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Uh, we've we've done a lot from the 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:30.920 studios and Senior Bowls and you know, all kinds of 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:33.720 thing combines. But it's good to be here. As the 0:01:33.760 --> 0:01:36.840 big voice guy said, we have David Hellman with us, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:39.520 who's always and then but sitting in for Dane Brugler 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.039 today and again thoughts and prayers with Dan Brugler and 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.160 his family. He is his grandmother passed away. He'll be 0:01:45.200 --> 0:01:48.200 back tonight and be with us for draft coverage for 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.520 the weekend. But our good scouting buddy are my good 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.120 scouting buddy, David Helman's good scouting buddy. Two Jeff Kavanaugh 0:01:55.240 --> 0:01:57.720 sitting in Welcome, Welcome, my friends. Sixth of the year. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:02.120 Oh you know which, what's even better about at might 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:04.840 be the sixth man? What's even seventh? What's even better 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.800 about you? As you're actually a Miller Lite spokesman. Yes 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.800 I am, which makes a shirt on. I'm gonna have 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.040 three over the course of these two hours it's gonna 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:13.680 be great. Yeah, And that's always fun to sit here 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.680 and talk draft with you, and so thank you so 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.760 much for sitting in again. Thoughts and prayers with Dame 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:22.200 Brugler as we um as we go forward here. I'm 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:24.760 always excited to work with Dave and somewhat excited to 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.160 work with you. I know it's because you're tired of me. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.720 You're tired of me yelling at you is actually what 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.320 the problem is with it. I'm nice. I'm nice to Jeff. Yeah, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:34.520 you are, You're very nice. Nice sir. All right, let's 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.640 dive into this thing. You know, we had Stephen Jones 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:40.000 and Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett talking today to the 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:42.679 media about some things. I don't know if we got 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:45.720 very much out of that. And you know, Stephen Jones, Dave, 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:48.520 I think you were talking about I'll direct my questions 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:51.840 to Stephen Jones, and if I want answers about the draft, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.200 that's who I'm going to. Just that's that's the reality 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:58.600 of the modern situation. But Jerry might slip Yeah, that's 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:00.880 what Steven's not gonna slip on you. Well, I'll tell you. 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.200 I'll tell you a slip on Jerry then today and 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.080 it's gonna marve you. One of my questions about the 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:08.440 bomb slip. No, that was really a nice job at 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:10.840 the station three. Your boys kind of got that one 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.040 taking car button. We had the dumb but but let 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.760 me ask you this, Okay, Well, I'm gonna ask you 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:17.320 some questions kind of what we learned about today, you 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.919 know this talking or listening to Jerry Jones talk about 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.440 the draft and Stephen Jones. And this is a question 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.480 I have for you to start this thing off. Okay, 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:28.520 do the cowboys like Vitavea more than they like Calvin 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.400 Ridley or DJ Moore? He took that right out of 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:35.520 my Twitter lineup, which I think that was it? Okay, 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.840 was that surprising to start out with? I mean the 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:42.200 love that Jerry, but he obviously didn't say him by name, 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.600 but man, if he wasn't he was talking to Vita, 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.360 he had to have been right. And heaved the defensive 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:49.760 tackle from the University of Washington, right, I mean the 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.840 ballerina truck. That's that's a ballerina truck. I like that. Yeah, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.560 it's a good I mean, Jerry, Jerry will slip up 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.440 on you and give you a little more information than 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.680 maybe you were looking for, which that totally happen and 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.000 you kind of sit up and you're like, whoah, yeah, hey, 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:05.320 and how about that round? Everybody a doubt at the 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:08.480 at the Star though, when immediately they're talking about tackle 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.640 where they show the clips or TV guys all putting 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:12.880 up Vita vea cliss like that. I'm gonna go back 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:15.600 to what I've been saying since January, which is that 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:17.400 I'll believe it when I see it. What do you 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:20.080 think about that? He's he thinks to quick name the 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.640 last defensive tackle the Cowboys drafted in the first round. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:25.560 You can, actually you can go ahead and name him. Well, 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.000 if it happened in nineteen ninety one, it was Russell 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.080 mary Russell Maryland nineteen nine when I was an infant. Yeah, 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:32.640 you can ask when's the last time they took a 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.880 one technique in the first six rounds? That's a good 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.320 you want to go a decade and a half to 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:38.800 find it. They just don't pick them. But do they 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.280 see this guy differently? Though? They might? And if I'm 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.920 not I'm not I think they probably do too. Yeah, 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.599 you watch the dude's tape and he just throws people 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.640 around like he can watch the Stanford game and they 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:52.720 just Stephen Jones. Actually he contributed to that, and he 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.680 was like, focus on pressure and I mean you watch 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.960 VTA like that dude can pressure a quarterback. So I'm 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.200 not saying it's impossible. In fact, I think it's somewhat. 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.000 I don't want to say likely. But if you're making 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.040 a short list of possibilities, I think Vita veay and 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.680 needs to be on it. But like I just I 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:10.839 gotta see it to believe it. I can't. I can't 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.960 just say that he's going to be the pick because 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:16.080 there's twenty five years of history that say he's not. 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.160 Let me attack it this way by asking more questions, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:20.880 because that's what we end up doing, right. It's a 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.200 lot of fun. Yeah. So when I've kicked this around 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:25.960 and tried to create what I think is the perfect 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.280 Cowboys draft, a lot of times I'm actually settling on 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:33.800 an offensive lineman at nineteen because if you have to today, 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.160 if you have to split hairs between Calvin Ridley and 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.279 Dj Moore, and when you're talking about the wide receivers, 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:42.600 we also really like a few other guys, whether it's 0:05:42.640 --> 0:05:45.919 Courtland Sutton, at SMU, Anthony Miller at Memphis, Michael Gallup, 0:05:45.960 --> 0:05:48.520 Colorado State, whatever it is, so you might have an 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.080 opportunity to pick them again. Yeah, at nineteen, whichever offensive 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:53.880 lineman I want, I'm not going to have another shot 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:57.240 at somebody like that. At fifty, I don't think is 0:05:57.360 --> 0:05:59.920 vta vel like that? Are you going to have another chance? 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.400 You'll have another chance to take a nose that can 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:04.800 help you, But will you get anything like that? If 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:08.720 you don't take him, you're not There're not gonna get 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:11.640 a guy like Vita anywhere else, even if you get 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:13.640 a defensive tackle. So does that make the case for 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:16.600 Vita over a receiver that you're not gonna he's gone? 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.560 That I kind of guy's gone. I think you can 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.400 substitute linebacker and you're having the same conversation what I 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.320 don't like about linebacker, And we'll I'm sure we'll talk 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.480 about this a lot. I don't like my choices. Yeah, 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.560 I like my choices at receiver. I like my choices 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.160 on O line. I like my choices at a lot 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:31.480 of places. I don't like my choices at linebacker. Actually, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:33.919 you have not come off that, Oh, lineman, you and 0:06:34.040 --> 0:06:35.960 KT and have not come on. I think when you 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.440 get there, if James Daniels is on the board, the 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:41.000 Iowa center slash guard and we'll get in, you get 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.240 a mock draft. Yeah right, If right into that, If 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:45.640 Isaiah Winn is there, the Georgia left tackle that can 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.400 play guard and has played guard, they'll probably be the 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:50.680 best player on my board. Yea, Rashaun Evans or Layton 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.320 Vanderesh won't be my number one player at nineteen. That's 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.760 what I don't like. Yeah, no, I hear you. But 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.000 that's the position and we know that need plays a 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.320 bigger role than in people want to admit. Yes, it's 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:03.520 just but's where if if you feel like their stack, 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:05.359 if you had to look at their stack, if you 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:07.960 had to guess their stack, how would you think they 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:12.280 have it? Is Vita Vea over more Ridley, even Vanderish. 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.200 I have a hard time seeing it because he's a 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.080 nose and I do think he's more than a nose, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.000 and I think they do too. And I'm glad you 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:19.960 phrased it that way because that's the point, Like I 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:23.560 think they put him on the short list. I can't, 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:25.960 I just I can't go all the way there thinking 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:29.040 he would be like their number one guy. Again, when 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:31.880 there's twenty five years of experience with this ownership that 0:07:32.000 --> 0:07:34.120 says that that's not how they roll. Yeah, but they 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.080 remember a time and they didn't take offensive tackles either. Yeah, 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.400 and all of a sudden they're drafting tackles or drafting 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:43.360 guards or drafted centers. You know. I mean, maybe this 0:07:43.520 --> 0:07:45.640 is maybe it's just a thing that kind of helps 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:47.880 them with the mic linebacker problems that they might have. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.480 I mean, and I feel like I need to repeat 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.760 that I've said it before. Oh you have. But like 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.200 people think I don't like Vita Vea because I just 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.800 keep saying no, I don't. No, it's it's not that 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:00.560 I don't like them, is that I don't think they'll 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.920 draft him. But I think that's a good point. I 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.600 think he helps your linebackers, he helps your defensive line. Like, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.080 I think it would be a great pick. I just 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:10.800 can't convince myself that they would do it. Small move 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.360 up remembered Stephen Jones was talking about up for James 0:08:14.880 --> 0:08:17.640 never drafted in the first round before. That would be 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:21.000 that would be fun. He's a visit. He is so 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.720 big dude. By that I mean, obviously, who who do 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.640 have a better shot of trading up for They have 0:08:26.680 --> 0:08:29.400 a better shot at him or James Derwin, Derwin James, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.560 Vita vey or Derwin James a better shot in terms 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.319 of who is a realistic option or who would they 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.200 do it for realistic option. It's way more realistic that 0:08:38.320 --> 0:08:42.439 Vida Veya falls into that range than Derwin James. That's 0:08:42.840 --> 0:08:44.959 that's kind of what we saw yesterday. I'm not buying 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.360 the Draft week smoke that he's falling, by the way 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.560 like he's gonna be on. He's a top ten. Come. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:53.319 The guys have talked to you around the league, guys 0:08:53.320 --> 0:08:55.520 have talked to in scouts, not just I'm not talking 0:08:55.520 --> 0:08:58.760 about talking to there's guys around, guys and out talking 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:01.400 about real real general Andrew guy. People around the league 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:04.079 think Baker Mayfield's going number one to Cleveland too. I 0:09:04.120 --> 0:09:07.440 don't watching. I don't buy it. Oh, Jeff would love that. 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.640 Why you hate Don Baker? Do you know who has 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.760 the highest rated college season of all? Why are you 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:14.480 trying to Who do you think it is? Who do 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:17.240 you think it is? Probably Baker? Whose second? Baker may 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.880 both Bankers? Yeah? I don't care. So yeah, all the 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.200 sooner faithful in the crowd. Here, I'll all right, here 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.199 we go. My next question for you guys, and again, 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:29.840 so you're saying that to answer the question that think 0:09:30.000 --> 0:09:32.520 not higher than the receivers on the Davey and needs 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.120 to be on your radar. But I cannot convince myself 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:42.560 that they'll pick him and wiped out. Vander Esh is gone. Vanderesh, 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:44.880 he's gone. Vanderesh and Evans are both going to be gone. 0:09:45.120 --> 0:09:48.360 Because fours aren't going on the top eighteen, then they 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.959 won't be wiped out. Yeah, I I I will happen. 0:09:52.000 --> 0:09:53.840 I'll be there with you if oh no, you're gonna 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:55.640 die on that hill with me. If he's the pick, 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.199 I will eat all of the crow. I'll eat it all. Yeah, 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.880 it'll look like an episode address. It'll behind Jeff Crowe 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:05.080 goes good with Miller's it's a good point. My next 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:08.200 question is, yeah, it goes excellent millerlete by the way, Okay, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.120 what projected first round pick makes you the most nervous 0:10:12.440 --> 0:10:17.520 Layton Vanderesh or Courtland Sudden guy is good questions? I'll well, 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:23.520 I'll yes, no, Courtland Sutton, Courtland, Courtland Sutton because he 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.520 strikes me, is this guy knows receivers. Now, I'm interested 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:28.480 to see what he says. He strikes me as a problem. 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:31.120 He's getting ready. Hey, how about how about the conversation 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.280 going back to the press conference today that the Jones 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:36.560 and Jason Garrett had about are you drafting the receiver 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:38.560 who can help you the most on September ninth at 0:10:38.559 --> 0:10:40.480 Carolina or are you drafting the guy that's going to 0:10:40.520 --> 0:10:42.120 be a stud in four or five years? Sure? And 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:44.400 I think it's interesting that they said four to five 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.720 years because they're talking about first round picks, and so 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.760 I'm sitting there thinking like they're talking about more Slash 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.439 Ridley verse Courtland Sutton. I think Vanderesh helps you more 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.839 on day one. Yes, it's especially here, I think because 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.320 you're starting middle linebacker. Do you agree with me that 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:04.599 Vander has a higher floor because I mean, no, you 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:06.679 don't think so. No, I don't love him, But what 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:08.599 if what I love him? What if Courtland Sutton is 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:11.280 when he gets drafted, you're gonna be the one that 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.840 gets blamed. Now, this is a double bust factor. Vanderesh 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:18.200 has a Bobby Carpenter bus factor, has a treadwell bust factor. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.640 They've got it. You can't just throw that name around, 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:23.160 Carrol can It's a two hundred and fifty pound guy 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.280 that measured as an incredible athlete that when we watched 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:26.840 him play, we thought he was lighting the butt and 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.800 wasn't a physical player. I'll tell you what. He makes 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.280 some points about the take on stuff. I mean, everybody goes, oh, 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:34.560 go watch the Organ tape, and I'm like, Organ's not 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.000 blocking him. Crosby's blocking somebody else and not blocking vander Esh, 0:11:38.120 --> 0:11:39.760 you know, and Vanderesh is make it play. Now, you 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.840 got to give him credit for that. He's making play. 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:44.480 I think it's a great comparison because they both scare 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:47.400 me in the same way. And that Courtland Sutton you 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.160 watch him play in the fifty fifty ball. Yeah, the 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:54.040 I'm not talking straight line speed, but the quickness and 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.319 the agility for a guy of his size, it's awesome. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.439 Courtland Sutton ceiling is holy cowhigh. It's super high. No, 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.439 you're not wrong, but he's to me, he's not ready 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:07.560 coming from that offense. It was so screen or fly 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:10.839 and you're expecting vander Ish to play now he has 0:12:10.880 --> 0:12:13.680 to and Courtland Sutton you're kind of like everybody's gonna 0:12:13.679 --> 0:12:15.720 go Okay, it's kind of like Taco last year. Yeah, 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.120 week nine, when's it gonna start playing? When's you gotta 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:20.200 you know, when's that gonna happen? Sutton has gone for him, 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.120 as Jerry said at the press conference today, that they 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.440 don't feel like they have the X to replace Dez. 