: use cannabis and that under the more lenient policy that
Speaker 2: the NFL put into place in twenty ten twenty one,
Speaker 2: which Josh Gordon was like, yo, bro, why did that
Speaker 2: not come in like five years earlier? It's easy for
Speaker 2: players to use weed in the offseason and stop before
Speaker 2: testing begins. Here's the quote from Kelsey. And then for
Speaker 2: some reason, I'm choosing to queue up, Colleen. If you
Speaker 2: stop in the middle of July, you're fine. A lot
Speaker 2: of guys stop a week before and they still pass
Speaker 2: because everybody's working out in the heat and sweating their
Speaker 2: tail off. Nobody's really getting hit for it anymore.
Speaker 4: For twenty bro, yeah, you should have had Greg here
Speaker 4: t him up first. But if this is if you
Speaker 4: can walk into a store like essentially a bodega in
Speaker 4: California and many other states and just buy cannabis anyone
Speaker 4: off of the street, it doesn't make any sense to
Speaker 4: me that this is a.
Speaker 3: Problem in the NFL.
Speaker 4: When these guys are going through what they are putting
Speaker 4: their bodies physically through so much trauma every single week,
Speaker 4: and then they're not allowed to use something that you're
Speaker 4: neighbor can use, no problem.
Speaker 3: It's just doesn't really add up. I think it should
Speaker 3: be changed.
Speaker 4: And I feel like I'm really high. I don't know
Speaker 4: what that feels like, but I can guess.
Speaker 5: Oh, oh really, because I feel like the estimate would
Speaker 5: be that fifty to one hundred percent of the staff
Speaker 5: of this show, including everyone on screen, has experimented with
Speaker 5: this substance. But that's fine, I'll leave it right.
Speaker 3: There, years past, years ago.
Speaker 6: I think like my question would just be, with regards
Speaker 6: to any particular substance, why are we testing for it?
Speaker 6: That would be that would be my question to the league,
Speaker 6: Like is it testing to ensure player safety? Or is
Speaker 6: it some sort of respectability play? And like, if so,
Speaker 6: who is it a respectability play too? Because this is
Speaker 6: a product that's legal and utilized in most places, and
Speaker 6: so like, who are we trying? What's the effort? That's
Speaker 6: That's what That's all I want to know, is who
Speaker 6: is it for? What's it what's it trying to do for?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 6: For what?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Makes me PARANOI. I don't like it. Some people love.
Speaker 5: It, That's always been true.
Speaker 2: You Dan, like give daddy a Tito's and let's fly
Speaker 2: somewhere else.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: Also you have Aaron Rodgers talking about psychedelics and how
Speaker 4: that should be decriminalized, and of course he is such
Speaker 4: a strong figure in this league. So I feel like
Speaker 4: the more people talk about it, the less the stigma
Speaker 4: will be.
Speaker 5: Do you remember the days though? Did you ever go
Speaker 5: through this when like one time I got a like
Speaker 5: a summer job where I found out and I, as
Speaker 5: a youth, I did not do a lot of uh
Speaker 5: smoking a tree on any level.
Speaker 2: I just did not.
Speaker 5: But I got caught at a party doing it once, okay,
Speaker 5: and then like had like two days later found out
Speaker 5: that I had to take a drug test for this
Speaker 5: like nominal job, which I needed. And so you do
Speaker 5: the thing where like all my friends like drink like
Speaker 5: a gigantic jar of pickle juice, and so I spent
Speaker 5: like an entire day drinking like not there, you know,
Speaker 5: you take the pickles out and you just drink this
Speaker 5: giant jar of pickle juice. Totally passed.
Speaker 2: If you would have just run around the high school
Speaker 2: track four times, like done four laps, it probably would
Speaker 2: have done the same thing. But maybe pickle juice is
Speaker 2: a better.
Speaker 4: And ultimately, when I was in my school, my parents,
Speaker 4: my mom washed a bag of weed and then brought
Speaker 4: it over to me and.
Speaker 3: Said, is this one of Mary's herbs? Mary's my sister
Speaker 3: is this?
Speaker 4: It was in the It was in the laundry, and
Speaker 4: I was like, yes, actually it is, Thank you very much.
Speaker 6: Mary thought I thought Mary's herbs was a euphemism.
Speaker 8: My sister, Mary, is this her herbs?
Speaker 2: Mary's herbs sounds like an alternative rock band playing on
Speaker 2: k Rock in nineteen ninety six. All right, let's take
Speaker 2: a break and we'll hit the mailbag. Right, we're back
Speaker 2: as listeners of the show. No, by the way, before
Speaker 2: we get to the mail bag, I unveiled the twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three NFL Superstar Club on the previous episode of
Speaker 2: Around the NFL. As always creates a lot of debate.
Speaker 2: Not everyone's going to be happy about it, and certainly
Speaker 2: a lot of people in my mentions were, Now there's
Speaker 2: another person, Mark who wasn't thrilled. It happens to be
Speaker 2: someone that's connected to the Quentin Tarantino film universe, the
Speaker 2: actor Christopher Walkin on this show, who we know Mark
Speaker 2: has a connection to the NFL that a lot of
Speaker 2: other people aren't aware of.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we discovered you get to know certain
Speaker 5: people like by doing the show, and some of them
Speaker 5: are surprising. But that Christopher walking is an entrenched New
Speaker 5: York Giants fan and like you don't hear he doesn't
Speaker 5: You don't hear that publicly, but like a rabid Giants fan.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited to hear what he had to say.
Speaker 2: Well, don't speak too soon, because we're both you know.
Speaker 2: I think everybody in the room here big fans of
Speaker 2: Walkin's work, but he wasn't a big fan of the
Speaker 2: latest Superstar club. Let's listen in. According to our feedback system.
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Speaker 1: My ears, do they deceive me? I am listening to
Speaker 1: Around the NFL, a program for which I have always
Speaker 1: had the utmost respect and pow. I'm flawed by the
Speaker 1: revelation the squon Barkley say quads himself running back for
Speaker 1: my beloved Warriors from East Rutherford, New Jersey, has been
Speaker 1: snubbed by the Superstar club. This is nothing less than
Speaker 1: a total travesty. Anyone who is a fan of my
Speaker 1: long running Big Blue fan podcast, Walking with Giants, Well,
Speaker 1: sureley understand my disappointment, my righteous anger over this heinous
Speaker 1: omission by the Academy. How could they be so mich guided,
Speaker 1: so obtuse hot Acheson and his entire family. And I'll
Speaker 1: be damn sure the powers that be I'm made aware
Speaker 1: of my fury.
Speaker 6: Walk him out. His weapon of choice is threats.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 3: Are we in trouble?
Speaker 5: Are we?
Speaker 3: Should we be watching our six? What's going on now?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 6: We're walking on broken glass.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the next episode of Walking with Giants probably
Speaker 2: is gonna be a lot of hissing. I think there,
Speaker 2: Mark and if you don't want to be in the
Speaker 2: line of fire of a walk in the legendary figure
Speaker 2: in Hollywood.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people are seeing the passion for beyond
Speaker 5: the acting, beyond the Thespian realms for Big Blue. But
Speaker 5: I hope he listened to the show closely enough, because
Speaker 5: he's got to be His issue has to be with you, Dan.
