1 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Cultivating her Space. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 2: So abuse of any kind is a sign that this 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: relationship needs to be done, and I understand the complexity 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: involved when there is abuse. I understand the cycle of 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: abuse that oftentimes it takes us multiple attempts to walk away, 6 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: But lady, you keep trying. 7 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: Today's episode is sure to provide you with motivation, inspiration, 8 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: or a fresh perspective. If you have any AHA moments 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: or appreciate anything from this episode, please leave us a 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: review to let us know we're on the right track. Also, 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: we release episodes every Friday, so be sure to subscribe 12 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: on iTunes and visit cultivatinghurspace dot com to access our 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: exclusive after show and other bonus content from the Patreon tab. 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cultivating her Space, a podcast dedicated to uplifting 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 2: women like you. We're your hosts doctor Dominique Broussard, a 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: college professor and psychologist. 17 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 3: And Terry Lomax, a techie and motivational speaker. In a 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 3: world where black women are often misrepresented and misunderstood, please 19 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: join us as we initiate authentic conversations on everything from 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: fibroids to fake friends, and create a safe space where 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 3: black women can just be. 22 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: Hey, lady, is doctor dom here from the Cultivating her 23 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 2: Space podcast. Are you currently a resident of the state 24 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: of California in contemplating starting your therapy journey? Well, if so, 25 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 2: please reach out to me at doctor Dominique Brussard dot com. 26 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: That's d R D O M I N I q 27 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: U E B R O U ssard dot com to 28 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: schedule a free fifteen minute consultation. I look forward to 29 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: hearing from you. Our quote of the day. Y'all get 30 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: ready for this one. Six letters two words, easy to say, 31 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: hard to explain, harder to do. Move on. Now I'm 32 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 2: run that back and say one more time for the 33 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 2: people in the back, because, as our quote emphasizes, it 34 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: is hard to do. Six letters, two words, easy to say, 35 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 2: hard to explain, to do, Move on. The author of 36 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 2: this genius quote is unknown. Lettie. This quote right here, 37 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: this quote right here. 38 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 3: Ooh mm hmm, this quote right here really hits. And 39 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: when you read that, IBus just like, but it's so hard, 40 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking, So hard it is. Yeah, 41 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: what do you think about this quote? Down? 42 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: You know, when I hear this quote, I think about 43 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: all of the previous relationships, situationships, quick dating, whatever you 44 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 2: want to call it, interactions with men in my life 45 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: in the past. Right, And I recognize that moving on 46 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:17,040 Speaker 2: is so complex and so nuanced, and it truly is 47 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: dependent upon the circumstances in which you find yourself. 48 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: I'm with you that. I mean, I think you hit 49 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,679 Speaker 3: the nail on the head. It is complex. I think 50 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: that the human experience is just complex. That's that's all 51 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 3: I got. It's like, it's complex. So, lady, we're just 52 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 3: gonna go ahead and just set the show up and 53 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: just jump into this juicy conversation because it's complex and 54 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: it's an important conversation topic to talk about. And as 55 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 3: we all know, relationships are a fundamental part of our lives, right, 56 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 3: providing love, companionship, support, all that good stuff. But what 57 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 3: happens when a once thriving connection begins to fade? How 58 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,119 Speaker 3: do we know when it's time to let go? Right? So, Lady, 59 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,799 Speaker 3: in this episode, we are going to cover nine signs 60 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 3: that may indicate it's time to move on from a relationship. 61 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: And these signs are crucial to recognize. They can also 62 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 3: help us make difficult decisions our own well being. Even 63 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 3: though it may be very challenging and hard to do 64 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 3: in the well being of our partners. And so, whether 65 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 3: you're questioning the health of your own relationship or simply 66 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: seeking a deeper understanding of the signs that can signal change, 67 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: this episode is for you, and you definitely want to 68 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 3: stay until the end because we want to give you 69 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: an opportunity to ponder on some reflection questions and also 70 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 3: share your insight on what are the signs that you 71 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 3: think we need to be aware of and be thinking 72 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: of when it comes to leaving a relationship. So, dom, 73 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 3: I feel like we should dive into storytime or some 74 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 3: reflection questions to help ground us further before we jump 75 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: into these sevens or these nine signs. Excuse me? 76 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 2: Yes, nine, nine? 77 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: Fine. 78 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: So I think it's important to think