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.480 So we don't feel like we have that X to 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:31.120 replace Des. Courtland Sutton is your prototype X over under 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.240 twenty five catches for Courtland Sutton if he gets drafted 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:38.280 nineteenth overall over, you're going over. Yeah, I'd go over 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:40.520 thirty five. If you take him at nineteen, you gotta 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.880 get him out there, do you? I think maybe half 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.040 not maybe not for one hundred percent of the snaps, 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:47.960 but fifty sixty. I just I don't want it. No 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:52.200 projects hashtag no projects in twenty eight even then, don't 0:12:52.200 --> 0:12:56.840 pick vander Esh So you feel feel you feel worse 0:12:56.880 --> 0:12:59.000 about Vanderish than you do. Said, I would have him 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.319 both if I made a time fifty like you did. Yeah, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:03.480 they'd probably both be in the forties for me. Okay, 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.000 So they're like it's close. They're both guys that if 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.920 they're on my team. I'm excited about how good they 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.600 can potentially be. Yeah, but I'm also nervous about the 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.079 things that I don't love about them. Tough choice, Hunt, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:18.400 It is a tough choice. I see your next question too, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.079 and that's a tough Let me ask you a question. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:22.560 We did this yesterday. Kat was with us on the 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:23.960 draft show. I hope you had a chance to go 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.160 back and watch us. We did the mock draft for 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.240 the Cowboys. We didn't make a move, Helm and Kat 0:13:29.400 --> 0:13:32.440 and I decided to stay at fifty and not go 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:36.559 to go to Indianapolis at thirty seven, thirty seven, thirty six, 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.760 thirty seven, they got back to back picks. Yeah, so 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:40.800 we just we waited on it. What were you going 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:43.440 to thirty seven four? The Portland Sutton? We were trying 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:45.520 to pick the Cowboys. We were doing the Cowboys stuff. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.079 We were trying to get the thirty seven to get 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.559 to get that player. It would have cost us eighty 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.480 one to do it on the trip. What we we 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.920 We We got band of band late, We got your boy. Yeah, 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.880 that's I'm saying. So we're gonna get vander Esh and 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:01.520 Sutton and not have a Yeah? Yeah, how do you 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.160 feel about that. Yeah, I love it. I love it 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.800 so much. It could be too much. But should we 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.440 have gone by sitting there? We ended up with Anthony Miller? 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.880 Oh you did better sitting there? Okay? And we went 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.480 all the way down though, and if we'd waited a 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:17.840 little bit further, James Washington went like a ninety two 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.880 ninety six somewhere right around there to Pittsburgh. Is that 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.040 I don't love Washington, but at eighty one, I'm very 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:26.640 interested in Washington. Um. I think the key here is 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.640 you're saying for them, like, what would they do? Right? 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.640 Because I think they would obviously probably prefer Cortland Sutton 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:34.640 over Anthony Miller. We wouldn't, I wouldn't. Do you think 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:39.080 he's there at fifty then Miller? Sutton? No, No, I 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:41.760 think he's probably one of the top three receivers off 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.600 the board. Okay, So all of a sudden, here we go, 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.200 get ready, that's that there there, and they're gonna start 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:48.600 running in the second which, well, see what we swin 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:50.280 our mock draft though the way we did it, the 0:14:50.320 --> 0:14:53.200 way it played out, more corners went than receivers. We 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.960 were kind of thinking. I was thinking, I know, I 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.280 was I was thinking more about, Okay, there were gonna 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.320 be more corners, us gonna be more receiver. Let's go 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:02.720 in the top of the drafted being corners that were 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:05.360 going off the bat butt. You have seven corners in 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.360 the first two rounds something like that. Yeah, somewhere around 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:13.240 seven wide receiver probably six or seven. Yeah, they're gonna go. Yeah, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.880 they're gonna go. Just the way it fell, it was 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:18.320 kind of like, man, we've been set, but we got Miller, 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.680 and I don't think we're I'm not against Miller. No, 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.600 he's my top guy in the second round when it 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:24.760 comes to wide receivers. I just he's he's a big 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.720 wild card because I don't know how the Cowboys feel 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.760 about him. I got you, here's my obligatory. Michael Gallop 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:34.360 mentioned Michael talk about Michael Gallop then a little bit. Well, 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.680 he's not a Cowboy visitor. I haven't seen that they 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.400 have any super interest in him. But I haven't even 0:15:39.400 --> 0:15:43.960 and Colorado State full sized receiver talking about six, one, two, 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:48.400 five to ten physical which out runner got a little 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:50.680 bit of everything. Josh Allen threw him a ball in 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:54.360 the Senior Bowl. Beautiful. This I think this is an 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.040 important thing to note because we make such a big 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.600 deal out of the thirty visitors and the guys they work. Yeah, 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:01.520 I do make a lot of and we should. It's 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.280 gonna be their first pick. We should the first one. 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.240 Their first round pick is always a visitor. Guys that 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:09.280 that visit are always guys that are in their sights. Sure, 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.400 but hey, we had a conversation with Ryan Switzer, like 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:14.600 just the other day, didn't We're like, great work in 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.840 the Star, you have lunch with the play Yeah, We're like, hey, 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.479 what type of like what Fortnite with? Did you realize? 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.160 How did that go? We had a decent he didn't 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:26.360 have a headset, he didn't have a MIC six what 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.800 We were like, hey, like, what what type of contact 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.680 did you have with the Cowboys before they drafted you? 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.200 He was like, uh, I talked to Bessaccio once for 0:16:33.320 --> 0:16:37.840 like ten minutes. Like, so the draft is completely unpredictable 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.640 and the odds are that you're going to have to 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.200 go away from your game plan. So we don't know 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.880 anything about if the Cowboys are interested in Anthony Miller 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.440 or Michael Gallup. But Gallop at fifty, what do you say? 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.920 I'm just because they didn't visit the Star and didn't 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:53.720 you know, aren't linked to the Cowboys. That doesn't mean anything. 0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:55.960 We know it's a pretty good roadmap for what they're 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.920 going to do in the first round, but everything after 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.880 that is on the table as far as I'm concerned. 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:03.160 And you know, in twenty eighteen NFL teams are turning 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.760 over every stone. So I don't think you should let 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.439 that write you off, basically is what I'm saying. So, 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:10.160 I mean, you just gotta see how the board falls. 0:17:10.800 --> 0:17:13.840 Get the Draft show. We're here at at Henry's Tavern 0:17:13.920 --> 0:17:18.160 on the corner of Bishop and Legacy. Draft Show brought 0:17:18.200 --> 0:17:21.159 you by Miller Light. Again. We're enjoying the Miller Lights 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.439 and you should too. So my third questions for a 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.119 third question for you guys is who has a better 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.920 rookie season? Dallas Goder or Hayden Hurst. I'll take Hurst. 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.880 Those are the two tight ends. Dallas Goder from South 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:40.919 Dakota State and Hayden Hurst South Carolina. Hurst is an 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.880 old man. Old men have advantages coming into the NFL. 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:46.840 What does he twenty five or so. Hayden Hurst was 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:51.560 a college baseball players. People are asking me about that 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.960 by the way, about the yea get too, well, It's interesting, 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.120 isn't it. They're like, Okay, do you worry about him 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.080 not being able to catch the ball? Right? Does he 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.240 get the yips about catching the foot? Why are we 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.960 talking about tight ends? I just thought I just wanted 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:05.560 to know. Why wouldn't we talk? I just want to 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:07.680 I just know we don't talk about tight ends enough, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:09.480 But I want to know. Who do you think is 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.920 gonna have the better pro career? What did Stephen Jones 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:14.840 say about tight ends? You got Jason Witten? I said, 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:16.920 I'm just talking about the PoTA guys on this team. 0:18:17.040 --> 0:18:21.479 Enough credit. Hey, this folk, this, this this draft shows 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.600 all about I'm trying. I'm trying to do this job. 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:29.280 Right here. The gentleman answer the question, he said he 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.320 thought that, Uh, I'd take Hurst just because I think 0:18:32.320 --> 0:18:34.439 when you're looking at sneaky well and you're looking at 0:18:34.480 --> 0:18:38.080 South Dakota State versus South Carolina worked real well in 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:42.120 that quarterback they went to Philly, right, I think, But 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.080 so you get God, you're getting your Dakota's mixed up? Right? No, 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.160 I know it's North Dakota State, but I'm just saying, yeah, 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:50.160 So God, He makes your highlight reel catches. He makes 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.920 some really freaky catches. He can do some awesome things 0:18:52.920 --> 0:18:54.920 on a football field. But Hayden Hurst, I feel like 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.320 it's a more competitive blocker. He's a more well rounded player, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.520 and he's a more ready player. Yeah, so Goddard might 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:01.679 have the better career, he might end up having seasons 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:03.760 whereas a thousand yards, But I would feel better about 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:06.560 putting Hayden Hurst on the field for every Evan Ingram 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:09.119 who has a I mean tight ends a tough position 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.399 to break out as a rookie, right, So yeah, I 0:19:11.480 --> 0:19:15.040 go Hurst, and I yeah, I feel pretty good about 0:19:15.119 --> 0:19:17.159 I feel I feel good about Hurst too. He's my 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:19.520 top rated tight end. If you put if you put 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.800 Goddard in New Orleans and you're just like, all you 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.200 gotta do is line up wide and run down the field, 0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:26.560 then he might be pretty sweet. But even like Jimmy Graham, 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:28.600 didn't have a great rookie year in New Orleans, I 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.440 don't know, and off the top of my head at least, 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.160 I mean, I think it took him a little while 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.159 at least. So yeah, but it's it's funny how these 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.720 tight ends are coming into the league and playing. You know, 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.520 they're figuring out the offensive coordinators are figuring out ways 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.880 to get them involved. That's why you worry about something 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.040 about this place a little bit. I've got the second 0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.280 round tight end and all of a sudden is ended 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:51.760 up with somebody else just catching Witten's not playing five more. No, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.640 whoever the next tight end they take, he's gonna get 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.160 to play. Yeah, at some point one of these days. Now, 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.359 Goddard at thirty two? Does that worry you? If Philly 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.640 has zach Ertz out there and Goddard's the other guy 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.560 replacing who did they watch? What's his name? Uh? Sellec No? 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:11.240 Did he leave Burt Trey Burton. If he becomes that 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:13.080 extra tight end, I think that's a lot of fun. 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.960 I worry about them taking guys. I worry about them 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:23.879 taking more. Worried about Philly drafting about Ronald Jones and 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:27.480 Philly like that scares me. YEA not a tight end. Whatever, 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.280 I'm with you on that. Okay, here we go. Choose 0:20:30.280 --> 0:20:33.399 a quarterback out of Mike White, Kyle Loletta, and Mason 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:41.879 Rudolph Loletta Rudolph, Yeah, or you're dying on that island 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.280 that's hey, where are we Where are we talking about? Right? 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:46.600 The first day? Picked out of those you just said, 0:20:46.640 --> 0:20:49.280 you just said Mike White and Loletta, So you're talking 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:52.680 day two. Yeah, Well I'm not. I'm not drafting Mason 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:54.640 Rudolph in the first No, you're just saying. I'm just saying, 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.200 choose a quarterback. Choose a quarterback out of those guys, 0:20:58.240 --> 0:21:00.240 I'll take Rudolph. It's I mean, it's kind of it's 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:02.960 it's like Josh Allen. You know, I hate the idea 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.080 of drafting Josh Allen in the top five, but like 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:06.879 I'll draft him in the first round and take a 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.600 chance that he develops. It's the same thing with Rudolf. 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:13.320 He's got the tools to be a badass. That Oklahoma 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.720 State offense scares me so much. And that's why we 0:21:15.800 --> 0:21:20.000 love James Washington so much. Right, and Rudolf looks and 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:23.320 somebody's wide opening throws it to him. Somebody asked me yesterday, goes. 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:26.240 Does does James White run a James Washington run a 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.200 route other than a go? Someone asked me that last 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.719 time screens too, So yeah, no good players ever come 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.240 out of that Oklahoma State offense. Certainly not the all time. 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.760 Certainly not the all time Cowboys touchdown later, definitely not 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:42.520 so No, no, I'm just saying so, but you're you're okay, 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:45.080 Mason Rudolf of you right, not in the first round, 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:46.560 by like, no, no, I'm just saying it. Take a 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:50.360 quarterback that's not named those three Rudolf. Yeah, I think 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:54.280 if you're taking a non prototype, I would take a chance. 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.919 If I'm a quarterback needy team and I'm and I'm 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:59.000 one of the teams that misses out there at the top, 0:21:59.040 --> 0:22:01.840 because there's gonna be seven teams fighting for four or 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:05.320 five quarterbacks if I miss out. I like Kyle Loletto 0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:06.720 a lot. If you put him with a coach who 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:09.600 recognizes his biggest limitation and just we're not gonna go 0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:12.720 in that situation. Yeah. When Kyle Aletta, the Richmond quarterback, 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:14.920 tries to throw a fly route, it looks like a punt. Yeah, 0:22:14.920 --> 0:22:17.320 and it's gonna get intercepted. But everything other than that, 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:21.160 everything else, accuracy, poise, He's a good player. That's why 0:22:21.160 --> 0:22:24.360 I like Mike White. If you don't, he's got better tools. 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.639 I think Mike White does. If you're you know, if 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.960 you're the quarterbacks not named going to the Jets or 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.640 going to Cleveland. You know, give me the give me guy. 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.040 I just think that White's got a lot to his game. 0:22:36.080 --> 0:22:39.080 I love his size, the arm, talent. You know, there's 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.840 something about him, the accuracy with him. I think he's 0:22:41.840 --> 0:22:44.880 just a he's mobile. I just I think somebody's gonna 0:22:44.880 --> 0:22:46.640 get a Really, you know, we've in the past, we've 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:49.840 seen these guys like the hack and Bergs, the Petties, 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:53.000 these Cooks, these guys have all gone and they just 0:22:53.160 --> 0:22:56.080 really haven't done anything. I don't know these guys. One 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.560 of those is gonna make it, make it. One of 0:22:58.560 --> 0:23:00.919 those is gonna make make it me, make it be 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.840 a useful starter. Really, one of those is gonna make 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.480 it okay. One of those three is gonna make it okay. 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:09.320 There's Kirk Cousins is in there somewhere. He said, how 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.320 do you like that the highest paid quarterback in the 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:14.960 league fourth round pick till the next quarterback means to 0:23:15.000 --> 0:23:17.720 get paid. You're just saying, still, yeah, I think one 0:23:17.760 --> 0:23:19.800 of them is gonna make it. I believe that. And 0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.760 I don't think it's Rudolph. Rudolf scares me when it's 0:23:22.800 --> 0:23:25.480 not on time in that offense where things are wide open, 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:29.080 it gets real strange on him. It gets real strange 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.200 that Sam Darnold too hard to evaluate. Yeah, Darnold can 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.440 save you, though now he'll bury you. But you can 0:23:36.480 --> 0:23:39.400 also say he will bury you for sure. Okay, here's 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.199 my other question for you boys. And by the way, 0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.639 again once again, we are the Draft Show presented by 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.880 Miller Lte. Yeah, come out to Henry's and Henry's tavern. Yeah, 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.639 come on, we got we'll be here for you know 0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:50.560 that we're kind of blowing through some time right now. 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:55.080 We're here for ninety nice cold Miller Lte and then 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.560 enjoy that and hang out with some draft coverage with 0:23:57.640 --> 0:24:01.040 us in conversation. This is my question for you boys. 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:08.960 If it was me, I'd play Mika Fitzpatrick at corner safety? 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:13.840 What what? What? What tape did you watch? Go away? 0:24:14.119 --> 0:24:16.640 He can do He can do everything, right, I mean, 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:18.760 oh no, he can do it. I think you do it. 