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Speaker 1: who's always and then but sitting in for Dane Brugler

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Speaker 1: his family. He is his grandmother passed away. He'll be

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Speaker 1: back tonight and be with us for draft coverage for

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Speaker 1: the weekend. But our good scouting buddy are my good

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Speaker 1: scouting buddy, David Helman's good scouting buddy. Two Jeff Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: sitting in Welcome, Welcome, my friends. Sixth of the year.

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Speaker 1: Oh you know which, what's even better about at might

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Speaker 1: be the sixth man? What's even seventh? What's even better

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Speaker 1: three over the course of these two hours it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be great. Yeah, And that's always fun to sit here

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Speaker 1: and talk draft with you, and so thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for sitting in again. Thoughts and prayers with Dame

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Speaker 1: Brugler as we um as we go forward here. I'm

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Speaker 1: always excited to work with Dave and somewhat excited to

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Speaker 1: work with you. I know it's because you're tired of me.

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Speaker 1: You're tired of me yelling at you is actually what

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Speaker 1: the problem is with it. I'm nice. I'm nice to Jeff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you are, You're very nice. Nice sir. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: dive into this thing. You know, we had Stephen Jones

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Speaker 1: and Jerry Jones and Jason Garrett talking today to the

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Speaker 1: media about some things. I don't know if we got

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Speaker 1: very much out of that. And you know, Stephen Jones, Dave,

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Speaker 1: I think you were talking about I'll direct my questions

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Speaker 1: to Stephen Jones, and if I want answers about the draft,

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Speaker 1: that's who I'm going to. Just that's that's the reality

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Speaker 1: of the modern situation. But Jerry might slip Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what Steven's not gonna slip on you. Well, I'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you a slip on Jerry then today and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna marve you. One of my questions about the

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Speaker 1: bomb slip. No, that was really a nice job at

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Speaker 1: the station three. Your boys kind of got that one

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Speaker 1: taking car button. We had the dumb but but let

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Speaker 1: me ask you this, Okay, Well, I'm gonna ask you

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Speaker 1: some questions kind of what we learned about today, you

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Speaker 1: the draft and Stephen Jones. And this is a question

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Speaker 1: I have for you to start this thing off. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do the cowboys like Vitavea more than they like Calvin

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Speaker 1: my Twitter lineup, which I think that was it? Okay,

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Speaker 1: was that surprising to start out with? I mean the

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Speaker 1: love that Jerry, but he obviously didn't say him by name,

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Speaker 1: but man, if he wasn't he was talking to Vita,

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Speaker 1: he had to have been right. And heaved the defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle from the University of Washington, right, I mean the

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Speaker 1: it's a good I mean, Jerry, Jerry will slip up

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Speaker 1: You can, actually you can go ahead and name him. Well,

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Speaker 1: one technique in the first six rounds? That's a good

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Speaker 1: find it. They just don't pick them. But do they

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Speaker 1: see this guy differently? Though? They might? And if I'm

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Speaker 1: you watch the dude's tape and he just throws people

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Speaker 1: just Stephen Jones. Actually he contributed to that, and he

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Speaker 1: was like, focus on pressure and I mean you watch

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Speaker 1: not saying it's impossible. In fact, I think it's somewhat.

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Speaker 1: just say that he's going to be the pick because

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Speaker 1: there's twenty five years of history that say he's not.

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Speaker 1: Let me attack it this way by asking more questions,

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Speaker 1: because that's what we end up doing, right. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun. Yeah. So when I've kicked this around

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Speaker 1: opportunity to pick them again. Yeah, at nineteen, whichever offensive

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Speaker 1: about this a lot. I don't like my choices. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: KT and have not come on. I think when you

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Speaker 1: Iowa center slash guard and we'll get in, you get

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Speaker 1: a mock draft. Yeah right, If right into that, If

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Winn is there, the Georgia left tackle that can

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Speaker 1: best player on my board. Yea, Rashaun Evans or Layton

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Speaker 1: Vanderesh won't be my number one player at nineteen. That's

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Speaker 1: what I don't like. Yeah, no, I hear you. But

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Speaker 1: that's the position and we know that need plays a

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Speaker 1: bigger role than in people want to admit. Yes, it's

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Speaker 1: just but's where if if you feel like their stack,

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Speaker 1: have it? Is Vita Vea over more Ridley, even Vanderish.

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Speaker 1: I have a hard time seeing it because he's a

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Speaker 1: and I think they do too. And I'm glad you

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Speaker 1: phrased it that way because that's the point, Like I

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Speaker 1: think they put him on the short list. I can't,

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Speaker 1: I just I can't go all the way there thinking

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Speaker 1: he would be like their number one guy. Again, when

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Speaker 1: there's twenty five years of experience with this ownership that

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Speaker 1: remember a time and they didn't take offensive tackles either. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that I've said it before. Oh you have. But like

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Speaker 1: people think I don't like Vita Vea because I just

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Speaker 1: keep saying no, I don't. No, it's it's not that

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Speaker 1: I don't like them, is that I don't think they'll

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Speaker 1: draft him. But I think that's a good point. I

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Speaker 1: think he helps your linebackers, he helps your defensive line. Like,

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Speaker 1: can't convince myself that they would do it. Small move

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Speaker 1: up remembered Stephen Jones was talking about up for James

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Speaker 1: big dude. By that I mean, obviously, who who do

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Speaker 1: Vita vey or Derwin James a better shot in terms

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Speaker 1: Vida Veya falls into that range than Derwin James. That's

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Speaker 1: that's kind of what we saw yesterday. I'm not buying

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Speaker 1: the Draft week smoke that he's falling, by the way

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Speaker 1: like he's gonna be on. He's a top ten. Come.

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Speaker 1: The guys have talked to you around the league, guys

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Speaker 1: about talking to there's guys around, guys and out talking

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Speaker 1: about real real general Andrew guy. People around the league

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Speaker 1: think Baker Mayfield's going number one to Cleveland too. I

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Speaker 1: don't watching. I don't buy it. Oh, Jeff would love that.

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Speaker 1: Why you hate Don Baker? Do you know who has

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Speaker 1: the highest rated college season of all? Why are you

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Speaker 1: trying to Who do you think it is? Who do

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Speaker 1: you think it is? Probably Baker? Whose second? Baker may

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Speaker 1: both Bankers? Yeah? I don't care. So yeah, all the

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Speaker 1: we go. My next question for you guys, and again,

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Speaker 1: not higher than the receivers on the Davey and needs

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Speaker 1: to be on your radar. But I cannot convince myself

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Speaker 1: that they'll pick him and wiped out. Vander Esh is gone. Vanderesh,

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Speaker 1: he's gone. Vanderesh and Evans are both going to be gone.

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Speaker 1: Because fours aren't going on the top eighteen, then they

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Speaker 1: won't be wiped out. Yeah, I I I will happen.

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Speaker 1: die on that hill with me. If he's the pick,

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Speaker 1: round tight end and all of a sudden is ended

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Speaker 1: up with somebody else just catching Witten's not playing five more. No,

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Speaker 1: whoever the next tight end they take, he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, at some point one of these days. Now,

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Speaker 1: Goddard at thirty two? Does that worry you? If Philly

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Speaker 1: has zach Ertz out there and Goddard's the other guy

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Speaker 1: replacing who did they watch? What's his name? Uh? Sellec No?

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Speaker 1: Did he leave Burt Trey Burton. If he becomes that

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Speaker 1: extra tight end, I think that's a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: I worry about them taking guys. I worry about them

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Speaker 1: taking more. Worried about Philly drafting about Ronald Jones and

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Speaker 1: Philly like that scares me. YEA not a tight end. Whatever,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. Okay, here we go. Choose

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Speaker 1: a quarterback out of Mike White, Kyle Loletta, and Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph Loletta Rudolph, Yeah, or you're dying on that island

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Speaker 1: that's hey, where are we Where are we talking about? Right?

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Speaker 1: The first day? Picked out of those you just said,

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Speaker 1: you just said Mike White and Loletta, So you're talking

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Speaker 1: day two. Yeah, Well I'm not. I'm not drafting Mason

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Speaker 1: Rudolph in the first No, you're just saying. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 1: choose a quarterback. Choose a quarterback out of those guys,

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Speaker 1: I'll take Rudolph. It's I mean, it's kind of it's

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Speaker 1: it's like Josh Allen. You know, I hate the idea

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Speaker 1: of drafting Josh Allen in the top five, but like

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Speaker 1: I'll draft him in the first round and take a

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Speaker 1: chance that he develops. It's the same thing with Rudolf.

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Speaker 1: He's got the tools to be a badass. That Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: State offense scares me so much. And that's why we

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Speaker 1: love James Washington so much. Right, and Rudolf looks and

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Speaker 1: somebody's wide opening throws it to him. Somebody asked me yesterday, goes.

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Speaker 1: Does does James White run a James Washington run a

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Speaker 1: route other than a go? Someone asked me that last

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Speaker 1: time screens too, So yeah, no good players ever come

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Speaker 1: out of that Oklahoma State offense. Certainly not the all time.

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Speaker 1: Certainly not the all time Cowboys touchdown later, definitely not

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Speaker 1: so No, no, I'm just saying so, but you're you're okay,

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Speaker 1: Mason Rudolf of you right, not in the first round,

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Speaker 1: by like, no, no, I'm just saying it. Take a

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Speaker 1: quarterback that's not named those three Rudolf. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: if you're taking a non prototype, I would take a chance.

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Speaker 1: If I'm a quarterback needy team and I'm and I'm

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Speaker 1: one of the teams that misses out there at the top,

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Speaker 1: because there's gonna be seven teams fighting for four or

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Speaker 1: five quarterbacks if I miss out. I like Kyle Loletto

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Speaker 1: a lot. If you put him with a coach who

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Speaker 1: recognizes his biggest limitation and just we're not gonna go

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Speaker 1: in that situation. Yeah. When Kyle Aletta, the Richmond quarterback,

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Speaker 1: tries to throw a fly route, it looks like a punt. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna get intercepted. But everything other than that,

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Speaker 1: everything else, accuracy, poise, He's a good player. That's why

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Speaker 1: I like Mike White. If you don't, he's got better tools.

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Speaker 1: I think Mike White does. If you're you know, if

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Speaker 1: you're the quarterbacks not named going to the Jets or

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Speaker 1: going to Cleveland. You know, give me the give me guy.

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Speaker 1: I just think that White's got a lot to his game.

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Speaker 1: I love his size, the arm, talent. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: something about him, the accuracy with him. I think he's

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Speaker 1: just a he's mobile. I just I think somebody's gonna

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Speaker 1: get a Really, you know, we've in the past, we've

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Speaker 1: seen these guys like the hack and Bergs, the Petties,

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Speaker 1: these Cooks, these guys have all gone and they just

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Speaker 1: really haven't done anything. I don't know these guys. One

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Speaker 1: of those is gonna make it, make it. One of

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Speaker 1: those is gonna make make it me, make it be

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Speaker 1: a useful starter. Really, one of those is gonna make

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Speaker 1: it okay. One of those three is gonna make it okay.

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Speaker 1: There's Kirk Cousins is in there somewhere. He said, how

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Speaker 1: do you like that the highest paid quarterback in the

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Speaker 1: league fourth round pick till the next quarterback means to

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Speaker 1: get paid. You're just saying, still, yeah, I think one

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Speaker 1: of them is gonna make it. I believe that. And

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's Rudolph. Rudolf scares me when it's

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Speaker 1: not on time in that offense where things are wide open,

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Speaker 1: it gets real strange on him. It gets real strange

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Speaker 1: that Sam Darnold too hard to evaluate. Yeah, Darnold can

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Speaker 1: save you, though now he'll bury you. But you can

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Speaker 1: also say he will bury you for sure. Okay, here's

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Speaker 1: my other question for you boys. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: us in conversation. This is my question for you boys.

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Speaker 1: If it was me, I'd play Mika Fitzpatrick at corner safety?

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Speaker 1: What what? What? What tape did you watch? Go away?

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Speaker 1: He can do He can do everything, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh no, he can do it. I think you do it.

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Speaker 1: I think he can do I think that's the problem

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Speaker 1: with people right now. They don't know where to put

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Speaker 1: him if he he's a slot corner now rembo, he's

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Speaker 1: talking about him because I mean he was once a

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Speaker 1: guy that people thought about as a top five player,

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Speaker 1: and now he's like you'd play you'd play him at corner. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: where do you think he's getting drafted in the top

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Speaker 1: eleven if he was an award if all right, no,

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Speaker 1: then no, If he was that great at corner, then

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Speaker 1: there wouldn't even be a question about this, Like, well

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Speaker 1: he didn't play he played slot corner. You want to

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Speaker 1: just play him at nickel. That's a spot in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He can do that. Put him, put him in the

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Speaker 1: situation where he's got the best chance to not have

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Speaker 1: all the pressure on him at least to start. And

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Speaker 1: I know we talked about this with Jalen Ramsey too,

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Speaker 1: like I know, but there I don't think I don't

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Speaker 1: think the debate was as strong, and I don't think

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Speaker 1: there was any doubt that he was going in the

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Speaker 1: top five or six either. Yeah, and like Ramsey was

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Speaker 1: a freakier athlete, I think exactly. And that's this I mean,

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Speaker 1: like Patrick Peterson comes to mind, Like when there's a

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Speaker 1: guy that's that good at outside cornerback, there's no debate,

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Speaker 1: there's just none. And there's no talk about him fighting either.

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Speaker 1: They make it a little nervously Cowboys, we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: Ramsey at safety. No, I think you'd been great. I

537
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Speaker 1: think it fits with I say it all the time,

538
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Speaker 1: like I don't trust these guys to be creative with players.

539
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: I said it about Tired Matthew before Tired Matthew was

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Speaker 1: even a free agent, and sure they were like, well

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Speaker 1: he doesn't fit here, Mathai. Either way, I just if

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Speaker 1: it if it requires like a lot of creativity and

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Speaker 1: outside the box thinking, I don't trust this scheme to

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Speaker 1: get it to do it? Nah, I think I think

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Speaker 1: because corner is so valuable, you have to try it

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Speaker 1: at least. Yeah. To Dave's point, can I try it

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Speaker 1: after you let a acclimate to the NFL. No, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna go try to put you at the best spot,

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Speaker 1: the most valuable spot. We're gonna have you cover receivers.

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Speaker 1: But this is gonna go in your favor, which means

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't say it. I do think one of the differences,

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Speaker 1: I think Mica Fitzpatrick has one of the highest football

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Speaker 1: IQ's in the draft, so I think if you do

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Speaker 1: back him off of the ball, he's not going to

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00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: be a guy that struggles with that. He's gonna thrive

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Speaker 1: at it. But I would like to see he played

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Speaker 1: slot corner. But I would take Ward over him because

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Speaker 1: I've watched Ward play outside corner, have his back to

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00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: the ball, make plays all that stuff. Fitzpatrick's bigger, he

560
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: can be more physical, but I haven't seen him out there.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how how to pick a guy

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Speaker 1: that I haven't seen out there. If you're if there's

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Speaker 1: any question at all, then I just don't where are

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Speaker 1: you playing? Which safety? Are you playing him? Out? And

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Speaker 1: today's NFL prime matter is less than ever, but it's

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Speaker 1: still defined for a lot of teams. It's strong, I guess.

