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Speaker 1: Welcome to Thursdays, and they should a big blue kick

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Speaker 1: off live here on Giants dot Com. He is Jeff Feagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lance Meado. Thanks so much for spending part of

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Speaker 1: your day with us. We take you up till the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour. A lot to tackle over the

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Speaker 1: next sixty minutes. We'll get to your phone calls at

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Speaker 1: two zero one one three hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna continue to preview the two thousand eighteen Giants

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Speaker 1: opponents as we move along, and in week fifteen, the

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Speaker 1: Giants will be hosting the Tennessee Titans at MetLife Stadium

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Speaker 1: to provide more insight on Tennessee. Right off the top

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Speaker 1: of the show, we're joined by the radio play by

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Speaker 1: play voice of the Tennessee Titans, and that is Mike Keith.

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Speaker 1: Mikey got Lance Meadow, Jeff Feagles here on Giants dot Com.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the time. How's everything all right, Mike, I'm great, Lance, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: It's very good to be with you. And it's so

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Speaker 1: funny you would say in week fifteen and I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: about December sixty and I just think about how different

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Speaker 1: these two football teams may look in five months from

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Speaker 1: what we're discussing right now, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: great things about the NFL is you know, you you

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Speaker 1: never quite know. You think you know, but you never

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Speaker 1: quite know everything. And I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons that the NFL it's the most popular sport in

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Speaker 1: the United States because it's just such a roller coaster

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Speaker 1: ride starting in September and going all the way through.

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Speaker 1: make during the course of the season. Well, well said Mike,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you on what appears on paper right

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Speaker 1: now could be very different when we're talking about these

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Speaker 1: two teams in December. But the Titans, unlike the Giants,

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Speaker 1: did go to the playoffs last year. They were nine

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Speaker 1: second round of the postseason. So let's start with the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. Mike and Marcus Mariotta played fifteen games last season,

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Speaker 1: but statistically the numbers did not jump off the page

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Speaker 1: and then offensively, the team just never got in a

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Speaker 1: And Mariota has looked very comfortable with what we've seen

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Speaker 1: then heard hamstring early in the year as well. You

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Speaker 1: at wide receiver, be Dez Bryant's available see the Titans

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Speaker 1: signed Dez Bryant. Where does Dez Bryant help the Titans?

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Speaker 1: It just smells like New England. It's gonna look like

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Speaker 1: But listen, if they have the success in New England,

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Speaker 1: you could just see the difference in the pros. And that,

430
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,120
Speaker 1: to me is always the biggest development with young players

431
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: is how quickly do they become a pro? How do

432
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: they how quickly? Is it obvious they know they've got

433
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: to get sleep, They can't eat six cheeseburgers, they can't

434
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: play Madden all night long? You know? Did they sort

435
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: of get fired? As a guy who was like that

436
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: the minute he got here, and his family situation, uh

437
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: made him that way. He came from a really difficult

438
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: situation with his family where he essentially had to raise

439
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: his brothers and sisters for a period of time in

440
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: high school. When he got the Middle Tennessee State, he

441
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: immediately was grown up. When he got here, he was

442
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: grown up. I think he's gonna be a good player

443
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,920
Speaker 1: in this league for a long long time. And I

444
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: think by at some point in the team season, everybody's

445
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 1: gonna know Kevin Buyer today. Well, you know, when you're

446
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: in the NFL and I've played a long time, and

447
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: it there there are those guys where we call him

448
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: the pros pro and and and this is a this

449
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,959
Speaker 1: is a guy that came into the NFL already grown up.

450
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: I mean, just from the stories you just said and

451
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: It's just really nice to see that those kind of

452
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: guys that you know, he'll last. Um. There there's a

453
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: lot of guys out there that are they're they're so smart.

454
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: Their their ability, their physical ability may not be the best,

455
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: but the fact that is that they're workers and they

456
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: understand the game. They'll stick around a long time. Will

457
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 1: he last as long as you, Jeff, that's I doubt it.

458
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 1: I would bet my money that he wouldn't. But you know,

459
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: there's a good I'm like Mike Rabel that people still

460
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: think I'm playing right, but I'm not. I'm not. I've

461
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: I've cashed in it, so I'm on. But you know, listen,

462
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: I can't go without an interview without saying something about

463
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: the Special Team, of course, and I will tell you

464
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: this is a special teams, special special teams unit right here.

465
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 1: Uh And you know, and you want to have to

466
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: spend an hour on this, but I want you to

467
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: type just touched lightly on the kicker and the punter

468
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: here because these guys are good, I mean, really really good. UM.

