1 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Reveale. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:10,079 Speaker 2: Look at us now tempted. 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 3: Jesus? 4 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: Oh do you want about us doing what we wuck? 5 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: It's time to bang? Oh yeah, that Friday feeling back 6 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: with a bang and back with a bullet sneakier than 7 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 2: Prime Valentino. It's morning combat directly in your face, hoole 8 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: on Friday, November seventh of the twenty twenty fives. You 9 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 2: know what we do here? Set right, ready to go 10 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: to preview UFC warehouse and talk about all the things 11 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,959 Speaker 2: you're into gambling, John Jones, J Paul Hey, we'll get 12 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: into some other fun stuff too. BC with that BD. 13 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 2: Brian Campbell from Greater Hartford, Connecticut joining you directly from 14 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 2: my basement. Next to me is a DC plant and 15 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 2: native of India, but he prefers that you look at 16 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 2: him in an Armenian vein. It's Luke Thomas. Everybody, Yes, right, alright? 17 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: What's up? C? That is that a new hat? 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: No? No, I got this from Boston scally because they 19 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 2: like me like two years ago. But you know it's 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: a I like it. I like it fall thing. Thank you, 21 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 2: thank you very much. 22 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Now here's the question. You're saying, it's a fall thing? 23 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: Is it also I'm covering up a bad hair dye 24 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: job thing. 25 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 2: No, I actually had one of my better hair dye 26 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 2: jobs three days ago of all time. Like I was 27 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 2: really proud of it. I was like showing it off 28 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 2: around the house, you know what I mean, not like 29 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 2: anyone cared, they didn't. 30 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: But also, is that mayor you growing a Dakistani beard there? 31 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: So I tried, of course, like normal, I tried to 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: like trim down the beard like almost gangster style, and 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 2: of course I screwed up, so I had to shave 34 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 2: off the mustache. And now you know, I'm getting heckled 35 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: in my areas. But that's what we have to call you, brother, Yeah, yeah, brother, 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: you know, give me two to three days in d 37 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: Augustan and I'll run away, all right, Luke, But we 38 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 2: are going to have a great episode today no matter what. 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: In fact, and of course it's today's episode of Morning Combat, 40 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 2: brought to you by DraftKings. DraftKings, The Crown is yours, 41 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: all right, Please like subscribe, follow what we're doing here 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: on MK Nation and our extended YouTube channels. 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It's true, guys, new 66 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 4: prop quiz dropping after the show today, Danny Segura going 67 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 4: against Jose Young's It's a great back and forth battle. 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: You should tune into it. 69 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 2: The winner faces Bend the bane for the season two championship. 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: Winner yep faces for one hundred dollars, and then Winter 71 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: that will face BC. 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: These seasons seem like you know Top Chef, where they 73 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: cut like five seasons in a calendar year, where the seasonal. 74 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: With the pfl of trivia. All right, we have various brackets. 75 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: You don't really know who's winning what champion. 76 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you what you know we should do? 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: We should we should buy uh, we should make a belt. 78 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 4: Average Joe has suggested that a few times now. 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is I mean, you have a big grand 80 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: championship and have a'll be kind of sick. 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: Actually yeah, but then how do I I got to 82 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 4: mail it to a person each. 83 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Time, you know, just keeping telling me to go fuck themselves. 84 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: Hey, do we still have the that the old money 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 2: lion hammer that we gave We got them. 86 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: We got the mule near after that, after that photography 87 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: session where we felt abused and needed a counselor. 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 4: We might be able to get our hands on the hammer, 89 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: but I don't personally have it right now. 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, that's great to hear. Shout 91 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: out to Luke. Luke, I finished a painting, by the way, 92 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 2: first time, long time here. I've been working on the 93 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: signed off for nine months? 94 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: Are you ready? 95 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: All right? 96 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: I need an honest statement now hold on? 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait. How 98 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: long have you been working on it? 99 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: Nine months on and off, but the last few weeks 100 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: I've given a lot of time to it. The reviews 101 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: in my house are wife hates it, my artsy son 102 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: loves it. My non arty son set a fourth grader. 103 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: I could have done that. So we'll see what you think. 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: Okay, can you back up a little bit, Yes, honestly, 105 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: that might be one of my favorites you've ever done. 106 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: Oh really, really. 107 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like abstract art. I like it, and I 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: love Can I be honest, I love the color palette. Okay, 109 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. Two thumbs up. I really like this one. 110 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: Two thumbs up for me. 111 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 2: My wife says it's proof that I have inner turmoil. 112 00:05:54,200 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: It's definitely that. It's definitely that. However, I like it. 113 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you very much I know to get you 114 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: for Christmas. 115 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, exactly, send that to me. I need 116 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: something to wipe my ass with. 117 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: Uh, look before we dig deep into the warehouse and 118 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: get all bone themed up, anything you would like to 119 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: tell the audience any recent medical developments. 120 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: In your on that level. Although I dude, I I 121 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: so I have. There's different kinds of e bike specie, 122 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: and I've got a one that's like the tires are 123 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: not normal bike tires, they're thicker, the bike is heavier. 124 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: You can get different kinds and put engines everywhere, but 125 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 1: mine's a little bit of a heavier one, and so 126 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: I have to I can't leave it on the street. Obviously, 127 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: I have to put it in my house, which means 128 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: I have to go up not five flights of stairs, 129 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: but just five literal stairs, just like that way. And 130 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: normally it's no big deal. And I got it in, 131 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: but my daughter left the pedals down where her feet 132 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: go because I use that to take her to school. 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: And so as I'm taking it up and this thing's heavy, 134 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's like, you know, I like 135 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty pounds pushing it up. The thing 136 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: my knee slams into the metal pedal that she left. Dude, 137 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: I literally couldn't walk yesterday. It was so goddamn painful. However, 138 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: I do have good news. A. I can walk today. B. 139 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm a man of two internets BC. I have Verizon 140 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: and it's been a constant problem. I went hat in 141 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: hand back to Comcast Inxfinity. They show up yesterday reinstall 142 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: their things. So now that Exfinity is running to the 143 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: tower Long Island, Luke watched not all, but most of 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: my live chat yesterday. We don't think there was any 145 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: major tech issues. Quietly optimistic, this might be a great 146 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: episode in terms of no tech problems. 147 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: Okay, I love to hear that, Luke. All right, the 148 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: days of Luke Thomas's tech air issues are long long 149 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: behind us. 150 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not long behind me. They're just maybe not 151 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: like right on top of me. 152 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: How about I could go as far as saying Hasselhoff 153 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 2: could put his shirt back on and finish the Yeah, 154 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to kill you that day. Great moments. 155 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: Hey, why are we talking about John Jones? The chat 156 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk about it. I don't want to 157 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: talk about it. Why are we talking to re emerged. 158 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: With some shitty comments that have to be heard. They 159 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: have to be discussed, or we'll be quick on Jake 160 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: Paul because I know people don't want that, all right, 161 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: They're like, I don't want Remember when the Hot Chip 162 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: was like, hey THEO and Brendan, well it's for one 163 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: and THEO is like, I don't want that. Remember that? Okay, 164 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: if you know cats, cats understand it's just cats talking 165 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: to cats. Yeah, yeah, just to baseball that over here. 166 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Let's move into the show. Now, 167 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: let's go with topic number one. The warehouse is hot. 168 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: On Saturday, UFC Fight Night is back and in the 169 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: main event, Walter Waits, Gabriel bone Feme and Randy Brown. 170 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 2: And this road to UFC Fight Night is brought to 171 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: you by Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC. 172 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: Get unlimited data that won't slow you down. Now, for 173 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: the second straight week, a pair of first time headline 174 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: will grace the octagon in Saturday's Fight Night Maine inside 175 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: the Apex in Las Vegas as the number fourteen ranked welterweight, 176 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: Gabrielle Boonefee puts his five and one UFC mark on 177 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 2: the line versus un ranked thirty five year old veteran 178 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 2: Randy Brown, who oh, by the way, eight wins, two 179 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 2: losses since twenty twenty one. Luke, we know this is 180 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: a style contrast here. What is the most intriguing part 181 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: of this fight that really, you know, when you look 182 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 2: at the contrast between them, has the greatest chance of 183 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: deciding which one seventy pounder comes out on top on Saturday. 184 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, as we indicate it, these are not 185 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: guys you would typically identify as UFC headliners. They're not 186 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: bad fighters by any stretch. But you know this is 187 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: a okay, absent the controversy last week, this is a 188 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: similar kind of event. So the question about whether this 189 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: is a suitable main event and what this means is 190 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: I think an important one, but no need to rehash it. 191 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: I'll say this. I think if you look at the 192 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: numbers and you look at the tape a little bit 193 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: bonfeme it, he kind of has a reputation as maybe 194 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: striker first, and I think that's probably largely deserved. But 195 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things here that stand out to me. 196 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: Number One, in MMA, this sometimes means less than what 197 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: it does, and say, for example, boxing, but Randy Brown 198 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: has I think a six inch reach advantage, and he's 199 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: already kind of lanky and uses his length for the 200 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: most part pretty well. That stands out to me because 201 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: Bonfime is not one of these crouching strikers. He's kind 202 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: of up tall, and I don't know, I just feel 203 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: like that is going to be a potentially you know, 204 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: their jobs are both going to be important, but Randy 205 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: Brown's jab with the bond themes posture. I'm not saying 206 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: that Bonfime can't be competitive on the feet, but I 207 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: don't think that like if it's a twenty five minute 208 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: battle on the feet, winnable certainly, but maybe not the 209 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: best way to get the job done at a bare minimum. 210 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 1: More to the point, you see if you just look 211 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: at the takedowns, and that's really where I think this 212 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: might be one or loss, which is that Bonfeme averages 213 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: four point zero three takedowns per fifteen minutes, so he's 214 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: good for more than one around as a statistical average, 215 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: and the takedown defense of Randy Brown seventy three percent. 216 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: But how much does he go for the takedown point 217 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 1: seventy nine per fifteen minutes, like barely at all. The 218 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make here is it just looks 219 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: to me like if you look at Bonfime for example, 220 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, he's sort of known as a guy who's 221 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: got a great guillotine. After he takes people down, he 222 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: lets them roll and then like for example against Trevin 223 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: Giles and then locks up the guillotine, or you know, 224 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: he'll try and rerack something like he did against Chaos 225 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Williams so that he gets the dars choke off of 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: a scramble from a back take. You know, he's very 227 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: very good about that kind of a thing. He goes 228 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: with the takedown aggressively. And in twenty twenty four, Brown 229 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: lost to Elizu Zelesqui do Santos after giving up and 230 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: surrendering four takedowns in fifteen minutes. It just seems to MEBC, 231 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: could you get a striking battle? Of course, and I 232 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: think large parts of this fight, for the extent that 233 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: it goes long, will be contested on the feet. But 234 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: if Bonfime has a way to win, and it's not 235 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: letting Brown have that six inch advantage on an already 236 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 1: lanky frame, and it's making him work for it. In 237 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: grappling transition, or wrestling contexts. 238 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you on that one. Look, 239 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: if we take this main event and last week's Fight 240 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 2: Night main event, even though of the four fighters, I 241 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: guess you could argue that maybe Steve Garcia at the 242 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: moment has sort of the highest ceiling and is pointing 243 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: more aggressively in the right direction. But do you feel 244 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 2: like this Brown Bomfime fight could be better than last 245 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: week's main event? 246 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: Well, in part because there are questions, you know, at 247 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: this point, fairly or otherwise, surrounding the effort that Onama 248 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: gave that it's hard to say that this could be 249 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: Oh odd, Yes, this is the answer. Yes, I do 250 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: think this one stands to be competitive. I do think 251 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: it is well matched. Again, the question about whether it 252 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: should be a main event is sort of lingering over 253 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: the whole thing. But just as a fight itself, this 254 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: one feels like it should go longer, and also something 255 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: to be said for this you know, Brown and a Bonfime, 256 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: especially in Brown's case, you know he's been around here 257 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: a good long while. This is a guy that's kind 258 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: of seen good opponents and seen some bad ones and 259 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: seen someones in all different contexts. I would suspect I'd 260 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: be surprised. I'll say this, I'd be very surprised if 261 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: this one ended exactly the way that last week's ended, 262 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: or in a similar kind of time frame. The one 263 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: exception BC is again Bonfime is very good sometimes about 264 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: rocking people or taking them down, letting them scramble a 265 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: little bit, only so he can set up a submission. 266 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: He stopped guys in the first round in the UFC 267 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: doing exactly that, So I do think it'll be different, 268 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: but MMA's crazy. Maybe it won't be so different. 