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.840 I think he can do I think that's the problem 0:24:20.880 --> 0:24:23.160 with people right now. They don't know where to put 0:24:23.240 --> 0:24:26.040 him if he he's a slot corner now rembo, he's 0:24:26.080 --> 0:24:28.000 talking about him because I mean he was once a 0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.399 guy that people thought about as a top five player, 0:24:30.720 --> 0:24:33.880 and now he's like you'd play you'd play him at corner. Yeah, 0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.119 where do you think he's getting drafted in the top 0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:43.080 eleven if he was an award if all right, no, 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:45.600 then no, If he was that great at corner, then 0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.520 there wouldn't even be a question about this, Like, well 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.879 he didn't play he played slot corner. You want to 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.720 just play him at nickel. That's a spot in the NFL. 0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:54.359 He can do that. Put him, put him in the 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:58.359 situation where he's got the best chance to not have 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:00.119 all the pressure on him at least to start. And 0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.080 I know we talked about this with Jalen Ramsey too, 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:05.880 like I know, but there I don't think I don't 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:07.719 think the debate was as strong, and I don't think 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.439 there was any doubt that he was going in the 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:12.080 top five or six either. Yeah, and like Ramsey was 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:14.880 a freakier athlete, I think exactly. And that's this I mean, 0:25:14.920 --> 0:25:17.359 like Patrick Peterson comes to mind, Like when there's a 0:25:17.400 --> 0:25:21.080 guy that's that good at outside cornerback, there's no debate, 0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:23.920 there's just none. And there's no talk about him fighting either. 0:25:23.920 --> 0:25:25.800 They make it a little nervously Cowboys, we're gonna play 0:25:25.840 --> 0:25:28.560 Ramsey at safety. No, I think you'd been great. I 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.280 think it fits with I say it all the time, 0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:35.280 like I don't trust these guys to be creative with players. 0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:38.399 I said it about Tired Matthew before Tired Matthew was 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.200 even a free agent, and sure they were like, well 0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:46.040 he doesn't fit here, Mathai. Either way, I just if 0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.240 it if it requires like a lot of creativity and 0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:50.920 outside the box thinking, I don't trust this scheme to 0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.360 get it to do it? Nah, I think I think 0:25:53.359 --> 0:25:55.840 because corner is so valuable, you have to try it 0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:59.080 at least. Yeah. To Dave's point, can I try it 0:25:59.160 --> 0:26:01.800 after you let a acclimate to the NFL. No, we're 0:26:01.800 --> 0:26:03.560 gonna go try to put you at the best spot, 0:26:03.560 --> 0:26:05.760 the most valuable spot. We're gonna have you cover receivers. 0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:09.400 But this is gonna go in your favor, which means 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.520 I shouldn't say it. I do think one of the differences, 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:14.760 I think Mica Fitzpatrick has one of the highest football 0:26:14.760 --> 0:26:16.600 IQ's in the draft, so I think if you do 0:26:16.720 --> 0:26:19.000 back him off of the ball, he's not going to 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.920 be a guy that struggles with that. He's gonna thrive 0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.320 at it. But I would like to see he played 0:26:24.400 --> 0:26:27.080 slot corner. But I would take Ward over him because 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:29.399 I've watched Ward play outside corner, have his back to 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:32.960 the ball, make plays all that stuff. Fitzpatrick's bigger, he 0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:36.800 can be more physical, but I haven't seen him out there. 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:39.480 I just don't know how how to pick a guy 0:26:39.480 --> 0:26:41.400 that I haven't seen out there. If you're if there's 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.040 any question at all, then I just don't where are 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.800 you playing? Which safety? Are you playing him? Out? And 0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.360 today's NFL prime matter is less than ever, but it's 0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:52.679 still defined for a lot of teams. It's strong, I guess. 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:54.480 I think. So you're picking him in the top ten 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.200 to play drown safety, Well, I mean that's a felt 0:26:57.240 --> 0:26:59.280 Derwin James. Where would you play Derwin James? They gotta 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:02.240 playment free claimed free myself. But I'd play him everywhere. 0:27:02.240 --> 0:27:03.560 But I don't want to trade up for him because 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.640 Xavier Woods is our guy. We're not allowed to jump 0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:09.879 off that wagon. Safety are definitely allowed to jump off 0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:13.080 that wagon. We picked him, it's not you're not saying 0:27:13.119 --> 0:27:15.440 he's a bad player by saying it's a good idea 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:17.880 to get a better player. No, I'd be saying it's 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.800 a better idea to let him play and have your 0:27:20.840 --> 0:27:23.800 first two round picks for something else. Okay, that I 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:27.040 mean okay, spoken like a member of the Cowboys front office. 0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.840 I mean you know that? Is that a shot fired? No, 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.480 it's not a shot fired. It's I just I decited 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.679 to be a GM. I just needed I need a 0:27:34.760 --> 0:27:38.040 better what's the backup plan? What if he's not good? 0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.640 Who Xavier Woods? Yeah? I know it, Xavier Woods? No, 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:44.480 you got excited that they drafted him last spring for 0:27:44.640 --> 0:27:46.720 third round grade because he's a good player. What if 0:27:46.760 --> 0:27:49.080 he's what if he's not good? Jeff Heath is here, 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:53.240 he played it last year. Okay, cool? All right? Because 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.679 but the argument isn't because to me, the argument is 0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.800 more what can I do at nineteen and fifty? Would 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.560 you rather have Derwin James take Xavier wood spot and 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:05.240 leave two spots open that I get to improve? Or 0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:08.040 would you rather have a left guard, a wide receiver 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:12.320 and Xavier Woods? I would rather just fill the hole 0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:14.359 that I have the most amount of questions about. So 0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.800 you need the linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, and safety come to 0:28:18.840 --> 0:28:21.160 mind before left guard. I don't have a left guard 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.080 here you do. Oh well, you got Marcus Martin and 0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.479 Lyle Collins. Yeah, Lyle Collins is kind of the race 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:28.800 in the hole, I believe, Oh, I trust me. I 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.879 don't want that to happen. Nobody does, and they included 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.920 want it to happen. I don't want it to happen, 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:36.399 but it very well could. So I'm just asking you 0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:39.360 to buckle up. All right, I got more questions. 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It 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.000 is Brian brought as Jeff Kavanaugh from one oh five 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:08.720 three the Fan. He'll be with us all week and long. 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:10.920 Him and Kevin Turner. They do a lot of great 0:31:10.960 --> 0:31:13.880 work with me on the draft. You guys know their 0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.160 names very well. Good follow us on Twitter as well 0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.920 for draft questions. Debatable and oh can Dave sorry they're 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.880 supposed to cool down in the break, I'm sorry? And 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.800 David Hillman at the end there who is antagonizing Jeff 0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:30.640 Kavanaugh as we speak. Ken Garrison, executive producing this show today, David, 0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.120 I'm gonna turn this show over to you because I 0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.160 always feel like that the fans. The reason we're out 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:37.400 here today is again because of Miller Light. We thank them. 0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:39.480 We also were out here because of the fans and 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.600 people like that. They want to be learned a little 0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.240 bit more about the draft. So we take these questions seriously. 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:46.440 Thank you, Ed Kay Hill and it is a little 0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:50.040 twitter on the twit, Thank you very much. Wow, I 0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.960 got a question, a really timely question. You know, this 0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:55.120 is our last show before we actually do the draft. 0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.560 I actually saw Daniel Jeremiah talking about this today. So 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.600 Zach points out that there's a lot of buzz about 0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:05.880 Frank Ragnow, oh, that was one of my questions the 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:09.360 Arkansas Center. He's a good player. A lot of people 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.880 tell he's getting first round buzz. Oh, you don't see 0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:16.800 him that way. No, My last question, is Frank Ragnall 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:21.080 really a first round consideration? You tell me that's I 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:22.920 mean what I tell you. When you read do you 0:32:23.000 --> 0:32:27.280 revisit your thoughts on him? Yeah, he's a billy to 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.080 billy blocker, is what he does. When you you watch Okay, 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.760 played guard in the Alabama game, all right, but when 0:32:32.800 --> 0:32:35.880 you watch him block, if he does not get right 0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:39.360 up on you, he's got no shot and he is 0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:43.440 balance is bad. And I just do not see what 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.320 people are looking at with him. I just don't get 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.520 it because I see a guy that's all balanced. To 0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.560 see a guy it's on like a one legged football player. 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.520 I see a guy that's kids yanked throne. But you know, 0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:57.000 but I trust me he will. He's gonna play twelve 0:32:57.040 --> 0:33:00.960 years in this league. And I'm sticking to your guns. 0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:04.040 Oh no, I'm not. I'm not changing how to draft. 0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.960 People would see the buzz and be like, oh, I'm 0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:10.760 gonna revisit my grade. Oh no, oh well, I mean 0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.400 I wasn't gonna say it right now. I like him, 0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.080 And it's kind of what hold on. It's kind of 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:19.200 for the reasons you're saying that he's just kind of player. 0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.040 You can point out the things where it's like, wow, 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.040 he doesn't really play with extension, but you can't find 0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.640 him getting beat. But it's like he if he if 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:31.160 he does not get up on you and hold And 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.480 it's funny guys trying to like redirect on him and 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:35.800 getting he's like going with him because he's holding on 0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:39.400 so tight that he's hanging on, hasn't given up a sack. No, 0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:43.160 in his college career. He and he gets the job 0:33:43.200 --> 0:33:44.920 that he played guard in the in the album, you 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:46.920 can watch him play guard in the Alabama game. And 0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.440 I give I would have him ahead of Price the 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.160 Ohio State Center. Now there's another Billy to Billy block. 0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.160 I would have him in front of him Price to me, 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.400 I mean they they had. That's another guy that's kind 0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:58.720 of getting some. I know he was hurt, but people 0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:00.840 are talking about him. If you're first round, sir, give 0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:05.680 me Daniels. Daniels give Quisinberry for UCLA is not bad either, 0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.799 not either. You know how. I like a good segue, 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.640 which mentioning Daniels throws in a question from Joseph, which 0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:19.200 is who's the forgotten man at nineteen? Let's take a 0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:22.479 peek here, because I think James Daniels is a yeah, 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:26.239 I don't, I don't. I you know what, that would 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.319 be one of those picks if we've talked about We've 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:33.160 spent months talking about everybody but James Daniel, and we 0:34:33.200 --> 0:34:36.160 all love him. And if any probably and all of 0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:38.600 a sudden, we're sitting there on Thursday night and I'm 0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:42.600 gonna say, you know, Commiscier says picks in bah James 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.840 Daniels Center, Iowa, I'm gonna I would stop and say, damn, 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.800 good pick, and it would and it wouldn't even I 0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:51.880 mean I would. It's one of those things where I 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.360 haven't thought about. But gosh, he goes back to guys 0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.879 they visited him as a thirty Yeah, and I'm making 0:34:57.920 --> 0:35:00.400 a big deal about the thirty day, but I in 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:04.319 the first round, you should yeah, the Colton Miller. No, 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.239 I'm not gonna visit unless they're gonna pick Colton Miller. 0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.239 Unless they trade up, the first round pick will have 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:13.880 been a thirty visit. I'll that's gonna happen, unless unless 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:16.000 something crazy happens. I mean, if Derwin falls and they 0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.359 trade for him or something nuts. But if they pick 0:35:18.400 --> 0:35:20.719 at nineteen, the pick will be a guy that went 0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:22.799 to the facility. There's just no doubt in my mind. 0:35:22.840 --> 0:35:25.440 The only redeeming quality about Colton Miller is that he's 0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:28.520 a good athlete. Names to your We talked about this 0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.360 because we did talking Cowboys this morning. That was shameless, 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.719 but way to go. Good job, great beer. Miller L 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.759 Miller Um. We talked about it on Talking Cowboys today. 0:35:37.760 --> 0:35:40.359 You know they visited Mike McGlinchey. They visited I can't 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:44.000 figure out why they did that. Well, but Collins Trump 0:35:44.000 --> 0:35:47.960 called the visit. But they covered their bases. They visited 0:35:47.960 --> 0:35:50.759 two tackles they like and a guard they like. If 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.279 that's the option, they take the best one available in 0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.640 their minds, and then they figured out from there. So 0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.960 if you're drafted Mike McGlinchey, you're moving. Lyle Collins, Yeah, 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.960 abstracted James Annuals absolutely leaving Lyle where he is. And 0:36:02.320 --> 0:36:04.640 I like Steven basically said that today. I asked him 0:36:04.640 --> 0:36:07.560 about it and uh, and he was like, well, basically 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.880 he said, we're gonna draft what we think is the 0:36:09.880 --> 0:36:11.960 best dude available when the time comes to do that, 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:14.919 whether it's nineteen, whether it's the fifth round, and we 0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.480 will decide what to do from there. So if they 0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:20.359 get themselves a really nice card, Lyle probably stays. If 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.600 they wind up with a better tackle, he probably moves. 0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.560 I think it's that easy. Other thirty visits that I 0:36:26.640 --> 0:36:29.120 don't think we've talked about a lot as a potential pick. 0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:33.759 Tavin Bran Yeah, the Florida defensive tackle. Absolutely, And for 0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:35.560 me at least, it's because I don't want them to 0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:38.600 pick him, so I don't bring him up a bunch McGlinchey. 0:36:38.880 --> 0:36:40.840 I think we talk about him a little bit. But 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.480 when David just put out the scenario that if you 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:48.880 drafted him that immediately signals move that becomes uh fleming 0:36:48.920 --> 0:36:52.440 becomes the swing tackle or does McGlinchey become the swing tack? 0:36:52.520 --> 0:36:57.840 I stop, you stop, sir, sir? Oh, you mean this 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:01.839 coaching staff doesn't favor veteran experience over sir. Come on, 0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:05.719 and we talk about vandersh a ton as the guy 0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:09.960 at nineteen. If you think Rashaun Evans is the forgotten man, 0:37:10.200 --> 0:37:12.120 I've been mocking him for like a month and a half. 0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:14.120 He did it in the magazine might of fact. Well 0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:16.360 keep men. You guys didn't give me how much is 0:37:16.360 --> 0:37:18.799 the magazine? Well it's it's just I brought a bunch 0:37:18.800 --> 0:37:21.279 of guys. Probably the web. Where's the website? We're probably 0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:23.160 too late to send him out. You don't have it 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:27.480 by now. I'm for you. Grab we got draft tickets. 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:28.840 By the way, too, and we're gonna give away at 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:33.319 Jason Witten autographed jersey factual. Yeah, arden Key is the 0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.719 forgotten man. Brian at nineteen. I wouldn't pick him at 0:37:36.760 --> 0:37:40.080 eighty one, all right, John was just thrown out a 0:37:40.160 --> 0:37:41.719 visitor name. No, I wouldn't pick him at eighty one. 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:44.719 I would arden Key at eighty one. Key at eighty one. 0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:48.360 That was another one of my questions forgotten why or 0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:52.640 why not on arden Key? But okay, James James Daniels um, 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:54.759 I mean you could throw a Rashaun Evans because vander 0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.920 esh does get more love he does. I just don't 0:37:57.920 --> 0:38:00.440 know it. I just don't know if they if they 0:38:00.480 --> 0:38:02.480 think like that, they would have to play him at 0:38:02.480 --> 0:38:05.520 will linebacker and move Seawan Lee back inside. I don't 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:11.360 know what they're really said on him. Evans a physical dude. 0:38:09.560 --> 0:38:14.960 I know he could play Mike all day. I'm just guys, 0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.040 so they're so they're more light and the butt guy 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:20.600 at Mike than they are the dude who's a freight train. 