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Speaker 1: Welcome back, y'all.

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Speaker 2: Wise as always, joined by Paul Pierce Danny Green.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, y'all.

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Speaker 3: Let's let's talk, let's top.

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Speaker 1: We got a good show. We got a good show

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Speaker 1: to get into today.

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Speaker 3: Jumping to the topic we were talking about right before

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Speaker 3: we got.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I wanted. I wanted to get into this because.

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Speaker 2: It was reported that Bron is ramping up and that

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Speaker 2: he would start he was cleared for full contact practice,

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Speaker 2: and that he was sent down to the side off

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Speaker 2: Bay Lakers, which is their G League affiliate. So yesterday

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Speaker 2: some guy in England was at one of the whacker

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Speaker 2: like tier like soccer leagues and he was just showing you,

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Speaker 2: like the stands with four hundred people.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's dope. They got all of these

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Speaker 1: teams all around London and I'm like, damn, Like, I

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Speaker 1: guess the.

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Speaker 2: Equivalent of that is like minor leagues here, you know,

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Speaker 2: like whether it be baseball and basketball. I was like,

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Speaker 2: let me look into how much like when is the

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Speaker 2: next South Bay Laker game? I wanted to go just

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Speaker 2: to go to a G League game, you know, spend

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Speaker 2: twenty dollars on a ticket. Some cracking jacks like whatever, bro,

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Speaker 2: I go on stub Hub, whatever the hell it was.

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Speaker 2: Friday's game is sold out. The game after that tickets

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Speaker 2: is going. The cheapest ticket is seventy five dollars. I

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Speaker 2: looked up the next Pacer game in Indiana. You get

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Speaker 2: tickets for twenty five. So this NBA games that are

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Speaker 2: a third cost of what it would cause to go

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Speaker 2: to the league affiliate.

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Speaker 1: Treating it like Lebron is actually on the team.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so after you did that research, you assume that

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Speaker 3: Lebron James Senior was actually gonna.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think he's not gonna play?

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Speaker 3: Because it's the G League. It's Lebron James Senior, like

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Speaker 3: the most arguably the greatest player.

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Speaker 1: Ever lad, So he's trying to get himself into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they don't. They don't practice.

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Speaker 3: No more league teams practicetice got you, That's why he's

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Speaker 3: an I've been assigned to a G League team. I

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Speaker 3: did spend time. I've also come back injury been a sign. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so you can practice with the teacher and get some

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Speaker 3: repsent because the other guys ain't.

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Speaker 1: Why do you think the tickets sold out.

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Speaker 3: People probably just like the Hennessy announcement, they might assume

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Speaker 3: like he was retiring, so they assumed that he might

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Speaker 3: be playing with the team. Lebron j See Brownie, Lebron

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Speaker 3: James Jr.

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Speaker 1: He's a G League player. He might be in it.

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Speaker 3: So it might be price might be going up because

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Speaker 3: of him, you know, Dalton connect.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're doing the father's son in.

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Speaker 2: The league history.

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Speaker 3: Even I look at the would you for a second

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Speaker 3: think that Lebron James was suit up on the South

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Speaker 5: I can't picture it. I mean, because this is my thing,

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Speaker 5: this would be my mindset. I'm coming back from injury.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to get injured down there again, like

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Speaker 5: the chance of re injury playing in the G League.

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Speaker 5: I'd rather get injured in the n b A.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know what I mean. But you practice

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Speaker 3: with you get some reps up.

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Speaker 4: But you can get that with the with the with

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Speaker 4: the bench.

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Speaker 1: Doing Celtics have a G League affiliate, I don't think.

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Speaker 6: They do, so you can't get you You can get

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Speaker 6: ten guys to practice with Lebron.

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Speaker 3: Right now where the Lakers. But Gabe Vincent being out.

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Speaker 3: They have they have Austin Reeves being out.

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Speaker 4: Okay, they got guys out.

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Speaker 3: Brouh and the guys that are playing that Luca ain't.

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Speaker 3: You only got fifteen on roster, Luca, all starters ain't playing.

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Speaker 1: The Celtics do have a GEN League affiliate.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's right, That's why I forgot it.

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Speaker 3: So the start five for sure ain't playing in practice.

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Speaker 3: Even your key reserves ain't playing in practice. So that's

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Speaker 3: like a good seven guys and then you have two

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Speaker 3: guys out you can get you're not getting ten even

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Speaker 3: though he's not playing like they're still doing. It's not

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Speaker 3: and I might even be scrimmage. It's just like drills,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, you know, stay hit.

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Speaker 2: What do you do when you're doing your rehab with

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Speaker 2: the G League A philies.

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Speaker 3: Obviously it's different for each group, but when I went

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Speaker 3: like things that you're doing preseason that you're no longer

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Speaker 3: doing anymore. Like they'll do stations, they'll do script, but

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Speaker 3: they're doing it a little faster paced. When the season

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Speaker 3: starts the regular TI team ain't doing. It's more so

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Speaker 3: film recovery, a little bit sweat up and down. But

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Speaker 3: you're not getting those type of reps of like you know.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do for so long.

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Speaker 3: You need to you need to get them up and

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Speaker 3: down the defensive, you know, slide three two vertical verticality

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Speaker 3: to our charge drills, you know what I'm saying, or

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Speaker 3: just regular fundamental drills that the guys said. The regular

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Speaker 3: the varsity team ain't doing that. The JV team you

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Speaker 3: get some reps in to do that.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to know why you don't think

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Speaker 2: Lebron would play.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand that.

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Speaker 3: I just be highly there's not a lot of things

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Speaker 3: that have shocked me in this world. You would be

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Speaker 3: see Lebron James and G League.

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Speaker 5: You ain't see nobody in his caliber come down to

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Speaker 5: the league play either, Like we ain't see Anthony Davis

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Speaker 5: do that.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen any All Star go down and play

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Speaker 3: in a G League game that was still a part

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Speaker 3: of it, that was still a part of the NBA Association,

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Speaker 3: like the association now if it's all sorry, that was

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Speaker 3: older and trying to get back in and playing them

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Speaker 3: on the league team. That's different. Currently all started still

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Speaker 3: in the Associated But if he takes.

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Speaker 2: The G league bus with them to the next city,

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Speaker 2: you don't I think they're playing the Rick wise city.

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Speaker 3: He don't do that with the two. Do you think

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Speaker 3: he's doing that with the league team?

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Speaker 1: Wait? Bro, didn't take the team bus?

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Speaker 3: He sometimes, but again, you see them on the road.

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Speaker 3: How many times you've seen him on the road with them?

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Speaker 2: Well, he hasn't been going on the road with the

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Speaker 2: Lakers since rehabbing the injury, but he's back to feeling

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Speaker 2: like himself again.

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Speaker 3: Bro. It's a very it's a very non mandatory thing

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Speaker 3: for him to where he wants to, like certain superstars,

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Speaker 3: and it was always the case. It was usually most

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Speaker 3: guys would want to go on the road, travel with

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Speaker 3: the team, or they made it in today's NBA. Bro,

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Speaker 3: if you want to travel cool the city you want

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Speaker 3: to go to, you can rehab there, but you want

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Speaker 3: to stay home, stay at home, Bro, Guys taking their

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Speaker 3: own playing bus, trade car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he still got his daughter home.

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Speaker 3: Makes sense that man, Yes, but he's doing what he

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Speaker 3: wants to do rightfully. So he ain't taking every sourci

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Speaker 3: of translation with the Lakers, let alone the G League team.

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Speaker 2: So I guess Danny Green is chalking the sold out

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Speaker 2: tickets to By the way, they're.

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Speaker 1: Playing in the u c l A like Health.