269 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 4: After all. 270 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: Let's look at the odds for this one. DraftKings has 271 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 2: gabriel Bomfime, who technically is riding a three fight win 272 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: streak as a minus one seventy betting favorite rude boy 273 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: Randy Brown at age thirty five plus one forty two, 274 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 2: so a lot of respect in his direction. But I 275 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: want to ask you whether it's respect for Brandon Brown 276 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: or a little bit of fear for Gabrielle Bonefeme, who 277 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: came on the scene like his brother Ishmael, who will 278 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 2: also be fighting on this car to building with two Beldings, 279 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 2: one of whom is Balding Luke. Yeah, let's let's go 280 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: h But Luke, considering bone theme, Gabrielle is fresh off 281 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: a split decision win against Steven Thompson that not a 282 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 2: lot of people thought he deserved the win, and he's 283 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: only two years removed from his loan defeat, a TKO 284 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: loss via knees and punches. Is it fair to say that, 285 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: while we know he can go in there and submit 286 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: the lights off against B level fighters, that there's still 287 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: some trepidation about whether, despite his number fourteen ranking, he's 288 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 2: on a true path to elite contention here. 289 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: Yes, that's a totally reasonable question and absolutely fair. You're 290 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: right about, at a bare minimum, how the win over 291 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: wonder Boy was perceived. And I think you'll remember these 292 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: guys coming out of contentiaries, the hype on them was high, right, 293 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: because Hey, we're just living in a world where we've 294 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: seen a lot of Brazilian brother tandems do pretty well. Folks. 295 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: Forget before Showgun, there was Ninja Hua, but you know 296 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: Showgun in Ninja were a great tandem. You've seen the 297 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: Diaz but it's not Brazilian, but it's you know, brother tandem, 298 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Matt and Mark Hughes brother tandem. And then obviously the 299 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: Patricio or as I say, the pit Bull brothers. 300 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 2: Right, so there's Amelia Ankos, come on. 301 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, there's a bunch of brother Tans. But 302 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the Brazilian side, we're just sort of 303 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: more recently living through some And this is the thing too, 304 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, you go through some of the early wins, 305 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: they're just outright just smashing these people, and what you 306 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: can get there is something where you don't know which 307 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: way it's gonna go. Right, So if you see someone 308 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: that's got like two three wins first second round stoppages 309 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: in the UFC, obviously they're talented. I mean that's that's 310 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: a given. But are they gonna go real far or 311 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: are they just the kind of guy that can do 312 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: that sort of thing to that class of opponent but 313 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: can't really graduate to the you know, next subsequent let 314 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: or you know, two or three levels after that, they 315 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: kind to peter out very quickly. That can be kind 316 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: of fool's gold. And I think some people might be 317 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: thinking around Gabriel Bonfien here, Hey wait a second. It 318 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: was great when he was doing that kind of thing 319 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: to that class of opponent, but to the point you 320 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: raised BC hasn't exactly been smooth as he's gone up 321 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: the ladder, and the opponents have gotten a little bit 322 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: more difficult. Brown is a good opponent, a flawed one, 323 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: but certainly an experienced one as well. So this is 324 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: this is what I mean. This is a well matched fight. 325 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: It's not really a deserving main event, but it's a 326 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: well matched fight. You get kind of that answer there, 327 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: But that's really one of the lingering questions around. I 328 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: would say both Bondfieme Brothers, but probably a little bit 329 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: more Gabrielle at this point about exactly how far is 330 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: he gonna go look good early? Can he maintain that 331 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: kind of pace on the pack. That's where some of 332 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: the questions start to arise. 333 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 2: Indeed, we do have to pause this conversation for some 334 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 2: form of odd breaking news from Long Island. Luke related 335 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: to our talk about the hammer. Luke, Nocito, what do 336 00:16:58,680 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: you got for us? 337 00:16:59,240 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: All right? 338 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: So the group chat was blowing up when we were 339 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 4: talking about the Hammer of the month. Menietzsche was at 340 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 4: the bomb shelter last week and he took this photo. Okay, okay, 341 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,479 Speaker 4: that's getting right there on a shelf. 342 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: Hey, dear, Malta. That's no longer yours, f money Lion, 343 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: that's ours. 344 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, so we can away to get the hell Yes, 345 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: I bring that home. 346 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: We got bring bring it back to where it belongs. 347 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 2: Luke got all Pedro Serrano bring that ship to me? Yes, yes, 348 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 2: all right, all right back to this uh here fight card. Hey, 349 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 2: we got some sound here from the rude boy himself, 350 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: Randy Brown, representing Jamaica and his belief that whoever wins 351 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 2: on Saturday, the loser will be unconscious. 352 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: I love it. 353 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 3: I love it. 354 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,719 Speaker 6: I think he's a tough guy. He's a great fighter, 355 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. I got a lot of 356 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 6: respect for his skill set. Aggressive, fast, young, strong, explosive guy, athletic. 357 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 6: I think he has on the ground, good on the feet. 358 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 6: Somebody's going to sleep, somebody's getting finished. It's one of 359 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 6: those ones where, you know, I also don't think that 360 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 6: this fight goes a distance. But you know, I'll be 361 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 6: prepared for a hard fifteen or twenty five minutes, right. 362 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 6: But if it doesn't, which I don't think it will, 363 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 6: you know, I'll be prepared for that too. But somebody's 364 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 6: going to sleep. 365 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: Look, speaking of going to sleep, let's do some MMA 366 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: math here on a common opponent. How much does the 367 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 2: fact that Randy Brown is fresh off of an April 368 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: win by KO over one Nicholas Dalby, who happens to 369 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 2: be the only fighter to defeat Gabriel bone Fime and 370 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 2: he did that by TKO and bone Theme's only pro 371 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: and UFC defeat. How much does that common opponent ness 372 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 2: factor into this matchup? In your eyes, the thing. 373 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 1: Is that Dolby is a bit of a go getter. 374 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: You know, he's got a little bit of that to 375 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: his own detriment. Sometimes he's got a little bit of 376 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: that Steve Garcia and him where he's just castantly knocking 377 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: on the door. And again it's a strategy where like 378 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: why would a fighter do that where they're constantly just 379 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: kind of just trying stuff and you know, staying active 380 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: with at least touching their opponent. Well, on the good side, 381 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: you just keep knocking. It's just a numbers game. Eventually 382 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: there's going to be an opening and you can take 383 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: advantage of it. And I think, you know, some of 384 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: what you saw in that fight reflects that reality. On 385 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: the other hand, what's one of the challenges if you 386 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: go up against the skilled operator, and you keep knocking 387 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: like that, they're going to pick up on it and 388 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna tear you to pieces. So what 389 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself is is that how Randy 390 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: Brown is going to fight? I don't think so. Be see. 391 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: Randy Brown, to me fights a little bit more methodically. 392 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: He fights a little bit more. I think he tries to. 393 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: I think Randy Brown fashions himself a little bit more 394 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: of a slickster, and Dalby fashions himself more as like 395 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: a jackhammer constantly, you know, just trying to make the fight, 396 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: to break with pace, to break with with pressure. Brown's 397 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: not exactly that kind of a fighter. Now be seen 398 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: on the other the flip side, Brown is also I 399 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: think a pretty accurate striker generally speaking, pretty good about 400 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: finding the target, has a lot of different kinds of weapons. 401 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: But I don't want to lose sight of the fact 402 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: that the common opponents sometimes can be quite significant. I 403 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: just feel like Brown fights in a way that works 404 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: well against Dolby. Bonfime does not. But that doesn't mean 405 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: that Brown the way he fights is like a uniquely 406 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: bad matchup for Bondfeme. I guess time will tell, but 407 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 1: I have some skepticism about the math there all right. 408 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of bomb themed setbacks, whether it be the 409 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: TKO loss to Nicholas Dlby or the sketchy ish win 410 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: or disputed win if you will over Steven Thompson, in 411 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: which it did show us where bomb themes is at 412 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: and at least to add to those questions we talked about. 413 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,719 Speaker 2: Here is a translated recap of Gabriel Bonefeme's interviews this 414 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 2: week talking about what he learned from those. 415 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 5: Fights with Phillies Compostent Dot. 416 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 3: I'm really happy to be here. I feeling very great 417 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: for great fit. 418 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 7: God have been giving me this opportunity to not only 419 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 7: fight in the UFC, but in the UFC main events. 420 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 5: So it's a dream come true. 421 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 7: It is exactly what I wanted to fight two three 422 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 7: fights a year, So I'm getting three fights this year 423 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 7: and hopefully next year I can do the same thing. 424 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 3: If I would. Albi was it was a huge milestone 425 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: of change for me. 426 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 7: Now I grew more and so I need to adapt 427 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 7: and need to grow, and I'm more more confident I can. 428 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 3: Fight three five round fights. 429 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 7: I just I needed that loss to grow and it 430 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 7: really developed my full potential. 431 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: So that did a lot for me. 432 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 5: I assume I. 433 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 7: Love to fight diverse fighters for wrestlers and for strikers. 434 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 7: This makes me grow and involved and adapt so I 435 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 7: can be ready to one day be the champion of 436 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 7: the division. 437 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 5: A little shifts from me. 438 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 7: Stephen Thompson is all the way around the guy on 439 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 7: the most experienced guy in the division. So of course 440 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 7: after watching analyzim fight with him, I grew so much. 441 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 7: It was so it was I grew more from from 442 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 7: the fight than my losses. So I learned more from 443 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 7: fighting stick Compson and winning without the experience, then I 444 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 7: learned from my losses. 445 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 5: Did you key? I spity incidentally. 446 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 7: Mostly mean to be very keen about the fight, like 447 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 7: it's a guy that could not blink. I had to 448 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 7: stay focused and dialed in the entire time. I had 449 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 7: to defend every if I blinked kick, so I defended 450 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 7: kicks and be aware, very weary. He's got good takedown defense. 451 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 7: So this overall mindset and me to be dial in 452 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 7: the fight. That was the biggest world I had from 453 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 7: fighting Stephen Thompson. 454 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: I have been fighting guys. They are long, very long, 455 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 3: with long range of good strikers. 456 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 7: So it's gonna adapt and fall right into my game, 457 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 7: and I think it's going to be an amazing performance 458 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 7: of me on Saturday. 459 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 3: I really believe I'll knock him out. 460 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 7: I'm going to press him with with with pressure, forward 461 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 7: and volume, and I think eventually I'm gonna lay my 462 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 7: punch of knock him out. 463 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: Let's check in with our bedding. 464 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: By the way, who was translating there? Uh, Derek Koenig, No, 465 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: that was Jorge ger Zell. All right, Franklin's longtime partner, 466 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 1: slash coach, training partner, all that stuff. Yeah, you don't 467 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: mean life partner. No, no, no, I don't mean life part 468 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: I mean like Jim partner. 469 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 2: I mean I'd be down with that if that, you 470 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: know whatever. Let's bring in our own betting expert who 471 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: is on the same disccog as James Krause and Isaac 472 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: Dulgary and it's Long Island, Luke Nosita of the main 473 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: card minute you saw the odds here, we know the 474 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: question surrounding bom Fime Brown's thirty five. He is on 475 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: a nice little run there though, eight and two in 476 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: his last ten. How you betting this main event eight 477 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: and two in. 478 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 4: His last ten and one of those losses was that 479 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 4: Brian Battle loss, which, like, let's be real, he probably 480 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: won that fight, So we'll call it nine to one 481 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 4: lone loss to the champ. 482 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 3: Not bad at all. 483 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 4: I'm not personally taking Randy Brown, but I'm backing Randy 484 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 4: Brown in this fight for sure. Like, I feel like 485 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: he's gonna make it dirty, He's gonna get through the 486 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 4: first couple of rounds, make it go late. I don't 487 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 4: know how Bomme's gonna look once this goes rounds four 488 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 4: and five. So I feel like I like Randy personally. 489 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 4: I took the over one and a half in a parlay, 490 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 4: so I'm hoping it goes at least a little long. 491 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: But you know, I'm back in Randy. I'll say Randy 492 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: by decision. That's that's my pick. 493 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: There, LT Are you leaning either way here? As we 494 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: look at this main event, I mean, look for storylines. 495 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: I kind of want bone theme to be real, you 496 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Like he's he's flashy, he's exciting, 497 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 2: But do I have fear that he'll guess out in 498 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 2: the championship rounds trying too hard to get a sub 499 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe bro U, I'll go. 500 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: I'll go, bonfine. I mean, I don't know, you know, 501 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: it's this is a close one. I yeah, yeah, I'll 502 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: say bonfin, I guess, but would be cool of Randy Winsman. 503 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Luc, let's talk quickly about that co main event. 504 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: Riding a four fight win streak in fresh Off by 505 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 2: the Way at UFC three nineteen there of winning the 506 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: Ultimate Fighter Season thirty three championship. We haven't improved Joseph Morales, 507 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: who is in his second stint as a UFC fighter 508 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: as he takes on thirty five year old veteran in 509 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 2: the recently retired Matt Schnell, who did return and get 510 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: a victory to snap a three fight losing skid. Are 511 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 2: you all on Joseph Morales's potential here at Flyway? 512 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 5: Uh? 513 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: You know what? To your point, he's making a second 514 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: crack at it. I kind of feel like there's very 515 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: few guys who when they make second cracks, ever really 516 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: take it that far. They it tends to be, it 517 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: tends to be that they come back improved, but they 518 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: rarely come back revolutionized. 