WEBVTT - S.E.’s Talkin’ Coffee … and high-key caffeinism 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:07.320 Welcome to Talk in Coffee. I'm se Cup. I'm joined 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:10.640 by my producers Lauren and Derek. As always, Hi guys. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:12.559 Hello, Good Monday morning to you. 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:16.840 People can't see us, don't realize how much stuff is 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:19.200 on this desk today because we have so much to do. 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:20.720 It's a lot going on. I'm so excited. 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:24.279 We have a lot of jobs today before we even 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.320 get to coffee news. 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:27.600 Oh, we need to. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.960 Talk some coffee. We need to try some coffee. 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:31.120 Please, coffee. 0:00:31.160 --> 0:00:35.240 We are going to I brought in a coffee product. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:40.000 I brought in a coffee accessory. Derek brought in a 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:44.920 coffee food product, coffee candy. Yes, we are really getting 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:48.800 We're getting our hands dirty, We're getting our mouths dirty 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.160 or something. Today. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.880 We're really living the product. We're living the podcast. 0:00:52.960 --> 0:00:57.360 We are It's a lived experience. I love that about us. Okay, 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:02.120 the first thing we have to talk about, let me 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.560 unpack it. Okay, okay, So as everybody knows if you've 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:10.400 been listening to Talk and Coffee, I confessed last year one, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:12.880 the big one. This is the big one. Still feeling 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:16.200 it me too. I've talked to my therapists about it 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:20.800 several times. That I had to switch to decaf coffee. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:25.120 Now we've talked about why, and I think some of 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:29.400 it is like perimenopause getting to a certain age. I 0:01:29.440 --> 0:01:34.040 also just think I've never reacted great to caffeine, and 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:36.640 maybe it's just kind of it's caught up with me 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:39.200 over the years. But something was happening where I was 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:44.200 drinking my morning coffee suddenly and getting very tired, just 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:46.280 like crash out tired. 0:01:46.440 --> 0:01:48.720 Yeah, and so I did it. It's just not what 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:50.960 caffeine is supposed to. It's the opposite of what it's 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:52.920 supposed to do, definitely not what it's sold as. 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:57.160 No. Luckily, I love the flavor of coffee no matter what, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:59.800 so even if it wasn't doing its job, I persisted. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.520 I persisted through that SOB and finally gave in and 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.279 I was like, I can't live like this. I can't 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.799 crash immediately after I finished my first cup of coffee. 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:14.960 So I switched to decaf. And we've discussed the psychological 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.639 sort of shame that identity crisis. It is an identity, 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:25.080 that's right, yeah, crisis. I for a long time associated 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:29.880 decaf with weakness, moral failing. As Derek pointed out, once like, 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:32.400 I'm not as good a person as I used to 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.399 be having switched to decaf. There's a lot that goes 0:02:36.440 --> 0:02:39.480 into this, but I'm fully on the decaff train. Doesn't 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.440 mean occasionally I won't have a cafenated cup, but I'm 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:43.359 fully on the decaf train. 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:46.480 The decaff train runs a little slower. It's it's it's 0:02:46.520 --> 0:02:47.680 not an express train. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.519 Hits all the stops. It's a local train. 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:52.480 But it gets you there. It gets you there, right. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:56.119 It's the delivery system of the flavor I love. It's 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:57.959 the ritual of the thing that I love. 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.120 You can still look forward to it. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.520 I do, and I make my decaff coffee, mine espresso 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.120 decaff coffee every morning, or I go to Duncan and 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:09.760 I get a nice Docah. Fine, Okay. We've discussed many 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:14.160 times on this podcast how there aren't as many decaff options, 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:18.160 that the world is a very caffeinist place. It is. 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:21.760 I think, Derek one time, you said, well for normal people. 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.840 I love how these things these I made like I 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.200 have lodged into. I need to be more careful about 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:29.520 what I say. 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:34.760 Well, my therapist has heard all of these stories. I've 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:36.560 made it into the therapy. 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:39.160 In fact, you know, I'm writing a book about my 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:44.960 mental health. You might be chapter fourteen. I would be honored, kidding. 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.880 But it's a caffeinist world, right, Yeah, Lauren, you are 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.080 talking about your your subscription service JOT coffee. 0:03:52.120 --> 0:03:54.040 They may not have a decaff option. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:59.920 That's insane and really rude. John, if you're listening, fix it, 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:04.920 get on the drink. Oh, DCLF option insane. So cut 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:10.200 to a couple of weeks ago, I'm scrolling on Instagram 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:15.840 and I come across this product that is called low 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:25.080 Key Coffee. It is RTD, which means ready to drink category, 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.720 and that's important because I have two coffee news stories 0:04:29.279 --> 0:04:34.120 about RTD. It is an RTD ready to drink DCLF 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:36.120 coffee in a can. 