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Speaker 1: They Around the NFL podcast hads thoughts on Tarantino's OOVRA.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another edition of Around the NFL. My name

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Speaker 2: is Dan hansis coming to you from a virtual room

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Speaker 2: build with some heroes across the Southland. Patrick Clayban is

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Speaker 2: back with us love it, Mark Sessler, of course, and

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Speaker 2: Colleen Wilf, the woman who told us on the Tuesday program,

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Speaker 2: is in the midst of a Tarantino marathon. How's that going?

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 4: I just finished in Glorious Bastards. That's always been my

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Speaker 4: number one fave. It remains at the top of the list.

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Speaker 4: But I'm having a hard time right now slotting the

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Speaker 4: top tier pulp and kill Bill because I loved kill

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Speaker 4: Bill so much on the second watch, and I actually

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Speaker 4: like two better than one. But it's like, do I

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Speaker 4: like them enough to if I think if it's if

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Speaker 4: kill Bill one and two are being considered one movie

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Speaker 4: like Tarantino likes to go by, then I think I'll

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Speaker 4: put it over pulp Fiction. But if we're breaking it

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Speaker 4: up into individual kill Bill, then I would have to

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Speaker 4: go pulp fiction, kill Bill two, kill Bill one?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Is that a prepared answer?

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Speaker 3: I feel like I'm just really deep right now in

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Speaker 3: this thought.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised by that that you would me too.

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Speaker 3: I'm also surprised.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've been asked even because we're doing something later today.

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Speaker 5: We're answering my questions. But someone asked that Tarantino question

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Speaker 5: over and over, and it's like, kind of your top

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Speaker 5: five and kill Bill is never either one of them

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Speaker 5: are never in my They never break my top five.

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Speaker 5: What Also, it's like that sounds like we're like we're

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Speaker 5: slashing the film. It's it's just that there's five I

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Speaker 5: like better.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think and maybe like Colleen's experiencing this,

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Speaker 6: when you go back and watch and you kind of

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Speaker 6: detach everything from the context of when you watched it,

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Speaker 6: you kind of get a new perspective because like everything's

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Speaker 6: always changing and there's always little things that jump out

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Speaker 6: to you more. It's good. That's why rewatched are important.

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Speaker 2: Pulp fiction will always be my number one. Once upon

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Speaker 2: a Time in Hollywood is very securely in my number two.

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Speaker 2: I adore that movie, and then number three. It really

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Speaker 2: is a rotation for me, and I don't know where

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Speaker 2: I am right now. Maybe it's kill Bill, maybe it's

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Speaker 2: inglorious bastard. It's you know Jackie Brown. Mark we talked

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Speaker 2: about a lot that sneaks in sometimes and gets the

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Speaker 2: bronze medal.

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Speaker 5: It's so under Jackie Brown is my number three and

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Speaker 5: like I think it's still his most underrated movie of

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Speaker 5: all I really do.

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Speaker 2: All right, this is around the NFL, A study of

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Speaker 2: the complete works of Quentin Tarantino. Well, maybe one day,

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Speaker 2: not today's show. Today, we got a lot to get to.

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Speaker 2: It's a mail bag day. I like this. This is

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Speaker 2: gonna be fun. I like this quadrant. Greg's still in

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Speaker 2: mother in law Japan, enjoying his vacation, trying not to

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Speaker 2: bother him too much. Enjoy Greg. I hope you're one

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Speaker 2: with the culture over there and everyone's having a good time. Here.

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Speaker 2: We have this a great Sessler Wolf Claybon hansa quadrant

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Speaker 2: which I don't know how many of these you've had,

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Speaker 2: So let's see how it goes. Uh, the mail bag

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Speaker 2: is full and sometimes and I'm very I'm very honest

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Speaker 2: Patrick with the audience when they fail the mail bag prompt.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they just don't. You get too many of those, like,

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Speaker 2: oh what would you rather, you know, defeat or go

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Speaker 2: up against a giant duck or seven thousand mini ducks,

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Speaker 2: and it's like, shut up, stop, just stop. A great

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Speaker 2: question like it, Oh, if you were on a desert island,

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Speaker 2: which one of the heroes would just stop it?

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Speaker 5: You will dark that one up. And I think that

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Speaker 5: people have stopped sending that particular question.

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Speaker 2: But this week I thought the listeners killed it. And

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Speaker 2: we all kind of put our hand in there and

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Speaker 2: and are choosing some questions and we're going to go

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Speaker 2: around about It's gonna be good. Patrick. I like it.

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Speaker 6: I'm excited. This is my actual first Mailbag episode. I've

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Speaker 2: And you know, Patrick, you're a man with many interesting takes,

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is a perfect exercise for the

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Speaker 2: man they call Claybond. How far are you but your

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Speaker 2: inside NFL Network studios right now? How close are you

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Speaker 2: to the giant photo of Russell Wilson across a giant

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Speaker 2: staring at the camera and integrity splashed across him.

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Speaker 6: I always know exactly where I am in relation to

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Speaker 6: that picture, because integrity is important to me. I am

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Speaker 6: three hundred and fifty feet I think seventy two steps,

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Speaker 6: need me during this pod to take a picture of

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Speaker 6: integrity and tweet it and just say integrity, I will

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Speaker 6: do that.

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Speaker 4: You should definitely tweet it too, Dan, because he thought

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Speaker 4: it said dignity, which will be the Dignity Room.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, it's only slightly less ridiculous.

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Speaker 5: Well, I feel like there's a lot of art around

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Speaker 5: our building where like had had these, you know, they

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Speaker 5: a cliff. They're probably picking a different player for that image.

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Speaker 5: They've got a Odell Beckham that they repainted from a

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Speaker 5: him in Baltimore Raven at this point, so I don't know.

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Speaker 5: We're tracking that one closely.

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Speaker 2: It would be cool if there was like kind of

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Speaker 2: It's it's very serious photos of various figures in the

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Speaker 2: to stand for. I would like it. It was just

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Speaker 2: a very serious shot of us all around the NFL

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Speaker 2: gang and then just like Bozo's.

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Speaker 6: Crime the podcasts, it's a mark of art. My my

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Speaker 6: there's three hundred feet of stylized pictures of NFL legends

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Speaker 6: that run the full style gamut. There's like Jerry Rice

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Speaker 6: there's a random picture of Brett Favre. But it's not

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Speaker 6: Brett Favre. It's like a weird looking cartoon that has

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Speaker 6: nothing to do with the entire rest of the wall.

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Speaker 6: Somebody put in a lot of work, but it's I don't.

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Speaker 4: Sound like an easter egg of some sort. This was

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Speaker 4: like a purposeful I hain't no idea.

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Speaker 6: It's looks it looks like a like the Dilbert drawing

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Speaker 2: Artwork in theatric Somebody did that bort for You've gone

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Speaker 2: too far, Patrick, someone did that the effort.

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of art that that I don't necessarily

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Speaker 6: get shout out to them. They've got more talent to me.

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Speaker 6: I draw a stick figure, but I think it's appoorpriate

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Speaker 6: because Brett Favre is a cartoon.

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Speaker 3: You got to show us this.

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Speaker 7: Let's see at eight. We believe in truth and authenticity.

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Speaker 7: Our company is proudly based right here in Texas, and

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Speaker 7: all of our beer is brewed right here in the

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Speaker 7: good old USA, So I've got to call it like

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Speaker 7: it is. There are a lot of beer brands out

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Speaker 7: there that are trying to cash in on this holiday

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Speaker 2: Joey Aikman not just jumping into the beer wars with

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Speaker 2: his new Lagger eight, also the culture wars, apparently, mister

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Speaker 2: CLAYBN because it's not I wouldn't say it is vague

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Speaker 2: what he's going for here. If you're a real man,

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Speaker 2: if you're a real American, and you don't go for

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Speaker 6: He should have had a troop come stand on it

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Speaker 6: so it could literally support the troop, and then like

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Speaker 6: it would be the most troops supporting beer ever.

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Speaker 3: I learned how to flyover would be good too.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the news. Oh my god, I by

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Speaker 2: the way, seek that out and watch the entire video,

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Speaker 2: because he in case that wasn't on the nose enough,

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Speaker 2: and it ends it with a big old swig of

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Speaker 2: eight bad news, everybody. We got more gambling stuff to

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Speaker 2: talk about. It just came down before we start taping.

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Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers and Rashad Berry of the Indianapolis Colts and

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Speaker 2: free agent Demetrius Taylor are being suspended definitely through at

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Speaker 2: least the twenty twenty three season for betting on NFL games.