519 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brandon Moreno is a is a special case. 520 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: You would say, right, He's the exception that sort of 521 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: proves the rule, and he got in there so early 522 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: and that to that point, Morales I think is only 523 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: like thirty one, So you know, I definite feel like 524 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: you're getting a better version this time, like a legitimately 525 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: better version this time around. And Matchdell's a guy who's 526 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,440 Speaker 1: kind of been so I think Machelle's very talented, but 527 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: he's been a little bit hittable. He's been in some 528 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: wars and kind of the other part is he was 529 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: out of the fight game and then back in the 530 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: fight game, and I'm not questioning his level of professionalism, 531 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: but I just don't know how much his heart is truly, truly, 532 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,920 Speaker 1: truly in it as a competitor anymore at the stage 533 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: of the game. So I don't know. I kind of 534 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: like Morales is upside in this one. 535 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, Morales more than a four to one fase in 536 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 2: this flyweight clash. A lot of people are talking about 537 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 2: the action potential here as forty one year old Muslim 538 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 2: Solikoff enters as a slight dog plus one twenty four 539 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: against the minus one forty eight euros Metitch Luke, are 540 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 2: you feeling this fight or should we move on? 541 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: This fight might be one of the two well, I 542 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: don't know two best, but this one might be one 543 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: of the better ones on the freaking cardio. Muslim Salakov 544 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: is forty one years old and he's coming off of 545 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: that Carlos leal right hook win which before that he 546 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: had the Keenan Song spinning wheelkick both first round with KOs. Dude, 547 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: he still got a little razzle dazzle in that game 548 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: in euros Metic. I like a lot, but he is 549 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: nothing if not hittable. I kind of like this one. 550 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: I think this one has like a strong potential to 551 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: be fun and make the highlight reel. Put it that. 552 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: If I had to pinpoint BC know which one stands 553 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: likely to get fut of the night or some kind 554 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: of performance bonus, I would circle that one. 555 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 2: Real quick, long island, Luke, you're getting plus money on 556 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: a on a Solikoff who's on a run here? You 557 00:26:57,920 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: like that? 558 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 4: I do like that. And not only that, he was 559 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 4: he had Dulgarian type movement. 560 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: Now not really, but. 561 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: He was like plus one careful he was plus one 562 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: eighty like three days ago. To be clear, guys, this 563 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 4: is totally normal for a fight to move that drastically 564 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: on fight week, not the day of the fight, but yeah, 565 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 4: he moved like from plus one's eighty ish to plus 566 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 4: one twenty four now, so a lot of money's been 567 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 4: coming in on him as the week's been going on. 568 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 4: I like him here. I think Earl's metics is Chiney 569 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 4: as fuck. All fourteen of his fights have never gone 570 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 4: the distance though Medich, so that one's probably going to 571 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 4: be a banger in either direction. 572 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 2: All right, banger, I just gotta just met her, Luke. 573 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 2: Let's go to the older Bonefime brother, Ishmael here at 574 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 2: lightweight a minus one ninety eight favorite against Chris Padia, 575 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: despite the fact that Ishmael has been finished in two 576 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: of his last three fights, including a submission loss to 577 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: Ben La Saint Denis the God of war are I'm 578 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: sure you're less confident on this bone Theme's upside than 579 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 2: his bro or maybe I don't want to put words 580 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: in your mouth or any parts of my body, to 581 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 2: be fair, how do you see this one here? 582 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah? The issue with this one is Ishmael Bonfime has 583 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: fought and defeated better guys. But because he's fought better guys, 584 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: he's also got a couple of l's on there and 585 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: the and you know, but like, who are the guys 586 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: he's LAWT students. Sadakov right would be one of them 587 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: who I think is a very very good fighter. And 588 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: then prior to that, you know, as you indicated Ben 589 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: Wall Saint denis so like he's not those are you know, 590 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: those are tough fights, those are tough challenges. I think 591 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: it puts a ceiling on what you could imagine he 592 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: would be. The problem is Chris Padilla pretty good thirty 593 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: years of age, but his wins are are Ji Herbert, 594 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: which is a good one, but it was a split, 595 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: then Wrong Zoo and then James yan Top and it's like, 596 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what that means, you know what 597 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like he's a little bubble ish 598 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: in terms of being on the UFC roster despite having 599 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: a three fight winning streak in the octagon. So this 600 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 1: is to me, I would say, I don't know how 601 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: long on Luke feels I might slight lean bond theme, 602 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: but you know, if you're getting put out in fights, 603 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: even against good guys, that also carries risks even into 604 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: lesser opponents as well. 605 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like Hey, Ishmael, are you Nate Diaz in 606 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: this brother combo? Or are you Lance Evans? Show us? 607 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 2: Let us know right call me Ishmael. 608 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 609 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: Indeed, indeed right there, Ah, Luke, The fight I have 610 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: circled here is a bantamweight banger, Ricky Simone brings a 611 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: minus one to seventy five slight betting favorite tag with 612 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,240 Speaker 2: him against a red hot thirty eight year old Hyoni 613 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: Barcelos who is riding a three fight win streak which 614 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: includes an upset of Peyton Talbot on his initial rise 615 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: and the decision win last time out against Cody Garbrandt. 616 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Here's the biggest question, Luke. Will there be action? Yeah, 617 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: we know that, but is this run for Barcellos sustainable 618 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 2: against a refurbished Ricky Simone who seems to have put 619 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: a losing streak behind him. 620 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: You know what, I think the buck might stop here. 621 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: I think what Barcelos has done has been tremendous. And 622 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: Ricky Simone, I mean, it's hard to believe he's got 623 00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: to win over Morob but you know or whatever, it 624 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: was a being. But the reality is, I just feel 625 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: like Barcellos can take advantage over guys who aren't good 626 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: at chain wrestling or you know, tend to make some 627 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: more obvious tactical blunders. Ricky Simone is aggressive enough where 628 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: some of that might get him in trouble BC, but 629 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: he can scramble his ass off, and he's quick. He's 630 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 1: at the athletic. I feel like Barcellos's game is going 631 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: to come apart against someone like that. Barcellos, by the way, 632 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: say Simone has fought very good competition, you know, come 633 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: up short a few times obviously, but has fought some 634 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: really good competition. I know, I think the odds are 635 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: pretty close. I like Simone in this one. And I'll 636 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: say this though, you see if Barcellos wins this one 637 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: of all the ones to I mean, looking back, it's 638 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: like Oha, he beat like Peyton Talbot or something. It's like, well, okay, 639 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: that's a good win on name value. But Talbot was 640 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: a little bit overwhelmed. Yeah, Simone, for him to be 641 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: overwhelmed would mean something more. So curious to see how 642 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: this one goes. But I do feel like this is 643 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of where things might fall apart for the forty 644 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: year old. 645 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 2: You would say this is where the rubber hits the road. 646 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: That's a classic Luke Thomas. Yeah, yes, yeah, Luke, I'm 647 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 2: gonna you know, you can have your favorites in the second. 648 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna dig down the card and ask you this. 649 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: There was a time when Myra Buono Sofa was kind 650 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 2: of looked like at the future as the future of 651 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 2: this dead women's bandonweight division. Right now, though she's on 652 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: a four fight windless streak, which includes a no contest, 653 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: it includes three straight defeats, including that really poor performance 654 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: when she gassed out against Rocky Pennington for the vacant title. 655 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: What the hell happened here? As she promises a finish 656 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: of Jacqueline Cavalcanti here in her return, it's like she's 657 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 2: fallen off faster than Barrao. 658 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know two of Yeah, I mean, 659 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: Raquel Pennington was a champ or you know, reached champ status, 660 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: So losing to her is not the end of the world. 661 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was a shitty fight, and she had 662 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: a shitty performance. 663 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: I had a terrible, terrible performance. And then Macy chas 664 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: On and then Jasmine. It's not like she's losing the scrubs. 665 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 2: She has not opened up that cut on her face 666 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: where you could see her soul through it. 667 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, she's not losing the scrubs, but I agree 668 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: she's seemingly lost to step. She's thirty four. Now, you know, 669 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: some people age earlier than others, even you know, whatever 670 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: the numerical age ends up being, is the weight cutting 671 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: getting to her? Did she peek and people figured it out? 672 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: Does she train not as hard as she once did? 673 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, but I agree with you. It's been 674 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: a little bit lackluster in certain ways, and I felt 675 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: like there was a little bit more competitive fire early 676 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: in the run. So good opportunity for Cavalcanti here, I'll 677 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: say as much. 678 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: One more one. I want to circle and get your 679 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: thoughts on fans of red hats and gold le mat 680 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 2: and the Oval Office. Unite heavyweight and former San Francisco 681 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: forty nine ers cup of Coffee drinker Josh hoke It, 682 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 2: fresh off the Dana White Contender series, will be making 683 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 2: his official UFC debut against one Max Kmenez. If you 684 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 2: want to know who's this ho kit guy, He's the 685 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 2: guy that delivers crazy post fight interviews. Here's one of 686 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 2: his classics. 687 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 8: Or Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and Barack Obama. 688 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: It is disgraceful. 689 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm here to bring justice to. 690 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: The heavyweight division. 691 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 8: And I'm gonna wipe you guys. 692 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 2: Out one by one. 693 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 8: Mark my words and PS. Michelle Obama is a man. 694 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right? 695 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: You can tell he reads books. 696 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 3: Will you be. 697 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: Cheering for him to get KOed more aggressively than you did? 698 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: Greg Hardy? Or Am I going too far here? 699 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: No? I mean I don't care one way or the other. 700 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: His opponent, Matt I don't know how you pronounced the 701 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: Portuguese version of this Max gumenis Jiminie. I'm not sure, 702 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: damn tho. Okay, yeah, you know, he seems like he's 703 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: got some big power, but might be overwhelmed. Hook It wrestled, 704 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: I believe wrestled at Virginia Tech, so you know that's 705 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: a good program's division one. He's got some skills. I mean, 706 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: not on the microphone and certainly you know, not in 707 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: place much else, but he can wrestle, he can fight. 708 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if you lost here. 709 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 4: You know. 710 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, we'll see if he's the future of 711 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 2: this weight class. Luke, what else are you? Yeah? It 712 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 2: is wide open here are there? Is there anything else 713 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 2: on this card? Including Tscha Pennington's still at it? What 714 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 2: are you into on this card? 715 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Tischa Pennington's kind of an interesting one here, bc uh. 716 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: We've talked about most of the ones that I care about. 717 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: I think Marco Tuleyo versus Christian Leroy Duncan that could 718 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: be a fun little scrap depending on how it goes. 719 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: Tisa Pennington, Denise Gomez, It's okay. It's a decent one. 720 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: Probably the only other one I would point to you 721 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: long on Luke, correct me if I'm wrong. Are you 722 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,800 Speaker 1: into the Miles Johns, Daniel Marcos fight, Daniel Marcos seventeen 723 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: and one kind of an interesting guy on the rise? 724 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Daniel Marcos is good. Did you guys 725 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 4: mention Christian Leroy Duncan, Marco. 726 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: Tulio, Yeah, yeah, I just said it literally. 727 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 4: Sorry, I was going through shit. I was going through shit. 728 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 4: I did just message you that Josh Hockett went to 729 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 4: Fresno State, not. 730 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: Fresno States, because why did I say Virginia Tech? 731 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 4: Hey, I was looking up shit, I was doing it. 732 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: You were thinking of that weird thing on the side 733 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: of Frank Biemer's faceless. I know you were, you know, 734 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, uh dude. 735 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: To be honest, this card is a lot better than 736 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 4: last weekend's card, but that's still not saying much. There's 737 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 4: really you know, it's slim pickens here exactly. 738 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: So let me guess, let me guess. Hold on real quickly, 739 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: how many hours on Saturday are you going to tell 740 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,360 Speaker 1: your girlfriend to pound sand? 741 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: She'll be working when I'm live for the full card, 742 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 4: Join me four pm Eastern time, May guard minute, baby, 743 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 4: let's go. 744 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 2: Ooh by four to twelve, he'll be yea, oh, sorry, 745 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 2: I man four to twenty. Yeah, there you go, right 746 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 2: right right, he'll wait, he'll wait. 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Dana White broke the 778 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 2: silence on the Isaac Dulgarian UFC betting scandal when he 779 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: joined TMC Sports earlier this week. He also joined Jim 780 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 2: Romes radio show yesterday to continue some of those same thoughts, revealing, 781 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: of course, that he interrogated Isaac Dulgarian during the day 782 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: before that fight card and then immediately called the FBI 783 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 2: after the first round finish went the way it did, 784 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: exactly the way that the line moved. Let's throw first 785 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 2: to a clip, then we'll get LT's reaction. Here's Dana 786 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: White talking about the timeline of what went down in 787 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 2: last Saturday's fight night scandal. 788 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 9: Probably about one o'clock that day. We're with a company 789 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 9: called IC three sixty and they are the best bet 790 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 9: monitoring company in the business, and they reached out to 791 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 9: us and they told us that there was some unusual 792 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 9: action going on with that fight. Do we know anything? 793 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 2: You know? 794 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 9: We didn't. So what we did was we called the 795 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 9: fighter and his lawyer and said, what's going on. There's 796 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 9: some weird action going on in your bet. We're betting 797 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,760 Speaker 9: action going on in your fight? Are you are you injured? 798 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 9: Do you owe anybody money? Has anybody approached you to 799 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:53,319 Speaker 9: you know? And the kid said no, absolutely not, I'm 800 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 9: gonna kill this guy. And you know, so we said, Okay, 801 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 9: the fight plays out and uh first round finish by 802 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 9: rear naked choke. Literally the first thing we did was 803 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 9: called the FBI. 804 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 2: Dana would tell Jim Rome yesterday that the FBI is 805 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 2: doing an investigation, not the UFC moving forward. So, Luke, 806 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 2: in light of what we heard from Dana, in light 807 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 2: of the reporting that continues to go on around this story, 808 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: whether you believe what we're hearing from Harry Mack on 809 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: Twitter or what Ariel Hawane has been breaking down, do 810 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: you feel like this is an isolated incident that the 811 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 2: UFC will be able to put behind them with FBI 812 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 2: control or is this just the tip of the iceberg 813 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 2: for basically what you would guess to be the UFC's 814 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: worst nightmare at the moment in terms of a fight 815 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: fixing scandal. 816 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: I would say that it's a good idea for anyone 817 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: out there to very much trust the reporting of Aeriel Hawane. 