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Speaker 1: I think. So you're picking him in the top ten

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Speaker 1: to play drown safety, Well, I mean that's a felt

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Speaker 1: Derwin James. Where would you play Derwin James? They gotta

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Speaker 1: playment free claimed free myself. But I'd play him everywhere.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to trade up for him because

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Speaker 1: Xavier Woods is our guy. We're not allowed to jump

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Speaker 1: off that wagon. Safety are definitely allowed to jump off

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Speaker 1: that wagon. We picked him, it's not you're not saying

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Speaker 1: he's a bad player by saying it's a good idea

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Speaker 1: to get a better player. No, I'd be saying it's

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Speaker 1: a better idea to let him play and have your

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Speaker 1: first two round picks for something else. Okay, that I

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Speaker 1: mean okay, spoken like a member of the Cowboys front office.

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Speaker 1: I mean you know that? Is that a shot fired? No,

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Speaker 1: it's not a shot fired. It's I just I decited

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Speaker 1: to be a GM. I just needed I need a

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Speaker 1: better what's the backup plan? What if he's not good?

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Speaker 1: Who Xavier Woods? Yeah? I know it, Xavier Woods? No,

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Speaker 1: you got excited that they drafted him last spring for

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Speaker 1: third round grade because he's a good player. What if

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Speaker 1: he's what if he's not good? Jeff Heath is here,

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00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: he played it last year. Okay, cool? All right? Because

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Speaker 1: but the argument isn't because to me, the argument is

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Speaker 1: more what can I do at nineteen and fifty? Would

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Speaker 1: you rather have Derwin James take Xavier wood spot and

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Speaker 1: leave two spots open that I get to improve? Or

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Speaker 1: would you rather have a left guard, a wide receiver

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Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods? I would rather just fill the hole

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Speaker 1: that I have the most amount of questions about. So

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Speaker 1: you need the linebacker, linebacker, linebacker, and safety come to

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Speaker 1: mind before left guard. I don't have a left guard

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Speaker 1: here you do. Oh well, you got Marcus Martin and

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Speaker 1: Lyle Collins. Yeah, Lyle Collins is kind of the race

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Speaker 1: in the hole, I believe, Oh, I trust me. I

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Speaker 1: don't want that to happen. Nobody does, and they included

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Speaker 1: want it to happen. I don't want it to happen,

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Speaker 1: but it very well could. So I'm just asking you

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Speaker 1: to buckle up. All right, I got more questions. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. Let everybody take a big pull

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Speaker 1: twitter on the twit, Thank you very much. Wow, I

667
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Speaker 1: got a question, a really timely question. You know, this

668
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Speaker 1: is our last show before we actually do the draft.

669
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Speaker 1: I actually saw Daniel Jeremiah talking about this today. So

670
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: Zach points out that there's a lot of buzz about

671
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Speaker 1: Frank Ragnow, oh, that was one of my questions the

672
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: Arkansas Center. He's a good player. A lot of people

673
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Speaker 1: tell he's getting first round buzz. Oh, you don't see

674
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: him that way. No, My last question, is Frank Ragnall

675
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Speaker 1: really a first round consideration? You tell me that's I

676
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Speaker 1: mean what I tell you. When you read do you

677
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: revisit your thoughts on him? Yeah, he's a billy to

678
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: billy blocker, is what he does. When you you watch Okay,

679
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: played guard in the Alabama game, all right, but when

680
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Speaker 1: you watch him block, if he does not get right

681
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: up on you, he's got no shot and he is

682
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: balance is bad. And I just do not see what

683
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Speaker 1: people are looking at with him. I just don't get

684
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Speaker 1: it because I see a guy that's all balanced. To

685
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: see a guy it's on like a one legged football player.

686
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: I see a guy that's kids yanked throne. But you know,

687
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: but I trust me he will. He's gonna play twelve

688
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: years in this league. And I'm sticking to your guns.

689
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not. I'm not changing how to draft.

690
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: People would see the buzz and be like, oh, I'm

691
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: gonna revisit my grade. Oh no, oh well, I mean

692
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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say it right now. I like him,

693
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Speaker 1: And it's kind of what hold on. It's kind of

694
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Speaker 1: for the reasons you're saying that he's just kind of player.

695
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Speaker 1: You can point out the things where it's like, wow,

696
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't really play with extension, but you can't find

697
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Speaker 1: him getting beat. But it's like he if he if

698
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Speaker 1: he does not get up on you and hold And

699
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Speaker 1: it's funny guys trying to like redirect on him and

700
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Speaker 1: getting he's like going with him because he's holding on

701
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: so tight that he's hanging on, hasn't given up a sack. No,

702
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: in his college career. He and he gets the job

703
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Speaker 1: that he played guard in the in the album, you

704
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Speaker 1: can watch him play guard in the Alabama game. And

705
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Speaker 1: I give I would have him ahead of Price the

706
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Speaker 1: Ohio State Center. Now there's another Billy to Billy block.

707
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Speaker 1: I would have him in front of him Price to me,

708
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Speaker 1: I mean they they had. That's another guy that's kind

709
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: of getting some. I know he was hurt, but people

710
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: are talking about him. If you're first round, sir, give

711
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: me Daniels. Daniels give Quisinberry for UCLA is not bad either,

712
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: not either. You know how. I like a good segue,

713
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: which mentioning Daniels throws in a question from Joseph, which

714
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Speaker 1: is who's the forgotten man at nineteen? Let's take a

715
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Speaker 1: peek here, because I think James Daniels is a yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I you know what, that would

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Speaker 1: be one of those picks if we've talked about We've

718
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: spent months talking about everybody but James Daniel, and we

719
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Speaker 1: all love him. And if any probably and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, we're sitting there on Thursday night and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say, you know, Commiscier says picks in bah James

722
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Speaker 1: Daniels Center, Iowa, I'm gonna I would stop and say, damn,

723
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Speaker 1: good pick, and it would and it wouldn't even I

724
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Speaker 1: mean I would. It's one of those things where I

725
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: haven't thought about. But gosh, he goes back to guys

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Speaker 1: they visited him as a thirty Yeah, and I'm making

727
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: a big deal about the thirty day, but I in

728
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: the first round, you should yeah, the Colton Miller. No,

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00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna visit unless they're gonna pick Colton Miller.

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00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: Unless they trade up, the first round pick will have

731
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: been a thirty visit. I'll that's gonna happen, unless unless

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Speaker 1: something crazy happens. I mean, if Derwin falls and they

733
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Speaker 1: trade for him or something nuts. But if they pick

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Speaker 1: at nineteen, the pick will be a guy that went

735
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: to the facility. There's just no doubt in my mind.

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Speaker 1: The only redeeming quality about Colton Miller is that he's

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00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: a good athlete. Names to your We talked about this

738
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: because we did talking Cowboys this morning. That was shameless,

739
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: but way to go. Good job, great beer. Miller L

740
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: Miller Um. We talked about it on Talking Cowboys today.

741
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: You know they visited Mike McGlinchey. They visited I can't

742
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: figure out why they did that. Well, but Collins Trump

743
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: called the visit. But they covered their bases. They visited

744
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: two tackles they like and a guard they like. If

745
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: that's the option, they take the best one available in

746
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: their minds, and then they figured out from there. So

747
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: if you're drafted Mike McGlinchey, you're moving. Lyle Collins, Yeah,

748
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: abstracted James Annuals absolutely leaving Lyle where he is. And

749
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: I like Steven basically said that today. I asked him

750
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: about it and uh, and he was like, well, basically

751
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: he said, we're gonna draft what we think is the

752
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: best dude available when the time comes to do that,

753
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: whether it's nineteen, whether it's the fifth round, and we

754
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: will decide what to do from there. So if they

755
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: get themselves a really nice card, Lyle probably stays. If

756
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: they wind up with a better tackle, he probably moves.

757
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: I think it's that easy. Other thirty visits that I

758
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: don't think we've talked about a lot as a potential pick.

759
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: Tavin Bran Yeah, the Florida defensive tackle. Absolutely, And for

760
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: me at least, it's because I don't want them to

761
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: pick him, so I don't bring him up a bunch McGlinchey.

762
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: I think we talk about him a little bit. But

763
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 1: when David just put out the scenario that if you

764
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: drafted him that immediately signals move that becomes uh fleming

765
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: becomes the swing tackle or does McGlinchey become the swing tack?

766
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 1: I stop, you stop, sir, sir? Oh, you mean this

767
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 1: coaching staff doesn't favor veteran experience over sir. Come on,

768
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: and we talk about vandersh a ton as the guy

769
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: at nineteen. If you think Rashaun Evans is the forgotten man,

770
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: I've been mocking him for like a month and a half.

771
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: He did it in the magazine might of fact. Well

772
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: keep men. You guys didn't give me how much is

773
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: the magazine? Well it's it's just I brought a bunch

774
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: of guys. Probably the web. Where's the website? We're probably

775
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: too late to send him out. You don't have it

776
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: by now. I'm for you. Grab we got draft tickets.

777
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: By the way, too, and we're gonna give away at

778
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: Jason Witten autographed jersey factual. Yeah, arden Key is the

779
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: forgotten man. Brian at nineteen. I wouldn't pick him at

780
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: eighty one, all right, John was just thrown out a

781
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: visitor name. No, I wouldn't pick him at eighty one.

782
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 1: I would arden Key at eighty one. Key at eighty one.

783
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: That was another one of my questions forgotten why or

784
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: why not on arden Key? But okay, James James Daniels um,

785
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 1: I mean you could throw a Rashaun Evans because vander

786
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: esh does get more love he does. I just don't

787
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: know it. I just don't know if they if they

788
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: think like that, they would have to play him at

789
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: will linebacker and move Seawan Lee back inside. I don't

790
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 1: know what they're really said on him. Evans a physical dude.

791
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: I know he could play Mike all day. I'm just guys,

792
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: so they're so they're more light and the butt guy

793
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: at Mike than they are the dude who's a freight train.

794
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: They think the guy could play all three positions. That's

795
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: what I think. I think Rashaan Evans could be your

796
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: day one Mike if you needed him to be he's

797
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: a he's a that's the one thing I really do.

798
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: I don't absolutely love him, but he hits the crap

799
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: out of it. Yeah, doing people stop, That's that's absolutely right. Okay, um,

800
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: oh yeah, sorry I got sidetrack. Oh well, okay, I

801
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: know we talked about this at the top, but just

802
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: for clarity's sake, Austin he yeah, he read your mind. Yeah,

803
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,280
Speaker 1: if vitavea Layton vander Esh and wide receiver one whoever,

804
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: whether that's Calvin Ridley or DJ Moore, if they're all there,

805
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: who would you take? And who do you think they

806
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: would take? Because obviously there are two different questions. Yeah,

807
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: vanderh veya wide receiver of your choice. Well, Vanderesh was

808
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: at their biggest need position to me, Yeah, to me,

809
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,280
Speaker 1: some might say receiver even though you have six of them. Yeah,

810
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: I think they could play a game with the receivers

811
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: they have. And okay, along, so I think you're right

812
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: about it too many times. Yeah, I would take veya

813
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 1: because you just don't like Vanderes. Well, I think he's

814
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: the best blend of need and talent. Like, he's arguably

815
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: the best defensive tackle in the draft, and it's a

816
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: need Veya will be my top rated player on the

817
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: board there, so I would I would go Veya, then

818
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: the wide receiver, then Vanderesh. I think they'll go Vanderesh

819
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Ya. That would this This is a great

820
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: fire escape, like I've you know, and I don't want

821
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: to get my hopes up. I really don't. But I've

822
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 1: had myself convinced for a month that that a linebacker

823
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: is going to be the pick because it just makes

824
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: too much sense. I hate the idea of drafting the

825
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: third or fourth best linebacker in the draft at nineteen.

826
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Don't you hate that? You feel pigeonholed into doing that? Though?

827
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: The idea before the draft is to make it so

828
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: you're never stuck in this spot, and I feel like

829
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: they're stuck in the spot. I don't think they're stuck.

830
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: It's just when you weigh it all out, it makes

831
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: the most sense. And trust me, I reserve the right

832
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: to be wrong. It happens all the time, but you

833
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: look at it, it does. Shut up. It makes why

834
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: are we doing this? We're makes it makes It just

835
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. I don't think they're pigeonholed. I

836
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: think we've been talking about it all forty minutes where

837
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: there's eight or nine options that make sense, but the

838
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: linebacker option makes the most sense, except if they are

839
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 1: willing to draft the defensive tackle in the first round.

840
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: You can get the best one in the draft, do

841
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: a variety of things and give you away rosier long

842
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: term future at that position. Is this Danny Shelton. No, no, no, no,

843
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: Danny Shelton wasn't as athletic Danny Shelton. I don't think

844
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: he was even as big. He's bigger, stronger. Festee was

845
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: pretty wide. Yeah, I think Sheldon might have had better

846
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 1: college production. But when you just watch the players play, Yeah,

847
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Tove is different. Okay, Tove is different. Right, He's a truck.

848
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: He's a ballerina truck. Yeah, that's how I say, dancing bear.

849
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: You already used. That's good. It's good, though, it's good.

850
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: The folks on the periscope, they're they're asking, where's the

851
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: love for Davenport? You have the wrong guy. If this

852
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: is uh, it's classic. You know. I feel like I'm

853
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: trying to tell you what I think the Cowboys are

854
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: gonna do. And again, I guess, you know, going back

855
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: to my point about the thirty visits. Anything is possible

856
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: in the draft, but you're talking about a guy that

857
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: you got a draft at nineteen, and I have no

858
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: reason to believe that they care about him. They didn't

859
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: bring him in on a thirty people went to his

860
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: pro day, but they go to every pro day, right

861
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: as far as I know. They didn't do a private

862
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: workout with him, all that good type of stuff. So

863
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: you know, you're looking for markers on a roadmap, you

864
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, And there's a million markers on

865
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,720
Speaker 1: a million other guys. I got nothing on Marcus Davenport.

866
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 1: So it's got nothing to do with what I think

867
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: about him. But I don't have any reason to believe

868
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: that they like him. So I just why am I

869
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: talking about him if I don't think they're gonna PA

870
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: I was just no, I know, but I'm explaining myself

871
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: to anybody listening. I know we're drafting for the next

872
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: hundred years, but four or five. Does Marcus Davenport help

873
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: you much in year one? I don't think he does.

874
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: I think it's a small school guy that won by

875
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: being physically better than everybody he played against, who really

876
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing. I wonder I don't think

877
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: this guy, Ziggy. I wonder if people said that about

878
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: DeMarcus where Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah,

879
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: where's a different cat. I'm not just saying no, no, no,

880
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm with you, but no, I'm thinking of ziggy Ansa.

881
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that was a surprise. Ziggy Ansa. We go a

882
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: first round, surprised by the by the Detroit Lions. If

883
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: we want an end, we want Harold Landry to make

884
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: it to nineteen. That would be above all else that

885
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: would be my a one hell yeah scenario. What about

886
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: real Quid Smith? Okay, what about this? Okay, but I talk,

887
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: But okay, what do you think that they would do

888
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: because they because Veya and Landry? Would they take would

889
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: they take Landry over Veya because he's the end they

890
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: would get too? Or do they feel like though that

891
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: that defensive tackle can help their life? It help Jalen Smith?

892
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 1: Got to take the guy that affects the passing game, right,

893
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: I would think so that's and okay, I have it

894
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: that way. Paveya can rush the passer, but not as

895
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: well as a guy like Harold Landry if he lives

896
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: up to his villain. If you have a guy who

897
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: can get you ten plus sex a year. You take

898
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: him over that exactly? Exactly. No, I agree. I think

899
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: it's I think it's crazy talk. It's almost as crazy

900
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: to think Harold Landry falls that far. You shouldn't get

901
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: past fourteen exactly. I wouldn't think I would. Maybe Green

902
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: Bay takes Davenport. Somebody mocked Landry at twenty five the

903
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: other day and I was like, what planet? That's nuts

904
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: to me. I'd be a good planet. I want to

905
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: be on that planet. Well, no, because the car. There's

906
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: another question, Dave or for you guys, if if what

907
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: if DJ Moore somehow ends up in the second round?