469
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: Steve Hoffman is there has been a lifeline, lifelong friend

470
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: of mine. UM. And we he's now living here in

471
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 1: Jersey and we were we were out a few weeks

472
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: ago talking about Brett and Ryan. I mean, he's he

473
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: just can't talk enough about those guys and how good

474
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: they are. Yeah, and he did a great job with

475
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: both of them, sort of refining their technique. And they

476
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,479
Speaker 1: have a great snapper two. And the guy a guy

477
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: named Bo Brinkley, who is you know, a guy who

478
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: does a great job covering kicks for us, you know,

479
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: covering punts for us. He's he's that kind of guy.

480
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: We have a lot of guys who do little things.

481
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 1: John Robinson has made a point to go out and

482
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 1: signed Darren Bates, Uh Brendan Trowick, who went to the

483
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl last year as a kick cover guy. You

484
00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 1: mentioned Brett kern Is he's a better punter than Craig Hendrick,

485
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: and I never thought I would say that Craig Hendrick

486
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: you talked about a PROS pro. Craig Hendrick was phenomenal.

487
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: Brett Currny is better, largely because Craig Hendrick has helped training,

488
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: has has given him tips and has worked with him.

489
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: Suck Up has become that kicker that as he's gotten

490
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: to thirty, he's better than he was at twenty two

491
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: because he's he's developed a lot of consistency and the

492
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: guy who's taken over and I'm sure Hoffman would agree

493
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: with this too. Uh. They got a young coach by

494
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: the name of Craig Ackerman who they not only kept,

495
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: but they promoted. This guy is going to be a

496
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: really special special teams coach. Uh. You know where the

497
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 1: kickoff in the game is gonna look vastly different in

498
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: terms of how you staff it, of how you staff

499
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: kickoff returns, of who you use as a returner. And

500
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: this guy's already got a lot of plans that way.

501
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: I spent thirty minutes talking to him at the coffee machine.

502
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to, but I said, how is it

503
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: gonna look different with the rules changes? He says, you're

504
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna use these kind of players because

505
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: you can't use a wedge and and they have a

506
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: lot of these kind of guys that I think it

507
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: could make a difference in a game or two this

508
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: year because of the snapper, because of the kickers, because

509
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 1: of the coverage guys, because of the way they've developed

510
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 1: this roster. I think it may be a secret weapon

511
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: for the Titans that wins them a ball game somewhere

512
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: down the line and certainly helps him at a bunch

513
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: of others. Talking with Mike Keith the Titans radio play

514
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: by plan outs are Mike, last one for me? What

515
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: you just touched on field position, time of possession, such

516
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: important elements when you try to win football games. And

517
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: that brings me back to offense. We were focusing on

518
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback. We focused on the wide receiver position. When

519
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: Mike mclarkey was the head coach, he was known for

520
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: that ground and pound style of football to Marco Murray retired,

521
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: so they now transitioning to Derrick Henry. But you know,

522
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: people may overlook the fact they signed Dion Lewis in

523
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: free agency, yet another patriotie in which I don't think

524
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 1: many people are surprised. How do you see the carries

525
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: in the workload balancing out in the backfield and it

526
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: seems as if the offensive line is returning for the

527
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: most part. How important is that continuity as part of

528
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: the run game as well. I think there's importance, But

529
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: I think they're also going to be changes based on

530
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: what La Fleur wants to do in the run game.

531
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: The battle in the offensive line is going to be

532
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: at left guard. So other than that, I think Coughland

533
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: will get back from the a c L. I think

534
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: Lawan will sign his contract. I don't. I think it'll

535
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: be back to normal pretty quickly there. I love Dion

536
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: Lewis because we just saw him in January, and when

537
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: we were preparing to play against him, the coaching staff

538
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: that I've spoke with was blown away by the fact

539
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: that this back at five pounds is the versatile sort

540
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: of Darren Sprawls kind of guy, and yet he has

541
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: the ability to really run the football well inside, which

542
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: for a guy that size is unheard of. So when

543
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: we got a chance to sign him, I thought to myself,

544
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: he is the perfect compliment for Derrick Henry, because not

545
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: only is Henry fifty five pounds heavier and and a

546
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: good pack in his own right, but because of Louis's versatility,

547
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: you are able to run the same plays with him

548
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: if you choose to, then you are with Derrick Henry.

549
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: So when Louis comes in the game, the defense isn't

550
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: gonna immediately say, oh, this is gonna be an outside

551
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: run or a screen pass. He can he can jam

552
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: it up inside. He's hard to find he's strong, he's tough.