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.239 They think the guy could play all three positions. That's 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:25.920 what I think. I think Rashaan Evans could be your 0:38:26.000 --> 0:38:28.960 day one Mike if you needed him to be he's 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.279 a he's a that's the one thing I really do. 0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:35.520 I don't absolutely love him, but he hits the crap 0:38:35.560 --> 0:38:39.719 out of it. Yeah, doing people stop, That's that's absolutely right. Okay, um, 0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.640 oh yeah, sorry I got sidetrack. Oh well, okay, I 0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:44.880 know we talked about this at the top, but just 0:38:44.960 --> 0:38:49.520 for clarity's sake, Austin he yeah, he read your mind. Yeah, 0:38:49.600 --> 0:38:53.280 if vitavea Layton vander Esh and wide receiver one whoever, 0:38:53.360 --> 0:38:55.759 whether that's Calvin Ridley or DJ Moore, if they're all there, 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.080 who would you take? And who do you think they 0:38:58.080 --> 0:39:02.680 would take? Because obviously there are two different questions. Yeah, 0:39:02.920 --> 0:39:09.360 vanderh veya wide receiver of your choice. Well, Vanderesh was 0:39:09.400 --> 0:39:12.920 at their biggest need position to me, Yeah, to me, 0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.280 some might say receiver even though you have six of them. Yeah, 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.120 I think they could play a game with the receivers 0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.560 they have. And okay, along, so I think you're right 0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:25.080 about it too many times. Yeah, I would take veya 0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:28.399 because you just don't like Vanderes. Well, I think he's 0:39:28.480 --> 0:39:32.400 the best blend of need and talent. Like, he's arguably 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.400 the best defensive tackle in the draft, and it's a 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:37.360 need Veya will be my top rated player on the 0:39:37.400 --> 0:39:39.680 board there, so I would I would go Veya, then 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:43.040 the wide receiver, then Vanderesh. I think they'll go Vanderesh 0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.400 wide receiver. Ya. That would this This is a great 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.120 fire escape, like I've you know, and I don't want 0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:52.520 to get my hopes up. I really don't. But I've 0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:55.759 had myself convinced for a month that that a linebacker 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.319 is going to be the pick because it just makes 0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.160 too much sense. I hate the idea of drafting the 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.440 third or fourth best linebacker in the draft at nineteen. 0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:05.040 Don't you hate that? You feel pigeonholed into doing that? Though? 0:40:05.560 --> 0:40:07.440 The idea before the draft is to make it so 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:09.840 you're never stuck in this spot, and I feel like 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.920 they're stuck in the spot. I don't think they're stuck. 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:13.799 It's just when you weigh it all out, it makes 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.160 the most sense. And trust me, I reserve the right 0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:18.920 to be wrong. It happens all the time, but you 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:22.359 look at it, it does. Shut up. It makes why 0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:27.719 are we doing this? We're makes it makes It just 0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.520 makes the most sense. I don't think they're pigeonholed. I 0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.239 think we've been talking about it all forty minutes where 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.799 there's eight or nine options that make sense, but the 0:40:34.880 --> 0:40:39.000 linebacker option makes the most sense, except if they are 0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:41.240 willing to draft the defensive tackle in the first round. 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:44.080 You can get the best one in the draft, do 0:40:44.160 --> 0:40:47.839 a variety of things and give you away rosier long 0:40:47.960 --> 0:40:52.520 term future at that position. Is this Danny Shelton. No, no, no, no, 0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:56.880 Danny Shelton wasn't as athletic Danny Shelton. I don't think 0:40:56.920 --> 0:41:00.480 he was even as big. He's bigger, stronger. Festee was 0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.000 pretty wide. Yeah, I think Sheldon might have had better 0:41:03.040 --> 0:41:06.080 college production. But when you just watch the players play, Yeah, 0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.960 Tove is different. Okay, Tove is different. Right, He's a truck. 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.600 He's a ballerina truck. Yeah, that's how I say, dancing bear. 0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:16.919 You already used. That's good. It's good, though, it's good. 0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.279 The folks on the periscope, they're they're asking, where's the 0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.520 love for Davenport? You have the wrong guy. If this 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:28.279 is uh, it's classic. You know. I feel like I'm 0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:29.920 trying to tell you what I think the Cowboys are 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.920 gonna do. And again, I guess, you know, going back 0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.360 to my point about the thirty visits. Anything is possible 0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:37.360 in the draft, but you're talking about a guy that 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.080 you got a draft at nineteen, and I have no 0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.239 reason to believe that they care about him. They didn't 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.840 bring him in on a thirty people went to his 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:46.920 pro day, but they go to every pro day, right 0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:48.600 as far as I know. They didn't do a private 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.080 workout with him, all that good type of stuff. So 0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:54.040 you know, you're looking for markers on a roadmap, you 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:56.560 know what I mean, And there's a million markers on 0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:59.720 a million other guys. I got nothing on Marcus Davenport. 0:41:59.800 --> 0:42:01.879 So it's got nothing to do with what I think 0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:03.919 about him. But I don't have any reason to believe 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:06.360 that they like him. So I just why am I 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:07.960 talking about him if I don't think they're gonna PA 0:42:08.400 --> 0:42:10.560 I was just no, I know, but I'm explaining myself 0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:12.920 to anybody listening. I know we're drafting for the next 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:17.000 hundred years, but four or five. Does Marcus Davenport help 0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.359 you much in year one? I don't think he does. 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.000 I think it's a small school guy that won by 0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.160 being physically better than everybody he played against, who really 0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:27.400 doesn't know what he's doing. I wonder I don't think 0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.080 this guy, Ziggy. I wonder if people said that about 0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.359 DeMarcus where Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, 0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:35.960 where's a different cat. I'm not just saying no, no, no, 0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:38.400 I'm with you, but no, I'm thinking of ziggy Ansa. 0:42:39.000 --> 0:42:41.160 Yeah that was a surprise. Ziggy Ansa. We go a 0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:44.279 first round, surprised by the by the Detroit Lions. If 0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:46.200 we want an end, we want Harold Landry to make 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:49.319 it to nineteen. That would be above all else that 0:42:49.400 --> 0:42:53.080 would be my a one hell yeah scenario. What about 0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:56.359 real Quid Smith? Okay, what about this? Okay, but I talk, 0:42:57.000 --> 0:42:59.000 But okay, what do you think that they would do 0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:02.399 because they because Veya and Landry? Would they take would 0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:05.560 they take Landry over Veya because he's the end they 0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:08.080 would get too? Or do they feel like though that 0:43:08.080 --> 0:43:11.400 that defensive tackle can help their life? It help Jalen Smith? 0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.919 Got to take the guy that affects the passing game, right, 0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:16.960 I would think so that's and okay, I have it 0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:19.359 that way. Paveya can rush the passer, but not as 0:43:19.400 --> 0:43:21.799 well as a guy like Harold Landry if he lives 0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.160 up to his villain. If you have a guy who 0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:24.759 can get you ten plus sex a year. You take 0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.759 him over that exactly? Exactly. No, I agree. I think 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:31.880 it's I think it's crazy talk. It's almost as crazy 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.200 to think Harold Landry falls that far. You shouldn't get 0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.560 past fourteen exactly. I wouldn't think I would. Maybe Green 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:40.440 Bay takes Davenport. Somebody mocked Landry at twenty five the 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:43.520 other day and I was like, what planet? That's nuts 0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.080 to me. I'd be a good planet. I want to 0:43:45.080 --> 0:43:48.759 be on that planet. Well, no, because the car. There's 0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.400 another question, Dave or for you guys, if if what 0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:55.000 if DJ Moore somehow ends up in the second round? 0:43:56.400 --> 0:43:58.799 Are you are you going up? Um? If if it's 0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:02.040 swap okay, this scenario we did yesterday, but it's DJ 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:04.440 Moore at thirty seven instead of so I'm giving up 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:07.560 fifty and eighty one. Yeah, do it? Bring it on? 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.080 What do we do in the first round? You took 0:44:09.160 --> 0:44:12.560 Vanderish keeping well, because that's who they're gonna take. Bring 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:15.840 it on? Yeah, yes, got me, got me a linebacker 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.640 who can step in and play right away. Got me 0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:22.320 wide receiver one at thirty seven? Yep, yeah, yep, yep. Nope, 0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.200 bring it on. You're not gonna do it. Why because 0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:27.160 I'm in the Michael Gallup fan club. You don't gonna 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.839 wait for fifty you don't like players. I'm gonna wait. 0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:31.960 I'm gonna get Anthony Miller or Michael give me then 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.759 your ideal scenario. Then for the first two picks, then 0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:38.479 for you ideal for you don't talk about the Cowboys. Okay? 0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.799 Are we taking Harold Landry out of the equation. You're 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:43.759 gonna say he's not available, Well, just give me your 0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:45.840 give me, give me your ideas. I take my ideal 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.680 is that somebody else takes Landry, so I'm not tempted. Uh. 0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:52.680 My ideal scenario would be at nineteen, you'd take either 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.919 Isaiah Winner, James Daniels and you they play left guard, 0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.640 and in fifty you take Anthony Miller or Michael Gallup 0:44:58.680 --> 0:45:01.080 and play receiver. You ever one under? Actually, okay, and 0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:03.200 I hate that I haven't gotten a linebacker yet, but 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:04.640 that's what I feel the best of it. I can 0:45:04.680 --> 0:45:07.080 incorporate a question from Jesse in here, since you just 0:45:07.120 --> 0:45:09.960 brought that up, like and and Jesse says, is it 0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:13.400 too risky to draft a guard at nineteen given what 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:17.120 else this team needs. Of course, why I think because boy, 0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.560 we were on that guard train so early. We were 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.400 in today and then and then we stopped at the 0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:24.120 station we've all got off. In today's NFL, I know, 0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.200 people are talking about how much money you have tied 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.480 up in the offensive line and this. Yeah, well I'm 0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.560 really sorry about how much we might have to pay 0:45:30.560 --> 0:45:34.719 our awesome left guard in twenty twenty three. But for now, 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.160 that's not I want to protect this quarterback. I want 0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:38.799 to run the ball. This is what my team does. 0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.200 This is what we do. It's not wrong my guard. 0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:42.680 I think my guard is going to be the best 0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:45.680 player on the board. Can't you do that without drafting 0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.040 a guard nineteenth overall? I mean they didn't last year. 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:51.759 I know. But there's a lot of stuff that goes 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:55.120 into that. There is your your your best blindman got 0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:59.640 hurt you? If I had your draft? Is your draft 0:45:59.719 --> 0:46:02.480 chain change? If I tell you they're moving while Collins. 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.520 Yeah now I want McGlinchey. Okay, yeah, now I want 0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.359 Mike mcglenchie at nineteen. I don't want camp. Look, look 0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.000 what I want for this line is for Fleming to 0:46:12.040 --> 0:46:15.480 be the swing swing tackle. That's my dream I want. 0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:19.799 That's the guy in place. All right, that's what I want. 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:23.000 You know what my ideal is, what I'm space And 0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:26.719 what's the name of the Washington State guard? Madison? Give 0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.000 me Madison in the third or fourth round. You're good 0:46:30.040 --> 0:46:32.680 stepping starting with Madison, or he can fight it out 0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.080 with Marcus Martin and training camp. I don't need to 0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:38.239 spend pick nineteen on a on a starting guard. Let 0:46:38.560 --> 0:46:41.480 let a mid round pick fight with Marcus. He has 0:46:41.480 --> 0:46:44.399 been consistent. The one, the one that's changed a little 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.520 bit has been Dane because Dane says, well, you didn't 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.760 you didn't get a good enough band aid, right, which 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.600 at the position. So now he's now more willing to 0:46:52.640 --> 0:46:55.759 take a guard. If Jonathan Cooper can and and I'm 0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:57.600 not saying he was a pro bowler, but if Jonathan 0:46:57.640 --> 0:47:02.160 Cooper can do the job adequately, he was adequate. Adequate 0:47:02.239 --> 0:47:07.000 is a fair word. Adequate is a fair words. Okay, Well, 0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:09.880 this one's personal to me because we're picking at nineteen. 0:47:09.920 --> 0:47:11.960 I'm just gonna draw up my reasoning for this. We're 0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.520 picking at nineteen. If Isaiah Winn is on the board, 0:47:14.760 --> 0:47:19.120 he'll probably be about my eleventh best player in the draft, 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:23.280 James Daniels will probably be about my fourteenth best player 0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:25.719 in the draft. So you get wind over Daniel Susan, Yes, 0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:29.759 vander esh and Evans. Your linebacker options at nineteen for 0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:33.239 me will be about the thirty fifth to fortieth best 0:47:33.239 --> 0:47:35.120 players in the draft. So to me, it's just a 0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.800 massive difference in what I'm picking in terms of value 0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.040 of the player that I think I'm getting. Now, why 0:47:40.120 --> 0:47:43.359 that doesn't matter is because for the Cowboys those are 0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:47.239 probably must much closer, if not flipped. Let's for me, 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.760 that's why I want the lineman. I'm gonna go against 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:53.000 everything that Brian's ever taught me, like window dressing your 0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:57.279 board and all that crap. But think about this, I 0:47:57.320 --> 0:47:59.160 mean think about you know, you get into the nitty 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:02.319 gritty of the sea and would you and okay, it 0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:04.200 doesn't make sense in the value of your board, but 0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:06.759 would you rather have the thirty fifth best player in 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.879 the draft holding your linebacker group together with a thirty 0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:11.920 two year old and a guy with a bum knee, 0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:15.279 or would you rather have the fourteenth best guy in 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.400 the draft. Oh and by okay, so you're all right, 0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:21.200 thirty fifth best guy or you're one hundred and twentieth 0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:26.279 best guy, let's call him Fred Warner. Or I would 0:48:26.360 --> 0:48:29.319 rather have my left guard and then Darius Leonard holds 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:32.400 my linebacker cord together than pick one of those linebackers 0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:36.839 and have Coal Madison. Give me the bet, Josie, give 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.399 me the better player holding together the shakier unit over 0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:43.200 the better player holding together the already very good unit. 0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:47.560 The offensive line should be able to function without a 0:48:47.600 --> 0:48:50.280 top tier left guard. The linebacking corp is not gonna 0:48:50.320 --> 0:48:53.600 function without a top tier linebacker. I believe that would 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.719 you feel different if they traded for the guy in Seattle? 0:48:57.360 --> 0:48:59.920 Would you feel different about your defense and having the 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:04.520 hold together guy? A little bit? Because I think then 0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:07.120 in today's NFL, you know what I would do if 0:49:07.120 --> 0:49:09.960 you had that guy from Seattle, that guy. If I 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.520 have that guy from Seattle, Xavier Woods can play mother 0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:14.600 safety spot and you know who can play linebacker for me, 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:20.400 Cavon Frasier. That's today's NFL. Today's NFL strong safety's play linebacker. 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.279 We gotta cover, we gotta coverbacks, we gotta cover tight ends, 0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:25.719 and we gotta tackle. That's what linebacker's got to do. 0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:28.759 That there's nothing for you then I kind of no. 0:49:28.880 --> 0:49:31.759 I mean, which if you add him to the mix, 0:49:31.840 --> 0:49:35.319 then then I'm down for whatever and all. Honestly, your 0:49:35.760 --> 0:49:38.600 argument is about kind of holding things together when something 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.200 happens to Sean Lee. Yeah you really you don't for 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.959 that matter, I mean yeah, yeah, Stephen Jones. Stephen Jones said, 0:49:46.000 --> 0:49:48.080 a big part of how we feel about linebackers, we 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.799 expect him to take a step forward. I hope that's 0:49:50.840 --> 0:49:54.560 the case, but I'm I can't bank on it. I can't. 0:49:54.600 --> 0:49:56.520 I can't sit here and be like like that's so 0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.040 it's presumptuous to just be like, well, he's gonna be great. 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:00.839 The last two weeks of the season, they were playing 0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:03.360 him twenty snaps a game. They weren't dialing him up. 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:05.160 They were pulling. They were pulling him back, and he 0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.040 actually looked better than that. When he plays sixty snaps, 0:50:08.080 --> 0:50:10.040 he wasn't nearly as good. I just think you need 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:12.200 three to play too, you need It's like they were 0:50:12.200 --> 0:50:15.320 apologizing to him today. Well I'll take that too, but 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:18.959 I just I let we said it again on talking today. 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.120 We said it, you can play and win with these 0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:23.760 wide receivers. You could play and win with this offensive 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.239 line as it stands right now? Do you agree? Yes, 0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:28.480 Tyrone's healthy. If Tyron's healthy, yes, can you play and 0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:31.479 win with these linebackers with the starters? Can you play 0:50:31.480 --> 0:50:35.560 and win with this linebacking corps? Sixteen games? Oh? Sixteen games? Yeah? 0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:39.680 My draft is over. Yes, but that's right now. No, 0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.440 you're right there, we go there. Thank you for letting 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.040 me have that. Yeah, I appreciate that. See, I can 0:50:45.160 --> 0:50:47.399 concede when there is a point where you're not right. 0:50:47.440 --> 0:50:50.040 A lot of people struggle with that. It's I just 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:52.440 the linebacker position scares the crap out of me, man, 0:50:52.480 --> 0:50:55.840 And that's I don't the draft. Nick in me doesn't 0:50:55.920 --> 0:50:58.880 want a draft Layton vander esh or Rashaan Evans. But 0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:01.040 I'm just thinking about how is this team gonna win 0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.839 games in twenty eighteen? And it's by bolstering mac Rube. Yeah, 0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.560 and I think it's by running for well four thousand 0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:12.640 yards that don't help. But but he wants to the guard, 0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:14.239 and I think that. I think the ace of the hole, 0:51:14.280 --> 0:51:17.439 and I've said this is Collins. I think that's what's 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.319 keeping them from taking a guy at nineteen. Yeah, I 0:51:20.360 --> 0:51:22.480 really do. I think that that thought in their head 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.360 is keeping them from taking a guard at nineteen. But 0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.720 if they do that, wouldn't you say they haven't learned? 