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.080 It's really cute. I like the coloring. It's like a 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.719 purple purple coloring. 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:41.640 And low key is like a word of the moment. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:42.960 Low key. 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:43.360 Yeah. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:47.600 You guys, remember when we were trying to name rename 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:51.560 coffee so it didn't have the DCAF stigma, and we 0:04:51.640 --> 0:04:54.120 were like, maybe it's chill coffee. Maybe it's you know, 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:57.600 like I forget what all. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.359 The words that we like genius can up with low 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.960 Key coffee, A good one perfect, it's really good description. 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:08.200 I don't need to be amped. Yeah, but I want 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:08.880 my coffee. 0:05:09.000 --> 0:05:11.800 I would love to hear from the person who came 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.440 up with this the backstory of like the other names 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.480 that they came up with before they got to low Key. 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.200 I'm sure there was a whole white board involved. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:21.120 Well, I'm sure. I'm so glad you asked, because when 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:23.479 I saw this on Instagram, I was like, Okay, I 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:25.839 need to order this. Obviously we need to try it 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.479 on Talking Coffee and talk about it. But then I 0:05:28.520 --> 0:05:31.000 realized I know the person who made this coffee. 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:31.880 Oh my gosh, exciting. 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.400 I know him personally. Oh fun. So here's a great story, 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.039 and I think we should have him on the pod 0:05:36.160 --> 0:05:40.719 one hundred percent. Okay, Chris is his name, Okay, Chris Gindalsburger. 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:43.440 But because he lives in DC, he's friends with my 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.440 husband Nice. We all know my husband John Goodwin because 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.839 he lives in DC. The pod friend of Talk Coffee 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.440 because he lives in DC, just like my husband did. 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.320 He has a nickname. It's Gindy. I love. My husband's 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:58.039 nickname is Goody. 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.520 Okay, got a little bit, Yes, so you need their 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:02.240 own podcast. 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:10.480 Guindy and his lovely wife Adriana. Guindy is so he works. 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:14.120 He's a lobbyist, as everyone in DC is in some way. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.160 He's a lobbyist at the National Confectioners Association. 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:18.960 Let's go. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:26.160 This exists big. They like to say over it NCA 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.159 that they have the sweetest staff in DC. Oh, it's 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.919 too easy. He's essentially the head of comms. He's great. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.440 He's been there a really long time and we've known 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.280 him and his his lovely wife Adriana for years and 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:42.560 they together launched this brand. So we can have them 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:44.520 on and ask them the genesis. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:44.960 That's good. 0:06:45.279 --> 0:06:48.760 Were you guys over caffeine? Like what happened there? The 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:52.240 name process, the whole deal. So anyway, I ran into 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:56.000 them at the Correspondence weekend and it was like, Gindy, 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.480 I love this, like I have a whole backstory about 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.159 why I need this in my life and I have 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:06.680 a podcast, Like send me the product combination, and so 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:11.200 they did. They sent us the vanilla it's unsweetened, but 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:17.440 it's vanilla flavored, and they sent us the regular flavored 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.640 to try. So we're gonna try it. I want to 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.960 tell you a little bit, just a little bit about 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.560 lokey coffee, the low key coffee difference. Yea, all right, 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:29.760 this is not an ad. I'm just I'm try it, okay. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.320 Loki Coffee is a decaff coffee company that offers a clean, delicious, 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:36.920 and convenient alternative to caffeinated coffee. Our mission is to 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:39.960 provide high quality, decaff coffee options that cater to a 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:45.840 growing demand. Yes, we are for clean labeled caffeine free beverages. 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:49.200 Now listen to this, and this is also going to 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:53.400 come back later in the pod. The Swiss water process 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.520 is how they get the caffeine out. Listen to this. Okay, 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:02.800 methylene chloride, nope, f lacetate never. Low Key coffee products 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.360 are made from organic coffee beans that are decaffeinated in 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:10.720 a natural way using water, temperature control, and time. The 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:14.200 Swiss water process uses pure water to gently remove caffeine 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:18.520 from coffee beans while preserving the coffee's original flavor characteristics. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.160 The results are the very best decaffed coffee, which is 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:26.080 free from chemicals and processing residue. So we've often talked 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:29.000 about how, yes you get caffeine. 