Speaker 5: You left to saque out. He was in my in
Speaker 5: my group, and I mean, you know, if anything, I
Speaker 5: hope that Christopher Walking can parse the different there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Mark on that.
Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I don't. It didn't sound like based
Speaker 2: on what I was hearing, that he was differentiating.
Speaker 5: Anything like that absurds me because that relationship mattered.
Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Well that's a little sobering right there,
Speaker 2: to be quite honest with you, But we are going
Speaker 2: to soldier on here and open up the mail bag, which,
Speaker 2: like I said, sometimes the listeners they really blow it
Speaker 2: and they quite frankly disappoint me, Like how Christopher Walk
Speaker 2: in Hollywood Legend is disappointed by the Superstar Club. That's
Speaker 2: how I feel sometimes when I open up the mail
Speaker 2: bag and I just see garbage.
Speaker 3: Like Dan in full dad mode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like, yeah, I'm not I'm not mad, I'm disappointed, son.
Speaker 2: Now take out the garbage. I now will say, I'm
Speaker 2: proud of the listeners for what they've done. Great questions,
Speaker 2: we're gonna take turns. We all grab some. In fact,
Speaker 2: you know what, Connie get us going with the first question?
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 3: Okay, great, so let's start. You know, I love this one.
Speaker 4: It was I saw it last night and I immediately
Speaker 4: started writing all sorts of notes down because it kind
Speaker 4: of goes perfectly with the show, and I want to
Speaker 4: make sure I have the guy's name who sent it
Speaker 4: in because he wanted to know about our favorite ATN
Speaker 4: memories and that he has been a longtime listener of
Speaker 4: the show, and so he wants the top moments.
Speaker 3: Isaiah Cox was wondering. Some that come to mind.
Speaker 4: Are Wes's hat win, Wes's toaster with Damashek, the interview
Speaker 4: with Tony Romo. So we wanted to know our favorite
Speaker 4: or most memorable moments. And he's been a listener since
Speaker 4: middle school, just graduated college, so he's grown up with us.
Speaker 2: Well what he started in middle school, now he graduated college.
Speaker 2: What does that mean for us?
Speaker 5: Sessler, I mean, we're about five years away from exiting
Speaker 5: the planet probably.
Speaker 2: That is in all. Honestly, that's incredible. That is such
Speaker 2: a cool thing to look at it from that perspective.
Speaker 2: I kind of look at things with favorite memories. Obviously,
Speaker 2: Wes being around always is are the best memories. So
Speaker 2: I and I think about specifically, you know the beginning
Speaker 2: of our podcast where we started to really feel like
Speaker 2: we were gaining some traction, and those those days where
Speaker 2: you know, we would be hanging out together after shows
Speaker 2: and you know, you kind of felt like we were
Speaker 2: doing something that maybe not everyone was paying attention to,
Speaker 2: but we knew the show was growing and the audience
Speaker 2: was growing, and it was like four buddies doing it together.
Speaker 2: So that's not a specific memory, but that's kind of
Speaker 2: when I think about what makes me happiest about this show.
Speaker 2: And maybe the Wes specific memory is after he'd beat
Speaker 2: cancer the first time and we we did our live
Speaker 2: show together and everything in the world was in its
Speaker 2: right place. To quote Tom Yorke, that would be my
Speaker 2: favorite memory, being on stage and coming and coming off
Speaker 2: stage and market before we went on and being huddled
Speaker 2: up together and like just taking in the moment.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you encapsulated so much of
Speaker 5: how I feel, because I can't come up with a
Speaker 5: with a top. But there were errors to our show
Speaker 5: and that era where like when you weren't on the
Speaker 5: air doing a show, you were out hanging out together.
Speaker 5: There was a lot of you know, we were younger,
Speaker 5: there weren't there weren't as many kids in the picture.
Speaker 5: It it was a different time, and I think that
Speaker 5: our friendships were that made the show what it is,
Speaker 5: like we're very much alive like when we were outside
Speaker 5: the building. But I will tell you, like our London
Speaker 5: trips were incredible. But one thing that really showed me
Speaker 5: that I was thinking about the way that our show
Speaker 5: runs when we're not on the air was we went
Speaker 5: to Sky Sports once and they separated us into two groups.
Speaker 5: Greg and West were put on a little vehicle with
Speaker 5: like a bunch of softball questions about fantasy football and
Speaker 5: a nice couch and they had like oor glasses of
Speaker 5: orange juice.
Speaker 2: I was like a young beautiful woman that was interviewing them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, like a rising star. And it was just
Speaker 5: this casual, beautiful, flowing conversation. Then they put Dan and
Speaker 5: I onto Sky News.
Speaker 2: But they put it's in a freight elevator market sent
Speaker 2: us down the newsroom.
Speaker 5: But then the questions were like it was before the season,
Speaker 5: but they were It was like the easiest question was
Speaker 5: a twenty second like hot like a fireball about Colin Kaepernick,
Speaker 5: And like Dan and I thought we were just getting
Speaker 5: some who might win the NFC East, and like both
Speaker 5: of us were also being rushed because this we were
Speaker 5: like the last part of the segment, and so while
Speaker 5: we were answering these questions, the woman off screen that
Speaker 5: anchor was looking at us being like, go go go,
Speaker 5: go go go. So Dan and I just like left,
Speaker 5: like having lost five or six pounds due to sweat.
Speaker 2: And then I remember going back up to the main
Speaker 2: air the staging area and seeing like Greg and West
Speaker 2: laughing it up with this beautiful woman. And meanwhile Mark
Speaker 2: and I were just getting like grilled on live television
Speaker 2: in London about race relations in America, and it was like,
Speaker 2: get we got to get out of here.
Speaker 6: It makes me think of the conceit of the Fantasy
Speaker 6: Corner where everything is all great, and then because is
Speaker 6: on there dodging helicopters and bullets, and I'm glad that
Speaker 6: you were there with them.
Speaker 2: That's a great one, Mark, you're up next.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait real quick, I just
Speaker 4: want to throw out a couple of answers to the
Speaker 4: question because one of my favorites was when wes Ada
Speaker 4: softball pants that that whole situation, the lead up to
Speaker 4: it was so funny. I still don't understand how it
Speaker 4: even happened. And there were zippers right, like somehow the
Speaker 4: zippers obviously, but to right the first pridecast after COVID
Speaker 4: when we all got together and we all actually like
Speaker 4: did the show again in each other's presence, and it
Speaker 4: was at the bar and a helicopter landed next to
Speaker 4: us in the middle of the show, and yes, my
Speaker 4: dad was there. He was talking about UFOs. It was
Speaker 4: the kickoff to Dad Summit. That was one of my favorites.
Speaker 4: A very random one that always comes to mind, and
Speaker 4: it feels like a sleeper. Was the episode that you
Speaker 4: guys did at the Owner's Meetings and you interviewed Andy
Speaker 4: Reid in one of the segments, and I just remember
Speaker 4: it being so good and Andy played along so well,
Speaker 4: so that was great. And then obviously my first show
Speaker 4: with you guys.
Speaker 3: Like uh yeah, and it.
Speaker 4: Was like, the listeners were so great and it was
Speaker 4: the first time that I wasn't called like a stupid
Speaker 4: bitch on Twitter, and it was just very nice to
Speaker 4: be supported. And I immediately knew that you guys were
Speaker 4: obviously great, but like the listeners were an extension almost
Speaker 4: of the podcast.