818 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: You know this, people are will have various opinions about 819 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: his show or him or whatever, putting that all to 820 00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: the side. If I've worked with the guy and I 821 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: watched his methods, and I'm telling you, if he's reporting it, 822 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,760 Speaker 1: it's true. The guy has been involved in the sport 823 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: for twenty years. I don't think I've ever seen him 824 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: have to retract the story, not once. And it's just 825 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: his record on this is as basically as good as 826 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: it gets. So whatever he is saying is absolutely worth 827 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: taking seriously. I know, obviously there's journalist Harry mackout there 828 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: who's doing a lot of interesting reporting as well. I mean, 829 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,360 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that he's unreliable because I 830 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: don't know that that's true. I know that he initially 831 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: had said, you know X or factory X was rated 832 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,439 Speaker 1: and then kind of said, well, it wasn't a raid, 833 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: So I don't really know what to make of some 834 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: of that reporting, I think, is what I would say. 835 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see, you know, what else is out there. 836 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:46,799 Speaker 1: If anyone has a tip, by the way, you can 837 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: email me Luke Thomas news at gmail dot com. But 838 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: just the tip, just yeah, just the just the tip. 839 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: You know, that's the only kind of thing I'm interested in. 840 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: But the reality is, we see if what Ariel was 841 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: saying is true, and I I would very much accept it, 842 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 1: it has to be a lot more. I mean, we 843 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: had fighters coming out and saying and then they've tried 844 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: to walk it back and say, oh, no, I was joking, 845 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: but they had kind of indicated people had approached them 846 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 1: to throw it. I had people reach out to me privately, 847 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: fighters reach out to me privately, be like, yeah, I 848 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: definitely had people offer to me, not just in UFC, 849 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: by the way, but in other places too. I mean, 850 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: by the way, no one's talking about this PC, but like, 851 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,360 Speaker 1: do we think that this is not happening in PFL, 852 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, no one's paying attention, 853 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: But why would they be exempt from any of the 854 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: same kinds of pressures. But getting back to the question, 855 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: it is hard to know exactly how often it's happening 856 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: happening excuse me, but it's happening enough where it just 857 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: seems like it's an almost sort of semi normal ish 858 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: thing that's happening to fighters to at least be propositioned 859 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: for these offers, and that's enough of a problem where 860 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: it seems like I don't know what's going to happen 861 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 1: to Dulgarian, but I would be very very surprised if 862 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: it stops at him. Seems to me like the problem is, 863 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess much more pervasive, and the FBI really 864 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,359 Speaker 1: needs to do something about it to restore confidence in 865 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: product integrity. 866 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,840 Speaker 2: Right because the timing is poor considering the NBA betting 867 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 2: scandal that's breaking out right now involving Damon Jones, Terry Roseier, 868 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups, and I think you mentioned a very key 869 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: part of this. We had a group of fighters initially 870 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,080 Speaker 2: after this Dulgarian scandal started, including Vanessa Demopolist, what was it, 871 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: Vince Morales, who else, Luke land Landovada. 872 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: Pele may have been joking. He may have been joking, but. 873 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 2: They all came out and said, yeah, it happened to me. 874 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,239 Speaker 2: I've been solicited before, and then they all kind of 875 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 2: out of nowhere aggressively retracted it, saying it was a joke. 876 00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: Here's Dana White in that same TMZ interview with a 877 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,840 Speaker 2: quick reaction to exactly that, you know. 878 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 9: You're seeing things out on the internet where like fighters 879 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 9: are coming out and going, oh, I was approached. I 880 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 9: was approached. Really, why didn't you tell us that? Or 881 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,800 Speaker 9: more portly, why didn't you tell law enforcement that you 882 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 9: are approached? Now now you're saying that you were approached. 883 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 9: It's like if somebody comes up and says, hey, I 884 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 9: want you to rob a bank. I'm going to rob banks. 885 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,839 Speaker 9: Want to rob a bank with me? Uh, and you don't, 886 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 9: but you're not gonna You're not gonna tell law enforcement. 887 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,320 Speaker 9: They're gonna be approached now by the FBI. 888 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 2: That's fucking illegal. Luke Thomas, what really happened here with 889 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,759 Speaker 2: this whole I would know I was just joking. 890 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: Thing, Well, I don't I Landovernada did seem like there 891 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,640 Speaker 1: was a chance he was joking. I'd like to give 892 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt. I've I've known him 893 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: to be a straight shooter for most of my time 894 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 1: interacting with him, So maybe he was. But you know, 895 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 1: the other ones have said that. I again, I had 896 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 1: a fighter reach out to me and tell me that 897 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: it happened to them. You know, So these are anecdotal, 898 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: It's not You cannot survey the landscape with this kind 899 00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: of thing, and that generally is going to make obviously 900 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: what we're saying to be very careful about what the 901 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: reality is here. But you know, Dan is asking like, 902 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: why wouldn't the fighters, Why wouldn't the fighters speak to him? Well, 903 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean I would have. I have a couple of 904 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: theories about that. The first one is on a basic 905 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: level b C. Like there's just a general culture of 906 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,480 Speaker 1: secrecy in the sport. A lot of things like what 907 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: happens in the gym stays in the gym, kind of 908 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: like they say it's about sparring, but it's a lot 909 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: about a lot of things, Like fighters might talk amongst themselves, 910 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: but in terms of like building a bridge to media 911 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: or in outside parties, a lot of that stuff just 912 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,560 Speaker 1: sort of stays closely contained too. Again, I don't know 913 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 1: how how this Again it's not every fighter, but it 914 00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: seems like a certain classifighter gets affected by this, they 915 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: get preyed upon essentially, you know, I don't I don't 916 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: know how pervasive it is, but I'm just sort of 917 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: pointing out why would they look why would they look 918 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: at the UFC as like the answer to their problems? 919 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: It seems like with the UFC views is that like, hey, 920 00:44:56,520 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 1: we're going to iron out your uniform policy and that'll 921 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: make you know, getting sponsors, you know, have to chase 922 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: sponsors down. We'll take care of that for you. We're 923 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: gonna give you some exit insurance. We'll take care of 924 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: that for you. We're gonna give you a PI, We'll 925 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: take care of that for you. And I think that 926 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: they kind of see that as like, hey, we we 927 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: we really have your best interest in mind. We can 928 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: take care of those things. But I think if you 929 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: talk to fighters privately, they don't necessarily not that like 930 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: the UFC doesn't do anything for them, but they don't 931 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: necessarily like look at them as like, oh, they they 932 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,440 Speaker 1: are the people I would go to to really confide 933 00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: in something very serious. More to the point, we see, 934 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: we don't know who's offering these fighters to do these things. 935 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: Are they dangerous people or are they just you know, degenerates. 936 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, we don't know, We have no idea, 937 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,400 Speaker 1: but I can just imagine that they're like, if you're 938 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: the UFC and you know this has been kind of 939 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,760 Speaker 1: kept from you by the fighters, not by like some plan, 940 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: but just to happen that way, you have to ask yourself, like, 941 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,440 Speaker 1: what kinds of lines of communication do you actually have 942 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 1: with your talent? 943 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 2: I'm with you on that, Dana. Here's a tweet a 944 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 2: quote tweet of what Dana gave us. A message to 945 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 2: any fighter that wants to consider fixing moving forward, he says, quote, 946 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: I've been very vocal, very open about this. We will 947 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: be your worst enemy. We will immediately go after you, 948 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: guns blazing with the FBI and whoever else we need 949 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 2: to get, and we will do everything we can to 950 00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 2: make sure you go to prison. End quote Luke. In hindsight, 951 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 2: should the UFC have called off that Dulgarian fight because 952 00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 2: of the aggressive line movement or was it enough in 953 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,760 Speaker 2: your eyes to talk to a fighter? According to Dana, 954 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 2: both Dulgarian and his lawyer said, we don't know any money, 955 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 2: any money to anybody. We have no enemies, we have 956 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,360 Speaker 2: no injuries. We're gonna kill that kid. In hindsight, should 957 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 2: they have just pulled that fight and not even taken the. 958 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: Chance we interrogate that? His lawyer said that, what does 959 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:49,879 Speaker 1: that mean? 960 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 2: How is it he is a manager? Manage? 961 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 1: Yeah? Because this is that's what I was thinking, which 962 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,080 Speaker 1: is again his manager might have like power of attorney 963 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 1: or something. But when we say like lawyer or who 964 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: is this? Who is this lawyer? I mean if I 965 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: was representing Dulgarian and I was his legal counsel, maybe 966 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say anything, but I would. I would. It 967 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 1: would be known who the person was to field these questions, right, 968 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 1: This would be the person representing them. This person has 969 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: never been identified. I think he's just talking about his manager. 970 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: I can't say that with full certainty, but I'm it's 971 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: just weird to be like, oh, it's lawyer, as if 972 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: it's like a third party. Doesn't doesn't really mean that. 973 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: What was sorry to see was the first part of 974 00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: that question. I apologize. 975 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,480 Speaker 2: Really, do you think they should have pulled that fight? Yes, 976 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 2: because of the suspicious nature of the betting. 977 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: Of course they should have. Now, I the question is not, Hey, 978 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,840 Speaker 1: anytime I see three sixty goes to you with some 979 00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: kind of indication about betting that caught their attention, do 980 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 1: you automatically have to pull about Maybe that is a 981 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,640 Speaker 1: little bit too much, but the amount that the Dulgarian 982 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: fight moved, which was like a full dollar amount in 983 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: terms of switching at the last minute, that was so 984 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: overwhelming that here's the problem, right, Ay, it was enough 985 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: of a movement where it's like a very clear threshold 986 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: to be like this one so suspicious that it's probably 987 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,040 Speaker 1: a good idea to just get on the other side 988 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: of this and figure it out later. More to the 989 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: point BC, again, we don't know if Dulgarian actually committed 990 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: a crime. It is certainly still very much possible. 991 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 2: They have donks. There's donks all over this game, Luke's 992 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 2: sonks exactly. 993 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: He could just be a donk. We really don't know. 994 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: So the point I'm trying to make is that is 995 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,840 Speaker 1: still possible. But of course the other possibility is that 996 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: he did commit a crime, which means the UFC was 997 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: given advance warning that this could happen and then still 998 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: let it go. There is some culpability to be shared 999 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,600 Speaker 1: in a situation like that. The point of I three sixty. 1000 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 1: And they do this stuff not just for UFC, for 1001 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 1: every league, for NFL, for NHL, for you name it. 1002 00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: They do it for everybody. It's they're like, hey, this 1003 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: is this is extra suspicious. I believe going forward that 1004 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,840 Speaker 1: again they can define some rules around this PC but 1005 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: as a general rule, if IC three to sixty comes 1006 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,439 Speaker 1: to you ahead of time with the same day late 1007 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: notice major fight movement. It is, dude, how essential was 1008 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: that bout to that card? It was not essential at all. 1009 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: You could remove it and people would not have known 1010 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: the difference in any way, Stop the fight before it starts, 1011 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: remove your own culpability from it, and I think the 1012 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,520 Speaker 1: UFC would be looking a lot better. I mean, and 1013 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: not to say that this is one hundred percent their fault, 1014 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,640 Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying, but to the extent that 1015 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: they do have culpability, they could have really minimized it 1016 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 1: with a little bit more foresight. And I think there 1017 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,000 Speaker 1: was indications given this week that going forward, I think 1018 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: they're going to adhere to that practice a lot more. 1019 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would guess they would have to here. I mean, 1020 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 2: they already survived one bullet with the James Cross scandal 1021 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 2: with Derek Derek, Mike. 1022 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,400 Speaker 1: Mayner, right, I think it's Minner, Derek. 1023 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 2: Minner, Jeff Molina, you know, loosely or greatly associated with 1024 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 2: that whatever. This is interesting. We did have the coach 1025 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,760 Speaker 2: of Factory X, Mark Montoya, the trainer of Isaac Dulgarian. Obviously, 1026 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: we haven't heard from Dulgarian publicly, but here was Mark 1027 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 2: Montoya on the Ariel Hawani to show this. We to 1028 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 2: talk about the greater impact of this scandal on him 1029 00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,080 Speaker 2: his gym, and you know, everything going on here. 1030 00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 10: I'm here because I want to first and foremost just 1031 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 10: make sure that we clear the air. You know, my 1032 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 10: my gym is being attacked, my integrity is being attacked, 1033 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 10: and I just want to first and foremost say we've 1034 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,600 Speaker 10: we have nothing to do with any of these allegations 1035 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 10: that are being brought upon us. People have asked me 1036 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 10: what my opinions are. To speculate right now is not 1037 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 10: my job. You know, My job is to right now 1038 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 10: continue to lead and not react. And with that said, 1039 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 10: you know, we we as a as a team. Myself, 1040 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,479 Speaker 10: as a person, I've never been involved in any type 1041 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,480 Speaker 10: of betting format. I've actually never even placed the sports 1042 00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 10: bet in my entire life. 1043 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you how to do it. 1044 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 10: And so you know, my job has always been to 1045 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,600 Speaker 10: train these guys to fight and win, train these guys 1046 00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 10: to in life. 1047 00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: And those are my two jobs. 1048 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 10: And so you know I take that very seriously, and 1049 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 10: you know, this is my life's work, and you can 1050 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 10: bet your ass that I would never for any sort 1051 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 10: of money, I would never sell my integrity or my word, 1052 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,000 Speaker 10: because in life, that's all you have. 1053 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: You have one thing. All these worldly things that we 1054 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: look at, the. 1055 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,280 Speaker 10: Cars, the houses, the money, all those things, those are worldly, 1056 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 10: man made things. And you know, we go and we 1057 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 10: leave ourselves with one thing when we leave this earth, 1058 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,360 Speaker 10: and that's our integrity and our word. And you couldn't 1059 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 10: pay me any amount of money to get rid of that. 1060 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: And so I just want. 1061 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 10: To start by saying that it's a very unfortunate situation. 1062 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 10: It's still unfolding, and you know, I just I'm just 1063 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 10: not here to speculate. 