553
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: I like this player very much. And talk about all

554
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots and and signing players from the Patriots, and

555
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,719
Speaker 1: people say, oh, that's you know, Mike Rabel and John Robinson,

556
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: you know, wanting their system in their locker room. And

557
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: I think that's true. But you know what else, guys,

558
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: they're good pat and good they have really good players

559
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: that the goals in this game in my mind, personnel wise,

560
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: And and you know, I'm just a broadcaster. Let's get

561
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of good players. Let's get as many good

562
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,959
Speaker 1: players as possible. Dan Lewis, when healthy is really really good.

563
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: And now that he's gotten healthy, he's not a worn

564
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: out player. They signed him for what if you stare

565
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: at it is a really good contract for him and

566
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: for the Titans, and he's the perfect compliment to this

567
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: big back who I think has a chance to be special.

568
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: I see them again, long answer, I apologize. I see

569
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: them as one A and one B. One A and

570
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: one B. I think is is how it's gonna be

571
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: more than the number one and the number two. I

572
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: think Henry will end up with more carries, but I

573
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: don't think Henry is gonna have an Eddie George. Number

574
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: of carries we used to see Eddie George regularly be

575
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: enter around four hundred carries. I don't think there's any

576
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: way that happens last one. For me, it's really not

577
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: a question more of an observation. On my point is this,

578
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, looking at the Giants, and you know with

579
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: with uh, with Pat Shermer coming in there, with the

580
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: new head coach and free agency, he went out and

581
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: filled the void that was in the was needed in

582
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: the locker room. I don't see that there was much

583
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: of a need in the Tennessee rocker room as it

584
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: is the Giants. And I'm talking about leadership here. UM.

585
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: So when I look at these guys that they go

586
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: out and sign a Dion Lewis and Malcolm Butler, you know,

587
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel knows those guys. He knows how much of

588
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: a how much of a leaders that they are. Um.

589
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: And it seems to me that this roster is is

590
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: put together pretty good for in prime for a good

591
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: good run. You've got these guys that are used to

592
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: those types of runs. I think that was real important

593
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: for for the Tennessee Titans and having that leadership, and

594
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is not only like

595
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: you said, Mike, that there are not only good players,

596
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: they're very very good leaders. I mean, listen, correct. It

597
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: was something that started with rust and Webster, the last

598
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: general manager that's signing Delaney Walker, you know, going out

599
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: and drafting the players that he drafted, especially Marcus Mariota.

600
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: John Robinson took the foundation and has really built on

601
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: that dramatically. That character and that professionalism is something they've

602
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: built on. And here's what impresses me most about Rabeling. Obviously, Jeff,

603
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: you played for several coaches. You know, some guys walk

604
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: in and they say, I gotta show everybody that I'm

605
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: in charge. So I'm gonna blow up this. I'm gonna

606
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: blow up that. I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that.

607
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 1: You're You're gonna learn quickly that I'm the guy here,

608
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm the dude. Rabel hasn't done any of that. Rabel

609
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: hasn't done any of that. Now, maybe that's because and

610
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: this is a guy who could hire an offensive coordinator

611
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: who was competition for the head coaching job. What does

612
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: that say about his confidence in himself as a human being.

613
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: Real leaders, real people with confidence don't have to tell you.

614
00:32:56,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: They just show you. And he and he has come

615
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: in and he has said, listen, I'm in charge. You

616
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: know that. I'm gonna do some things my way. You

617
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: know that. But we're not going to reinvent the wheel

618
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: here that this is not This is I think the

619
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: third time since the year two thousand that a coach

620
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: has been fired after winning the playoff game in the NFL.

621
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: Happens in the NBA and Major League Baseball doesn't happen

622
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: in the NFL and Ray Bowl saying this is not

623
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: a rebuilding job. So I'm gonna lean on my locker room.

624
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm going to develop it my way. I'm going to

625
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: have these things come into play, and overall, I think

626
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna end up being a good football team. We're

627
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna do it my way and you know that. But

628
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel the need to tear it all down

629
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: just because I can. And to me, again, that's Rabel

630
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: showing that he's way ahead of the curve because I've

631
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: been involved with a couple of coaches that just tore

632
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: down things just to do it. And that's silly. I mean,

633
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: it's silly, and and that's also why they got fired. Yeah,

634
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: putting your stamp on the team. Just for sake of

635
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: putting your stamp on the team, put your saying, hey

636
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: go win twelve games. I promise you your stamps on

637
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: the team. And and the fact that matter is when

638
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 1: you got a five year contract to hold the coach

639
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: and NFL team your stamps on the team, you don't

640
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: have to tell everybody. It's like Vrabel refuses to talk

641
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: about himself as a player except for one thing. He

642
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 1: does like it when you ask about his twelve touchdown

643
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: catching he loves. He likes he likes to talk about

644
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: the fact when they put him in and they threw

645
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: to him twelve times, he caught twelve touchdown passages, which

646
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: I think it's hilarious. Will he talk about the sacks

647
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: and being an all pro note he hated. The players

648
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: love his resume. They also love the fact that he's

649
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: not talking about back in my day and he doesn't

650
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: want to discuss that. He says, this is your day,

651
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: this is not my day. Well, it's also it is

652
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: a little bit his day because you know what, you

653
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: can talk about him being a player, but now he's

654
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: a coach and a head coach and this is new

655
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: for him too, So you know, there's not a lot

656
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: to talk about there because there's no history there yet.