Speaker 2: I love that beautiful, beautiful answer. Yeah, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: that is funny that that helicopter landing at the dur
Speaker 2: of the podcast.
Speaker 4: That was it was so chaotic that entire episode was
Speaker 4: just chaos.
Speaker 5: All right, Mark, you're up, all right, we will We'll
Speaker 5: go do a little bit of a football aspect.
Speaker 2: Wait to get I started, Connie. That's yeah, I got
Speaker 2: the warmth in the room here the virtue.
Speaker 5: I guess this is like, actually, maybe this isn't football,
Speaker 5: but I'm reading it as a football scenario. What take
Speaker 5: were you the most wrong on? And this is from
Speaker 5: Maddy Crocker, and I'd say, over the course of as
Speaker 5: long as you've been on this show, what is the
Speaker 5: thing that you just simply got the most strikingly incorrect.
Speaker 2: I'll go first, Tom Brady's regression in the late twenty tens,
Speaker 2: the gradual decline that that turned out to be an
Speaker 2: incorrect take, and it would be probably my most high
Speaker 2: profile incorrect take, So that would be my answer. More recently, though,
Speaker 2: I wasn't alone on this, but me and a lot
Speaker 2: of other people in January were ready to hand the
Speaker 2: NFL to Joe Burrow and Pat Mahomes and the chiefs
Speaker 2: are like, nah, bro, this is not their time. It's
Speaker 2: still my time. So those are my answers there. Sorry, Patrick,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to offend you or talk my talk. Tim.
Speaker 2: If you want to talk talk yo shit, pimp the
Speaker 2: Colts for me.
Speaker 4: Like last season, I feel like it's still something that
Speaker 4: haunts me.
Speaker 3: I was so all in on them.
Speaker 4: I talked NonStop about the Colts every single prediction. Any
Speaker 4: time that I could talk about the Colts, I would
Speaker 4: talk about the Colts. And then I watched the Colts
Speaker 4: and it was awful.
Speaker 6: Mine might have come on my last appearance on the show.
Speaker 6: We're picking spicy players and I'm put a sandwich on
Speaker 6: Jalen Rager catching forty balls. So we'll see if that
Speaker 6: is the most wrong. It probably is. Yeah. No, No,
Speaker 6: in fact, let's go ahead and say that's the most wrong,
Speaker 6: even though why not? Why not have it happened? I
Speaker 6: should have.
Speaker 2: You're pretty smart guy, Patrick, if that is the worst
Speaker 2: take you've ever had on the show, Jalen Rager forty catches.
Speaker 6: I also don't necessarily have the mental capacity to remember
Speaker 6: all the times I was wrong.
Speaker 3: So why is that because.
Speaker 6: I'm not very smart?
Speaker 2: Colleagues?
Speaker 5: No, Mark, uh So, I got a couple quick ones,
Speaker 5: and I think that you know, we don't need to
Speaker 5: go deep into content because they're obvious. For the most part.
Speaker 5: Johnny Manziel Everything to do with Johnny Manziel I was
Speaker 5: quite wrong about. I had some hot takes about Shaq
Speaker 5: Barrett when he had like one big game and said
Speaker 5: that he was a flash in the pan. He went
Speaker 5: on to like dominate the entire season. I heard about
Speaker 5: it every week. There was a point a number of
Speaker 5: years ago when I called the Arizona Cardinals the most
Speaker 5: interesting team in the NFC, and from that point on
Speaker 5: they went like one in five and were destroyed in
Speaker 5: the playoffs by the Rams. So incorrect, and I think
Speaker 5: everything to do with Chip Kelly. I'd end there because
Speaker 5: I was so into the concept of it, writing you know,
Speaker 5: long articles and think pieces and believed it was going
Speaker 5: to revolutionize the NFL. And he was gone like three
Speaker 5: years later.
Speaker 3: Remember the smoothies.
Speaker 4: It was like the first time that like he was
Speaker 4: doing individualized smoothies.
Speaker 3: Everything was hurry up.
Speaker 4: The defense hated him, like everyone was gassed by week nine.
Speaker 6: Everything was sports science, literally everything like it's like the
Speaker 6: way they opened the door. It's like, this is revolutionizing football.
Speaker 3: Time of possession does not matter.
Speaker 2: Mark, don't forget about every undrafted white running back that's
Speaker 2: ever succeeded in the preseason.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I could have made the list longer.
Speaker 5: I just you know, the.
Speaker 2: Zach Xenter All Stars. We could all make the list longer.
Speaker 2: All Right, I'll go next. This one is Chargers based,
Speaker 2: and I thought it was kind of interesting because you know,
Speaker 2: it's not something that gets a lot of talk, but
Speaker 2: it is a conversation piece that bubbles underneath. I think
Speaker 2: on Twitter in certain corners, Colton Ketner asked the question,
Speaker 2: why are the Chargers and Herbert overhyped every year just
Speaker 2: to miss the playoffs? Occasionally be first round one and
Speaker 2: done so? How many times before this stops? I think
Speaker 2: my feeling on this is Herbert is a stud. He's
Speaker 2: a superstar. We just talked about the Superstars Club, so
Speaker 2: I'm in on Herbert. But I think it is fair
Speaker 2: for people who ask, well, there was almost in some
Speaker 2: ways on the Twitter verse it became a little bit
Speaker 2: of an echo chamber, like you better see justin Herbert
Speaker 2: as the legend that he is and view him instantly
Speaker 2: as this incredible, once in a generation star. But then
Speaker 2: he got to look at what has he done so far,
Speaker 2: and he's entering I think his third year's starter, maybe
Speaker 2: fourth year. I think this is an important year for Herbert.
Speaker 2: I think because people will when the Chargers falter with
Speaker 2: him behind center, will point to whether it's the head
Speaker 2: coach or the coordinator, or the injuries around the team,
Speaker 2: and a lot of cases that's fair. But I also
Speaker 2: think if you truly are as great as you hear
Speaker 2: people that are smart about football talk about Herbert and
Speaker 2: almost hushed tones, it's time for him to do something,
Speaker 2: put the team on his back perhaps and make a
Speaker 2: run deep into the playoffs, rather than do what he's
Speaker 2: been doing, which has been a big producer statistically and
Speaker 2: his great highlight guy. Maybe this is a big year
Speaker 2: for Herbert because it is a good ross Patrick. This
Speaker 2: is a team and you could there are question marks
Speaker 2: at certain places. Head coach, for me, is one of them.
Speaker 2: I know they address play caller and have that situation
Speaker 2: maybe upgraded. But Herbert, get up and go and show
Speaker 2: us that you really are that special guy.
Speaker 6: And all it takes is one right to silence the
Speaker 6: win one like yesterday we celebrated John Elway's birthday. Right,
Speaker 6: and through the benefit of hindsight, it's like, oh, it's
Speaker 6: John elwayd but he didn't always win, right. These things
Speaker 6: happen late sometimes, and it completely changed things. We had
Speaker 6: Chargers Day yesterday on Total Access and I'm thinking, Yay,
Speaker 6: we're gonna talk about the Chargers. Baldy was excortiating the Chargers.
Speaker 6: We did like two minutes of horrible tackling video, and
Speaker 6: it's like, they're never gonna win if they can't do this,
Speaker 6: Like Herbert's not out there missing tackles. You know he
Speaker 6: sure you can make the case that, yeah, Joe Burrow
Speaker 6: and Patrick Mahomes aren't going to see the Jags score
Speaker 6: four consecutive touchdowns and come back and win that game.