0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:31.600 If your plan is okay, we did, so, we're gonna 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.680 move Collins to guard. Fleming's gonna be our right tackle, 0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.080 our depth across the line. If Tyring gets hurt of zero, 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:40.120 I think that here, I despise. That's brutal. I despise 0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:42.440 the best of five, the best five thing. And they 0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:45.600 killed they killed Jazz Green. Yeah, Garrett admitted it. I 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:47.520 asked him, said you shouldn't have played him a guard. 0:51:47.560 --> 0:51:50.080 He goes, I think back on it, No should. I 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:53.879 discovered a fundamental difference between me and Jeffrey just just 0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:55.880 when he said that right there, which is that I'm 0:51:55.880 --> 0:51:59.080 I sit cross legged. No, well you do do that. No, 0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:04.920 there's not nothing wrong that. No, I think, Okay, this 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.640 is what I think me. I think this is what 0:52:07.680 --> 0:52:10.040 the cowboys are gonna do, and there's nothing I can 0:52:10.080 --> 0:52:14.840 do about it, and so I'm just gonna Jeff is like, 0:52:15.000 --> 0:52:17.080 we watch all these players, we want to fight the cowboys. 0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:18.960 Jeff is like, this is what the cowboys are gonna do, 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:21.359 and I don't like it, and I'm gonna fix it, 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:24.120 which like that's like you can't do that. That's not 0:52:24.280 --> 0:52:26.640 I'm not worried about that. At the end of the day, Well, 0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.560 these are my receipts. If they struggle, I can say listen, 0:52:29.719 --> 0:52:32.239 I had this. These got a five hour radio show. Yes, 0:52:33.200 --> 0:52:35.560 that's a lot of hours. I put in a petition 0:52:35.600 --> 0:52:38.319 to lower it. Any more questions on their day. Uh well, 0:52:38.360 --> 0:52:41.399 actually Austin, Actually Austin had a really good two parter 0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:43.319 which we sort of just touched on this. I love 0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:47.240 his wording here he goes, if a top tier safety 0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:51.480 is acquired via trade, I love that word. Yeah, top 0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:55.120 tier safety from the West Coast doesn't in a state 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.359 where oh oh, by the way, did just real quick 0:52:58.400 --> 0:53:02.200 Stephen Jones told us today about they were not interested 0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:07.239 in read or Acaro. He just said, no, I mean 0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:09.919 that that's so any of those guys who are asked 0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:13.120 about Boston, any of those guys, I mean, they're not 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:15.120 interested in any of those The fact that those guys 0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:18.600 aren't on this team already should tell you that's that's right. Okay. No, 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.840 So if a if a top tier safety is acquired 0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:25.440 via trade, how how would you use them? And he 0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:28.919 I mean, could could Xavier Woods play alongside him? Would 0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:31.719 you use Heath as you're strong and yeah, he who 0:53:31.800 --> 0:53:34.480 must not be named, let me ask you this. You know, 0:53:34.560 --> 0:53:36.680 the guy that might just become just the core Special 0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:39.319 Teams captain guy is Heath? I think so, yeah, because 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:43.480 then what you do play and top tier safety together. Yeah, 0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:45.360 and then what you do is you put Byron Jones 0:53:45.400 --> 0:53:48.359 down covering the big man. Byron Jones is playing, That's 0:53:48.400 --> 0:53:50.400 what he was born to do. Yeah. Byron Jones all 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:52.200 of a sudden now becomes the guy that covers the 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:54.440 big man. So I think the guy that would just 0:53:54.560 --> 0:53:59.200 become full time, full time Special Teams captain man is 0:53:59.320 --> 0:54:02.360 Jeff Heath. Depending on situation, you can move Xavier Woods 0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:04.799 and Cavan Frasier in and out where if we think 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:08.399 they're we think they're gonna run the ball, Frasier's out 0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:12.040 there totally Interchangeable's fine. Yeah, yeah, I just you know, 0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:14.319 I would be exciting. I just kind of feel like 0:54:14.320 --> 0:54:16.840 though that if they if they did get Thomas, that 0:54:16.920 --> 0:54:20.279 they would play. They love Woods enough to do it, 0:54:20.360 --> 0:54:22.600 and they have to figure out something for Frasier though, too. 0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:25.399 Maybe you get two guys like Keathan Frasier. This your 0:54:25.480 --> 0:54:28.359 core guys, and then when you rotate them through, you 0:54:28.400 --> 0:54:30.719 know the you rotate them through and that's what they do. 0:54:30.760 --> 0:54:32.680 But we gotta take you're not taking a role Thomas 0:54:32.760 --> 0:54:35.480 off the field. We gotta trade down. I'm in you 0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:37.759 guys realize we gotta trade down. I'll talk. Let's talk 0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:39.799 about that later on about what we do that we 0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:41.759 gotta trade down. We will. Okay, we're gonna take a 0:54:41.840 --> 0:54:44.120 We're gonna take a break here day. 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A lot 0:57:07.600 --> 0:57:09.520 of our good draft buddies are out here hanging out 0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:12.840 with us. It's fun to interact. Give it away tickets, 0:57:13.440 --> 0:57:16.880 got tickets for the draft for this weekend. We've also 0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.919 got a Jason Witton jersey signed autograph jersey maybe something 0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:24.000 to be nice to have in your collection. Yeah, two 0:57:24.200 --> 0:57:26.560 eighty two. No, you guys are trying to draft his 0:57:26.640 --> 0:57:32.040 replacement right here. He's fifty three, doesn't matter, he's fifty three. Yeah. 0:57:32.120 --> 0:57:34.240 Once you're older than the number of players on the roster, 0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:38.400 you're almost done. Mister Cowboy almost a new mister, new 0:57:38.440 --> 0:57:41.520 mister Cowboy. He's awesome. I like that though. I like 0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:44.120 that in mister Cowboy bit sixteen years he's my he's 0:57:44.200 --> 0:57:47.600 my last. Yeah, that was my last guy left dirt. 0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.160 It was Romo and the secret is in the dirt man. 0:57:50.360 --> 0:57:52.880 You watch that? Hey, watch that dude give a pep 0:57:52.880 --> 0:57:55.400 talk on that TV show All or Nothing. Yeah'll tell 0:57:55.400 --> 0:57:57.360 you what get it? You? Would you would you play 0:57:57.400 --> 0:57:59.080 for him? Would you? I mean, would you as a player? 0:57:59.120 --> 0:58:03.440 Would you be like kill for him? Whoa? Whoa? Literally? 0:58:03.480 --> 0:58:05.320 Do you have a dump button on this? No? I 0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:09.080 think Okay, that was sarcasm. What I meant was I 0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:11.520 would do anything for him. There you go, short of 0:58:11.560 --> 0:58:15.439 taking a life, you would take a bullet for your yourself. Yes, 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:18.400 I would jump in front of a bullet for him. Yeah. 0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.880 You can't get us an executive producing helping us out 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.360 on that's what you're saying. That's what I said. There 0:58:23.360 --> 0:58:25.520 you go, that's nothing wrong with that, Jeff. You know, 0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.560 we yesterday we did a draft for the for the 0:58:28.600 --> 0:58:31.439 Dallas Cowboys who we thought that they would take, and 0:58:32.360 --> 0:58:36.560 just to kind of recap who we did yesterday. Uh, 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:41.040 we had Layton Vanderish at one nineteen, Anthony Miller at 0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:47.720 two fifty, to various more at three eighty one, a 0:58:47.800 --> 0:58:52.360 nice little draft safety from Southern Miss. Then four one sixteen. 0:58:52.520 --> 0:58:55.240 We had a little bit of discussion. Brelan speaks. You 0:58:55.240 --> 0:58:57.320 guys are just going straight down the visit list. Yeah, 0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:01.280 we little optimistic. We try, We tried. Yeah, we tried 0:59:01.320 --> 0:59:03.840 to say. But defensive tackle from Old Miss and then 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:06.960 Cole Madison of course the tackle the guard tackle from 0:59:07.000 --> 0:59:11.280 Washington State was at four thirty seven. Edo Smith, Oh, 0:59:11.320 --> 0:59:13.600 good pick, guys, that was a good pick. Which do 0:59:13.680 --> 0:59:16.000 you like? Which one? Which one the backs do you like? 0:59:16.080 --> 0:59:20.200 Out of that the Edo Smith? Kelly, that crew. Let 0:59:20.280 --> 0:59:22.640 me check my board. I think if you're going that 0:59:22.720 --> 0:59:27.919 deep like niheim Hines that three eighty one't he? Yeah? 0:59:27.960 --> 0:59:31.400 And probably he's probably third round. Yeah Smith, I've got 0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:35.680 right behind Kelly. But Mark Walton John Kelly, Edo Smith 0:59:35.800 --> 0:59:38.720 fourth round. Yeah, and Smith it seems like it's gonna 0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:40.520 go later than that, So I think that's a great pick. 0:59:40.640 --> 0:59:43.200 Edo Smith that yeah, five one seventy one. And then 0:59:43.200 --> 0:59:46.760 we went Desmond Harrison again, this is a six one 0:59:47.080 --> 0:59:51.479 ninety two. And then we went Durham Smith, the tight 0:59:51.640 --> 0:59:54.400 end from Notre Dame at the six one ninety three, 0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:58.320 sky More KT. We had big influence on sky Moore 0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:02.200 at two o eight, six round pick linebacker from South Carolina. 1:00:02.240 --> 1:00:05.000 And then we took Justin Lawlord, the defensive ends from 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:09.240 SMU at seven two thirty six. There's just no way 1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:14.320 they're making ten picks. We just we should around. We 1:00:14.360 --> 1:00:19.480 can't cann j you you now you did a mock 1:00:19.600 --> 1:00:22.680 draft for your for your website, though, is it what 1:00:22.720 --> 1:00:25.800 you did or did you just on your own explain 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:30.760 your the athletic for the athletic um. And so what 1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.240 I did was I fired up the fans speak is 1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:35.360 that you guys did the water. Wait, we just we 1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:38.640 took we picked all we know, we went down, we 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:41.440 right went every single pick, right, we went all the 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:44.320 way through. I did that too, Yeah, but I fired 1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:46.800 up the simulator. And what I did was using my 1:00:46.880 --> 1:00:50.400 board or kind of our board, right, yeah. Uh. At 1:00:50.440 --> 1:00:53.200 each pick, I just stopped to look at who are 1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.640 our highest graded guys available and would I do right? 1:00:55.760 --> 1:00:57.560 And so On the first pick, the guys that were 1:00:57.560 --> 1:01:00.680 available with first round grades were Calvin Ridley right, Ronald 1:01:00.720 --> 1:01:03.160 Jones USC running back, which shouldn't matter, throw it away, 1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:07.040 he's a ruback. James Daniels, the offensive lineman from Iowa 1:01:07.320 --> 1:01:09.760 Maurice Hurst d tackle mission. We need to get the 1:01:09.800 --> 1:01:11.760 medical information from him. I'm trying to get that. I 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:14.280 know some teams I talked to have him completely off 1:01:14.320 --> 1:01:16.560 the board. We need to find this out Thursday, if 1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:19.320 the Cowboys before we get drafted. If that's the case. 1:01:19.520 --> 1:01:22.400 And two corners JayR Alexander at Louisville and my Cues 1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:24.640 at Central Florida. I throughout corner because I think it's 1:01:24.680 --> 1:01:26.760 less of a need than the other ones. And the 1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:29.720 guy I went with was actually James Daniels, not Ridley, 1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:33.880 not Vander esh and Evans were available, Will Hernandez DJ 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:37.360 Moore was available, sure, and I went with James Daniels, okay, 1:01:37.400 --> 1:01:39.680 because I wanted to pick my left guard to see 1:01:39.680 --> 1:01:41.640 what would happen. We're doing I was doing an exercise. 1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:44.880 I liked the pick. I wanted to see problem with it? Okay, 1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:49.080 so he took James Daniels at the one nineteen one 1:01:49.160 --> 1:01:51.920 nineteen was James Daniels. Okay, Now go down to two 1:01:52.440 --> 1:01:55.360 fifty and where were you? What were the names on 1:01:55.400 --> 1:01:58.200 your board at that time? Second round? Guys still available? 1:01:58.280 --> 1:02:00.640 Nick Chubb running back Georgia throw out. We're not picking 1:02:00.640 --> 1:02:04.920 a running back yet. Wide receivers Michael Gallup Okay, Anthony Miller, 1:02:05.480 --> 1:02:09.880 DJ Chark, Trey Kuan Smith at Central Florida, James Washington, 1:02:09.920 --> 1:02:13.200 Oklahoma State. Let me stop you there. You just named 1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:16.000 I think five wide receivers. Why don't want one at nineteen? 1:02:16.560 --> 1:02:18.920 See that I want this at fifty. See, this is 1:02:18.960 --> 1:02:21.000 the problem. I don't know. And I wonder if teams 1:02:21.000 --> 1:02:24.160 are having this problem too, that there's so many guys. 1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.400 Parcels used to say, Oh, they're stacked in there like 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:30.360 club sandwiches. Yeah, can you separate these guys? Is there anything? 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:34.240 It's it's not I know what I'm saying, but there's 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:36.000 not many at the top, but all of a sudden 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:38.840 the second round, they're all like packed in there. Yeah, 1:02:38.880 --> 1:02:40.720 And I kind of thought, Okay, well here's the run, 1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:43.040 but but go ahead. Then I was just I was 1:02:43.320 --> 1:02:45.400 j DJ Moore is my favorite guy in this draft. 1:02:45.880 --> 1:02:47.960 I don't want him at nineteen. It doesn't make sense, 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:52.120 it doesn't don't want is harsh. But there's other options. 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:55.240 So I had one running back, five wide receivers, Hayden 1:02:55.280 --> 1:02:58.640 Hurst to tight end at South Carolina, Tyrell Crosby the 1:02:58.680 --> 1:03:00.840 tack little organ by way I would think about it 1:03:00.840 --> 1:03:03.520 if I hadn't already picked a guard. Sure, Nathan Shepherd 1:03:03.680 --> 1:03:06.320 the d tackle at forty State of him Duke is 1:03:06.360 --> 1:03:09.760 GIA four Wake Forest defensive end, and MJ. Stewart cornerback 1:03:09.840 --> 1:03:14.160 North Carolina. WHOA, that's a little rich for me. Yeah, 1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:15.760 I wouldn't pick him there, but I have him as 1:03:15.760 --> 1:03:18.760 a second round. But these are my second round guys 1:03:18.800 --> 1:03:20.800 that were left. Yeah, I got you. I went Anthony Miller. 1:03:20.920 --> 1:03:24.200 I took Anthony Miller, and I picked the wide receiver. Okay, 1:03:24.280 --> 1:03:27.080 so you got so you've now completely helped the offense. 1:03:27.360 --> 1:03:29.720 Yeah yeah, serious, I'm gonna make so many people mad 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:32.080 with us next back. And I did it. I did 1:03:32.080 --> 1:03:35.959 it on purpose because I was doing an experiment. Every 1:03:36.000 --> 1:03:39.080 Bock draft is an experiment. You're seeing how things look. 1:03:39.200 --> 1:03:41.800 You suck, You're still Let's see if people start throwing 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:44.880 Miller light bottles at us here for the third round. Yeah, 1:03:44.960 --> 1:03:48.640 three eighty one. My third round is available. Darius Leonard linebacker, 1:03:48.760 --> 1:03:53.240 Josie Jewel linebacker, cornerbacks, Duke Dawson at Florida, Nick Nelson 1:03:53.280 --> 1:03:55.560 at Wisconsin knee got a knee you had to worry 1:03:55.560 --> 1:03:58.040 about right there. Six week recovery. They just cleaned up 1:03:58.040 --> 1:04:00.320 the meniscus. Oh you know about that. You know about 1:04:00.320 --> 1:04:05.000 those knee surgeries, right, Yeah, you don't want to eight 1:04:05.040 --> 1:04:07.840 year out on him. Niheem Hines are running back. Yeah, 1:04:07.920 --> 1:04:10.480 Akram Wadley the eye will run him back. I love him, 1:04:10.520 --> 1:04:13.200 by the way. Dane's guy, Ian Thomas, the tight end 1:04:13.200 --> 1:04:15.880 at Indiana. Dave is not coming around on him. Dedron 1:04:16.000 --> 1:04:19.200 Senat and Derek Noddy are my d tackles and strong 1:04:19.280 --> 1:04:22.200 safety Terrell Edmund. I'm about to lose my mind. So 1:04:22.240 --> 1:04:26.400 I picked Ian Thomas why as an experiment, an experiment 1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:28.760 to not help your defense at all. Here was the 1:04:28.840 --> 1:04:32.400 experiment was if I don't take him here, I know 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:34.240 I can't have him in the next round. And I 1:04:34.280 --> 1:04:37.600 don't like any of the tight ends left linebacker. I 1:04:37.640 --> 1:04:39.720 wanted to see what would be availed. You don't need 1:04:39.760 --> 1:04:42.480 a tight end. Why do you need a tight end? 1:04:42.760 --> 1:04:46.240 Because Jason Witten is almost done. Nobody goes down the 1:04:46.240 --> 1:04:49.000 field and the guys behind him have three career catches 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:50.640 and neither one of them is the heir to the throne. 1:04:50.760 --> 1:04:54.240 Is Jason Witten going to retire before the season starts? No? 1:04:54.360 --> 1:04:57.000 Next year? Has he ever missed a game? No? All right, 1:04:57.000 --> 1:04:58.760 then what are we talking about? Well, we need the 1:04:58.800 --> 1:05:01.320 next guy? Why? Because that's how we that's what the 1:05:01.400 --> 1:05:03.360 draft is for when killed, just for the future. Can 1:05:03.440 --> 1:05:06.440 we just draft him twenty second? Why can't do my script? 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:08.280 This is like it's like in sixth grade when you 1:05:08.320 --> 1:05:10.880 built the volcano? What place did you finish? I don't think. 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:13.040 I don't think he has the guy at the wrong spot. Though. 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:15.560 It's not nothing to do with his spots. It's just 1:05:15.560 --> 1:05:18.640 his choices. Yeah, we're down, we're going into so we're 1:05:18.920 --> 1:05:22.560 pick one sixteen sixteen, and he has selected a defensive player. 1:05:22.640 --> 1:05:24.640 He's about to pick a linebacker who won't be there 1:05:24.640 --> 1:05:27.720 at one sixteen, So he might be okay. He was 1:05:27.760 --> 1:05:30.760 in the simulator. It was Dane's board. Darius Lenard is 1:05:30.760 --> 1:05:33.680 the fourth round pick. I don't think he'll be there either. 1:05:33.760 --> 1:05:35.400 I don't think he would be either. This is it 1:05:35.400 --> 1:05:37.560 worked out well here. This is like the guys who 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:39.680 tweet us all day, like, look, I got DJ Moore 1:05:39.720 --> 1:05:42.760 in the third round. That's a great point because after 1:05:42.840 --> 1:05:45.640 Darius Leonard the fifth round is not unrealistic. It was 1:05:45.800 --> 1:05:47.920 Edo Smith, okay, or that might have been the fourth round. 1:05:48.000 --> 1:05:52.840 Comp who'd you get in the sixth Derese Fountain, Northern Iowa? 1:05:52.920 --> 1:05:59.240 See Darius Phillips cornerback, Western Michigan. That's that seems like 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:02.120 the right Let's go back to Fountain though, would you 1:06:02.160 --> 1:06:05.560 like and you're kind of the wide receiver whisper Dane 1:06:05.640 --> 1:06:08.160 has been talking about him the Northern Iowa kid. I 1:06:08.200 --> 1:06:11.520 mean he's like, hey, someone's gonna hit this guy. Maybe 1:06:11.560 --> 1:06:14.440 fourth round, you know that type of Well, we'll talk 1:06:14.520 --> 1:06:17.600 about a little bit about what you saw with him 1:06:17.600 --> 1:06:21.800 at Northern Iowa. He had a terrible quarterback. That's I 1:06:21.840 --> 1:06:23.880 guess that's not what you like about him now. But 1:06:24.000 --> 1:06:26.960 I thought what he liked Brown at Notre Dame well, 1:06:26.960 --> 1:06:29.200 and so did Calvin Ridley, and so did DJ Moore, 1:06:29.280 --> 1:06:32.720 and so did lots of others. But I thought for 1:06:32.800 --> 1:06:35.720 him it was so bad that you're doing some projecting. 1:06:35.760 --> 1:06:37.800 That's why I don't think he'll go all that high, 1:06:37.880 --> 1:06:39.360 because you don't get to see him run a ton 1:06:39.360 --> 1:06:41.600 of routes because of the quarterback limitations. It's a lot 1:06:41.640 --> 1:06:43.240 of stops, it's a lot of slant routes, and it's 1:06:43.240 --> 1:06:44.840 a lot of chunk it down the field and hope. 1:06:45.320 --> 1:06:47.160 But I think he's really really good at the top 1:06:47.200 --> 1:06:49.240 of the route. He is one of the best in 1:06:49.280 --> 1:06:51.120 this class at when we get to the top of 1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:53.400 a route, I have to throw this guy off of 1:06:53.440 --> 1:06:55.560 me because my quarterback's not any good, right and we 1:06:55.600 --> 1:06:58.440 can't run anything down the field. They know I'm running 1:06:58.440 --> 1:07:00.880 stop routes. I just have to move them. And he 1:07:00.920 --> 1:07:03.560 moves them and makes place. Oh he physically moves is 1:07:03.600 --> 1:07:06.920 what he does. Yeah, tested well, Uh, great at the 1:07:06.920 --> 1:07:10.160 Shrine game, great during the Shrine week. Don't know if 1:07:10.200 --> 1:07:12.240 he has a lot of long speed, but he's he's 1:07:12.280 --> 1:07:14.720 got that short area burst. I just I think there's 1:07:14.760 --> 1:07:16.400 a lot to work with. I don't think guy you 1:07:16.440 --> 1:07:18.000 want to throw. He was a guy on the thirty 1:07:18.080 --> 1:07:19.840 visits for a lot of teams that they and the 1:07:19.880 --> 1:07:22.520 reason why is because of the medical because he didn't 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:24.760 go to the combine right, so he had to go 1:07:24.880 --> 1:07:27.320 and hit a lot of these uh you know, get 1:07:27.400 --> 1:07:30.960 physicals because teams didn't know a whole physic didn't know 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:34.200 much about him. So okay, oh I missed Derek Naughty 1:07:34.240 --> 1:07:36.120 the Florida State dtackle. We took him in the fourth 1:07:36.880 --> 1:07:40.800 compick I fourth ron compick. Hate your mock draft because 1:07:40.840 --> 1:07:44.160 I got too many good values. It's Dane's board. They're 1:07:44.160 --> 1:07:48.120 all good players. Yeah, Leonard's probably not there. Naughty I 1:07:48.680 --> 1:07:51.840 doubt is there. Fountain maybe not. But other than that, 1:07:51.880 --> 1:07:53.520 we're good. I'll tell you what I liked it. You 1:07:53.600 --> 1:07:55.080 can just move Leonard up to the third if it 1:07:55.080 --> 1:07:56.680 makes you feel bad. It doesn't, then we'll just play 1:07:56.720 --> 1:07:58.560 it out a different way. It does make me feel better. 