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Speaker 3: Sens, So they're playing some rivals.

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Speaker 2: They're playing Ripped City, So I guess Portland's G League affiliate.

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Speaker 1: And I looked it up. I've never heard of this

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Speaker 1: place that they're playing in.

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Speaker 3: No, I called one of the games last year, So

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Speaker 3: I think I played Portland last year when I called

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Speaker 3: one where it was at the facility, the practicility right

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Speaker 3: on the road, Yes, right there, So yeah, it was cool.

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Speaker 3: Brownie was supposed to play, so they had decent shows

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Speaker 3: his first year he didn't play.

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Speaker 1: People do you think we're in that?

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Speaker 3: It was a good amount of show like crowd showing up,

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Speaker 3: Like how what do.

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Speaker 1: You think the estimated like amount of people?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's the practice facility, so like they only

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Speaker 3: use one court and they have stands on one so

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Speaker 3: it's just like a two hundred people, Yeah, two hundred

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Speaker 3: maybe three hundred.

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Speaker 2: Those tickets could go quick. Now just imagine an intimate

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Speaker 2: setting like that. You get to watch arguably one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest player that ever played like, Bron might want

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Speaker 2: to give that gift.

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Speaker 1: To the thing.

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Speaker 3: Are you selling tickets?

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Speaker 5: He must a chance to see Beyonce in a five

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Speaker 5: thousand theater.

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Speaker 1: See, that's that's what would be.

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Speaker 3: It's probably an elite and invitational thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't public.

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Speaker 1: Bron might be that tapped in with the Lakers was

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Speaker 1: gonna cut from He's that tapped in with the SIUs.

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Speaker 1: He might want to just do this surprise pop up

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Speaker 1: pigs fly?

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Speaker 4: Are you going hold on the question? I won't be going.

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Speaker 1: Okay, tickets is sold out, plus is a Friday.

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Speaker 3: You're smarter.

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Speaker 4: And you're smarter.

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Speaker 3: You're smarter than that. I think.

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Speaker 2: I just thought it curious that they were sold out

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Speaker 2: in that all the rest of the tickets were marked

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but usually doesn't happen for that long. Usually might

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Speaker 1: Or Nick ninety nine went to the finals without pat ewing.

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Speaker 3: That was what's the name here too? Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Spree well can be blackout.

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Speaker 1: Year, Yes, so shocks out year lost to the Spurs.

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Speaker 2: Maybe there might be some ewing theory going on with

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Speaker 1: That says wild cos joker numbers, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Seems like they're playing free. Obviously, they're playing way better

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Speaker 1: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: When Tray sits, it's like their defense no longer has

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Speaker 1: It got us wondering, Like Trey Young has been on

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Speaker 3: For he's getting the rumor of conversation of do you

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Speaker 1: Lou with how they're playing, is it time to pull

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: I like that time that the talent it seems like

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Speaker 5: it's getting unlocked. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, that

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Speaker 5: But sometimes it's subtraction.

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Speaker 4: Addition by by subtraction, you know what I'm.

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Speaker 3: Saying, old trade right now because I feel like those

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Speaker 4: Twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven, he just turned turned twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, but he's been in the league for some times.

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Speaker 1: He's been in the league for at least eight years.

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Speaker 4: Three all those kids, you know, yeah, the early twenties.

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Speaker 1: Over the summer, and Trey Young put a tweet out

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Speaker 2: He's been angling for a deal for like a minute now,

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Speaker 1: So do they bring it? Let him come back and

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Speaker 3: It looks like we got a fresh start from both

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Speaker 3: And if Atlanta don't want to get an extension to somebody,

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Speaker 3: But I'm interested to see, like what spots you think

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Speaker 3: Trey will fit and that will like he would be

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Speaker 2: So it's tough because I think originally the two teams

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Speaker 2: already filled that need with Deanon Fox and the Magic

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Speaker 2: Yeah Orlando, who they didn't feel a point guard need.

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Speaker 3: Round gave up a lot of all of that five

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Speaker 2: So and the two teams that were like desperate for

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Speaker 1: And Bain is like signed for the next three years,

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Speaker 2: They immediately paid up danon Fox, so like they're committed

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Speaker 3: Orlando still doesn't really have a true point guards what

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Speaker 1: Though, they don't. You need to make the money.

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Speaker 3: Work be too much. They have to give up one

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Speaker 4: Give league like what's the true point guard?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's different in today's league, right. I think I

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Speaker 2: To me a real point guard to point guard somebody

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Speaker 1: Ninety four feet and treating you like you're nobody, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I mean the definitely that again, they don't. I

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Speaker 5: I think they need to figure out how it looks

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Speaker 4: Let's see how that looks again. And then he starts

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Speaker 5: If if I see a stunt in the development of

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Speaker 5: can't win a championship if trains your best player, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So you need one of these

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Speaker 1: Jalen Johnsons, he could be a superstar.

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Speaker 5: You know, if he can turn into a superstar and

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Speaker 5: be like, all right, we need to decrease some Tray's

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Speaker 1: A real something he's ever done in his whole career.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been shown to be a winning it has

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's never done that, he's never played a subordinate.

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Speaker 3: Some guys just some guys can't. We've seen it happen,

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Speaker 3: So I mean, let's let's fish around on who you think. Also,

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Speaker 3: there's other teams that need a real point guard, like Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Dallas definitely, but it seems like the firing of Nico

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Speaker 4: I'm rebuilding.

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Speaker 2: People were saying when fredv Vlee got hurt, but the

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Speaker 1: The money, it says, the money is too big, that Houston.

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Speaker 3: So you can rebuild with bringing in trade, though, can

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Speaker 3: you not? Because he's still twenty seven? Like if you

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Speaker 2: Rid of everybody incremental, It's like, what is disgustingly shaped roster.

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Speaker 3: But you get rid of after the roster gets prayed

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Speaker 3: and bringing some young pieces, it makes a.

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Speaker 2: Little bit more sense. You're not just playing like five

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Speaker 2: two guards. Yeah, at the same time. But I wanted

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Speaker 2: of get into the mindset of a tree young Like

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Speaker 2: he's at the home. He's at home watching the team

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Speaker 1: Is he rooting for them to do worse at first?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Like inside right, Like he's gotta be rooting against them

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Speaker 4: I hate to think that. I don't think.

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Speaker 5: I don't think of players hating against his team, but

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Speaker 5: I do feel like he's feeling the pressure of like, oh,

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Speaker 5: I have to fit in with that, what's going on

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Speaker 4: And how do I do that.

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Speaker 5: I can't come back and do the same things I've

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Speaker 1: How do I not fuck it up? Basically, what do

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Speaker 3: Think running right down there playing I can't go in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I hope he feels the pressure.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see him like he's a high

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Speaker 2: he sees the floor, like he's one of the best

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Speaker 2: passes in the NBA. Like, full stop, he's one of

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I hope he comes back

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Speaker 2: But before we get out of here, we kind of

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Speaker 1: How would you feel about a Ja Morant Trey Young Swap?

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Speaker 5: I love it for Ja Moran, Yeah, I love him

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Speaker 5: with if he.

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Speaker 1: Was fucking up with the Blicky's in Memphis. I mean

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Speaker 5: I sometimes it's not about the city.

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Speaker 4: It's just the same scenery. You know.

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Speaker 5: We know Atlanta got a good night life, nightlife for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't mess it up.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it could go one of two ways.

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Speaker 4: The need to go to it all exactly.