Speaker 6: But also, you know, you need you need other guys
Speaker 6: to make plays. I think I think they'll come through.
Speaker 6: But we talk about them because they're a team just
Speaker 6: like everybody else, and like, don't be mad. We would
Speaker 6: discuss a team that's fun to watch with fun players,
Speaker 6: like sometimes only one only one team gets to win.
Speaker 6: So ultimately I feel like we.
Speaker 5: Talk about I feel like I'd be on Patrick's corner
Speaker 5: on this one too, because I think part of the
Speaker 5: question was more globally about why are the Chargers always overhyped,
Speaker 5: and that predates Justin Herbert, because they've kind of had,
Speaker 5: outside of a couple of years, a solid roster year
Speaker 5: after year, like they're in the mix, and right now
Speaker 5: they certainly have one of the better rosters in the AFC.
Speaker 5: And I'm the Patrick Pard. For me is that I
Speaker 5: can't just bake in and assume that the team's gonna
Speaker 5: have terrible, ghoulish luck like in critical moments year after year,
Speaker 5: Like is that actually something that a team creates? But
Speaker 5: then the Chargers keep doing it, so you feel like
Speaker 5: a double fool when it happens again.
Speaker 4: Well, especially coming off the game against the Jags that
Speaker 4: was brutal.
Speaker 3: But Justin Herbert, he's he'll be healthier.
Speaker 4: We saw him a couple of times kind of hobbling
Speaker 4: around last season after he took some shots, or remember
Speaker 4: that one the Thursday night game that he got put
Speaker 4: back into. But also I think I'd be interested to
Speaker 4: hear what the Baldy segment was with the offensive line,
Speaker 4: because I thought that they would be better this year
Speaker 4: because they are also healthier. But the receiving corps I
Speaker 4: think is deeper too because they drafted Quentin Johnston, so
Speaker 4: in theory justin Herbert should have a little bit more help,
Speaker 4: and with Kellen Moore there, maybe it works even better.
Speaker 2: Make a run. Let's go, Patrick, You're up all right?
Speaker 6: This one comes from George O'Donnell, and I like it
Speaker 6: because it's weird, because I'm weird which team would be
Speaker 6: top of the NFL if offense had to play defense
Speaker 6: for a season and the defense had to play offense.
Speaker 6: Special teams can just stay put because there's three and
Speaker 6: I guess we couldn't do a one for one trade.
Speaker 6: I would incorporate some special teamers in it, though, and
Speaker 6: I'm actually I guess I'll just take it and go first.
Speaker 6: I'll take the Philadelphia Eagles before Colleen does, because I
Speaker 6: would love to see Jala play linebacker and as well
Speaker 6: as we could have Davante at corner. I don't know
Speaker 6: how much Hitt and he could do, but he could
Speaker 6: do it. I think it would work. And also like
Speaker 6: Lane and some of the guys could flip over, I
Speaker 6: think it would make perfect sense.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would love to see it, but also
Speaker 4: I would not love to see anyone get hurt doing this,
Speaker 4: but I feel like that is part of the exercise.
Speaker 3: I think too.
Speaker 4: What about I was thinking maybe the forty nine Ers
Speaker 4: defense could play offense, especially if Kyle Shanahan is running things,
Speaker 4: because obviously he can scheme things up. But then I
Speaker 4: was thinking about the Cowboys defense and Michael Parsons he
Speaker 4: played running back before, and you have Trayvon Diggs who
Speaker 4: could easily be a wide receiver, so that would be
Speaker 4: another interesting switch too.
Speaker 2: What if? What if? Because this question kind of breaks
Speaker 2: my brain, so I don't really have a little bit
Speaker 2: a conventional answer, but I'll say this, what if, Because
Speaker 2: we're basically naming just good teams right now, what if
Speaker 2: there's like a really bad team or a team we
Speaker 2: don't think is going to be very good. If you
Speaker 2: just flip them, they became unbelievable, Like all the defensive
Speaker 2: players on the Panthers right now would be incredible offensive
Speaker 2: talents and vice versa. Like maybe that's my answer the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5: I think the Titans. That's where my mind went too,
Speaker 5: was like maybe a team has done such a poor
Speaker 5: job of self scouting that they've actually just need to
Speaker 5: flip the line of scrimmage and off they go. But
Speaker 5: my first instinct was with Colleen I thought, like, if
Speaker 5: you have to trust your coaching staff to do something
Speaker 5: that no coaching staff's ever done, like I'll roll the dice.
Speaker 5: And this sounds like a trope for me because I'm
Speaker 5: always talking about Coline Shana, but like he could take
Speaker 5: a defensive lineman and probably get him to complete fifteen
Speaker 5: passes a.
Speaker 2: Game until the fourth quarter in a big spot.
Speaker 5: That's very fair.
Speaker 4: That. No.
Speaker 6: I'm also kind of thinking about the Browns a little
Speaker 6: bit because, like, you watch enough Miles Garrett basketball highlights
Speaker 6: and they're like, Okay, like this this is silly. So
Speaker 6: have Miles at a tight end and Nick Chubb could
Speaker 6: play whatever he wants like.
Speaker 2: Safety.
Speaker 4: I was literally googling like Miles Garrett, and I was
Speaker 4: trying to see if you played other positions at any
Speaker 4: point in his career, like in high school or even
Speaker 4: like great school, like going back, because yes, I could.
Speaker 3: See it too.
Speaker 2: Something to think about the Superstar Club just one deep
Speaker 2: right now with Kelsey Miles Garrett as a field stretching
Speaker 2: tight end. I kind of like that. I like that, Colleen, Oh, right,
Speaker 2: mail bag?
Speaker 4: Remember hey, okay, this one comes from Christopher w and
Speaker 4: he says that he used to love, spending a boring
Speaker 4: work day tweeting random songs back and forth with Wes.
Speaker 4: So how about he said, how about me a random
Speaker 4: song you like? So send me, I think, or tweet
Speaker 4: me a random song you like, nothing too heavy, not
Speaker 4: a favorite, just a good song. And I've been in
Speaker 4: this like I've been NonStop listening to music from like
Speaker 4: the moment I.
Speaker 3: Get up to the moment I go to bed.
Speaker 4: Like I'm sure John hates it, but like he will
Speaker 4: wake up and there will immediately be tunes on in
Speaker 4: the house. And I've been going through a little bit
Speaker 4: of like a dancy phase. So I would like to
Speaker 4: throw out their High Love by dim Sum. I think
Speaker 4: Sessler would really love it too, So check that out.
Speaker 4: Also Come to Me by Lily and Madeline and Offenbach.
Speaker 4: That's another good one. Good summer, good summer tunes, feel good,
Speaker 4: their upbeat, they're good to drive to.
Speaker 3: And night drive by John Splithoff.