about, you know, 79 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 2: what has kept you in a relationship past its expiration date? 80 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: I know for me personally, when I when I hear 81 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: that question, the first thing I think about is how 82 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 2: do I know that we've hit an expiration date? Because 83 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: sometimes you might be in denial, you might be not 84 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: in tune, So the awareness isn't there to recognize that, yeah, 85 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 2: this relationship has run its course. And so I think 86 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: that that might be something that keeps you there past 87 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: the expiration date because you don't even realize us that 88 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 2: you've hit that expiration date. 89 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: Amen to that, which is why I think relationship checkings 90 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: are important, because that just gives you space to reflect 91 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 3: in aligne without having to potentially have an awkward conversation 92 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 3: out of the blue. But girl, speaking of what's kept 93 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 3: me in a relationship past this experts date, let's jump 94 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 3: into I'm going to share some of my personal experience, 95 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: but also experiences of friends and whatnot and things that 96 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: we probably all heard, right, So one, let's let's be rare. 97 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: Let's keep it a buck. Okay, the sex sometimes shit 98 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 3: hit the fan. You know this relationship ain't going nowhere. 99 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: But she was like that did good. 100 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: Fast fasts? 101 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: Good good? 102 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 2: Ha's ket plenty of people in a relationship past it's exploration. 103 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 3: Wow, And that makes it complex, right because she's like, 104 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: you do my body so well? Like I really love 105 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: this part of the connection, but everything else is just 106 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: shit show? Right, So the sex, right, I would say. Also, Dom, 107 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is necessarily me, but I've 108 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: heard friends talk about the comfort. Right, You're just you're 109 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: accustomed to this person. You've been Latin. It's routine, it's 110 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: a part of your routine, right, and you're comfortable, Like 111 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: why do I I don't want to go meet someone 112 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 3: else and do the extra work because this is my 113 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 3: comfort zone, right Dating. 114 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 2: The knee streets is hard, so you might be like, 115 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to do my known, veritable right here, 116 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 2: Like why do I need to add new things into 117 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: the mix? 118 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 3: Mm hmm yep, this is what I know. I would say. 119 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: Another is there's this idea that the time invested in 120 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: something guarantees longevity or I'm trying to think of how 121 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: to word that. Does that make sense? 122 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: Time? 123 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: But the time invested guarantees longevity? Does that make sense? 124 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 2: It makes sense, but it doesn't like you know what 125 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 2: I understand? 126 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 3: Don't. 127 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: I don't agree with that to that, Yes. 128 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: But have you seen people get caught up in that 129 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: where you're like, you know what, But I've invested fifteen 130 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 3: years of my life in this relationship. I gotta make 131 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,439 Speaker 3: it work. I gotta stay. 132 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: You don't, No, you don't. 133 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 3: That's fifteen years I lived experience. It's fifteen years of 134 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 3: lessons learned. And now you you are you can if 135 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 3: you so choose, go out and embark on a new 136 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 3: journey and begin begin something new. Right, So I would 137 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 3: say that boredom. Sometimes it's just like I'm just it's 138 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 3: Saturday night. Oh got shit to do. I'm gonna just 139 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 3: call up like you know, right right? Two more another 140 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 3: not wanting to add to the body count. I think 141 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: that is a thing. 142 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 2: It is a thing that we need to let go. 143 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: I say, I don't subscribe to the body I feel 144 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 3: like it's only the body count is only for women 145 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: up here, Like when you go to social media or 146 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: you have conversations with folks, it seems like it's primarily 147 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 3: for women because men cannot just do whatever they want 148 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 3: to do. That's what That's what I sense. But I 149 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: don't subscribe to that. Lady. You do what you want 150 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 3: to do, Do what you want to do with your body, 151 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 3: your body, your choice. Okay. So that I definitely heard 152 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 3: friends like, oh man, well, I want to keep my 153 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 3: number down to three. So I'm just gonna circle back 154 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: to this toxic this toxic person, because I just want 155 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: to keep that number. Girl, you better go, you better go, 156 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: get you some and be safe and all. That's like, 157 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 3: be safe and you know, secure, but go get you something. 