657
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that you're going forward, there's gonna be

658
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: a little bit of history for the Titans, and uh,

659
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 1: you know, it looks like they're they're primed to have

660
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: a nice season, so well it should be go ahead, Mike.

661
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: The franchise has has never had three straight winning seasons.

662
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: This is the twentieth year of the Titans never had

663
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: three straight winning seasons. So even though seven playoff appearances

664
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in nineteen years isn't bad, three street winning seasons would

665
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: be pretty exciting. Well, you got the Titans. Look at

666
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: the build off their postseason performance last year, the Giants

667
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: trying to get back to the playoffs as it will

668
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: be the Giants of the Titans week fifteen at MetLife Stadium. Mike,

669
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: it will be interest see how much relevancy this interview

670
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: had when we meet again in December. As you knowed

671
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: off the top of the interview. But really appreciate the

672
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: time and the inside a lot of great stuff. Thanks

673
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. Well, thanks so much. And

674
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: when that game comes around in December, Jeff, I have

675
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: your football card when you played for the Canton Bulldogs.

676
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:17,280
Speaker 1: Did you mind signing? He absolutely, I want to be president.

677
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: They are coming here, yes, yeah, alright, So Lant and

678
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: I do the pregame show for the Giants and hopefully

679
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: maybe we get your background the program and talk a

680
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: little bit about what we talked about today, and yeah,

681
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: I will sign that Canton Bulldogs UH football card for you.

682
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mike, thanks him, Take it easy, great stuff, Audam,

683
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: Mike Keith of the Titans radio network. They're played by

684
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: playing out Sir in a matchup that we won't see

685
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: for quite some time, but it is important to at

686
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: least get an idea of who the Giants are going

687
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: up against. It. Tomorrow, we're gonna preview our final opponent,

688
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: that being the Indianapolis Coldson. We're gonna open up the

689
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: phone lines here at two zero, one five, one three,

690
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: So if you want to weigh in on anything Giants

691
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: related to the Titans, feel free to give us a ring.

692
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: But I think what's interesting if we take the Titans

693
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: conversation a bit further, Jeff, is the division overall of

694
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: the a f C South. I was, you know, I

695
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: didn't have time and I knew that if I had

696
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: mentioned that we might have got another hour, we could. Yeah,

697
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: but that division, that's ridiculous, and we could get it

698
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 1: to that more tomorrow when we talk to colts. But

699
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: I mean, between you and I, we can at least

700
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: delve into it everybody. I think in years past, Jeff,

701
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: when you think about the a f C South, you know,

702
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: maybe Indianapolis makes some noise. Jacksonville was nothing to write

703
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: home about. Tennessee, you know, middle of the pack, and

704
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: then the Houston Texans were a team you know you'd

705
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They were good at defense, but the

706
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: quarterback was a merry go round. Now, all of a sudden, Jeff,

707
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: Tennessee's coming off a playoff appearance, Indianapolis gets Andrew Luck back,

708
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson returns for the Texans and they have a

709
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: respectable defense, and Jacksonville is a juggernaut almost with the

710
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: way that their defense is playing and how their quarterback

711
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: position and Leonard Forneff come along. So you know, this

712
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: is a much deeper division than in has passed. This

713
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: is not a cakewalk when you get the a f

714
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: C South on your schedule. Which also brings me to

715
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 1: when you look at the Giant schedule. And I've said

716
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: this before, and you guys know I've said this on

717
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: this program, will continue to say it because the fact

718
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: is is that when you look at this Giant schedule

719
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: and you look at the divisions that the Giants are playing,

720
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: and just for instance of what we just talked about,

721
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: they gotta play Jacksonville, they gotta play Indianapolis, They've got

722
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: to play the Titans. This this is a very tough schedule.