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Speaker 3: I think because he's lacking that in Memphis, he's not

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Speaker 3: all right, cool, Like I got I can go. I

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Speaker 3: I don't even go out home as much. Like I

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Speaker 1: When I got to show some discretion at the Blue Flame.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let me say, grow up differently, you know what

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Speaker 3: I think Trey would because they probably need that more

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Speaker 3: aggressiveness in Memphis. Yeah, Trey with Jarons Jackson Junior and

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think the only problem is if Memphis moves on

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Speaker 3: So we'll see what tickets and you'll, I think you'll

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's fair because they look god off of right

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Speaker 2: Moving on, man, Paul, you were in. You were with

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Speaker 5: Man, talk to about what it was like, man, just

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00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 5: to see it lie Like, you watch it and you're like, oh,

447
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 5: you know, it's it's normal, thirty fifteen, twelve.

448
00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 4: But then when you actually watch it live, I.

449
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 5: Think that might have been my first time since he's

450
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 5: been in his prime, this MVP prime right now he's

451
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 5: in watching him live, gotcha, And to just watch how

452
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 5: much smarter he is than everybody in the court, how

453
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 5: much better he is. Like he's playing with kids and

454
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 5: these are NBA teams. You know what I'm saying. It's

455
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 5: like I have a twelve year old son. That's what

456
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 5: it looks like today. I can just score them that wheel. Yeah,

457
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 5: I mean, his footwork is incredible, his IQ, he understands

458
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 5: and it's not like he's going down give me the like,

459
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 5: He's not a ball.

460
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: Dominant within the Florida so much.

461
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 5: Within the Florida offense, nobody sets more screens than him,

462
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 5: nobody passes the ball more than him. But sometimes how

463
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 5: the ball ends up in his hand and he's quick

464
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:05,160
Speaker 5: to score with it and he makes quick decisions. It

465
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 5: was like it was like watching a master, a master

466
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 5: chess player watching this.

467
00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

468
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 2: I was watching the game with my girl and she

469
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 2: was like, oh, he's not in that good as shape.

470
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, did you see him take the ball.

471
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,719
Speaker 2: Off the off the radio and like he was Magic

472
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: Johnson beating everybody down the court. Finally, guys, I'm like, bro,

473
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: it was crazy. So the two starters went down very

474
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 2: early on in the game, Kim Johnson and bron and yeah,

475
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 2: Christian Brown went down, and I think it kind of

476
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: clicked to him, like with down two starters, I kind

477
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 2: of got to be a grass.

478
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: He dropped twenty five in the first quarter, which was he.

479
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 3: Just makes it look easy and said somehow his touch

480
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 3: just finds the net every time.

481
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,880
Speaker 4: And it's a back to back game.

482
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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the most impressive thing because I thought,

483
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 5: you know, I think the Clippers were like two and

484
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 5: a half point.

485
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

486
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 3: They were up at one point, right, he went up

487
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: in the second the first first half that was played well.

488
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 1: The threes.

489
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 2: The kid from University of Miami, Jordan Miller, I think

490
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: his name is.

491
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: He was incredible yesterday for the Clipper.

492
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, for the Clippers shooting. Yeah, he was knocking down shot.

493
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 1: I was like, he was amazing. The second quarter he

494
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: got crazy hot.

495
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: I think he made like three threes in that quarter alone,

496
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 2: and they just you know, it was it was. The

497
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 2: Clippers were up at halftime, and then the third quarter

498
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 2: the Nuggets beat them forty three to twenty two, and

499
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 2: that was kind of all she wrote.

500
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 3: Yo, shooting from the field, he just makes.

501
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: It eighteen of twenty three, fourteen of sixteen from the

502
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 2: foul line, could not miss it three and these threes

503
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 2: were just they weren't even touching the rim.

504
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 5: He's the best player in the league. Yeah, that's he's

505
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,439
Speaker 5: the best. I know, is the MVP. Yes, this is

506
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 5: the best player in the league.

507
00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: Like them.

508
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 2: This level of dominance from last night where Zubach and

509
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: people were giving me frying me on on threads because

510
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 2: I was like Zubach.

511
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: His matchup.

512
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody guard him better, like where it's like, oh,

513
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: it feels like is trying right now whenever batches on him.

514
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: But then he was just yesterday he took the match

515
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: up personally.

516
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 4: And another take to the wood shed.

517
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: It was crazy.

518
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 5: Another thing I want to say, he's very underrated defensively,

519
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 5: He's like, I know he's not he got great hands,

520
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: but he's always in I looked at He's always in

521
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 5: the right spot, like you know what I'm saying, Like

522
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 5: like if there's help to be there, he's there. He's talking.

523
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 5: You know, he may lay off some picks sometime and

524
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 5: give the guy a shot like the defense. Yeah, but

525
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,240
Speaker 5: he talks and he's always in the right spot.

526
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: There was a couple of first of all, again that

527
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 2: did defenses over performing expectations like a motherfucker right now.

528
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 3: There was a point the second defensive behind crazy.

529
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 2: There was a point yesterday where like they blitzed James

530
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: on the pick and roll with Kic, like as if

531
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: he was like Dwight Howard or Anthony Davis or something

532
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: and forced the turnover.

533
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, he was out there blitzing crazy.

534
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 4: He was out there.

535
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 5: Blitzing hardened yesterday, getting out there slidest feet. That's what

536
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 5: I was like, He's getting out there over his feet.

537
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: He's having he's having just an incredible, incredible year, which

538
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: is crazy say because he's had four incredibles, he's been

539
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: the VP before, and he's having a better year to start.

540
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: This is the best he's ever been.

541
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, the.

542
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 3: Best he started right now is the best year he's

543
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 3: ever seen in his career.

544
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Averages, the numbers, I think he's shooting seventy seventy.

545
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 4: Just the supercent. It's not the numbers.

546
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 3: No, shooting percent, he's the league assistant rebounds. Yeah, he's

547
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 3: playing last year's playing less minutes.

548
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 4: Twelve rebounds and ten assists. But he did that.

549
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: It was his best year.

550
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 3: Twenty eight look good last year. But look at the

551
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: look at the numbers.

552
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why they don't have his field field

553
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: goal percentage of here last year, but I promised it's similar.

554
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 4: It's similar.

555
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: Shooting forty one percent from three, he did that last year.

556
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 3: Shot high from last year twenty eight thirteen.

557
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 2: Like he's get shooting so well from from from the field, shooting.

558
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't even have it up. He's sixty

559
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 1: something from the field.

560
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 3: I think he's shooting like seventy eight percent from the.

561
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: What does it say for the season, we're at sixty

562
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Speaker 2: eight percent or no, no higher.

563
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: Than that, trustman, No, I was just.

564
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 4: Last year was a better year or on par with

565
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: the second?

566
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sixty eight point this year percent, he's shooting sixty

567
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 2: eight killing season the better year for the season. The

568
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 2: last six games has just been unreal.

569
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you ain't lie. He's shooting sixty eight. Yeah, he's killing.

570
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: And the Nuggets, they they look man to Tyler.

571
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: He had a good game plan because usually it works.

572
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 3: He's anytime he scored fifty, they've lost. They've been all four,

573
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 3: so so make him, make him beat but they just

574
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: don't have the crew to They don't have the crew.

575
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: Said, our plan was to we don't want to leave

576
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: any shooters.

577
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: Make him.

578
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna make him a score. He was like, I

579
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: didn't think he was gonna score fifty five.

580
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, but even then again, he scored fifty. They've been

581
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: there four, Yeah, they've lost every time.

582
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 4: He said, we're gonna give you.

583
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 2: Fifty anyway, Joker man, I know we've been doing the

584
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: Wemby watch. I think we got to start the Joker

585
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: watch because I feel like he's about to have the

586
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: best season of his life, which is crazy to say

587
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: for a guy who's already won multiple m vps. This

588
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: is the best he's ever played in his life. Last

589
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: year was the last year was up. This year is

590
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 2: even It's even crazier. Moving on to our next topic,

591
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: which I wanted to talk to you guys specifically because

592
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: you guys played on teams that actually won something and

593
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: played on teams where you guys were veteran presidents that

594
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: had to sort of impart some knowledge on some young guys.