158 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 3: And then the last thing I would say is least 159 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: two would be like insecurity and loneliness. So I'm just 160 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: going to say like, as a you know mother that's 161 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 3: two years postpartum, Oh, that experience is something else, right, 162 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 3: And I'm thinking about moms stuff talked to where it's like, well, 163 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 3: my body's changed. Who else is gonna want my body? 164 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: After having given birth and had these transitions in My 165 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 3: partner knows my body. They've been here, they were on 166 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 3: this journey with me. So going into a new person 167 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: and I'd rather just again go back to that comfort zone, right, 168 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: So it could be some of the insecurities around body 169 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: or other things, and then also loneliness. Those are some 170 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,599 Speaker 3: of the things that I think keep people in a 171 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: relationship past the expression date, the children as well, the 172 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 3: children as well. Yes, girl, hey lady, have you ever 173 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 3: been listening to the podcast and been like, damn, I 174 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 3: wish I could be in the same room with doctor 175 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 3: dom T and the other listening ladies. Well you ain't 176 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: the only one. 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The kids actually should be the reason that 195 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: you leave, because the kids, whether they are articulating it 196 00:12:52,600 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: to you or not, they are observing and absorbing all 197 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: of those interactions between you and your partner, and you 198 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: choosing to stay for them is not going to be 199 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 2: healthy for your kids In the long run. Your kids 200 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: are going to start acting out your relationship with them 201 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: may change, and you are also modeling for them and 202 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 2: setting the foundation for how they view relationships in the future. 203 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: And so while it might not be easy if the 204 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: kids are the reason, the sole reason that you're trying 205 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: to stay, let's turn that around and make the kids 206 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: the sole reason why you want to leave, because you 207 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 2: want to create a healthier environment for them. 208 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree that, dumb and you hear that 209 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 3: often right, People say they stay for the kids, And 210 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 3: of course, lady, everyone has their own journey. We always 211 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: want to say, you're going to, you know, do what's 212 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: best for you. I personally do subscribe to the belief 213 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: that mommy, like the parents, need to be okay as 214 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: individuals in order for them to show up for the children. 215 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: And the thing about it is children are resilient. I 216 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 3: would much rather I think about my upbringing and I'm like, 217 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: I think that, you know, certain people my family probably 218 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: should have separated versus having us a toxic environment, because 219 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: my thing is, why be dysfunctional as fuck and have 220 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: us in this abusive, dysfunctional environment just to say, oh, 221 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: we stayed together, we've been married for x amount of years, 222 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 3: but it was still toxic and detrimental to our growth 223 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 3: and development. Whereas you could have just separated, did you had? 224 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: You know whatever, If the kids are going back and 225 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: forth to environments, maybe it would be a more positive 226 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 3: environment because the two people are not together in this 227 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 3: toxic space. So I think that doing what's best for 228 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: the adult and children ourbis of course, keeping the children 229 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: in mind, right, so having a safe and secure environment 230 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: for them, but making sure that the adults are whole 231 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: and supported and they're on their growth the journey. Because 232 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 3: kids are resilient, they're going to be okay. And I 233 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: think that a child will thrive a lot better with positive, free, 234 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 3: happy parents than yours that are just trying to stay 235 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 3: together to meet this. I don't know societal expectation or 236 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 3: to just to say that they've been together for X 237 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: amount of years, that just it doesn't mean to me. 238 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: So it doesn't, it doesn't. 239 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: Shall we jump into these nine signs. 240 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: Let's do it. 241 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 3: Let's do it. Let's do it. So Number one, Lady 242 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: is lack of mutual respects. Okay, lack of mutual respect. 243 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 3: Respecting the relationship is important in general, right, And I 244 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 3: think that when it comes to oh goodness, Dom, this 245 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 3: is a This is an interesting one to me because 246 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: I think that the standard of respect that we have 247 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 3: in a relationship will differ. I know that there are 248 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: some couples and some people that I know who have 249 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: like a doughs but a long day. I feel like 250 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: my words are escaping me. But they have a unique 251 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 3: sense of humor, i'll say, or a rough sense of humor, 252 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: so they may call each other names and things like that. 253 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 3: For my standard of respect, we won't do that. We're 254 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: not playing those games, We're not calling each other names. 