723
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: And even though the Giants I feel are much improved,

724
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: they are you know, these these games and these are

725
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: some tough, tough opponents that this Giant team has to play,

726
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: particularly the first eight games of the season. Now they

727
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: don't play the Titan until the very end of the season,

728
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: which you know, who knows. I would imagine that the Titans,

729
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: if it goes anywhere that we think it's gonna be,

730
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a very tough, tight division, and that

731
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: they'll be playing for something in in September. I mean,

732
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: excuse me, the fifteenth week of the season. And you

733
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: hope that the Giant school too well, and what you

734
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: just touched on, you don't know how a lot of

735
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: these teams are gonna play out because we can't predictate

736
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: reason so far. But I think most people who love

737
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: to play the paper test. Jeff. You look at the

738
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: schedule for the Giants, specifically the last four games, Okay,

739
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: two of the four games are in the division, not

740
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: a surprise, That's how the schedule is always structured. And

741
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 1: then you see Tennessee in Indianapolis, Okay to a FC

742
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: opponents in back to back weeks exactly, and who knows.

743
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, those two games could be extremely challenging. Now,

744
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: from a tiebreaker perspective, they're not going to meet anything

745
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: because it's out of conference. But if it comes down

746
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 1: to the nitty gritty in the division or you're battling

747
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: for a wild card spot, yeah, those out of conference

748
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: games could be extremely important. Yeah, And you know it's

749
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 1: it's you don't ever want to look you know, look ahead,

750
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: because when you have playing those division opponents, like you said,

751
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: they do it for a reason. The last month of

752
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: the season, you definitely Oh, I thought that was my

753
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: phone and my phone is ringing. Well, you're an important person.

754
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: We don't want to deprivate the opportunity. So I don't

755
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna be as important oh no, no,

756
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: I get them to no, you're you're not on an island. Yes,

757
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: every day it's a new and And unfortunately, because I

758
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: think everyone pretty much knows that I that I'm in

759
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: the real estate business, I have to answer my phone

760
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: even if because you just don't know, because there's so

761
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: many people that come from from other states that might

762
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: keep their cell phone numbers, so it might say Massachusetts

763
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: or you know, de Mouy in Iowa, I don't know.

764
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: And then I pick it up. I was like, Hi,

765
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: this is Julie. Got that line of credit for six

766
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: million dollars if you want to apply for it like

767
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: that the call I was expecting you. But your robo calls,

768
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: I guess they're called. Yeah, I'm not the only one

769
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: at all. That's good anyways. But back on football, which

770
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: more importantly so you know, so just throw it. We

771
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: cover a little bit everything. By the way, you just

772
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: broke hundred phone numbers, you name it anyway, and and

773
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of golf because I told, I told

774
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: Lance it was I had to. I had to pry

775
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: myself away from the TV watching the US the British

776
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: this morning, which, um, you know, it's kind of if

777
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: you if you do like I do, I don't want.

778
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: I try not to watch a lot of it until

779
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: I can actually watch it. You know, I don't because

780
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, they're so far ahead of time, so I

781
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: don't like to to read about the scores and this,

782
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,360
Speaker 1: and I'd like to watch to watch it, so I

783
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: don't get to I don't want to know who's leading,

784
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: like the equivalency of if your DVRT to game, you

785
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: don't want to look at your phone and everything else.

786
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: I go, and, um, it's I'm a little crazy that way.

787
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: But you know, Sunday morning, I'll be up early, very early,

788
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: watching it, because that's it's hopefully will be. You know,

789
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're gonna get off the subject real quickly.

790
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: But they're hitting fifty yard drive over there, well because

791
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: it's so dry. I mean, it's yeah, sprinklers apparently, because

792
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: when you watch it on TV, everything else is brown

793
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: and there's just little green patches everywhere. Those are the greens,

794
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: and that's it. Yeah, anyways, but by the way, there's

795
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 1: always green on the pitch or the football field, which

796
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: is we're gonna be trying to try to talk a

797
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: little more football. We're apologized. So that was some tie

798
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: in there. Wow, you gave a little soccer reference football,

799
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean gave the whole nine yards a little World

800
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 1: Cup love. I remember caring the word pitch the first

801
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: time I played in in Europe when we were doing

802
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: years and years ago, they used to do with the

803
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: America Can Bowls where teams would go over in preseason

804
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: and play. Uh, they would go play a team in

805
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: London or whatever. This is when they first started learning

806
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: about maybe this might work. And I remember what the bobbies,

807
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: you know, in London they had the police officer are

808
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: called bobbies, and there's their their sticks and the little

809
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: hats and stuff. And the guy says to me, says, oh,

810
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: hell lad you you got heading out to the pitch.

811
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: And I'm like, no, I'm not a picture I'm a punter.

812
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: Does that making? What? What do you need a pitch?