595
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: And Draymond and Jimmy Butler, you know, after they got

596
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 2: smoked by OKC, they called out their teammates in the media,

597
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: in public particularly. I don't think they didn't say them

598
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: by name a starting lineup Creer, but I think people

599
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: got the context clues that it was the Kamingas and

600
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: the pajem Skis and the younger guys, saying that there

601
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: was some person quote personal agendas out there and a

602
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: lack of effort.

603
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: After that game, they bounced back.

604
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: Both of them didn't start both of them didn't start.

605
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 1: They bounced back.

606
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 2: Steph drops forty six, Jimmy has a great game, has

607
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: twenty eight. They just like down the stretch they played

608
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 2: some of the most inspiring, incredible basketball but.

609
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 3: Only played twelve minutes. That's wild.

610
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: Again, what I would ask y'all is like, you know,

611
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 2: Kaminga got his little deal, but he still wants I

612
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: don't think he wants to be right.

613
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: I think he wants to be somewhere else.

614
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: Pajemski is obviously, he's in his third year, so he's

615
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: about to be after this year eligible.

616
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: I think they also talked about because he made a

617
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: statement saying, you know, he wants to be better than Steph.

618
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my man Slater reported reported this out. He

619
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: or he was around his teammates and said that he

620
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: wants to be Steph or better than Steph, and his

621
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 2: teammates rolled their eyes. That was reported out by my

622
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: man Tony Slater. He's at ESPN now, used to be

623
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: at the Athletic and you know, he was just kind

624
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: of trying to kind of say that, like the older

625
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: guys kind of like sometimes feel like they're being warned

626
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 2: in by the attitudes.

627
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: That the younger guys bring to in terms of their mentality.

628
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 2: But what I would ask you, Paul, is like, when

629
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: is it a good time to take your issues public?

630
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 5: M Like similar to what Draymond is Yeah with uh,

631
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 5: well obviously if he's taking this.

632
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: And he was like, it was like a detail. We

633
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: just got into the like sort of the highlights. But

634
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: it was a long statement that he gave to the

635
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: media postgame about the lack of effort, the agendas, the

636
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: people got to get in the right headspace and this

637
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: is in championship quality and blah blah blah.

638
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure Draymond's had these conversations in practice with

639
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 5: them in the locker room with them, and it's just

640
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 5: when the frustration builds up, it's like sometimes it's necessary.

641
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 5: And I don't mind what Draymond did actually, because he's

642
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 5: a veteran, he's a champion in this league, he's well respected.

643
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: He can say stuff like that a certain people because

644
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 5: you know, he brings his hard hat every night and

645
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 5: that's been the identity of the Warriors since he's been there.

646
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 5: So I'm fine with him saying that on the young guys.

647
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 5: Maybe it'll put a battery in their back and knowing

648
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 5: that they're wasting a tremendous opportunity to go to practice

649
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: every day and watch Jimmy and watch stuff and him

650
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 5: how you know they have grown and how their work

651
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: ethic is and you know, maybe take something from them.

652
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 5: And when you see young guys not taking something from

653
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 5: the guys who've been there so long and became great

654
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 5: in this league, it's frustrating because you give them the blueprint,

655
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 5: like guys who gotta work. You see us, we're thirty six,

656
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 5: thirty seven years old, and we still work like this.

657
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 5: And when we see y'all not in here early, or

658
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 5: y'all not putting in the effort and we're still doing

659
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 5: this at this age, it could be frustrating and it

660
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 5: could come out in the media. And that's what I

661
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 5: kind of saw from Raymon.

662
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: I like to think I'm a patient guy. Yeah, but again,

663
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure, like what Paul just said, I'm sure he's

664
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: had this conversation with them prior, like even last year.

665
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 3: So some of those guys have been there last year.

666
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure he's had multiple conversations with them. But Draymond

667
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: don't seem like the guy to wait or be patient

668
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: as soon as shit ain't right, he's going to speak

669
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 3: up on it and let it be known. He's not

670
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: one to bite his tongue comedy.

671
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: Has been on the team for four years though.

672
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: For sure. But you know, like either way, yeah, regardless,

673
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 3: I don't give if it was four months. Sure, Draymond's

674
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: gonna say something, yeah, and as he should. He's supposed to.

675
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: He's one of the leaders, he's one of the vets

676
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: on that team. You know, Steph might say something, but

677
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 3: Steph's not the vocal what I'm saying. He goes on by

678
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: example by action. Draymond's gonna do both. But he's gonna

679
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 3: speak up and be, you know, the captain of the

680
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 3: team in a sense. So for me, I would think,

681
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 3: you know, I give it a couple of strikes and

682
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: see it's still early, twelve games in, but I let

683
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: him know behind closed doors a couple of times, and

684
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 3: then I'll go to coaches first. I think it would

685
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: be for me the absolute last resorts. I don't want

686
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 3: to call anybody out in the like in public, and

687
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 3: that's just how we've operated when I'm in San Antonio,

688
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 3: it's like we handle it behind closed doors. Now, if

689
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 3: the coaches don't say something, and I'm one of the

690
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: top I was never one of those guys. I was

691
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: one of the leaders at one point. Sure, But if

692
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: it don't change, then it's like, all right, maybe I'll

693
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: say something to media.

694
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: I want to ask you guys though, specifically, how do

695
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: you handle something when because everybody, like that's the thing

696
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: about professional sports, your like your salary is public, you

697
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, nobody knows what I'm getting

698
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: paid to do this.

699
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Your salary is public.

700
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: But that also means your teammates know that you got

701
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: a deal coming up, absolutely, and you.

702
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: Know that, like this guy is playing.

703
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: For it to do what you're making, what you're trying

704
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: to make, what you want to know, everything is going on.

705
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: So how do you manage that when it feels like,

706
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: you know, everybody wants their teammate to get paid, but

707
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: like we're all trying to win too.

708
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: It goes hand in hand. Everybody eats if we win.

709
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: If you play the right way and playing winning basketball

710
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 3: and not just about yourself an individual, but.

711
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: When you see somebody that's not fitting in within the team.

712
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 3: The way to go about it, okay, and you know,

713
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 3: life teach you if I can't help teach you.

714
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 5: It's easy to say, you know, when you're an older

715
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 5: veteran and you've made a lot of money and you

716
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: got a guy who's trying to feed he like, because

717
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 5: usually when you come in as a rookie, you don't

718
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 5: really think about winning. You're thinking about establishing yourself. You're

719
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 5: making a name for yourself and eventually getting a contract. Now,

720
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 5: once you get all of that, then you're like, all right,

721
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 5: it's time to win.

722
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: You know. That's usually the progression of young guys mind.

723
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: So I can see how Padjensky is like, man, I'm

724
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 5: trying to I'm trying to get my numbers. Hopefully we

725
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,439
Speaker 5: can win while I'm getting my numbers, but I still

726
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 5: want to give a good showing. But you know, and

727
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 5: there is an agenda with a lot of young guys,

728
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 5: whether you like it or not, and especially when you're

729
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 5: a guard of his caliber, and you know you may

730
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 5: not get two or three different paydays, you know, And

731
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 5: so I can I can kind of see that. And

732
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 5: they can't knock and I can't knock them forward.

733
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 4: Or nothing like that. But it's tough situation.