1:07:58.960 --> 1:08:01.760 You don't like it because because the the just the 1:08:01.880 --> 1:08:04.800 because it'll be there. No, No, he's probably because of 1:08:04.800 --> 1:08:08.960 the offensive players. It's well, it's okay. I don't think 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:10.760 this team needs a tight end on day one or 1:08:10.840 --> 1:08:14.240 day two or you know what I'm trying to like. 1:08:14.240 --> 1:08:16.160 I don't see the point. This team needs somebody to 1:08:16.240 --> 1:08:18.000 run down the field and make a pleasure. Right now, 1:08:18.040 --> 1:08:20.479 they have zero people to not gonna be on the field. 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:23.760 He's not gonna be on the field. I'm not well. 1:08:23.760 --> 1:08:25.280 When is the coach? When are we When are you 1:08:25.280 --> 1:08:27.960 gonna have the coaching staff informed? Jason Witten? We love you, 1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:29.800 You're a captain. You play a bunch of snaps. You 1:08:29.800 --> 1:08:31.800 don't play every snap? Do you believe that? All again, 1:08:31.880 --> 1:08:34.040 this goes back to what you think should happen, or 1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:36.639 what you think will happen. Should happen to this doesn't? 1:08:36.680 --> 1:08:39.600 That does nothing for me. I'm here to coach. Should 1:08:39.720 --> 1:08:43.519 happen does nothing for me. Will happen matters? And I'm 1:08:43.560 --> 1:08:46.840 saying Jason Witten will play ninety five percent or more 1:08:46.840 --> 1:08:48.479 of the snaps. All right, we'll pick a tight end 1:08:48.520 --> 1:08:50.400 in twenty twenty one. There we go. That's fine. That 1:08:50.520 --> 1:08:52.719 might be a new staff. The other thing is good point, 1:08:53.000 --> 1:08:55.519 you really feel good enough about this defense that you're 1:08:55.520 --> 1:08:57.519 not going to address it until the third or fourth round. 1:08:57.560 --> 1:08:59.320 I feel pretty good about this defense. I think if 1:08:59.320 --> 1:09:02.840 you pick up up one linebacker that you think can 1:09:02.960 --> 1:09:05.080 play fifty percent of the snaps, you're okay on defense 1:09:05.960 --> 1:09:08.720 by picking him where you did too, I do I 1:09:08.800 --> 1:09:12.840 like him. I like Leonard too. I know to be 1:09:13.360 --> 1:09:16.679 I'll argue against myself. Anthony Hitchins was not a bad 1:09:16.680 --> 1:09:18.920 player as a rookie as a fourth round pick. Oh, 1:09:19.000 --> 1:09:21.800 it was really good. So I mean it can be done. 1:09:21.840 --> 1:09:25.080 But man, I really we could have taken Josie Jewel there. 1:09:25.200 --> 1:09:27.040 Surely you think he can step in and play right? 1:09:27.120 --> 1:09:31.040 The offense is just not The offense is not a 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:32.880 problem for me right now, Like there's ways you could 1:09:32.920 --> 1:09:35.880 improve it, to be sure. Okay, So here's what I'm doing. 1:09:36.000 --> 1:09:37.640 What I'm doing is what you've been doing to me. 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:41.479 I'm asking what is this team going to do? Like 1:09:41.720 --> 1:09:45.960 with this coaching staff, I think your struggles are if 1:09:46.000 --> 1:09:48.360 adversity hits, somebody gets hurt, how are we going to 1:09:48.400 --> 1:09:51.400 do adjust for it? Now? If everything is perfect, how 1:09:51.400 --> 1:09:53.840 are we going to win with this team? We're going 1:09:53.880 --> 1:09:56.799 to block everyone, We're going to protect our quarterback perfectly, 1:09:56.800 --> 1:09:58.840 and we're gonna get five or six yards every point. 1:09:58.920 --> 1:10:01.400 That's our plan. So let's get the players to do it. 1:10:01.439 --> 1:10:03.720 But I think you can do that without using your 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:06.160 nineteenth overall pick on a guard well, then why don't 1:10:06.160 --> 1:10:08.960 we do it better? Well, I mean there's that what 1:10:09.000 --> 1:10:10.880 if we score on every drive? I get it, we 1:10:10.920 --> 1:10:13.720 could do that. Man, I just I just can't. I 1:10:13.760 --> 1:10:16.920 just can't understand. I cannot stop thinking about that three 1:10:17.000 --> 1:10:19.680 or four games stretch where they didn't have an effective 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:22.720 linebacker and they literally looked like a high school team. 1:10:22.760 --> 1:10:25.960 Oh be honest. My biggest problem is that we watched 1:10:26.040 --> 1:10:28.759 the players. That's my biggest problem is that in these spots, 1:10:28.760 --> 1:10:30.960 when I got there, it's my best player. When I 1:10:31.000 --> 1:10:33.000 got there, it's my best player. And I have to 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:36.000 go away from that at positions where I do need 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:39.080 help in order to go a different route. How do 1:10:39.160 --> 1:10:43.080 you think they see their defense? Well, they gotta know 1:10:43.120 --> 1:10:45.439 they need a linebacker or two. How about two. They 1:10:45.439 --> 1:10:47.240 got to know they need at least one. Problem. There's 1:10:47.280 --> 1:10:49.920 things I don't always agree with Nicky about, But Nicky's like, 1:10:49.960 --> 1:10:52.519 look at the linebackers. They need a safety, just one 1:10:52.520 --> 1:10:55.120 in the room. He doesn't have to it's depth, but 1:10:55.200 --> 1:10:57.880 they need How about the safety? About the long term 1:10:57.880 --> 1:11:01.000 outlook of your defensive tackles. I want to know from 1:11:01.040 --> 1:11:03.719 the time we started this show until right now, I've 1:11:03.760 --> 1:11:06.920 gone from like maybe they'll pick Vita Vea too. They 1:11:06.920 --> 1:11:09.680 gotta pick Vita Vea. Like this sounds great to me. 1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:11.800 I like that you're helping out a lot of people 1:11:11.840 --> 1:11:14.760 with that pick, right, And I mean you taught David 1:11:14.800 --> 1:11:17.519 Irving what's his long term future here? Yeah, he's got 1:11:17.520 --> 1:11:21.160 one year exactly. See to me, looking at these defens 1:11:21.439 --> 1:11:23.320 with David Irving, I look at I look at a 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:28.719 situation where they go the defensive tackles it was yesterday. 1:11:28.720 --> 1:11:31.040 Didn't bother me. I'm sitting in a situation where I'm 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:34.679 thinking they need defensive tackles anyway. I mean it wasn't. 1:11:35.320 --> 1:11:38.880 I mean, if you look at being hurt, that needs 1:11:38.880 --> 1:11:41.320 a little more dire if he can't play at all 1:11:41.360 --> 1:11:44.439 because he's not available for sure. So sure, I mean 1:11:44.479 --> 1:11:47.439 there's that yeah. So see, I'm just I just don't 1:11:47.479 --> 1:11:50.280 know what they really think about their defense, you know, 1:11:50.720 --> 1:11:53.240 because they talked about it today with you know, Chris Richard. 1:11:53.320 --> 1:11:55.200 You know, they said, oh, we're gonna do some things different. 1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:57.800 They have Byron Jones and all. You know, what, what 1:11:57.800 --> 1:11:59.960 are they going to do different? I mean they're glad, 1:12:00.320 --> 1:12:03.400 they're glass half full people, and I'm a glass half empty. Person. 1:12:03.520 --> 1:12:08.200 Sure's how I am. So, I'm sure that even had 1:12:08.240 --> 1:12:11.599 a quarterback in a decade. Now, I'm just taking shots 1:12:11.760 --> 1:12:14.680 they can do that because nobody cares how ableeen Christian does. 1:12:14.720 --> 1:12:18.280 That's a good point, um, But I'm sure they I'm 1:12:18.280 --> 1:12:20.439 sure they feel good about it, and you know, in 1:12:20.479 --> 1:12:23.400 the optimistic sense. But again, I mean, if there is 1:12:23.439 --> 1:12:26.600 a position on a football team that they feel like 1:12:26.640 --> 1:12:28.960 they have to address in this draft, it's got to 1:12:28.960 --> 1:12:32.240 be linebacker, right yeah, I would think. So if I 1:12:32.280 --> 1:12:35.920 tell you could only make one pick this weekend, what 1:12:36.000 --> 1:12:40.880 are you picking one pick? Yeah? I need lineback, I means, yeah, yeah, 1:12:40.880 --> 1:12:44.360 I'm gonna pick the best play, all right. I Well, 1:12:44.400 --> 1:12:48.360 I'm okay. I admire Jeffrey I do, and I know 1:12:48.560 --> 1:12:50.640 I get where he's coming from. But I don't know 1:12:50.760 --> 1:12:52.760 there's You're right, I factor in need too, But I 1:12:52.800 --> 1:12:55.120 think you need a linebacker. I do think you need 1:12:55.160 --> 1:12:57.720 an offensive line. Well, but I mean me personally, I 1:12:57.760 --> 1:12:59.679 mean I came from the school in Green Bay where 1:12:59.760 --> 1:13:03.160 it was it was best available. I mean I learned 1:13:03.200 --> 1:13:07.160 about Lamar Jackson. That's I mean, that's let me ask 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:10.080 you this, that's crazy talk, right Well, in and in 1:13:10.160 --> 1:13:12.080 a in a in a vacuum, it's not. But for 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:16.240 this team it is. Well ask me what go ahead? No, no, 1:13:16.320 --> 1:13:19.880 I mean that's it's an interesting thought. Well, Lamar Jackson's 1:13:19.880 --> 1:13:21.360 there at nineteen. Is he the best player on that? 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:23.760 And that is an extreme example, one of the one 1:13:23.760 --> 1:13:25.439 of my top guys. You can take it back. You 1:13:25.439 --> 1:13:27.320 can take it back to last year. Dalvin Cook was 1:13:27.360 --> 1:13:32.200 there when they picked and there ended up. It's turned 1:13:32.200 --> 1:13:36.080 into best it's best available, best available with need, right, 1:13:36.160 --> 1:13:38.599 that's what it's turned to and need. But I think 1:13:38.920 --> 1:13:43.080 unless you are the Ron Wolf Green Bay Packers, and 1:13:43.120 --> 1:13:45.880 unless unless we just know you're going to the playoffs, 1:13:46.160 --> 1:13:49.080 then that that's how everybody funds. But the probably the 1:13:49.080 --> 1:13:50.680 thing about it is I felt like though, if you 1:13:50.760 --> 1:13:53.439 did best available player to start and then you hit 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:56.720 needs after the first two rounds, then I felt like 1:13:56.760 --> 1:13:59.960 you you had best you know, at least of a chance. 1:14:00.040 --> 1:14:03.360 It's of missing that first pick. That's kind of what 1:14:03.400 --> 1:14:05.800 I always thought. I sound like a broken record, but 1:14:05.840 --> 1:14:09.479 I've never been more clueless or more intrigued about what 1:14:09.479 --> 1:14:11.519 they're gonna do. And in the first round, I mean, 1:14:11.640 --> 1:14:15.320 you know, the big picks. I mean, either this is 1:14:15.320 --> 1:14:18.040 a fascinating draft. It's I think it's I think this 1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:20.200 is gonna be an all timer. Not in I mean, 1:14:20.520 --> 1:14:22.320 who knows what it's gonna be like in terms of 1:14:22.320 --> 1:14:25.680 like how it pans out. Honestly, if like this, I 1:14:25.720 --> 1:14:27.599 feel like this could be a lot like twenty thirteen, 1:14:27.640 --> 1:14:29.720 where you look at it and you're like, a lot 1:14:29.720 --> 1:14:31.839 of these guys were not very good. Let me ask 1:14:31.880 --> 1:14:34.599 But in terms of the unpredictability of it, I think 1:14:34.600 --> 1:14:36.640 it's gonna be one of the craziest drafts. Let me 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:38.240 ask you this. There's a guy who won't let me 1:14:38.240 --> 1:14:40.599 take an offensive line I didn't say that. Do you 1:14:40.680 --> 1:14:44.639 acknowledge that in the first three rounds you think, hope 1:14:44.680 --> 1:14:46.880 and dream that it's a linebacker, a wide receiver, and 1:14:46.880 --> 1:14:52.040 an offensive lineman in some order. Yes, Okay, that's yes. 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:54.880 I think that's the ideal. So we're just arguing about order. Okay, 1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:57.760 I get you, I'll get you to the second round, 1:14:57.760 --> 1:14:59.800 shall I should I go through the order that we've 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:02.519 best combinations that we talked about with Yeah, that was 1:15:02.600 --> 1:15:04.559 one of my favorite shows. Do you still you have 1:15:04.600 --> 1:15:06.320 to have the list? Right? Yeah? Give it to me 1:15:06.439 --> 1:15:08.400 that one? All right? Now? I'm gonna give it to you. Okay, 1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:10.800 I give it to you. We had best combinations, Okay, 1:15:10.920 --> 1:15:12.880 and you weren't here. Give me the one with Quentin Nelson. 1:15:13.280 --> 1:15:17.880 Best combinations were at some point? Yeah, didn't we really? No? No, 1:15:18.439 --> 1:15:22.280 best combination one stopped stepping on my cord. Cavanaugh, your 1:15:22.400 --> 1:15:24.560 cord and the right place. Have a little respect for 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:31.400 Miller Lite best best best combinations. Ridley Jewel Bates. Okay, 1:15:31.520 --> 1:15:34.439 Ridley Jewel Bait. That's a good one. Order did you go? 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:37.840 I just spoiler alert. They're all They're all good. That's 1:15:37.840 --> 1:15:41.680 the point. No, they're not. How about DJ Moore Shepherd 1:15:41.920 --> 1:15:48.760 and More the Safety Shepherd to various more and more too. McGlinchey, 1:15:49.000 --> 1:15:54.160 Jisicky Warner, Is that one again? Mc McGlinchey, Jisicky and Warner. 1:15:55.000 --> 1:15:58.759 That one's out. I'm not even ok Vanderesh Harrison, Saint Brown. 1:15:58.800 --> 1:16:01.320 I don't have to write that one now, Okay, Landry Miller, 1:16:01.479 --> 1:16:08.320 Leonard This is fun Landry Miller and Leonard Okay, Evans 1:16:08.760 --> 1:16:15.680 Sharts sonat Oh, that's fun. I don't remember. Go ahead, sorry? 1:16:15.720 --> 1:16:19.559 And then how about Hernandez Gallop and Avery oh Man 1:16:19.600 --> 1:16:22.160 after my own heart? You like that one, well, yeah, 1:16:22.240 --> 1:16:25.080 Gallup gives that one extra points. And then and then 1:16:25.320 --> 1:16:31.280 last one would be Veya Golden and Hamilton Penn State Hamiltons. Okay, 1:16:31.400 --> 1:16:33.479 let's see. And I asked those I asked the guys 1:16:33.520 --> 1:16:35.800 what that? Who would be their best combination at it? 1:16:35.840 --> 1:16:38.320 Since you guys brought up the best combination or you're 1:16:38.360 --> 1:16:40.280 talking about it, I was curious, Now, what do you 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:43.680 think about that? The best three combination? I think the 1:16:43.760 --> 1:16:46.439 last time we hate that. I didn't get a guard here, 1:16:46.720 --> 1:16:49.759 but Landry Miller Leonard is really, really good. Landry Miller 1:16:49.920 --> 1:16:52.240 Leonard is the only one that matters. To throw them 1:16:52.240 --> 1:16:55.280 all out. I didn't get a guard though. It doesn't matter. 1:16:55.600 --> 1:16:59.840 Dave got Marcus Martin. You can't just say words and 1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:02.880 make them starters. So your guard ass her Nandez Gallop 1:17:02.960 --> 1:17:06.800 and you like Gallop? I do like Gallop. So what 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:08.760 do we think about Avery? It's the Memphis kid. I 1:17:08.880 --> 1:17:11.360 love him. Throw Joe Looney in there at guard. It'll 1:17:11.400 --> 1:17:15.800 be fine. Oh we're gonna stop that. If if Joe 1:17:15.800 --> 1:17:17.880 Loudey were here, I would hug Joe Looney. That doesn't 1:17:17.920 --> 1:17:21.000 make him a starter. Really, you did a lot of 1:17:21.000 --> 1:17:23.920 good drafts. Did anybody tell you that? Yeah, these are 1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:27.240 all very good. Brian's really good at making you make 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:31.160 an unfortunate choice. I'm gonna eliminate the one with Hamilton 1:17:31.400 --> 1:17:36.440 and and Golf just because I love Miller and Gallop more. Yeah, 1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:40.760 Dj Moore Shepherd is the fort Hayes Dey tackles him 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:45.920 and more the free safety. That's good. Ridley Jewel Bates 1:17:46.560 --> 1:17:50.639 is better, So that's out. Okay, he's keeping the guard alive, Dave. 1:17:51.520 --> 1:17:53.720 You know I'm keeping the guard alive. But I thought 1:17:53.760 --> 1:17:56.080 he'd keep the guard alive because he likes Gallop. I 1:17:56.120 --> 1:18:00.160 don't have Evans as a one, so they're out to 1:18:00.760 --> 1:18:03.920 Oh okay, we got three good drafts. Ridley Jewel Bates, Yeah, 1:18:04.640 --> 1:18:11.760 Landry Anthony Miller, Darius Leonard Hernandez Gallop Avery. Yah. Are 1:18:11.800 --> 1:18:14.120 you comfortable with Avery playing fifty percent of the snaps 1:18:14.200 --> 1:18:18.400 as your mic? Sure? I am. I'm coming very comfortable 1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:22.560 with him. And by the way, if you're on periscope 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:25.080 as well, give us sure three I'll read off some 1:18:25.200 --> 1:18:27.879 of these. The only reason this is hard is because 1:18:28.320 --> 1:18:31.240 Jeff is stubborn lying at hearing. Oh no, he That's 1:18:31.280 --> 1:18:34.200 what I'm saying we're seeing how how much he's dug 1:18:34.320 --> 1:18:37.080 in on taking a guard, which is first Mickey would 1:18:37.080 --> 1:18:39.960 say guard, they need a guard, they need a garden 1:18:40.160 --> 1:18:45.720 one on Dallas Cowboys. Oh it's it's get the ten 1:18:45.840 --> 1:18:49.000 sack pass. Landry would be the best first round pick 1:18:49.080 --> 1:18:50.760 of the group. To me, well, now he's trying to 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:52.880 mix and match. No, no, no, I just I'm trying 1:18:52.920 --> 1:18:55.439 to I'm power ranking here. Ridley is the second best 1:18:55.520 --> 1:19:00.439 first round pick. Hernandez is third. The best second round 1:19:00.479 --> 1:19:07.320 pick is Michael Gallop, the second best is Miller, the 1:19:07.520 --> 1:19:12.879 third best is Jewel. The best third round pick is Bates. 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:18.160 That's a number one. Second best will be Leonard. I 1:19:18.240 --> 1:19:22.559 feel like I'm watching, so we're adding and like golf, 1:19:22.640 --> 1:19:25.639 we want a low number. That one's seven, that one's five, 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:30.120 and this one is six, which means our winner is Landry, Miller, Leonard. 1:19:31.040 --> 1:19:32.760 And you know that's the one that I said five 1:19:32.840 --> 1:19:34.880 minutes ago. And you know it's funny about that one 1:19:34.880 --> 1:19:38.240 that's probably got time to fill, but that that is 1:19:38.280 --> 1:19:41.840 probably the one that has the least chance of happening. Happen. Yeah, 1:19:42.720 --> 1:19:44.760 y won't be there when you could argue none of 1:19:44.800 --> 1:19:48.559 the three. Can I ask you this. I'm sure I'm 1:19:48.560 --> 1:19:51.200 gonna hijack this for a second. You surely may cheers? 1:19:51.360 --> 1:19:55.200 Are we uh? Are we talking enough? Are we not 1:19:55.360 --> 1:19:58.519 talking enough about the trade doown? Scenario? Is that we 1:19:58.600 --> 1:20:00.559 need to trade doown? Is it realist stick to think 1:20:00.600 --> 1:20:03.840 that they could? Which? Yeah, absolutely, I think ninety percent 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:08.519 of Cowboys, fans, analysts, whatever would say a trade down 1:20:08.600 --> 1:20:12.719 sounds favorable. My dream is it possible? He Can't's possible? 1:20:12.760 --> 1:20:14.519 And here's my dream for you. This is my dream 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:17.400 for you, my dream for you. We're gonna trade down. 1:20:17.439 --> 1:20:18.960 You can do a lot of work with an extra 1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:20.880 day to pick you. Guys are gonna have to find 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:24.600 the destination to where we're going downs. Were player. We 1:20:24.680 --> 1:20:27.040 got to determine where the value of the player is. 1:20:27.080 --> 1:20:29.599 We're picking Evans. Okay, we're going down and we're picking 1:20:29.720 --> 1:20:33.200 Rashaun Evans. Who's trade getting your linebacker for you? Yeah? 1:20:33.280 --> 1:20:38.040 I'm in. Somebody's coming up for mcglinchew. Okay, New England, Okay, okay, 1:20:38.160 --> 1:20:40.280 let's talk about the teams that could come up then. 1:20:40.840 --> 1:20:47.400 New England at twenty three, Carolina twenty four, because Cincinnati 1:20:47.479 --> 1:20:51.519 could use an offensive lineman so could Detroit. So that's 1:20:51.640 --> 1:20:54.720 that twenty and twenty one. So New England at twenty three, 1:20:54.880 --> 1:21:01.120 Carolina at twenty four, New Orleans at twenty seven. Is 1:21:01.200 --> 1:21:04.080 there a dire need for a tackle there? They have 1:21:04.240 --> 1:21:07.160 ram Chick the well, okay, I'm thinking they're gonna maybe 1:21:07.160 --> 1:21:09.639 we'll get Connor Williams. Say they're going to get Connor Williams, 1:21:09.640 --> 1:21:11.800 who they they could play guards center. Okay, because they 1:21:11.920 --> 1:21:16.320 worked out Connor Williams as as that guy. They worked 1:21:16.320 --> 1:21:19.960 out that as him as a guard center combination. So 1:21:21.040 --> 1:21:25.000 so I'm hey, anybody that wants them, I'm all for it. 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:27.680 Trade up, give me your picks. Let's go third round pick. 1:21:28.160 --> 1:21:30.680 You know, you pick up an extra three. What is 1:21:30.800 --> 1:21:32.560 what in New England? What does New England have to 1:21:32.640 --> 1:21:35.000 give me to go up from twenty three, Because that's 1:21:35.040 --> 1:21:36.560 not a huge job. They've got to give you the 1:21:36.640 --> 1:21:38.320 third round pick. And let's see if they've got a 1:21:38.360 --> 1:21:39.920 third they've got let's see what they've got on third 1:21:40.000 --> 1:21:43.880 round picks. The third round picks at ninety five. Yeah, 1:21:44.000 --> 1:21:46.080 so you would pick up you would pick up ninety five, 1:21:46.200 --> 1:21:48.840 so that would give you you would be picking again 1:21:49.000 --> 1:21:51.840 at let's say you'd pick at twenty three, twenty three. 1:21:56.000 --> 1:21:58.320 Evaluate that trade we're picking up. Let's get all the numbers. 1:21:58.400 --> 1:22:01.360 Let's evaluate the trade with the trade. Hold on. We 1:22:01.520 --> 1:22:03.360 are going from no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:05.639 give me, just give me. That's the that's New England. 1:22:05.880 --> 1:22:07.840 That's New England. Just say that's New England. If we 1:22:07.920 --> 1:22:09.920 make that trade, that's New England. Yeah, put in New 1:22:09.920 --> 1:22:13.040 England there. If we go to Carolina, I'm not following 1:22:13.120 --> 1:22:14.560 him either. Oh no, no, I got it now. It 1:22:14.600 --> 1:22:15.920 took me a minute, but I got it now. He's 1:22:15.960 --> 1:22:18.280 just saying labelt. That's if we try, yeah, label and 1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:20.120 see which one's the best trade for us here. Okay, 1:22:20.200 --> 1:22:22.479 you're going to Carolina. That's gonna also net you a 1:22:22.640 --> 1:22:26.599 third round pick. Carolina has in the third round. Let's 1:22:26.600 --> 1:22:31.479 see what they've got. Carolina will be at eighty five, 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:34.080 and they got one at eighty five and one at 1:22:34.160 --> 1:22:37.200 eighty eight, so they've got two of them. So you 1:22:37.280 --> 1:22:39.280 can pick at twenty four. Both of them are aways 1:22:39.280 --> 1:22:41.719 ahead of ninety five. There for giving up one spot, 1:22:41.760 --> 1:22:43.839 and we can still get Evans. We're going to Carolina 1:22:43.960 --> 1:22:47.200 twenty four, fifty eighty one and eighty five Yep, we're 1:22:47.200 --> 1:22:49.559 going to Carolina. Yeah, I like that. Okay about okay, 1:22:49.880 --> 1:22:53.240 now let's evaluate the Saints. This is gonna be the Saints. 1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:55.920 You're gonna give you a three and a four to 1:22:56.120 --> 1:22:59.679 move up to your spot. So think about that. Okay, 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:02.040 we know we're gonna get our guy at twenty seven. 