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Speaker 1: Hey, what a welcome in. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is

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Speaker 1: Feel free, somebody want to hear from topic you want tackled,

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Speaker 1: knock yourself out. Today's guest is Angela Weathers. Angela was

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Speaker 1: the first head coach of a men's professional basketball team ever.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but we'll also talk about her journey,

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Speaker 1: her journey to to this place as a star basketball

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Speaker 1: player in his own right. It is fascinating, fascinating today

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Speaker 1: is really more about a journey. Before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: I do want to ask this question. You know when

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Speaker 1: we were kids, uh, In in football, your best player

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Speaker 1: or your star player was a running back. In basketball,

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Speaker 1: your go to guy. Who's your center? Now? There were exceptions, right,

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Speaker 1: Magic and Bird were the exceptions. They're both big six

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Speaker 1: Robert Parrish may have been a little mechanical, but the

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Speaker 1: chief block shots, dunked, made shots, and was generally an

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Speaker 1: incredibly respected member of Larry Birds Celtics championship crew. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson had Kareem Abdul Jabbar, who was the six

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Speaker 1: So you had great big guys. My question is what

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Speaker 1: about two thousand twenty two. Your kitchen is out of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Um, We've seen a lot of talk about

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert maybe be moved or his limitations, and part

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Speaker 1: of it is like, look, he struggles with rotations defensively

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Speaker 1: But I watched Joel Embiide and I know that your

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Speaker 1: I understand some of it is the teams that you're

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Speaker 1: playing against, but some of it is just how basketball

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Speaker 1: has changed. And I ask you, and I think I

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Speaker 1: because they're stretched away from the of the hoops so greatly.

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Speaker 1: And and this is like, Look in football, you still

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Speaker 1: The same is true for for big guys. You know,

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Speaker 1: with Angelo Weathers. Yeah. Well, look, obviously, you know when

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Speaker 1: I intro you, we go through your list of amazing accomplishments.

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Speaker 1: But everybody started somewhere, Okay, you started playing basketball ware

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Speaker 1: We went in number five in the nation. We end

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Speaker 1: name began to ring a bell across the nation. So

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00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: I received fan mail from the East Coast and different places,

427
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: you know, so it felt good. It felt good. What

428
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: was it like, we're you're a little bit younger than me,

429
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: but similar era. Yeah, and I'm interested in what it

430
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,119
Speaker 1: was like from this perspective. You know, guys basketball, NBA,

431
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 1: n b A, and and maybe you inslide to a

432
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: lesser extent overseas ball. Yeah, it's a little bit poisoned,

433
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: only in that the only way you're gonna win, as

434
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, you've wont a lot, is that everybody's play

435
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: in the same direction. If everybody's goal is the same, right,

436
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: there's no agendas. And the problem with men's basketball is

437
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 1: every one of those dudes thinks that they're going to

438
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 1: go to the NBA, right, and most of them are not,

439
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: And then they're like, well not, I'll go play over season,

440
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: and that's incredibly difficult. Women's basketball up until the last

441
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, ten years, hasn't hasn't had that issue. So

442
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: obviously there was basketball out there to be played. But

443
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: when you're playing and you're starring at Northwestern State. Is

444
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 1: it even a thought in your mind about making money

445
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: playing overseas, playing professional basketball beyond college? Absolutely, that was

446
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: the plan since eighth grade. I mean, if you asked me,

447
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, um my name, it was I'm Angela Davidson,

448
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be a professional basketball player when

449
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: I grow up. So that was always a plan. Um,

450
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: it was. I will say the transfer, Um, it really

451
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: was a blow to my moral compass and believing that

452
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: I would get there, but it was still like, uh,

453
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind. I was going to get

454
00:24:56,400 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: there somehow. And so uh so with that, UM, I

455
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: will say, for me, my true north um and my

456
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: faith walk is what literally kept me on focus to

457
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: do that. Um, despite playing with teammates that did not

458
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: have that dream. I literally had maybe one or two

459
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: teammates that wanted to play professional basketball. And for me,

460
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, just just sticking to the regiment,

461
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: sticking to what got me to where I was and

462
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: staying focused on that. And UM, yeah, so definitely was always, um,

463
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: you know a dream you finish up at Northwestern State,

464
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: then yeah, so, um, the reality of playing professionally. Coach

465
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: called me into the uh into the locker room and

466
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: to his office and said, you know, hey, I know

467
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 1: you want to play professional basketball. Um, you know, here's

468
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 1: a contact. So one of the coaches in the conference

469
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: that given the UH w n B a UM, you know,

470
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: FIBA certified agents contact information that was interested in signing.