Speaker 2: I got three, got three from the mm HM mark
Speaker 2: good ones. Well, maybe let's make a playlist. By the
Speaker 2: way off this, I like this.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if you need to put mine
Speaker 5: on the playlist, but like I was thinking of stuff
Speaker 5: that Wes and I used to listen to We're kind
Speaker 5: of like, I'm not sure anyone else likes this, like
Speaker 5: amongst our group, but like we would go to like
Speaker 5: the Cozy In and play like Van Morrison's entire Astral
Speaker 5: Weeks album, probably do the annoyance of some people there,
Speaker 5: but it was actually very much that that vibe. But
Speaker 5: the second West song that came into my head, and
Speaker 5: I don't know where this came from, like Bend Me,
Speaker 5: Shape Me, that old, uh like fifties sixties hit, because
Speaker 5: that's what Wes and I would, you know, say to
Speaker 5: you guys and sing to each other whenever they'd someone
Speaker 5: would some lug heead would drop in the studio and
Speaker 5: be like, now you've got to do five extra videos
Speaker 5: that we didn't tell you about, and like we were
Speaker 5: just like we thought we were getting out of here
Speaker 5: and just like bend Me, Shape Me, you know, we're
Speaker 5: just a part of the corporation. We'll do whatever you say.
Speaker 5: Forgot about that good.
Speaker 2: Ones, Eric, Eric behind the Glass. Let's let's make sure
Speaker 2: we're taking these down so we could build out the
Speaker 2: Spotify playlist.
Speaker 6: Patrick, The thing that popped in my head was Chicago
Speaker 6: twenty five or six to four. You know it's it
Speaker 6: always pops up on Random and I enjoyed every time
Speaker 6: Evanescence bring Me to life, you know, oh why not?
Speaker 6: And then oh my gosh, what could I do?
Speaker 2: That is move by Lula Chris.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there we go. Why not?
Speaker 2: Good ass songs and good question Christopher right now because
Speaker 2: I just took the boys to see the New Spider
Speaker 2: Man movie, which was all right, love the first three
Speaker 2: second one. Curious what you think pat on that one?
Speaker 2: H Am I Dreaming by Metro Boomin Aesop, Rocky and Royce.
Speaker 2: That's a great song. I've been playing that a lot.
Speaker 2: Song I loved last year Western Wind by Carle Ray Jepson.
Speaker 2: Uh a random ass U two song Dirty Day off
Speaker 2: Zoo Ropa nineteen ninety three. And then the last song
Speaker 2: Wes and I Vibe to Texas Son by Leon Bridges.
Speaker 2: Oh so good, such a West song, texted him as
Speaker 2: me as soon as I heard it, and he was like, yeap,
Speaker 2: been listening to that one constantly. Those are my entries.
Speaker 2: And Eric behind the glass, go ahead, add one of
Speaker 2: your of your own, as we well, that would be great.
Speaker 2: But all right, uh, who's up? Who goes second.
Speaker 5: I believe I am all right. Kyle Overholtzer asked this, Hey,
Speaker 5: Aten crew, longtime fan. First question of first tweet. I
Speaker 5: am active duty military stationed in Alaska and I miss
Speaker 5: being close to the NFL. My fun question is if
Speaker 5: there was an Alaskan NFL team, what do you think
Speaker 5: the mascot would be? I guess what we'd say? What
Speaker 5: would you call the team?
Speaker 2: This? This one felt easy to me. What did you have, Harry?
Speaker 5: I had the I don't. I was sitting out on
Speaker 5: my porch when I came up with this, and there
Speaker 5: was a lot of wild vehicles. But the Alaska hell
Speaker 5: Elves just like something a little.
Speaker 2: Near el Elves wouldn't wouldn't the Browns maybe get litigious
Speaker 2: about that because they got that stupid elf thing.
Speaker 5: They have like eight mile, They have like eight mascots.
Speaker 5: They just rebranded the dog.
Speaker 2: So it's like, Yeah, the hell Elves.
Speaker 5: Like Serve and I think it's sort of a mythical
Speaker 5: being of some sort. Typically you can do a lot
Speaker 5: with it.
Speaker 2: The mascot not always Hello La Lakers. The the mascot
Speaker 2: or team name is connected to the region in some way.
Speaker 2: Are there is there an elves like a demonic elves
Speaker 2: population somewhere and Alaska. I didn't. I don't know if
Speaker 2: I'll give you a.
Speaker 5: Firm answer on that, but I think it's just part
Speaker 5: of the you're creating a new world sort of.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was thinking because I thought it was a
Speaker 2: great name and it disappeared from a team move and oil,
Speaker 2: you know, oil, mass production of oil, and Alaska. Maybe
Speaker 2: still I don't know Seward's icebox. Learn that back in
Speaker 2: ninety the oilers, the Alaska oilers, bring it back. Let's go,
Speaker 2: let's fly. If it wasn't good enough for Houston, I
Speaker 2: think it could be good enough for the Alaska franchise.
Speaker 2: Oilers of the NHL could have an issue with that,
Speaker 2: but that we don't care about the NHL doesn't exist
Speaker 2: in my world.
Speaker 3: I feel like I have the perfect answer.
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: It's the Alaskan Arctic wolves. And yeah, okay, I'm biased
Speaker 4: because the wolves, but Arctic wolves are incredible. They can
Speaker 4: fast up to four to five months at a time,
Speaker 4: They survive sub zero temperatures with no clothes, and they
Speaker 4: can't dig dens in the ice, and they can eat
Speaker 4: up to twenty pounds of meat in one sitting, So
Speaker 4: I rest.
Speaker 2: My case, I would already sign off on that if
Speaker 2: you were the logo, if you were somehow a part
Speaker 2: of the logo itself.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'm thinking either like a singular verb like
Speaker 6: the frost or the allusions, right, and the logo could
Speaker 6: be the islands or whatever, but maybe the frost.
Speaker 2: Ooh, the Alaskan frost. I like that. This next ques
Speaker 2: question is from Thomas danelian. I hope I got that right, Tom,
Speaker 2: Tommy boy, you've done making the leap. But what player
Speaker 2: or coach do you see going the opposite way? A
Speaker 2: regression candidate, if you will. What would that be anyway?
Speaker 2: Is it so we have making the leap that's kind
Speaker 2: of our ip? Would that be faking the leap? No,
Speaker 2: you're moving back? Are you making the creep?
Speaker 5: Is it like like half baking the leap.
Speaker 2: Like the create like a nineteen sixties like dance move,
Speaker 2: but you're going backwards.
Speaker 6: Mistaking the leap like we thought they were going to leap,
Speaker 6: but they didn't.
Speaker 2: But this is somebody that I guess was, Oh no,
Speaker 2: it's somebody that you think is going to do it
Speaker 2: and then doesn't.
Speaker 4: Okay, anyway, like a fall like a fall from wherever.
Speaker 2: All right, well, let me throw out a couple of guys,
Speaker 2: because I kind of saw it as somebody that had
Speaker 2: established a level of production and now it's going to
Speaker 2: go in reverse. This is the second show in a
Speaker 2: row where I wish Greg was here because Gino Smith,
Speaker 2: I'm nominating he kind of tailed off a little bit
Speaker 2: at the end of last season, and now with more
Speaker 2: expectation and a bigger paycheck, and you know in Seattle,
Speaker 2: will Gino be as good as he was last year? Probably,
Speaker 2: but he could be faking the leap also last year.
Speaker 2: Throw that out there. What do you guys think.
Speaker 5: I'd agree with that. I think there's a case to
Speaker 5: be made. He's got a really good roster around him.
Speaker 5: I think that some of the good stuff we saw
Speaker 5: from Gino Smith were legitimately who he is as a player.