734
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: My only thing before we get out of here with

735
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: Kaminga specifically is that Gary Payton GP two was closing

736
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 2: that game against San Antonio. This guy made like three four,

737
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: five winning ass plays at the end of the game,

738
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 2: and he is half.

739
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: As talented as Johnathan Kminga. And the lesson there to

740
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: me is.

741
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: Like, if you played more like that, not only would

742
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: you have gotten paid, you wouldn't be pissed right now.

743
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 3: You know, but he would have played twelve minutes.

744
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: You know, everybody think they got the mama mentality.

745
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 3: That again, I can't knock the young fellow for wanting

746
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 3: to get to the bag. You know that system may

747
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: not be for him, yea, that place might not be

748
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: for him, but you know he's he's going in like

749
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: and as he should. And so its Pazemski. I want

750
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 3: to be the best, you know what I'm saying. And

751
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 3: I want to I feel I can do it. I

752
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 3: show that I can play at a certain level. Maybe

753
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: I could play it a different and only only lightful

754
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: Let him know another situation. Thank you a superstar. We're

755
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 3: gonna find out find out real quick as you can

756
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 3: end up being. You know, we've seen people quickly turn

757
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 3: out the league very fast, right change changing.

758
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 1: Headed day going tomorrow.

759
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's get into our favorite part of

760
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: the night man our Picks of the Night presented by

761
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: Prize Picks.

762
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: I like, I like what's on the.

763
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 2: Board here, guys, Spurs versus the Warriors, the rematch uh

764
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: when be down the stretch man making damn pull up

765
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: three thirty point double bro bodying people up at the basket.

766
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: There was this one defensive possession where he chased stuff

767
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 2: around two screens, passed them off, contested the shot at

768
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: the basket, grab the boards.

769
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy is everywhere, everywhere, everywhere incredible.

770
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: But we're talking about his points right now, So more

771
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: or less than twenty six and a half points?

772
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: Danny you up.

773
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: He's been on a pretty good tear right now. I

774
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: don't think gold State have his answer for him.

775
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: But he feels like figuring.

776
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: I think it goes both ways. It's a bad matchup

777
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 3: for the Spurs because they just can't chase like that

778
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: permoted with him and he has to leave the basket.

779
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 3: Makes him very vulnerable. Time he only had one block,

780
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 3: but I think he gets his points. I think he

781
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: is more than twenty six and a half. But yeah,

782
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: I like to think they get this win because we

783
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: lost of the night. But I said, if this is

784
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: one of the teams that will give Hi problems they

785
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: match up in the playoffs.

786
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it took a herculean effort from Curry for them

787
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 5: to win.

788
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, but Wemby has been up and down with the scoring.

789
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the last are you last.

790
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 4: Wave? And every time I wrote it, he was went less.

791
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: Gold State Also, even though Steph had forty six and

792
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 3: I don't see Jimmy hitting five, Jimmy hit five threes.

793
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: Moses Moody hit a bunch of threes. Guys, He's always wanted,

794
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 3: but he's a practice. How many you've seen him at

795
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 3: five thres in the game.

796
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: In the big spots, Jimmy's always gonna make those.

797
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 3: Ship man, it's an anomaly, usual time man. But like

798
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: regular sea, less less.

799
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: Than for Wemby, I'm going I'll go less than to

800
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: Draymond actually did a good job.

801
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: I think he was like two of eight.

802
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: He had eight turnovers against Draymond Green. He's looking at

803
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: one of them and learned from it.

804
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: He had eight turnovers.

805
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 2: But I always remember viewers that Danny Green got got

806
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: spurs silver and black in his blood.

807
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 3: Coming out of his and I would say less with people.

808
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: Steph Curry twenty five and a half points more or

809
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: less than.

810
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 3: I'll go more more again, it needs it, it's a

811
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: It's just a again. San Antonio was a bad matchup.

812
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 3: They can't chase and switch on the screen like those

813
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 3: pin downs. If Wenby has to run out on the floor.

814
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: The most important guy on the floor is usually Draymond

815
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 3: and Jimmy because not only are they quarterbacking, but they're

816
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 3: also set in the screen.

817
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

818
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: So if you're sagging off Jimmy who was hitting five

819
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 3: and they're setting screens and Steff's coming off, you're late

820
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 3: and steps all he needs is daylight.

821
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: You you sag off of Draymond and he's like, you

822
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna run to where Steph is and

823
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: nobody's gonna be able to help when I faster? Is

824
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 2: fucking freaking guy more or less for Steph?

825
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 4: I have to think they gotta have a better game

826
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 4: plan for Steph this time. Uh.

827
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 5: And as you get older, there performances conformed between So

828
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 5: I'm going.

829
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: Last less than I'm going more. I think Steph is

830
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: he's feeling it. Uh yeah, are we gonna do more.

831
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, we got a couple more. One more Fox and

832
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 3: jimm We got a couple up there.

833
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: Okay, let's do that. Then four and a half threes,

834
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: all right, and let's and we can just move on

835
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: after that.

836
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: Right.

837
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 3: You don't want to do Fox and Jimmy or even

838
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 3: Castle Moses. We could do one of the others. I

839
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 3: don't know about Hbing Horford, but.

840
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: No, we can do this the threes and then Fox.

841
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, more or less than four and a half

842
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: three for Steph Curry.

843
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more. He's taking fifteen. Yeah, he's sixteen.

844
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 4: I'm going more.

845
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,720
Speaker 3: He's getting fifteen.

846
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 1: I'm going more.

847
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: So that puts him at fifteen points. It's gonna put.

848
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,479
Speaker 5: Him over yea more and I got him at less,

849
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 5: so I'm going less.

850
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: Okay, Man last, but not least, Daron Fox twenty and

851
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: a half points more or less.

852
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 3: I think he's he's still trying to figure he's trying

853
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,760
Speaker 3: to he's playing to like fit in instead of playing

854
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: his game. Yeah, he's not as aggressive. I think it's

855
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: gonna take some times. I'm gonna go less for Fox

856
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 3: on this one.

857
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go more for Fox.

858
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: He had a slow he had a slow game the

859
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: first game.

860
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: I think he bounces back more than twenty and a half.

861
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 2: Those are our picks of the night, presented by Prize Picks.

862
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 2: Just wanted to do a quick Timberwolves check in. Man,

863
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: it feels like they're kind of riding under the radar

864
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: right now seven and four. They're on a three game

865
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: winning streak. They lost the very first game that and

866
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: came back, but you know, he there the next sort

867
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 2: of figured it out and is averaging twenty seven points

868
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: in twenty eight minutes. Randall is averaging twenty four. Jaden McDaniels,

869
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 2: it's averaging eighteen. He's been so much more aggressive hunting

870
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: get shots, especially when Ant was out. They've they've been

871
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: dealing with it with a few injuries. But you know

872
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: where do you I know where we thought we kind

873
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 2: of all had.

874
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: Them in the Western Conference pacing ord.

875
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: We had them like kind of in that middle pack,

876
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: not playing, but not in the top tier.

877
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 3: In top five, I think the top top sex.

878
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: You had him in the top two.

879
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 3: Definitely, top six.

880
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: I got him top four.

881
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they be top I think i'd say top.

882
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 4: Five, but I think they're going to be in the

883
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 4: top four.

884
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 3: Because before what is Underwalker? Like they had bodies. Yeah,

885
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 3: if they get any other injuries not I knew.

886
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 6: That Walker would hurt them though, like not having don't

887
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 6: have developed a young kid Arren Shan Jr.

888
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, or Dylingham, Dealingham, Dellingham and Terren Shan, both of them,

889
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 3: but they just haven't.

890
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: They're still looking pretty shaky when he's out there, to

891
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: be honest, he's a tiny guy, gets lost on defense.