255 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 3: That's just my personal standards. So I think that at 256 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: the end of the day, you have to have a 257 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 3: baseline for what disrespect me and look like to you, 258 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: and then go from there, right because everyone's everyone's version 259 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 3: is going to be different. I know some people who 260 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 3: are more rough house. They want to play, they want 261 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 3: to have that type of banter, and then others and 262 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 3: may not connect with them. Now, when I think about 263 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 3: disrespect for me, that's belittling someone, dismissing them, disregarding their 264 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 3: feelings or opinions. That's what I see is disrespect in general. 265 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 3: What do you think about this particular sign? 266 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you covered it. I think that this 267 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 2: is like you as an individual, you know what respect 268 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: looks like for you, right, you know what's needed for 269 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: you to feel respected in by your partner, and if 270 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: you are not seeing that, and conversely, if you are 271 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 2: not able to give your partner the respect that they 272 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: are looking for, because there are times, let's just be real, 273 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 2: there are times when you lose respect for a person 274 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 2: in your life, and if it's your partner, then that 275 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: means that you are then starting to engage in unhealthy 276 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: dynamics with them because you don't respect them. Yes, and 277 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 2: so when there is no longer mutual respect, it's time 278 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 2: to go. It's time to move on. 279 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a huge one. Dom. It can definitely erode 280 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: the foundation of a relationship. And I think back to 281 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 3: moments where someone where someone did something and I lost 282 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 3: respect for them, and it just it gives you a 283 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 3: certain type of energy, like there are certain things I 284 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 3: may not have said or done before, but now that 285 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't have respect for you, it's just like fuck 286 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 3: all that, Like I talk to you a little crazy, 287 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: like I'll just treat you a certain way because it's like, oh, no, 288 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 3: you did this, I don't respect you anymore. And now 289 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: I'm moving into dangerous territory right because it's like a 290 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 3: down slope. Yeah, not good, not good, not good. 291 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 2: So then that takes us to number two, persistent negative patterns. 292 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: So to me, persistent negative patterns can look like or hygiene. 293 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: It could look like substance abuse, not and I want 294 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: to be clear and differentiate between substance use and abuse. 295 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: It is substance abuse. So, and it's interfering with how 296 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: they treat you, it's interfering with their day to day functioning. 297 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 2: It's a problem at that point, it's a problem. Negative 298 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: patterns can also look like how they engage with you 299 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: and with those around them, and so it can also 300 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 2: look like they are no longer meeting financial obligations or 301 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 2: maybe they've picked up gambling or some other addiction that 302 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 2: is again interfering with your and their day to day living. 303 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 2: So to me, those are the persistent negative patterns. And 304 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 2: when you have these persistent negative patterns that they aren't changing, 305 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 2: it's a problem. It's time to move on, it's time 306 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: to go our separate ways. 307 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 3: That is so good. I didn't even think about hygiene 308 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 3: down That's a really great one to bring up. One 309 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: of the things that this particular sign brings that for 310 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 3: me is this question of how do you feel in 311 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 3: your relationship most of the time, because things are going 312 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 3: to happen, like we all have some type of toxic 313 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: behavior or something right. But when you think about the 314 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: key word here is pattern, what's happening on a consistent basis? 315 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 3: So is it constant arguments, emotional manipulation, cycles of hurt 316 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: and confusion, or cycles of hurt and forgiveness or unforgiveness 317 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: or confusion where someone's gaslighting, you're trying to make you 318 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 3: confused and question your reality, things of that nature. So 319 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: I think thinking about the patterns, but also are they 320 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 3: on a journey to personal growth? Are they trying to change? 321 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 3: I know when I first got intoid my relationship, I 322 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: was I had some communication, some poor communication. Okay, my 323 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: style of communicating was not very good, but I was 324 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 3: on a journey to work on it. So I was 325 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: progressively getting better over time, versus me just being stagnant 326 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 3: and just being like, oh, well, this is the way 327 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 3: I am. It is what it is, and that's just 328 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 3: what it is, you know. So I think that's a 329 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: really really yeah, that's a good one. Great points there. 