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Speaker 2: This season. Also, we had heard Rodgers was facing a

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Speaker 2: petite Frere, who was a starter all throughout last season,

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Speaker 2: this Rogers and Barry and on the side of Petite Freer.

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Speaker 2: In a statement to ESPN's Adam Schefter, he said the

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Speaker 2: legal under Tennessee law. It is only because it is

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Speaker 2: He went on to apologize, so he got got as well. Patrick.

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Speaker 2: This continues to reverberate across the league, and at some

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Speaker 6: Yeah, eventually, I think through discussion of this, I think

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Speaker 6: not talking about this because they'll come down, and if

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Speaker 6: So hopefully everybody gets it because this like guy's getting released.

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Speaker 6: That's I hate it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even like walking past a sports book

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Speaker 3: Like it is very, very I.

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Speaker 4: Think the policy is obviously tough to understand because these

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Speaker 4: the terms of the agreement like that is that's that's

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Speaker 5: It was interesting that Petit Freer said that, you know,

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Speaker 5: specific because he got six games. The others are indefinite.

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Speaker 5: They saw that case differently. It's it's it's Thursday turning

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Speaker 5: I feel like I would I would I would gamble

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Speaker 5: that there will be more of don't.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, don't don't.

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Speaker 5: I will. I will suggest to it there, I will,

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Speaker 5: I will have this. I will predict that there will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it done. What are we doing? Just

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 5: Mark Sessler, I mean, you know, like just an awful,

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Speaker 4: Oh, it like makes my chest tight right now even

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Speaker 2: tail off. Nobody's really getting hit for it anymore.

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Speaker 4: For twenty bro, yeah, you should have had Greg here

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Speaker 4: t him up first. But if this is if you

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Speaker 4: can walk into a store like essentially a bodega in

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Speaker 4: California and many other states and just buy cannabis anyone

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Speaker 4: off of the street, it doesn't make any sense to

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Speaker 4: me that this is a.

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Speaker 3: Problem in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: When these guys are going through what they are putting

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Speaker 4: their bodies physically through so much trauma every single week,

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Speaker 4: and then they're not allowed to use something that you're

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Speaker 4: neighbor can use, no problem.

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Speaker 3: It's just doesn't really add up. I think it should

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Speaker 3: be changed.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like I'm really high. I don't know

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Speaker 4: what that feels like, but I can guess.

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Speaker 5: Oh, oh really, because I feel like the estimate would

450
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Speaker 5: be that fifty to one hundred percent of the staff

451
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Speaker 5: of this show, including everyone on screen, has experimented with

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Speaker 5: this substance. But that's fine, I'll leave it right.

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Speaker 3: There, years past, years ago.

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Speaker 6: I think like my question would just be, with regards

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Speaker 6: to any particular substance, why are we testing for it?

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Speaker 6: That would be that would be my question to the league,

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Speaker 6: Like is it testing to ensure player safety? Or is

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Speaker 6: it some sort of respectability play? And like, if so,

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Speaker 6: who is it a respectability play too? Because this is

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Speaker 6: a product that's legal and utilized in most places, and

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Speaker 6: so like, who are we trying? What's the effort? That's

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Speaker 6: That's what That's all I want to know, is who

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Speaker 6: is it for? What's it what's it trying to do for?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 6: For what?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Makes me PARANOI. I don't like it. Some people love.

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Speaker 5: It, That's always been true.

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Speaker 2: You Dan, like give daddy a Tito's and let's fly

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Speaker 2: somewhere else.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 4: Also you have Aaron Rodgers talking about psychedelics and how

472
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Speaker 4: that should be decriminalized, and of course he is such

473
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Speaker 4: a strong figure in this league. So I feel like

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Speaker 4: the more people talk about it, the less the stigma

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Speaker 4: will be.

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Speaker 5: Do you remember the days though? Did you ever go

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Speaker 5: through this when like one time I got a like

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Speaker 5: a summer job where I found out and I, as

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Speaker 5: a youth, I did not do a lot of uh

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Speaker 5: smoking a tree on any level.

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Speaker 2: I just did not.

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Speaker 5: But I got caught at a party doing it once, okay,

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Speaker 5: and then like had like two days later found out

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Speaker 5: that I had to take a drug test for this

485
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Speaker 5: like nominal job, which I needed. And so you do

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Speaker 5: the thing where like all my friends like drink like

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Speaker 5: a gigantic jar of pickle juice, and so I spent

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Speaker 5: like an entire day drinking like not there, you know,

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Speaker 5: you take the pickles out and you just drink this

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Speaker 5: giant jar of pickle juice. Totally passed.

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Speaker 2: If you would have just run around the high school

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Speaker 2: track four times, like done four laps, it probably would

493
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Speaker 2: have done the same thing. But maybe pickle juice is

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Speaker 2: a better.

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Speaker 4: And ultimately, when I was in my school, my parents,

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Speaker 4: my mom washed a bag of weed and then brought

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Speaker 4: it over to me and.

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Speaker 3: Said, is this one of Mary's herbs? Mary's my sister

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Speaker 3: is this?

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Speaker 4: It was in the It was in the laundry, and

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Speaker 4: I was like, yes, actually it is, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 6: Mary thought I thought Mary's herbs was a euphemism.

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Speaker 8: My sister, Mary, is this her herbs?

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Speaker 2: Mary's herbs sounds like an alternative rock band playing on

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Speaker 2: k Rock in nineteen ninety six. All right, let's take

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Speaker 2: a break and we'll hit the mailbag. Right, we're back

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Speaker 2: as listeners of the show. No, by the way, before

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Speaker 2: we get to the mail bag, I unveiled the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three NFL Superstar Club on the previous episode of

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Speaker 2: Around the NFL. As always creates a lot of debate.

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Speaker 2: Not everyone's going to be happy about it, and certainly

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Speaker 2: a lot of people in my mentions were, Now there's

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Speaker 2: another person, Mark who wasn't thrilled. It happens to be

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Speaker 2: someone that's connected to the Quentin Tarantino film universe, the

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Speaker 2: actor Christopher Walkin on this show, who we know Mark

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Speaker 2: has a connection to the NFL that a lot of

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Speaker 2: other people aren't aware of.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we discovered you get to know certain

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00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 5: people like by doing the show, and some of them

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Speaker 5: are surprising. But that Christopher walking is an entrenched New

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Speaker 5: York Giants fan and like you don't hear he doesn't

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Speaker 5: You don't hear that publicly, but like a rabid Giants fan.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited to hear what he had to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't speak too soon, because we're both you know.

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Speaker 2: I think everybody in the room here big fans of

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Speaker 2: Walkin's work, but he wasn't a big fan of the

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Speaker 2: latest Superstar club. Let's listen in. According to our feedback system.

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Speaker 9: This is NFL that works. Andrew Ceciliado, you ever reached

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Speaker 9: the Around the NFL listener feedback service, please leave a

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Speaker 9: message after the toad.

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Speaker 1: My ears, do they deceive me? I am listening to

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL, a program for which I have always

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Speaker 1: had the utmost respect and pow. I'm flawed by the

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Speaker 1: revelation the squon Barkley say quads himself running back for

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Speaker 1: my beloved Warriors from East Rutherford, New Jersey, has been

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Speaker 1: snubbed by the Superstar club. This is nothing less than

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Speaker 1: a total travesty. Anyone who is a fan of my

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Speaker 1: long running Big Blue fan podcast, Walking with Giants, Well,

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Speaker 1: sureley understand my disappointment, my righteous anger over this heinous

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Speaker 1: omission by the Academy. How could they be so mich guided,

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Speaker 1: so obtuse hot Acheson and his entire family. And I'll

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Speaker 1: be damn sure the powers that be I'm made aware

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Speaker 1: of my fury.

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Speaker 6: Walk him out. His weapon of choice is threats.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 3: Are we in trouble?

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Speaker 5: Are we?

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Speaker 3: Should we be watching our six? What's going on now?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: We're walking on broken glass.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the the next episode of Walking with Giants probably

552
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Speaker 2: is gonna be a lot of hissing. I think there,

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Speaker 2: Mark and if you don't want to be in the

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Speaker 2: line of fire of a walk in the legendary figure

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Speaker 2: in Hollywood.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think people are seeing the passion for beyond

557
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 5: the acting, beyond the Thespian realms for Big Blue. But

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Speaker 5: I hope he listened to the show closely enough, because

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Speaker 5: he's got to be His issue has to be with you, Dan.

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Speaker 5: You left to saque out. He was in my in

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Speaker 5: my group, and I mean, you know, if anything, I

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Speaker 5: hope that Christopher Walking can parse the different there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with Mark on that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I don't. It didn't sound like based

565
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Speaker 2: on what I was hearing, that he was differentiating.