892
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 3: Do we think they're getting back to the Western Conference

893
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: finals this season?

894
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to see that. It's hard for

895
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: me to see that.

896
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, look at it. Look at the West.

897
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 5: Who are your like, for sure team Denver?

898
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 4: Denver? Okay? See right, So.

899
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 6: Then they've had problems with yes.

900
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 5: And they're one of a few teams at the top

901
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 5: that's been together. Yeah, they've been together, like okay, see

902
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 5: and then whereas like I don't like if they give

903
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: a series, you can't say that. But who else Lakers?

904
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 5: I don't think that. You see they get to the

905
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 5: Lakers last year. I mean, so like, who else is

906
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 5: there in the Western Conference that they should fear outside

907
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 5: of Okay?

908
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 3: See, I think they should very much still fear Denver.

909
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 5: Well, they have respect for Denver, but they looking at different.

910
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 3: You look at Denver, it was a different team and

911
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,040
Speaker 3: the beat they be.

912
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: Them like four times last year.

913
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, not for every single season for nothing.

914
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,720
Speaker 4: No counting them Denver.

915
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 1: It's just something about Denver that they like playing them.

916
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: I'm not counting them out. I'm just gonna say I

917
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 3: don't see them at the Western Conference finals this year.

918
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 4: I think they if Denver has to play.

919
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 5: Okay Ce before the conference finals, they're going to walk

920
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 5: to the conference finals again.

921
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: This year is very different. I think even last year.

922
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 3: If Steph doesn't get hurt last year, that is a

923
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 3: different series. Yeah, they might not be in a West

924
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: conss this year. They got a match up with Golden State,

925
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: They're not going to if they got a match up.

926
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: I'm not picking.

927
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna They're a different team.

928
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: I'm not picking none of these old teams.

929
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 3: So I think Houston I think they should worry about

930
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: Denver and okay See for sure, but I just don't

931
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 3: believe them enough to work like I can sure so

932
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: they can be Old State or Lakers this year with

933
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: even though is not a big difference. He's a difference

934
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 3: because looking like you put the.

935
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 7: House against I think for me, my issue, if you

936
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 7: could even call it that, is that Conley is still

937
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 7: super important.

938
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: And he's old, yea.

939
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 3: They don't have enough.

940
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely starting to show his age where he's just not

941
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: as I'm not saying he's a bad defender now, he's

942
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: not as impactful as he's been in the past, and

943
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: so they're a diminished team.

944
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: They don't have enough scoring. You got you gotta you

945
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: gotta rely on to score like it's Julius and that's

946
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: going to score. And then outside that, you gotta have

947
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 3: consistent that Devincenzo Nasri because if you don't have them,

948
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:48,720
Speaker 3: those other teams are putting up numbers. Houston's put up numbers,

949
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: Lakers even put them numbers.

950
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 4: I gotta believe I still have one of the best

951
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: five players in the league.

952
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: For sure. It's not enough in the West. If it's

953
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 3: the East, I'll give you that, and.

954
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 4: The West and not enough.

955
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 5: Randos as solid as it gets random, I can count

956
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 5: him enough.

957
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 3: The West is very tough. Bro. Again, you look at Okay,

958
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: so you never stacked, but even.

959
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 5: An experience out there saying k D inexperience.

960
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 3: Katie's got enough experience. They got enough, They played.

961
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 4: One guys enough experience as she was older.

962
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 3: They went to seven Golds.

963
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 5: Do you understand them kids when them lights get brighter

964
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: and it's pressure in a playoff series?

965
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 3: Different different Give me Minnesota has all of them are

966
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 3: the playoff.

967
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: Have done deep, all of the guys that get big minutes,

968
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: nas Reed Roody, back to back conference finals, Mike Conley

969
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: and playoff experience, Jadi McDaniels.

970
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 3: They've all like played, they all been all the Houston

971
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: been a playoffs experience to the.

972
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: State's older. I think there's something different about the content.

973
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: They got older, but they still got Moses Moody over there.

974
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: They got Buddy Hill, they got a bunch of Plethoro guys.

975
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 3: Zimski comingo, they got Plethoro guys.

976
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: Going to that series healthy. I'm probably Warriors, but I

977
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: understand that.

978
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 5: I just don't have no faith in the depth of

979
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 5: the Warriors. You've got Draymond calling out the young guys

980
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 5: and they getting vinced in. So you're saying in the playoffs,

981
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 5: saying they're gonna be ready.

982
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 3: By the I got more this year than I did

983
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: last year. Because they're actually gonna have to play cominga.

984
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: And is very a wild card.

985
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 3: And you got Jimmy and he's got another year on

986
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: his belt with them, you got Moses Moody. He was

987
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: able to give you buddy heel like they got pieces

988
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 3: that can give you. Now hold for is another stretch five.

989
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 3: But even what they had last year, I think they

990
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 3: were capable of beating Minnesota. I think getting to again.

991
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 4: Stay healthy, an older team, you know that's a factor.

992
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 3: Yes, that that's a big piece. So you're you're banking

993
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 3: on that somebody, those.

994
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 4: Two teams are healthy. I still got Minnesota.

995
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: Okay, before just quickly, before we get out of here,

996
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: who's your top four in the West right now?

997
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 5: My top four? I'm not even thinking about the records

998
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 5: right now? Yes, okay, yeah, Denver, Minnesota, and then I'll

999
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 5: probably have to throw. If I had to choose one,

1000
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 5: I would say Houston. I will put them in the

1001
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 5: top four.

1002
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: Top four, Yeah, it's okay, see Denver, Houston. It's not Minnesota.

1003
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: It's either between go ahead, yeah go and State of

1004
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 3: San Antonio, like.

1005
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: Oh, Sanatoria, No Lakers.

1006
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 3: Lakers, I say Santoni Lakers. On the outskirts, so gold

1007
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 3: State four. Then I got, I got Minnesota behind both

1008
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: of them. When it comes to trust Lakers and and

1009
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: San Antonio, I got, I got Minnesota behind both of them.

1010
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: Mine is just just off trust. Like you said, no records. Okay,

1011
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: see Denver, Golden State, Houston, for sure, those are my

1012
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: Those are my teams that I trust the most.

1013
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 2: How do you trust Houston because Houston because because Houston

1014
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: has an elite side of the ball with young, they

1015
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 2: have an elite unit. Their defensive unit is elite, an elite.

1016
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: I used to be an elite.

1017
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,760
Speaker 5: De sense last year, last year, before the season started,

1018
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 5: when you saw that Phoenix had Bradley Beal and book

1019
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 5: and what I didn't know?

1020
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 4: I didn't.

1021
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, but I might have thought they would.

1022
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 1: I might have thought they would be an elite. You know.

1023
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: I knew for sure they weren't gonna be. But but

1024
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 3: their offense, you know, I knew it was gonna work.

1025
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 4: You know, before the season started.

1026
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 8: Before the season they got I was like, come on,

1027
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 8: Phoenix is gone. I was like, don't do that season start?

1028
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 3: Clip from something, A lot of sentiment, a group chat,

1029
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: my clips from last year inside.

1030
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: The where the season started and started with horrible They

1031
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 4: was the trade you said this.

1032
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I never always the fact.

1033
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: On the next episode, we're gonna have both of our

1034
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 2: rankings documentation of it.

1035
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: For you again. Bro, look at that number, I think

1036
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 3: the top in the league in like points per possession

1037
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 3: some crazy like.

1038
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: Bro, they're killing it the offense again.

1039
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 4: I got them in my top five or four.

1040
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 2: The producer Chris remind remind us to pull up because

1041
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: this guy is he's calling us liars.

1042
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: We gotta show that. Okay, moving on man to okay,

1043
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: see which hu.