908
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: Are you are you going up? Um? If if it's

909
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: swap okay, this scenario we did yesterday, but it's DJ

910
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: Moore at thirty seven instead of so I'm giving up

911
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: fifty and eighty one. Yeah, do it? Bring it on?

912
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: What do we do in the first round? You took

913
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: Vanderish keeping well, because that's who they're gonna take. Bring

914
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: it on? Yeah, yes, got me, got me a linebacker

915
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: who can step in and play right away. Got me

916
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver one at thirty seven? Yep, yeah, yep, yep. Nope,

917
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: bring it on. You're not gonna do it. Why because

918
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm in the Michael Gallup fan club. You don't gonna

919
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: wait for fifty you don't like players. I'm gonna wait.

920
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Anthony Miller or Michael give me then

921
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: your ideal scenario. Then for the first two picks, then

922
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,479
Speaker 1: for you ideal for you don't talk about the Cowboys. Okay?

923
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: Are we taking Harold Landry out of the equation. You're

924
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: gonna say he's not available, Well, just give me your

925
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: give me, give me your ideas. I take my ideal

926
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: is that somebody else takes Landry, so I'm not tempted. Uh.

927
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: My ideal scenario would be at nineteen, you'd take either

928
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,919
Speaker 1: Isaiah Winner, James Daniels and you they play left guard,

929
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: and in fifty you take Anthony Miller or Michael Gallup

930
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: and play receiver. You ever one under? Actually, okay, and

931
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: I hate that I haven't gotten a linebacker yet, but

932
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: that's what I feel the best of it. I can

933
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: incorporate a question from Jesse in here, since you just

934
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: brought that up, like and and Jesse says, is it

935
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: too risky to draft a guard at nineteen given what

936
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: else this team needs. Of course, why I think because boy,

937
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: we were on that guard train so early. We were

938
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: in today and then and then we stopped at the

939
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: station we've all got off. In today's NFL, I know,

940
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: people are talking about how much money you have tied

941
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: up in the offensive line and this. Yeah, well I'm

942
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: really sorry about how much we might have to pay

943
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: our awesome left guard in twenty twenty three. But for now,

944
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: that's not I want to protect this quarterback. I want

945
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: to run the ball. This is what my team does.

946
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: This is what we do. It's not wrong my guard.

947
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: I think my guard is going to be the best

948
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: player on the board. Can't you do that without drafting

949
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: a guard nineteenth overall? I mean they didn't last year.

950
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: I know. But there's a lot of stuff that goes

951
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: into that. There is your your your best blindman got

952
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: hurt you? If I had your draft? Is your draft

953
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: chain change? If I tell you they're moving while Collins.

954
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah now I want McGlinchey. Okay, yeah, now I want

955
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 1: Mike mcglenchie at nineteen. I don't want camp. Look, look

956
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: what I want for this line is for Fleming to

957
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: be the swing swing tackle. That's my dream I want.

958
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: That's the guy in place. All right, that's what I want.

959
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: You know what my ideal is, what I'm space And

960
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: what's the name of the Washington State guard? Madison? Give

961
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: me Madison in the third or fourth round. You're good

962
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: stepping starting with Madison, or he can fight it out

963
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: with Marcus Martin and training camp. I don't need to

964
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: spend pick nineteen on a on a starting guard. Let

965
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: let a mid round pick fight with Marcus. He has

966
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 1: been consistent. The one, the one that's changed a little

967
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: bit has been Dane because Dane says, well, you didn't

968
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: you didn't get a good enough band aid, right, which

969
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: at the position. So now he's now more willing to

970
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 1: take a guard. If Jonathan Cooper can and and I'm

971
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: not saying he was a pro bowler, but if Jonathan

972
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: Cooper can do the job adequately, he was adequate. Adequate

973
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: is a fair word. Adequate is a fair words. Okay, Well,

974
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 1: this one's personal to me because we're picking at nineteen.

975
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna draw up my reasoning for this. We're

976
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: picking at nineteen. If Isaiah Winn is on the board,

977
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: he'll probably be about my eleventh best player in the draft,

978
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: James Daniels will probably be about my fourteenth best player

979
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: in the draft. So you get wind over Daniel Susan, Yes,

980
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: vander esh and Evans. Your linebacker options at nineteen for

981
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: me will be about the thirty fifth to fortieth best

982
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: players in the draft. So to me, it's just a

983
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: massive difference in what I'm picking in terms of value

984
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: of the player that I think I'm getting. Now, why

985
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter is because for the Cowboys those are

986
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: probably must much closer, if not flipped. Let's for me,

987
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: that's why I want the lineman. I'm gonna go against

988
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: everything that Brian's ever taught me, like window dressing your

989
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: board and all that crap. But think about this, I

990
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: mean think about you know, you get into the nitty

991
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: gritty of the sea and would you and okay, it

992
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense in the value of your board, but

993
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: would you rather have the thirty fifth best player in

994
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 1: the draft holding your linebacker group together with a thirty

995
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: two year old and a guy with a bum knee,

996
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: or would you rather have the fourteenth best guy in

997
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: the draft. Oh and by okay, so you're all right,

998
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: thirty fifth best guy or you're one hundred and twentieth

999
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: best guy, let's call him Fred Warner. Or I would

1000
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: rather have my left guard and then Darius Leonard holds

1001
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: my linebacker cord together than pick one of those linebackers

1002
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 1: and have Coal Madison. Give me the bet, Josie, give

1003
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: me the better player holding together the shakier unit over

1004
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: the better player holding together the already very good unit.

1005
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: The offensive line should be able to function without a

1006
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,280
Speaker 1: top tier left guard. The linebacking corp is not gonna

1007
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: function without a top tier linebacker. I believe that would

1008
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: you feel different if they traded for the guy in Seattle?

1009
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: Would you feel different about your defense and having the

1010
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: hold together guy? A little bit? Because I think then

1011
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 1: in today's NFL, you know what I would do if

1012
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: you had that guy from Seattle, that guy. If I

1013
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: have that guy from Seattle, Xavier Woods can play mother

1014
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: safety spot and you know who can play linebacker for me,

1015
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: Cavon Frasier. That's today's NFL. Today's NFL strong safety's play linebacker.

1016
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: We gotta cover, we gotta coverbacks, we gotta cover tight ends,

1017
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: and we gotta tackle. That's what linebacker's got to do.

1018
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: That there's nothing for you then I kind of no.

1019
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: I mean, which if you add him to the mix,

1020
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: then then I'm down for whatever and all. Honestly, your

1021
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: argument is about kind of holding things together when something

1022
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: happens to Sean Lee. Yeah you really you don't for

1023
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,959
Speaker 1: that matter, I mean yeah, yeah, Stephen Jones. Stephen Jones said,

1024
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: a big part of how we feel about linebackers, we

1025
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: expect him to take a step forward. I hope that's

1026
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: the case, but I'm I can't bank on it. I can't.

1027
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and be like like that's so

1028
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: it's presumptuous to just be like, well, he's gonna be great.

1029
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: The last two weeks of the season, they were playing

1030
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 1: him twenty snaps a game. They weren't dialing him up.

1031
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: They were pulling. They were pulling him back, and he

1032
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: actually looked better than that. When he plays sixty snaps,

1033
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't nearly as good. I just think you need

1034
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: three to play too, you need It's like they were

1035
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: apologizing to him today. Well I'll take that too, but

1036
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 1: I just I let we said it again on talking today.

1037
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: We said it, you can play and win with these

1038
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 1: wide receivers. You could play and win with this offensive

1039
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: line as it stands right now? Do you agree? Yes,

1040
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: Tyrone's healthy. If Tyron's healthy, yes, can you play and

1041
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 1: win with these linebackers with the starters? Can you play

1042
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: and win with this linebacking corps? Sixteen games? Oh? Sixteen games? Yeah?

1043
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 1: My draft is over. Yes, but that's right now. No,

1044
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: you're right there, we go there. Thank you for letting

1045
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: me have that. Yeah, I appreciate that. See, I can

1046
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: concede when there is a point where you're not right.

1047
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: A lot of people struggle with that. It's I just

1048
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: the linebacker position scares the crap out of me, man,

1049
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: And that's I don't the draft. Nick in me doesn't

1050
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: want a draft Layton vander esh or Rashaan Evans. But

1051
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about how is this team gonna win

1052
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: games in twenty eighteen? And it's by bolstering mac Rube. Yeah,

1053
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: and I think it's by running for well four thousand

1054
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:12,640
Speaker 1: yards that don't help. But but he wants to the guard,

1055
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 1: and I think that. I think the ace of the hole,

1056
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,439
Speaker 1: and I've said this is Collins. I think that's what's

1057
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: keeping them from taking a guy at nineteen. Yeah, I

1058
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 1: really do. I think that that thought in their head

1059
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: is keeping them from taking a guard at nineteen. But

1060
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: if they do that, wouldn't you say they haven't learned?

1061
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 1: If your plan is okay, we did, so, we're gonna

1062
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: move Collins to guard. Fleming's gonna be our right tackle,

1063
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: our depth across the line. If Tyring gets hurt of zero,

1064
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: I think that here, I despise. That's brutal. I despise

1065
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: the best of five, the best five thing. And they

1066
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: killed they killed Jazz Green. Yeah, Garrett admitted it. I

1067
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: asked him, said you shouldn't have played him a guard.

1068
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: He goes, I think back on it, No should. I

1069
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 1: discovered a fundamental difference between me and Jeffrey just just

1070
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: when he said that right there, which is that I'm

1071
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: I sit cross legged. No, well you do do that. No,

1072
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: there's not nothing wrong that. No, I think, Okay, this

1073
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: is what I think me. I think this is what

1074
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: the cowboys are gonna do, and there's nothing I can

1075
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: do about it, and so I'm just gonna Jeff is like,

1076
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: we watch all these players, we want to fight the cowboys.

1077
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: Jeff is like, this is what the cowboys are gonna do,

1078
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: and I don't like it, and I'm gonna fix it,

1079
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: which like that's like you can't do that. That's not

1080
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about that. At the end of the day, Well,

1081
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: these are my receipts. If they struggle, I can say listen,

1082
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: I had this. These got a five hour radio show. Yes,

1083
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: that's a lot of hours. I put in a petition

1084
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: to lower it. Any more questions on their day. Uh well,

1085
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: actually Austin, Actually Austin had a really good two parter

1086
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: which we sort of just touched on this. I love

1087
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 1: his wording here he goes, if a top tier safety

1088
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: is acquired via trade, I love that word. Yeah, top

1089
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: tier safety from the West Coast doesn't in a state

1090
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: where oh oh, by the way, did just real quick

1091
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Stephen Jones told us today about they were not interested

1092
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: in read or Acaro. He just said, no, I mean

1093
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: that that's so any of those guys who are asked

1094
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: about Boston, any of those guys, I mean, they're not

1095
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: interested in any of those The fact that those guys

1096
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: aren't on this team already should tell you that's that's right. Okay. No,

1097
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: So if a if a top tier safety is acquired

1098
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: via trade, how how would you use them? And he

1099
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,919
Speaker 1: I mean, could could Xavier Woods play alongside him? Would

1100
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: you use Heath as you're strong and yeah, he who

1101
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: must not be named, let me ask you this. You know,

1102
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the guy that might just become just the core Special

1103
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: Teams captain guy is Heath? I think so, yeah, because

1104
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: then what you do play and top tier safety together. Yeah,

1105
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: and then what you do is you put Byron Jones

1106
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: down covering the big man. Byron Jones is playing, That's

1107
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: what he was born to do. Yeah. Byron Jones all

1108
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden now becomes the guy that covers the

1109
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: big man. So I think the guy that would just

1110
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: become full time, full time Special Teams captain man is

1111
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath. Depending on situation, you can move Xavier Woods

1112
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: and Cavan Frasier in and out where if we think

1113
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: they're we think they're gonna run the ball, Frasier's out

1114
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: there totally Interchangeable's fine. Yeah, yeah, I just you know,

1115
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: I would be exciting. I just kind of feel like

1116
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: though that if they if they did get Thomas, that

1117
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: they would play. They love Woods enough to do it,

1118
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: and they have to figure out something for Frasier though, too.

1119
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 1: Maybe you get two guys like Keathan Frasier. This your

1120
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: core guys, and then when you rotate them through, you

1121
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: know the you rotate them through and that's what they do.

1122
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: But we gotta take you're not taking a role Thomas

1123
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: off the field. We gotta trade down. I'm in you

1124
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: guys realize we gotta trade down. I'll talk. Let's talk

1125
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 1: about that later on about what we do that we

1126
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: gotta trade down. We will. Okay, we're gonna take a

1127
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break here day. Thanks to everybody

1128
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Thanks to everybody on periscope for firing some

1129
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,839
Speaker 1: questions at me why they're When we come back, we'll

1130
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: continue some of this quality draft talk from Henry's tavern

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00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,160
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1153
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: but I just say to myself, it's what's up top

1154
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,400
Speaker 1: that matters. Sure, you need men with the muscle and

1155
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,920
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00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,799
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1167
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1168
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Speaker 1: So happy to be here at Henry's Tavern. A lot

1175
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Speaker 1: of our good draft buddies are out here hanging out

1176
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Speaker 1: with us. It's fun to interact. Give it away tickets,

1177
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: got tickets for the draft for this weekend. We've also

1178
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 1: got a Jason Witton jersey signed autograph jersey maybe something

1179
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: to be nice to have in your collection. Yeah, two

1180
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: eighty two. No, you guys are trying to draft his

1181
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: replacement right here. He's fifty three, doesn't matter, he's fifty three. Yeah.

1182
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: Once you're older than the number of players on the roster,

1183
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: you're almost done. Mister Cowboy almost a new mister, new

1184
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: mister Cowboy. He's awesome. I like that though. I like

1185
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 1: that in mister Cowboy bit sixteen years he's my he's

1186
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,600
Speaker 1: my last. Yeah, that was my last guy left dirt.

1187
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: It was Romo and the secret is in the dirt man.

1188
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,880
Speaker 1: You watch that? Hey, watch that dude give a pep

1189
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: talk on that TV show All or Nothing. Yeah'll tell

1190
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 1: you what get it? You? Would you would you play

1191
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: for him? Would you? I mean, would you as a player?

1192
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 1: Would you be like kill for him? Whoa? Whoa? Literally?

1193
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: Do you have a dump button on this? No? I

1194
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: think Okay, that was sarcasm. What I meant was I

1195
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: would do anything for him. There you go, short of

1196
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: taking a life, you would take a bullet for your yourself. Yes,

1197
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: I would jump in front of a bullet for him. Yeah.

1198
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: You can't get us an executive producing helping us out

1199
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: on that's what you're saying. That's what I said. There

1200
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: you go, that's nothing wrong with that, Jeff. You know,

1201
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: we yesterday we did a draft for the for the

1202
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys who we thought that they would take, and

1203
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: just to kind of recap who we did yesterday. Uh,

1204
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: we had Layton Vanderish at one nineteen, Anthony Miller at

1205
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: two fifty, to various more at three eighty one, a

1206
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: nice little draft safety from Southern Miss. Then four one sixteen.