813
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: He go, no, no, you Americans, yea, the pitch, the pitches,

814
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: the field. I'm like, oh, and then in that case, yes,

815
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm heading to the pitch. So that is how I

816
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: learned about the Isn't that funny? Yeah, you're very kids,

817
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: because Americans you don't even know what a field is called. Yeah, right. Well, well,

818
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: you know what, speaking that, I had a whole conversation

819
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: with all my colleagues the fascination with overseas nil. You know,

820
00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: like they can't say nothing it's nil, or they can't

821
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: say zero or or in tennis love you know, I mean,

822
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 1: can we just have nothing or zero? Is there a problem?

823
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: Why do we gotta be so politically correct in all

824
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: these other sports? I never understand that Europeans. Yes, that's

825
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: what We'll return the favor with that to zero. One

826
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Speaker 1: one three is the telephone number hashtag giants chat. You

827
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: want to weigh in on the phones. On Twitter, We've

828
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: got some open lines as we make our way till

829
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: the top of the hour. Speaking of Twitter, we do

830
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: have some questions coming in, so I want to address those,

831
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: and then we will give an opportunity for more and

832
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: more people to send in some questions in comments. So

833
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 1: Lisa at so bad six Statistically, who do you see

834
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: providing more yards? Say Kwan Barkley, Odell Beckham or Evan Ingram,

835
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: just just curious she thinks the answer is going to

836
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,240
Speaker 1: be Barkley. So this is obviously a question about total yards.

837
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 1: This is everything rushing, receiving yards, Barkley Beckham, Evaningram, Well,

838
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: if you're gonna go total yards, I have to go

839
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: with Barkley because he is going to catch the ball

840
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have a lot of yards from scrimmage

841
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: running football. I mean, listen, I can conceivably see Beckham

842
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: going if he's healthy and going over a thousand yards easy. Okay.

843
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: So you know, is sequon Barkley gonna have a thousand

844
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: yards rushing and maybe four hundred yards receiving. There's fourteen hundred.

845
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 1: I would put it between those two would be very close. Yeah,

846
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 1: I don't think Angram. I mean no disrespect to him,

847
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's going to top the team.

848
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: I think certainly he's gonna have an opportunity even put

849
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: up more than he did last year. But it's certainly

850
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: a race between Beckham as well as Barkley. To your point,

851
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm actually I'm looking at Beckham stats right now. I'm curious.

852
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: So his career high fourteen fifty, and that was in

853
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: a season where he played fifteen games, then his other

854
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: two seasons where he's gone over a thousand thirteen oh five,

855
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: thirteen sixty seven. So I becka back to full health.

856
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: You know, the two thousand sixteen season he played sixteen games,

857
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,760
Speaker 1: and then two thousand fourteen, his rookie Arenga played twelve.

858
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: So those two seasons he got over thirteen hundred. The

859
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: fifteen season he got fourteen fifty, which is his career high.

860
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think thirteen fifty four hundred is

861
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: a fair estimate for what he can reasonably do. That's

862
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: why I was thinking that that number there will be

863
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: very close between the two because then you have to

864
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: say to yourself, Okay, does Barkley get to a thousand

865
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: on the ground, And then if he gets to a

866
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: thousand on the ground, okay, then you're talking that four hundred,

867
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: five hundred receiving ballpark. Now, you know, you look at

868
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: what Alvin Kimara and Christian McCaffrey did last year, and

869
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 1: I bring this up time and time again on the show. Now,

870
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: both of them had over eighty receptions, which to me

871
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. It's unheard of. I find it very difficult

872
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: to believe. Jeff, and I know this is more of

873
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: a reception question. There's not necessarily receiving yards, because you

874
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: could get four hundred receiving yards and you don't need

875
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: eighty catchers to do that. I would be stunned if

876
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: Barkley gets in that eighty catch radius because I see

877
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot more talent around Barkley versus what Kimara and

878
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: McCaffrey had around him last year. That's the biggest difference.

879
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: I think. Another interesting comparison if you wanted to see

880
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: who gets closer, and I think that they will be

881
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: very close. Will be the touchdowns. Yeah, that'll be another

882
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: good question, correct because now with Barkley you're getting the

883
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,399
Speaker 1: combo of rushing and receiving touchdown. Beckham is pretty much

884
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: obviously just the receiving touchdowns. And you know Beckham has

885
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: been consistent twelve Yeah, you remove last year because he

886
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: only played four games. So when he's played at least

887
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 1: double digit games, Beckham, he's good for double digits. Barkley,

888
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: who knows? Because you also need to account for Jeff.