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't predict doom. I'll give you mine real quick,
Speaker 5: because mine's a coach. I kind of I did see
Speaker 5: that tweet and I just saw the word coach, But
Speaker 5: I think he's a good coach. But Kevin O'Connell, the
Speaker 5: team goes thirteen and four. They won like nine games
Speaker 5: in the last couple of minutes, like it's this thing
Speaker 5: that's never going to happen again. To the Minnesota Vikings,
Speaker 5: they've spent the offseason like essentially just trying to reach
Speaker 5: their cap. They've cut a bunch of people. The defense
Speaker 5: was already the worst in the league last year. I
Speaker 5: don't know, I don't see them winning thirteen games like
Speaker 5: they see them winning nine. And then suddenly it's like
Speaker 5: it's Kevin O'Connell. Is he under a lot of pressure?
Speaker 5: Hot seat scenario?
Speaker 2: Is it fair to say with the Vikings though, that
Speaker 2: most of most of us and even probably a lot
Speaker 2: of Vikings fans saw through it a little bit that
Speaker 2: nobody ever really viewed that team as a powerhouse, And
Speaker 2: now with these the cost cutting measures that there's a
Speaker 2: general understanding that they're not going to be as good.
Speaker 2: And maybe that is good news for O'Connell in terms
Speaker 2: of expectations coming off last year.
Speaker 5: Maybe work for him, maybe, But I see what you're
Speaker 5: saying if everyone remains level headed, because if things turn ugly,
Speaker 5: no one's gonna want to factor that. You're right. I mean,
Speaker 5: I think if you want to take it to court,
Speaker 5: you'd have to bring all that stuff up. But we're
Speaker 5: talking about football fans, we're talking about talking heads. You know,
Speaker 5: things get ugly quick.
Speaker 2: Anybody else want to throw a name at there?
Speaker 4: I mean, I immediately my mind went to the Vikings.
Speaker 4: You could have multiple people just because of their point
Speaker 4: differential last year, how close all of those wins were.
Speaker 4: But I'm also just wondering right now in the moment
Speaker 4: about Jared Goff, would he be potentially someone who could
Speaker 4: regress with some of the changes that the offense has
Speaker 4: made in the offseason and the guys that they've drafted,
Speaker 4: is their philosophy changing?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was going to say, Like because
Speaker 6: making the leaps so much if it is perception and
Speaker 6: like the player could still be the same player, but
Speaker 6: circumstances could turn out a little bit different. And then
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, well, well they're bad now. But it's
Speaker 6: hard to have success. Like I don't think we can
Speaker 6: wipe away what Jared Goff did, but if we also
Speaker 6: can't like expect him to throw sixty touchdowns. You know,
Speaker 6: it's just at a certain point, you know, like Kevin
Speaker 6: O'Connell can't apologize for those wins, and I think six
Speaker 6: years from now, like those are still going to be wins,
Speaker 6: but if we could properly contextualize them as we should,
Speaker 6: it's like, well they got they got undressed in a
Speaker 6: playoff game at home by a team that wasn't very good.
Speaker 2: I'll throw one more out there, Josh Jacobs, and that's
Speaker 2: part of the reason why he wasn't put in the
Speaker 2: Superstar club for me, coming off a four hundred touch
Speaker 2: season on a Raiders team that's I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think they'll have worse quarterback play and you know, a
Speaker 2: very competitive division. You know, there is a track record
Speaker 2: or the bill come and do when a player gets
Speaker 2: that level of workload, how how he is the next season.
Speaker 2: Fantasy heads I would think should be a little bit
Speaker 2: wary as well. Patrick, I don't know what is the
Speaker 2: general vibe in the fantasy realm about Josh Jacobs. Is
Speaker 2: it all systems go that he's going to be the
Speaker 2: same guy or like, no, what's the vibe.
Speaker 6: I think people want to see something from the Raiders.
Speaker 6: They want to see like what's Jimmy going to be?
Speaker 6: Like what's this offense going to be? Like, you know,
Speaker 6: how's Josh gonna hold up? I'm not thinking everybody's gonna
Speaker 6: fly out there and have this reclamation, like the people
Speaker 6: who are acknowledging their mistake with McCaffrey last year. It's like,
Speaker 6: you take the good players that are going to be
Speaker 6: in good situations. We just don't know what Josh's situation
Speaker 6: is right now.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go try to be a little quicker
Speaker 2: kind of you're up, all right?
Speaker 3: I kind of want to put a sandwich on Josh
Speaker 3: Jacobs with you, Dan, but.
Speaker 2: We'll do that maybe for September.
Speaker 4: Okay, perfect, all right, forget it's fun, you know we will.
Speaker 4: There's no question, all right. The last question is okay,
Speaker 4: this is from Daniel Hall, and he said which division
Speaker 4: is most likely to be the twenty twenty two AFC
Speaker 4: West so high expectations coming in and then ends up
Speaker 4: being mostly paper tigers. And then which division is most
Speaker 4: likely to be the twenty twenty two NFC East low
Speaker 4: expectations coming in, ends up being deep and formidable. This question, Dan,
Speaker 4: as you mentioned earlier, breaking brains. This one broke my
Speaker 4: brain a bit. But I kept going back and forth
Speaker 4: with is the AFC South going to be better than
Speaker 4: people think with what they have done?
Speaker 3: Obviously the Jags. I think that they.
Speaker 4: Will win the division again, and now they have Calvin
Speaker 4: Ridley and you get more consistency and growth from Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 4: And then with the Colts, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 4: maybe Shane Steichen can work some magic with Anthony Richardson
Speaker 4: and his past with mobile quarterbacks and developing them in
Speaker 4: of offenses. Plus you have the Texans who drafted a
Speaker 4: ton of talent and brought in I really like the
Speaker 4: Dalton Schultz edition.
Speaker 3: Damian Pierce.
Speaker 4: He's a star there and Demico could actually turn around
Speaker 4: that defense with They have some.
Speaker 3: Good good players there.
Speaker 4: Drafted Will Anderson, Derek Stingley junior, so they have good pieces.
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering. Like the Titans, I think they're going
Speaker 4: to struggle, and I don't know when we'll see Will Levis,
Speaker 4: but I just I think that they might be better
Speaker 4: than we think.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. The AFC South that two rookie quarterbacks. It's
Speaker 2: a lot of variants.
Speaker 3: There could be three different new quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, three different quarterbacks. I'll nominate the NFC North
Speaker 2: actually as could be better. The Vikings. I think everyone
Speaker 2: is universally saying they're going to come way down to Earth,
Speaker 2: but they still have a core of players. Justin Jefferson's
Speaker 2: on that team still Kirk Cousins. I know opinions vary,
Speaker 2: but I don't think that offense is going to create her.
Speaker 2: I think Madison will keep the running game moving, and
Speaker 2: then Brian Flores is running the defense, so that could
Speaker 2: maybe help some things, even though he doesn't have a
Speaker 2: lot of talent to work with the Lions, I think
Speaker 2: we all feel like there is a positive outcome there
Speaker 2: potentially as a double digit win team. The Packers same thing.
