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Speaker 3: But enough with that, let's get to the show. Hello everybody,

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Speaker 3: Happy Friday. We are coming to you with an immediate

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Speaker 3: reaction to some major developments between Israel and the United States.

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Speaker 3: So let's go ahead and put this up there on

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Speaker 3: the screen. Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln is present today

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Speaker 3: in Israel, where he met with the Israeli war cabinet

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Speaker 3: and asked for a series of quote humanitarian pauses. However,

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Speaker 3: developments almost immediately after showed that he was very coldly rejected.

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Speaker 3: Even while he was still inside of Israel, I'm reading here,

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Speaker 3: Secretary of State Anthony blincon urged Israel to protect the

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Speaker 3: palest Indian civilians in Gaza and allow more humanitarian aid. However,

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Speaker 3: soon after meeting with mister Blincoln, Prime Minister Netanyah, who

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Speaker 3: appeared to rebuff the Biden administration's call for a series

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Speaker 3: of humanitarian pauses to allow these more deliveries of aid. Netsaya,

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Speaker 3: who said any ceasefire is contingent on the release of

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Speaker 3: Israeli hostages who were abducted on October seventh, saying, quote,

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Speaker 3: I have made clear we are continuing forcefully the Israel

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Speaker 3: refuses a temporary ceasefire that does not include the release

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Speaker 3: of our hostages held by Hamas. He also stood fast

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Speaker 3: on the Israeli refusal to let fuel inside of Gaza,

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Speaker 3: saying that these shipments and fuel are being used by

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Speaker 3: Hamas for military operation. So this is obviously on the

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Speaker 3: heels of this major new diplomatic salvo after this announced

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Speaker 3: by President Biden where he called for a humanitarian pause.

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Speaker 3: We brought everybody the news on Thursday. It also comes

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Speaker 3: in what is probably best described as a series of

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Speaker 3: covery or ass maneuvers. We can put this quote please

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Speaker 3: up on the screen from NBC News was quote a

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Speaker 3: senior US official who is saying, on background, quote, if

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Speaker 3: this goes really bad, we want to be able to

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Speaker 3: point to our past statements. The official said. The administration

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Speaker 3: is particularly worried about a narrative taking hold that Biden

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Speaker 3: supports all Israeli military actions and that the US provided

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Speaker 3: weapons have been used to kill Palestinian civilians, many of

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Speaker 3: the women and children. The Defense Department has said the

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Speaker 3: US is not putting any limits or restrictions on the

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Speaker 3: weapons it is providing to Israel. So crystal, the Biden

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Speaker 3: administration is waking up to the growing backlash across the

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Speaker 3: Middle East. Hezbolo leader in Ozrela spoke today, didn't officially

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Speaker 3: declare war on Israel, but did call for a continuation

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Speaker 3: of hostilities. We don't yet know how that is going

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Speaker 3: to materialize, but overall, a pretty humiliating rejection of a

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Speaker 3: Secretary of State Lincoln in Israel, basically an outright smack

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Speaker 3: in the face because he was still in the country

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Speaker 3: when they were actually openly violating what he want to

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Speaker 2: Utterly humiliating and utterly unsurprising because Yaho and Israeli they

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Speaker 2: don't care about our words. There isn't any threat to

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Speaker 2: withhold AID coming along with these new strong words about

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Speaker 2: how they want a humanitarian pause, which is like a

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Speaker 2: made up thing to start with, Like okay, we'll pause,

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Speaker 2: we'll stop bombing your kids for however long, and then

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Speaker 2: we'll go back to bombing your kids. Like, you know,

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Speaker 2: the real ask here, the real demand is a ceasefire,

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Speaker 2: which we're starting to see increase in calls. We've saw

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Speaker 2: Dick Durbin was the first United States Senator to come

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Speaker 2: out and call for a ceasefire. So you can see

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Speaker 2: the pressure really building. I mean, the other thing about

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Speaker 2: that quote that you cited their saga is just extraordinary,

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Speaker 2: how naked, like in reaction to you've now had one

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Speaker 2: Like those are the numbers which are astonishing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I when you apply it to the American public, you're

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Speaker 2: talking about if it was proportional, it would be over

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Speaker 2: a million Americans killed. Okay, that's what we're talking about

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Speaker 2: in terms of how many have been slaughtered in Gaza

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Speaker 2: at this point. And your concern about that is like,

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Speaker 2: and we're worried that there this might go badly. It's

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Speaker 2: like it's already going badly. It's already a disaster. And

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Speaker 2: they're you know, getting ready to send to right now

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Speaker 2: in this particular moment. You send your secretary's state over there,

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Speaker 2: and he's like, no, we're not going to do that.