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.920 It's an overarching question and I feel like this just 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.080 hints at like I almost feel like maybe we can 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.160 invite an expert on who can just side through the Yes, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.840 the process is clearly. 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:41.280 There's science, Clearly, there's chemistry. Tackles that I think are 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:42.720 traditionally used to take the caffeine. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:47.280 Those words that they sound evil, they start that underlying. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:47.679 Yeah, don't want that. 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:50.880 I do sort of hesitate a little bit to just 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.080 raise one. The only tiny red flag from what you 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:58.160 were saying is when food products advertise themselves as like clean, 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:00.320 chemical free. A lot of times that's a little bit 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.920 of hype, a little bit of like things sound like 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.280 you said, Lauren, certain words sound scary, but it's just 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.320 a chemical that is totally safe to use. Yeah, so 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.839 there's a little bit of that that I'm like cautious about. 0:09:11.880 --> 0:09:13.600 Well, but I'm sure it is safe to use. It 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:17.559 is what's used, right, But and who knows, maybe it's marketing. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.079 But the idea that they take the caffeine out on 0:09:22.120 --> 0:09:26.240 this Swiss water process, it sounds great, Swiss. Sweet you 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:29.679 told me a Swiss. It's always always that's going to 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:33.320 come back later. I'm so glad, but no, I'm I'm 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:37.559 really I'm really excited my life could change from this, 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:40.199 from the the advent of this product. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:40.960 This is amazing. 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.520 Okay, So I brought us all cups of ice because 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:47.760 these these have not been refrigerated. Who wants to try 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:49.040 vanilla and who wants. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:49.600 To try regular? 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:51.360 Either one? 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.320 Yeah, I'm good with either. 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:53.760 Okay, here you go. 0:09:54.200 --> 0:09:57.439 I'm giving you the regular one you milk vanilla. 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:00.080 I'm going to try the regular the non vanilla, and 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.960 I'm going to put my milk in it and my 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.800 sweetener the way I would have my coffee. Great, okay, 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:12.560 with the smells. The smells a coffemell, sweet smells. Oh 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:13.840 do you think it's concentrated. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.840 I don't know. I mean ideally it's a little concentrated. 0:10:18.440 --> 0:10:20.360 M hm, because then because you're putting it on ice. 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:25.840 Yeah right, it's one hundred percent Arabica beans, single origin. 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:28.280 I never know what that means. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:29.400 Sounds good? 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.040 And is it yeah? Yeah? 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:31.320 Yeah? 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.160 Is it designed maybe you said the story. Is it 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.160 designed to be iced or. 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.480 Like or you can away at least refrigerator it is 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:39.200 supposed to be cold? 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:40.040 Yeah? 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:41.520 Yeah, lay could you. 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:42.240 Pass me that milk? 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:49.280 Yes, thank you? Okay, got my sweetener. Got my milk. 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.439 If anyone needs a stir. 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:54.880 I'll just shake it. I like my coffee shake and 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:55.320 not stirred. 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.400 Can I have a little of that milk as well? 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:03.320 Oh, I can't wait. It does smell good. 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:07.040 To get a sniff of the villa. I feel like 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:13.319 I should have tried the Yeah, it smells sweet, smells 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:14.800 really good. 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:20.240 Okay, ready here we go. Low key coffee lokey. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:29.200 Mm hmmmm. I think that's hike, good, hike. 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:32.480 I really like that low key. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:33.040 That's great. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.920 Yeah, mine is just I just have the black with 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.320 a little bit of milk, great flavor, favor. 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.120 I'm not like a flavored coffee person. Yes, the vanilla 0:11:41.240 --> 0:11:42.880 is not my jams. 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:43.760 A little strong. 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:45.360 It's just the flavor. 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.880 It just ends up not tasting like coffee and tasting fake, 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:54.719 feeling fake. There's a big flavor there. Yeah, anyway, it's 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:56.120 not getting in the way. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:02.040 Yes, I am really liking this non flavored deca. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:04.600 It's very It's almost like refreshing somehow. 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.720 You know. It's funny though, Like the moment I drank it, 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.400 I felt like a placebo. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:11.160 Like caffeine fact. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:14.040 Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to remind yourself this is 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:14.600 in caffeine. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:16.360 This is low key. I can chill out. 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:17.520 This is low key. 