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Speaker 5: Anything like that absurds me because that relationship mattered.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, all right, Well that's a little sobering right there,

568
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Speaker 2: to be quite honest with you, But we are going

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Speaker 2: to soldier on here and open up the mail bag, which,

570
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Speaker 2: like I said, sometimes the listeners they really blow it

571
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Speaker 2: and they quite frankly disappoint me, Like how Christopher Walk

572
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 2: in Hollywood Legend is disappointed by the Superstar Club. That's

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Speaker 2: how I feel sometimes when I open up the mail

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Speaker 2: bag and I just see garbage.

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Speaker 3: Like Dan in full dad mode.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just like, yeah, I'm not I'm not mad, I'm disappointed, son.

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Speaker 2: Now take out the garbage. I now will say, I'm

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Speaker 2: proud of the listeners for what they've done. Great questions,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna take turns. We all grab some. In fact,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Connie get us going with the first question?

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Speaker 2: How about that?

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, so let's start. You know, I love this one.

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Speaker 4: It was I saw it last night and I immediately

584
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Speaker 4: started writing all sorts of notes down because it kind

585
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Speaker 4: of goes perfectly with the show, and I want to

586
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Speaker 4: make sure I have the guy's name who sent it

587
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Speaker 4: in because he wanted to know about our favorite ATN

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Speaker 4: memories and that he has been a longtime listener of

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Speaker 4: the show, and so he wants the top moments.

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Cox was wondering. Some that come to mind.

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Speaker 4: Are Wes's hat win, Wes's toaster with Damashek, the interview

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Speaker 4: with Tony Romo. So we wanted to know our favorite

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Speaker 4: or most memorable moments. And he's been a listener since

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Speaker 4: middle school, just graduated college, so he's grown up with us.

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Speaker 2: Well what he started in middle school, now he graduated college.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean for us?

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Speaker 5: Sessler, I mean, we're about five years away from exiting

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Speaker 5: the planet probably.

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Speaker 2: That is in all. Honestly, that's incredible. That is such

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Speaker 2: a cool thing to look at it from that perspective.

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Speaker 2: I kind of look at things with favorite memories. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: Wes being around always is are the best memories. So

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Speaker 2: I and I think about specifically, you know the beginning

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Speaker 2: of our podcast where we started to really feel like

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Speaker 2: we were gaining some traction, and those those days where

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Speaker 2: you know, we would be hanging out together after shows

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Speaker 2: and you know, you kind of felt like we were

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Speaker 2: doing something that maybe not everyone was paying attention to,

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Speaker 2: but we knew the show was growing and the audience

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Speaker 2: was growing, and it was like four buddies doing it together.

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Speaker 2: So that's not a specific memory, but that's kind of

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Speaker 2: when I think about what makes me happiest about this show.

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Speaker 2: And maybe the Wes specific memory is after he'd beat

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Speaker 2: cancer the first time and we we did our live

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Speaker 2: show together and everything in the world was in its

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Speaker 2: right place. To quote Tom Yorke, that would be my

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Speaker 2: favorite memory, being on stage and coming and coming off

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Speaker 2: stage and market before we went on and being huddled

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Speaker 2: up together and like just taking in the moment.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think you encapsulated so much of

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Speaker 5: how I feel, because I can't come up with a

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Speaker 5: with a top. But there were errors to our show

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Speaker 5: and that era where like when you weren't on the

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Speaker 5: air doing a show, you were out hanging out together.

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Speaker 5: There was a lot of you know, we were younger,

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Speaker 5: there weren't there weren't as many kids in the picture.

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Speaker 5: It it was a different time, and I think that

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Speaker 5: our friendships were that made the show what it is,

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Speaker 5: like we're very much alive like when we were outside

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Speaker 5: the building. But I will tell you, like our London

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Speaker 5: trips were incredible. But one thing that really showed me

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Speaker 5: that I was thinking about the way that our show

633
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Speaker 5: runs when we're not on the air was we went

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Speaker 5: to Sky Sports once and they separated us into two groups.

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Speaker 5: Greg and West were put on a little vehicle with

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Speaker 5: like a bunch of softball questions about fantasy football and

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Speaker 5: a nice couch and they had like oor glasses of

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Speaker 2: I was like a young beautiful woman that was interviewing them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, like a rising star. And it was just

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Speaker 5: this casual, beautiful, flowing conversation. Then they put Dan and

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Speaker 5: I onto Sky News.

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Speaker 2: But they put it's in a freight elevator market sent

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Speaker 2: us down the newsroom.

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Speaker 5: But then the questions were like it was before the season,

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Speaker 5: but they were It was like the easiest question was

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Speaker 5: a twenty second like hot like a fireball about Colin Kaepernick,

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Speaker 5: And like Dan and I thought we were just getting

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Speaker 5: some who might win the NFC East, and like both

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Speaker 5: of us were also being rushed because this we were

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Speaker 5: like the last part of the segment, and so while

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Speaker 5: we were answering these questions, the woman off screen that

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Speaker 5: anchor was looking at us being like, go go go,

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Speaker 5: go go go. So Dan and I just like left,

655
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Speaker 5: like having lost five or six pounds due to sweat.

656
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Speaker 2: And then I remember going back up to the main

657
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Speaker 2: air the staging area and seeing like Greg and West

658
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Speaker 2: laughing it up with this beautiful woman. And meanwhile Mark

659
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Speaker 2: and I were just getting like grilled on live television

660
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Speaker 2: in London about race relations in America, and it was like,

661
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Speaker 2: get we got to get out of here.

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Speaker 6: It makes me think of the conceit of the Fantasy

663
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Speaker 6: Corner where everything is all great, and then because is

664
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Speaker 6: on there dodging helicopters and bullets, and I'm glad that

665
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Speaker 6: you were there with them.

666
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Speaker 2: That's a great one, Mark, you're up next.

667
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Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait wait wait real quick, I just

668
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Speaker 4: want to throw out a couple of answers to the

669
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Speaker 4: question because one of my favorites was when wes Ada

670
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Speaker 4: softball pants that that whole situation, the lead up to

671
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Speaker 4: it was so funny. I still don't understand how it

672
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Speaker 4: even happened. And there were zippers right, like somehow the

673
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 4: zippers obviously, but to right the first pridecast after COVID

674
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Speaker 4: when we all got together and we all actually like

675
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Speaker 4: did the show again in each other's presence, and it

676
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 4: was at the bar and a helicopter landed next to

677
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Speaker 4: us in the middle of the show, and yes, my

678
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: dad was there. He was talking about UFOs. It was

679
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Speaker 4: the kickoff to Dad Summit. That was one of my favorites.

680
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Speaker 4: A very random one that always comes to mind, and

681
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Speaker 4: it feels like a sleeper. Was the episode that you

682
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Speaker 4: guys did at the Owner's Meetings and you interviewed Andy

683
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Speaker 4: Reid in one of the segments, and I just remember

684
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Speaker 4: it being so good and Andy played along so well,

685
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Speaker 4: so that was great. And then obviously my first show

686
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Speaker 4: with you guys.

687
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 3: Like uh yeah, and it.

688
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: Was like, the listeners were so great and it was

689
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Speaker 4: the first time that I wasn't called like a stupid

690
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 4: bitch on Twitter, and it was just very nice to

691
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: be supported. And I immediately knew that you guys were

692
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 4: obviously great, but like the listeners were an extension almost

693
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Speaker 4: of the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I love that beautiful, beautiful answer. Yeah, Oh my god,

695
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: that is funny that that helicopter landing at the dur

696
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Speaker 2: of the podcast.

697
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 4: That was it was so chaotic that entire episode was

698
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Speaker 4: just chaos.

699
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Speaker 5: All right, Mark, you're up, all right, we will We'll

700
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Speaker 5: go do a little bit of a football aspect.

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Speaker 2: Wait to get I started, Connie. That's yeah, I got

702
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 2: the warmth in the room here the virtue.

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Speaker 5: I guess this is like, actually, maybe this isn't football,

704
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 5: but I'm reading it as a football scenario. What take

705
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 5: were you the most wrong on? And this is from

706
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Speaker 5: Maddy Crocker, and I'd say, over the course of as

707
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Speaker 5: long as you've been on this show, what is the

708
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 5: thing that you just simply got the most strikingly incorrect.