1207
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: We had a little bit of discussion. Brelan speaks. You

1208
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: guys are just going straight down the visit list. Yeah,

1209
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: we little optimistic. We try, We tried. Yeah, we tried

1210
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: to say. But defensive tackle from Old Miss and then

1211
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: Cole Madison of course the tackle the guard tackle from

1212
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: Washington State was at four thirty seven. Edo Smith, Oh,

1213
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 1: good pick, guys, that was a good pick. Which do

1214
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: you like? Which one? Which one the backs do you like?

1215
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: Out of that the Edo Smith? Kelly, that crew. Let

1216
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: me check my board. I think if you're going that

1217
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: deep like niheim Hines that three eighty one't he? Yeah?

1218
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: And probably he's probably third round. Yeah Smith, I've got

1219
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: right behind Kelly. But Mark Walton John Kelly, Edo Smith

1220
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: fourth round. Yeah, and Smith it seems like it's gonna

1221
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: go later than that, So I think that's a great pick.

1222
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Edo Smith that yeah, five one seventy one. And then

1223
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: we went Desmond Harrison again, this is a six one

1224
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:51,479
Speaker 1: ninety two. And then we went Durham Smith, the tight

1225
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: end from Notre Dame at the six one ninety three,

1226
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: sky More KT. We had big influence on sky Moore

1227
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: at two o eight, six round pick linebacker from South Carolina.

1228
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: And then we took Justin Lawlord, the defensive ends from

1229
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: SMU at seven two thirty six. There's just no way

1230
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: they're making ten picks. We just we should around. We

1231
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: can't cann j you you now you did a mock

1232
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: draft for your for your website, though, is it what

1233
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: you did or did you just on your own explain

1234
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: your the athletic for the athletic um. And so what

1235
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: I did was I fired up the fans speak is

1236
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: that you guys did the water. Wait, we just we

1237
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: took we picked all we know, we went down, we

1238
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: right went every single pick, right, we went all the

1239
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: way through. I did that too, Yeah, but I fired

1240
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: up the simulator. And what I did was using my

1241
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: board or kind of our board, right, yeah. Uh. At

1242
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: each pick, I just stopped to look at who are

1243
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: our highest graded guys available and would I do right?

1244
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 1: And so On the first pick, the guys that were

1245
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: available with first round grades were Calvin Ridley right, Ronald

1246
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: Jones USC running back, which shouldn't matter, throw it away,

1247
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: he's a ruback. James Daniels, the offensive lineman from Iowa

1248
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: Maurice Hurst d tackle mission. We need to get the

1249
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: medical information from him. I'm trying to get that. I

1250
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 1: know some teams I talked to have him completely off

1251
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: the board. We need to find this out Thursday, if

1252
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys before we get drafted. If that's the case.

1253
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: And two corners JayR Alexander at Louisville and my Cues

1254
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: at Central Florida. I throughout corner because I think it's

1255
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: less of a need than the other ones. And the

1256
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 1: guy I went with was actually James Daniels, not Ridley,

1257
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 1: not Vander esh and Evans were available, Will Hernandez DJ

1258
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: Moore was available, sure, and I went with James Daniels, okay,

1259
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: because I wanted to pick my left guard to see

1260
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: what would happen. We're doing I was doing an exercise.

1261
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: I liked the pick. I wanted to see problem with it? Okay,

1262
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 1: so he took James Daniels at the one nineteen one

1263
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: nineteen was James Daniels. Okay, Now go down to two

1264
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: fifty and where were you? What were the names on

1265
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 1: your board at that time? Second round? Guys still available?

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01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb running back Georgia throw out. We're not picking

1267
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: a running back yet. Wide receivers Michael Gallup Okay, Anthony Miller,

1268
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: DJ Chark, Trey Kuan Smith at Central Florida, James Washington,

1269
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. Let me stop you there. You just named

1270
01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: I think five wide receivers. Why don't want one at nineteen?

1271
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: See that I want this at fifty. See, this is

1272
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 1: the problem. I don't know. And I wonder if teams

1273
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: are having this problem too, that there's so many guys.

1274
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: Parcels used to say, Oh, they're stacked in there like

1275
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: club sandwiches. Yeah, can you separate these guys? Is there anything?

1276
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: It's it's not I know what I'm saying, but there's

1277
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: not many at the top, but all of a sudden

1278
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: the second round, they're all like packed in there. Yeah,

1279
01:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: And I kind of thought, Okay, well here's the run,

1280
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: but but go ahead. Then I was just I was

1281
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: j DJ Moore is my favorite guy in this draft.

1282
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't want him at nineteen. It doesn't make sense,

1283
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:52,120
Speaker 1: it doesn't don't want is harsh. But there's other options.

1284
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: So I had one running back, five wide receivers, Hayden

1285
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 1: Hurst to tight end at South Carolina, Tyrell Crosby the

1286
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: tack little organ by way I would think about it

1287
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: if I hadn't already picked a guard. Sure, Nathan Shepherd

1288
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 1: the d tackle at forty State of him Duke is

1289
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: GIA four Wake Forest defensive end, and MJ. Stewart cornerback

1290
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: North Carolina. WHOA, that's a little rich for me. Yeah,

1291
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: I wouldn't pick him there, but I have him as

1292
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: a second round. But these are my second round guys

1293
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 1: that were left. Yeah, I got you. I went Anthony Miller.

1294
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: I took Anthony Miller, and I picked the wide receiver. Okay,

1295
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: so you got so you've now completely helped the offense.

1296
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, serious, I'm gonna make so many people mad

1297
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 1: with us next back. And I did it. I did

1298
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 1: it on purpose because I was doing an experiment. Every

1299
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: Bock draft is an experiment. You're seeing how things look.

1300
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: You suck, You're still Let's see if people start throwing

1301
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: Miller light bottles at us here for the third round. Yeah,

1302
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: three eighty one. My third round is available. Darius Leonard linebacker,

1303
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: Josie Jewel linebacker, cornerbacks, Duke Dawson at Florida, Nick Nelson

1304
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: at Wisconsin knee got a knee you had to worry

1305
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,040
Speaker 1: about right there. Six week recovery. They just cleaned up

1306
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: the meniscus. Oh you know about that. You know about

1307
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: those knee surgeries, right, Yeah, you don't want to eight

1308
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: year out on him. Niheem Hines are running back. Yeah,

1309
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,480
Speaker 1: Akram Wadley the eye will run him back. I love him,

1310
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: by the way. Dane's guy, Ian Thomas, the tight end

1311
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 1: at Indiana. Dave is not coming around on him. Dedron

1312
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: Senat and Derek Noddy are my d tackles and strong

1313
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: safety Terrell Edmund. I'm about to lose my mind. So

1314
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: I picked Ian Thomas why as an experiment, an experiment

1315
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: to not help your defense at all. Here was the

1316
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: experiment was if I don't take him here, I know

1317
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: I can't have him in the next round. And I

1318
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: don't like any of the tight ends left linebacker. I

1319
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: wanted to see what would be availed. You don't need

1320
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: a tight end. Why do you need a tight end?

1321
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: Because Jason Witten is almost done. Nobody goes down the

1322
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: field and the guys behind him have three career catches

1323
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: and neither one of them is the heir to the throne.

1324
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: Is Jason Witten going to retire before the season starts? No?

1325
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: Next year? Has he ever missed a game? No? All right,

1326
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 1: then what are we talking about? Well, we need the

1327
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: next guy? Why? Because that's how we that's what the

1328
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: draft is for when killed, just for the future. Can

1329
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 1: we just draft him twenty second? Why can't do my script?

1330
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: This is like it's like in sixth grade when you

1331
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: built the volcano? What place did you finish? I don't think.

1332
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't think he has the guy at the wrong spot. Though.

1333
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 1: It's not nothing to do with his spots. It's just

1334
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,640
Speaker 1: his choices. Yeah, we're down, we're going into so we're

1335
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: pick one sixteen sixteen, and he has selected a defensive player.

1336
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: He's about to pick a linebacker who won't be there

1337
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: at one sixteen, So he might be okay. He was

1338
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: in the simulator. It was Dane's board. Darius Lenard is

1339
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: the fourth round pick. I don't think he'll be there either.

1340
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 1: I don't think he would be either. This is it

1341
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: worked out well here. This is like the guys who

1342
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: tweet us all day, like, look, I got DJ Moore

1343
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: in the third round. That's a great point because after

1344
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard the fifth round is not unrealistic. It was

1345
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: Edo Smith, okay, or that might have been the fourth round.

1346
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 1: Comp who'd you get in the sixth Derese Fountain, Northern Iowa?

1347
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: See Darius Phillips cornerback, Western Michigan. That's that seems like

1348
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: the right Let's go back to Fountain though, would you

1349
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 1: like and you're kind of the wide receiver whisper Dane

1350
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: has been talking about him the Northern Iowa kid. I

1351
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: mean he's like, hey, someone's gonna hit this guy. Maybe

1352
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: fourth round, you know that type of Well, we'll talk

1353
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: about a little bit about what you saw with him

1354
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 1: at Northern Iowa. He had a terrible quarterback. That's I

1355
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: guess that's not what you like about him now. But

1356
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 1: I thought what he liked Brown at Notre Dame well,

1357
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: and so did Calvin Ridley, and so did DJ Moore,

1358
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: and so did lots of others. But I thought for

1359
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: him it was so bad that you're doing some projecting.

1360
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: That's why I don't think he'll go all that high,

1361
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: because you don't get to see him run a ton

1362
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: of routes because of the quarterback limitations. It's a lot

1363
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: of stops, it's a lot of slant routes, and it's

1364
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: a lot of chunk it down the field and hope.

1365
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: But I think he's really really good at the top

1366
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 1: of the route. He is one of the best in

1367
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: this class at when we get to the top of

1368
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: a route, I have to throw this guy off of

1369
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 1: me because my quarterback's not any good, right and we

1370
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,440
Speaker 1: can't run anything down the field. They know I'm running

1371
01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: stop routes. I just have to move them. And he

1372
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 1: moves them and makes place. Oh he physically moves is

1373
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: what he does. Yeah, tested well, Uh, great at the

1374
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: Shrine game, great during the Shrine week. Don't know if

1375
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 1: he has a lot of long speed, but he's he's

1376
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: got that short area burst. I just I think there's

1377
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: a lot to work with. I don't think guy you

1378
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: want to throw. He was a guy on the thirty

1379
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: visits for a lot of teams that they and the

1380
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 1: reason why is because of the medical because he didn't

1381
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: go to the combine right, so he had to go

1382
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: and hit a lot of these uh you know, get

1383
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: physicals because teams didn't know a whole physic didn't know

1384
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: much about him. So okay, oh I missed Derek Naughty

1385
01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:36,120
Speaker 1: the Florida State dtackle. We took him in the fourth

1386
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,800
Speaker 1: compick I fourth ron compick. Hate your mock draft because

1387
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: I got too many good values. It's Dane's board. They're

1388
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: all good players. Yeah, Leonard's probably not there. Naughty I

1389
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: doubt is there. Fountain maybe not. But other than that,

1390
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: we're good. I'll tell you what I liked it. You

1391
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: can just move Leonard up to the third if it

1392
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 1: makes you feel bad. It doesn't, then we'll just play

1393
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: it out a different way. It does make me feel better.

1394
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: You don't like it because because the the just the

1395
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: because it'll be there. No, No, he's probably because of

1396
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: the offensive players. It's well, it's okay. I don't think

1397
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: this team needs a tight end on day one or

1398
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: day two or you know what I'm trying to like.

1399
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: I don't see the point. This team needs somebody to

1400
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: run down the field and make a pleasure. Right now,

1401
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: they have zero people to not gonna be on the field.

1402
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,760
Speaker 1: He's not gonna be on the field. I'm not well.

1403
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: When is the coach? When are we When are you

1404
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: gonna have the coaching staff informed? Jason Witten? We love you,

1405
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 1: You're a captain. You play a bunch of snaps. You

1406
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 1: don't play every snap? Do you believe that? All again,

1407
01:08:31,880 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 1: this goes back to what you think should happen, or

1408
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: what you think will happen. Should happen to this doesn't?

1409
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: That does nothing for me. I'm here to coach. Should

1410
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: happen does nothing for me. Will happen matters? And I'm

1411
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: saying Jason Witten will play ninety five percent or more

1412
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: of the snaps. All right, we'll pick a tight end

1413
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. There we go. That's fine. That

1414
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,719
Speaker 1: might be a new staff. The other thing is good point,

1415
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 1: you really feel good enough about this defense that you're

1416
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: not going to address it until the third or fourth round.

1417
01:08:57,560 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about this defense. I think if

1418
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: you pick up up one linebacker that you think can

1419
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 1: play fifty percent of the snaps, you're okay on defense

1420
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: by picking him where you did too, I do I

1421
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:12,840
Speaker 1: like him. I like Leonard too. I know to be

1422
01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: I'll argue against myself. Anthony Hitchins was not a bad

1423
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: player as a rookie as a fourth round pick. Oh,

1424
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: it was really good. So I mean it can be done.

1425
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: But man, I really we could have taken Josie Jewel there.

1426
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: Surely you think he can step in and play right?

1427
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: The offense is just not The offense is not a

1428
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 1: problem for me right now, Like there's ways you could

1429
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: improve it, to be sure. Okay, So here's what I'm doing.

1430
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 1: What I'm doing is what you've been doing to me.

1431
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,479
Speaker 1: I'm asking what is this team going to do? Like

1432
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: with this coaching staff, I think your struggles are if

1433
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: adversity hits, somebody gets hurt, how are we going to

1434
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: do adjust for it? Now? If everything is perfect, how

1435
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,840
Speaker 1: are we going to win with this team? We're going

1436
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 1: to block everyone, We're going to protect our quarterback perfectly,

1437
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get five or six yards every point.

1438
01:09:58,920 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: That's our plan. So let's get the players to do it.

1439
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 1: But I think you can do that without using your

1440
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: nineteenth overall pick on a guard well, then why don't

1441
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: we do it better? Well, I mean there's that what

1442
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: if we score on every drive? I get it, we

1443
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: could do that. Man, I just I just can't. I

1444
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: just can't understand. I cannot stop thinking about that three

1445
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: or four games stretch where they didn't have an effective

1446
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 1: linebacker and they literally looked like a high school team.

1447
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: Oh be honest. My biggest problem is that we watched

1448
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:28,759
Speaker 1: the players. That's my biggest problem is that in these spots,

1449
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: when I got there, it's my best player. When I

1450
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: got there, it's my best player. And I have to

1451
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: go away from that at positions where I do need

1452
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: help in order to go a different route. How do

1453
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: you think they see their defense? Well, they gotta know

1454
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,439
Speaker 1: they need a linebacker or two. How about two. They

1455
01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,240
Speaker 1: got to know they need at least one. Problem. There's

1456
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: things I don't always agree with Nicky about, But Nicky's like,

1457
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,519
Speaker 1: look at the linebackers. They need a safety, just one

1458
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: in the room. He doesn't have to it's depth, but

1459
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: they need How about the safety? About the long term

1460
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 1: outlook of your defensive tackles. I want to know from

1461
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 1: the time we started this show until right now, I've

1462
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 1: gone from like maybe they'll pick Vita Vea too. They

1463
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: gotta pick Vita Vea. Like this sounds great to me.

1464
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:11,800
Speaker 1: I like that you're helping out a lot of people

1465
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 1: with that pick, right, And I mean you taught David

1466
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: Irving what's his long term future here? Yeah, he's got

1467
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:21,160
Speaker 1: one year exactly. See to me, looking at these defens

1468
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: with David Irving, I look at I look at a

1469
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: situation where they go the defensive tackles it was yesterday.