1064 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm here to speak fact. 1065 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 2: I mean, look, if I'm the UFC moving forward, I 1066 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,879 Speaker 2: don't call cash in the FBI you want this cleaned up, 1067 00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 2: I call too, to who the man who has his 1068 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,680 Speaker 2: own portion of the jail named after him? 1069 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can do that too. 1070 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 2: H E is him Luke? 1071 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 5: You know? 1072 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: Ye? Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. I mean, I don't know 1073 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,520 Speaker 1: what's happened at Factory X. I don't know what the 1074 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: situation is. I'll just say if what's been suggested is true, 1075 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: then they're gonna have a lot to deal with if 1076 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:35,400 Speaker 1: it's not. I mean, they might have some legal options 1077 00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,520 Speaker 1: about how they can move forward about what's been said 1078 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,919 Speaker 1: about their gym. So this is a this is a dude. 1079 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 1: It's the strange. It's a strange situation. It really really is. 1080 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say about it except stay tuned. 1081 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,759 Speaker 2: Man to close on this, Luke. You know, I've seen 1082 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,319 Speaker 2: some writing from Kidnaid and Zach Arnold and the mm 1083 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,440 Speaker 2: draw about how dangerous a scandal like this is, and 1084 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 2: I don't disagree when you consider such a large portion 1085 00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 2: of the audience for fight, nice warehouse cards, you know, 1086 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,440 Speaker 2: are betting. How does how could this get worse? Is 1087 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 2: there a scenario where you're no longer going to be 1088 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,040 Speaker 2: allowed to bet on these fights? Or will the UFC 1089 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 2: and the FBI make sure that never gets that well? 1090 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,319 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to say. I think partly what 1091 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 1: we just indicated was some of these pre fight ICE 1092 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,400 Speaker 1: three sixty flags I think are going to start carrying 1093 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,720 Speaker 1: a lot more weight. That might solve an enormous amount 1094 00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 1: of problems. Again, because we don't really know the extent, 1095 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,959 Speaker 1: but potentially that could be quite useful. I think something 1096 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: else to keep in mind, though, BC is you know, 1097 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 1: we haven't even had a conversation here about what it 1098 00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,759 Speaker 1: means for judges and referees in a year where some 1099 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: of that has been crazy. And I know there's been 1100 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: some suggestions about, you know, what X or y referee 1101 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 1: has done, but we don't really have enough information to 1102 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: say exactly what the truth is. Again, some of the 1103 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,279 Speaker 1: stuff needs to be investigated by the proper authorities, and 1104 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,920 Speaker 1: I guess we'll just have to be patient and see. 1105 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: But that I think is still potentially a problem that 1106 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: we'll need to get least some answers on. And you know, 1107 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what happens to the future of sports betting. 1108 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 1: I've seen that, you know, because of the NBA scandal. 1109 00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: I've seen some suggestions because like people have said, oh, 1110 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:12,640 Speaker 1: the MMA scandal is the same as the NBA one, 1111 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: but they're actually quite different. The Terry Rogier was accused 1112 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,239 Speaker 1: of like, you know, messing with people's prop bets, not 1113 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 1: turning over game results by you know, this continuous effort 1114 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: the whole way through to like sabotage or whatever in 1115 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: terms of games, whereas in the in the MMA case, 1116 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,400 Speaker 1: there's a situation where it's like, hey, are the total 1117 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 1: fights being fixed? 1118 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 11: Right? 1119 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:37,080 Speaker 1: It's a very different, which I think, honestly somewhat more 1120 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,279 Speaker 1: substantive problem, least in terms of what they're attempting at 1121 00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: a bare minimum. You know, could there be an end 1122 00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:43,800 Speaker 1: to prop betting or something like that? I really have 1123 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: no idea. Again, this is the other part too, BC. 1124 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: How do we know this is not happening in PFL? 1125 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: How do we know this is not happening in boxing? 1126 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,120 Speaker 1: Is anyone really looking into it with the same kind 1127 00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 1: of you know, laser focus that you're seeing in these situations. 1128 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: This is a process both in MMA and I think 1129 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 1: more broadly in sports that's gonna unfold and we're gonna 1130 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 1: have to see what happens. 1131 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,719 Speaker 2: I mean, there's levels to things. You know, there was 1132 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 2: speculation here. That's that sixteen million dollars moved with the 1133 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 2: line switches for this Dulgarian fight and the large amount 1134 00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 2: of bets that were placed. Maybe it happens on like 1135 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 2: much smaller levels in boxing or PFL in those other situations. 1136 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 2: But like when that much amount of money for a 1137 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,240 Speaker 2: fight of this little significance, when those two things come together, 1138 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: that's when it's gonna raise those flags and lead to this. Yeah, 1139 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 2: we'll see where it goes here. Let's go on to 1140 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,280 Speaker 2: topic number three. H John Jones took off his comedic 1141 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,759 Speaker 2: eye patch and came out of hiding this week to 1142 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 2: appear on something called the No Scripts podcast, where he 1143 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,040 Speaker 2: proceeded to take a squad on Tom Aspinall like that 1144 00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 2: gross episode of Oz, calling Aspinall everything from a one 1145 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,840 Speaker 2: trick pony to overrated to a quitter. In fact, his 1146 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 2: comments were so spicy. Yeah, you already knew it. We 1147 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 2: called up our friends at Quervo for something we like 1148 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 2: to call shots fire, and of course shots Fired brought 1149 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 2: to you by Cuervo. Now is a good time to 1150 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,000 Speaker 2: enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. We got a couple 1151 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 2: pieces of sound here surrounding Jones. Here's the first one 1152 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: as he breaks down Aspinall's nearly one round no contest 1153 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 2: against Cyril Gon or Cereal Gain at UFC three twenty one. 1154 00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 12: Talk to me about what you saw in his fight 1155 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 12: with Dynamy, because God looked like he was controlling the 1156 00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:39,839 Speaker 12: fight with Cerril Gone. 1157 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 11: Yeah, Tom's a great athlete, but I do feel like 1158 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 11: he's a one trick pony. I believe that his wrestling 1159 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 11: in jiu jitsu is incredibly overrated. He has a beautiful 1160 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,360 Speaker 11: one two. I got to learn a lot about his 1161 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 11: patterns in his last fight. That's really about it. That's 1162 00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 11: the one thing that he's setting up real nice. He 1163 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 11: couldn't touch cerial Gain at all. That's the way I felt. 1164 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,280 Speaker 11: I felt like Gain was just getting warmed up. Gaine's 1165 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,680 Speaker 11: hands was done. He's shaking, his shoulders, bunted around. 1166 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 1: He was so he busted him open. 1167 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 11: He was so comfortable. 1168 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:08,960 Speaker 13: I think Tom was looking for a way out and 1169 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,520 Speaker 13: he took it. He needs to change his game long. 1170 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,600 Speaker 2: I look at you. Also play the one about quitter 1171 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,240 Speaker 2: next right now, Thank you Tom. 1172 00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:22,439 Speaker 11: When when Tom gets hurt, it's like he's like immediately incapacitated, 1173 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 11: immediately shut down. It's like you poked my eye and 1174 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,040 Speaker 11: then he's like immediately, there was no like. 1175 00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 13: He never tried to look. It was rag on the 1176 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 13: eye immediately. 1177 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 11: The silliest looking cat on National TV. 1178 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,440 Speaker 1: He's just trying. He didn't try. 1179 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 11: Same thing with Curtis plays when he when he hurt 1180 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 11: his knee, there was no limping, there was no trying 1181 00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 11: to get up. It was just like, immediately, yep, burn 1182 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,400 Speaker 11: my village. 1183 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: I can't go on. 1184 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:47,680 Speaker 13: He doesn't have the dog in him that kill or 1185 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:48,160 Speaker 13: be killed. 1186 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 11: Immediately quits. Yeah, when he got tapped out with an 1187 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:54,000 Speaker 11: ankle lock, there was there was no trying to fight 1188 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 11: his hands, there were no trying to He immediately quit. 1189 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,000 Speaker 13: You see the pattern immediately, And I said, I noticed 1190 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 13: the profile pick change and then you had someone on 1191 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 13: your horse too, similars that I. 1192 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 1: Was just having fun, having fun with the ipatch, I. 1193 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 11: Having phone with it. Yeah, like you know, he had 1194 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,040 Speaker 11: at it with me. He had a long time coming 1195 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 11: at me. So it's just it's to keep the fans engaged. 1196 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,439 Speaker 11: Of course, it's just to keep things fun. 1197 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,160 Speaker 2: So Luke, considering it was only five months ago that 1198 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 2: John Jones retired to despite rumors of generational money being 1199 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 2: offered to unify Belts against aspinall, did this interview confirm 1200 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: that Bony just passed Ronda Rousey as the most insufferable 1201 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,960 Speaker 2: fighter in UFC history or does he have a point 1202 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 2: with his criticism. 1203 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I just who cares, bro I mean, I'm 1204 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:41,680 Speaker 1: with the fans on this one. I don't know why 1205 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about this bullshit? Like, what do you want 1206 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: me to say? I mean, is there something to what 1207 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 1: he says about Tom? Maybe some Yeah, sure Tom does 1208 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,040 Speaker 1: have a nice one too. He's very athletic, but he 1209 00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,640 Speaker 1: could be overrated relative to the public perceived him. Although 1210 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: that's something that might be crashed. There's something to be 1211 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 1: said for that. But it's like, even if all that 1212 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: is true, then why the fuck did you run from him? 1213 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like it doesn't It's just 1214 00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 1: a really weird situation where it's like, could there be 1215 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 1: validity to some of the criticisms that John is sharing 1216 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: about Tom, particularly in light of the last fight. Of course, 1217 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:19,360 Speaker 1: of course there could be some truth to that. You know, 1218 00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: John is a keen observer in general of his opponents, 1219 00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 1: but it doesn't to me. It's like, Dude, the guy 1220 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 1: is clearly he's just an opportunist, you know, He's an 1221 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:38,640 Speaker 1: opportunist and and you know, and I'm not inter I 1222 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 1: can only speak for myself. I'm not interested in him 1223 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: fighting again. I realized that the fan base will decide that, 1224 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: and Daniel will decide that, and it doesn't matter what 1225 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: I think. I totally get it. But I saw the 1226 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,920 Speaker 1: best of his career, the last part of it has 1227 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,960 Speaker 1: been terrible to sit through. These podcast interviews make it 1228 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 1: even worse. Like if he's gonna fight, fine, I'll wait 1229 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: for that and I'll cover that like anything else, and 1230 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: we'll discuss it at the time. But he I just don't. 1231 01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 1: I just genuinely don't care what he has to say, 1232 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: and it doesn't move me one way or the other. 1233 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, my response was fuck off after watching this. This 1234 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 2: is what we call in pro wrestling, go away heat xbox. 1235 01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 2: He like, get off my screen. 1236 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 1: He yeah, So why is he talking to the microphone 1237 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: like this? 1238 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:24,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, at least talk Damon Martin style and like eat it. 1239 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: Luke, Right, just like I talk to the microphone. There 1240 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,080 Speaker 1: should be a fist between your face and the microphone, 1241 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,800 Speaker 1: not ten feet. Okay, all right, all right. 1242 01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 2: Well John Jones would go on in that interview to 1243 01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 2: say he actually took He said it was his fault, 1244 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,840 Speaker 2: how that aspinall thing happened and fell apart, but claims 1245 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,360 Speaker 2: that he believes Dana White will we'll turn it around 1246 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 2: and allow him to fight again. Here's John Jones talking 1247 01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:50,360 Speaker 2: about that potential return. 1248 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:51,400 Speaker 1: It's the big card. 1249 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 13: You keep talking about that you want to be on 1250 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 13: a White House card, right, Yeah? Who do you want 1251 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 13: for that? You want Pereira? 1252 01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 11: I like to fight Alex Pereiro at the White House. Yeah. 1253 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,440 Speaker 11: I feel like he's incredibly respectful. I feel like he's 1254 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 11: a household name in America. In MMA, everybody knows who 1255 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 11: he is. He's a champion, He's in the conversation of 1256 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,000 Speaker 11: being one of the greatest fighters of all time. It 1257 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 11: would be a block buster event. I think the whole 1258 01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 11: world will come out. I've beat many Brazilians over the 1259 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 11: course of my life. Many it's the people that have 1260 01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,640 Speaker 11: beat the most either way, that fight where to go. 1261 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 11: No one loses in that fight. It generates so many 1262 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 11: millions for the sport. There's just no losing me. You 1263 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 11: have such high level of people competing and respect each other. 1264 01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 12: And I think too, like when you talk about the 1265 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,480 Speaker 12: White House and having the greatest American fighter of all time, 1266 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 12: I mean, how can you have a White House card 1267 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,120 Speaker 12: without literally the go the go. So it's like this 1268 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 12: is something that can be such a big events, especially 1269 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 12: with you headlining it, whether it's Perera or if obviously we. 1270 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 1: Saw what happened with the aspinall fight. 1271 01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:50,760 Speaker 3: Most recently. 1272 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 2: Look a lot of glau glaw glag going out in 1273 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 2: that interview. I gotta say I took umbradge aggressively with 1274 01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:02,800 Speaker 2: the Pereira is light mark Hey here, by the way, 1275 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 2: I believe is the only time Tom and John have 1276 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,200 Speaker 2: been seen on camera each other. Let's see how impolite 1277 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 2: Tom was here. 1278 01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this thing. 1279 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,120 Speaker 13: I would hop the ri spang all the let's get 1280 01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 13: it face off. 1281 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: No, No, I. 1282 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,080 Speaker 11: Was sitting there with them with a face like I 1283 01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:25,919 Speaker 11: wasn't scared would be that on the side. 1284 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,400 Speaker 1: I was terrified, terrified. 1285 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: Look, how could you be literally the greatest fighter of 1286 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 2: all time and then be this awful on the other side. 1287 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,160 Speaker 2: And I'm not even talking about the arrests and all that. 1288 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 2: Bs like just being a damn bitch about this, right, 1289 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 2: You're like, come on, bro. 1290 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Once again, dude, I don't know why we're doing I 1291 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: just don't care. I mean again, if he fights in 1292 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:50,520 Speaker 1: the White House, we'll take a moment to like talk 1293 01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,440 Speaker 1: about what that means and blah blah blah, and if 1294 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: it's if it's Tom, if it's if it's Alex. Okay, 1295 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: when that becomes a relevant thing, that we have to 1296 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,400 Speaker 1: present to the world, then we'll present it to the world. 1297 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: But as it stands, I like the John Jones podcast 1298 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: or could not be more boring if they tried. 