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:20.160 Yeah, I'm gonna be able to sip this. 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.880 How does it come into How does it compare to 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:23.760 JOT for you? 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:29.559 If you recall, JOT was a very intense coffee flavor. Yeah, right, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:33.040 almost like a dessert coffee flavor, like coffee ice cream something, 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:37.240 yeah or something. And it felt very caffeinated. Yeah. Remember, 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:38.840 like I had a couple of SIPs and I was 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.760 like feeling it, feeling I gotta put this guy away. 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:45.040 Yeah yeah, but it was a more intense coffee flavor 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:49.040 than this. I don't I don't mind this. In fact, 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.560 I like this a lot, and especially if I just 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.680 need it on the go. I just need an on 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.600 the go decaf. I don't have time to make it, 0:12:56.640 --> 0:12:59.520 which does you know take some time? Yeah, just grab 0:12:59.520 --> 0:12:59.800 and go. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:00.360 Yeah. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:03.959 It's a very smooth flavor. It's very so what that means, 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:05.640 but that feels like the word to use. 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:09.199 It's like it is very smooth. Yeah, and there's no bareness. 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.079 Yes, it feels. 0:13:10.160 --> 0:13:13.760 It does feel more concentrated than some coffee that I 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:15.600 know at some place like feels to me, is not 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:18.480 like the cold brew it's like they've just put coffee 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:22.079 into the fridge and whatever. It does feel that little 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.280 water down. This feels like it can stand up to 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.120 the ice melting. 0:13:25.240 --> 0:13:26.160 Yeah, agreed. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:27.880 And it's a warm day out there in the city. 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:31.880 So yeah, this says best enjoyed choiulder over ice. I'll 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:36.480 give you some facts. It's twelve calories, no fat, two 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:41.520 point five carbs, less than a gram of protein. It's 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:46.080 got some some calcium seven point four milligrams, so just 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.600 a little. The ingredients are water and organic decaf coffee. 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:57.200 It does say twelve mg and milligram of caffeine. 0:13:56.360 --> 0:13:58.480 Yes, which is like a normal cup of coffee is 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.600 one hundred and fifty miligram. Okay, so yeah, so it's 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:06.600 like much less, very very little, right, like less than 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.160 a cup of tea, Like very that's very little caffeine. 0:14:09.280 --> 0:14:12.719 Maybe maybe you wouldn't even notice it unless you were 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:16.120 really really sensitive. I'm not like super sensitive, but I 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:19.000 can definitely feel it when I have it. I feel nothing. 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:19.640 This is great. 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:21.640 Yeah, this is so low key. 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.240 Yeah, I definitely feel like it'd be nice to have 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.720 them on the show because, okay, confirmed it tastes good. 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.080 Yeah, yeah, but I would love to. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.480 Know the like a little bit more of the backstory 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.240 if it's personal, and like what the response has been and. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:36.240 The process, like I want to know it all. Yeah, 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:38.680 and the name. Talk to me about the market, like 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:41.760 the market for decaf coffee and where's it going? And 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:44.120 I'm sure these guys did all their homework and research 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.040 and know everything, so we definitely have to have the guindi's. 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.160 And I also have some questions about a candy Lobbys. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:50.320 So if you get a squeeze ze in. 0:14:50.440 --> 0:14:53.320 Yeah, I want to talk to candy all over the. 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:58.080 Office sings factory basically where they work. 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:02.000 Do they dress colorfully because it feels like they should, right, Well, 0:15:02.280 --> 0:15:04.520 are they a little cool like kookie and wacky and fun? 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:04.840 Yeah? 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:06.280 Are they serious? Who knows? 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.520 I grew up close to the jelly Belly factory in 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:09.360 northern California. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:10.960 It was one of my favorite places to go. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:12.360 Close to the pez factory. 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:15.200 Yeah, orange amazing. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:17.960 And one of the things there's like a tour you 0:15:17.960 --> 0:15:20.200 can go on. And one of the things is they 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:22.280 talk about how much Ronald Reagan loved jelly Belly. 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.640 You did, We're all familiar, So now. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:25.600 I'm thinking it was Gindy. 0:15:25.680 --> 0:15:28.480 I don't know if he was probably not not back then, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:33.480 but what maybe Guindy's Guindy's a boss or predecessor was 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:35.800 big on getting Reagan hooked on. 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:39.360 Like one, when did the candy lobbyists come into play? 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:42.320 Did they come up through the playground lobbyists? Like, what's 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:43.000 the story there? 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:50.320 That might have been inside job getting getting Reagan hooked 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:51.840 on jelly bellies love it? 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:53.320 Who knows he'll. 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.720 Have he'll have stories to tell for sure. It's a 0:15:56.760 --> 0:15:58.040 long time candy lobbyists. 