1:23:02.360 --> 1:23:06.360 Who are our guys? Can we say Evans and Hernandez 1:23:06.760 --> 1:23:11.760 Evans as um a receiver? I mean yeah, I think 1:23:11.760 --> 1:23:14.160 you thought you could think about your receivers. We'll get 1:23:14.160 --> 1:23:15.679 a guy. We'll get a guy we really like because 1:23:15.720 --> 1:23:18.040 in the mock draft yesterday, DJ Moore went to Carolina 1:23:18.040 --> 1:23:20.640 at twenty four. Not only that, but I'm if you 1:23:20.720 --> 1:23:22.800 give me two extra picks and move me back to 1:23:22.880 --> 1:23:26.360 twenty seven, I'm I'll draft Courtland Sudden. I'll take him 1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:28.439 at twenty seven if I get two extra picks. Okay, 1:23:28.479 --> 1:23:33.599 with that two extra picks? Am I okay? With that pick? Yeah? 1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:34.720 Let me let me give you the one to know 1:23:34.800 --> 1:23:36.920 the other names available, Yes, let me get you. Let 1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:38.519 me get you the names. Let me let me get 1:23:38.520 --> 1:23:41.400 you the picks. Okay. If we moved to if we 1:23:41.479 --> 1:23:43.600 moved to New Orleans again, that's going from nineteen to 1:23:43.720 --> 1:23:46.000 twenty seven. That's a third round in a fourth round 1:23:46.520 --> 1:23:50.760 the Saints currently own they own they would own a 1:23:50.960 --> 1:23:55.160 pick number ninety one that would be in the third round, 1:23:56.320 --> 1:23:59.599 and then let's go and they would own pick one 1:24:00.080 --> 1:24:06.000 twenty six. So those are their two picks. So the Saints, yeah, 1:24:06.000 --> 1:24:10.920 that's what's gonna rather take the Carolina trade. Yeah, because 1:24:10.960 --> 1:24:13.280 the Carolina trade him at twenty four instead of twenty seven, 1:24:13.320 --> 1:24:15.600 and I get eighty five instead of ninety one and 1:24:15.640 --> 1:24:18.839 one twenty six, I agree with what I'll take Carolina. 1:24:19.160 --> 1:24:22.040 So all right, does Carolina offer your spot then where 1:24:22.080 --> 1:24:24.400 you feel like you can take the guy you need? Yes, 1:24:24.920 --> 1:24:27.080 and we've determined it's Evans, right, is that who we're 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:30.160 trading down four to acknowledge the biggest need, and we're 1:24:30.200 --> 1:24:32.280 gonna pick the mic he's playing ball. He's playing ball. 1:24:32.320 --> 1:24:33.920 I'm trying to be your friend. Yeah, you're trying to 1:24:33.960 --> 1:24:35.760 be your friend like that because then I'm gonna get 1:24:35.800 --> 1:24:37.720 my receiver. And if we need to package these to 1:24:37.760 --> 1:24:39.800 come get our linebacker, we can do it. Where can 1:24:39.840 --> 1:24:44.799 you take pain durn Payne? Not in the first okay, 1:24:44.840 --> 1:24:47.160 but you're already but you're you're thinking about you're really 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:50.040 drafted second round players at twenty four anyway, right, twenty 1:24:50.080 --> 1:24:54.040 four scenes high. Twenty four is a little high for 1:24:54.080 --> 1:24:56.720 Evans too, but again I need the linebacker. Who do 1:24:56.760 --> 1:24:58.760 you feel better about? Then? You feel better about Evans 1:24:58.840 --> 1:25:01.160 than you do? Ye? Really better than Pain? Yeah? Okay? 1:25:01.160 --> 1:25:04.759 Do you feel about your guard? Hernandez? Hernandez versus Evans 1:25:04.800 --> 1:25:08.559 and Pain? Hernandez might be my top guy out of those. Yeah, 1:25:09.880 --> 1:25:12.439 I'll take but Dave. We gotta do what David's doing. Oh, 1:25:12.479 --> 1:25:15.080 we can go now, Okay, can we go? Yeah, okay, 1:25:15.080 --> 1:25:17.679 we're taking Hernandez. Jeric. I didn't know Dave was gonna 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:19.400 let us. That's why I was trading down. I'll take 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:21.920 Hernandez at twenty four. Okay, So what if I get 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:24.600 Daniels at twenty four? Huh? I don't think so. What 1:25:24.720 --> 1:25:27.719 if Daniels goes off? They because the team that worries 1:25:27.760 --> 1:25:29.800 the team and Saniels is gonna go twenty or twenty one. 1:25:30.280 --> 1:25:33.320 That's what I'm saying, Go to Detroit, Detroit or Cincinnati. 1:25:33.400 --> 1:25:38.040 That's Cincinnati will take a big ten player. That's what 1:25:38.120 --> 1:25:41.559 they do. They do. That's the that's the Paul Brown 1:25:41.760 --> 1:25:43.800 I'm waiting doing things. I'm gonna trust you because you 1:25:43.920 --> 1:25:46.680 called Joe Mixing to Cincinnati like sure had a time. 1:25:47.479 --> 1:25:50.240 Everybody drafts big ten players. We talk about game no, no, no, 1:25:50.320 --> 1:25:53.080 But the Bengals. I gambled on Mixing going to Cincinnati, 1:25:53.280 --> 1:25:55.200 but I didn't know they would trade back. So I 1:25:55.280 --> 1:25:57.400 lost the wager because it was an over under number, 1:25:57.400 --> 1:25:59.000 and I knew who was gonna pick him. I just 1:25:59.040 --> 1:26:01.400 didn't know they'd trade back picking. That's a bummer. That hurt. 1:26:02.320 --> 1:26:04.720 That hurt. I'm sorry, but you feel like, Okay, you 1:26:04.800 --> 1:26:06.760 don't want to, you don't want you don't like. What 1:26:06.880 --> 1:26:09.479 if the Saints just off you there two? Would you 1:26:09.520 --> 1:26:12.640 feel better about that instead of taking the back to 1:26:12.720 --> 1:26:14.960 back picks that you didn't you get there? Two? There? Two? 1:26:15.080 --> 1:26:17.680 To do? What to to come up to? Come up 1:26:18.080 --> 1:26:22.280 to kid? Maybe they're doing good? What's there too? Come 1:26:22.320 --> 1:26:25.519 home fifty something? Well, let's make sure they have a two. 1:26:25.760 --> 1:26:27.479 I don't see a two. Foh you know what did 1:26:27.520 --> 1:26:29.599 they give up there too to get Kamara last year? 1:26:29.680 --> 1:26:31.679 They probably did. They don't have it too. They don't 1:26:31.680 --> 1:26:34.360 have a two. Oh, I'll screw them, no, go away. Yeah, 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:37.920 we're traded with Carolina, Brian So, okay, so our trade back, 1:26:38.000 --> 1:26:40.000 our spot we want to get to then as Carolina, 1:26:40.000 --> 1:26:43.320 all right, yep, rather than y'all get y'all get so 1:26:43.439 --> 1:26:46.960 wrapped up in these hypothetical specifics. What I want to know, 1:26:48.160 --> 1:26:51.720 is it realistic to trade back, come up for who 1:26:51.760 --> 1:26:54.080 could be there at nineteen? That makes somebody want to 1:26:54.120 --> 1:26:57.200 come up, That's what I want. McGlinchey. McGlinchey, Yeah, maybe 1:26:57.439 --> 1:27:02.320 maybe Connor Williams maybe, yeah, Colton Miller, yeah, any not 1:27:02.400 --> 1:27:04.400 for me, but somebody for Colton Miller. Yeah. Do any 1:27:04.479 --> 1:27:07.040 of us believe that it could be a quarterback? I don't. 1:27:07.560 --> 1:27:10.120 I think the quarterbacks are gone by fifteen. Get somebody 1:27:10.160 --> 1:27:12.760 to come up for vander esh us not pick him. No, 1:27:13.360 --> 1:27:16.800 nobody's trading up for a Boise Stay linebacker. I think 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:21.360 that's hurtful. I'm sorry. So it's Carolina. It's gotta beIN. 1:27:21.479 --> 1:27:23.200 You're taking a line. It's got to be one of 1:27:23.240 --> 1:27:26.240 these tackles, And it makes I just I don't put 1:27:26.280 --> 1:27:28.439 that much stock in the thought of trading back because 1:27:28.479 --> 1:27:31.720 I don't know how likely that is. What if you 1:27:31.760 --> 1:27:34.040 win all the way back to my especially when people 1:27:34.120 --> 1:27:36.479 have great dreams do you immediately when they wake up? 1:27:37.000 --> 1:27:39.880 Wasn't real? I'm the guy that craps on your dreams. Yeah, 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:43.240 that's me. That's kind of my brand. Unfortunately it's the 1:27:43.400 --> 1:27:45.800 terrible brand. But that's just the card that's I've been dealt. 1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:47.880 All right, You won't go to New Orleans? Though? Would 1:27:47.880 --> 1:27:50.040 you go to? Would you go to Pittsburgh for their second? 1:27:50.439 --> 1:27:53.120 Would you go to would you go to the twenty 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:55.960 nine yeast? Would be coming up for a linebacker? What's there? 1:27:56.040 --> 1:27:58.360 What's their second? Maybe coming up for vander Their second 1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:01.720 is at A sixty twenty nine. Oh so we're doing 1:28:01.760 --> 1:28:06.040 twenty fifteen all over again? Yeah, so you're doing twenty nine, 1:28:07.720 --> 1:28:12.679 twenty nine fifty sixty, Yeah, twenty nine fifty sixty. Yeah again, 1:28:12.760 --> 1:28:15.679 because at twenty nine, I feel comfortable drafting Courtland Sutton. 1:28:15.760 --> 1:28:17.640 I don't think Pittsburgh's gonna move beyond the way if 1:28:17.640 --> 1:28:19.800 you do, if you study their history, they're just gonna 1:28:19.840 --> 1:28:22.080 wait for Rashana. They're gonna sit there. That the aggressive 1:28:22.120 --> 1:28:24.280 team is maybe New England? All right? Now going to 1:28:24.400 --> 1:28:28.120 thirty one, you're interested in going doing that? We already 1:28:28.120 --> 1:28:29.960 went to twenty three. But again, what can what can 1:28:30.080 --> 1:28:32.720 they offer me, So thirty one, they got picks, they've 1:28:32.720 --> 1:28:36.400 got there, there's they're six, they're they're one hundred and seventy. 1:28:36.439 --> 1:28:39.200 They're actually two hundred and seventy five light if we are, 1:28:39.479 --> 1:28:41.960 if we are dropping twelve spots, it better be a 1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:45.880 hell of a train. You need sixty three twenty or so, 1:28:46.160 --> 1:28:49.920 thirty one, sixty three, twenty thirty one, fifty sixty three, right, 1:28:50.080 --> 1:28:54.240 any more than that, right, that's probably unrealistic. Yeah, that No, 1:28:54.360 --> 1:28:56.719 that's on the number. Yeah, that's right on the number. 1:28:57.320 --> 1:29:00.360 That's a long drop. So it makes me feel better 1:29:00.360 --> 1:29:03.479 about drafting Courtland Sutton, though I'll draft him at thirty one. Okay, 1:29:03.560 --> 1:29:05.640 So we determined the better thing to do would be 1:29:05.720 --> 1:29:09.360 to stay then go to Carolina. If you're gonna drop, 1:29:09.439 --> 1:29:12.880 go to Carolina. If you're gonna drop, target Carolina. If 1:29:12.920 --> 1:29:16.280 we go to Carolina, we take Will Hernandez at twenty four, 1:29:16.360 --> 1:29:19.240 it's fine. Okay, we get to fifty. Uh, you're gonna 1:29:19.280 --> 1:29:23.000 want your linebacker here, right? Sure? Who's who's a second 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:28.200 round linebacker? Board? Yeah? Okay, So we took Jewel at fifty, right, 1:29:28.880 --> 1:29:31.040 we can package eighty one and eighty five to come 1:29:31.120 --> 1:29:33.519 up for Michael Gallup. Maybe he makes it to eighty one. 1:29:33.680 --> 1:29:36.320 This is for me. I know I'm winning dreams here. Yeah, 1:29:36.320 --> 1:29:38.720 I know we're having great dreads. We're having an incredible draft. 1:29:38.760 --> 1:29:40.559 I'm just gonna nudge or you can maybe sit there 1:29:40.560 --> 1:29:42.479 and get the receiver at eighty one and turn around 1:29:42.479 --> 1:29:45.920 and get the safety at eighty five. I really just 1:29:46.000 --> 1:29:49.120 need a body at safety. Oh you sound terrible right now. 1:29:49.360 --> 1:29:51.800 They've been playing with bodies, Jeff, I just need a dude. 1:29:51.920 --> 1:29:55.200 He's not gonna start now, he will. Jeff thinks Xavier 1:29:55.320 --> 1:29:58.320 Woods is an all pro and I like Xavier Woods. 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:02.519 I'm gonna save this whole show because what a Savior 1:30:02.720 --> 1:30:04.920 was as a good player, You're gonna serve. It's not 1:30:05.040 --> 1:30:08.440 about whether or not he's a good player. It's about Egyptians. 1:30:08.479 --> 1:30:10.599 All Right, here we go. We're gonna Tater, We're gonna 1:30:10.640 --> 1:30:13.479 take our final break. 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We appreciate 1:32:53.800 --> 1:32:57.120 all the fans out there too, Appreciate everybody again that 1:32:57.520 --> 1:32:59.519 kind of has followed along. It's been a long journey. 1:32:59.600 --> 1:33:05.280 Voice and uh soon Flor's here from Australia. Oh that's true. Yeah, 1:33:05.280 --> 1:33:08.799 Glory from Australia. It's here from Australia. I tell you what. Absolutely, 1:33:09.120 --> 1:33:12.479 there we go. I forgot you were from Australia though, huh, 1:33:12.560 --> 1:33:16.200 well done. You come every year though, right, every couple 1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:18.960 of years. Yeah, there's not a time of year where 1:33:19.080 --> 1:33:21.800 the international appeal of the league is more obvious than 1:33:21.840 --> 1:33:24.640 the draft because people people will be tweeting us on 1:33:24.760 --> 1:33:28.640 Thursday and Friday from Australia, the UK. How about this. 1:33:28.720 --> 1:33:31.599 I did Germany, I did a Denmark. I did skype 1:33:31.640 --> 1:33:35.519 today with the UK Cowboys. Those those guys and yeah, 1:33:35.600 --> 1:33:38.000 so I'm sure they're probably all up listening right now. 1:33:38.080 --> 1:33:40.960 Did the show. But did you wear this? I was 1:33:41.000 --> 1:33:44.880 all white. It looks good. Shirt only wears fishing shirts 1:33:45.040 --> 1:33:48.640 and the occasional white fishing shirts. Yeah, I would call 1:33:48.720 --> 1:33:53.720 this a fishing shirt. Workplace attire, guys, I don't know radio. Yeah, 1:33:53.800 --> 1:33:56.200 it were flip flops and all that stuff. Let me 1:33:56.200 --> 1:33:59.720 ask you, guys, this, who is going to be the 1:34:00.080 --> 1:34:04.080 biggest surprise in this draft? The first round of the draft? 1:34:04.120 --> 1:34:06.160 The biggest where you know it's been one of those 1:34:06.160 --> 1:34:08.040 We're sitting there doing it on Friday night and we're 1:34:08.040 --> 1:34:11.639 gonna look at this thing. We're gonna go wow, Frank, 1:34:12.400 --> 1:34:14.800 Now I mean is that? I mean you're going off 1:34:14.840 --> 1:34:17.439 of their tape. It's Colton Miller yacause he should be 1:34:17.479 --> 1:34:19.120 taken on the third day. But is that the one 1:34:19.160 --> 1:34:22.280 when you know it's a quarterbacks get picked? Let me, 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:24.720 I'll ask you if Rudolph is a one, that's what 1:34:24.720 --> 1:34:26.479 I'm saying, that would be a sur would be a 1:34:26.520 --> 1:34:28.599 surprise to me. What if Lamargo is in the top ten? 1:34:28.760 --> 1:34:30.600 Is that a surprise? Now? No, because I haven't the 1:34:30.640 --> 1:34:33.120 second best quarterback on my board. But I mean, based 1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:37.960 on what sass Plug like, the three of us shouldn't 1:34:37.960 --> 1:34:40.120 be surprised by a damn near or anything that happens. 1:34:40.160 --> 1:34:42.000 I'd take him a one. No, but the one, but 1:34:42.200 --> 1:34:44.960 like ragnow would just surprise me that that one would 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:49.160 surprise I think I think Rudolph. I think six quarterbacks 1:34:49.240 --> 1:34:52.120 go in the first round. You think Rudolph goes that's 1:34:52.240 --> 1:34:54.200 I don't know. Teams need quarter I mean you know 1:34:54.360 --> 1:34:57.280 New England they got two picks, they need a quarterback. Yeah, 1:34:57.400 --> 1:34:59.840 stuff like that just kind of stands out to me 1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:04.479 at and and I know you don't like Colton Miller. Y'all, 1:35:04.600 --> 1:35:06.479 y'all fix it on the tape, and you should. You 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:09.400 should trust the tape. I get it, but because like 1:35:09.479 --> 1:35:13.240 what do you know what they're doing on tape? Playing football? Right? 1:35:13.600 --> 1:35:17.280 Thank you, thank you for what to do, patronizing me. Okay, 1:35:17.920 --> 1:35:20.240 but it's like I said, need is such a big 1:35:20.360 --> 1:35:22.360 part of this that nobody wants to acknowledge. And there's 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:24.600 only so many offensive packs. Why wouldn't you pick a 1:35:24.680 --> 1:35:27.679 good one? But Colton Miller is gonna go before Tyrell Crosby, 1:35:27.720 --> 1:35:31.439 the organ king. If you gotta have one, and you 1:35:31.520 --> 1:35:34.800 think a guy fits what you do here, it only 1:35:34.840 --> 1:35:37.120 takes one team, It only takes one team. Is that 1:35:37.680 --> 1:35:40.320 This is a question for Brian who turn face him. Sorry, Step, 1:35:40.760 --> 1:35:49.479 all you do is still what's wrong with y'all? Like 1:35:49.600 --> 1:35:53.479 everybody who works in the NFL, we can call the 1:35:53.760 --> 1:35:55.840 guys are going to be that are overdrafted because of 1:35:55.920 --> 1:35:58.680 the measurables in the work. We know who we're gonna be, 1:35:58.720 --> 1:36:00.679 and we know it's not gonna work with. When it doesn't, 1:36:00.680 --> 1:36:02.639 they're gonna do it again. We marched to the numbers. 1:36:03.200 --> 1:36:05.600 We marched the numbers. Do with quarterbacks. I did it 1:36:05.640 --> 1:36:08.720 with quarterback and the kid Josh Allen. There's a guy 1:36:09.080 --> 1:36:11.160 he marched to the numbers. Somebody's gonna pay a lot 1:36:11.200 --> 1:36:12.840 of money to that guy, and I hope it works 1:36:12.880 --> 1:36:14.800 out for him. That's what I'm saying, though, You just 1:36:15.000 --> 1:36:17.720 you get so focused on measurables. And I've tried so 1:36:17.880 --> 1:36:20.519 hard since we've all done this now for five years, 1:36:21.040 --> 1:36:24.479 I've tried so hard to keep a different attitude about don't. 1:36:24.600 --> 1:36:27.479 Don't be married to the numbers, Brian, don't be married 1:36:27.479 --> 1:36:30.080 to you know. It's like Chark. You know he's six three, 1:36:30.080 --> 1:36:32.760 he's one ninety seven, he runs four three? Does he 1:36:32.880 --> 1:36:35.160 play like that? See? And that's what I'm saying you 1:36:35.240 --> 1:36:37.439 and I have lived that every week in LSU. We 1:36:37.600 --> 1:36:40.080 die and you know we just ah, well, you make 1:36:40.160 --> 1:36:42.240 that play. But somebody's gonna fall in love with the 1:36:42.320 --> 1:36:45.559 numbers because they always do well. Renzo Carter the Georgia, 1:36:45.800 --> 1:36:49.120 he's a guy when there somebody. Some people have him 1:36:49.200 --> 1:36:53.400 mocked in the first round, say he's a player. Yeah, 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:55.680 but that that work. New England could take him at 1:36:55.720 --> 1:36:58.400 thirty one. I mean, that's the That's what I'm saying. 1:36:58.439 --> 1:36:59.960 New England didn't care what we think. By the way, 1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:03.080 nobody pay them, why should they. They keep going to 1:37:03.120 --> 1:37:05.280 the snow. But but but scouts, I mean, they tend 1:37:05.360 --> 1:37:08.720 to fall in line with the numbers. That's the thing 1:37:08.800 --> 1:37:11.679 I mean, And that's why. But that's why Mason Rudolph 1:37:11.720 --> 1:37:14.600 might get drafted. I mean the counter argument to that, 1:37:14.720 --> 1:37:17.200 and it works out sometimes. I mean, you you have 1:37:17.320 --> 1:37:20.200 a system, you have you have your your benchmarks, Like 1:37:20.280 --> 1:37:22.040 this guy's arms need to be this long. He needs 1:37:22.040 --> 1:37:24.280 a three cone that does this, or I don't want 1:37:24.360 --> 1:37:27.080 Carl Laws our offensive sure if that's part of it too. 1:37:27.240 --> 1:37:31.120 Our offensive tackles have to hit a certain bench So yeah, 1:37:31.200 --> 1:37:33.360 if you're the Patriots, a I mean the Patriots stand 1:37:33.400 --> 1:37:35.000 out to me too, because you're like, we're going to 1:37:35.040 --> 1:37:37.960 the playoffs anyway. Our thresholds are working. Yeah, are We're 1:37:37.960 --> 1:37:40.439 going to the playoffs anyway. So let's draft Colton Miller 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:42.960 at twenty three because because we're smarter than everybody else. 1:37:43.120 --> 1:37:46.519 Well not only well just there's there's five tackles that 1:37:46.760 --> 1:37:48.920 make sense in the first two rounds and we gotta 1:37:48.960 --> 1:37:50.840 have one, so we might as well draft this guy 1:37:50.920 --> 1:37:53.040 that fits our benchmarks, you know what I mean? How 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:56.000 about the surprise the other way we talk about Colton Miller, 1:37:56.439 --> 1:37:58.599 that testing is going to send him to the first round. 1:37:58.680 --> 1:38:01.360 His tape says, what yeah, fourth fifth round? Guy, you 1:38:01.479 --> 1:38:05.599 have to say, zeus right now? Brown? Yeah, t says 1:38:05.640 --> 1:38:11.240 what late one second round? And that's what happened. What 1:38:11.360 --> 1:38:14.679 happened after the combine. Everybody killed the guy. Everybody everybody's 1:38:14.680 --> 1:38:17.200 sports killed the guy. Right. You know he's gonna be 1:38:17.320 --> 1:38:20.200 drafted in the top fifty and play ten years. I 1:38:20.240 --> 1:38:23.800 don't I think he'll go between like fifty and seventy five. Sure, 1:38:24.160 --> 1:38:25.720 I mean, you watch him play. He's really good. You 1:38:25.760 --> 1:38:28.000 watch play gets Ohio State. Those guys we all have 1:38:28.160 --> 1:38:30.439 jacked up the board. Yeah, he's not getting past those. 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:32.320 I mean, those guys aren't getting past him. He's gonna 1:38:32.360 --> 1:38:35.040 drop forty or fifty picks because of his workout. Yeah, 1:38:35.080 --> 1:38:37.519 that's gonna happen. It's scout and again it's the numbers everything. 1:38:37.640 --> 1:38:40.759 Scouts can't get that out of their head. Him laboring 1:38:40.840 --> 1:38:43.600 around and you know, not doing everything you're supposed to do. 1:38:43.800 --> 1:38:48.880 Would Billy Price surprise here? Yeah, a little bit, because 1:38:48.920 --> 1:38:51.280 he's got the peck injury, you know, and all it 1:38:51.439 --> 1:38:54.639 just tapes that good. I mean I worry about him. 1:38:54.920 --> 1:38:57.320 I do worry about him a little bit. Like I say, 1:38:57.360 --> 1:39:00.519 I just I'm trying to I'm rap in my brain. 1:39:00.600 --> 1:39:02.760 I mean, we've If Crosby goes in the first, is 1:39:02.800 --> 1:39:04.840 that a surprise to you? Yeah, it would be. It 1:39:04.920 --> 1:39:07.360 would be. But this tack this this draft is so 1:39:07.600 --> 1:39:10.719 tackle for Yeah, especially if you're gonna play Connor Williams 1:39:10.760 --> 1:39:13.000 at guard, because that's McGlinchey. And that's what I mean, 1:39:13.520 --> 1:39:15.479 and that, like I know, I used to be forever 1:39:15.600 --> 1:39:17.800 there were four or five tackles. You could just plug 1:39:17.920 --> 1:39:20.439 him in, let's go. I can't do that. I don't 1:39:20.439 --> 1:39:22.479 think it's as crazy as y'all do that. Calton Miller 1:39:22.479 --> 1:39:24.080 will go in the first round because they're just no 1:39:25.479 --> 1:39:27.880 I hear it anybody else? All right, let me ask 1:39:27.920 --> 1:39:30.519 you guys this question. I'm gonna ask you this question. 1:39:31.120 --> 1:39:36.840 Give me this guy's underrated? Well you know mine? No? 1:39:37.040 --> 1:39:41.000 Should I say his name of fifteenth time? James Daniels Okay, okay, 1:39:41.160 --> 1:39:46.080 Michael Gallop, um, well, ranger, what are we talking about? Yeah, 1:39:46.080 --> 1:39:50.080 this guy's underrated. This guy is a player that you 1:39:50.120 --> 1:39:52.160 know when at the end of the day, it's he's 1:39:52.200 --> 1:39:54.920 gonna be three, four or five years from now. He's 1:39:54.960 --> 1:39:56.400 going to be the guy. Like, man, we did not 1:39:56.600 --> 1:40:00.200 talk about him enough. I just sort of crap thought 1:40:00.240 --> 1:40:02.640 him at the start of the show. But Minka Fitzpatrick, 1:40:02.760 --> 1:40:05.479 like people people talk about him like nobody knows what 1:40:05.560 --> 1:40:07.360 to do with him. He's fallen down the board. Like 1:40:08.320 --> 1:40:10.200 it's not crazy to think he's the best dB in 1:40:10.280 --> 1:40:12.599 this draft and people aren't talking about him that way. Yeah, 1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:15.920 Duke Asia four wake forestda he's a better player than 1:40:15.960 --> 1:40:18.240 Marcus d Okay, how is the tape for you initially 1:40:18.320 --> 1:40:20.800 on him? What did you think about the tape with him? 1:40:20.840 --> 1:40:22.439 The tape kind of goes up and down, depending on 1:40:22.520 --> 1:40:25.360 the game. But I just think there's enough there that 1:40:25.520 --> 1:40:27.679 I think he's gonna have a ten year NFL career. 1:40:27.800 --> 1:40:29.599 He's gonna be a starting defensive end and he's gonna 1:40:29.600 --> 1:40:34.160 help a football team. But this is kind of how 1:40:34.240 --> 1:40:36.519 it works, and it drives me a little bit bonkers. 1:40:37.000 --> 1:40:39.240 Asia four is a good player on tape. I don't 1:40:39.240 --> 1:40:41.200 know if he ever worked out before the combine or 1:40:41.560 --> 1:40:45.160 Combine or Pro Day. Yeah, but Davenport, who goes to 1:40:45.240 --> 1:40:47.639 a small school, just beats up on small school guys 1:40:47.720 --> 1:40:51.120 like he should, and he may go top fifteen. Asia 1:40:51.200 --> 1:40:54.160 four is going to go fifty five, right, and I 1:40:54.200 --> 1:40:57.120 think he's gonna have the better career. He's got some 1:40:57.280 --> 1:40:59.400 edge rush ability though you watch him, I mean he 1:40:59.439 --> 1:41:03.120 can dip, get around the corner, getting it gets real small? 1:41:03.200 --> 1:41:07.559 Can you carry on Johnson's underrated? Okay it depends on when. 1:41:10.360 --> 1:41:11.960 Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this question. 