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Speaker 2: And not only that, put this up on the screen.

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Speaker 2: Israel bombed a convoy of ambulances outside Alshifa Hospital. That's

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Speaker 2: according to Al Jazeera. So I want to be clear,

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Speaker 2: we're still getting the details about how many casualties, what

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Speaker 2: where do you remember this, saturn Net and Yahoo released

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Speaker 1: They have to evacuate. So here you have.

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Speaker 2: This convoy of ambulances of the critical critically wounded trying

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Speaker 1: And this is what was hit And this is.

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Speaker 2: Where all of the you know, the new casualties and injuries,

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Speaker 2: et cetera are And this happens right after this meeting

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Speaker 2: where Tony Blincoln is calling for humanitarian pauses.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there is like our words.

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Speaker 2: Mean nothing at this point without coming with using our

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Speaker 2: actual leverage. And they've already heard everything they need to

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Speaker 2: hear from us, which is we were one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: with you. We stand with you know what, matter what,

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Speaker 2: and we're not drawing a single red line. So that's,

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Speaker 2: you know, we sort of made this bed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, from what I can tell, as you said, on

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Speaker 3: the Israelis are claiming that this is a hotbed of

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Speaker 2: Again, we don't know international, but I just want to say.

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Speaker 2: International doctors who worked at that hospital for years say

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Speaker 2: they do not believe that that is true. They've seen

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Speaker 2: absolutely no evidence of that. But even so, even if

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Speaker 2: you accept their you know, computer generation hamas terror you

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Speaker 2: know offices, under the hospital situation, they were trying to

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Speaker 2: do exactly what you ask They're trying to evacuate these

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Speaker 3: This is the issue for Israel. I mean there are

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Speaker 3: according to the IDF, they are actually inside the city

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Speaker 3: Israeli casualties also are beginning to increase. We've gotten more

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Speaker 3: It's just killed, not even terms of wounded. So as.

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Speaker 3: I also saw actually a callback to Vietnam, their images

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Speaker 3: This is complete nightmare. They're three hundred miles remember tunnels,

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Speaker 3: are very very much getting to the beginning of this.

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Speaker 3: The overall death toll, again, who knows for sure. The

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Speaker 3: vast majority women and children. They've actually put out names

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Speaker 3: Journalists are trying to go through in fact.

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Speaker 1: Check Ryan Ryan has done.

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Speaker 2: Ryan actually did an analysis cross checking the family members

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Speaker 2: they know were killed with the names on this list,

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Speaker 2: and actually it undercounted the names. Some of the family

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Speaker 2: it does appear that that number is largely accurate. In fact,

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Speaker 2: the fear is because there are so many people that

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Speaker 2: still thousands of people who are trapped under rubble. It

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Speaker 2: and we also know that the toll is overwhelmingly civilian.

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Speaker 2: You know, it is largely women and children who are

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Speaker 2: that's where we are right now. And just to pick up,

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Speaker 2: which is in order for Hesbela to keep their kind

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Speaker 2: like they're standing up for the Palestinians. But they also

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Speaker 2: have to think about the domestic population in Lebanon. Lebanon

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Speaker 2: excited about being staging around for another front of this war.

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Speaker 2: So you know, that may be part of why this

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Speaker 2: was mostly just bluster and not an active engagement, and

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Speaker 2: we can all be relieved about that, but the danger

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Speaker 1: I have the.

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Speaker 3: Direct translated quote here from the Wall Street Journal. For

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Speaker 3: the region, I say, wait, these are the beginnings from Nosrela.

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Speaker 3: More actions will be taken against Israel from several different fronts.

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Speaker 3: This issue will become more obvious in the next few days.

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Speaker 3: He also praised the Iranian backed attacks on US forces

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Speaker 3: in Iraq and Syria. So this is not a declaration

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Speaker 3: of war, but it is, you know, just a continuation

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Speaker 3: of ongoing military action, which the danger always is you

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Speaker 3: never know when one of those is going to pop

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Speaker 3: off and is going to significantly affect the major geopolitical situation.

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Speaker 3: So that's pretty much the update that we have for

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Speaker 3: everybody so far. It's the biggest diplomatic development I taking

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Speaker 3: the last couple of days. Of course, the Secretary of

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Speaker 3: b Lincoln's first trip to the region after the cancelation

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Speaker 3: of that Middle East summit with President Biden. And it's

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Speaker 3: the latest round of shuttle diplomacy, which has been a

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Speaker 3: failure so far. So anything, Dad, Crystal before we go?

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Speaker 2: No, I think that pretty much sums it up. Utter

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Speaker 2: humiliation for Tony Blincoln and Joe Biden in Israel.

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Speaker 3: There we go, all right, We'll see you guys later