1299 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 2: Well. 1300 01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:11,479 Speaker 1: Oh at Ishmael Bonfem missed weigh by five pounds. Holy shit, 1301 01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,320 Speaker 1: Oh boy. 1302 01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,400 Speaker 2: I will have you know, Luke that the Nelk Boys podcast, 1303 01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: which recently had bb Net and Yahoo on it, just 1304 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 2: had Eric Trump on it. And Eric Trump said John 1305 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,960 Speaker 2: Jones has to be on this card, has to Luke. 1306 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 2: That's cool, has to alrighty then, Hey, speaking of timing, here, 1307 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,400 Speaker 2: now is a good time to remember where tequila's story 1308 01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 2: truly began. Yeah, I'm talking about seventeen ninety five, Quervo 1309 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 2: invented tequila, and since then, Cuervo has stayed true to 1310 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 2: its roots, the same family, the same land. Oh yeah, 1311 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:49,000 Speaker 2: you better believe that same passion. Two hundred and thirty 1312 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 2: years later, Quervo is still right here in every pore, 1313 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 2: in every margarita, in every celebration. So enjoy the tequila 1314 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 2: that started at all, the tequila that invented tequila. Proxymoquervo 1315 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:11,280 Speaker 2: dot com. Please drink responsibly, And Luke Thomas, speaking of drinking, responsibly. 1316 01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:18,040 Speaker 2: Next Thursday, November thirteenth, eleven am Eastern, Live and direct 1317 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 2: from the Metal Arcs Studios in Manhattan. It's UFC three 1318 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 2: twenty two pregame preview brought to you by Querrevo with 1319 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 2: BCLT and The Mac Life's Oscar Willis your Yeah, yeah, 1320 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 2: horn horned up, indeed, luke your expectations of what the 1321 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 2: three of us can produce. 1322 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:48,080 Speaker 1: My viewers yesterday on the live chat basically surmised that 1323 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: there's a you know what, I actually this is a 1324 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:54,080 Speaker 1: sponsored segment. I don't want to get I need to 1325 01:04:54,160 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: be careful. They basically just said, I'll I'll treat it. 1326 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: You euphemistically expect the unexpected when Oscar Willis comes into 1327 01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the studio. That's That's the nicest way I can say it, 1328 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's probably a pretty fair way to 1329 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,040 Speaker 1: look at the world because Oscar is nothing if not 1330 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,200 Speaker 1: a I mean, this is just the worst person in 1331 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:21,280 Speaker 1: the world. He's the OA of everything. Dude. Can you 1332 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 1: imagine his browsing history? Can you imagine such a thing? 1333 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 2: I call him Oscar Wilde. And by the way, his 1334 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 2: off the record stories about hanging with Connor that he 1335 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 2: can't tell people those are the best. 1336 01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 1: Not even just Connor Dude, a lot of other people too. 1337 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 1: He's got people ask me like, oh, you know, you 1338 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: know there's a lot of secrecy in the sport. Wait 1339 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,439 Speaker 1: until Oscar does his tell all book. Just do wait, 1340 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,400 Speaker 1: just do wait. 1341 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go with that MK of course, brought 1342 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 2: to you by Quervo. Now's a good time to enjoy 1343 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 2: the tequila that invented tequila. We're gonna have a lot 1344 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 2: of fun next Thursday. Do not miss it. Not just 1345 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 2: for Oscar Wilde, but that card MSG. It's fricking loaded. 1346 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,920 Speaker 2: So we'll take your top to be. 1347 01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,920 Speaker 1: It's an a card, it's an a car. 1348 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 2: It's very very, very very good. From the title fights 1349 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 2: that atop the marquee, to the star power, the depth 1350 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 2: everything the arena. Let's freaking go with that one, all right. 1351 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 2: Topic number four. We don't have to linger too long 1352 01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,600 Speaker 2: on this. You already know Jake Paul Gervonte Davis. It's 1353 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 2: canceled November fourteenth on Netflix. Since then, we've seen Jake 1354 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 2: enter a war of war with Francis Nganu. We've seen 1355 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,760 Speaker 2: Jake announce that he's going to postpone his return to 1356 01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 2: sometime in December, and we've seen everyone from Nate dis 1357 01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 2: jumping out and saying he's accepted the fight. Now, officially, 1358 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 2: no new opponent has been announced, but the fallout of 1359 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,240 Speaker 2: this announcement did create a mini debate as to whether 1360 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 2: the civil lawsuit pending against Tank for domestic violas violence 1361 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,440 Speaker 2: was actually the reason why the fight was sacked, with 1362 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,720 Speaker 2: critics calling out Paul's virtue signaling of saying the fight 1363 01:06:52,840 --> 01:06:56,280 Speaker 2: isn't happening because he runs a female first boxing promotion. 1364 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,200 Speaker 2: Look quickly on this, how much of a role do 1365 01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,720 Speaker 2: you believe the actual poor ticket sales, not to mention 1366 01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,400 Speaker 2: the apathy for this fight in the boxing world played 1367 01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 2: in this fight getting canceled, and we can throw up 1368 01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:14,120 Speaker 2: the This was the ticket Master seat map as recently 1369 01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 2: as October twenty eighth. Those blue seats are the ones 1370 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 2: that were still available. Do you believe the narrative here? 1371 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:22,200 Speaker 5: Uh? 1372 01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 1: No, I mean it's obviously a stupid pretext. I mean, 1373 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm not one of these people that thinks like the 1374 01:07:30,360 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: charge of virtue signaling is thrown around way too much, 1375 01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 1: Like sometimes people are just generally trying to be good 1376 01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:36,280 Speaker 1: and people are like, oh, you're making a big show 1377 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:38,440 Speaker 1: of it. But in this particular case, it seems a 1378 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:42,480 Speaker 1: well applied term because dude, none of this was exactly 1379 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:46,320 Speaker 1: not known about Dravante before the fight. I mean, the 1380 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: guy was already on fucking not for the domestic violence 1381 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: part of it, but he was already on probation like 1382 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,560 Speaker 1: his this was this was just the latest chapter in 1383 01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 1: a long string of them. And remember there was a 1384 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,040 Speaker 1: recent amount where I think it was a recent charges 1385 01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: that were dropped against him because the person in that 1386 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 1: particular case, the alleged victim, refused to I think move 1387 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,880 Speaker 1: forward with the case, so they I think they opted me, 1388 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:12,880 Speaker 1: had to drop it. But like this was well known, Dude, 1389 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 1: is am I misremembering? Didn't Jake Paul in some of 1390 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 1: the press conferences tease Jervonte about domestic violence? Like this 1391 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:27,839 Speaker 1: was super well known. So this is obviously a bullshit 1392 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: pretext that I mean we talked about it before. Jervonte, 1393 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,519 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, was putting no effort into this. 1394 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 1: It seemed there I think people were. I don't think 1395 01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Jake really understands how much he turned people off with 1396 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 1: that Mike Tyson fight. It was a disaster. 1397 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 2: That escalated it to Luke. 1398 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:49,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's just been a lot that people 1399 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:51,800 Speaker 1: have been like, ugh, we've kind of seen what the 1400 01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,719 Speaker 1: Jake Paul experiences. We don't really want to do this anymore. Again, 1401 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 1: we were participants in it for a while too, but 1402 01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,840 Speaker 1: it seems like it's unless it's going to be something 1403 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: other than what it's been, has really run its course 1404 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,160 Speaker 1: and the market was responding in a way that they 1405 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,680 Speaker 1: just didn't have any interest. Again, Dravante wasn't making it 1406 01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 1: easy for them by the way which she was going 1407 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,120 Speaker 1: about it. But this is just obviously a bullshit pretext 1408 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,920 Speaker 1: thing because you know, I mean, didn't Jake Paul fight 1409 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: in Saudi? 1410 01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:17,360 Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean, I. 1411 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,400 Speaker 1: Mean, like, dude, you're wanting to do business with a 1412 01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 1: theocratic monarchy, Like, please stop with this pretension of what 1413 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 1: this all means to you, you know. 1414 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:27,120 Speaker 2: I mean I tweeted out that it was, you know, 1415 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 2: obvious that the ticket sales were were the major reason, 1416 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,560 Speaker 2: and Nikisha badari And of MVP tweeted back at me 1417 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 2: and said that's funny. And I know Ariel has like 1418 01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 2: said yeah, yeah, he was like that's funny, as if 1419 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,920 Speaker 2: I you know, it wasn't true, and then I know 1420 01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,080 Speaker 2: Ariel's made the case that like it was never going 1421 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 2: to be about the live gate because of the money 1422 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 2: they're getting from Netflix. But and whether they would have 1423 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,760 Speaker 2: papered the arena or not, which does happen a lot 1424 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 2: in boxing. I'm not gonna act like it doesn't. People 1425 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:57,720 Speaker 2: were just done. People were just done with this stupid fight, 1426 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 2: and rightfully so. Here's quickly the Jake tweet in which 1427 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 2: he announced it attacking Jervonte, basically saying Tank is a actual, walking, 1428 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,559 Speaker 2: human piece of garbage. Working with him was an absolute nightmare, 1429 01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 2: the nightmare of the unprofessionalism, the bizarre requests, the showing 1430 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 2: up hours late to shoot. 1431 01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on, he's right about that part. Piece, Yeah, 1432 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: he is. 1433 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 2: He is. 1434 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: He's absolutely one hundred percent. We've had to deal with 1435 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: Tank on the showtime side with shit like that. He 1436 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 1: is tough to deal with, dude. 1437 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 2: The Ryan Garcia press conference in which you and I 1438 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,400 Speaker 2: vamped for ninety minutes and didn't know we were going 1439 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 2: to until they were counting down in our air three 1440 01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 2: two one. He had not even left the private airport 1441 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 2: in Miami at that point to come to the New 1442 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 2: York press conference. So that is what you're dealing with. Jake. 1443 01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,559 Speaker 2: Paul would just go on to you know, talk bad 1444 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,400 Speaker 2: about him and all that. Uh luke. Here's the interesting thing. 1445 01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: There were reports that Jake offered, of course, contracts to 1446 01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,479 Speaker 2: everyone from Ryan Garcia to Andre Ward to Francis and Gano. 1447 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,600 Speaker 2: But Francis and Gano talked to Team Z Sports and 1448 01:10:58,680 --> 01:10:59,920 Speaker 2: he seemed like he wasn't interested. 1449 01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 14: Let's listen, how how can how can they go from 1450 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 14: like Givante Davis to Francis and come on like the 1451 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,280 Speaker 14: way different and everything? 1452 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 1: It makes no sense. It makes no sense. 1453 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:15,560 Speaker 14: Did I reached out the other day and tell me 1454 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 14: how they need a replacement for Givante? Then I say, okay, 1455 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 14: what can I do for you? He said, yeah, we're 1456 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,519 Speaker 14: looking for a replacement. But I still haven't getted. I 1457 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:30,160 Speaker 14: was like, okay, then, what exactly can I do for you? 1458 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 14: Like we would think about you? To fact Jack, I'm 1459 01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,599 Speaker 14: like what, I'm like, whush? 1460 01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:35,920 Speaker 5: Jake? 1461 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 14: I was so confused. I'm like, no, bro, come on, 1462 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 14: don't disrespect me like that. He sent out some number. 1463 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 14: I'm like, it's not about the number. I'm not just interested. 1464 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:49,439 Speaker 2: He makes no sense for me, is it flattering at 1465 01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,640 Speaker 2: least that that they're thinking about you. 1466 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,600 Speaker 1: I think it's disrespectful. 1467 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,559 Speaker 5: Instead we work flattering. 1468 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 2: Come on, I mean, I get it if you're saying 1469 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,600 Speaker 2: it from a standpoint of don't don't reach out to 1470 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 2: me as a last man and opponent with some small offer, 1471 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 2: like actually announced that you're willing to fight me, pay 1472 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:09,920 Speaker 2: me what I deserve, and build to it. Because look, 1473 01:12:09,960 --> 01:12:12,479 Speaker 2: I mean, the argument for me is that that's the 1474 01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 2: fight where JA can recruit re That's the fight where 1475 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,320 Speaker 2: Jake can best outside of fighting for like a legitimate 1476 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,400 Speaker 2: cruiserweight title. That's the fight where Jake can get the 1477 01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,920 Speaker 2: most street cred back even in a loss, just for 1478 01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,400 Speaker 2: taking it, like if he actually would if he cares 1479 01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 2: about actual boxing street cred, like maybe he would get 1480 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 2: a little if he rematched Tommy Fury, which is his 1481 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 2: only pro loss. I think the Anganu fight is his 1482 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:38,320 Speaker 2: super Bowl, and I've said that from the beginning, because 1483 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 2: that's a fight in which I would think almost anyone 1484 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 2: would pick against him and assume he would get hurt 1485 01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 2: and knocked out. Yet if he can win that, I'm 1486 01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 2: not of the belief he's of the world title level. 1487 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,080 Speaker 2: To me, the Anganu fight is like the crossover bubble 1488 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 2: celebrity super Bowl. We did see a back and forth 1489 01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,439 Speaker 2: on Twitter between these two. We can briefly check it 1490 01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:02,360 Speaker 2: out here, in which Francis said, choose your words wisely, boy. 1491 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,800 Speaker 2: I agree that you need someone to discipline you for 1492 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,200 Speaker 2: what you did to Mike Tyson, but stay in your lane. 1493 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,880 Speaker 2: Jake would say, my lane helped your lane. I spoke 1494 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 2: up for you over and over again. No more. Look 1495 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,439 Speaker 2: at yourself in the mirror. God don't like ugly. Maybe 1496 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:17,760 Speaker 2: the truth is you are a fake holier than now 1497 01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,560 Speaker 2: actor when it's always been just about you. Maybe you 1498 01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,599 Speaker 2: use your platform to speak on the youth of our 1499 01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 2: country posting a flag, ain't it, instead of doing TMZ 1500 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,799 Speaker 2: interviews like a con man to talk about me reality 1501 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,280 Speaker 2: Teck I sleep you in boxing and John Jones does 1502 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 2: in MMA. I guess whatever. That's pretty lame. Lt. We 1503 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,960 Speaker 2: also had Natz coming out with this IG post in 1504 01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:44,240 Speaker 2: which he said he accepts the rematch. I'm not gonna 1505 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:47,439 Speaker 2: act like you care or I really care. But if 1506 01:13:47,479 --> 01:13:49,880 Speaker 2: it's not in Ghanu, is there any other opponent where 1507 01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:50,320 Speaker 2: you might. 1508 01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: Do anything but turn the channel, Joshua? 1509 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 2: Even though that that's murder. 1510 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, sweet, all right? 1511 01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,519 Speaker 2: I mean do you agree with me that that in 1512 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,519 Speaker 2: Ghanu should be the fight that like they should build 1513 01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,800 Speaker 2: to this now and Don Davis should get involved too, 1514 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,080 Speaker 2: put in the damn smart cage. However you do it. 1515 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,840 Speaker 2: This is the fight for Jake. 1516 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,080 Speaker 1: Long Island. Luke hates this fight Long Island, Luke, why 1517 01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,200 Speaker 1: do you hate a Jake Paul, Francis and Ghana fight. 1518 01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:21,840 Speaker 4: No, you guys were saying in the group chat, I 1519 01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:24,519 Speaker 4: don't know why Francis wouldn't just take this, And I said, 1520 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 4: because it's a lose lose for Francis. Either he beats 1521 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,200 Speaker 4: Jake Paul and everyone goes, well, no shit, Francis beat 1522 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,880 Speaker 4: Jake Paul, or you lose to Jake Paul and everyone's like, 1523 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 4: oh god, Francis lost to Jake Paul. So there's like, sure, 1524 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,120 Speaker 4: if he wants a big payday, that's that's the benefit obviously, 1525 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 4: But if you're set in near Francis, like why even 1526 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,880 Speaker 4: why even put yourself on that level. It's kind of 1527 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,040 Speaker 4: like what I was thinking with Tank Tank. You have 1528 01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 4: all this money, maybe he's spending it all, but like, 1529 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,719 Speaker 4: why are you wasting? Why are you tainting your legacy 1530 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:57,360 Speaker 4: by doing this when you have plenty of money. I 1531 01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 4: don't understand it. 1532 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:00,640 Speaker 5: You see. 1533 01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: I'll just say this, if he made Netflix money and 1534 01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: then stretched Jake, Paul Francis and Ghanu would be a 1535 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,479 Speaker 1: hero in MMA four for the rest of time. 1536 01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:13,120 Speaker 2: He really would, He really really would. That is topic 1537 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 2: number four. Hey, topic five. Finally, Oh freakin' finally, we've 1538 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,960 Speaker 2: got a fight to get excited about in boxing and 1539 01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 2: considering the abs absolute urinal cakes being presented to us 1540 01:15:25,320 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 2: in the boxing schedule over the second half of this 1541 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 2: calendar year, Saturday's Dezonne Showdown from Fort Worth, Texas, matching 1542 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 2: top junior middleweights Virgil Ortiz Junior, the unbeaten from Dallas 1543 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 2: and Ericson Lubin, the former title challenger who was only 1544 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 2: lost at the highest level to Jermel Charlow and in 1545 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 2: a fight of the year against Sebastian Frondora. They're gonna 1546 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 2: touch down and trade punches this Saturday, where Tez might 1547 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,280 Speaker 2: be fighting for a chance to face Drawn Bootsennis in 1548 01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 2: his next bout, although Eddie hernan Oscar d Hoyer going 1549 01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,840 Speaker 2: back and forth a bit this week about that and 1550 01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:06,759 Speaker 2: Lubin by the way, this would be the biggest victory 1551 01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:09,639 Speaker 2: of his career and would face and send him directly 1552 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,080 Speaker 2: into a title opportunity as they'll fight for the interim 1553 01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,080 Speaker 2: WBC title at one fifty four. But it's really about 1554 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 2: putting themselves in position. 