WEBVTT - Biden's Border Policies 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:08.280 Okay, everything's recording. My cat is grooming herself, So when 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.639 now was the time? Now? Some time? Very great? But 0:00:11.720 --> 0:00:15.680 should just use that as a rang tru Okay, I 0:00:15.800 --> 0:00:17.560 mean I'm fine with that. Whatever, Okay, let's do it. 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.079 That's very in true. Sharine's cat is grooming herself, and 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:25.720 that means that this is it could happen here. And 0:00:25.840 --> 0:00:29.560 I am James Stout and I'm joined by Sharine units 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:33.680 and not not her cat. She's just she's just rowdy 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.920 and I have to really sometimes plan recording times around 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:39.960 her schedule. And that's that's just the way my life 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:43.000 is now. And that's yeah, that's the attention she deserves. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.560 None of this is important. It's okay, but it's a 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.080 bit of a serious one, sadly. And so I want 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.640 to talk more again about the border, something we've spoken 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.560 about a little bit and something I kind of want 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.760 to keep coming back too, because things haven't really got 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.680 any better. In fact, they've potentially got worse. So where 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:04.320 I want to start is last month, and we're recording 0:01:04.360 --> 0:01:07.480 this and what the fourth of April, so still for 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:11.280 a week ago, I think a firing attention twenty eighth Okay, Yeah, 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.279 what's that three? Yeah, a week ago, a week ago today. 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:17.080 A fire in a detention center in sued Ad Huaras 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.880 killed forty one migrants being detained there. Well then two 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:24.280 dozen other people were seriously injured, and every single one 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.679 of the about one hundred people detained in the migrant 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:32.960 detention center was hurt in the fire. The reason that 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.560 every single person was hurt became clear in a video 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.640 obtained by Texas Public Radio and later confirmed by the 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:43.440 government in Mexico. It shows two people dressed as guards 0:01:43.560 --> 0:01:46.040 rush into the camera frame. You can see people in 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.360 the cells just really pulling and kicking and beating on 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:52.280 the bars. The guards sort of run up to the doors, 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:54.440 but they don't really appear to make any effort to 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.240 open them or to let the people out of the cells. Instead, 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.600 they hurry away as clouds of smoke begin to fill 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:03.240 the corners of the cells. Gradually, the smoke fills up 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.680 the whole screen until you can't see anything else and 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:10.399 the men in the cells are left to die. It's horrifying. Yeah, 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:15.000 it's one of the worst deaths that's available to a 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:19.120 human being, and the fact that people who are already 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.799 incredibly desperate and have taken huge risks to get there 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.840 and died like literally yards from the United States border. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.840 Is just it's almost kind of unfathomably cruel. But what 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:34.680 is in a way crueler is this statement made by 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:38.239 the US Ambassador to Mexico, Ken Salazar. He said the 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.200 tragedy illustrated the dangerous grifts in traveling north and he 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:44.720 cited the loss of life in two recent smuggling incidents 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:47.760 in San Antonio in the southern Mexican state of Chiapas. 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.480 These cases, he said, are a reminder of the risks 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:55.880 of irregular migration. But what we're talking about here isn't 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.680 a consequence of irregular migration, really right, because these people 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:02.280 weren't in the hands of criminals or coyotes or cartels. 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.560 That they were in the hands of the Mexican government 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.400 when they died. And for him to blame this on 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:11.840 a regular migration, I think it is very indicative of 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:16.519 the way the bid administration has approached migration policy, which 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.640 is to try and always obfuscate and shirk the responsibility 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.880 for the cruel things that it's doing, for the consequences 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.359 of its policies and its actions, which I want to 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.919 get into more. I don't want to linger on this 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.880 fire too much because it's unfathomably awful, and like I 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.840 don't think it. I don't think we need to spend 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.800 hours and hours like going over something for people to 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.640 know that there is no situation in which the government 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:49.600 should burn fucking forty people alive, Like, um, it's inexcusable. 