330 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: Now this takes us to number three, which his apologies 331 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 3: with no change behavior. I mean, if you're going to 332 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 3: be apologizing, okay, cool, but like what is your action plan? 333 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,959 Speaker 3: That's my question, right, what is your action plan? Kind 334 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 3: of going back to what we just said to ensure 335 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 3: that you're progressive, progressively getting better, Like you're actually making 336 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: an attempt, You're not just paying me lip service. And 337 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 3: I am a project manager at heart. There are certain 338 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 3: areas in my life that I want to develop personally, 339 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: and if I don't write it down and create a 340 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,479 Speaker 3: plan for that, it usually isn't going to happen. So 341 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: I think that it may sound a bit prescriptive or 342 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 3: stilly or oh that's too much. Well, if you want 343 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 3: to change behavior, you really care about your relationship. I 344 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: believe that people should be making an effort to reprogram 345 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: them themselves in their mind to do better, because a 346 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: lot of us are just working on the program, right, 347 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: the programming that we got growing up and what we've 348 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 3: done in all previous relationships, and so it isn't gonna 349 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 3: take just one conversation to undo that. It really does 350 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 3: take intentionality, reprogramming, some exercises, maybe some journaling, maybe some therapy. 351 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 3: It's gonna take some work, right. You didn't get there overnight, 352 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 3: so it's gonna take some time to reprogram yourself. 353 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 2: What do you think, don So, I think that that's 354 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 2: an important thing to acknowledge, right that while we're saying 355 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 2: apologies with no change behavior, we're not expecting the change 356 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: behavior to occur immediately. Right. But if this person keeps 357 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: apologizing and the behavior continues to occur and there is 358 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 2: no sign of changing the behavior. So let's say that 359 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 2: the behavior looking for them to change is going to 360 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 2: take ten steps, and they've apologized twice, you don't see 361 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 2: any of the steps taking place. That's how you know 362 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 2: it's time to move on. Right. But if they've apologized 363 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: twice and they're on like step three, that's something we 364 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 2: can work with because they're taking the steps to change 365 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 2: the behavior. But if they get stuck at step three 366 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 2: and then they're continuing to engage in that behavior, we 367 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 2: got a problem and it's time to move on. 368 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: Also, Tom, I think a really good question to ask 369 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: a partner, y'all, if you're serious slash your relationship, now, 370 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: ask your partner as you're having conversations and you notice 371 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: that certain patterns are coming up, right, Because when you're 372 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 3: in a relationship for a long time, or not even 373 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 3: a long time, when you're in a relationship for a period, 374 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 3: you start to notice patterns. So at some point when 375 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: you can, when you see that the pattern is persistent, 376 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: it might be wise to ask, what are you doing 377 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: to ensure that this doesn't happen again? Yes, you may 378 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 3: make a mistake, but what are you actively doing on 379 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: your end to ensure that you're at least making some 380 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 3: type of progress Because you can't keep apologizing and keep 381 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 3: doing the same thing over and over because it's not 382 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: getting us anywhere. So yeah, yep, great, great points. 383 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: And so then that takes us to sign number four, 384 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 2: consistent mind games and gas lighting. Now, lady, we have 385 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 2: multiple episodes where we have addressed this issue. So season seventeen, 386 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: episode three, what gas lighting, red flags and manipulation looks like? 387 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: Season ten, episode two is your partner on Narcissists Diving 388 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: into Doctor Romany Diversala's narcissism quiz? Season ten, episode three, 389 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: how to finally leave your narcissistic partner with doctor Romney Diversala. 390 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: So we give you the signs of how to identify 391 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: that your partner is gaslighting you, that your partner might 392 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 2: be narcissistic if you believe that your partner is gaslighting you, 393 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 2: and there are frequent mind games and going back to 394 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: signs two and three, there's these apologies with no change 395 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 2: behavior and the gas lighting continues, and the mind games 396 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: and manipulation continue. It's time to move on, lady. You 397 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: deserve much better than that. 398 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: Yes, we have a ton of episodes about this topic, 399 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 3: so you could definitely dive in deeper. There are two 400 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 3: things I want to add on, and I really feel 401 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 3: like you put you hit the nail on the head 402 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 3: with this one. I would say, lady, is your in 403 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 3: your relationship and you start to notice these moments of like, 404 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 3: wait a second, that didn't happen, Like if they say 405 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: little things like that, start to take notes. I feel 406 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: like taking notes in journaling or creating voice notes about 407 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 3: certain instances that saved me so many times. Because sometimes 408 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 3: we can low key gas like ourselves and or just 409 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 3: believe the other person. We just mean, well, we wouldn't 410 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 3: gas like people intentionally, so when someone doesn't us, we're like, oh, 411 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 3: maybe I did forget that right, So you ask them 412 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 3: a question about you know, where were you at on 413 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 3: Friday night or what'd you do? And the story ends 414 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 3: up changing when you get you know, you get more 415 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: details later and you're like, wit a second, that sound right, 416 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 3: or they start to make you question reality, Like you 417 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 3: say one thing and they're like, oh, hey, remember you 418 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 3: left the keys in this compartment. You're like, I definitely 419 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: didn't do that. Make a note of those things so 420 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 3: that you can check yourself and have a backup and 421 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: have a witness within yourself. All right, lady. That moves 422 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 3: us on to number five, which is misaligned life goals 423 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 3: and values. And honestly, here Dom, I feel like people 424 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 3: just people often row apart, and there's nothing wrong with that. 425 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 3: It's okay. I think that you know, we evolve and 426 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,439 Speaker 3: change at different paces within relationships. And so if you 427 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: find that, you know, you really feel called and led to, 428 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 3: I don't know, move to Ghana and I don't know, 429 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 3: pursue a career out there, and your partner really wants 430 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 3: to stay in the Midwest or something, right, Like, you 431 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 3: just have totally different life paths that you did not 432 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 3: foresee when you got together, Like it might be time 433 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 3: you may not want to do that long distance right, Like, 434 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 3: you may not want to do that. It may be 435 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: time to shift. Or maybe you're just on a different 436 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: path and you adopted new values that conflict with the 437 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: other person. Or maybe you're into a different religious or 438 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 3: spiritual lifestyle and it just doesn't connect. I personally believe 439 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: that forcing anything is just going to strain the relationship. 440 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 3: So sometimes you just got to let what they say, 441 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 3: let bygones be bygones, and just be like, all right, 442 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: it was some while it lasted. We had a good experience, 443 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 3: We learned a lot, and let's keep it pushing. 444 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And I think the thing is is that 445 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 2: like once you if you've done the work right, like 446 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: you and your partner are recognizing that you're misaligned on 447 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: your life goals and values, communication is key. You have 448 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: the conversation about it. If you all are not able 449 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: to get on the same page, maybe you try a 450 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: couple's therapy, right, Maybe you have dig into what's at 451 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: the root of this, right, because maybe the misalignment is 452 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 2: more like a misunderstanding that maybe at the root the 453 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 2: goals and values are still the same, but the route 454 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: to get there might be different. And if the route 455 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 2: to get there is different, but the goals and values 456 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: are still the same. That's something that can be worked with. 457 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 2: But you all have to have the hard conversations. And 458 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: if you've had the hard conversations and it's still clear, 459 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 2: it's very clear that you are misaligned, it's okay to 460 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: let go. And it'll be hard, but it's okay to 461 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: let go. That takes us to sign number six emotional 462 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 2: or physical abuse. I would also add in their financial abuse, 463 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 2: sexual abuse. So abuse of any kind is a sign 464 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: that this relationship needs to be done. And I understand 465 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 2: the complexity involved when there is abuse. I understand the 466 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: cycle of abuse that oftentimes it takes us multiple attempts 467 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 2: to walk away, but latery you keep trying and get help, 468 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: get the access the resources that you need to support 469 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 2: you in that decision to walk away. But whenever there 470 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: is abuse of any kind, this is not the relationship 471 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: for you. It's time to walk away. 472 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 3: Aim into that dime. And I would say even if 473 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: that's abuse of your children or children that are in 474 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 3: your care, or even family members, because oftentimes, if someone 475 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: is abusing to someone else, a lot of times that 476 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 3: abuse is going to end up coming to you at 477 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 3: some point, right, So they may be projecting that onto 478 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: someone else, but it may come back, it may come 479 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: around to you. So yes, lady, you got this. Keep 480 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 3: trying and dow, I think you Yeah, I think you 481 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: covered that one. So I'm gonna go ahead and move 482 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: on to number seven, which is persistent unhappiness and unfulfillment. 