709
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Speaker 2: I'll go first, Tom Brady's regression in the late twenty tens,

710
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: the gradual decline that that turned out to be an

711
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 2: incorrect take, and it would be probably my most high

712
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: profile incorrect take, So that would be my answer. More recently, though,

713
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: I wasn't alone on this, but me and a lot

714
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: of other people in January were ready to hand the

715
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: NFL to Joe Burrow and Pat Mahomes and the chiefs

716
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: are like, nah, bro, this is not their time. It's

717
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: still my time. So those are my answers there. Sorry, Patrick,

718
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to offend you or talk my talk. Tim.

719
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Speaker 2: If you want to talk talk yo shit, pimp the

720
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: Colts for me.

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00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: Like last season, I feel like it's still something that

722
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: haunts me.

723
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 3: I was so all in on them.

724
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 4: I talked NonStop about the Colts every single prediction. Any

725
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 4: time that I could talk about the Colts, I would

726
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: talk about the Colts. And then I watched the Colts

727
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: and it was awful.

728
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Speaker 6: Mine might have come on my last appearance on the show.

729
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 6: We're picking spicy players and I'm put a sandwich on

730
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Speaker 6: Jalen Rager catching forty balls. So we'll see if that

731
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 6: is the most wrong. It probably is. Yeah. No, No,

732
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Speaker 6: in fact, let's go ahead and say that's the most wrong,

733
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Speaker 6: even though why not? Why not have it happened? I

734
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 6: should have.

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Speaker 2: You're pretty smart guy, Patrick, if that is the worst

736
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 2: take you've ever had on the show, Jalen Rager forty catches.

737
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Speaker 6: I also don't necessarily have the mental capacity to remember

738
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 6: all the times I was wrong.

739
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Speaker 3: So why is that because.

740
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Speaker 6: I'm not very smart?

741
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: Colleagues?

742
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 5: No, Mark, uh So, I got a couple quick ones,

743
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 5: and I think that you know, we don't need to

744
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 5: go deep into content because they're obvious. For the most part.

745
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 5: Johnny Manziel Everything to do with Johnny Manziel I was

746
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: quite wrong about. I had some hot takes about Shaq

747
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 5: Barrett when he had like one big game and said

748
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 5: that he was a flash in the pan. He went

749
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Speaker 5: on to like dominate the entire season. I heard about

750
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 5: it every week. There was a point a number of

751
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 5: years ago when I called the Arizona Cardinals the most

752
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 5: interesting team in the NFC, and from that point on

753
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 5: they went like one in five and were destroyed in

754
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 5: the playoffs by the Rams. So incorrect, and I think

755
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 5: everything to do with Chip Kelly. I'd end there because

756
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 5: I was so into the concept of it, writing you know,

757
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 5: long articles and think pieces and believed it was going

758
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 5: to revolutionize the NFL. And he was gone like three

759
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Speaker 5: years later.

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Speaker 3: Remember the smoothies.

761
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Speaker 4: It was like the first time that like he was

762
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Speaker 4: doing individualized smoothies.

763
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Speaker 3: Everything was hurry up.

764
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Speaker 4: The defense hated him, like everyone was gassed by week nine.

765
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Speaker 6: Everything was sports science, literally everything like it's like the

766
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 6: way they opened the door. It's like, this is revolutionizing football.

767
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Speaker 3: Time of possession does not matter.

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Speaker 2: Mark, don't forget about every undrafted white running back that's

769
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Speaker 2: ever succeeded in the preseason.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I could have made the list longer.

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Speaker 5: I just you know, the.

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Speaker 2: Zach Xenter All Stars. We could all make the list longer.

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Speaker 2: All Right, I'll go next. This one is Chargers based,

774
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Speaker 2: and I thought it was kind of interesting because you know,

775
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: it's not something that gets a lot of talk, but

776
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Speaker 2: it is a conversation piece that bubbles underneath. I think

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Speaker 2: on Twitter in certain corners, Colton Ketner asked the question,

778
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Speaker 2: why are the Chargers and Herbert overhyped every year just

779
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: to miss the playoffs? Occasionally be first round one and

780
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 2: done so? How many times before this stops? I think

781
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Speaker 2: my feeling on this is Herbert is a stud. He's

782
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Speaker 2: a superstar. We just talked about the Superstars Club, so

783
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Speaker 2: I'm in on Herbert. But I think it is fair

784
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: for people who ask, well, there was almost in some

785
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: ways on the Twitter verse it became a little bit

786
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 2: of an echo chamber, like you better see justin Herbert

787
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 2: as the legend that he is and view him instantly

788
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: as this incredible, once in a generation star. But then

789
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: he got to look at what has he done so far,

790
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: and he's entering I think his third year's starter, maybe

791
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Speaker 2: fourth year. I think this is an important year for Herbert.

792
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Speaker 2: I think because people will when the Chargers falter with

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Speaker 2: him behind center, will point to whether it's the head

794
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: coach or the coordinator, or the injuries around the team,

795
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: and a lot of cases that's fair. But I also

796
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: think if you truly are as great as you hear

797
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: people that are smart about football talk about Herbert and

798
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: almost hushed tones, it's time for him to do something,

799
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: put the team on his back perhaps and make a

800
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: run deep into the playoffs, rather than do what he's

801
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 2: been doing, which has been a big producer statistically and

802
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: his great highlight guy. Maybe this is a big year

803
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: for Herbert because it is a good ross Patrick. This

804
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 2: is a team and you could there are question marks

805
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: at certain places. Head coach, for me, is one of them.

806
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: I know they address play caller and have that situation

807
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 2: maybe upgraded. But Herbert, get up and go and show

808
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: us that you really are that special guy.

809
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 6: And all it takes is one right to silence the

810
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 6: win one like yesterday we celebrated John Elway's birthday. Right,

811
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 6: and through the benefit of hindsight, it's like, oh, it's

812
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 6: John elwayd but he didn't always win, right. These things

813
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 6: happen late sometimes, and it completely changed things. We had

814
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 6: Chargers Day yesterday on Total Access and I'm thinking, Yay,

815
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 6: we're gonna talk about the Chargers. Baldy was excortiating the Chargers.

816
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 6: We did like two minutes of horrible tackling video, and

817
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 6: it's like, they're never gonna win if they can't do this,

818
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 6: Like Herbert's not out there missing tackles. You know he

819
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 6: sure you can make the case that, yeah, Joe Burrow

820
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 6: and Patrick Mahomes aren't going to see the Jags score

821
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 6: four consecutive touchdowns and come back and win that game.

822
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 6: But also, you know, you need you need other guys

823
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 6: to make plays. I think I think they'll come through.

824
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 6: But we talk about them because they're a team just

825
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 6: like everybody else, and like, don't be mad. We would

826
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 6: discuss a team that's fun to watch with fun players,

827
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 6: like sometimes only one only one team gets to win.

828
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 6: So ultimately I feel like we.

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Speaker 5: Talk about I feel like I'd be on Patrick's corner

830
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 5: on this one too, because I think part of the

831
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: question was more globally about why are the Chargers always overhyped,

832
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 5: and that predates Justin Herbert, because they've kind of had,

833
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 5: outside of a couple of years, a solid roster year

834
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 5: after year, like they're in the mix, and right now

835
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 5: they certainly have one of the better rosters in the AFC.

836
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 5: And I'm the Patrick Pard. For me is that I

837
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 5: can't just bake in and assume that the team's gonna

838
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 5: have terrible, ghoulish luck like in critical moments year after year,

839
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 5: Like is that actually something that a team creates? But

840
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: then the Chargers keep doing it, so you feel like

841
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 5: a double fool when it happens again.

842
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: Well, especially coming off the game against the Jags that

843
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: was brutal.

844
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: But Justin Herbert, he's he'll be healthier.

845
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 4: We saw him a couple of times kind of hobbling

846
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: around last season after he took some shots, or remember

847
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 4: that one the Thursday night game that he got put

848
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 4: back into. But also I think I'd be interested to

849
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 4: hear what the Baldy segment was with the offensive line,

850
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 4: because I thought that they would be better this year

851
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: because they are also healthier. But the receiving corps I

852
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: think is deeper too because they drafted Quentin Johnston, so

853
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 4: in theory justin Herbert should have a little bit more help,

854
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 4: and with Kellen Moore there, maybe it works even better.

855
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: Make a run. Let's go, Patrick, You're up all right?

856
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 6: This one comes from George O'Donnell, and I like it

857
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 6: because it's weird, because I'm weird which team would be

858
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 6: top of the NFL if offense had to play defense

859
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 6: for a season and the defense had to play offense.

860
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 6: Special teams can just stay put because there's three and

861
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 6: I guess we couldn't do a one for one trade.