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:53.000 We know that, like it was, the shelter was set 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.680 up in twenty nineteen, and I want to get into 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:59.680 why this shelter, which seems to have been a pretty 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.120 terrible conditions to begin with, was set up in twenty nineteen, 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:06.480 Why people who claim to the United States to try 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.160 and have a better life, to say for life, ended 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.160 up in a shelter in Mexico, And how we've created 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.960 a system where people keep dying at our southern border. Right, 0:04:14.680 --> 0:04:16.520 some of this will be stuff we've covered before. People 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.440 have listened to the other stuff I've done on the boarder. 0:04:18.480 --> 0:04:21.920 If people have listened to the Butterfly Sanctuary episodes, they'll 0:04:21.920 --> 0:04:24.520 be familiar with some of Biden's border policies. But I 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.440 wanted to address these. Did you see that they lowered 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:29.560 the death toll from forty to thirty eight, I guess 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.840 after hospital visits. Like that's the one part that I've 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:36.280 read that is nice so far. Yeah, that's good. I've 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.640 seen thirty eight, thirty nine, and forty one, and it 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:42.480 wasn't sure what being exactly, So thirty eight it's in. Yes, 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.680 right now I'm reading thirty eight after it was it 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.000 was forty and it was lowered to thirty eight. Okay, 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:53.040 Well two people were reanimated. Yeah, I mean it's I mean, 0:04:53.120 --> 0:04:55.680 it's just like they're probably in terrible condition, like they're 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.440 probably going they're having like life changing if not like all, 0:04:59.560 --> 0:05:02.600 like it's just terrible. Yeah, And like access to care 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:04.840 for those people. I mean those people may have access 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:06.839 to care, right because of what happened was high profile 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.000 and within the news, but like generally access to care 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:13.560 for people like I have seen I've seen a person 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.040 die because they don't have access to their medicines that 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:20.520 are very cheap and very easily available. Like again, like 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:24.359 we are talking feet, like I could throw a tennis 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.280 ball into the United States and where it was stalling. 0:05:27.120 --> 0:05:33.080 And that's because this system treats people like numbers, not people. Yeah, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.600 migration center is like a like a big jail, you 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.920 know what I mean, it doesn't even Yeah, it's like 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:41.919 an old timey fucking Western jail with people crammed it too, 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:45.240 cells with with you know, like legit bars on the walls, 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:49.960 so slow. Conditions in Mexican detention are often very poor, 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:53.440 and those conditions have been exacerbated by something called Title 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.680 forty two. People have probably heard about Title forty two 0:05:56.720 --> 0:05:59.560 a lot. There's a lot to say about Title forty two, 0:05:59.600 --> 0:06:01.880 but very briefly, it's a trump or a public health 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:05.560 policy that invokes a public health rule to push asylum 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.719 seekers out the US and into Mexico, regardless of whether 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:12.320 or not they might legally qualify for asylum. This shelter 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:14.600 was stood up as a consequence of something called the 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:19.040 Migrant Protection Protocol. People call it the Migrant persecution protocol 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:21.279 because that's more accurate. But I was going to say, like, wow, 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:26.280 doing a very job with that. Yeah, Like people enjoy 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.400 being wrong about George orwell, but this ship is perfectly 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.559 orwelly in yea To call a policy which kills little 0:06:33.600 --> 0:06:38.640 fucking children the Migrant Protectional policy is dark, they call it. 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.320 It's often called remain in Mexico as well, which is 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.920 what it does. It requires people to remain in Mexico 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.560 while their asylum claim it's process, despite the fact that 0:06:47.720 --> 0:06:49.960 this might not be a safe country for them, and 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.440 that this might violate various international laws and conventions on asylum. 0:06:54.560 --> 0:06:57.000 But the US doesn't subscribe to all of those. As 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.320 we're going to find out now. Title forty two has 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:04.320 been through some legal ping pong recently, right with Biden's 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.640 sort of trying to get rid of it, also defending 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:11.080 getting caught a bunch of conservative states suing to keep it. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.440 So let's expend a little bit of where we're at 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.360 with Title forty two right now. It's actually set to 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:22.160 expire on May the eleventh. The Biden administration is rolling 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.480 out plans that will continue to restrict migrant access after 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:28.200 May the eleventh because they're concerned about like a large 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:32.400 influx of migrants, which I just want to point out 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.480 was always going to fucking happen, right when you like 0:07:35.680 --> 0:07:38.320 pushed people just the other side of your fictional line 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:39.960 in the sand, and then at some point you're going 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.680 to have to start because at some point, Mexico is 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.600 already the third most popular country in the world for 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:49.360 asylum and you can't force this all on them. So 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.960 since it was first implemented in twenty twenty, the government 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.560 has used Title forty two to expel migrants from the 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:59.520 US Mexico border nearly two point seven million times. That 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:06.200 doesn't mean you will see these statistics quoted constantly, credulously, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.040 like people who don't understand what the fuck they're talking about. 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:11.040 And it really makes me angry. That doesn't mean two 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.400 point seven million people, right, Because Title forty two makes 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.720 people cross more than once. It creates this kind of 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:23.880 loop where DHS right normally CBP or bought a patrol, sorry, 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:27.160 picks people up and dumps them back in Mexico without 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.680 processing them. And those people are now in a place 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.599 they don't know, they don't have any family that have 0:08:32.640 --> 0:08:35.600 any hope, they don't have any money, and all they 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.319 do is kick their heels until they can find a 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:40.160 way to cross again, or someone to cross them again. 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.320 And sometimes people who are facilitating those crossings will offer 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:48.000 them unlimited crossings, so they'll pay someone to smuggle them across, right, 0:08:48.360 --> 0:08:50.960 and that person will say, well, you get unlimited crossings, 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.520 Like I didn't even realize. I didn't know it was 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:58.920 so like standard. They're like, Okay, this is gonna happen. 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:00.480 You're gonna get elimited cross, you know what I mean. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.280 Like there's like they're expecting it to be this like 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:05.959 perpetual loop. Yeah, I mean they a few years ago, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.599 maybe they wouldn't have done. But another way that this 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:11.040 is sometimes termed his catch and release, which they're not 0:09:11.120 --> 0:09:14.719 fucking fish. Um shouldn't do that to fish either. It's 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.640 not really nice to fish. But using Yeah, it's extremely 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:23.560 fucking dehumanizing, right, and what it does and what I've 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.880 seen what I'm not it's not like a unique insight 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.800 of mine is that it forces people to cross in 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:31.439 more and more dangerous areas. Like you combine that with 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:34.480 a wall and the fact that like it's very well 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.480 documented that the Trump administration wanted to maximize the amount 0:09:37.520 --> 0:09:41.160 of miles of wall that built. If you remember in 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:43.640 one of the presidential debates, he made a claim about 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.880 a certain number of miles of new wall he built. Yeah, 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:50.040 he was just speaking out of his ass. I've foyed 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.800 it like the next day and they were like, I 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.080 think they provide a number of different numbers or many 0:09:57.160 --> 0:10:00.280 of which relied heavily on repairing existing board of vents. 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:03.760 But they just went like hammer and tongs, trying to 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:07.400 build new sections of wall to include skipping areas where 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.880 it was harder to build valleys, mountains, that kind of thing, Right, 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:14.160 And so what this wall does is it forces people 0:10:14.360 --> 0:10:17.079 through the areas where it's hardest to cross, and those 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.880 are the areas where it's easiest to die. And so 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:23.760 these people are now forced to make risky and riskier 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:28.120 crossings to try and avoid getting caught, or to wait 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.199 in Mexico where they're at a very high risk of 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.079 abduction or sexual assault, extortion or violence. Right, and will 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:34.719 come on too, maybe a couple of those stories later, 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:38.959 just from people I've talked to. The result of this 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.040 policy is that border cities in Mexico are flooded with migrants, 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:45.040 and often with soldiers sent there to supposedly keep the peace. 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.520 Last month, the Mexican National Guard and the immigration authorities 0:10:49.640 --> 0:10:53.559 raided a hotel full of Venezuelan migrants in Hualis. Local 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.840 news outlets reported that the migrants, mostly young men, through 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.640 stones at the officials and they're broad issued and eventually 0:10:59.640 --> 0:11:03.439 they call off the raid. In another incident, authority to 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.760 raided the church and dragged off a number of Venezuelan 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.600 migrants who have been given to sanctuary there. Some were beaten, 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:12.600 and one advocate said they were essentially tortured. This prompted, yeah, 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.839 it's this is horrific, right, like a lot of so 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.000 a lot of the young men in the it was 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.520 all men in the potential center that caught fire. Most 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.800 of them were from Venezuela place like I've lived in Venezuela. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:29.920 I have a lot of sympathy for those people. And yeah, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:34.200 she actually I found like a breakdown. I guess there 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.360 is thirteen Hundurians, twelve Salvadorians, twelve Venezuelans, a Colombian and 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:42.040 an Ecuadorian. So I mean, even that's crazy, like there's 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:46.440 so many people from all those countries. It's I don't know. Yeah, 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:49.960 we'll see a bit later that there are certain pathways, 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:53.079 like for Venezuelan people, there are some pathways that don't 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:58.240 exist through other people then insufficient and they're they're how 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.400 do I say this unfair, but sort of they exist. 0:12:01.440 --> 0:12:04.480 But yeah, those people from from those countries. We see 0:12:04.480 --> 0:12:06.160 a lot of Haitian people at the border here too. 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:11.600 But yeah, that's a pretty common kind of like border 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:17.280 mix up of folks. Unfortunately, often you won't see Haitian folks. 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.240 That there are sort of segregations even within the migrant community, 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:22.480 and often Haitian folks is kind of segregated out, which 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.960 is which is unfortunately, Like I thought, the horrors one 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.360 is kind of that the population breakdown, Like wouldn't the 0:12:29.360 --> 0:12:35.160 Haitian border crossing be like somewhere else. I don't think 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.640 to say it's dumb at all. I don't know what 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.719 they breakdown. I know there are Haitian people in ware Is. 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.800 I know the at the Cuban folks in Whuaireas too, 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.199 and they've kind of some of them have stayed in 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:48.480 wires and established kind of their own communities and that's 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:52.360 had some sort of some negative results for antimigrant feeling 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.800 in wire Is. From what I've heard, I know there 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:57.280 are a lot of Haitian folks in Tijuana. A lot 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:01.079 of the Haitian people come via Brazil, where they've spent 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.240 time like preparing for the Olympics that were there and 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.560 building stadio and stuff. So a lot of them tell 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:08.480 me they've come up from Brazil and then obviously with 0:13:08.640 --> 0:13:11.679 like increased violence in Haiti. Now you'll see more Haitian 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.319 people again. There's a decent Haitian community that also is 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:18.040 established in Tijuana and has it's that it's their home now, right, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.480 Like I had no idea to be honest, So now 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:23.040 I know, I'll accept being a little bit dumb. So 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:28.360 everyone it's not very well reported on, and I think 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.760 it's honestly people have stopped reporting on it since twenty 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:36.040 twenty as well, like since like Orange man Bad started 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:40.720 being like the prevailing like mass media message, no one 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.880 gives a fuck about microus anymore, Like there's a pronounced 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:47.079 drop off when I cross of people, and I don't know. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.319 There are some very good reporters, of course, you know, 0:13:49.400 --> 0:13:51.439 we've spoken to some of them in Tijuana and in 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:55.880 San Diego. But yeah, you just there was a lot 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.360 of parachute reporting on migration in the tramp Era, and 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.200 some of it very bad, some of it by people 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:06.199 who didn't have the language skills to be working there 0:14:06.240 --> 0:14:08.920 and didn't understand what was respectful and what wasn't and 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:12.080 things like that. So I have strong feelings about how 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.600 the migrant care abound in twenty eighteen was was reported 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.079 on for instance. Yeah, but yeah, you'll definitely see a 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:23.840 ton of Haitian people and that Biden has gone exceptionally hard. 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:25.960 I'll include a link at the bottom of like a 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:29.560 piece I wrote for NBC about bidensti Haitian bullshit but 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.240 like um exceptionally hard, specifically against the Haitian so that 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:36.040 you can find a tweet from the Haitiana of the 0:14:36.160 --> 0:14:39.200 United States Embassy in Haiti where it's just got a 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.960 picture of Biden. I think it says, don't come. I'm 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:46.200 paraphrasing that special account. Yeah, yeah, no, it's wild, Like 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.000 you don't see this in other countries either, even you 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:52.440 know they've made like they've made it. There was a 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:55.840 ton of special exemptions for people from Ukraine, right, it's 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.200 hard not to see that it's RACI of course, yeah, 0:14:58.400 --> 0:15:02.600 of course as Ukraine. Yeah yeah, because then it's yeah, great, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.800 but also you have to look at the like why 0:15:04.840 --> 0:15:07.800 did that happen? Right, And if we can't like express 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:11.800 like Russian bombs killed kids in the m two Russian 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:14.640 bombs killed kids all over fucking Africa, and if we 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:17.400 can't have solidarity with them, or we can with Ukrainian people, 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:19.320 and then it's hard for me not to see that 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.800 as to do with their skin color. Yeah, and then 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.680 that is bullshit, and so yeah, Title forty two were 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:28.200 end in May when the COVID Public Health Emergency Order expires. 