1470
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,040
Speaker 1: Didn't bother me. I'm sitting in a situation where I'm

1471
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:34,679
Speaker 1: thinking they need defensive tackles anyway. I mean it wasn't.

1472
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at being hurt, that needs

1473
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: a little more dire if he can't play at all

1474
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: because he's not available for sure. So sure, I mean

1475
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: there's that yeah. So see, I'm just I just don't

1476
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: know what they really think about their defense, you know,

1477
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: because they talked about it today with you know, Chris Richard.

1478
01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 1: You know, they said, oh, we're gonna do some things different.

1479
01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: They have Byron Jones and all. You know, what, what

1480
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: are they going to do different? I mean they're glad,

1481
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 1: they're glass half full people, and I'm a glass half empty. Person.

1482
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 1: Sure's how I am. So, I'm sure that even had

1483
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: a quarterback in a decade. Now, I'm just taking shots

1484
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: they can do that because nobody cares how ableeen Christian does.

1485
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: That's a good point, um, But I'm sure they I'm

1486
01:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 1: sure they feel good about it, and you know, in

1487
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: the optimistic sense. But again, I mean, if there is

1488
01:12:23,439 --> 01:12:26,600
Speaker 1: a position on a football team that they feel like

1489
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,960
Speaker 1: they have to address in this draft, it's got to

1490
01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 1: be linebacker, right yeah, I would think. So if I

1491
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: tell you could only make one pick this weekend, what

1492
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,880
Speaker 1: are you picking one pick? Yeah? I need lineback, I means, yeah, yeah,

1493
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the best play, all right. I Well,

1494
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I admire Jeffrey I do, and I know

1495
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: I get where he's coming from. But I don't know

1496
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: there's You're right, I factor in need too, But I

1497
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: think you need a linebacker. I do think you need

1498
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,720
Speaker 1: an offensive line. Well, but I mean me personally, I

1499
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 1: mean I came from the school in Green Bay where

1500
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 1: it was it was best available. I mean I learned

1501
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson. That's I mean, that's let me ask

1502
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 1: you this, that's crazy talk, right Well, in and in

1503
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: a in a in a vacuum, it's not. But for

1504
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:16,240
Speaker 1: this team it is. Well ask me what go ahead? No, no,

1505
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: I mean that's it's an interesting thought. Well, Lamar Jackson's

1506
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: there at nineteen. Is he the best player on that?

1507
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: And that is an extreme example, one of the one

1508
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: of my top guys. You can take it back. You

1509
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 1: can take it back to last year. Dalvin Cook was

1510
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: there when they picked and there ended up. It's turned

1511
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 1: into best it's best available, best available with need, right,

1512
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: that's what it's turned to and need. But I think

1513
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:43,080
Speaker 1: unless you are the Ron Wolf Green Bay Packers, and

1514
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: unless unless we just know you're going to the playoffs,

1515
01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: then that that's how everybody funds. But the probably the

1516
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:50,680
Speaker 1: thing about it is I felt like though, if you

1517
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: did best available player to start and then you hit

1518
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: needs after the first two rounds, then I felt like

1519
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: you you had best you know, at least of a chance.

1520
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 1: It's of missing that first pick. That's kind of what

1521
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,800
Speaker 1: I always thought. I sound like a broken record, but

1522
01:14:05,840 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: I've never been more clueless or more intrigued about what

1523
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. And in the first round, I mean,

1524
01:14:11,640 --> 01:14:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, the big picks. I mean, either this is

1525
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: a fascinating draft. It's I think it's I think this

1526
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: is gonna be an all timer. Not in I mean,

1527
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: who knows what it's gonna be like in terms of

1528
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,680
Speaker 1: like how it pans out. Honestly, if like this, I

1529
01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 1: feel like this could be a lot like twenty thirteen,

1530
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,720
Speaker 1: where you look at it and you're like, a lot

1531
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:31,839
Speaker 1: of these guys were not very good. Let me ask

1532
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 1: But in terms of the unpredictability of it, I think

1533
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of the craziest drafts. Let me

1534
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: ask you this. There's a guy who won't let me

1535
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: take an offensive line I didn't say that. Do you

1536
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 1: acknowledge that in the first three rounds you think, hope

1537
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: and dream that it's a linebacker, a wide receiver, and

1538
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman in some order. Yes, Okay, that's yes.

1539
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: I think that's the ideal. So we're just arguing about order. Okay,

1540
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: I get you, I'll get you to the second round,

1541
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 1: shall I should I go through the order that we've

1542
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: best combinations that we talked about with Yeah, that was

1543
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,559
Speaker 1: one of my favorite shows. Do you still you have

1544
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: to have the list? Right? Yeah? Give it to me

1545
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: that one? All right? Now? I'm gonna give it to you. Okay,

1546
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 1: I give it to you. We had best combinations, Okay,

1547
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,880
Speaker 1: and you weren't here. Give me the one with Quentin Nelson.

1548
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: Best combinations were at some point? Yeah, didn't we really? No? No,

1549
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: best combination one stopped stepping on my cord. Cavanaugh, your

1550
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:24,560
Speaker 1: cord and the right place. Have a little respect for

1551
01:15:24,680 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 1: Miller Lite best best best combinations. Ridley Jewel Bates. Okay,

1552
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: Ridley Jewel Bait. That's a good one. Order did you go?

1553
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: I just spoiler alert. They're all They're all good. That's

1554
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 1: the point. No, they're not. How about DJ Moore Shepherd

1555
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: and More the Safety Shepherd to various more and more too. McGlinchey,

1556
01:15:49,000 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: Jisicky Warner, Is that one again? Mc McGlinchey, Jisicky and Warner.

1557
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:58,759
Speaker 1: That one's out. I'm not even ok Vanderesh Harrison, Saint Brown.

1558
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't have to write that one now, Okay, Landry Miller,

1559
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: Leonard This is fun Landry Miller and Leonard Okay, Evans

1560
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 1: Sharts sonat Oh, that's fun. I don't remember. Go ahead, sorry?

1561
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 1: And then how about Hernandez Gallop and Avery oh Man

1562
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: after my own heart? You like that one, well, yeah,

1563
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 1: Gallup gives that one extra points. And then and then

1564
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 1: last one would be Veya Golden and Hamilton Penn State Hamiltons. Okay,

1565
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: let's see. And I asked those I asked the guys

1566
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,800
Speaker 1: what that? Who would be their best combination at it?

1567
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: Since you guys brought up the best combination or you're

1568
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: talking about it, I was curious, Now, what do you

1569
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 1: think about that? The best three combination? I think the

1570
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: last time we hate that. I didn't get a guard here,

1571
01:16:46,720 --> 01:16:49,759
Speaker 1: but Landry Miller Leonard is really, really good. Landry Miller

1572
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 1: Leonard is the only one that matters. To throw them

1573
01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: all out. I didn't get a guard though. It doesn't matter.

1574
01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,840
Speaker 1: Dave got Marcus Martin. You can't just say words and

1575
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 1: make them starters. So your guard ass her Nandez Gallop

1576
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: and you like Gallop? I do like Gallop. So what

1577
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 1: do we think about Avery? It's the Memphis kid. I

1578
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 1: love him. Throw Joe Looney in there at guard. It'll

1579
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 1: be fine. Oh we're gonna stop that. If if Joe

1580
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,880
Speaker 1: Loudey were here, I would hug Joe Looney. That doesn't

1581
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: make him a starter. Really, you did a lot of

1582
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: good drafts. Did anybody tell you that? Yeah, these are

1583
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: all very good. Brian's really good at making you make

1584
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:31,160
Speaker 1: an unfortunate choice. I'm gonna eliminate the one with Hamilton

1585
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:36,440
Speaker 1: and and Golf just because I love Miller and Gallop more. Yeah,

1586
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: Dj Moore Shepherd is the fort Hayes Dey tackles him

1587
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: and more the free safety. That's good. Ridley Jewel Bates

1588
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: is better, So that's out. Okay, he's keeping the guard alive, Dave.

1589
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 1: You know I'm keeping the guard alive. But I thought

1590
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: he'd keep the guard alive because he likes Gallop. I

1591
01:17:56,120 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: don't have Evans as a one, so they're out to

1592
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we got three good drafts. Ridley Jewel Bates, Yeah,

1593
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: Landry Anthony Miller, Darius Leonard Hernandez Gallop Avery. Yah. Are

1594
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: you comfortable with Avery playing fifty percent of the snaps

1595
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: as your mic? Sure? I am. I'm coming very comfortable

1596
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,560
Speaker 1: with him. And by the way, if you're on periscope

1597
01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 1: as well, give us sure three I'll read off some

1598
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,879
Speaker 1: of these. The only reason this is hard is because

1599
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: Jeff is stubborn lying at hearing. Oh no, he That's

1600
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying we're seeing how how much he's dug

1601
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 1: in on taking a guard, which is first Mickey would

1602
01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: say guard, they need a guard, they need a garden

1603
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 1: one on Dallas Cowboys. Oh it's it's get the ten

1604
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: sack pass. Landry would be the best first round pick

1605
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: of the group. To me, well, now he's trying to

1606
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: mix and match. No, no, no, I just I'm trying

1607
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 1: to I'm power ranking here. Ridley is the second best

1608
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: first round pick. Hernandez is third. The best second round

1609
01:19:00,479 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 1: pick is Michael Gallop, the second best is Miller, the

1610
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:12,879
Speaker 1: third best is Jewel. The best third round pick is Bates.

1611
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: That's a number one. Second best will be Leonard. I

1612
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:22,559
Speaker 1: feel like I'm watching, so we're adding and like golf,

1613
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 1: we want a low number. That one's seven, that one's five,

1614
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 1: and this one is six, which means our winner is Landry, Miller, Leonard.

1615
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,760
Speaker 1: And you know that's the one that I said five

1616
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 1: minutes ago. And you know it's funny about that one

1617
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,240
Speaker 1: that's probably got time to fill, but that that is

1618
01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 1: probably the one that has the least chance of happening. Happen. Yeah,

1619
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,760
Speaker 1: y won't be there when you could argue none of

1620
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:48,559
Speaker 1: the three. Can I ask you this. I'm sure I'm

1621
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: gonna hijack this for a second. You surely may cheers?

1622
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 1: Are we uh? Are we talking enough? Are we not

1623
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: talking enough about the trade doown? Scenario? Is that we

1624
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 1: need to trade doown? Is it realist stick to think

1625
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 1: that they could? Which? Yeah, absolutely, I think ninety percent

1626
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 1: of Cowboys, fans, analysts, whatever would say a trade down

1627
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:12,719
Speaker 1: sounds favorable. My dream is it possible? He Can't's possible?

1628
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: And here's my dream for you. This is my dream

1629
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 1: for you, my dream for you. We're gonna trade down.

1630
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: You can do a lot of work with an extra

1631
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,880
Speaker 1: day to pick you. Guys are gonna have to find

1632
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: the destination to where we're going downs. Were player. We

1633
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: got to determine where the value of the player is.

1634
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,599
Speaker 1: We're picking Evans. Okay, we're going down and we're picking

1635
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: Rashaun Evans. Who's trade getting your linebacker for you? Yeah?

1636
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm in. Somebody's coming up for mcglinchew. Okay, New England, Okay, okay,

1637
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: let's talk about the teams that could come up then.

1638
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 1: New England at twenty three, Carolina twenty four, because Cincinnati

1639
01:20:47,479 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 1: could use an offensive lineman so could Detroit. So that's

1640
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 1: that twenty and twenty one. So New England at twenty three,

1641
01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: Carolina at twenty four, New Orleans at twenty seven. Is

1642
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: there a dire need for a tackle there? They have

1643
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: ram Chick the well, okay, I'm thinking they're gonna maybe

1644
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,639
Speaker 1: we'll get Connor Williams. Say they're going to get Connor Williams,

1645
01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: who they they could play guards center. Okay, because they

1646
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: worked out Connor Williams as as that guy. They worked

1647
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: out that as him as a guard center combination. So

1648
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: so I'm hey, anybody that wants them, I'm all for it.

1649
01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: Trade up, give me your picks. Let's go third round pick.

1650
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: You know, you pick up an extra three. What is

1651
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,560
Speaker 1: what in New England? What does New England have to

1652
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 1: give me to go up from twenty three, Because that's

1653
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: not a huge job. They've got to give you the

1654
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: third round pick. And let's see if they've got a

1655
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: third they've got let's see what they've got on third

1656
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: round picks. The third round picks at ninety five. Yeah,

1657
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: so you would pick up you would pick up ninety five,

1658
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,840
Speaker 1: so that would give you you would be picking again

1659
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,840
Speaker 1: at let's say you'd pick at twenty three, twenty three.

1660
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: Evaluate that trade we're picking up. Let's get all the numbers.

1661
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: Let's evaluate the trade with the trade. Hold on. We

1662
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: are going from no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1663
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 1: give me, just give me. That's the that's New England.

1664
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: That's New England. Just say that's New England. If we

1665
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,920
Speaker 1: make that trade, that's New England. Yeah, put in New

1666
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 1: England there. If we go to Carolina, I'm not following

1667
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 1: him either. Oh no, no, I got it now. It

1668
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: took me a minute, but I got it now. He's

1669
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: just saying labelt. That's if we try, yeah, label and

1670
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,120
Speaker 1: see which one's the best trade for us here. Okay,

1671
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 1: you're going to Carolina. That's gonna also net you a

1672
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 1: third round pick. Carolina has in the third round. Let's

1673
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: see what they've got. Carolina will be at eighty five,

1674
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: and they got one at eighty five and one at

1675
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 1: eighty eight, so they've got two of them. So you

1676
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: can pick at twenty four. Both of them are aways

1677
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 1: ahead of ninety five. There for giving up one spot,

1678
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,839
Speaker 1: and we can still get Evans. We're going to Carolina

1679
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: twenty four, fifty eighty one and eighty five Yep, we're

1680
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,559
Speaker 1: going to Carolina. Yeah, I like that. Okay about okay,

1681
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: now let's evaluate the Saints. This is gonna be the Saints.

1682
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: You're gonna give you a three and a four to

1683
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 1: move up to your spot. So think about that. Okay,

1684
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: we know we're gonna get our guy at twenty seven.

1685
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: Who are our guys? Can we say Evans and Hernandez

1686
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: Evans as um a receiver? I mean yeah, I think

1687
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 1: you thought you could think about your receivers. We'll get

1688
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:15,679
Speaker 1: a guy. We'll get a guy we really like because

1689
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: in the mock draft yesterday, DJ Moore went to Carolina

1690
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,640
Speaker 1: at twenty four. Not only that, but I'm if you

1691
01:23:20,720 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: give me two extra picks and move me back to

1692
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 1: twenty seven, I'm I'll draft Courtland Sudden. I'll take him

1693
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: at twenty seven if I get two extra picks. Okay,

1694
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 1: with that two extra picks? Am I okay? With that pick? Yeah?

1695
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: Let me let me give you the one to know

1696
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: the other names available, Yes, let me get you. Let

1697
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: me get you the names. Let me let me get

1698
01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: you the picks. Okay. If we moved to if we

1699
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:43,600
Speaker 1: moved to New Orleans again, that's going from nineteen to

1700
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: twenty seven. That's a third round in a fourth round

1701
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:50,760
Speaker 1: the Saints currently own they own they would own a

1702
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 1: pick number ninety one that would be in the third round,

1703
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,599
Speaker 1: and then let's go and they would own pick one

1704
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: twenty six. So those are their two picks. So the Saints, yeah,

1705
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,920
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna rather take the Carolina trade. Yeah, because

1706
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: the Carolina trade him at twenty four instead of twenty seven,

1707
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,600
Speaker 1: and I get eighty five instead of ninety one and

1708
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,839
Speaker 1: one twenty six, I agree with what I'll take Carolina.