862
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 6: I would incorporate some special teamers in it, though, and

863
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 6: I'm actually I guess I'll just take it and go first.

864
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 6: I'll take the Philadelphia Eagles before Colleen does, because I

865
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 6: would love to see Jala play linebacker and as well

866
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 6: as we could have Davante at corner. I don't know

867
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 6: how much Hitt and he could do, but he could

868
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 6: do it. I think it would work. And also like

869
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 6: Lane and some of the guys could flip over, I

870
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,959
Speaker 6: think it would make perfect sense.

871
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I would love to see it, but also

872
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 4: I would not love to see anyone get hurt doing this,

873
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: but I feel like that is part of the exercise.

874
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 3: I think too.

875
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: What about I was thinking maybe the forty nine Ers

876
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 4: defense could play offense, especially if Kyle Shanahan is running things,

877
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 4: because obviously he can scheme things up. But then I

878
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 4: was thinking about the Cowboys defense and Michael Parsons he

879
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 4: played running back before, and you have Trayvon Diggs who

880
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 4: could easily be a wide receiver, so that would be

881
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 4: another interesting switch too.

882
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: What if? What if? Because this question kind of breaks

883
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: my brain, so I don't really have a little bit

884
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 2: a conventional answer, but I'll say this, what if, Because

885
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 2: we're basically naming just good teams right now, what if

886
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 2: there's like a really bad team or a team we

887
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: don't think is going to be very good. If you

888
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: just flip them, they became unbelievable, Like all the defensive

889
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: players on the Panthers right now would be incredible offensive

890
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: talents and vice versa. Like maybe that's my answer the

891
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers.

892
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 5: I think the Titans. That's where my mind went too,

893
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 5: was like maybe a team has done such a poor

894
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,319
Speaker 5: job of self scouting that they've actually just need to

895
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 5: flip the line of scrimmage and off they go. But

896
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 5: my first instinct was with Colleen I thought, like, if

897
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 5: you have to trust your coaching staff to do something

898
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 5: that no coaching staff's ever done, like I'll roll the dice.

899
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 5: And this sounds like a trope for me because I'm

900
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 5: always talking about Coline Shana, but like he could take

901
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 5: a defensive lineman and probably get him to complete fifteen

902
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 5: passes a.

903
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 2: Game until the fourth quarter in a big spot.

904
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 5: That's very fair.

905
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: That. No.

906
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 6: I'm also kind of thinking about the Browns a little

907
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 6: bit because, like, you watch enough Miles Garrett basketball highlights

908
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 6: and they're like, Okay, like this this is silly. So

909
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 6: have Miles at a tight end and Nick Chubb could

910
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 6: play whatever he wants like.

911
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 2: Safety.

912
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 4: I was literally googling like Miles Garrett, and I was

913
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: trying to see if you played other positions at any

914
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 4: point in his career, like in high school or even

915
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 4: like great school, like going back, because yes, I could.

916
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: See it too.

917
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: Something to think about the Superstar Club just one deep

918
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: right now with Kelsey Miles Garrett as a field stretching

919
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: tight end. I kind of like that. I like that, Colleen, Oh, right,

920
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 2: mail bag?

921
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 4: Remember hey, okay, this one comes from Christopher w and

922
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 4: he says that he used to love, spending a boring

923
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,280
Speaker 4: work day tweeting random songs back and forth with Wes.

924
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 4: So how about he said, how about me a random

925
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 4: song you like? So send me, I think, or tweet

926
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: me a random song you like, nothing too heavy, not

927
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: a favorite, just a good song. And I've been in

928
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 4: this like I've been NonStop listening to music from like

929
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 4: the moment I.

930
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 3: Get up to the moment I go to bed.

931
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: Like I'm sure John hates it, but like he will

932
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 4: wake up and there will immediately be tunes on in

933
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 4: the house. And I've been going through a little bit

934
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 4: of like a dancy phase. So I would like to

935
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 4: throw out their High Love by dim Sum. I think

936
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: Sessler would really love it too, So check that out.

937
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 4: Also Come to Me by Lily and Madeline and Offenbach.

938
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: That's another good one. Good summer, good summer tunes, feel good,

939
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 4: their upbeat, they're good to drive to.

940
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: And night drive by John Splithoff.

941
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 2: I got three, got three from the mm HM mark

942
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: good ones. Well, maybe let's make a playlist. By the

943
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: way off this, I like this.

944
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if you need to put mine

945
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 5: on the playlist, but like I was thinking of stuff

946
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 5: that Wes and I used to listen to We're kind

947
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 5: of like, I'm not sure anyone else likes this, like

948
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 5: amongst our group, but like we would go to like

949
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 5: the Cozy In and play like Van Morrison's entire Astral

950
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 5: Weeks album, probably do the annoyance of some people there,

951
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 5: but it was actually very much that that vibe. But

952
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 5: the second West song that came into my head, and

953
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 5: I don't know where this came from, like Bend Me,

954
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 5: Shape Me, that old, uh like fifties sixties hit, because

955
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 5: that's what Wes and I would, you know, say to

956
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 5: you guys and sing to each other whenever they'd someone

957
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 5: would some lug heead would drop in the studio and

958
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 5: be like, now you've got to do five extra videos

959
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 5: that we didn't tell you about, and like we were

960
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 5: just like we thought we were getting out of here

961
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 5: and just like bend Me, Shape Me, you know, we're

962
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 5: just a part of the corporation. We'll do whatever you say.

963
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 5: Forgot about that good.

964
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: Ones, Eric, Eric behind the Glass. Let's let's make sure

965
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 2: we're taking these down so we could build out the

966
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: Spotify playlist.

967
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 6: Patrick, The thing that popped in my head was Chicago

968
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: twenty five or six to four. You know it's it

969
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 6: always pops up on Random and I enjoyed every time

970
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 6: Evanescence bring Me to life, you know, oh why not?

971
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 6: And then oh my gosh, what could I do?

972
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 2: That is move by Lula Chris.

973
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, there we go. Why not?

974
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 2: Good ass songs and good question Christopher right now because

975
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 2: I just took the boys to see the New Spider

976
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 2: Man movie, which was all right, love the first three

977
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: second one. Curious what you think pat on that one?

978
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: H Am I Dreaming by Metro Boomin Aesop, Rocky and Royce.

979
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 2: That's a great song. I've been playing that a lot.

980
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: Song I loved last year Western Wind by Carle Ray Jepson.

981
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 2: Uh a random ass U two song Dirty Day off

982
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 2: Zoo Ropa nineteen ninety three. And then the last song

983
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 2: Wes and I Vibe to Texas Son by Leon Bridges.

984
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: Oh so good, such a West song, texted him as

985
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 2: me as soon as I heard it, and he was like, yeap,

986
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: been listening to that one constantly. Those are my entries.

987
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: And Eric behind the glass, go ahead, add one of

988
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: your of your own, as we well, that would be great.

989
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: But all right, uh, who's up? Who goes second.

990
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 5: I believe I am all right. Kyle Overholtzer asked this, Hey,

991
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 5: Aten crew, longtime fan. First question of first tweet. I

992
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 5: am active duty military stationed in Alaska and I miss

993
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: being close to the NFL. My fun question is if

994
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 5: there was an Alaskan NFL team, what do you think

995
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 5: the mascot would be? I guess what we'd say? What

996
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 5: would you call the team?

997
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 2: This? This one felt easy to me. What did you have, Harry?

998
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 5: I had the I don't. I was sitting out on

999
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 5: my porch when I came up with this, and there

1000
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 5: was a lot of wild vehicles. But the Alaska hell

1001
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 5: Elves just like something a little.

1002
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 2: Near el Elves wouldn't wouldn't the Browns maybe get litigious

1003
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 2: about that because they got that stupid elf thing.

1004
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 5: They have like eight mile, They have like eight mascots.

1005
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 5: They just rebranded the dog.

1006
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: So it's like, Yeah, the hell Elves.

1007
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 5: Like Serve and I think it's sort of a mythical

1008
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: being of some sort. Typically you can do a lot

1009
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 5: with it.

1010
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 2: The mascot not always Hello La Lakers. The the mascot

1011
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 2: or team name is connected to the region in some way.

1012
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: Are there is there an elves like a demonic elves

1013
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: population somewhere and Alaska. I didn't. I don't know if

1014
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: I'll give you a.

1015
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 5: Firm answer on that, but I think it's just part

1016
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 5: of the you're creating a new world sort of.