Speaker 2: If Jordan Love plays well, he has some players around
Speaker 2: him and a winning pedigree for that organization. And then
Speaker 2: the Bears, like Justin Field's potential making the leap guy
Speaker 2: the rosters way better. That could go a couple different directions,
Speaker 2: but they could certainly be much more competitive. I think
Speaker 2: the other side of it, Mark is a kind of
Speaker 2: an easy one for me. I think everyone is looking
Speaker 2: at the AFC East and saying, oh yeah, like everyone's
Speaker 2: hyping up. Like whenever you're a division that's being hyped
Speaker 2: up includes the Jets and Dolphins as two teams, people
Speaker 2: are assuming you're going to be good, like it's probably
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Not both those teams are gonna be
Speaker 2: big time teams, and maybe neither are. But you have Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Pats.
Speaker 2: Everyone says it's the best division, but these things don't
Speaker 2: tend to work out that way.
Speaker 5: Well, I think, because we're talking about like last year's
Speaker 5: AFC West, where it was like can can four teams
Speaker 5: make the playoffs? Two of them were absolute disasters. The
Speaker 5: problem is you're playing each other. The Jets' schedule is
Speaker 5: so brutal. You're asking the Jets also as an organization,
Speaker 5: and to do something they've never really done. The Dolphins
Speaker 5: are new at this also. Right now, I trust the
Speaker 5: Dolphins a little bit more. The Bills come down earth
Speaker 5: a little bit. The Patriots, to me are sort of
Speaker 5: middle of the road. I could see a team winning
Speaker 5: the division with nine wins if they all like in
Speaker 5: a dog fight, eat each other up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was there was so much player movement and
Speaker 6: so much like high profile player movement last year, and
Speaker 6: so much hype for the entire division that I don't
Speaker 6: think I think it's gonna be a few years where
Speaker 6: we see that much hype for a division anymore. I
Speaker 6: think everybody's kind of taken their medicine, so like that,
Speaker 6: that feels like a perfect storm. But I'm with you
Speaker 6: on the east Dan, it could go either way.
Speaker 2: Okay, who's up next.
Speaker 6: I'll take the most predictable one ever.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: This comes courtesy of Johnny ridd Wimill Patrick admit that
Speaker 6: his take that momentum doesn't exist is complete garbage. The
Speaker 6: easy answer to Johnny is never. I feel like, honestly
Speaker 6: like we could come to the stasis here and acknowledge
Speaker 6: right that for some people maybe positive things does beget
Speaker 6: more positive things. But it's it's always been my contention
Speaker 6: that we don't know that, we don't know what players
Speaker 6: are going through. We don't know how they feel about themselves.
Speaker 6: Some of the greatest punt returners of all time, you know,
Speaker 6: you ask them what they're doing when the ball's coming,
Speaker 6: They're like, I'm scared to death. I don't want to
Speaker 6: get hit, and they ultimately end up scoring touchdowns. It's like,
Speaker 6: people are individuals, people are different, and we don't necessarily
Speaker 6: have all the data. So I just think, no matter
Speaker 6: how good you are, no matter how positive you're thinking,
Speaker 6: if you're lined up across from DeVante Adams, like the
Speaker 6: power of positive thought and going to keep you from
Speaker 6: him busting your ass, and so like that's that's just
Speaker 6: my belief. But maybe we could find a happy, happy medium.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry to everybody's personal belief system that I've offended,
Speaker 6: but these guys are professionals and positive thought and.
Speaker 5: Patrick, you've also you branded, You've you're this is part
Speaker 5: of your Patrick experience. Like even if, even in a
Speaker 5: private moment, if you come to a different fork in
Speaker 5: the road here and realize that you don't even agree
Speaker 5: with your own take, you just can never you got
Speaker 5: a part of the surrender.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, but the brand would. If somebody comes out
Speaker 6: and defines what it is and like shows me how
Speaker 6: it works, then clearly that's true for momentum astrology, you know,
Speaker 6: holistic health practices like just show me and I'm there.
Speaker 6: But I know that the error goes under the ring
Speaker 6: faster than it goes over the wing, and that generates lyft.
Speaker 6: I can't build an airplane, but I can conceptually see
Speaker 6: how it works, and so I'm okay with getting on one.
Speaker 6: But when you tell me that, like this energy that
Speaker 6: binds the galaxy together is moving things and then this
Speaker 6: team wins because God likes them more or something. I
Speaker 6: don't know. I'm just I just need to see some.
Speaker 4: God what positive vibrations? Come on and Patrick, it's great
Speaker 4: over here.
Speaker 3: The water's so nice.
Speaker 4: Try it out in momentum.
Speaker 5: I guarantee you. I can't always riffs like this.
Speaker 2: I can't get yeah, this one, we don't have enough
Speaker 2: time to really do this, but I will say that
Speaker 2: the Jalen Rager answer from earlier felt like a placeholder
Speaker 2: for you to formally apologize to people about momentum. But
Speaker 2: you're not doing it, and I respect your higg in
Speaker 2: the heels.
Speaker 6: Show me what it is like. Somebody explained it to
Speaker 6: me so that I can understand. See student, you know,
Speaker 6: just a bachelor.
Speaker 3: Some things are just abstract perfect.
Speaker 2: Up next, is I lost? Like the otder? What were
Speaker 2: you doing? Is Connie?
Speaker 3: No one knows?
Speaker 5: Is Colleen? Now?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 6: Colleen's all out? She's empty?
Speaker 2: Mark? Did you Mark throwing out there?
Speaker 5: Okay? Hold on, let me just scroll down.
Speaker 4: Mark already out of all of his applications.
Speaker 2: We've lost momentum for the segment because I didn't have it.
Speaker 5: How about this one? There is always a team that
Speaker 5: goes from worse the first. Who does everyone think it
Speaker 5: will be this year? The Jets came to mind, the
Speaker 5: Falcons came to mind for me.
Speaker 2: Let's see, let me give you the options. Okay, Jets, Browns, Texans, Broncos, Commanders, Bears, Falcons, Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Taking my fan leaning out of it. I'll stay out
Speaker 2: of the AFC East, and I will say the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 6: Sniped.
Speaker 2: That's momentum revenge.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's true. Yeah, I from here on out, anybody
Speaker 6: else want to throw it out there?
Speaker 3: Bears are Falcons.
Speaker 2: Maybe Mark can't say it, but he thinks of the Browns,
Speaker 2: and I think that's a good answer.
Speaker 5: Also, I don't think so. I could see them coming
Speaker 5: in second, but I don't. I don't think they've got
Speaker 5: the DNA to win.
Speaker 2: If you could see them coming in second, how could
Speaker 2: you not see any scenario where they come in first?
Speaker 5: What if they come in second? By three games?
Speaker 6: You know what, I'll say the Jets because Dan feels
Speaker 6: like he can't say it, so I'll say the judge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think you know that the Jets are
Speaker 2: a tough ask because I think the Bills will remain
Speaker 2: a you know, a Titan unless they come down, and
Speaker 2: then it does get really interesting. There we go, I
Speaker 2: do Mark. I like Mark's take that the nine wins
Speaker 2: wins the AFC East would be wild. That would be
Speaker 2: chaos for that division. Interesting Bills fans don't want to
Speaker 2: hear that. All right, I'll throw out one more. Let's see.
Speaker 2: What do I want to go? Let's see, let's see,
Speaker 2: let's see, let's see. Oh yeah, I wanted to touch
Speaker 2: on this. I thought this was interesting. This is talking
Speaker 2: about a little how do you make the game better?
Speaker 2: How do you help these officials? You know, here's the question.