1044
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,919
Speaker 2: Hum twelve and one they're SGA is averaging thirty three points. Again,

1045
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,320
Speaker 2: They're doing this all without their second best player hasn't

1046
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: played a second this season. They're leading the NBA in

1047
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 2: point differential, meaning this smoking every single team.

1048
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to see who can get in these.

1049
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 3: Guys way they had on the bench.

1050
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,840
Speaker 1: On the bench, they didn't have all the guys.

1051
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 3: And lou Dort too of their best to of their

1052
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 3: best defenders still on the team out.

1053
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: Still a J Mitchell. By the way, where did they

1054
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: find this kid is a two way player?

1055
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: Now he's they sign him to a three year, eight

1056
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 3: billion dollar contract, a contract they got him on a

1057
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: cheap contract too, like a three four year deal for

1058
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: eight million dollars something that.

1059
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: He's like one of the top five or six players.

1060
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 2: I saw this somewhere like the track drives. Per game

1061
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 2: he's one of the top drivers. He's just taking it

1062
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 2: to the rack every single game.

1063
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 3: With good talent and good players and a good atmosphere

1064
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 3: the game, it becomes easier for you and so it's

1065
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 3: counting for Nobody knows who he is really. But again,

1066
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 3: when you have an s g A, you have a chet.

1067
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what's gonna like when Jay Dobb comes back,

1068
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 3: lou dort Aaron Like they have their resting guys.

1069
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: They feel like they're on a seventy seventy win pace, Yeah, seventy.

1070
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: They feel like they're, you know, on the pace to

1071
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: march to and get the back to back.

1072
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: It's just for me.

1073
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: Even in the playoffs last year, I thought the Denver

1074
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 2: series was telling. I thought the Indie series was telling,

1075
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: Like they're built to smoke people in the regular season.

1076
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 2: They're super deep, they play really hard every single game.

1077
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: They like the energy, the physical like they can they

1078
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: can be consistent every game with what they do that

1079
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: makes them elaite. So regular season they're telling me, I

1080
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,280
Speaker 2: just think in the playoffs it's gonna be a different story.

1081
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 2: And I do think Denver winner, if they meet again,

1082
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 2: is gonna give them. That's the head of it's gonna

1083
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: be the series. We're probably gonna see them in.

1084
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: The finally, hope we get both of those teams for

1085
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 1: your health and we.

1086
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: Get at least we're gonna at least six to seven games.

1087
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah in that series.

1088
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kers looks like he's on a mission.

1089
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 2: But can you think of another team that might because

1090
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 2: we all agree Denver they proof of.

1091
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: Constantbody thought, Lakers because of like Luca, we haven't seen

1092
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: Bron healthy. Because they're smart enough. They live off turnovers.

1093
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 3: I mean, you have three guys or at least two

1094
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 3: guys who don't turn it over and a smart high

1095
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 3: Q guys that handle a bigger than your guys.

1096
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 4: Yep.

1097
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 3: But the way that they said made Luca look he

1098
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: had one of his worst offensive games. He has the

1099
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 3: worst offense against them. They trapped him. You know, they

1100
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: got physical, they got they made him start their offense

1101
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 3: at half court. Like if they're doing that to him,

1102
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm sure Luca played better if you had Brown alongside him.

1103
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: So you think the Lakers would be a ton I

1104
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 3: think it's a different matchup. It's only it's only Denver bro.

1105
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: It's whole team's healthy. Those are the class of the NBA.

1106
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, got you. Okay.

1107
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: On a completely different note, the Indiana Pacers, the Eastern

1108
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 2: Conference reigning champions, are in playing for the Bulls guy,

1109
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: trying to get a They're last in the East.

1110
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 3: They get to get a top pick.

1111
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: Uh, expectations for them.

1112
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 3: I figured they'd be if they if they had everybody's

1113
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 3: healthy themhar t J. McConnell, Nie Smith, Matherin, Pascal Siaco.

1114
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: I think they'd be back still in the East.

1115
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: I thought they still be like a top six. It's

1116
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 3: just they were good. They had a deep team. Mylesorny

1117
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,240
Speaker 3: missing piece, but is an All Star. Yeah, All NBA teams,

1118
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: All NBA team, he's a Border All.

1119
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 4: Star, All Star East.

1120
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: He's a solid All Star All Star.

1121
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: How many All Star teams since he made three years?

1122
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: Been in the league, like eight nine years?

1123
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean he's a he's an All Star, yes,

1124
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 5: but he's not a parential So.

1125
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: You're not surprised that they're thinking up the.

1126
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 3: Stots three times All Star but sting the giants crazy.

1127
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: I thought they'd still be like I did.

1128
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 2: I thought they would much better than this. I thought

1129
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 2: they would be at the bottom. I thought they would be.

1130
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 5: John watched actually watch them in the finals. Yes, yes,

1131
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 5: like they were good because of Halliburton, fair like he

1132
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 5: created everything.

1133
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: There were also good times they played well without.

1134
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 6: Without him, when TJ Crazy would have some games come

1135
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 6: on now, so listen to this.

1136
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 5: You lost Halliburton right, and you lost uh turner turner,

1137
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 5: So now all the roles that you were comfortable playing

1138
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 5: you got to play a different role, more expanded.

1139
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 2: Bro.

1140
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 5: I think you're not comfortable like when we saw TJ

1141
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 5: starting and played like the second half of that game.

1142
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 5: He looks horrible in the finals. Sure because the minutes

1143
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 5: was too much. He's not used to playing against.

1144
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: Other twenty minutes bass to the wall, Yeah, that's the wall.

1145
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 3: I think losing Miles hurt them more than anything because

1146
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 3: they had moments where they play with out Tarris and

1147
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 3: looks out. Also the reason why TJ. McConnell was hurt

1148
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: for some game them Hart was out like all those

1149
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 3: guys were out. They had all their guys. See all

1150
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 3: of the guys and they're all together. They're a better

1151
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 3: team than one and ten. One in eleven they beat Charlotte.

1152
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, they better than those teams. Man, these

1153
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 5: guys made them look better.

1154
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you guys one more thing. He

1155
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 2: was voted the most overrated player last year by his peers,

1156
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: which is weird, Like Halliburton really be the most overraty

1157
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: is he the most underrated?

1158
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: Like he's out and they one and eleven without underrated that.

1159
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,959
Speaker 4: I mean, he's got the conference finals.

1160
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 3: People talking, people rave about how.

1161
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 1: Great he's rated. You think he's rated properly.

1162
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: I think he's okay. So where do you rank him

1163
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 4: as the point guards? So today.

1164
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: And the East, just in the whole league league, he's

1165
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: probably he's definitely top ten, but the top five is

1166
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: like he's probably right outside Brunton. I mean, are you

1167
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 3: putting s G.

1168
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: A in there?

1169
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 5: S G.

1170
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 4: Lucas is a point guard? Is a point guard?

1171
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 1: Do you guys think he's.

1172
00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 3: Better than MAXI this year he's having I mean, I

1173
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 3: feel like they're they're on the same playing field. I

1174
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 3: feel like they're both in like MAXI, I mean Lucas

1175
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 3: Luke Lucas a point.

1176
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: Guards a system andto himself Lucas a point guard.

1177
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: Lucas I mean, if we're gonna do that is a

1178
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: point guard, you know, like we're doing that, then yeah,

1179
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:23,720
Speaker 2: he's not better.

1180
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: Than that five best players.

1181
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 4: But you know, just like the way Halliberg influences, he's a.

1182
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 3: Top seven point guard for sure. I think he's the

1183
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 3: top seven point guard.

1184
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 4: I think he's top five.

1185
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: There you go, he's the biggest Haliburt.