889
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: This is the mystery. Is Jonathan Stewart gonna be the

890
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: goal line back? And does that then vulture and eat

891
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 1: away at perhaps Barkley's production within the red zone. Is

892
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: he gonna have to get most of his rushing touchdowns

893
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: from you know, twenty yards out those big, massive runs

894
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: because could he get four received even touchdowns? Absolutely, and

895
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: then if Stewart and Goldman play a role in the

896
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: red zone, maybe that limits four to five, you know,

897
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: so Barkley could finish nine. I mean, I get the

898
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: double digits. Yeah, And I really don't have the answer

899
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: until we kind of get some what I've what this

900
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 1: of what this offense is really, you know, none of

901
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: us know other than the fact that watching what we've

902
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 1: seen in O. T A s and many camps and

903
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: things like that, to how this offense is gonna run.

904
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: But when you look at the field, what they're doing

905
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: now is all about building the offense and repping and

906
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: protections and and routes and coverage all that nobody knows yet,

907
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, so you gotta believe that they're gonna take

908
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: a little bit, not a little bit, but a lot

909
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: of what coach Shermer did in Minnesota. And if you

910
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 1: look at look at how they use the backs out

911
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 1: of the backfield they're catching the football, that will give

912
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:50,320
Speaker 1: you an idea of kind of what se Quon Barkley

913
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: is gonna And even you know, don't get don't be

914
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: surprised if you see Wayne Goldman as a guy that's

915
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: catching the football out of the backfield, because I see

916
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: him as a guy in open space more than an

917
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: up the middle runner like Jonathan Stewart and Sequon Barkley.

918
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: You know, now, obviously he can still run the football

919
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: up the middle, but I think that he when he's

920
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 1: out in space, he's a pretty good player. And remember

921
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 1: when they drafted Wayne Gallman. He isn't he is an

922
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 1: He is really good. And the knack for that goal

923
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: line in the red zone. Remember his thing coming out

924
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: of Clemton was a guy I can score touchdowns. So

925
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: very interesting to see how coach Sherman's gonna design this

926
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 1: offense around. Really, when you look at the backfield, those

927
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: three guys are your people and then all of a

928
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: sudden you have the tight ends. And don't don't forget

929
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: about red Ellison, who also played up in Minnesota with

930
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 1: with coach Sherman. So a lot of good things about

931
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 1: this offense. And you know, I think everybody's excited to

932
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: score some points. I mean this team last year, I

933
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: mean could not score anything. So if they you know,

934
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: if you can score more than nine, team we're gonna

935
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: be happy. Yeah. Well, I think that they certainly are

936
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 1: hoping that they could get into the twenties, which is

937
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: in automatic necessity in today's NFL. I mean, you have

938
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: to be a ball to to get at least points

939
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: to realistically have a shot at winning games. You brought

940
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: up Goldman. You know, not only did he have a

941
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: knack for that it Clemson, but even last year we

942
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: saw a taste of what he could do when he

943
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: does catch the ball out of the backfield, as you mentioned, Jeff,

944
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: because remember he had that receiving touchdown against what was

945
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: I think Tampa Bay early in the season where he

946
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: caught the ball out of the backfield got into the

947
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 1: end zone. So they were utilizing him in that regard.

948
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: They obviously wanted him to show more consistency and pass

949
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: protection because that's the only way you're gonna be on

950
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: the field on those third down situations. And I think

951
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: that that's that's difficult no matter who you are coming

952
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: in your rookie season regardless. So um, it would be

953
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: interesting to see how Sequon Barkley translates that into being

954
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: a rookie in their past protection to now, I would

955
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: imagine that's going to be much better because you know,

956
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: he's the second pick in the draft. Well, and he

957
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: was asked to do things like that in college too,

958
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,720
Speaker 1: which is beneficial. Um I I And I asked this question.

959
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: I don't have the answer is that, you know, how

960
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: much are they really going to use the Quon Barkley

961
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 1: in every as back to this offense? We don't know yet,

962
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think that we

963
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: have we gotta we gotta remember he he this is

964
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: his first he's not he hasn't taken a snap in

965
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: the NFL yet. Okay, yeah, he's playing a Penn State

966
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: and doing all that stuff. When we know that, But

967
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, are you gonna just insert him in there

968
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: and play the dickens out of him and just get

969
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: all you can for him? Or is that why they

970
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: brought Jonathan Stewart in here? Because and and they have

971
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Gallman who's now in the second season. We'll see how

972
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: they kind of move him around and get him into

973
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: the games. And and how much you're playing this in

974
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: the preseason is another thing that I'm interested to see. Well,

975
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: depending on, you know, how much they want to work

976
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: these guys. I think the rookies, it's always important for

977
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: them to get some reps. At the same time, you're

978
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: trying to play the could have, would have, should have game.

979
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: God forbid if somebody gets banged up. So you know,

980
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: that's the balance that you have to throw out there.