1017
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was thinking because I thought it was a

1018
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 2: great name and it disappeared from a team move and oil,

1019
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 2: you know, oil, mass production of oil, and Alaska. Maybe

1020
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: still I don't know Seward's icebox. Learn that back in

1021
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: ninety the oilers, the Alaska oilers, bring it back. Let's go,

1022
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 2: let's fly. If it wasn't good enough for Houston, I

1023
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: think it could be good enough for the Alaska franchise.

1024
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 2: Oilers of the NHL could have an issue with that,

1025
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 2: but that we don't care about the NHL doesn't exist

1026
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:06,360
Speaker 2: in my world.

1027
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 3: I feel like I have the perfect answer.

1028
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:09,720
Speaker 2: Go ahead.

1029
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 4: It's the Alaskan Arctic wolves. And yeah, okay, I'm biased

1030
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: because the wolves, but Arctic wolves are incredible. They can

1031
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 4: fast up to four to five months at a time,

1032
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 4: They survive sub zero temperatures with no clothes, and they

1033
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: can't dig dens in the ice, and they can eat

1034
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: up to twenty pounds of meat in one sitting, So

1035
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 4: I rest.

1036
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 2: My case, I would already sign off on that if

1037
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 2: you were the logo, if you were somehow a part

1038
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: of the logo itself.

1039
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'm thinking either like a singular verb like

1040
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 6: the frost or the allusions, right, and the logo could

1041
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 6: be the islands or whatever, but maybe the frost.

1042
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: Ooh, the Alaskan frost. I like that. This next ques

1043
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: question is from Thomas danelian. I hope I got that right, Tom,

1044
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:10,240
Speaker 2: Tommy boy, you've done making the leap. But what player

1045
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,239
Speaker 2: or coach do you see going the opposite way? A

1046
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 2: regression candidate, if you will. What would that be anyway?

1047
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 2: Is it so we have making the leap that's kind

1048
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: of our ip? Would that be faking the leap? No,

1049
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 2: you're moving back? Are you making the creep?

1050
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 5: Is it like like half baking the leap.

1051
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 2: Like the create like a nineteen sixties like dance move,

1052
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 2: but you're going backwards.

1053
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 6: Mistaking the leap like we thought they were going to leap,

1054
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 6: but they didn't.

1055
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: But this is somebody that I guess was, Oh no,

1056
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: it's somebody that you think is going to do it

1057
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: and then doesn't.

1058
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,320
Speaker 4: Okay, anyway, like a fall like a fall from wherever.

1059
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: All right, well, let me throw out a couple of guys,

1060
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: because I kind of saw it as somebody that had

1061
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: established a level of production and now it's going to

1062
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 2: go in reverse. This is the second show in a

1063
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 2: row where I wish Greg was here because Gino Smith,

1064
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 2: I'm nominating he kind of tailed off a little bit

1065
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: at the end of last season, and now with more

1066
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 2: expectation and a bigger paycheck, and you know in Seattle,

1067
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: will Gino be as good as he was last year? Probably,

1068
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: but he could be faking the leap also last year.

1069
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 2: Throw that out there. What do you guys think.

1070
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 5: I'd agree with that. I think there's a case to

1071
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: be made. He's got a really good roster around him.

1072
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 5: I think that some of the good stuff we saw

1073
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 5: from Gino Smith were legitimately who he is as a player.

1074
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't predict doom. I'll give you mine real quick,

1075
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 5: because mine's a coach. I kind of I did see

1076
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 5: that tweet and I just saw the word coach, But

1077
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 5: I think he's a good coach. But Kevin O'Connell, the

1078
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 5: team goes thirteen and four. They won like nine games

1079
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 5: in the last couple of minutes, like it's this thing

1080
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: that's never going to happen again. To the Minnesota Vikings,

1081
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 5: they've spent the offseason like essentially just trying to reach

1082
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 5: their cap. They've cut a bunch of people. The defense

1083
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 5: was already the worst in the league last year. I

1084
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 5: don't know, I don't see them winning thirteen games like

1085
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 5: they see them winning nine. And then suddenly it's like

1086
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 5: it's Kevin O'Connell. Is he under a lot of pressure?

1087
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 5: Hot seat scenario?

1088
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: Is it fair to say with the Vikings though, that

1089
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: most of most of us and even probably a lot

1090
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: of Vikings fans saw through it a little bit that

1091
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: nobody ever really viewed that team as a powerhouse, And

1092
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 2: now with these the cost cutting measures that there's a

1093
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 2: general understanding that they're not going to be as good.

1094
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 2: And maybe that is good news for O'Connell in terms

1095
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: of expectations coming off last year.

1096
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 5: Maybe work for him, maybe, But I see what you're

1097
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 5: saying if everyone remains level headed, because if things turn ugly,

1098
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 5: no one's gonna want to factor that. You're right. I mean,

1099
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 5: I think if you want to take it to court,

1100
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 5: you'd have to bring all that stuff up. But we're

1101
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 5: talking about football fans, we're talking about talking heads. You know,

1102
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 5: things get ugly quick.

1103
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 2: Anybody else want to throw a name at there?

1104
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: I mean, I immediately my mind went to the Vikings.

1105
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 4: You could have multiple people just because of their point

1106
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 4: differential last year, how close all of those wins were.

1107
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 4: But I'm also just wondering right now in the moment

1108
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 4: about Jared Goff, would he be potentially someone who could

1109
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 4: regress with some of the changes that the offense has

1110
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 4: made in the offseason and the guys that they've drafted,

1111
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 4: is their philosophy changing?

1112
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what I was going to say, Like because

1113
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 6: making the leaps so much if it is perception and

1114
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 6: like the player could still be the same player, but

1115
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 6: circumstances could turn out a little bit different. And then

1116
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,720
Speaker 6: it's like, oh, well, well they're bad now. But it's

1117
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 6: hard to have success. Like I don't think we can

1118
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 6: wipe away what Jared Goff did, but if we also

1119
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 6: can't like expect him to throw sixty touchdowns. You know,

1120
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 6: it's just at a certain point, you know, like Kevin

1121
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 6: O'Connell can't apologize for those wins, and I think six

1122
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 6: years from now, like those are still going to be wins,

1123
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 6: but if we could properly contextualize them as we should,

1124
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 6: it's like, well they got they got undressed in a

1125
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 6: playoff game at home by a team that wasn't very good.

1126
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 2: I'll throw one more out there, Josh Jacobs, and that's

1127
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: part of the reason why he wasn't put in the

1128
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: Superstar club for me, coming off a four hundred touch

1129
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: season on a Raiders team that's I don't know. I

1130
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 2: think they'll have worse quarterback play and you know, a

1131
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: very competitive division. You know, there is a track record

1132
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: or the bill come and do when a player gets

1133
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: that level of workload, how how he is the next season.

1134
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 2: Fantasy heads I would think should be a little bit

1135
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 2: wary as well. Patrick, I don't know what is the

1136
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: general vibe in the fantasy realm about Josh Jacobs. Is

1137
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: it all systems go that he's going to be the

1138
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: same guy or like, no, what's the vibe.

1139
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 6: I think people want to see something from the Raiders.

1140
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: They want to see like what's Jimmy going to be?

1141
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,880
Speaker 6: Like what's this offense going to be? Like, you know,

1142
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 6: how's Josh gonna hold up? I'm not thinking everybody's gonna

1143
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 6: fly out there and have this reclamation, like the people

1144
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 6: who are acknowledging their mistake with McCaffrey last year. It's like,

1145
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 6: you take the good players that are going to be

1146
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 6: in good situations. We just don't know what Josh's situation

1147
00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 6: is right now.

1148
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 2: All right, let's go try to be a little quicker

1149
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: kind of you're up, all right?

1150
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: I kind of want to put a sandwich on Josh

1151
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 3: Jacobs with you, Dan, but.

1152
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: We'll do that maybe for September.

1153
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,959
Speaker 4: Okay, perfect, all right, forget it's fun, you know we will.

1154
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 4: There's no question, all right. The last question is okay,

1155
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 4: this is from Daniel Hall, and he said which division

1156
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 4: is most likely to be the twenty twenty two AFC

1157
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 4: West so high expectations coming in and then ends up

1158
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 4: being mostly paper tigers. And then which division is most

1159
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,919
Speaker 4: likely to be the twenty twenty two NFC East low

1160
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 4: expectations coming in, ends up being deep and formidable. This question, Dan,

1161
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 4: as you mentioned earlier, breaking brains. This one broke my

1162
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 4: brain a bit. But I kept going back and forth

1163
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 4: with is the AFC South going to be better than

1164
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 4: people think with what they have done?

1165
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: Obviously the Jags. I think that they.

1166
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: Will win the division again, and now they have Calvin

1167
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 4: Ridley and you get more consistency and growth from Trevor Lawrence.