471
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: He said, when you give him a call, you know,

472
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,959
Speaker 1: coach was at that level. Some people, you know, they

473
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: don't care whether you play or not professionally. And so graciously, UM,

474
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, the gentleman signed me. UM. And it just

475
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: so happened. He had quite a few w NBA players

476
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: and UM was taking on international clients. And for the

477
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: reason that I was a number one of the number

478
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: I was number eight senior in the in the nation

479
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: and on the senior watch list, UM was. I'm assuming

480
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 1: that's why he took me on. UM and the Sparks

481
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: were the only team to ask for my film, and

482
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: they were number one at the time. UH, So I

483
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,879
Speaker 1: knew that this was gonna be a reality, and it

484
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: was just a matter of UM they were the salary dispute,

485
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: and it was just a far chance that I would,

486
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, be invited. And so what I did was, UM,

487
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: I swallowed the pill and said, okay, well let's look

488
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: if you could just get me, you know obviously in

489
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 1: the FEBA and where I need to play against the

490
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: same women, UM, I'll make it happen. And so that's

491
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 1: what we did. And um so, so I went to

492
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 1: UM I was I was the first woman to play

493
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: in Macedonia, first black woman playing Macedonia. So they had

494
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: just entered into FEBA and the caveats that obviously was

495
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: um new team to FEBA. And you know, you know,

496
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: I only went to Europe just contingent upon going to

497
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: the w n b A and getting back. So played

498
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 1: in a troll colleague as well, average double double in

499
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: the tro colleague, lead in every statistical category. In the

500
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: first round of FEBA, we got knocked out and I'm like,

501
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 1: deuce is I'm going home? And what was that? What

502
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: was Macedonia like? You know, it was very peaceful. It's

503
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: a I mean, it is a very poor country. It's small. Um,

504
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: but I played for the wealthiest, one of the wealthiest

505
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: gentleman that owns a you know, textile company there. So

506
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: it was real, um laid back, you know, very very quiet, serene.

507
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: Um I was by the the Black Sea, and so

508
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I just you know, I just took a lot of

509
00:27:50,359 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: time to just again just language. Um is is it's called?

510
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: So did you pick it up? I mean you know,

511
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:10,120
Speaker 1: where's my money? Good day? Dope that I did. Everybody

512
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: knows where my money? That is international, where it is

513
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: my money, no money, no practice. Sorry. So yeah, that

514
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: was you know, literally, um, yeah, that was the case.

515
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: The very time people they embraced me, I became a celebrity.

516
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: Um my coach. He also coached some of the local

517
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: youth and so I would volunteer my time and um,

518
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: and so I received a letter um from them to

519
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: present uh you know to wherever I was going that

520
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: Um it was an honor and a privilege for them

521
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: to have me, and um I intend I actually I'm

522
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: doing a grant right now for Macedonia. So this is crazy.

523
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: How become full circle? So is that the only foreign

524
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: country you played in? Yeah? So yeah, and literally towards

525
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: um Greece area. Um, you know, so it's a it's

526
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: a very large But you didn't like once you went

527
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: we got the w n B A. You weren't bouncing

528
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: back because because most a lot of women were bounced

529
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: back and play in the Russias and whatever make make

530
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: a bunch of money. And I knew, I knew I

531
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: was a double NBA player. I went came back and

532
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,479
Speaker 1: then I played in the n w b L. And

533
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: so the n w b L was a fast growing

534
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: what would be equivalent to the G League. Played the

535
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 1: Berman Cline and Kenny Harvey and uh Bean Sanders for

536
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: show and um so I did that for two years,

537
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: um and hopes to get back in and on American

538
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: soil instead of going back overseas. So I opted out

539
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: of that. What was it like to make it to

540
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: the w n b A um so, Actually I was

541
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: a free agent, so I didn't get in, um you know,

542
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: which was which was fine. I did get to play

543
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: in the n w b L with um Cheryl Ford,

544
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: Cheryl Swoops. Um. We had the most double NBA players

545
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: on my team, uh than any other teams. So you

546
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: know that was that leak was like that leak was

547
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 1: like the USB L. I played in the USB L

548
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: similarly in the USB L, like you know, I played

549
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: with Willie Burton. It was a knife picking the rap

550
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: you play with guys that are pros are trying to

551
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: get back in the league exactly, and and you know,

552
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: and they just they're sneaking you squeak a little different,

553
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: but it's amazing. What a different It's definitely different than

554
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: playing in FI. But it's different than playing in college basketball.