1555 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:18,599 Speaker 11: Now. 1556 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:22,759 Speaker 2: The odds are pretty wide according to DraftKings or Virgil 1557 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 2: Ortiz a minus one thousand favorite. We do see that 1558 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,799 Speaker 2: a lot in boxing though, plus six hundred for Lubin. 1559 01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 2: But we know this is going to be exciting and 1560 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:36,040 Speaker 2: we know a lot of at stake. Luke, in your opinion, 1561 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,880 Speaker 2: as we watched the face off here between the two 1562 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,000 Speaker 2: fighters from a recent press conference, what's the most exciting 1563 01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 2: aspect of this matchup in your eyes? 1564 01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say that Lubin is a puncher. Do you 1565 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 1: agree with that? BC Heck, yeah, yeah, he's a puncher. Now, 1566 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,400 Speaker 1: obviously he's got that first round loss to Charlo whatever. 1567 01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,840 Speaker 1: But in general, and you know, he got beaten up 1568 01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,640 Speaker 1: by Fundora over the course of time and busted up 1569 01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,400 Speaker 1: his face and it's swollowed up, looked like he had 1570 01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,040 Speaker 1: been stung by a thousand bees. But in general, like 1571 01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 1: Lubin is pretty skilled and definitely a good puncher and 1572 01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 1: B see, I'll say this, I think Ortiz I'm not 1573 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,200 Speaker 1: gonna call him a slickster. I don't think that's quite right. 1574 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 1: But he's got a few more tricks than I think 1575 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:19,280 Speaker 1: he gets credit for. But when you marry that with 1576 01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: the kind of pressure that he puts on, you know, 1577 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 1: you kind of wonder if Lubin is gonna be able 1578 01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: to stand up to it. At the same time, he 1579 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 1: does make himself available for counter punching or you know, 1580 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: a big shot from a guy like Lubin. Lubin is 1581 01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 1: a puncher, you know, he's a puncher in you know, 1582 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 1: in a sport world everyone is, so he's he can crack. 1583 01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:39,840 Speaker 1: What does that do to Ortiz if he starts to 1584 01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:42,160 Speaker 1: get hit with some of those now again, BC just 1585 01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:44,200 Speaker 1: put my cards on the table. I feel like Ortiz 1586 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,320 Speaker 1: in the odds speak to that. Obviously, he's kind of 1587 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,720 Speaker 1: going to overwhelm Lubin, but it could definitely be a 1588 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,560 Speaker 1: little bit touch and go if Lubin is able to 1589 01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 1: get into a rhythm in the early round. 1590 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,639 Speaker 2: I agree with you. Lubin's been a nice run since 1591 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,879 Speaker 2: that wild All Action lost to Fandora back in twenty 1592 01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:06,040 Speaker 2: twenty two, he stopped Luis cuba arias a very good, 1593 01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,919 Speaker 2: uh you know, gatekeeper type fighter. He took a close decision, 1594 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,759 Speaker 2: went over I'm beating Hezeus Ramos, and then he stopped 1595 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 2: unbeating Ardrelle Holmes Junior in the eleventh round to get 1596 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,679 Speaker 2: to this point despite the odds against him. Of course, 1597 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,880 Speaker 2: Ortiz the bigger name, the brighter ceiling when you consider 1598 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 2: at twenty seven, he's twenty three and oh with twenty one, 1599 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 2: KOs never got to face the elite at welterweight because 1600 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 2: he was avoided. 1601 01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:31,000 Speaker 13: Then. 1602 01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 2: Of course he had that two year gap in the 1603 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:35,799 Speaker 2: midst of his prime when he had that muscle disease 1604 01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:39,200 Speaker 2: what was that called Luke ram boyosis. 1605 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:44,120 Speaker 1: Oh rabdomialysis right with rabdo for short. 1606 01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 2: Which killed his way cuts, threatened actually his his health. 1607 01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 2: He did come back though, in less less than two 1608 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 2: years ago. In the run he's been on a one 1609 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 2: fifty four has been great, stopped veterans Frederick Lawston and 1610 01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,920 Speaker 2: Thomas DeLorme, got up off the canvas twice to out 1611 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 2: duel Sir hey Boa Chuck in a Fight of the 1612 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,479 Speaker 2: Year contender, But really it was his last fight in 1613 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,719 Speaker 2: February of this year when he went in there against 1614 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,760 Speaker 2: former champion Israel Madramov and for the first time at 1615 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 2: the highest level, showed that his boxing and his IQ 1616 01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 2: with Robert Garcia in his corner, is on the same 1617 01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,599 Speaker 2: level of his two handed punching ability, his body work, 1618 01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 2: his square up and brawl ability. So we're gonna see action, 1619 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna see fun right here. Let's first hear from 1620 01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 2: ericson Lubin and then Ortiz during their face off with 1621 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:28,599 Speaker 2: Todd Grisham. 1622 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,040 Speaker 1: A lot of people do not want to fight this guy. 1623 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:33,639 Speaker 1: He has been avoided, and yet you've been calling him out. 1624 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:35,560 Speaker 3: What are you seeing him that makes you think you 1625 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 3: can beat him? 1626 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 15: I feel like he's a great fighter. I just feel 1627 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,920 Speaker 15: like right now is my time. I feel like I 1628 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,960 Speaker 15: faced the toughest guys in the division, and I'm just 1629 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 15: ready to prove myself. You know, this is my third 1630 01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 15: undefeated fighter in a row and top ten contender, and 1631 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,200 Speaker 15: I'm just looking to solidify myself as the best one 1632 01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:57,320 Speaker 15: hundred and fifty four pounder. 1633 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,920 Speaker 1: When you heard his name being mentioned as a potential opponent, 1634 01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:01,519 Speaker 1: what did you think. 1635 01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,040 Speaker 16: I thought that this was a great fight, you know, 1636 01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:08,559 Speaker 16: He's like, like we've been saying he's been in there 1637 01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,360 Speaker 16: with the best, and uh, you know that's I just 1638 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:13,160 Speaker 16: want to fight the best. 1639 01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:13,680 Speaker 3: That's really it. 1640 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 5: You know. 1641 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 16: I don't get again anything against anybody. I'm just a 1642 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:17,679 Speaker 16: competitive person. 1643 01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:22,840 Speaker 2: Now. Luke Ortiz was supposed to fight Boots Ennis for 1644 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,120 Speaker 2: Giranas's one fifty four debut. He says he signed a contract. 1645 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,400 Speaker 2: He claims Boots pulled out of that took on that 1646 01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:31,880 Speaker 2: guy Lima that no one had heard of, and by 1647 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,080 Speaker 2: the way, he destroyed Lima in one round. But Erickson 1648 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,800 Speaker 2: Lubin does believe that Ortiz and team are looking past him, 1649 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,080 Speaker 2: talking too much about that Girana in this fight, even 1650 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:45,519 Speaker 2: though at the press conference, uh victor or Virgil Ortiz 1651 01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 2: refused to even mention uh giron unis his name. Here's 1652 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,000 Speaker 2: one more clip here from Lubin talking with Brian Custer. 1653 01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,720 Speaker 2: This is an opportunity for me to shut everybody up. 1654 01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 17: Tell us what you meant by that, you know, with 1655 01:20:58,120 --> 01:21:01,639 Speaker 17: with with Virgiots and Boots, you know they're they're looking 1656 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:02,240 Speaker 17: past me. 1657 01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 3: You know they they're they're looking. 1658 01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,880 Speaker 17: To create fantasy matches way before you know anything like 1659 01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:10,680 Speaker 17: this happens you know, this is a big fight right here. 1660 01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:14,400 Speaker 17: This is Virgo Ortiz's biggest fight, biggest test in my opinion, 1661 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,560 Speaker 17: and this is one of my biggest fights, you know. 1662 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:19,559 Speaker 2: But I fought I fought the cream of the crop 1663 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:20,240 Speaker 2: of the division. 1664 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:24,320 Speaker 17: I fought Fundorras, I fought Charlo, I fought Ramos, And 1665 01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,040 Speaker 17: you know, me fighting a guy like Virgo Ortiz, I'm 1666 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 17: just I'm highly prepared. Like I'm I'm I'm extremely prepared 1667 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 17: for this fight, and I'm looking to mess. 1668 01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:34,080 Speaker 3: Up all those plans. 1669 01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 2: Let's see what happens here. Look, I think it's gonna 1670 01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 2: be explosive. I think you obviously have to favor Ortiz. 1671 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,920 Speaker 2: The odds aren't wrong in that regard, given the fact 1672 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,479 Speaker 2: that Lubin's only two losses he did get knocked out. 1673 01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 2: That does factor in. But if Lubin tries to make 1674 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,680 Speaker 2: this a war early, I think that's gonna be his 1675 01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,760 Speaker 2: best chance to to compete in a in more of 1676 01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,439 Speaker 2: a firefight, even with that chin, because I don't think 1677 01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:57,599 Speaker 2: he can out box Ortiz. 1678 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he can out box or Ties either, 1679 01:22:01,160 --> 01:22:03,920 Speaker 1: certainly not over the long haul. Do I think he 1680 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,880 Speaker 1: can win key stretches. I do be see. I Lubin 1681 01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 1: is one of those guys where we kind of thought 1682 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,400 Speaker 1: when we were first, when we first start working a 1683 01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:13,120 Speaker 1: showtime together, Lubin was one of the guys that we thought, Hey, 1684 01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 1: this guy might actually turn around and do something. And 1685 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 1: he's not been some kind of dramatic failure, but he 1686 01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,280 Speaker 1: hasn't exactly fulfilled the promise. Nevertheless, part of the reason 1687 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,000 Speaker 1: why he had that promise was because I think some 1688 01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:25,680 Speaker 1: of his technical abilities he couldn't make this interesting. I 1689 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,320 Speaker 1: just feel like when Ortiz has his foot on the 1690 01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:32,880 Speaker 1: gas and he's moving downhill, we've seen Lubin not quit 1691 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,479 Speaker 1: or anything, but just get overwhelmed. And I feel like 1692 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,759 Speaker 1: that is probably what's going to happen. But would be curious, 1693 01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean if to your point me see, if Lubin 1694 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 1: got this win, this would be hugely restorative for his career. 1695 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the title holders in this division, of course, Sebastian Fondora, 1696 01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:54,639 Speaker 2: Bakra Mertizaliev, and then the two other title title holders 1697 01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 2: just signed to face each other, Xander Zaias against that 1698 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:00,200 Speaker 2: other guy that no one's ever heard of, Lou They're 1699 01:23:00,240 --> 01:23:02,679 Speaker 2: going to unify titles. It's a guy's name, a bass 1700 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,120 Speaker 2: or something like that. I don't know much about that, dude, 1701 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 2: But oddly enough, for as much as Ortiz has been 1702 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,240 Speaker 2: avoided and has never actually been in a title fight, 1703 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 2: the fight against Ennis, if he advances to it would 1704 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 2: be the biggest fight in the division between arguably the 1705 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,800 Speaker 2: two best fighters, and there wouldn't be a belt at stake. So, Luke, 1706 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,880 Speaker 2: maybe we do have a problem with these with this 1707 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,479 Speaker 2: sanctioning body bullshit. You know what I'm saying, like this 1708 01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,840 Speaker 2: is all a bunch of bullshit. Oscar de la Hoya 1709 01:23:29,880 --> 01:23:32,160 Speaker 2: at the press conference this week did challenge Boots, said, 1710 01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 2: don't even come to the fight. We know you're not 1711 01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 2: going to take the fight against orchies, and then Boots 1712 01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,519 Speaker 2: put a tweet of their of Oscar talking in a 1713 01:23:41,680 --> 01:23:45,320 Speaker 2: very a video of Oscar talking in a very zesty voice. 1714 01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:48,040 Speaker 2: Luke to sort of pile on him, But I hope 1715 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,800 Speaker 2: they make that fight if Ortiz advances in early twenty six, 1716 01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:54,360 Speaker 2: Boots versus Ortiz would be a that'd be a that'd 1717 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 2: be that's as good as he gets here in this division. 1718 01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,880 Speaker 2: But check this out on Saturday on his own. The 1719 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:01,800 Speaker 2: undercard blows, but that it's just what it ultimately is 1720 01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,599 Speaker 2: all right. Those are our five topics this week. Now 1721 01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,040 Speaker 2: we turned to some fans segments, and you can reach 1722 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,400 Speaker 2: out to our program using the email address Morningcombat at 1723 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 2: gmail dot com. Say hi to Mikey. Please no explicit photos. 1724 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:21,360 Speaker 2: It's your opportunity to complain, say hi to the show 1725 01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 2: or send in your dead wrongs and fan subs. And 1726 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,920 Speaker 2: we kick off this Friday fun segment here by by 1727 01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:32,120 Speaker 2: standing trial on Budsman style. We don't always get it right. 1728 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,240 Speaker 2: You guys are there to call us out when we 1729 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,880 Speaker 2: get it wrong, but you better have a receipt, receipt 1730 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,960 Speaker 2: and you better not be a bitch. It's called dead 1731 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:49,400 Speaker 2: wrong then wrong, all right, Long Island, Luke, you got 1732 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,200 Speaker 2: thank you on Long Island? Look a boss a boss barrow? 1733 01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,479 Speaker 2: Is that other one fifty four title? 1734 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:55,760 Speaker 3: Hold there? 1735 01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:57,080 Speaker 2: I don't even know how got the belt. Look this 1736 01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,679 Speaker 2: this sport used to be great, but now it sucks 1737 01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,040 Speaker 2: the whole. Okay, here we go the first one, Luke 1738 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:04,080 Speaker 2: from our boy Daz. 1739 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,040 Speaker 1: You know that dude, right backup on that ass and 1740 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:09,320 Speaker 1: give these motherfuckers a blast from the past. 1741 01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,960 Speaker 2: Uh Daz, says the Looha Donks on Monday's November third show. 1742 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,960 Speaker 2: There's no timestamp as I'm sending this during the live stream, 1743 01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 2: but during the end of topic three, while recapping other 1744 01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:24,760 Speaker 2: fights from the apex, BC, in discussing the man who submitted, 1745 01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:29,519 Speaker 2: Sidricus Dumas says Dakota Johnson came in six and oh 1746 01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:33,120 Speaker 2: with six first round knockouts. Maybe it was a slip 1747 01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:36,400 Speaker 2: of the tongue, or maybe BC's mind was subconsciously on 1748 01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:40,840 Speaker 2: other things, because Dakota Johnson is an actress known for 1749 01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:48,320 Speaker 2: known four fifty Shades series, whereas Dante Johnson is now 1750 01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 2: a seven to oher prospect credited with six ko's in 1751 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,479 Speaker 2: one submission. Apologies, I know this is very pedantic, as 1752 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,920 Speaker 2: always very appreciative for all the combat sports coverage in 1753 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:03,479 Speaker 2: chat live streams. So luke Dante Johnson, not Dakota Johnson. 1754 01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 2: I must have had fifty Shades on the brain. And 1755 01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:08,280 Speaker 2: did you hear that Dante Johnson was going to turn 1756 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,720 Speaker 2: around on a one week notice and be on this 1757 01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,600 Speaker 2: Saturday's card with the Nevada Commission said he's medically not 1758 01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 2: clear to return. I don't think he got touched against 1759 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:18,240 Speaker 2: Sadrikas Dumas am I wrong. 1760 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,600 Speaker 1: I think they're probably acting out of an abundance of 1761 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,400 Speaker 1: caution giving everything. You know what I mean. 1762 01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,679 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're probably right, but I did get that wrong. 1763 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,160 Speaker 2: Thank you Daz for getting up on that. As Our 1764 01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,519 Speaker 2: second one is from Simon, he says on Monday Show. 1765 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:36,360 Speaker 2: During the DMS, Luke preferred to retired MMA fighter Tom 1766 01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:40,640 Speaker 2: dukin Wha as Fireball Kid, but duken WA's nickname is 1767 01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:47,439 Speaker 2: actually fire Kid. The Fireball Kid is to take that 1768 01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,200 Speaker 2: out of Luke. Okay, all right, down longstop. 