1168
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 4: And then with the Colts, I don't know. I mean,

1169
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 4: maybe Shane Steichen can work some magic with Anthony Richardson

1170
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 4: and his past with mobile quarterbacks and developing them in

1171
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: of offenses. Plus you have the Texans who drafted a

1172
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 4: ton of talent and brought in I really like the

1173
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 4: Dalton Schultz edition.

1174
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 3: Damian Pierce.

1175
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 4: He's a star there and Demico could actually turn around

1176
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 4: that defense with They have some.

1177
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 3: Good good players there.

1178
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 4: Drafted Will Anderson, Derek Stingley junior, so they have good pieces.

1179
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering. Like the Titans, I think they're going

1180
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 4: to struggle, and I don't know when we'll see Will Levis,

1181
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 4: but I just I think that they might be better

1182
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 4: than we think.

1183
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 2: That's interesting. The AFC South that two rookie quarterbacks. It's

1184
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: a lot of variants.

1185
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 3: There could be three different new quarterbacks.

1186
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, three different quarterbacks. I'll nominate the NFC North

1187
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 2: actually as could be better. The Vikings. I think everyone

1188
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: is universally saying they're going to come way down to Earth,

1189
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: but they still have a core of players. Justin Jefferson's

1190
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: on that team still Kirk Cousins. I know opinions vary,

1191
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 2: but I don't think that offense is going to create her.

1192
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 2: I think Madison will keep the running game moving, and

1193
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 2: then Brian Flores is running the defense, so that could

1194
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: maybe help some things, even though he doesn't have a

1195
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 2: lot of talent to work with the Lions, I think

1196
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 2: we all feel like there is a positive outcome there

1197
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 2: potentially as a double digit win team. The Packers same thing.

1198
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: If Jordan Love plays well, he has some players around

1199
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 2: him and a winning pedigree for that organization. And then

1200
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 2: the Bears, like Justin Field's potential making the leap guy

1201
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 2: the rosters way better. That could go a couple different directions,

1202
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 2: but they could certainly be much more competitive. I think

1203
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: the other side of it, Mark is a kind of

1204
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 2: an easy one for me. I think everyone is looking

1205
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: at the AFC East and saying, oh yeah, like everyone's

1206
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 2: hyping up. Like whenever you're a division that's being hyped

1207
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 2: up includes the Jets and Dolphins as two teams, people

1208
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: are assuming you're going to be good, like it's probably

1209
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: not gonna happen. Not both those teams are gonna be

1210
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: big time teams, and maybe neither are. But you have Jets, Dolphins, Bills, Pats.

1211
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 2: Everyone says it's the best division, but these things don't

1212
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: tend to work out that way.

1213
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 5: Well, I think, because we're talking about like last year's

1214
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 5: AFC West, where it was like can can four teams

1215
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 5: make the playoffs? Two of them were absolute disasters. The

1216
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,160
Speaker 5: problem is you're playing each other. The Jets' schedule is

1217
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 5: so brutal. You're asking the Jets also as an organization,

1218
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 5: and to do something they've never really done. The Dolphins

1219
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 5: are new at this also. Right now, I trust the

1220
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 5: Dolphins a little bit more. The Bills come down earth

1221
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 5: a little bit. The Patriots, to me are sort of

1222
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 5: middle of the road. I could see a team winning

1223
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 5: the division with nine wins if they all like in

1224
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 5: a dog fight, eat each other up.

1225
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was there was so much player movement and

1226
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 6: so much like high profile player movement last year, and

1227
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 6: so much hype for the entire division that I don't

1228
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 6: think I think it's gonna be a few years where

1229
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 6: we see that much hype for a division anymore. I

1230
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 6: think everybody's kind of taken their medicine, so like that,

1231
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 6: that feels like a perfect storm. But I'm with you

1232
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 6: on the east Dan, it could go either way.

1233
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: Okay, who's up next.

1234
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 6: I'll take the most predictable one ever.

1235
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1236
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 6: This comes courtesy of Johnny ridd Wimill Patrick admit that

1237
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 6: his take that momentum doesn't exist is complete garbage. The

1238
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 6: easy answer to Johnny is never. I feel like, honestly

1239
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 6: like we could come to the stasis here and acknowledge

1240
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 6: right that for some people maybe positive things does beget

1241
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 6: more positive things. But it's it's always been my contention

1242
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 6: that we don't know that, we don't know what players

1243
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 6: are going through. We don't know how they feel about themselves.

1244
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 6: Some of the greatest punt returners of all time, you know,

1245
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 6: you ask them what they're doing when the ball's coming,

1246
01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 6: They're like, I'm scared to death. I don't want to

1247
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 6: get hit, and they ultimately end up scoring touchdowns. It's like,

1248
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 6: people are individuals, people are different, and we don't necessarily

1249
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,959
Speaker 6: have all the data. So I just think, no matter

1250
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 6: how good you are, no matter how positive you're thinking,

1251
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 6: if you're lined up across from DeVante Adams, like the

1252
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 6: power of positive thought and going to keep you from

1253
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 6: him busting your ass, and so like that's that's just

1254
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 6: my belief. But maybe we could find a happy, happy medium.

1255
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 6: I'm sorry to everybody's personal belief system that I've offended,

1256
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 6: but these guys are professionals and positive thought and.

1257
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,919
Speaker 5: Patrick, you've also you branded, You've you're this is part

1258
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:25,800
Speaker 5: of your Patrick experience. Like even if, even in a

1259
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 5: private moment, if you come to a different fork in

1260
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 5: the road here and realize that you don't even agree

1261
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 5: with your own take, you just can never you got

1262
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 5: a part of the surrender.

1263
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 6: Yeah no, but the brand would. If somebody comes out

1264
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 6: and defines what it is and like shows me how

1265
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 6: it works, then clearly that's true for momentum astrology, you know,

1266
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 6: holistic health practices like just show me and I'm there.

1267
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 6: But I know that the error goes under the ring

1268
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 6: faster than it goes over the wing, and that generates lyft.

1269
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 6: I can't build an airplane, but I can conceptually see

1270
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 6: how it works, and so I'm okay with getting on one.

1271
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 6: But when you tell me that, like this energy that

1272
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 6: binds the galaxy together is moving things and then this

1273
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 6: team wins because God likes them more or something. I

1274
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 6: don't know. I'm just I just need to see some.

1275
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 4: God what positive vibrations? Come on and Patrick, it's great

1276
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:15,439
Speaker 4: over here.

1277
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 3: The water's so nice.

1278
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 4: Try it out in momentum.

1279
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 5: I guarantee you. I can't always riffs like this.

1280
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,439
Speaker 2: I can't get yeah, this one, we don't have enough

1281
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,880
Speaker 2: time to really do this, but I will say that

1282
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 2: the Jalen Rager answer from earlier felt like a placeholder

1283
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: for you to formally apologize to people about momentum. But

1284
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: you're not doing it, and I respect your higg in

1285
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 2: the heels.

1286
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 6: Show me what it is like. Somebody explained it to

1287
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 6: me so that I can understand. See student, you know,

1288
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 6: just a bachelor.

1289
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 3: Some things are just abstract perfect.

1290
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: Up next, is I lost? Like the otder? What were

1291
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: you doing? Is Connie?

1292
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 3: No one knows?

1293
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 5: Is Colleen? Now?

1294
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 2: Okay?

1295
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:04,520
Speaker 6: Colleen's all out? She's empty?

1296
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Speaker 2: Mark? Did you Mark throwing out there?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Hold on, let me just scroll down.

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Speaker 4: Mark already out of all of his applications.

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Speaker 2: We've lost momentum for the segment because I didn't have it.

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Speaker 5: How about this one? There is always a team that

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Speaker 5: goes from worse the first. Who does everyone think it

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Speaker 5: will be this year? The Jets came to mind, the

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Speaker 5: Falcons came to mind for me.

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Speaker 2: Let's see, let me give you the options. Okay, Jets, Browns, Texans, Broncos, Commanders, Bears, Falcons, Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: Taking my fan leaning out of it. I'll stay out

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Speaker 2: of the AFC East, and I will say the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 6: Sniped.

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Speaker 2: That's momentum revenge.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's true. Yeah, I from here on out, anybody

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Speaker 6: else want to throw it out there?

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Speaker 3: Bears are Falcons.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Mark can't say it, but he thinks of the Browns,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's a good answer.

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Speaker 5: Also, I don't think so. I could see them coming

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Speaker 5: in second, but I don't. I don't think they've got

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Speaker 5: the DNA to win.