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.240 Biden said earlier on that he would end Title forty two. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.680 He then faced these lawsuits from conservative states, but at 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.320 the same time that by the ministration fiercely defended Title 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.480 forty two and litigation brought by the ACLU and other 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.920 groups challenging the policy, and even the CDC right the 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.200 CDC Center for these control was like, now the shit 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:51.160 isn't necessary and it's cool, we should stop. The government 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.480 has argued that public health concerns for letting migrants into 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.640 the country due to continued threat of COVID nineteen outweigh 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.400 the possible harms done to migrants who return to cities 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:04.880 like or Tijuana. Like, you don't even need a COVID 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.120 test to fly into this country, now, I don't think, right, 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:10.760 like my family come visit me. So the end of 0:16:10.800 --> 0:16:13.320 the emergency kind of makes that a moot point, right, Like, 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.760 you can't have a public health order to protect us fromidities, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:19.240 which you're saying, isn't the problem anymore. But the damage 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.000 that this has done will take years to rectify, and 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.680 the backlog that it's created is already being used as 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:29.080 an excuse to do more cruel and inhumane things to 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:32.880 people who are just looking for a fair crack at life. Sure, 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.160 do you know what won't build a wall around itself 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.960 and force people to rest their life to get here? 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.640 You tell me, James, what is it? It is these 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:45.800 silver coins that have Ronald Reagan on them, who probably 0:16:45.840 --> 0:17:01.760 outflanks our current immigration Yep, Uncle ron Okay, we're back, 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.399 Thank you, Ronald Reagan. Or maybe it was a gold advert. 0:17:05.480 --> 0:17:07.159 I hope it was a gold vause I know that 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.040 everyone enjoys so so much. Please don't message Sophie about 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:15.240 the fucking gold things. We know, yeah, we know, we know, 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.919 trust us, we know. Yeah. It's also it's just funny. 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.200 It's funny to me that someone's buying gold adverts and 0:17:21.480 --> 0:17:23.840 presumably none of our listeners are buying gold and get 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:27.880 I have healthcare now, I mean it must be working somewhere, 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.480 like you know what, I mean, why how else would 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.919 they afford to keep advertising? I don't know, Yeah, someone's 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:39.000 doing something. It's like one guy if you are that 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:43.200 steadfast listener who buys everything we advertise, Like, thank you 0:17:43.359 --> 0:17:49.159 so much for our We salute your dedication. So Biden 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.159 hasn't really come up with a distinctive immigration policy of 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:55.240 his own yet. Mostly he's just kind of failed to 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:57.680 undo the damage Trump has. Don't created a two tia 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.320 system which white Ukrainians get to slip the line well 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:04.760 back and brown migrants wait terrible conditions, And for some reason, 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:07.000 he's gone as hard as fuck as he can to 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.640 stop patients coming here, which the reason might be pretty 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.359 obvious to some of you. Oh and we're still building 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.359 the wall, but we're calling it a barrier now of course. 0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.920 So yeah, it's totally different, Brandy. Yeah, it doesn't have 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.200 a little plate on the top. It's a slightly different shape. 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.200 You can, like, if you scroll back far enough on 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.440 my Twitter, you can find comparison pictures of the Biden 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:29.800 barrier and the Trump Wall. But it's like literally just 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.760 like a glow up, like like like a terrible, horrifying 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.480 glow up. Yes, yeah, the walls having it's a little 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.240 it's a freedom wall now or something. But if you 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.520 don't follow the butterfly sanctuary, it's well high value Twitter 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:47.840 account and sometimes stealing automatic rifles. Not stealing, I should say, 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:51.359 but National Guard leaving automatic rifles on her property that 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.560 she takes care of. But yeah, you can listen to 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.800 our Batterfly Sanctuary episodes for more on like the Biden barrier. 