1186
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: He influences winning. People said that he does the conference

1187
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 4: finals two in the world. Who playing for that?

1188
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 3: Again, there was moments where he was very up and

1189
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 3: some games he didn't show even he had game winners.

1190
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: Even the game times with the stats, she doesn't match

1191
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: up with his actual exaction talking about.

1192
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: I agree with that he does.

1193
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 3: He does win. He makes many players. But the reason

1194
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 3: why people were game is overrated, which we're not gonna

1195
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 3: say he's underrated, is because he got a lot of

1196
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: hype for but his team was also good and they

1197
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: won when he didn't play well or when he didn't

1198
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 3: play well, you know, the record when he didn't score

1199
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 3: twenty points. It was really bad.

1200
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: They got good coaching.

1201
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: I think Rick, I think, if anything, maybe not underrated,

1202
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 2: underappreciated whatever.

1203
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: I think he's better than people.

1204
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: Said on the game they had the game winn I

1205
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 3: think he had like twelve eighteen, like he had twelve

1206
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 3: points or so. He had the game winner first game.

1207
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: But it's like he was getting thirty like people had

1208
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 3: him in the standard because there was a time last

1209
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:35,280
Speaker 3: year before last he was getting thirty and twenty. He

1210
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: was getting twenty as sis games. Yeah, that standard is

1211
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 3: impossible to upkeep. So that's why they thought he was

1212
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 3: like j Kit you know what I'm saying, like that status,

1213
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 3: you know he's gonna get Rondo numbers the triple double,

1214
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: twenty point, twenty assist game or sixteen to six, saying

1215
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 3: he's just properly and he was shooting forty something from

1216
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: three he hit those numbers.

1217
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 4: Came about his individual performance. That's what you're not even talking.

1218
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 1: Was talking about the team, just talking he's the engine.

1219
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 4: The season, the.

1220
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: Matters.

1221
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 4: That matters.

1222
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 5: But we're telling you think about this when you want

1223
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 5: the time out, and he's like he doing talking ship

1224
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 5: Gast on his team up. That influence is bigger than numbers.

1225
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 5: Sometimes I agree he made them look like he had

1226
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 5: them like pumpkins right now.

1227
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: But in the back and the way he gave he

1228
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: gave the nick fans.

1229
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 4: Last morning.

1230
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: When you talk about individual numbers, that's what you're talking about.

1231
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: When you've rated somebody over under, you talking about the individual.

1232
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 4: Because his.

1233
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 9: Numbers don't We're just talking about the numbers. Numbers were

1234
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 9: you think Tree Young is better than that? Trey Young's numbers,

1235
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 9: that's always been better than his always that went by.

1236
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 3: Plays by the way, stop come on, stop stop do.

1237
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 1: Stop doing balk abouts.

1238
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: Run bro to take this. Okay, see team the seven

1239
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: and he's the engine of the team.

1240
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 4: If you don't get hurt, we can say that if

1241
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 4: he don't, Hi might have won it.

1242
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: He was looking like he was on his back.

1243
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not taking anything I would have you. I'm

1244
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 3: giving you the Devil's advocate. Why people saying he was overrated,

1245
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 3: So it was a lot of what are you saying though,

1246
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: I think he's very good. I think he's a top

1247
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 3: seven point guards. That's a very good rating. Like we're

1248
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,439
Speaker 3: acting like I'm saying he's the top seven in the league,

1249
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 3: and you're talking about Jalen Brunson s g A like,

1250
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 3: there's a lot of great points out then let's him.

1251
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: I think he showed Jailing that he could be at

1252
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: his level for sure, you know what I mean?

1253
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 3: For sure? Jayl's more consistent to me. That's what makes

1254
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 3: him outside of the top five.

1255
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 4: To me, he was like, he's more consistent with his numbers.

1256
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 3: Just his nice show up. There's nights he didn't get

1257
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 3: the record of him.

1258
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:51,640
Speaker 1: That's nice.

1259
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 3: They lost, Bro, they lost when you don't score twenty,

1260
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 3: they lost. That's fucking simple, like you can flying flying

1261
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: ship no matter you lose. Yeah, they won series, but

1262
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: they lost games when.

1263
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: He Danny Green gonna make him hit the rehab even harder.

1264
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 3: Bro, I never said, y'all making me look like I'm

1265
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 3: not a fan of the guy's.

1266
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 4: Game, the one without the guys.

1267
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 3: It's not just him, Moss Turner's going Nemhart didn't play.

1268
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 3: T J McConnell didn't pay like this guy. Pascal sat

1269
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 3: out games. They all sat out games and hat hall Burton,

1270
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 3: but I'm not I'm not saying that I didn't expect

1271
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 3: him to be great. Yes, they were gonna be worse

1272
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 3: had he's a level the top seven. When you got

1273
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: a league of like Luca bro he's the top seven.

1274
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 1: He's very good. That hall of hate has to end.

1275
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Indiana fans on my crazy crediting guy.

1276
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

1277
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 2: That's the caption to hallae hate. We're just gonna get

1278
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: some predictions out of you guys for some for some

1279
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 2: NBA Cup action.

1280
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:05,960
Speaker 1: Heat at Nicks.

1281
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 4: I'm going heat.

1282
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 3: Who's back yet?

1283
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter the Knicks arrested, they're at home, but

1284
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 2: the team at home out the ankle.

1285
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: Forget that, Forget what I just said. Everything I just said.

1286
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,959
Speaker 3: Russell got the ankle and yeah, man, but they've been playing.

1287
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 1: He won well regardless of that one.

1288
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 3: If Brunton ain't playing, I'm going I'm going heat.

1289
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1290
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: If Chal's out, give me the heat. The sixers at

1291
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: the Pistons. Piston has been on.

1292
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 3: I'm going Philly Man. Detroit and de Troit do for

1293
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:45,919
Speaker 3: a loss.

1294
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 4: They want the.

1295
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: Detroit top four defensive n B A Detroit K Cunningham

1296
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: on a roll. They don't get they.

1297
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 3: Don't have a match for a loss like ten and one.

1298
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 2: Raised not enough for K cunning to give me the

1299
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: Pistons number one in the East right now, Kings at

1300
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 2: the Timberwolves, give me a break.

1301
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 3: Teams in the NBA, we shouldn't evenscuss all yeah, Timberwolves, Minnesota.

1302
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: Warriors at the Spurs rematch, Danny.

1303
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Spurs get they get back. I'm saying because

1304
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 3: I just don't see I just don't see Jimmy getting

1305
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 3: five threes again and most Moody like both they had

1306
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 3: like ten threes between both of them orne three. I

1307
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 3: would say al Harford had a couple of hair like

1308
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 3: three threes. So like their supporting cast came up, I'm

1309
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 3: gonna say carried them. They came up big for them

1310
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 3: because step had forty six and he didn't have a

1311
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: great night from three. He was five for sixteen from three.

1312
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: So then what if Steph does have a great night

1313
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: from three? Still all set? Still enough.

1314
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with Tyler of like making yok

1315
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 3: beat us having fifty step fore get fifty. They can

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Speaker 3: still if those other guys don't show up, they're still

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Speaker 3: gonna lose.

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I think Golden State they got their win and

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Speaker 2: they feel like they got that mental edge enough and they're.

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Speaker 1: Gonna take it easy.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna take it easy though.

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Speaker 1: I like, Okay, I'm going to Spurs.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to beat the team back to back.

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Speaker 1: It is. It is the NBA, all right, folks. That

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Speaker 1: was our show for today.

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Speaker 2: of that one star shit. Make sure y'all light us up. Man,

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Speaker 2: it really does have to be the algorithm. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you guys next time. Peace out.

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