483 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 3: And this kind of goes back to that question I 484 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 3: asked earlier where I said, you know, how do you 485 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: feel most of the time in your relationship? And yeah, 486 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: I mean if you think, if you ask yourself that 487 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: question and be reflective. I think sometimes life can be 488 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 3: so busy. We have so much going on, and it's 489 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 3: easy to get caught up into our routine, right, Like 490 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: you're just caught up in the routine. And I know 491 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: some people who are like that now, and there is 492 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 3: no happiness. There is no joy, there is no fulfillment, 493 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: there is no romance. And they're staying because of the children. 494 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 3: They're staying because I literally remember someone we can't give 495 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 3: names and stuff like that. I got to protect you know, 496 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 3: people's identity, but someone literally was like, I'm waiting for 497 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 3: this my partner to pass away. They have children and everything, 498 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 3: and it's a toxic, dysfunctional relationship and they're just waiting 499 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: for the other person to die so they don't have 500 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 3: to make them move and leave. And it's just sad 501 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: because it's like in the meantime, you're still dealing with 502 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 3: all the dysfunction and you're kind of just you're just suffering, 503 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: you know, And so thinking about yeah, personal growth of 504 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 3: your own I just think about sometimes it's so powerful 505 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: to be able to step out and find your own 506 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 3: happiness if that relationship is no longer providing you with 507 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 3: the or providing you with the fulfillment or happiness that 508 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 3: it once did, or that you desire or need based 509 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 3: on who you are today. 510 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 2: And I think, you know, I think it's important to 511 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 2: also clarify that that the unhappiness and unfulfillment is persistent, right, yes, 512 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: that the reality of any relationship is that you are 513 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: not going to be happy and fulfilled every single day, 514 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 2: every single moment that relationship. Let's just let's just take 515 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: that fantasy off the table. That would be amazing if 516 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: life were like that. But that's why it's a fantasy, 517 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: because that's not reality. That's not how real life works. 518 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 2: After that honeymoon phase, because I know we all enjoy 519 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 2: that honeymoon phase of the relationship where you wake up 520 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: smiling because you and your boot thing just like y'all's 521 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 2: peaches and cream. It's everything is roses right. And then 522 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: you wake up one day and you're like, you look 523 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 2: over and he might be snoring, he might be farting, 524 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 2: and you're like, what did I sign up for? But 525 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 2: that's that's today. Tomorrow you might wake up and you 526 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 2: might be I love his stinky parts, like, and then 527 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 2: the next day you might wake up and you're like, 528 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 2: you know what, that snoring works on my nerves, But 529 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 2: I don't know if I would be happy if I 530 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: didn't hear that snoring every night. And then maybe two 531 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 2: months from now, you're like, if this dude don't get 532 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 2: up out my face, I'm I'm so done. I need 533 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: a vacation from him. That's the cycle of relationships, Like 534 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 2: it makes sense that that will happen. But if you 535 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,240 Speaker 2: find yourself, it's when you find yourself in a space 536 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: of more days than not, more moments than not, you 537 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: find yourself feeling unhappy and unfulfilled, and you've communicated what 538 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 2: you need. You've communicated what you want nothing is changing. 539 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 2: That's the persistent unhappiness and unfulfillment, and that's when it's 540 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 2: time to let go. 541 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 3: That is a great distinction, don And the other thing 542 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 3: that I meant to say that I want to emphasize 543 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 3: is that we're not talking about you looking for happiness 544 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: and fulfillment from the partner. I believe that that needs 545 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 3: to come from within, so you being happy within yourself, 546 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 3: you being a whole and fulfilled within yourself. But if 547 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 3: there a certain relationship needs that are being met, or 548 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: if that person is just down, like they're just bringing 549 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 3: everything down and they're presenting an energy that is bringing 550 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,839 Speaker 3: about unfulfillment and unhappiness, then that's and again it's persistent, right, 551 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about there. 