1709
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: So all right, does Carolina offer your spot then where

1710
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: you feel like you can take the guy you need? Yes,

1711
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:27,080
Speaker 1: and we've determined it's Evans, right, is that who we're

1712
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: trading down four to acknowledge the biggest need, and we're

1713
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,280
Speaker 1: gonna pick the mic he's playing ball. He's playing ball.

1714
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to be your friend. Yeah, you're trying to

1715
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: be your friend like that because then I'm gonna get

1716
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: my receiver. And if we need to package these to

1717
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: come get our linebacker, we can do it. Where can

1718
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:44,799
Speaker 1: you take pain durn Payne? Not in the first okay,

1719
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: but you're already but you're you're thinking about you're really

1720
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: drafted second round players at twenty four anyway, right, twenty

1721
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: four scenes high. Twenty four is a little high for

1722
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: Evans too, but again I need the linebacker. Who do

1723
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 1: you feel better about? Then? You feel better about Evans

1724
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: than you do? Ye? Really better than Pain? Yeah? Okay?

1725
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,759
Speaker 1: Do you feel about your guard? Hernandez? Hernandez versus Evans

1726
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: and Pain? Hernandez might be my top guy out of those. Yeah,

1727
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 1: I'll take but Dave. We gotta do what David's doing. Oh,

1728
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: we can go now, Okay, can we go? Yeah, okay,

1729
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:17,679
Speaker 1: we're taking Hernandez. Jeric. I didn't know Dave was gonna

1730
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 1: let us. That's why I was trading down. I'll take

1731
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: Hernandez at twenty four. Okay, So what if I get

1732
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,600
Speaker 1: Daniels at twenty four? Huh? I don't think so. What

1733
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,719
Speaker 1: if Daniels goes off? They because the team that worries

1734
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: the team and Saniels is gonna go twenty or twenty one.

1735
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:33,320
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Go to Detroit, Detroit or Cincinnati.

1736
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 1: That's Cincinnati will take a big ten player. That's what

1737
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: they do. They do. That's the that's the Paul Brown

1738
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm waiting doing things. I'm gonna trust you because you

1739
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:46,680
Speaker 1: called Joe Mixing to Cincinnati like sure had a time.

1740
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: Everybody drafts big ten players. We talk about game no, no, no,

1741
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:53,080
Speaker 1: But the Bengals. I gambled on Mixing going to Cincinnati,

1742
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 1: but I didn't know they would trade back. So I

1743
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: lost the wager because it was an over under number,

1744
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 1: and I knew who was gonna pick him. I just

1745
01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:01,400
Speaker 1: didn't know they'd trade back picking. That's a bummer. That hurt.

1746
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: That hurt. I'm sorry, but you feel like, Okay, you

1747
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 1: don't want to, you don't want you don't like. What

1748
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: if the Saints just off you there two? Would you

1749
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: feel better about that instead of taking the back to

1750
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: back picks that you didn't you get there? Two? There? Two?

1751
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,680
Speaker 1: To do? What to to come up to? Come up

1752
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: to kid? Maybe they're doing good? What's there too? Come

1753
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: home fifty something? Well, let's make sure they have a two.

1754
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: I don't see a two. Foh you know what did

1755
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,599
Speaker 1: they give up there too to get Kamara last year?

1756
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:31,679
Speaker 1: They probably did. They don't have it too. They don't

1757
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: have a two. Oh, I'll screw them, no, go away. Yeah,

1758
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 1: we're traded with Carolina, Brian So, okay, so our trade back,

1759
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: our spot we want to get to then as Carolina,

1760
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 1: all right, yep, rather than y'all get y'all get so

1761
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: wrapped up in these hypothetical specifics. What I want to know,

1762
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: is it realistic to trade back, come up for who

1763
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: could be there at nineteen? That makes somebody want to

1764
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: come up, That's what I want. McGlinchey. McGlinchey, Yeah, maybe

1765
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: maybe Connor Williams maybe, yeah, Colton Miller, yeah, any not

1766
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: for me, but somebody for Colton Miller. Yeah. Do any

1767
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 1: of us believe that it could be a quarterback? I don't.

1768
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,120
Speaker 1: I think the quarterbacks are gone by fifteen. Get somebody

1769
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: to come up for vander esh us not pick him. No,

1770
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,800
Speaker 1: nobody's trading up for a Boise Stay linebacker. I think

1771
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:21,360
Speaker 1: that's hurtful. I'm sorry. So it's Carolina. It's gotta beIN.

1772
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 1: You're taking a line. It's got to be one of

1773
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 1: these tackles, And it makes I just I don't put

1774
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: that much stock in the thought of trading back because

1775
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't know how likely that is. What if you

1776
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,040
Speaker 1: win all the way back to my especially when people

1777
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 1: have great dreams do you immediately when they wake up?

1778
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,880
Speaker 1: Wasn't real? I'm the guy that craps on your dreams. Yeah,

1779
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 1: that's me. That's kind of my brand. Unfortunately it's the

1780
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 1: terrible brand. But that's just the card that's I've been dealt.

1781
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 1: All right, You won't go to New Orleans? Though? Would

1782
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,040
Speaker 1: you go to? Would you go to Pittsburgh for their second?

1783
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: Would you go to would you go to the twenty

1784
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: nine yeast? Would be coming up for a linebacker? What's there?

1785
01:27:56,040 --> 01:27:58,360
Speaker 1: What's their second? Maybe coming up for vander Their second

1786
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 1: is at A sixty twenty nine. Oh so we're doing

1787
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen all over again? Yeah, so you're doing twenty nine,

1788
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: twenty nine fifty sixty, Yeah, twenty nine fifty sixty. Yeah again,

1789
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: because at twenty nine, I feel comfortable drafting Courtland Sutton.

1790
01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't think Pittsburgh's gonna move beyond the way if

1791
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 1: you do, if you study their history, they're just gonna

1792
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,080
Speaker 1: wait for Rashana. They're gonna sit there. That the aggressive

1793
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: team is maybe New England? All right? Now going to

1794
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 1: thirty one, you're interested in going doing that? We already

1795
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: went to twenty three. But again, what can what can

1796
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 1: they offer me, So thirty one, they got picks, they've

1797
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 1: got there, there's they're six, they're they're one hundred and seventy.

1798
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:39,200
Speaker 1: They're actually two hundred and seventy five light if we are,

1799
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 1: if we are dropping twelve spots, it better be a

1800
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 1: hell of a train. You need sixty three twenty or so,

1801
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: thirty one, sixty three, twenty thirty one, fifty sixty three, right,

1802
01:28:50,080 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 1: any more than that, right, that's probably unrealistic. Yeah, that No,

1803
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: that's on the number. Yeah, that's right on the number.

1804
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 1: That's a long drop. So it makes me feel better

1805
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 1: about drafting Courtland Sutton, though I'll draft him at thirty one. Okay,

1806
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: So we determined the better thing to do would be

1807
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,360
Speaker 1: to stay then go to Carolina. If you're gonna drop,

1808
01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: go to Carolina. If you're gonna drop, target Carolina. If

1809
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: we go to Carolina, we take Will Hernandez at twenty four,

1810
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 1: it's fine. Okay, we get to fifty. Uh, you're gonna

1811
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: want your linebacker here, right? Sure? Who's who's a second

1812
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:28,200
Speaker 1: round linebacker? Board? Yeah? Okay, So we took Jewel at fifty, right,

1813
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: we can package eighty one and eighty five to come

1814
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,519
Speaker 1: up for Michael Gallup. Maybe he makes it to eighty one.

1815
01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 1: This is for me. I know I'm winning dreams here. Yeah,

1816
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 1: I know we're having great dreads. We're having an incredible draft.

1817
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna nudge or you can maybe sit there

1818
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:42,479
Speaker 1: and get the receiver at eighty one and turn around

1819
01:29:42,479 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 1: and get the safety at eighty five. I really just

1820
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: need a body at safety. Oh you sound terrible right now.

1821
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: They've been playing with bodies, Jeff, I just need a dude.

1822
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 1: He's not gonna start now, he will. Jeff thinks Xavier

1823
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: Woods is an all pro and I like Xavier Woods.

1824
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna save this whole show because what a Savior

1825
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1826
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Speaker 1: about whether or not he's a good player. It's about Egyptians.

1827
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1828
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Speaker 1: Is the Dallas Cowboys dot com Draft Showboys on the Clock.

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Speaker 1: You're back here with the draft show here from Henry's Tavern.

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Speaker 1: Excited we just gave away a Jason Witton, Jersey, and

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Speaker 1: so we want to hind signed yes from our our

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Speaker 1: brothers here at Dallas Cowboys. But Todd Chapman, who came

1875
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: by said hello, was in the building, says he watches

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Speaker 1: all our videos and kind of checks us out. So

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Speaker 1: we appreciate all the things that he's done. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: all the fans out there too, Appreciate everybody again that

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Speaker 1: kind of has followed along. It's been a long journey.

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Speaker 1: Voice and uh soon Flor's here from Australia. Oh that's true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Glory from Australia. It's here from Australia. I tell you what. Absolutely,

1882
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Speaker 1: there we go. I forgot you were from Australia though, huh,

1883
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Speaker 1: well done. You come every year though, right, every couple

1884
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: of years. Yeah, there's not a time of year where

1885
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 1: the international appeal of the league is more obvious than

1886
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:24,640
Speaker 1: the draft because people people will be tweeting us on

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Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday from Australia, the UK. How about this.

1888
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Speaker 1: I did Germany, I did a Denmark. I did skype

1889
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Speaker 1: today with the UK Cowboys. Those those guys and yeah,

1890
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:38,000
Speaker 1: so I'm sure they're probably all up listening right now.

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Speaker 1: Did the show. But did you wear this? I was

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Speaker 1: all white. It looks good. Shirt only wears fishing shirts

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Speaker 1: and the occasional white fishing shirts. Yeah, I would call

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Speaker 1: this a fishing shirt. Workplace attire, guys, I don't know radio. Yeah,

1895
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Speaker 1: it were flip flops and all that stuff. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, guys, this, who is going to be the

1897
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Speaker 1: biggest surprise in this draft? The first round of the draft?

1898
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Speaker 1: The biggest where you know it's been one of those

1899
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Speaker 1: We're sitting there doing it on Friday night and we're

1900
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,639
Speaker 1: gonna look at this thing. We're gonna go wow, Frank,

1901
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,800
Speaker 1: Now I mean is that? I mean you're going off

1902
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,439
Speaker 1: of their tape. It's Colton Miller yacause he should be

1903
01:34:17,479 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: taken on the third day. But is that the one

1904
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 1: when you know it's a quarterbacks get picked? Let me,

1905
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,720
Speaker 1: I'll ask you if Rudolph is a one, that's what

1906
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that would be a sur would be a

1907
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: surprise to me. What if Lamargo is in the top ten?

1908
01:34:28,760 --> 01:34:30,600
Speaker 1: Is that a surprise? Now? No, because I haven't the

1909
01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 1: second best quarterback on my board. But I mean, based

1910
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: on what sass Plug like, the three of us shouldn't

1911
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,120
Speaker 1: be surprised by a damn near or anything that happens.

1912
01:34:40,160 --> 01:34:42,000
Speaker 1: I'd take him a one. No, but the one, but

1913
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,960
Speaker 1: like ragnow would just surprise me that that one would

1914
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:49,160
Speaker 1: surprise I think I think Rudolph. I think six quarterbacks

1915
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Speaker 1: go in the first round. You think Rudolph goes that's

1916
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Teams need quarter I mean you know

1917
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,280
Speaker 1: New England they got two picks, they need a quarterback. Yeah,

1918
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,840
Speaker 1: stuff like that just kind of stands out to me

1919
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 1: at and and I know you don't like Colton Miller. Y'all,

1920
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,479
Speaker 1: y'all fix it on the tape, and you should. You

1921
01:35:06,560 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: should trust the tape. I get it, but because like

1922
01:35:09,479 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: what do you know what they're doing on tape? Playing football? Right?

1923
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you for what to do, patronizing me. Okay,

1924
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 1: but it's like I said, need is such a big

1925
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 1: part of this that nobody wants to acknowledge. And there's

1926
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,600
Speaker 1: only so many offensive packs. Why wouldn't you pick a

1927
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,679
Speaker 1: good one? But Colton Miller is gonna go before Tyrell Crosby,

1928
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 1: the organ king. If you gotta have one, and you

1929
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 1: think a guy fits what you do here, it only

1930
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 1: takes one team, It only takes one team. Is that

1931
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Speaker 1: This is a question for Brian who turn face him. Sorry, Step,

1932
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 1: all you do is still what's wrong with y'all? Like

1933
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: everybody who works in the NFL, we can call the

1934
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,840
Speaker 1: guys are going to be that are overdrafted because of

1935
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 1: the measurables in the work. We know who we're gonna be,

1936
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 1: and we know it's not gonna work with. When it doesn't,

1937
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 1: they're gonna do it again. We marched to the numbers.

1938
01:36:03,200 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 1: We marched the numbers. Do with quarterbacks. I did it

1939
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 1: with quarterback and the kid Josh Allen. There's a guy

1940
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 1: he marched to the numbers. Somebody's gonna pay a lot

1941
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:12,840
Speaker 1: of money to that guy, and I hope it works

1942
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: out for him. That's what I'm saying, though, You just

1943
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 1: you get so focused on measurables. And I've tried so

1944
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: hard since we've all done this now for five years,

1945
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: I've tried so hard to keep a different attitude about don't.

1946
01:36:24,600 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 1: Don't be married to the numbers, Brian, don't be married

1947
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 1: to you know. It's like Chark. You know he's six three,

1948
01:36:30,080 --> 01:36:32,760
Speaker 1: he's one ninety seven, he runs four three? Does he

1949
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,160
Speaker 1: play like that? See? And that's what I'm saying you

1950
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 1: and I have lived that every week in LSU. We

1951
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 1: die and you know we just ah, well, you make

1952
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 1: that play. But somebody's gonna fall in love with the

1953
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,559
Speaker 1: numbers because they always do well. Renzo Carter the Georgia,

1954
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,120
Speaker 1: he's a guy when there somebody. Some people have him

1955
01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: mocked in the first round, say he's a player. Yeah,

1956
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 1: but that that work. New England could take him at

1957
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:58,400
Speaker 1: thirty one. I mean, that's the That's what I'm saying.

1958
01:36:58,439 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 1: New England didn't care what we think. By the way,

1959
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 1: nobody pay them, why should they. They keep going to

1960
01:37:03,120 --> 01:37:05,280
Speaker 1: the snow. But but but scouts, I mean, they tend

1961
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,720
Speaker 1: to fall in line with the numbers. That's the thing

1962
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,679
Speaker 1: I mean, And that's why. But that's why Mason Rudolph

1963
01:37:11,720 --> 01:37:14,600
Speaker 1: might get drafted. I mean the counter argument to that,

1964
01:37:14,720 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: and it works out sometimes. I mean, you you have

1965
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: a system, you have you have your your benchmarks, Like

1966
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,040
Speaker 1: this guy's arms need to be this long. He needs

1967
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: a three cone that does this, or I don't want

1968
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Carl Laws our offensive sure if that's part of it too.