1:41:12.320 --> 1:41:14.040 Brian and Dan talk about him like you should go 1:41:14.080 --> 1:41:16.000 in the top fifteen. Okay, how about this. Then there's 1:41:16.040 --> 1:41:18.559 my next question. You guys need a real running back 1:41:18.560 --> 1:41:22.639 in the third round. Who's your guy? Hines? Real real 1:41:22.760 --> 1:41:25.439 running back? You need a real running back Hines are Wadley, 1:41:26.080 --> 1:41:28.240 is it too high to take Kelly there? I'd take 1:41:28.320 --> 1:41:34.080 Kelly there, Tennessee Kelly right, Yeah, I actually Iowa Wadley, 1:41:34.479 --> 1:41:37.560 I would I would take too. I love Widley, I 1:41:37.640 --> 1:41:40.599 know you do. I really do, least always like him 1:41:40.640 --> 1:41:42.680 and Josie Joel. I mean, I think what I was 1:41:42.680 --> 1:41:44.640 gonna put it. I would watch what they're gonna put in. 1:41:44.680 --> 1:41:46.360 They're gonna put in a corner in. They're gonna put 1:41:46.360 --> 1:41:48.840 a linebacker in, they gonna put a running back in. 1:41:48.960 --> 1:41:51.240 That's what Iowa does. They like they churn out, dude, 1:41:51.280 --> 1:41:53.360 They're gonna put a center in. They go eight and 1:41:53.479 --> 1:41:55.720 four every three years, they make a run at the 1:41:55.760 --> 1:41:58.439 Big Ten title. Yeah that's I mean, that's it's like 1:41:58.560 --> 1:42:00.800 the sun rising and setting. They're gonna have two guys 1:42:00.880 --> 1:42:03.320 go in the first round. Yeah, and four guys go 1:42:03.479 --> 1:42:05.679 in the first three rounds. Well, no, no, no, Wadley 1:42:05.680 --> 1:42:07.240 will probably go in the fourth. Rod Maybe this is 1:42:07.400 --> 1:42:08.960 Riley might be the best one of that. I mean, 1:42:09.040 --> 1:42:11.400 when when the running backs of those third round running 1:42:11.400 --> 1:42:14.679 backs were talking about call this recency bias because Alvin 1:42:14.760 --> 1:42:17.679 Kamara was just offensive rookie of the Year, but John 1:42:17.800 --> 1:42:20.880 Kelly is a tough Oh John Kelly, Yeah, exactly, catch 1:42:20.960 --> 1:42:23.560 them catch the ball? Sure can. I like that. I 1:42:23.600 --> 1:42:25.760 would draft that guy. It's just like, Okay, Kelly, two 1:42:25.840 --> 1:42:29.120 tough guys, Kelly Galden. You know we're talking about two 1:42:29.200 --> 1:42:31.800 really tough guys that somebody's gonna get. I wish, I 1:42:32.000 --> 1:42:35.680 wish the Cowboys. I almost wish the Cowboys needed are 1:42:35.760 --> 1:42:37.920 running back better, like more than they do, because it 1:42:37.960 --> 1:42:40.519 would be do they do they? I mean when you 1:42:40.560 --> 1:42:44.080 think about Will Okay, only got two on the ross. Yeah, 1:42:44.120 --> 1:42:46.320 even you even made the boy today about Rod Smith. 1:42:46.479 --> 1:42:49.479 But okay, if this remember remember how much fun twenty 1:42:49.560 --> 1:42:54.120 fifteen was when we were arguing about Jeff's boy Duke. Yeah, 1:42:54.200 --> 1:42:58.880 and Ke's a good player in Cleveland, Tevin Coleman, it 1:42:58.920 --> 1:43:00.840 would be so much guy, if the Cowboys needed a 1:43:00.920 --> 1:43:03.160 feature back right now, they would have like a well, 1:43:03.240 --> 1:43:05.720 I mean, we'd be arguing about Darius Geist right now, 1:43:06.520 --> 1:43:10.920 but they don't. Philadelphia, tra Quan Smith is underrated day 1:43:11.080 --> 1:43:14.760 day three, Day three, which is different than day one two. 1:43:14.960 --> 1:43:19.479 So Okaron quos underrated. M Oh, you're naming all Oklahoma guys. Now, 1:43:19.680 --> 1:43:22.519 I didn't name all I named and Oklahoma. I wonder 1:43:22.560 --> 1:43:26.479 why Oklahoma guys and Oklahoma guy, A man is not 1:43:26.560 --> 1:43:30.160 paying attention to us. Oh, there she is, and Oklahoma 1:43:30.280 --> 1:43:34.280 guy and he's underrated. What round does Shakim Griffin go? 1:43:35.160 --> 1:43:37.600 I bet he sneaks into the end of two. I 1:43:37.680 --> 1:43:41.679 think y'all are crazy. Which this plays right back into 1:43:41.720 --> 1:43:43.760 what we'll say three. I'm gonna officially say three. What 1:43:44.120 --> 1:43:46.560 like scouts can't get over certain things right, right, So 1:43:47.160 --> 1:43:49.240 no matter what you see on tape, you talk to 1:43:49.320 --> 1:43:51.920 these scouts and they will like, well, he's got one hand, 1:43:52.000 --> 1:43:55.360 Brian exactly. I mean that they play about the guy 1:43:56.920 --> 1:43:58.920 he does that, and then they're gonna be like, he's 1:43:58.960 --> 1:44:01.479 missing a left hand. Let's say, third round, fourth round, 1:44:02.160 --> 1:44:05.000 fourth yesterday, and that mock that we did he with 1:44:05.040 --> 1:44:08.519 eighty six in Kansas City, that's borderline fourth, right, it's 1:44:08.560 --> 1:44:12.160 getting close. Maybe it's towards the three. I'll tell you what. 1:44:12.840 --> 1:44:15.320 Somebody's gonna get a held of football team. You've been 1:44:15.400 --> 1:44:18.880 saying that since Oh I do. I just believe. I 1:44:19.000 --> 1:44:24.880 believe in him. I'm not hating hippo. Very that's a 1:44:24.920 --> 1:44:26.640 good one. That is a very good one. I think 1:44:26.680 --> 1:44:29.880 that's Doug Free I think it's an athletic Doug Free Mirrow. 1:44:29.960 --> 1:44:31.880 Doug Free came in and he was kind of like, 1:44:32.200 --> 1:44:34.439 you know, position all that this is what this kid 1:44:34.520 --> 1:44:36.760 can do. They got a massive guy on the right side, 1:44:36.760 --> 1:44:38.679 and they got a really light athletic guy on the left. 1:44:38.760 --> 1:44:41.280 Where do you think Shack Griffin goes I got in 1:44:41.360 --> 1:44:43.600 the third round? I have him in the fourth and 1:44:44.120 --> 1:44:45.519 the third. I didn't ask him where you had him? 1:44:46.200 --> 1:44:48.120 Oh what team he goes to? Just where where do 1:44:48.200 --> 1:44:50.160 you think he's actually when do you think he's gonna go? 1:44:50.760 --> 1:44:54.200 More like third round? Whatever? I can give you a number. 1:44:54.240 --> 1:44:58.280 Not you're great, No, you're the team. I'm gonna give 1:44:58.280 --> 1:44:59.720 you a team. I'll give you a team. He's gonna 1:44:59.720 --> 1:45:03.240 go to Where's where's my bunch in Seattle? They don't 1:45:03.240 --> 1:45:07.320 have a third round pick. Let's talk second No, no, no, 1:45:07.400 --> 1:45:08.639 here we go, Here we go here. I got your team. 1:45:08.640 --> 1:45:10.519 I got your team right here, I got your team. 1:45:11.040 --> 1:45:15.240 He's gonna go to Atlanta at ninety Okay, let me 1:45:15.280 --> 1:45:18.519 ask you this a linebacker group. You're the linebacker guys 1:45:18.520 --> 1:45:21.000 are gonna run that team. We'll get ready. We're playing 1:45:21.040 --> 1:45:25.400 that bunch again next year. Yeah. One sat Griffin. You okay, 1:45:25.800 --> 1:45:27.960 he's not because he's got in the fourth round. I'm 1:45:28.040 --> 1:45:30.240 not okay with that. I'm sorry. I hate Why do 1:45:30.360 --> 1:45:32.519 you hate Shatt Griffin? I hate to be the dasher 1:45:32.600 --> 1:45:35.719 of dreams. I just I just if I'm a great production, 1:45:36.200 --> 1:45:42.200 great athlete can cover, I'm on tackle, I'm I'm mentally weak. 1:45:42.520 --> 1:45:44.680 That's why, like, I just I want a guy that 1:45:44.760 --> 1:45:48.439 I'm leaning on to be okay of of those like okay, 1:45:48.479 --> 1:45:51.320 of the linebackers that we think are kind of bad, 1:45:52.680 --> 1:45:56.600 wouldn't a one handed chat Griffin be better than some 1:45:56.720 --> 1:45:58.880 of those guys we've talked about, some those linebackers that 1:45:58.880 --> 1:46:02.639 we would keep Mitch possible. You know, y'all, are y'all 1:46:02.640 --> 1:46:05.360 are calling me a hater? No, no, nobody's calling you 1:46:05.400 --> 1:46:07.840 a hat I am. I am you taking check Griffin over, 1:46:08.360 --> 1:46:12.360 Darius Leonard. Let me check my board, because the board 1:46:12.360 --> 1:46:14.280 will never lie to you. If the board never lies, 1:46:14.400 --> 1:46:16.920 the board will absolutely never lie to you. Board set 1:46:16.960 --> 1:46:20.080 you free line. But this isn't even my board. I 1:46:20.160 --> 1:46:21.960 have too many people's boards in front of me right 1:46:21.960 --> 1:46:24.479 now because I'm doing a project. I'll let you know 1:46:24.560 --> 1:46:26.320 in a minute. I need to find my board. I 1:46:26.439 --> 1:46:29.200 have him over Leonard. How about Fred Warner? I have 1:46:29.360 --> 1:46:33.400 him over Fred Warner from b YU, So you're comfortable 1:46:33.439 --> 1:46:36.080 with that. I just am a fan of the player. 1:46:36.400 --> 1:46:40.120 I just I don't think you could have him behind Leonard? 1:46:41.640 --> 1:46:44.280 All right, so you would go Leonard, Jeff, I have 1:46:44.400 --> 1:46:46.400 him behind Warner. But I'm about to move Warner because 1:46:46.439 --> 1:46:50.519 that's wrong. That's the beauty of a board. Warner just 1:46:50.600 --> 1:46:53.320 got motion. If you're not actually making the picks, Yeah, 1:46:53.600 --> 1:46:56.000 Warner just got moved down. I am sorry. I just 1:46:56.800 --> 1:47:00.679 I those top top one hundred picks are just so important. Yeah, 1:47:00.680 --> 1:47:02.200 I bet you're gonna get a guy that can play. 1:47:02.400 --> 1:47:05.160 I know you are, but can play well. I think 1:47:05.200 --> 1:47:07.960 he's gonna play well. I don't he don't. Don't deny 1:47:08.080 --> 1:47:09.960 that kid. You have to you don't have to put 1:47:10.000 --> 1:47:14.000 any limitations on what he can do. I think football, 1:47:14.120 --> 1:47:16.800 go get it. That's my limitations. What about what if 1:47:16.840 --> 1:47:18.800 you if you need a ride to the plane, I'll 1:47:18.840 --> 1:47:21.000 get you to the plane too. If I think if 1:47:21.080 --> 1:47:24.200 Jalen's on your roster, he fits just fine. Yeah, if 1:47:24.240 --> 1:47:26.960 you need to compliment Jalen, so it's fine between the 1:47:27.040 --> 1:47:30.439 two of them. Will have one complete linebacker. Right, that's awesome. 1:47:30.600 --> 1:47:33.280 You picked one of them at thirty four. Yeah, I'm 1:47:33.320 --> 1:47:35.120 trying to get the other one at eighty one. They 1:47:35.320 --> 1:47:37.720 they picked him at thirty four. Why or why not 1:47:37.840 --> 1:47:40.479 on the part of the company. Here we go, I'm 1:47:40.479 --> 1:47:43.840 a company man. Why or why not? On Arden? Key? Okay, 1:47:44.160 --> 1:47:46.360 can I do why not? No? Because that's what I'm 1:47:46.360 --> 1:47:49.120 gonna say. Okay, go ahead. I just we just did this. 1:47:49.400 --> 1:47:51.560 We just got out. We're actually we're still on this 1:47:51.680 --> 1:47:55.439 train because Randy Gregory's expected to apply for reinstatement. I 1:47:55.880 --> 1:47:58.479 just no, just no. You don't want is it You 1:47:58.520 --> 1:48:00.800 don't want to do with it as a journalist, or 1:48:00.840 --> 1:48:02.879 you don't want to deal with it as well. Selfishly, 1:48:02.960 --> 1:48:05.160 I don't want to deal with it, Key, because you've 1:48:05.160 --> 1:48:07.000 seen him. I mean, that was our guy. Selfishly, I 1:48:07.040 --> 1:48:08.400 don't want to deal with it in the sense of 1:48:08.479 --> 1:48:11.519 like the story, but just draft a guy you can 1:48:11.560 --> 1:48:13.840 count on to be there. How much I had this 1:48:13.920 --> 1:48:16.360 conversation with somebody just off the record, off the air 1:48:16.439 --> 1:48:18.280 the other day, like how much better would this team 1:48:18.320 --> 1:48:21.800 be right now if Randy Gregory had played forty or 1:48:21.960 --> 1:48:23.760 more games in his career, Like if he had been 1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:28.680 a meaningful part of all thy eight games, like how 1:48:28.760 --> 1:48:31.040 much better would they be? They'd probably be a lot better, yea. 1:48:31.120 --> 1:48:34.479 And instead it's just this gaping hole where they got nothing. 1:48:34.720 --> 1:48:37.920 What if they do that again? Let that be somebody 1:48:37.960 --> 1:48:41.120 else's gamble. Man. I'm not I'm not down. So you're 1:48:41.160 --> 1:48:43.599 saying you're you're saying they should learn their lesson from 1:48:44.080 --> 1:48:47.600 Art and Key, because I if at eighty one you 1:48:47.640 --> 1:48:50.080 could maybe talk me into it, I start. I'm definitely 1:48:50.080 --> 1:48:52.479 not doing it at fifty or definitely not ninety. I 1:48:52.520 --> 1:48:54.599 think eighty one's too early for the player on tape. 1:48:55.360 --> 1:48:57.840 Which tape did you watch last year? Last year? To 1:48:57.880 --> 1:49:00.360 watch the year before that? If you're willing, well, if 1:49:00.360 --> 1:49:03.320 you do Landry, Landry going to do it for Landry? No, no, no, 1:49:03.600 --> 1:49:06.360 because Harold Landry, from all I know, is a decent 1:49:06.520 --> 1:49:09.120 character guy who is going out there and trying to 1:49:09.160 --> 1:49:11.080 play football. Arden Key is a guy who you have 1:49:11.240 --> 1:49:14.400 character questions about, you have Randy Gregory questions about, and 1:49:14.479 --> 1:49:16.920 then in the job interview for his career to save 1:49:17.000 --> 1:49:20.160 his career, he looked fat, out of shape and disinterested. Go. 1:49:20.479 --> 1:49:22.080 I mean all of that's true. If you get to 1:49:22.160 --> 1:49:25.280 the sixth round, Dave that we'll talk to you. How 1:49:25.520 --> 1:49:28.519 dare you? That's not that Art? He couldn't play last year, 1:49:28.680 --> 1:49:30.640 he wasn't a good football player. Two years ago, he 1:49:30.720 --> 1:49:33.120 was one of the best pass rushers in LSU history. Yeah, 1:49:33.160 --> 1:49:35.920 I'm just saying they had some good defensive ends. Yeah, 1:49:35.920 --> 1:49:37.800 they have. And this year was his job interview and 1:49:37.880 --> 1:49:40.000 he was fat. Well he came. Yeah, the whole thing. 1:49:40.040 --> 1:49:42.200 I thought when he went away on the sabbatical that 1:49:42.280 --> 1:49:43.800 he was going to come back ready to play, and 1:49:43.840 --> 1:49:45.240 he was. I don't want to spend a top one 1:49:45.320 --> 1:49:48.960 hundred pick on a guy that needs a sabbatical, yet 1:49:50.200 --> 1:49:53.120 the sabbatical works. I'd move you up around a guy 1:49:53.160 --> 1:49:56.519 who's had a sabbatical. That's like getting married. But that's 1:49:56.560 --> 1:49:59.600 a life shift. He's going to Cincinnati. I don't. I 1:49:59.680 --> 1:50:03.719 just don't Cincinnatty. If Art and Key got it together 1:50:03.840 --> 1:50:06.400 over that offseason, he'd have been in shape. No, it's 1:50:06.439 --> 1:50:08.880 and and he wouldn't literally anybody else that he played 1:50:08.960 --> 1:50:11.439 his way into shape last Yeah, that's awful. I'm not 1:50:11.720 --> 1:50:15.400 I don't know that ain't arkag No, that's not the 1:50:15.520 --> 1:50:20.240 right kind of guy. And that's Garrett. If Garrett. Hopefully 1:50:20.360 --> 1:50:23.120 Garrett's in that draft room on Friday or Saturday, being like, 1:50:23.240 --> 1:50:26.200 didn't we just do this? Might taking crazy? But Gregory 1:50:26.360 --> 1:50:28.960 was good. No, and Randy Gregory's last on the phone 1:50:29.000 --> 1:50:30.920 conversation that Garrett was coach. You're not gonna have to 1:50:30.920 --> 1:50:33.080 worry about me. I think Garrett had to be convinced 1:50:33.640 --> 1:50:36.400 to take you know. And and let's be honest, they 1:50:36.439 --> 1:50:39.040 brought Arton Key and who was here we'd normally see 1:50:39.360 --> 1:50:42.920 Galvin Hill. Calvin Hill was here having lunch with arden Key, 1:50:43.080 --> 1:50:46.920 so mart Man, so we'll see what figure out. Okay, 1:50:47.000 --> 1:50:50.240 we're down to our last few minutes here coming out 1:50:50.280 --> 1:50:56.240 of this draft. You're gonna be happy or disappointed when 1:50:56.320 --> 1:50:58.160 you when when it's all said and done, when you 1:50:58.280 --> 1:50:59.760 walk out of here, are you gonna be happy or 1:50:59.800 --> 1:51:02.200 you to be disappointed when we do the final when 1:51:02.200 --> 1:51:06.679 the final picks made on Saturday. Atter. Better of fact, folks, 1:51:06.720 --> 1:51:08.640 we're on with Dallas Cowboys dot Com and all the 1:51:08.680 --> 1:51:11.840 platforms on with the Window five three with Jeff and 1:51:11.960 --> 1:51:14.679 Kat as well, so we're we'll all be talking about 1:51:14.720 --> 1:51:16.880 this like we are now. But when you come out 1:51:16.920 --> 1:51:20.160 of here on Saturday evening, how are you going to 1:51:20.200 --> 1:51:23.760 feel about this draft. I think I'll be disappointed. I 1:51:23.920 --> 1:51:27.880 think I'm gonna be satisfied. I'm not gonna be fist 1:51:27.960 --> 1:51:31.320 pumping and back flipping. But I'm not gonna be upset either, 1:51:31.400 --> 1:51:33.920 because you've got too many picks to where they're not 1:51:33.960 --> 1:51:36.599 going to do something you like. You know, they're even 1:51:36.640 --> 1:51:38.320 and I don't expect them to make all ten, but 1:51:38.360 --> 1:51:40.639 they'll probably make seven or eight. And if you add 1:51:40.720 --> 1:51:43.200 seven or eight guys to your team in one weekend, 1:51:43.280 --> 1:51:45.400 you're gonna like a few of them, you know, yeah, 1:51:45.720 --> 1:51:48.360 you know you probably. I probably won't be freaking out. 1:51:49.360 --> 1:51:52.240 I've already resigned myself to the thought that I'm not 1:51:52.320 --> 1:51:54.920 gonna love the first round pick for one reason or another. 1:51:55.200 --> 1:51:58.919 I just hope it's I hope it's useful, like defensive 1:51:58.960 --> 1:52:02.200 tackle line. You make your team better doing that. Maybe 1:52:02.240 --> 1:52:04.559 it's not a guy who's gonna contend for defensive Rookie 1:52:04.600 --> 1:52:07.599 of the Year. Maybe we get our guy James Daniels, 1:52:07.720 --> 1:52:12.320 which that would be exciting, But I don't think I'm 1:52:12.320 --> 1:52:15.320 gonna come out of it just like, yeah, this is amazing. 1:52:15.400 --> 1:52:18.200 But I think it'll be somewhere in between. You can't 1:52:18.240 --> 1:52:20.439 screw up. When you're making this many picks, you can't 1:52:20.439 --> 1:52:22.760 screw them all up, not with their track record over 1:52:22.800 --> 1:52:26.400 the last five or six years. Jeffrey, I'm a I'm 1:52:26.439 --> 1:52:28.720 a glass half empty guy. I assume it's gonna go 1:52:28.800 --> 1:52:30.200 in a way that I hate it, so that if 1:52:30.240 --> 1:52:32.479 it doesn't, I can be really really happy. And if 1:52:32.520 --> 1:52:35.840 it does, that's cool. I expected that just looking at 1:52:35.840 --> 1:52:38.479 their visits and listening to it. I just I'm worried 1:52:38.520 --> 1:52:39.880 that what they're gonna do in the first round is 1:52:39.920 --> 1:52:41.800 they're gonna pick a linebacker, and I'm gonna think it's 1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:43.479 a reach, and I'm gonna want to be wrong, but 1:52:43.720 --> 1:52:45.519 that's going to be what I'm going to think when 1:52:45.560 --> 1:52:49.719 the first round is over. So that's my biggest worry 1:52:49.880 --> 1:52:51.800 is that they're gonna take a linebacker in the first round. 1:52:51.840 --> 1:52:54.360 I'm not gonna like the pick, and I'm just gonna 1:52:54.400 --> 1:52:57.519 hope that I did a bad job about Let me go, 1:52:57.800 --> 1:53:00.880 let me go hypothetical here real quick. Let's let's say 1:53:00.960 --> 1:53:03.600 that they do take the linebacker and you don't love it, 1:53:03.720 --> 1:53:06.840 but it's it feels a need. What if you just 1:53:07.200 --> 1:53:11.240 absolutely love pick fifty. Let's say it's let's say it's Michael. 1:53:11.520 --> 1:53:13.760 Let's say it's Michael Gallo. I'll be right back. All right, 1:53:13.840 --> 1:53:15.920 there you go. Yeah, and that's the point. You got 1:53:16.080 --> 1:53:18.639 enough picks and there's enough good players in this draft 1:53:18.800 --> 1:53:22.040 that we get Corbett at eighty one. Sure if you 1:53:22.120 --> 1:53:24.960 want them all right back above us here at the 1:53:25.200 --> 1:53:27.680 at the bar, here Todd Archer is doing a mock 1:53:27.800 --> 1:53:31.599 draft for ESPN, and he just picked Layton Vanderish. Shocking, 1:53:31.960 --> 1:53:34.760 He's shocking. I'm six four, two fifty six and if 1:53:34.800 --> 1:53:37.000 you are two hundred and five pounds, he'll run me over. 1:53:37.280 --> 1:53:41.280 So yeah, so Archer, Archer, Yeah, it's just something here, 1:53:42.320 --> 1:53:44.360 I got all these TVs and who did you guys 1:53:44.360 --> 1:53:48.880 are talking? He picked Tacco showing all the missed tackles. Yeah, 1:53:48.920 --> 1:53:53.679 well here's uh again, uh Todd Archer from ESPN Dallas. 1:53:54.000 --> 1:53:57.680 Uh he's or ESPN excuse me, picked Layton Vanderish. So 1:53:57.960 --> 1:54:00.559 here we go with that. So this more than any year, 1:54:00.680 --> 1:54:04.040 you know, you're it's just it's kind of nondescript, like 1:54:04.160 --> 1:54:06.000 you're not picking at the top, you're not picking at 1:54:06.040 --> 1:54:09.040 the very back. You're right there, no man's land. So 1:54:09.160 --> 1:54:11.519 what are the odds? I mean, the way the draft 1:54:11.560 --> 1:54:14.000 work says, You're probably not going to be thrilled about 1:54:14.040 --> 1:54:16.000 a lot of the guys you get, because right in 1:54:16.040 --> 1:54:18.840 the middle, you wide receiver, I'll be happy. You're not 1:54:18.960 --> 1:54:21.519 getting that back of the round value where it's like 1:54:21.560 --> 1:54:23.640 the best second round pick, and you're not getting the 1:54:23.720 --> 1:54:25.760 top of the round, so you're just kind of you're 1:54:25.800 --> 1:54:29.200 getting the leftovers. So you know, if they pick a 1:54:29.280 --> 1:54:32.000 linebacker at nineteen, it's not going to excite anybody, but 1:54:32.080 --> 1:54:34.520 I think it is useful they need it. If they 1:54:34.640 --> 1:54:37.240 draft a wide receiver, I don't think it's gonna be 1:54:37.320 --> 1:54:39.240 a guy that's gonna contend for Rookie of the Year, 1:54:39.280 --> 1:54:41.200 but I think it'll be useful. That's I think I'm 1:54:41.240 --> 1:54:44.640 gonna come out of this draft saying, I'm not rushing 1:54:44.680 --> 1:54:46.960 out to buy any of these guys jerseys, but I 1:54:47.040 --> 1:54:49.120 think they made their team better. Like that's how I 1:54:49.200 --> 1:54:51.200 feel like I'm gonna feel. We'll talk about that today 1:54:51.400 --> 1:54:54.240 and as we get close this down. Jerry thought that 1:54:54.320 --> 1:54:57.520 his team was better. Yeah, that his team was better 1:54:57.680 --> 1:55:00.080 after which the end of the season, he said, you 1:55:00.120 --> 1:55:02.720 think crazy. He thinks they're better because they have clarity 1:55:02.760 --> 1:55:05.120 about what they need to do, which bates. So He's 1:55:05.120 --> 1:55:06.960 says the clarity meant that they know. They don't have 1:55:08.000 --> 1:55:10.120 said you think we're better, because we have clarity, that 1:55:10.200 --> 1:55:12.520 we know where we're bad. That's basically what he says. 1:55:12.520 --> 1:55:16.400 They're not better today. Obviously they're they're clearly worse. But 1:55:16.520 --> 1:55:19.560 it also doesn't matter because you don't play. They're not 1:55:19.800 --> 1:55:22.000 for a while. The draft is not done yet. They're 1:55:22.040 --> 1:55:25.320 not better the draft. It matters by Sunday. By Sunday afternoon, 1:55:25.440 --> 1:55:29.560 when the priority free agent class is done signing, they'll 1:55:29.600 --> 1:55:31.480 be That's what you need to be better. They'll be 1:55:31.640 --> 1:55:35.280 just as good, if not better. I think that's fair. 1:55:35.800 --> 1:55:37.840 Are they closer to the Eagles? Or is there's still 1:55:37.920 --> 1:55:41.600 this cavern we think super Bowl too? Is somebody finally 1:55:41.640 --> 1:55:44.240 gonna win the NFC East twice in or own? Yeah? Yeah, 1:55:45.680 --> 1:55:49.040 I don't. Where's the talent? Where's the relations to the Eagles? 1:55:49.160 --> 1:55:51.120 I don't. Eagles don't have a big hole. They don't 1:55:51.120 --> 1:55:53.760 have a big hole on the roster. I know. I 1:55:53.880 --> 1:55:55.600 just I don't think of the NFL that way like 1:55:55.680 --> 1:55:58.160 the Eagle. The Eagles went from seven to nine or 1:55:58.680 --> 1:56:01.440 and yeah, and the Cowboys were thirteen three the year 1:56:01.440 --> 1:56:04.560 before that, like it's there by Sunday. I think the 1:56:04.640 --> 1:56:06.400 Eagles will be the better team. But I don't look 1:56:06.400 --> 1:56:09.080 at it as like this cavernous gap that nobody can 1:56:09.160 --> 1:56:12.640 hope to overcome. If they add guys like guy, oh God, 1:56:12.720 --> 1:56:16.240 you're gonna get to make luxury picks and then and 1:56:16.560 --> 1:56:18.800 sometimes players fall right in your lap. That's what happens 1:56:18.840 --> 1:56:21.120 when when you're winning the Super Bowl, absolutely right, and 1:56:21.240 --> 1:56:23.200 it's gonna be Connor Williams. He's gonna fall in their 1:56:23.240 --> 1:56:25.360 lap and he's gonna take over for Jason Peters in 1:56:25.440 --> 1:56:27.840 a year, and they're just gonna keep cruising better. Connor 1:56:27.920 --> 1:56:32.520 Williams and Darius guys. The pick is going. I'm gonna 1:56:32.560 --> 1:56:34.560 stick with the guy I've been Rashaun Evans. I just 1:56:34.680 --> 1:56:39.440 I'm just gonna stick with it. Yeah, Calvin Ridley, Okay, 1:56:39.480 --> 1:56:41.920 I'm gonna speaking into existence. Yeah, I'll stick with it. 1:56:41.960 --> 1:56:44.520 I've said it all along. They're gonna take Layton Vanderish. Yeah. 1:56:44.560 --> 1:56:46.840 I think so. We've been pretty consistent with that. I happened. 1:56:46.880 --> 1:56:49.440 I'm not I'm not thinking. I think Michael Gallup, I 1:56:49.520 --> 1:56:52.120 think you jumped onto that before that. I've jumped on 1:56:52.200 --> 1:56:53.920 that and you know what, I hope I'm wrong to 1:56:54.000 --> 1:56:58.160 be honest with you. Push push, Harold Landry. There's nothing 1:56:58.240 --> 1:57:00.240 better than a good story of a guy overcome what 1:57:00.360 --> 1:57:03.160 we think. Yeah, let's go Vanderish all right, guys, Hey, 1:57:03.200 --> 1:57:05.000 thank you guys so much for all your insight. I'm 1:57:05.000 --> 1:57:08.480 gonna thank everybody out here at Henry's Tavern. We had 1:57:08.480 --> 1:57:10.280 a great time. It's nice to the Draft show that 1:57:10.480 --> 1:57:11.960 I couldn't think of a better spot for the Draft 1:57:12.000 --> 1:57:14.520 Show to be at to start out. Hopefully time we 1:57:14.600 --> 1:57:16.560 do this, it'll be time. Yeah, next time, it will 1:57:16.560 --> 1:57:19.200 be time. Stop interrupting, Brian, Sorry, yeah again. At the 1:57:19.320 --> 1:57:21.840 Draft Show, it's presented by Miller LTE. We appreciate all 1:57:21.840 --> 1:57:24.440 their sponsorship. I want to thank you again my guys here. 1:57:24.480 --> 1:57:26.040 I want to thank Kim Garrison. I want to thank 1:57:26.040 --> 1:57:27.720 all the fans. I want to thank you Nate Riley 1:57:28.240 --> 1:57:31.360 and Evan from Miller. 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