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Speaker 2: If you could see them coming in second, how could

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Speaker 2: you not see any scenario where they come in first?

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Speaker 5: What if they come in second? By three games?

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Speaker 6: You know what, I'll say the Jets because Dan feels

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Speaker 6: like he can't say it, so I'll say the judge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think you know that the Jets are

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01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: a tough ask because I think the Bills will remain

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Speaker 2: a you know, a Titan unless they come down, and

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Speaker 2: then it does get really interesting. There we go, I

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Speaker 2: do Mark. I like Mark's take that the nine wins

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Speaker 2: wins the AFC East would be wild. That would be

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Speaker 2: chaos for that division. Interesting Bills fans don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear that. All right, I'll throw out one more. Let's see.

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Speaker 2: What do I want to go? Let's see, let's see,

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Speaker 2: let's see, let's see. Oh yeah, I wanted to touch

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Speaker 2: on this. I thought this was interesting. This is talking

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Speaker 2: about a little how do you make the game better?

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01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,960
Speaker 2: How do you help these officials? You know, here's the question.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think the question is from faux real,

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01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,160
Speaker 2: sofo so real? Why do you think the NFL is

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01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 2: fighting rule changes that could help the league, like sky

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Speaker 2: judge or making every play and every penalty reviewable. I

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01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 2: think it's mostly rooted guys in pace of play. And

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,200
Speaker 2: I was just I was thinking about this. NBA games

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01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 2: are about two and a half hours typically. Major League

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01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: Baseball shout out to Migo Hermon, by the way, perfect game.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, radically reinvented elements of their gameplay this season MLB

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01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 2: and shaved like thirty minutes off game time, so they're

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01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: coming into two thirty five now for a game. The

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01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: average NFL game was three hours and twelve minutes last season.

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 2: That's kind of been creeping upward through the years, and

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 2: there's a twelve minute halftime that's not going to change.

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01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: There are around I look this up, there are around

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01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 2: fifteen to twenty five commercials per quarter. That adds up

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: to about one hundred commercials per game. And I'm going

1353
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,879
Speaker 2: to tell you something as somebody who works for the NFL,

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 2: but that's not changing either. Commercials will remain very prominent

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01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 2: in a telecast of a game. But I think the

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01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 2: NFL might be a little spooked with how the viewing

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,799
Speaker 2: habits of youth culture are. Adding elements that will slow

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01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 2: down the game. To stop and check every play is

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01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 2: something they don't want to do, and I wouldn't want

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01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,839
Speaker 2: them to do either. But maybe there's a medium here, Patrick,

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,439
Speaker 2: where you can add something like sky Judge without it

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01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 2: being something that grinds the momentum of the game to

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Speaker 2: a halt.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the momentum of the decision makers is

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01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,400
Speaker 6: a reluctance to change. We see that in so many aspects.

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01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,720
Speaker 6: We saw it when pass interference was reviewable and they

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01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 6: kind of hamstrung the process. They didn't necessarily want to

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01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 6: actually commit to it, because there's there's ways we could

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01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 6: speed up the process, right, we don't need necessarily the

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01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,720
Speaker 6: dog and pony show of having the official go out

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 6: to a thing, look into the hood, and walk it

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01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 6: back out. Somebody could just look at it and say

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01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 6: the pass was incomplete, like it shouldn't take forty five seconds,

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01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 6: because these things are called in real time, so they

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01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 6: should be able to be reviewed in real time. But

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01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,479
Speaker 6: they seem to be reluctant to take that process away

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01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 6: because they want to show it to people for some reason.

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01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 6: I don't I don't need to see it. Show me

1379
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 6: the replay, say it was incomplete. That's it. I think

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01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 6: that's where they could do it.

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 2: All right, Mark, give me one more.

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01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 5: All right, here we go.

1383
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 2: I gave you all mine to be honest, Lee West, banger.

1384
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 5: I've given you everything.

1385
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: It's on the screen staring at Lee West. If you

1386
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 2: broke your leg and had to spend a couple of

1387
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 2: months bedbound, what would you do while you're in your

1388
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 2: bed eg? Board games, TV gaming, TV gaming or anything else,

1389
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 2: And first thing you would do when you could walk again.

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01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 5: Okay, my bad. I do realize that I attacked it

1391
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,240
Speaker 5: in my worksheet here, so apologies for slowing down the show.

1392
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 5: I think what I would do is like at the first,

1393
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 5: at the start of that experience, when I just realized

1394
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be in this bed for like two months,

1395
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 5: like I'm going to do something really like life changing,

1396
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 5: like write a book or do you know, create something

1397
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 5: that I finally had that space. What I would wind

1398
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 5: up doing is probably like a bunch of edibles and

1399
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 5: playing like old Nintendo games that I couldn't beat as

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01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 5: a kid and beat them as an adult journey.

1401
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: For you, we are on We're on this, We're on

1402
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: a similar path. I gave this some thought and I

1403
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 2: was like, I would finish Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace.

1404
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 2: I would learn how to play the acoustic guitar, but

1405
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 2: in reality, I would probably just like game like two

1406
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 2: hundred Pounds and play a load of MLB the show

1407
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 2: twenty three on my son's Nintendo switch.

1408
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 4: I prepared for the show by writing my notes down

1409
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 4: on actual note cards for some reason, very nice and

1410
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,200
Speaker 4: on my list here, the number one thing is write

1411
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,600
Speaker 4: a script. The number two is guitar, and I was

1412
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 4: also wondering, like how much mobility do I have? Would

1413
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 4: the would the guitar be a thing that I could

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 4: do if I was bedbound?

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01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 3: I think so.

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01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 2: I think it's a broken leg, right, is that the injury?

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01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1418
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, So you could like prop it on like

1419
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 4: a you know, a pillow or whatever, husband too, Yeah,

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01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 4: prop it up on, John, That's all. I would take

1421
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:44,560
Speaker 4: some online classes. I would learn how to do finances,

1422
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 4: since I have no idea how to do anything with finances.

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 3: I would invest and I would take a stand up class,

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01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 3: which is ironic.

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01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 6: I would contact I remember a couple of years ago

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01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 6: when Will Fuller had that great start and then he

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 6: popped positive for ped and you kind of haven't.

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01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 2: Seen him since, I would get him scene again.

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01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 6: I would get in touch with Will Fuller and take

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01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 6: whatever he was taking to get out of that bed

1431
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 6: as soon as possible. I it would be like a

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01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 6: training montage. I don't know, like gripping exercises. I just

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01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 6: I have I've always had problems sitting still. You guys

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01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 6: know that work with me, and so it would be

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01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 6: a real struggle. I'd have to get out of there

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01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 6: and then play with my kids. Of course, will be

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01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 6: the first out.

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01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if you'll be able to find Will Fuller.

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01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:31,799
Speaker 2: That man he gone. That man's gone, he gone.

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01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 6: Whatever he was taking, give it to me, whatever good stuff.

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01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 2: Closing up the mail bag, I told you they really

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01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: stepped up this time.

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01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so many questions and a lot of really good ones.

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01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,280
Speaker 5: I think one thing a clerical note for us, because

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01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 5: sometimes we decided to do a mail bag like day

1446
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 5: of show and so it's just sitting out there for

1447
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 5: you know, ninety eight minutes. But we gave them a

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01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 5: full earth cycle, a full day plus to come up

1449
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 5: with stuff, and I think it reached other parts of

1450
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 5: the world and the results are better.

1451
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 2: I've given them more runway in the past than they've failed.

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01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,200
Speaker 5: I'm trying to give them an of credit.

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01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this. Let's focus on the positive that

1454
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 2: they succeeded here, okay, and we hope we gave answers

1455
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 2: that we're entertaining to the point where the podcast hasn't

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01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 2: been shut off by now. Thank you to Patrick, you've

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 2: said it all, you know, good luck in that studio

1458
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 2: wherever you are. And like the Russell Wilson full sized

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: or like gigantic sized photo tells us to strive for

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01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: every day in that office. Have some serious integrity over there, bro.

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01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 6: And you'll get that picture here in two minutes.

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back on Monday. We're doing a

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Speaker 2: Monday show me and Greggy, so please tune in for that.

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01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 2: don't care. Like if you're drinking bud Light, if you're

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Speaker 2: drinking eight, if you're drinking water, be safe as you

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Speaker 2: do it. Enjoy the holiday with your family here in

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Speaker 2: the States and friends, and we'll see on the other

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01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 2: side of the weekend. Well July fourth, on Tuesday, so

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 2: that was premature, but anyway, who cares Until Monday, you

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Speaker 2: know what you gotta do. Heed the call.

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