552 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And being clear too that of what that 553 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: persistence really looks like, right, and recognizing that, particularly when 554 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 2: you're married, you take that vow of in sickness and 555 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 2: in health. So we're not saying your partner is sick 556 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 2: and you're feeling unfulfilled and you're unhappy, I'm walking away. 557 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. I want to be clear, 558 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 2: So don't come for me. If your partner don't come 559 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 2: for me for that. What I'm saying is all things 560 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: being equal, no major life changes. You are finding yourself 561 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: feeling consistently unhappy and unfulfilled, then it's time to walk away. 562 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: And so then that takes us to sign number eight. 563 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 2: And I believe that this one is one that really 564 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: is a catch all violating your non negotiables. I just 565 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 2: want to be clear that when you you are, before 566 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: you get into a relationship, you should be clear and 567 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: every now and then you go through and you reevaluate 568 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 2: this list because things change as you go through life. 569 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 2: Because my list of non negotiables and needs and wants 570 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:25,120 Speaker 2: has definitely shifted from when I was twenty and so 571 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 2: when you have your list of non negotiables, and I 572 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 2: want to be clear also that a non negotiable is 573 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: the thing that if your partner does this, you are 574 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: out the door, right And for each individual, your non 575 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 2: negotiables is going to be different. Personally. Physical abuse is 576 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: on that list of non negotiables, right. That's something that 577 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 2: if this happens, we don't need to have any conversation. 578 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 2: I'm out, We are done, done, done, Okay, put your 579 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 2: hands on me, and I'm out. Cheating. For some people, 580 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: that's a controversial non negotiable. For some people, they might 581 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 2: not automatically walk out that door if their partner cheats. 582 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 2: There may be conversations, so then that's not a non negotiable. 583 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: A faithful partner might be a need, but it's not 584 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 2: a non negotiable. Again, your non negotiables are the things 585 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 2: that if X happens, then I am out the door, period, goodbye, 586 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 2: Moving on. 587 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 3: I love don that you mentioned the fact that this 588 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 3: is something we should be thinking about before getting into 589 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 3: a relationship, right, not once you're in a relationship and 590 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 3: they're like, all right, let me figure out. I mean, 591 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 3: if you do it, then better late than never, right, 592 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 3: But it's so important to I think this just goes 593 00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 3: back to the idea and we've talked about this on 594 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 3: the podcast, just knowing yourself, dating yourself, being in tune 595 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: with yourself prior to being in a relationship, so that 596 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: you are grounded in who you are, what you bring 597 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 3: to the table, what you're going to tolerate, what you're 598 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 3: not going to put up with, what your non negotiables are, 599 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 3: so that you're just very clear in that honeymoon phase 600 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 3: and like, oh my God, I'm someone love that isn't 601 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 3: cloud our judgment? Right, Yes, So we're gonna do a 602 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 3: quick recap. But first, lady, we said we have nine signs. Well, actually, 603 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 3: what we want you to do is go to our 604 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 3: Instagram at her Space podcast and just scroll down the 605 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 3: Instagram based on when this episode's drop and just look 606 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 3: for the red square. When you see the red square 607 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 3: on our Instagram, go ahead and drop your sign as 608 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 3: in not your zodiac sign. Go ahead and drop the 609 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 3: ninth sign. What would you add to this list that 610 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 3: we've already created for you. So we're gonna go ahead 611 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 3: and circle back. We have number one lack of mutual respect. 612 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 3: We have number two persistent negative patterns. Number three apologies 613 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: with no change behavior. Number four consistent mind games and 614 00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:30,800 Speaker 3: gas lighting. Number five, misaligned life goals and values, number six, 615 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 3: emotional or physical abuse, number seven, persistent unhappiness and unfulfillment, 616 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: number eight violating your non negotiables. And number nine that 617 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 3: is on you, ladies, So go connect with us on 618 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 3: Instagram at Herspace podcast and drop your answer on the 619 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: red square. Ay, now, dom, I guess it's time for 620 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 3: us to move to the after show. But lady, we 621 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,840 Speaker 3: do have a reflection question that Domini are going to 622 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 3: We have a couple questions that we're going to dive 623 00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 3: into in the after show. So if you went in 624 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 3: tune into the after show, you can visit Herspace podcast 625 00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 3: dot com, click on the Patreon tab and that will 626 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 3: take you over to the after show where you can 627 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 3: see us on video and get more exclusive content. 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