1769 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,320 Speaker 3: The ball in my way? 1770 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:52,919 Speaker 1: You understand? 1771 01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,240 Speaker 2: Okay, This one's from Mathis. He says. Hey, I'm a 1772 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 2: longtime listener but a first time emailer. And at one 1773 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 2: hour and twenty five minutes on Monday, when discussing featherweights, 1774 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 2: BC explains why there are some contenders at the top 1775 01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 2: who are still aren't known to the casual fan base. 1776 01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,799 Speaker 2: He says, quote, no one really knows about Laron Murphy, 1777 01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,160 Speaker 2: especially not until the spinning backfist. 1778 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:16,120 Speaker 4: BC. 1779 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,760 Speaker 2: If you're gonna rep French Canadia, you have to do better. 1780 01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:25,559 Speaker 2: Go rewatch the highlight. It's spinning elbow, clear as day, 1781 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:30,840 Speaker 2: elbow flush to Aaron Pico's face. Anyway, love the show, 1782 01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,000 Speaker 2: keep it up Mondays and Fridays are the best ways 1783 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:33,800 Speaker 2: to start. 1784 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 3: And end the week. 1785 01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:37,519 Speaker 2: I take that out of Luke. It's a spinning back elbow, 1786 01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:39,200 Speaker 2: but it's all spinny shit to me. 1787 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:41,439 Speaker 3: To be fair, all right, whatever I'm saying. 1788 01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 2: Our final dead wrong comes from Adam, who says, at 1789 01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 2: one six of have You Seen the Ship? BC said, 1790 01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,160 Speaker 2: never pass out at a Johnny Rockets diner. That is 1791 01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:59,200 Speaker 2: dead wrong. The place where Jake Paul's next opponent passed 1792 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,200 Speaker 2: out is that In and Out Burger, same color scheme. Though, 1793 01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,120 Speaker 2: to be fair, you probably didn't know this place because 1794 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:09,559 Speaker 2: BC only knows Arby's and Luke only knows the joseph 1795 01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 2: a Bank restroom. Love the show and the weird sexual 1796 01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:17,240 Speaker 2: tension between you two. Look, if we ever end this show, 1797 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 2: I think there's fans out there who still wanted to 1798 01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:20,479 Speaker 2: end in sex. 1799 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,400 Speaker 1: And our fans are gonna come to us like Robert 1800 01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Redford and offer to have us bang for enormous sum 1801 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 1: of money. 1802 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:30,920 Speaker 2: Just so unnecessary to be fair, I mean, it's. 1803 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,760 Speaker 1: Just not even Charlie Sheen would do it, right, Is that? 1804 01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:33,400 Speaker 1: Is that what you take? 1805 01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:33,519 Speaker 14: It? 1806 01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 2: Is true? By the way, Charlie Sheen's interview on all 1807 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,640 Speaker 2: the Smoke with with Matt Barnes and Stephen Jackson was tremendous. 1808 01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:43,120 Speaker 2: But yes, Charlie Sheen did did did cross over there 1809 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,280 Speaker 2: during his crack years. 1810 01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:45,439 Speaker 4: Luke, you know what I'm saying. 1811 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if he was ever in through the outdoor, 1812 01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:50,439 Speaker 2: but that's you know, let's go. It's a decent death 1813 01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:55,360 Speaker 2: that led Zeppel the album to be fair right it 1814 01:28:55,520 --> 01:29:05,559 Speaker 2: is full in the Rain. Okay, all right, babe, Oh yeah, right, 1815 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,160 Speaker 2: come on, well, Luke's rocking out to that. I know 1816 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 2: it right long Island, Luke. Okay, oh Luke, what is Eltie? 1817 01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:15,639 Speaker 2: Do you have a favorite led Zeppelin album or does 1818 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,280 Speaker 2: our classic rock talk stop here? 1819 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:19,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if I have a favorite album, but 1820 01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,360 Speaker 1: you know I certainly like and respect them greatly. 1821 01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,040 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that, Thank you for that. Our 1822 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,960 Speaker 2: final segment of the week allows Saoul to update you 1823 01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,719 Speaker 2: on his life and maybe we'll see the Paquette cousins 1824 01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,680 Speaker 2: back together. Hey, this one's called fan submissions. 1825 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:39,960 Speaker 1: You've got mail feures. 1826 01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:44,920 Speaker 2: Thank you Gaff Pierre for that. Speaking of Saul of 1827 01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,800 Speaker 2: Louisville fame, he says, twas the night before Halloween and 1828 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,680 Speaker 2: Arby's was on my mind. Come to find out, they 1829 01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:55,960 Speaker 2: got a Thanksgiving sandwich. Tried to go behind the dumpster 1830 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 2: to really get the full flavor, but they locked up 1831 01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:04,120 Speaker 2: the so I grabbed my whipped cream can and went home. 1832 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,880 Speaker 2: Then came Halloween and a small miracle happened. My MK 1833 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,479 Speaker 2: shirt arrived just in time to hand candy out. I 1834 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:14,560 Speaker 2: sat on my front porch and hooked up my VHS 1835 01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:18,640 Speaker 2: TV combo and watched Silence of the Lambs and Terrifire 1836 01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:22,639 Speaker 2: MK all day. Luke, who lives better than Soul? 1837 01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Seriously, a man is literally eating in the back of 1838 01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:26,679 Speaker 1: an RB's doing whipp its. 1839 01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:31,759 Speaker 2: That is that is so good, tremendo tremendous. Wow, Soul's 1840 01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,280 Speaker 2: the best, the best, the best, arguably the donk of 1841 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,320 Speaker 2: the year this year are very arguably. We'll see what 1842 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,960 Speaker 2: happens though. Our second fan sub comes from John, who 1843 01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:51,040 Speaker 2: sends a video with no comments at all. Was there 1844 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:53,599 Speaker 2: supposed to be audio there? I don't know if i's where. 1845 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 1: It's the meme where he says I'm tired balls that one. Yes, 1846 01:30:58,320 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 1: I have with the Green Mile. 1847 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 2: That's not wrong though, Okay, that's definitely not wrong. 1848 01:31:03,200 --> 01:31:05,240 Speaker 1: I can't I can't comment on that, but it may 1849 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,320 Speaker 1: there may be something to that. BC. 1850 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:12,519 Speaker 2: All right, our final fan sub comes from Andrea. Is 1851 01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:14,880 Speaker 2: Andrea a man's name? Or is this Andrea? Is this 1852 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:15,320 Speaker 2: an American? 1853 01:31:15,360 --> 01:31:17,320 Speaker 1: Iel? A woman's name? All right? 1854 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 2: She says, greetings, Long Island, Luke, DC, Luke, and ct 1855 01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:27,519 Speaker 2: E BC. I'm one of your very very very few 1856 01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 2: female viewers in a longtime fan MK since day one. 1857 01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,280 Speaker 2: I've been following Luke since twenty seventeen, and I even 1858 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,800 Speaker 2: laugh at BC's dad jokes save to say I should 1859 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:42,600 Speaker 2: probably seek therapy and I desperately need a life. The 1860 01:31:42,760 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 2: three twenty one pregame preview with the always brilliant Chuck 1861 01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:50,880 Speaker 2: Mindenhall inspired me to this classic meme, hoping to make 1862 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,680 Speaker 2: you guys laugh like you've been making me laugh over 1863 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,000 Speaker 2: the years, Luke, what does this say? 1864 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,600 Speaker 1: They're talking about your phone cover and they're doing a 1865 01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,400 Speaker 1: Forrest Gump bit where he was talking about it was 1866 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:08,240 Speaker 1: Chuck's most Chucks. I apologize and it's Brook Trout Lake 1867 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,240 Speaker 1: trout Cut wrote trout Rainbow trout That's about it. 1868 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:13,519 Speaker 14: Uh. 1869 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,439 Speaker 2: She would close hear Andrea by saying, all the best 1870 01:32:16,479 --> 01:32:21,479 Speaker 2: of you, donks, greeting from Austria. It's Andrea, and I 1871 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,920 Speaker 2: would love to hear Luke trying to pronounce my name 1872 01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:33,000 Speaker 2: in German, she says, Strudel. Is there a special pronunciation 1873 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 2: for Andrea in German? 1874 01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,799 Speaker 1: I don't. I couldn't. I couldn't even fake a German 1875 01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know how to do that. 1876 01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:43,400 Speaker 2: Look, would you have consummated with Andrea from Beverly Hills 1877 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,760 Speaker 2: now two and oh even though she was in her 1878 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 2: mid thirties playing a high school teenager? Yeah, I was 1879 01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:50,720 Speaker 2: the one with the glasses who had the heart on 1880 01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:51,360 Speaker 2: for Brandon. 1881 01:32:51,439 --> 01:32:54,439 Speaker 1: By the way, I drove through Austria once in two 1882 01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,639 Speaker 1: thousand and one. It is a beautiful country. 1883 01:32:57,200 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 2: I would assume. Did you see Arnold's house where he 1884 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 2: was born? 1885 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:03,240 Speaker 1: And well, no, no, I didn't get down there, but 1886 01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:04,639 Speaker 1: it's on the list. 1887 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:06,479 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, good stuff. 1888 01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:06,680 Speaker 14: There. 1889 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 2: Those are our fan submissions. You can reach out at 1890 01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:12,599 Speaker 2: Morningcombat at gmail dot com if you want to make 1891 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:15,640 Speaker 2: fan submissions great again, or just make us laugh or 1892 01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,200 Speaker 2: show us your kids. Whatever you do, we're here for you, 1893 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:22,240 Speaker 2: all right, thank you very much. Final reminder, November merch 1894 01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,200 Speaker 2: is fresh, it's hot, it's ready, it's exclusive. 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Are you 1908 01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,400 Speaker 2: currently crowning like the King of England? 1909 01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:15,880 Speaker 5: No? 1910 01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 1: I went before the show. 1911 01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,280 Speaker 2: Okay, you're you're more in like your Prince Andrew Era 1912 01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 2: right now? 1913 01:34:22,080 --> 01:34:23,600 Speaker 1: Didn't he just get like, I don't know what the 1914 01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,080 Speaker 1: word is, but like defrocked or whatever for it is, 1915 01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:27,760 Speaker 1: for deroyaled, whatever it is for that. 1916 01:34:27,920 --> 01:34:30,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't because yeah, in that country they took seriously 1917 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:32,920 Speaker 2: his connections to that man, Luke. 1918 01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:36,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, probably also them just realizing it's eventually the stuff's 1919 01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:37,800 Speaker 1: gonna get out and it's gonna make him look bad, 1920 01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,120 Speaker 1: so I might as well cut ties now. 1921 01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,759 Speaker 2: You know, as well just get him out of the fielding. 1922 01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,000 Speaker 2: So he was married to Fergie, right. 1923 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,720 Speaker 1: That's why I understand that. But you know, there are 1924 01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:50,519 Speaker 1: people who obsess about the royals, and I think that's lame, 1925 01:34:50,840 --> 01:34:51,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 1926 01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, they as I told you when I toured 1927 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:57,880 Speaker 2: Buckingham Palace and was making Prince Harry jokes like you know, 1928 01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,519 Speaker 2: that's my Prince, they did. The people I work there, 1929 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,679 Speaker 2: they were not happy. 1930 01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 1: Much like the DC employees. They found you not very 1931 01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: charming at all. 1932 01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that they were not ready for that level of humor. 1933 01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,479 Speaker 2: But you know, shout out to Prince Harry just the same. 1934 01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:15,479 Speaker 2: All right, let's say goodbye to our producer director here 1935 01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,880 Speaker 2: Long Island, Luke. You know his podcast The Main Card Minute. 1936 01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:23,720 Speaker 2: You know his program called prop Quiz. When does this air? 1937 01:35:24,760 --> 01:35:27,280 Speaker 4: Fifty minutes on the dock? Guys, tune in over a 1938 01:35:27,320 --> 01:35:30,040 Speaker 4: Main Card Minute, Danny Sigura versus Jose Young's It's a 1939 01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,800 Speaker 4: banger back and forth matchup. Tune in to see who 1940 01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,439 Speaker 4: faces Bend the Pain. Also full card watch along tomorrow 1941 01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,920 Speaker 4: four pm Eastern Time, Tuner with Gaffney with Gaffney, my boy, 1942 01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:40,960 Speaker 4: let's go. 1943 01:35:41,439 --> 01:35:43,840 Speaker 1: That's great stuff, you think BC. Let me ask you 1944 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 1: think that. Do you think Long Island's ever going to 1945 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:45,880 Speaker 1: get married? 1946 01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:46,679 Speaker 3: Yes? 1947 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I do, Yes, I do. I've never met his 1948 01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,760 Speaker 2: lady though, no Cea, you won't bring her on the show. 1949 01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:53,639 Speaker 2: That's never gonna. 1950 01:35:53,439 --> 01:35:56,439 Speaker 4: Happen, right, I feel like she would gladly come on 1951 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:56,760 Speaker 4: the show. 1952 01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm not going, really why because my wife is like, no, go, 1953 01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,560 Speaker 2: do not talk about me, do not show me on 1954 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 2: the show. 1955 01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:03,760 Speaker 1: My wife's the same. 1956 01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,320 Speaker 4: Well, see, I like how you guys keep your your 1957 01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:08,679 Speaker 4: wives separate. So that's kind of what I always thought 1958 01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,439 Speaker 4: I would do. But she's always like, oh come on. 1959 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, chill, okay. 1960 01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:16,040 Speaker 2: I mean LT we should set this up, right, we should? 1961 01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? I would. I would like to. I would like 1962 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:18,479 Speaker 1: to interview her. 1963 01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:23,479 Speaker 2: Now, would you rather interview her or his Australian father her? 1964 01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,679 Speaker 1: Okay? He probably ignores both of them in equal amounts, 1965 01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:29,599 Speaker 1: but the lady's going to have better. 1966 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:31,800 Speaker 4: Stories, I think, Yeah, I think if she leaves me 1967 01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 4: after the interview, like, do I get any compensation for that? 1968 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:39,840 Speaker 1: You had a coming, fella, you had it coming, all 1969 01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:40,760 Speaker 1: the merch you can wear? 1970 01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:44,840 Speaker 2: How about that? There you go, LT We're ending early today. 1971 01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:45,680 Speaker 3: It is what it is. 1972 01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:48,400 Speaker 2: Do you have any messages of hope to the listeners 1973 01:36:48,439 --> 01:36:49,439 Speaker 2: out there you want to like you? 1974 01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:52,679 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. We greatly appreciate you as you've 1975 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 1: seen you can you know, follow like the show, all 1976 01:36:55,240 --> 01:36:57,599 Speaker 1: kinds of fun stuff there. I will not have life 1977 01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,640 Speaker 1: coverage on Saturday, but I will have some coverage on 1978 01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:02,880 Speaker 1: Sunday about the main event, probably unless anything other strange 1979 01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:06,120 Speaker 1: shit happens, but hopefully it does not, and then I'll 1980 01:37:06,160 --> 01:37:08,519 Speaker 1: see you on Monday. By the way, my kid is 1981 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:12,360 Speaker 1: off from school on Monday and fing Tuesday, and my 1982 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:17,000 Speaker 1: wife BC is leaving for a business trip on Saturday. 1983 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:21,400 Speaker 1: And remember, because our government is not functioning quite rightly, 1984 01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 1: the all three DC airports BWI, Reagan, and Dulles are 1985 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:32,760 Speaker 1: all having flights canceled or limited. So fun times, fun times. 1986 01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good luck to your wife on her travels. 1987 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:38,759 Speaker 2: And hopefully we get Monday's remote show with some Twoki appearances. 1988 01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:40,720 Speaker 1: It'd be great. I'm not putting two key on the 1989 01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:41,240 Speaker 1: air anymore. 1990 01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:44,160 Speaker 2: No, look, obviously she'll put herself on the air. I mean, 1991 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:45,040 Speaker 2: this is how it happens. 1992 01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:46,639 Speaker 1: Let's be fair, fair enough. Okay. 1993 01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:48,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got that Reggie Jackson in there. 1994 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,479 Speaker 1: She just she storms in like ice looking for you know, 1995 01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:52,559 Speaker 1: hard working dads. 1996 01:37:52,960 --> 01:37:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, good stuff right there. All right, folks, next week, 1997 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,160 Speaker 2: of course, you have C three twenty two next Thursday, 1998 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,160 Speaker 2: eleven am Eastern. It's pregame review with Oscar Wilde. 1999 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:02,200 Speaker 3: Do not miss that one. 2000 01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,559 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a great time. We'll see you back 2001 01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,639 Speaker 2: on Monday to recap it all and set the stage 2002 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,120 Speaker 2: for the week to come. Seriously, watch Orchies lubin Saturday 2003 01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:12,840 Speaker 2: on his own. It's gonna be a banger. It's gonna 2004 01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:17,080 Speaker 2: be fun times. Sometimes boxing still matters, but not that often. 2005 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:21,400 Speaker 2: For all my coworkers here on the show, lt L. 2006 01:38:21,479 --> 01:38:24,120 Speaker 2: I L the great Matt Snyder, right, great, great guy 2007 01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:24,960 Speaker 2: behind the scenes. 2008 01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:25,800 Speaker 1: Have met him. 2009 01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:29,479 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Campbell. Take care of yourselves. Have a great weekend, folks. 2010 01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:33,320 Speaker 2: All right, paint right, paint, let's go. Let's get out there. Okay, 2011 01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:36,000 Speaker 2: let's do it. We out peace here it is