1969
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 1: Our offensive tackles have to hit a certain bench So yeah,

1970
01:37:31,200 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, a I mean the Patriots stand

1971
01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 1: out to me too, because you're like, we're going to

1972
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 1: the playoffs anyway. Our thresholds are working. Yeah, are We're

1973
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs anyway. So let's draft Colton Miller

1974
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: at twenty three because because we're smarter than everybody else.

1975
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: Well not only well just there's there's five tackles that

1976
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: make sense in the first two rounds and we gotta

1977
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 1: have one, so we might as well draft this guy

1978
01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: that fits our benchmarks, you know what I mean? How

1979
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 1: about the surprise the other way we talk about Colton Miller,

1980
01:37:56,439 --> 01:37:58,599
Speaker 1: that testing is going to send him to the first round.

1981
01:37:58,680 --> 01:38:01,360
Speaker 1: His tape says, what yeah, fourth fifth round? Guy, you

1982
01:38:01,479 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 1: have to say, zeus right now? Brown? Yeah, t says

1983
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: what late one second round? And that's what happened. What

1984
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: happened after the combine. Everybody killed the guy. Everybody everybody's

1985
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 1: sports killed the guy. Right. You know he's gonna be

1986
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:20,200
Speaker 1: drafted in the top fifty and play ten years. I

1987
01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 1: don't I think he'll go between like fifty and seventy five. Sure,

1988
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch him play. He's really good. You

1989
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: watch play gets Ohio State. Those guys we all have

1990
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 1: jacked up the board. Yeah, he's not getting past those.

1991
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys aren't getting past him. He's gonna

1992
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 1: drop forty or fifty picks because of his workout. Yeah,

1993
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen. It's scout and again it's the numbers everything.

1994
01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,759
Speaker 1: Scouts can't get that out of their head. Him laboring

1995
01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:43,600
Speaker 1: around and you know, not doing everything you're supposed to do.

1996
01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 1: Would Billy Price surprise here? Yeah, a little bit, because

1997
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:51,280
Speaker 1: he's got the peck injury, you know, and all it

1998
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,639
Speaker 1: just tapes that good. I mean I worry about him.

1999
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 1: I do worry about him a little bit. Like I say,

2000
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 1: I just I'm trying to I'm rap in my brain.

2001
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we've If Crosby goes in the first, is

2002
01:39:02,800 --> 01:39:04,840
Speaker 1: that a surprise to you? Yeah, it would be. It

2003
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: would be. But this tack this this draft is so

2004
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 1: tackle for Yeah, especially if you're gonna play Connor Williams

2005
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: at guard, because that's McGlinchey. And that's what I mean,

2006
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: and that, like I know, I used to be forever

2007
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 1: there were four or five tackles. You could just plug

2008
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,439
Speaker 1: him in, let's go. I can't do that. I don't

2009
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 1: think it's as crazy as y'all do that. Calton Miller

2010
01:39:22,479 --> 01:39:24,080
Speaker 1: will go in the first round because they're just no

2011
01:39:25,479 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 1: I hear it anybody else? All right, let me ask

2012
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: you guys this question. I'm gonna ask you this question.

2013
01:39:31,120 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: Give me this guy's underrated? Well you know mine? No?

2014
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: Should I say his name of fifteenth time? James Daniels Okay, okay,

2015
01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop, um, well, ranger, what are we talking about? Yeah,

2016
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,080
Speaker 1: this guy's underrated. This guy is a player that you

2017
01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 1: know when at the end of the day, it's he's

2018
01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna be three, four or five years from now. He's

2019
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 1: going to be the guy. Like, man, we did not

2020
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,200
Speaker 1: talk about him enough. I just sort of crap thought

2021
01:40:00,240 --> 01:40:02,640
Speaker 1: him at the start of the show. But Minka Fitzpatrick,

2022
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 1: like people people talk about him like nobody knows what

2023
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 1: to do with him. He's fallen down the board. Like

2024
01:40:08,320 --> 01:40:10,200
Speaker 1: it's not crazy to think he's the best dB in

2025
01:40:10,280 --> 01:40:12,599
Speaker 1: this draft and people aren't talking about him that way. Yeah,

2026
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,920
Speaker 1: Duke Asia four wake forestda he's a better player than

2027
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,240
Speaker 1: Marcus d Okay, how is the tape for you initially

2028
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: on him? What did you think about the tape with him?

2029
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 1: The tape kind of goes up and down, depending on

2030
01:40:22,520 --> 01:40:25,360
Speaker 1: the game. But I just think there's enough there that

2031
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,679
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a ten year NFL career.

2032
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:29,599
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a starting defensive end and he's gonna

2033
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:34,160
Speaker 1: help a football team. But this is kind of how

2034
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,519
Speaker 1: it works, and it drives me a little bit bonkers.

2035
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,240
Speaker 1: Asia four is a good player on tape. I don't

2036
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: know if he ever worked out before the combine or

2037
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:45,160
Speaker 1: Combine or Pro Day. Yeah, but Davenport, who goes to

2038
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:47,639
Speaker 1: a small school, just beats up on small school guys

2039
01:40:47,720 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 1: like he should, and he may go top fifteen. Asia

2040
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 1: four is going to go fifty five, right, and I

2041
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have the better career. He's got some

2042
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,400
Speaker 1: edge rush ability though you watch him, I mean he

2043
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:03,120
Speaker 1: can dip, get around the corner, getting it gets real small?

2044
01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: Can you carry on Johnson's underrated? Okay it depends on when.

2045
01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this question.

2046
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,040
Speaker 1: Brian and Dan talk about him like you should go

2047
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. Okay, how about this. Then there's

2048
01:41:16,040 --> 01:41:18,559
Speaker 1: my next question. You guys need a real running back

2049
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,639
Speaker 1: in the third round. Who's your guy? Hines? Real real

2050
01:41:22,760 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 1: running back? You need a real running back Hines are Wadley,

2051
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,240
Speaker 1: is it too high to take Kelly there? I'd take

2052
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:34,080
Speaker 1: Kelly there, Tennessee Kelly right, Yeah, I actually Iowa Wadley,

2053
01:41:34,479 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 1: I would I would take too. I love Widley, I

2054
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:40,599
Speaker 1: know you do. I really do, least always like him

2055
01:41:40,640 --> 01:41:42,680
Speaker 1: and Josie Joel. I mean, I think what I was

2056
01:41:42,680 --> 01:41:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna put it. I would watch what they're gonna put in.

2057
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna put in a corner in. They're gonna put

2058
01:41:46,360 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: a linebacker in, they gonna put a running back in.

2059
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:51,240
Speaker 1: That's what Iowa does. They like they churn out, dude,

2060
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna put a center in. They go eight and

2061
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: four every three years, they make a run at the

2062
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,439
Speaker 1: Big Ten title. Yeah that's I mean, that's it's like

2063
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,800
Speaker 1: the sun rising and setting. They're gonna have two guys

2064
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 1: go in the first round. Yeah, and four guys go

2065
01:42:03,479 --> 01:42:05,679
Speaker 1: in the first three rounds. Well, no, no, no, Wadley

2066
01:42:05,680 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: will probably go in the fourth. Rod Maybe this is

2067
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:08,960
Speaker 1: Riley might be the best one of that. I mean,

2068
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: when when the running backs of those third round running

2069
01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:14,679
Speaker 1: backs were talking about call this recency bias because Alvin

2070
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 1: Kamara was just offensive rookie of the Year, but John

2071
01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: Kelly is a tough Oh John Kelly, Yeah, exactly, catch

2072
01:42:20,960 --> 01:42:23,560
Speaker 1: them catch the ball? Sure can. I like that. I

2073
01:42:23,600 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: would draft that guy. It's just like, Okay, Kelly, two

2074
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 1: tough guys, Kelly Galden. You know we're talking about two

2075
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,800
Speaker 1: really tough guys that somebody's gonna get. I wish, I

2076
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:35,680
Speaker 1: wish the Cowboys. I almost wish the Cowboys needed are

2077
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: running back better, like more than they do, because it

2078
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:40,519
Speaker 1: would be do they do they? I mean when you

2079
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:44,080
Speaker 1: think about Will Okay, only got two on the ross. Yeah,

2080
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:46,320
Speaker 1: even you even made the boy today about Rod Smith.

2081
01:42:46,479 --> 01:42:49,479
Speaker 1: But okay, if this remember remember how much fun twenty

2082
01:42:49,560 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: fifteen was when we were arguing about Jeff's boy Duke. Yeah,

2083
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 1: and Ke's a good player in Cleveland, Tevin Coleman, it

2084
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 1: would be so much guy, if the Cowboys needed a

2085
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: feature back right now, they would have like a well,

2086
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,720
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd be arguing about Darius Geist right now,

2087
01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:10,920
Speaker 1: but they don't. Philadelphia, tra Quan Smith is underrated day

2088
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:14,760
Speaker 1: day three, Day three, which is different than day one two.

2089
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: So Okaron quos underrated. M Oh, you're naming all Oklahoma guys. Now,

2090
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,519
Speaker 1: I didn't name all I named and Oklahoma. I wonder

2091
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 1: why Oklahoma guys and Oklahoma guy, A man is not

2092
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: paying attention to us. Oh, there she is, and Oklahoma

2093
01:43:30,280 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 1: guy and he's underrated. What round does Shakim Griffin go?

2094
01:43:35,160 --> 01:43:37,600
Speaker 1: I bet he sneaks into the end of two. I

2095
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 1: think y'all are crazy. Which this plays right back into

2096
01:43:41,720 --> 01:43:43,760
Speaker 1: what we'll say three. I'm gonna officially say three. What

2097
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:46,560
Speaker 1: like scouts can't get over certain things right, right, So

2098
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 1: no matter what you see on tape, you talk to

2099
01:43:49,320 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 1: these scouts and they will like, well, he's got one hand,

2100
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: Brian exactly. I mean that they play about the guy

2101
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: he does that, and then they're gonna be like, he's

2102
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:01,479
Speaker 1: missing a left hand. Let's say, third round, fourth round,

2103
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 1: fourth yesterday, and that mock that we did he with

2104
01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 1: eighty six in Kansas City, that's borderline fourth, right, it's

2105
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,160
Speaker 1: getting close. Maybe it's towards the three. I'll tell you what.

2106
01:44:12,840 --> 01:44:15,320
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna get a held of football team. You've been

2107
01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:18,880
Speaker 1: saying that since Oh I do. I just believe. I

2108
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 1: believe in him. I'm not hating hippo. Very that's a

2109
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:26,640
Speaker 1: good one. That is a very good one. I think

2110
01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 1: that's Doug Free I think it's an athletic Doug Free Mirrow.

2111
01:44:29,960 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Doug Free came in and he was kind of like,

2112
01:44:32,200 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: you know, position all that this is what this kid

2113
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 1: can do. They got a massive guy on the right side,

2114
01:44:36,760 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 1: and they got a really light athletic guy on the left.

2115
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: Where do you think Shack Griffin goes I got in

2116
01:44:41,360 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 1: the third round? I have him in the fourth and

2117
01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:45,519
Speaker 1: the third. I didn't ask him where you had him?

2118
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:48,120
Speaker 1: Oh what team he goes to? Just where where do

2119
01:44:48,200 --> 01:44:50,160
Speaker 1: you think he's actually when do you think he's gonna go?

2120
01:44:50,760 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: More like third round? Whatever? I can give you a number.

2121
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: Not you're great, No, you're the team. I'm gonna give

2122
01:44:58,280 --> 01:44:59,720
Speaker 1: you a team. I'll give you a team. He's gonna

2123
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: go to Where's where's my bunch in Seattle? They don't

2124
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: have a third round pick. Let's talk second No, no, no,

2125
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:08,639
Speaker 1: here we go, Here we go here. I got your team.

2126
01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:10,519
Speaker 1: I got your team right here, I got your team.

2127
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 1: He's gonna go to Atlanta at ninety Okay, let me

2128
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: ask you this a linebacker group. You're the linebacker guys

2129
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:21,000
Speaker 1: are gonna run that team. We'll get ready. We're playing

2130
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 1: that bunch again next year. Yeah. One sat Griffin. You okay,

2131
01:45:25,800 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: he's not because he's got in the fourth round. I'm

2132
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,240
Speaker 1: not okay with that. I'm sorry. I hate Why do

2133
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:32,519
Speaker 1: you hate Shatt Griffin? I hate to be the dasher

2134
01:45:32,600 --> 01:45:35,719
Speaker 1: of dreams. I just I just if I'm a great production,

2135
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: great athlete can cover, I'm on tackle, I'm I'm mentally weak.

2136
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,680
Speaker 1: That's why, like, I just I want a guy that

2137
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 1: I'm leaning on to be okay of of those like okay,

2138
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 1: of the linebackers that we think are kind of bad,

2139
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:56,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't a one handed chat Griffin be better than some

2140
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,880
Speaker 1: of those guys we've talked about, some those linebackers that

2141
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:02,639
Speaker 1: we would keep Mitch possible. You know, y'all, are y'all

2142
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,360
Speaker 1: are calling me a hater? No, no, nobody's calling you

2143
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: a hat I am. I am you taking check Griffin over,

2144
01:46:08,360 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard. Let me check my board, because the board

2145
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 1: will never lie to you. If the board never lies,

2146
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 1: the board will absolutely never lie to you. Board set

2147
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:20,080
Speaker 1: you free line. But this isn't even my board. I

2148
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 1: have too many people's boards in front of me right

2149
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: now because I'm doing a project. I'll let you know

2150
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 1: in a minute. I need to find my board. I

2151
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: have him over Leonard. How about Fred Warner? I have

2152
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: him over Fred Warner from b YU, So you're comfortable

2153
01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:36,080
Speaker 1: with that. I just am a fan of the player.

2154
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:40,120
Speaker 1: I just I don't think you could have him behind Leonard?

2155
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: All right, so you would go Leonard, Jeff, I have

2156
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 1: him behind Warner. But I'm about to move Warner because

2157
01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: that's wrong. That's the beauty of a board. Warner just

2158
01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 1: got motion. If you're not actually making the picks, Yeah,

2159
01:46:53,600 --> 01:46:56,000
Speaker 1: Warner just got moved down. I am sorry. I just

2160
01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:00,679
Speaker 1: I those top top one hundred picks are just so important. Yeah,

2161
01:47:00,680 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 1: I bet you're gonna get a guy that can play.

2162
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 1: I know you are, but can play well. I think

2163
01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna play well. I don't he don't. Don't deny

2164
01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:09,960
Speaker 1: that kid. You have to you don't have to put

2165
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: any limitations on what he can do. I think football,

2166
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: go get it. That's my limitations. What about what if

2167
01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 1: you if you need a ride to the plane, I'll

2168
01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 1: get you to the plane too. If I think if

2169
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Jalen's on your roster, he fits just fine. Yeah, if

2170
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,960
Speaker 1: you need to compliment Jalen, so it's fine between the

2171
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 1: two of them. Will have one complete linebacker. Right, that's awesome.

2172
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,280
Speaker 1: You picked one of them at thirty four. Yeah, I'm

2173
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: trying to get the other one at eighty one. They

2174
01:47:35,320 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 1: they picked him at thirty four. Why or why not

2175
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 1: on the part of the company. Here we go, I'm

2176
01:47:40,479 --> 01:47:43,840
Speaker 1: a company man. Why or why not? On Arden? Key? Okay,

2177
01:47:44,160 --> 01:47:46,360
Speaker 1: can I do why not? No? Because that's what I'm

2178
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,120
Speaker 1: gonna say. Okay, go ahead. I just we just did this.