0:15:58.080 --> 0:15:59.280 Yeah, we definitely got to get him on. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.240 Okay, Guindy, as you're you're invited on, I will book 0:16:02.280 --> 0:16:05.920 them and then we'll talk about this great new coffee product. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.000 And we did hear anecdotically from our own listeners that 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:11.480 there are a lot of other decaf feeling a little 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:15.320 shameful listeners drinkers. So if there's any more out there, 0:16:15.880 --> 0:16:16.480 I'm not alone. 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:21.320 Even though Derek regularly, I mean, you know, even though 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:23.920 Rocco di Spirito was like, don't try that in Italy. 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:25.440 Good luck in Italy. 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.840 He's like, well, they're not going to deport you. 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.600 To deport you, but like they will not enjoy you. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.520 They will not be kind. There is no option. Yeah, 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:36.960 he's like, don't even try it. You bring your own. 0:16:37.080 --> 0:16:39.840 So but listen, I've gotten used to living life in 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:40.840 a caffeinist world. 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:42.800 Yeah on the outskirts. 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:45.840 But thanks to low Key Coffee again not sponsored, but 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.960 Guindy feel free. Thanks to low Ki Coffee, the world 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:51.800 is a little less caffeinist for me. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:53.880 A little more inclusive. 0:16:53.960 --> 0:17:09.120 It's a little inclusive. Okay, Well that was really fun. 0:17:09.600 --> 0:17:11.600 Super glad we did that. I brought in something else. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.399 It's hard to even imagine what you're what you're holding. 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:20.399 It's okay, so I saw this on TikTok. I'm just 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.600 going to open them and hopefully they become self explanatory. 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.920 But pa, you're opening a plata container filled with. 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:35.840 Like gauze patches or something. Yeah. So these are on 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:46.400 the go portable coffee filters for so you open these 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:52.040 guys up. Cute. I know Derek is dying right now. Okay. 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:56.719 So it's it has little like cardboard tabs that you 0:17:56.760 --> 0:17:59.880 pull up and then it hangs like two arms over 0:17:59.920 --> 0:18:00.440 your cup. 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:04.760 Wow, and it's a mini filter. Very can you pour 0:18:04.880 --> 0:18:06.720 your pour over right into it? 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:09.080 Right into the cup. Yeah, so can you. 0:18:09.160 --> 0:18:12.040 Matt, like on planes? Maybe I don't know where you're 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:12.480 bringing this? 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.399 Yeah, you would need like I guess if you know, 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.480 if the plane came through and they're pouring for tea 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.119 and you like had this already, it could be like 0:18:19.160 --> 0:18:20.439 just a little hot water in this. 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.879 Okay, Yes, you would bring your own, like coffee beans 0:18:24.480 --> 0:18:25.680 the crown. 0:18:25.960 --> 0:18:27.280 I would. I would bring the beans and I would 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:28.439 grind it right there on the plane. 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:30.200 Nice, very performative. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:32.399 You have a hand grinder. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:32.520 Right, I do? 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.040 And then I okay, so then yeah, I guess because 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:37.680 I'm trying. At first, I was like, well, where would 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.320 you need to make poor of a coffee? 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:41.960 And the only thing you lacked was a filter? 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:42.840 Right right? 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:43.280 Right? 0:18:43.320 --> 0:18:45.160 But I would say like the office, Yeah. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.040 Because actually, when you think about it, there actually are 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.480 a lot of places where hot water is available to you, 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:51.359 so you can get the hot water. So this it 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:54.960 solves that problem of yeah, it's essentially it's not just 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.000 the filter that you need, it's also the This eliminates 0:18:57.000 --> 0:18:58.840 the need for like the plastic cup that holds the 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.040 filter exactly. It's all contained. You can and then you 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:02.840 throw it away, Yeah. 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.080 Throw it away very clever, so you must go and try. 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.320 Wow, I definitely will thank you. And this looks like 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:09.120 there's a thousand. 0:19:09.960 --> 0:19:11.480 It was like the only way here. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:14.480 Yeah, I love it. Okay, Well I'm I will I 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.440 will try it and report back so much. 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:17.639 Okay. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:19.640 I brought a gift of my own. Should we get 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:19.920 to that. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:20.560 Absolutely? 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.480 Okay. Well, after after many weeks now of. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:29.160 Promising this, I went to Trader Joe's and I got 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.960 one of my favorite things that Trader Joe's has. It's 0:19:32.000 --> 0:19:36.560 the Coffee Lovers espresso beans, chocolate covered espresso beans, inspired 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.760 by your inspired by your favorite sweet coffee combinations. Because 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.320 they are different. I never like really distinguish when I'm 0:19:43.320 --> 0:19:46.600 eating them, but like there are different flavored ones, and 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:48.880 like slightly you'll notice slightly different, like. 0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:50.080 Extrue I'm going to notice. 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:51.040