Speaker 2: Why do you think the question is from faux real,
Speaker 2: sofo so real? Why do you think the NFL is
Speaker 2: fighting rule changes that could help the league, like sky
Speaker 2: judge or making every play and every penalty reviewable. I
Speaker 2: think it's mostly rooted guys in pace of play. And
Speaker 2: I was just I was thinking about this. NBA games
Speaker 2: are about two and a half hours typically. Major League
Speaker 2: Baseball shout out to Migo Hermon, by the way, perfect game.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, radically reinvented elements of their gameplay this season MLB
Speaker 2: and shaved like thirty minutes off game time, so they're
Speaker 2: coming into two thirty five now for a game. The
Speaker 2: average NFL game was three hours and twelve minutes last season.
Speaker 2: That's kind of been creeping upward through the years, and
Speaker 2: there's a twelve minute halftime that's not going to change.
Speaker 2: There are around I look this up, there are around
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty five commercials per quarter. That adds up
Speaker 2: to about one hundred commercials per game. And I'm going
Speaker 2: to tell you something as somebody who works for the NFL,
Speaker 2: but that's not changing either. Commercials will remain very prominent
Speaker 2: in a telecast of a game. But I think the
Speaker 2: NFL might be a little spooked with how the viewing
Speaker 2: habits of youth culture are. Adding elements that will slow
Speaker 2: down the game. To stop and check every play is
Speaker 2: something they don't want to do, and I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: them to do either. But maybe there's a medium here, Patrick,
Speaker 2: where you can add something like sky Judge without it
Speaker 2: being something that grinds the momentum of the game to
Speaker 2: a halt.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the momentum of the decision makers is
Speaker 6: a reluctance to change. We see that in so many aspects.
Speaker 6: We saw it when pass interference was reviewable and they
Speaker 6: kind of hamstrung the process. They didn't necessarily want to
Speaker 6: actually commit to it, because there's there's ways we could
Speaker 6: speed up the process, right, we don't need necessarily the
Speaker 6: dog and pony show of having the official go out
Speaker 6: to a thing, look into the hood, and walk it
Speaker 6: back out. Somebody could just look at it and say
Speaker 6: the pass was incomplete, like it shouldn't take forty five seconds,
Speaker 6: because these things are called in real time, so they
Speaker 6: should be able to be reviewed in real time. But
Speaker 6: they seem to be reluctant to take that process away
Speaker 6: because they want to show it to people for some reason.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't need to see it. Show me
Speaker 6: the replay, say it was incomplete. That's it. I think
Speaker 6: that's where they could do it.
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, give me one more.
Speaker 5: All right, here we go.
Speaker 2: I gave you all mine to be honest, Lee West, banger.
Speaker 5: I've given you everything.
Speaker 2: It's on the screen staring at Lee West. If you
Speaker 2: broke your leg and had to spend a couple of
Speaker 2: months bedbound, what would you do while you're in your
Speaker 2: bed eg? Board games, TV gaming, TV gaming or anything else,
Speaker 2: And first thing you would do when you could walk again.
Speaker 5: Okay, my bad. I do realize that I attacked it
Speaker 5: in my worksheet here, so apologies for slowing down the show.
Speaker 5: I think what I would do is like at the first,
Speaker 5: at the start of that experience, when I just realized
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be in this bed for like two months,
Speaker 5: like I'm going to do something really like life changing,
Speaker 5: like write a book or do you know, create something
Speaker 5: that I finally had that space. What I would wind
Speaker 5: up doing is probably like a bunch of edibles and
Speaker 5: playing like old Nintendo games that I couldn't beat as
Speaker 5: a kid and beat them as an adult journey.
Speaker 2: For you, we are on We're on this, We're on
Speaker 2: a similar path. I gave this some thought and I
Speaker 2: was like, I would finish Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace.
Speaker 2: I would learn how to play the acoustic guitar, but
Speaker 2: in reality, I would probably just like game like two
Speaker 2: hundred Pounds and play a load of MLB the show
Speaker 2: twenty three on my son's Nintendo switch.
Speaker 4: I prepared for the show by writing my notes down
Speaker 4: on actual note cards for some reason, very nice and
Speaker 4: on my list here, the number one thing is write
Speaker 4: a script. The number two is guitar, and I was
Speaker 4: also wondering, like how much mobility do I have? Would
Speaker 4: the would the guitar be a thing that I could
Speaker 4: do if I was bedbound?
Speaker 3: I think so.
Speaker 2: I think it's a broken leg, right, is that the injury?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, So you could like prop it on like
Speaker 4: a you know, a pillow or whatever, husband too, Yeah,
Speaker 4: prop it up on, John, That's all. I would take
Speaker 4: some online classes. I would learn how to do finances,
Speaker 4: since I have no idea how to do anything with finances.
Speaker 3: I would invest and I would take a stand up class,
Speaker 3: which is ironic.
Speaker 6: I would contact I remember a couple of years ago
Speaker 6: when Will Fuller had that great start and then he
Speaker 6: popped positive for ped and you kind of haven't.
Speaker 2: Seen him since, I would get him scene again.
Speaker 6: I would get in touch with Will Fuller and take
Speaker 6: whatever he was taking to get out of that bed
Speaker 6: as soon as possible. I it would be like a
Speaker 6: training montage. I don't know, like gripping exercises. I just
Speaker 6: I have I've always had problems sitting still. You guys
Speaker 6: know that work with me, and so it would be
Speaker 6: a real struggle. I'd have to get out of there
Speaker 6: and then play with my kids. Of course, will be
Speaker 6: the first out.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll be able to find Will Fuller.
Speaker 2: That man he gone. That man's gone, he gone.
Speaker 6: Whatever he was taking, give it to me, whatever good stuff.
Speaker 2: Closing up the mail bag, I told you they really
Speaker 2: stepped up this time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many questions and a lot of really good ones.
Speaker 5: I think one thing a clerical note for us, because
Speaker 5: sometimes we decided to do a mail bag like day
Speaker 5: of show and so it's just sitting out there for
Speaker 5: you know, ninety eight minutes. But we gave them a
Speaker 5: full earth cycle, a full day plus to come up
Speaker 5: with stuff, and I think it reached other parts of
Speaker 5: the world and the results are better.
Speaker 2: I've given them more runway in the past than they've failed.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to give them an of credit.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this. Let's focus on the positive that
Speaker 2: they succeeded here, okay, and we hope we gave answers
Speaker 2: that we're entertaining to the point where the podcast hasn't
Speaker 2: been shut off by now. Thank you to Patrick, you've
Speaker 2: said it all, you know, good luck in that studio
Speaker 2: wherever you are. And like the Russell Wilson full sized
Speaker 2: or like gigantic sized photo tells us to strive for
Speaker 2: every day in that office. Have some serious integrity over there, bro.
Speaker 6: And you'll get that picture here in two minutes.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back on Monday. We're doing a
Speaker 2: Monday show me and Greggy, so please tune in for that.
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Enjoy your holiday, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't care. Like if you're drinking bud Light, if you're
Speaker 2: drinking eight, if you're drinking water, be safe as you
Speaker 2: do it. Enjoy the holiday with your family here in
Speaker 2: the States and friends, and we'll see on the other
Speaker 2: side of the weekend. Well July fourth, on Tuesday, so
Speaker 2: that was premature, but anyway, who cares Until Monday, you
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