2179
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,560
Speaker 1: We just got out. We're actually we're still on this

2180
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: train because Randy Gregory's expected to apply for reinstatement. I

2181
01:47:55,880 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 1: just no, just no. You don't want is it You

2182
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 1: don't want to do with it as a journalist, or

2183
01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:02,879
Speaker 1: you don't want to deal with it as well. Selfishly,

2184
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with it, Key, because you've

2185
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 1: seen him. I mean, that was our guy. Selfishly, I

2186
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:08,400
Speaker 1: don't want to deal with it in the sense of

2187
01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 1: like the story, but just draft a guy you can

2188
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:13,840
Speaker 1: count on to be there. How much I had this

2189
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,360
Speaker 1: conversation with somebody just off the record, off the air

2190
01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,280
Speaker 1: the other day, like how much better would this team

2191
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 1: be right now if Randy Gregory had played forty or

2192
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,760
Speaker 1: more games in his career, Like if he had been

2193
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:28,680
Speaker 1: a meaningful part of all thy eight games, like how

2194
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 1: much better would they be? They'd probably be a lot better, yea.

2195
01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:34,479
Speaker 1: And instead it's just this gaping hole where they got nothing.

2196
01:48:34,720 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: What if they do that again? Let that be somebody

2197
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: else's gamble. Man. I'm not I'm not down. So you're

2198
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 1: saying you're you're saying they should learn their lesson from

2199
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:47,600
Speaker 1: Art and Key, because I if at eighty one you

2200
01:48:47,640 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: could maybe talk me into it, I start. I'm definitely

2201
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: not doing it at fifty or definitely not ninety. I

2202
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 1: think eighty one's too early for the player on tape.

2203
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 1: Which tape did you watch last year? Last year? To

2204
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:00,360
Speaker 1: watch the year before that? If you're willing, well, if

2205
01:49:00,360 --> 01:49:03,320
Speaker 1: you do Landry, Landry going to do it for Landry? No, no, no,

2206
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: because Harold Landry, from all I know, is a decent

2207
01:49:06,520 --> 01:49:09,120
Speaker 1: character guy who is going out there and trying to

2208
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:11,080
Speaker 1: play football. Arden Key is a guy who you have

2209
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,400
Speaker 1: character questions about, you have Randy Gregory questions about, and

2210
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,920
Speaker 1: then in the job interview for his career to save

2211
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,160
Speaker 1: his career, he looked fat, out of shape and disinterested. Go.

2212
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:22,080
Speaker 1: I mean all of that's true. If you get to

2213
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: the sixth round, Dave that we'll talk to you. How

2214
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 1: dare you? That's not that Art? He couldn't play last year,

2215
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:30,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't a good football player. Two years ago, he

2216
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 1: was one of the best pass rushers in LSU history. Yeah,

2217
01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm just saying they had some good defensive ends. Yeah,

2218
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:37,800
Speaker 1: they have. And this year was his job interview and

2219
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:40,000
Speaker 1: he was fat. Well he came. Yeah, the whole thing.

2220
01:49:40,040 --> 01:49:42,200
Speaker 1: I thought when he went away on the sabbatical that

2221
01:49:42,280 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 1: he was going to come back ready to play, and

2222
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:45,240
Speaker 1: he was. I don't want to spend a top one

2223
01:49:45,320 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 1: hundred pick on a guy that needs a sabbatical, yet

2224
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: the sabbatical works. I'd move you up around a guy

2225
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 1: who's had a sabbatical. That's like getting married. But that's

2226
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:59,600
Speaker 1: a life shift. He's going to Cincinnati. I don't. I

2227
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,719
Speaker 1: just don't Cincinnatty. If Art and Key got it together

2228
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: over that offseason, he'd have been in shape. No, it's

2229
01:50:06,439 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 1: and and he wouldn't literally anybody else that he played

2230
01:50:08,960 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 1: his way into shape last Yeah, that's awful. I'm not

2231
01:50:11,720 --> 01:50:15,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that ain't arkag No, that's not the

2232
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: right kind of guy. And that's Garrett. If Garrett. Hopefully

2233
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 1: Garrett's in that draft room on Friday or Saturday, being like,

2234
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,200
Speaker 1: didn't we just do this? Might taking crazy? But Gregory

2235
01:50:26,360 --> 01:50:28,960
Speaker 1: was good. No, and Randy Gregory's last on the phone

2236
01:50:29,000 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 1: conversation that Garrett was coach. You're not gonna have to

2237
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 1: worry about me. I think Garrett had to be convinced

2238
01:50:33,640 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: to take you know. And and let's be honest, they

2239
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:39,040
Speaker 1: brought Arton Key and who was here we'd normally see

2240
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,920
Speaker 1: Galvin Hill. Calvin Hill was here having lunch with arden Key,

2241
01:50:43,080 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 1: so mart Man, so we'll see what figure out. Okay,

2242
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 1: we're down to our last few minutes here coming out

2243
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:56,240
Speaker 1: of this draft. You're gonna be happy or disappointed when

2244
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 1: you when when it's all said and done, when you

2245
01:50:58,280 --> 01:50:59,760
Speaker 1: walk out of here, are you gonna be happy or

2246
01:50:59,800 --> 01:51:02,200
Speaker 1: you to be disappointed when we do the final when

2247
01:51:02,200 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 1: the final picks made on Saturday. Atter. Better of fact, folks,

2248
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,640
Speaker 1: we're on with Dallas Cowboys dot Com and all the

2249
01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: platforms on with the Window five three with Jeff and

2250
01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,679
Speaker 1: Kat as well, so we're we'll all be talking about

2251
01:51:14,720 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 1: this like we are now. But when you come out

2252
01:51:16,920 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: of here on Saturday evening, how are you going to

2253
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: feel about this draft. I think I'll be disappointed. I

2254
01:51:23,920 --> 01:51:27,880
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be satisfied. I'm not gonna be fist

2255
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:31,320
Speaker 1: pumping and back flipping. But I'm not gonna be upset either,

2256
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:33,920
Speaker 1: because you've got too many picks to where they're not

2257
01:51:33,960 --> 01:51:36,599
Speaker 1: going to do something you like. You know, they're even

2258
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 1: and I don't expect them to make all ten, but

2259
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,639
Speaker 1: they'll probably make seven or eight. And if you add

2260
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 1: seven or eight guys to your team in one weekend,

2261
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna like a few of them, you know, yeah,

2262
01:51:45,720 --> 01:51:48,360
Speaker 1: you know you probably. I probably won't be freaking out.

2263
01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 1: I've already resigned myself to the thought that I'm not

2264
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna love the first round pick for one reason or another.

2265
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:58,919
Speaker 1: I just hope it's I hope it's useful, like defensive

2266
01:51:58,960 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 1: tackle line. You make your team better doing that. Maybe

2267
01:52:02,240 --> 01:52:04,559
Speaker 1: it's not a guy who's gonna contend for defensive Rookie

2268
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:07,599
Speaker 1: of the Year. Maybe we get our guy James Daniels,

2269
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:12,320
Speaker 1: which that would be exciting, But I don't think I'm

2270
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna come out of it just like, yeah, this is amazing.

2271
01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:18,200
Speaker 1: But I think it'll be somewhere in between. You can't

2272
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: screw up. When you're making this many picks, you can't

2273
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Speaker 1: screw them all up, not with their track record over

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Speaker 1: the last five or six years. Jeffrey, I'm a I'm

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01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:28,720
Speaker 1: a glass half empty guy. I assume it's gonna go

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01:52:28,800 --> 01:52:30,200
Speaker 1: in a way that I hate it, so that if

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Speaker 1: it doesn't, I can be really really happy. And if

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01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 1: it does, that's cool. I expected that just looking at

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Speaker 1: their visits and listening to it. I just I'm worried

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01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 1: that what they're gonna do in the first round is

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01:52:39,920 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna pick a linebacker, and I'm gonna think it's

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01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 1: a reach, and I'm gonna want to be wrong, but

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01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,519
Speaker 1: that's going to be what I'm going to think when

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01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:49,719
Speaker 1: the first round is over. So that's my biggest worry

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01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:51,800
Speaker 1: is that they're gonna take a linebacker in the first round.

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01:52:51,840 --> 01:52:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like the pick, and I'm just gonna

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01:52:54,400 --> 01:52:57,519
Speaker 1: hope that I did a bad job about Let me go,

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01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,880
Speaker 1: let me go hypothetical here real quick. Let's let's say

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01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:03,600
Speaker 1: that they do take the linebacker and you don't love it,

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01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,840
Speaker 1: but it's it feels a need. What if you just

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01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:11,240
Speaker 1: absolutely love pick fifty. Let's say it's let's say it's Michael.

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01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:13,760
Speaker 1: Let's say it's Michael Gallo. I'll be right back. All right,

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01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, and that's the point. You got

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01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:18,639
Speaker 1: enough picks and there's enough good players in this draft

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01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: that we get Corbett at eighty one. Sure if you

2296
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:24,960
Speaker 1: want them all right back above us here at the

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01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:27,680
Speaker 1: at the bar, here Todd Archer is doing a mock

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01:53:27,800 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 1: draft for ESPN, and he just picked Layton Vanderish. Shocking,

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01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 1: He's shocking. I'm six four, two fifty six and if

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01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,000
Speaker 1: you are two hundred and five pounds, he'll run me over.

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01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:41,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, so Archer, Archer, Yeah, it's just something here,

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01:53:42,320 --> 01:53:44,360
Speaker 1: I got all these TVs and who did you guys

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01:53:44,360 --> 01:53:48,880
Speaker 1: are talking? He picked Tacco showing all the missed tackles. Yeah,

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01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 1: well here's uh again, uh Todd Archer from ESPN Dallas.

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01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:57,680
Speaker 1: Uh he's or ESPN excuse me, picked Layton Vanderish. So

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01:53:57,960 --> 01:54:00,559
Speaker 1: here we go with that. So this more than any year,

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01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, you're it's just it's kind of nondescript, like

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01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: you're not picking at the top, you're not picking at

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01:54:06,040 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 1: the very back. You're right there, no man's land. So

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01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:11,519
Speaker 1: what are the odds? I mean, the way the draft

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01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 1: work says, You're probably not going to be thrilled about

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01:54:14,040 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys you get, because right in

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01:54:16,040 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 1: the middle, you wide receiver, I'll be happy. You're not

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01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,519
Speaker 1: getting that back of the round value where it's like

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01:54:21,560 --> 01:54:23,640
Speaker 1: the best second round pick, and you're not getting the

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01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 1: top of the round, so you're just kind of you're

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01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:29,200
Speaker 1: getting the leftovers. So you know, if they pick a

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01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:32,000
Speaker 1: linebacker at nineteen, it's not going to excite anybody, but

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01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: I think it is useful they need it. If they

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01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,240
Speaker 1: draft a wide receiver, I don't think it's gonna be

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01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,240
Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna contend for Rookie of the Year,

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01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 1: but I think it'll be useful. That's I think I'm

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01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:44,640
Speaker 1: gonna come out of this draft saying, I'm not rushing

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01:54:44,680 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 1: out to buy any of these guys jerseys, but I

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01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: think they made their team better. Like that's how I

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01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,200
Speaker 1: feel like I'm gonna feel. We'll talk about that today

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01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: and as we get close this down. Jerry thought that

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01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: his team was better. Yeah, that his team was better

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01:54:57,680 --> 01:55:00,080
Speaker 1: after which the end of the season, he said, you

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01:55:00,120 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 1: think crazy. He thinks they're better because they have clarity

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01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 1: about what they need to do, which bates. So He's

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01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: says the clarity meant that they know. They don't have

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01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,120
Speaker 1: said you think we're better, because we have clarity, that

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01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: we know where we're bad. That's basically what he says.

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01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 1: They're not better today. Obviously they're they're clearly worse. But

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Speaker 1: it also doesn't matter because you don't play. They're not

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01:55:19,800 --> 01:55:22,000
Speaker 1: for a while. The draft is not done yet. They're

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01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:25,320
Speaker 1: not better the draft. It matters by Sunday. By Sunday afternoon,

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01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 1: when the priority free agent class is done signing, they'll

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01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:31,480
Speaker 1: be That's what you need to be better. They'll be

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01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:35,280
Speaker 1: just as good, if not better. I think that's fair.

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01:55:35,800 --> 01:55:37,840
Speaker 1: Are they closer to the Eagles? Or is there's still

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01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 1: this cavern we think super Bowl too? Is somebody finally

2344
01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna win the NFC East twice in or own? Yeah? Yeah,

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01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't. Where's the talent? Where's the relations to the Eagles?

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01:55:49,160 --> 01:55:51,120
Speaker 1: I don't. Eagles don't have a big hole. They don't

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01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 1: have a big hole on the roster. I know. I

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01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:55,600
Speaker 1: just I don't think of the NFL that way like

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: the Eagle. The Eagles went from seven to nine or

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01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, and the Cowboys were thirteen three the year

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01:56:01,440 --> 01:56:04,560
Speaker 1: before that, like it's there by Sunday. I think the

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01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 1: Eagles will be the better team. But I don't look

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01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 1: at it as like this cavernous gap that nobody can

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01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 1: hope to overcome. If they add guys like guy, oh God,

2355
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:16,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna get to make luxury picks and then and

2356
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: sometimes players fall right in your lap. That's what happens

2357
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,120
Speaker 1: when when you're winning the Super Bowl, absolutely right, and

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01:56:21,240 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be Connor Williams. He's gonna fall in their

2359
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:25,360
Speaker 1: lap and he's gonna take over for Jason Peters in

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01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 1: a year, and they're just gonna keep cruising better. Connor

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01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 1: Williams and Darius guys. The pick is going. I'm gonna

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01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:34,560
Speaker 1: stick with the guy I've been Rashaun Evans. I just

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01:56:34,680 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stick with it. Yeah, Calvin Ridley, Okay,

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01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna speaking into existence. Yeah, I'll stick with it.

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01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,520
Speaker 1: I've said it all along. They're gonna take Layton Vanderish. Yeah.

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01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:46,840
Speaker 1: I think so. We've been pretty consistent with that. I happened.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not thinking. I think Michael Gallup, I

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01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,120
Speaker 1: think you jumped onto that before that. I've jumped on

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01:56:52,200 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: that and you know what, I hope I'm wrong to

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01:56:54,000 --> 01:56:58,160
Speaker 1: be honest with you. Push push, Harold Landry. There's nothing

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01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 1: better than a good story of a guy overcome what

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01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 1: we think. Yeah, let's go Vanderish all right, guys, Hey,

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01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:05,000
Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for all your insight. I'm

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01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna thank everybody out here at Henry's Tavern. We had

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01:57:08,480 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 1: a great time. It's nice to the Draft show that

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Speaker 1: I couldn't think of a better spot for the Draft

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Speaker 1: Show to be at to start out. Hopefully time we

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Speaker 1: do this, it'll be time. Yeah, next time, it will

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Speaker 1: be time. Stop interrupting, Brian, Sorry, yeah again. At the

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Speaker 1: their sponsorship. I want to thank you again my guys here.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank Kim Garrison. I want to thank

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Speaker 1: all the fans. I want to thank you Nate Riley

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01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: and Evan from Miller. Appreciate all their things that they've

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Speaker 1: done for us. So next time we talk to you, guys,

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Speaker 1: we'll be on the clock here at the twenty eighteen

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01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 1: NFL Draft from the Star in Frisco. So look forward

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Speaker 1: to seeing you and then take care