555
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: And you're playing w n B R NBA rules with

556
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: w n B R NBA players. It's like a different sport.

557
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: It was literally that was so I tell people that

558
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: was my w b A. The game was good to me.

559
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: I earned the respect of the greatest players in the game.

560
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what that was. I know a couple

561
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: of guys, John Cafino and uh oh Albright. Uh he

562
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: actually became my son's college coach at Kilgore later, So

563
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of those USB oh guys, Mark

564
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: who was Mark o'guire. Yes, of course. Um so when

565
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: did when did coaching become a possibility? Like through all

566
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: this stuff, like you don't like, how did when did

567
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: coaching become something that that intrigued you? Well, um, you know,

568
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: after I was able to just um swallow the reality,

569
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: after it took me probably two years to realize like, okay,

570
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: this is not this is it's I'm not okay. That

571
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,239
Speaker 1: I I didn't that I didn't play hey, because I

572
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,479
Speaker 1: know that the game was good to me. And so okay,

573
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: what do I do next? And sure enough, Um, I

574
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: became a skills coach first training, and so coach was

575
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: not a word that I wanted any kid to call me. Okay,

576
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: it was I'm you know, this is this is this

577
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: is uh, Miss Angela, don't call me coach okay, and

578
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: um with that, I started training youth in Colin County

579
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: and it just so happened to be. They ended up

580
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: be very very talented young group of young ladies and

581
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: before you know what, their parents were like, Hey, you

582
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: gotta coach our kids, and I'm like, no, you don't understand.

583
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: I'm not a coach, and so I I accepted it

584
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: the challenge. In about year two UM after Chris Bosh's

585
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: um uncle had given me a gym for like for

586
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: for and so with that, I ended up going in

587
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: UM and finishing very high, which doesn't happen in AU

588
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: as a top twenty team in the nation. And so

589
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: I said okay. So by year two I expanded from

590
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: two to ten basketball teams and boys and girls youth

591
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: a you and so UM That's when I was like,

592
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: you know what, this is all right, and I will

593
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: say I will. I was fully okay with it. When um,

594
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: my top player sending at six three UM to twenty

595
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 1: in the tenth grade, was invited to Nike and the

596
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: Nike camp that I missed because I was pregnant. As

597
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: a young student athlete, she was afforded the opportunity to

598
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: be invited and I accompanied her there and to see

599
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: all of the coaches that recruited me on the baseline

600
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: and when I walked into my Jordan outfit and they

601
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: were like, that is Angela Davidson. Oh my gosh, who

602
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: did she bring here? And to see this kid do

603
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: what she did against one of the top seen years

604
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: in the country. I knew that he was okay, and

605
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: I was okay with coaching and being where I was at. Wait,

606
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: we skipped something here. You got pregnant when you're playing

607
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: in college in high school. I don't I don't tell

608
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: people that that. People kind of do the math. But

609
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I was. I was going into my senior year. Okay, okay,

610
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: So you're you're in with Medory, right, You're in You're

611
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: in Louisiana. You're aware Les Bille, Louisiana. Okay, you're in Leesville, Louisiana. Yeah,

612
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: and you're a high school basketball star. Had you committed

613
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: him Ole Miss at this point or not yet? Um so?

614
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: Um no? I had not. So about fifty of the

615
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: top one fifty dropped off in fifty that were there,

616
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: and then when narrowed down my list of top twenty five,

617
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: they were still there. Okay, so this this before that? Okay,

618
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: So when did you actually find out your PREGNU going

619
00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: into um my in my my junior year. I your

620
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 1: your junior Are you playing at the times that winner?