0:18:57.720 --> 0:19:00.879 But we're more than halfway through Biden's term now, and 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:04.040 we're beginning to see him take aim at something resembling 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:06.520 a border policy on his own at the same time, 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:08.520 because we're more than halfway through his term, or perhaps 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.480 just because he never intended to fulfill his campaign policies 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.400 about being kind to migrants. He's trying to move towards 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.159 the center, and the center of US politics is like 0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.680 somewhere to the right of Attila the hun these days. 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:25.160 So he's been hit pretty hard by the Republicans on immigration, 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:28.000 and it's worth pointing out that he's been hit pretty 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:30.879 hard on largely on just shit that's made up or 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:36.560 misunderstandings of this, the number of interactions that border patrol 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:40.600 has or willful or unwilful, I don't know, but many 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.640 of the critiques are in pretty bad faith. But nonetheless, 0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:45.879 like it's been an area where they've criticized him right, 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:50.240 And so he's trying to move towards the quote unquote 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.400 center on that with these new policies. So he's proposed 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:57.400 of his administration has proposed something called a transit bans, 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.639 a transit ban, people might remember, and the initial kind 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.960 of proposal of this was made by Stephen Miller. Dude 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.040 who looks like a lollipop and also like a white nationalist. 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.840 That's a great His head is too big for his neck. 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:15.600 He's shiny. Yeah, yeah, that's not the only thing that's 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:20.560 wrong with him. So this proposal would render migrants ineligible 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.280 for US asylum if they crossed the southern border illegally 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:26.480 after failing to US for humanitarian refuge in another country 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.159 they travel through, such as Mexico. Right, So unless you 0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:32.280 somehow come straight to the US, which you can't do 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:33.840 because you can't get on a flight to the US 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:39.520 without the correct travel documents, then you'd have to travel 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.240 through another country, right, And they're saying that you should 0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.600 apply for asylum there. In practice, this would bar most 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:47.600 northern Mexican asylum seekers, unless he took advantage of one 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.280 of the programs that Biden has proposed to allow people 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.280 in Nicaragua Cuba, Haiti, and Venezuela with a US sponsor 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.600 under a humanitarian parole program where they apply from their 0:20:57.640 --> 0:21:01.040 home country and then get to credentials to travel, so 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.879 they'd stay in Cuba or whatever. This might not be 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:08.720 safe for some people to do in those countries, but 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:12.479 they have a means to get here and it's metered 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:16.080 I think at thirty thousand a month. Those people from 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.680 those same countries enduring the same conditions if they came 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:21.800 here on their own and then applied to asylum, as 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.639 is their right under US law once they entered the country, right. 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.840 And it's worth noting that like most people coming in 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:31.720 that want to apply for asylum, so they wanted to 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.520 turn up. That might have changed a little with Title 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.960 forty two, but previously people were seeking to turn themselves 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.200 in right and say hey, I'm here to apply for asylum. 0:21:38.880 --> 0:21:41.800 They can now be expelled under this legislation. Right, So 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:43.520 if they don't use this or they don't have a 0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:46.720 US sponsor, which kind of creates you shouldn't have to 0:21:46.840 --> 0:21:49.959 know someone in America right to come here and avail 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:53.080 yourself of basic human rights. Yeah, it's just it's it's 0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:57.119 purposely like getting people out of the group that can 0:21:57.160 --> 0:21:58.920 go in you know what I mean, Like it's excluding 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:04.840 people but yeah, like yeah, right, thousands of people and 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.440 this legislation now allows them for them to be for 0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:12.800 expedited processing expulsion. Um. If people do want to apply 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:14.919 for asylum at the southern border, they need to use 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.720 an app which is called CBP one. It's just the 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:20.080 craziest thing I've heard in a while. Yeah, it is 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.840