621
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: So winner, you find out you're pregnant. I delivered him

622
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: September one, so you figured. But again, don't skip because

623
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: this part, like first, this is so far out of

624
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: I know there's playing that friends those guys that that

625
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: had a kid when they were in high school or

626
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: in college, but not actually the woman who's the hooper. Okay,

627
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: so you're playing how long did did you know you're

628
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: pregnant before you told anybody? I was through three months

629
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: and I told my high school coach. I didn't I

630
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: didn't even tell my mom. I told my coach. What

631
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: was that conversation like Um, I, you know, I went

632
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: in the office and I said, I have something to

633
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: tell you, and you're not gonna be proud of me.

634
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: And I started to cry. He already knew and he said,

635
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: you're pregnant, and yeah, and I can't tell my mom.

636
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: My mom at the time was a fiery jew and

637
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: she like drove all over the world for me in basketball,

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Speaker 1: just knew she was gonna kill me. And she didn't

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Speaker 1: kill me, clearly, but I went through a lot, you know,

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Speaker 1: once mom knew it was, you know, it was it

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Speaker 1: was really tough, like really tough like in our in

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Speaker 1: that culture, you do not embarrass the family. And what

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Speaker 1: I did was like the whole total embarrassment of embarrassment.

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Speaker 1: And so that is why I did not get Um

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Speaker 1: that's why I was not I was a high school

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Speaker 1: High School American nominee, and that's why I was not

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Speaker 1: named an All American. And um, it was why I

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Speaker 1: missed the opportunity to accomplish that All American status. Because

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Speaker 1: so you so that summer before your senior year, you're pregnant.

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Speaker 1: You deliver your child in September and number one and

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Speaker 1: then like, so I was he was nine pounds. I

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00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: was overweight. Um, and clearly I was eighteen years old. Um,

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Speaker 1: seventeen turning eighteen within six days? We are you know

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Speaker 1: my birthdays of seventh? So um, yeah, I had joint issues.

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Speaker 1: I literally was averaging nothing until January February of when

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Speaker 1: conference play comes in district play, and when I tell you,

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Speaker 1: because of the scope of my life, the landscape of

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Speaker 1: my life changed drastically. I ended up averaging a triple

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Speaker 1: double my senior year, which is I know it's unheard of,

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Speaker 1: but I grew up blocks though, right was it with blocks?

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Speaker 1: Was rebounds and assists or was it with block points?

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Speaker 1: So I average twenty two points ten rebounds tennisis five

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Speaker 1: block shots and three stills? And you had a kid

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Speaker 1: at home? So how do you how do you balance that?

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Speaker 1: How do you do that? Like your eighteen and you're

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Speaker 1: playing and you're in high school and you have a kid.

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Speaker 1: I was terrible. I was terrible. I was terrible. I

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Speaker 1: was a terrible mother. Um you know, within six months,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I want to make it. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: But if it was not for my mother, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be where I am today. UM. She You know, Mom

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Speaker 1: was adopted at birth, so she was she was very

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Speaker 1: embracing UM when he came at first, UM, the decision

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Speaker 1: was do we keep him or not? It was that

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00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: and UM, you know, I was really frustrated. I was

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Speaker 1: really frustrated at lots of tears. I tried to do

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Speaker 1: the mom thing and it was like, I am horrible.

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Speaker 1: But the best thing I could do, what Mom put

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Speaker 1: me in position to do was to go to college,

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Speaker 1: give my education, and come back and take care of him.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I did. So she took care of

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Speaker 1: him while you're in college. So she took care of him,

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Speaker 1: UM the first two years. And then when I started

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Speaker 1: dating my first husband, UM, his family took so I

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Speaker 1: could finish playing. Wow. Yeah, I don't tell this story

687
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Speaker 1: because I want young women to know that I don't

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Speaker 1: glorify by any means. It's it's a very difficult to

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Speaker 1: bounce back from UM. But we are human and we

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Speaker 1: are women in the game. And when I played back then,

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Speaker 1: coaches would each your alive if if if they found

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Speaker 1: out that was you, didn't you you didn't keep scholarships

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Speaker 1: back then if you're pregnant, Yeah, yeah, that's a while

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Speaker 1: for manage. I really appreciate her joining me. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to point apart two upcoming. Reminded, The Doug Gottleib Show

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Speaker 1: is available daily three to six Eastern twelve to three

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Speaker 1: Pacific on your I Heart Radio app, Fox, Sword Tradio

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Speaker 1: dot Com, or Serious XE two oh three. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned for part two. Angela was fantastic. The tail

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Speaker 1: gets even better. I'm Doug Gottlieb. This is all ball