981
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: And then people are also gonna point to Odell Beckham

982
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: getting banked up against Cleveland in the preseason and then

983
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: Matt sidelined him. It's the give and take. I always say,

984
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: injuries are a part of the game, Jeff, and think

985
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: that way. You know you're not gonna put anybody on

986
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: the field. They're definitely a part of the game. But

987
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people sometimes think that

988
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: they're more than the part of the game. And then

989
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: and they and they throw caution to the wind, and

990
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 1: I I just I understand it. But I always always

991
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: felt like, if you played not to get hurt, you're

992
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna get hurt big perfect. I think that's well said,

993
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: and that basically sums up the point that I was

994
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: getting at. You can't. You have to have that confident mentality,

995
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: you have that fearful mentality. It's gonna come back to

996
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 1: bite you. Now, there's a difference in in not playing

997
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: a guy because you don't you think you don't want

998
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: him to get hurt. There's also a mentality of guys

999
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: that that aren't ready to play mentally and physically and

1000
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 1: go out there and get hurt. Okay, So, and what

1001
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: I mean by that there are guys out there that

1002
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,360
Speaker 1: they're not in shape or they don't know the fundamental

1003
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 1: then they go out and then they get hurt exactly. Yeah,

1004
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: And that's where you have to protect them from themselves, absolutely,

1005
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: because then you're really gonna get any trouble. But I'm

1006
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: saying that if it's just a matter of well, you

1007
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: want him for week one, but everything else seemed to

1008
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 1: be on pace, then why not give him a few

1009
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: reps on to those circumstances. Now that brings comm to

1010
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham. So you know, here's a here's a guy

1011
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 1: where you know, I think that you know that Odell

1012
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: Beckham doesn't need to play it down to football in

1013
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: those four weeks of reading up to the game to

1014
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,799
Speaker 1: the season, other than the fact that he's gonna want

1015
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: to because he's a football player and he's a competitor

1016
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: and we talk about this all the time, and that

1017
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: he is a worker. The guy works his butt off

1018
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: at practice and does all this stuff. But you know,

1019
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: is is he going to step on the field. Are

1020
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: they gonna let him step on the field. My my

1021
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: answer to that is you have to You have to

1022
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: to a point. Okay. So my my my idea is

1023
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: you play him a lot like Eli Manning. Okay, you

1024
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: gotta give him, you gotta give him, you gotta get

1025
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,439
Speaker 1: back and rust can get that some of that rust

1026
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: off you and get into game shape and get that

1027
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of for the two because you have to be

1028
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: able to do that. You're gonna go into the first

1029
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: game of the season, okay, and playing and not playing

1030
00:52:53,920 --> 00:53:00,120
Speaker 1: any preseason games, games and practice are way different, pressure, speed,

1031
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: everything is there. And so you've gotta have a guy

1032
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: like Odell. You've gotta have him in in some situations

1033
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He's gonna have to play. And I

1034
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,919
Speaker 1: think Beckham clearly in a different boat than a guy

1035
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: like Barkley because Jeff Barkley he hasn't played in And

1036
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: if I'm not comparing the two, no, not that you were,

1037
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: but I'm saying that I wouldn't mind to see Barkley

1038
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: get some additional work before he gets set for week one.

1039
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: As opposed to Beckham, You're right, Yes, games at practices

1040
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: are different, but at this point in Beckham's career, I

1041
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: don't think him playing an extra few snaps at a

1042
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 1: preseason game is going to do a whole lot for

1043
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: the sake of his career, other than obviously he is

1044
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: coming off an injury and you do want him to

1045
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: maybe get a little bit of a taste of a

1046
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: game before he actually starts playing for real. Now, a

1047
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: lot of times you've seen that these guys that don't

1048
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 1: play in the preseason, they come out and they get

1049
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: that preseason they get that pregame workout that they go

1050
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: through just like it's almost like it's not it's not

1051
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: the games and listen, I'm kind of the point is

1052
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: is that you know you you'd like to see a

1053
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: guy get some personally like I I would. I like

1054
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: to play preseason because it gets me ready for the season,

1055
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: and I know that I can in preseason. I could

1056
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: work on things that this has nothing to do with

1057
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: O'Dell Beckham. This is me here. I could work on

1058
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: things in the preseason knowing that it's a preseason game.

1059
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter to me if I kick one

1060
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 1: in the end zone or I put one on the

1061
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: sideline thirty yards when I'm trying to do certain things

1062
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Speaker 1: and the coaches, no, it doesn't count against statistics, doesn't

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Speaker 1: count wins and losses. That's the thing that I liked

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Speaker 1: about preseason games, and also as many years as I played,

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Speaker 1: there was always kind of a still getting into the

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Speaker 1: game mode, your routines and things like that. That is

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Speaker 1: one thing that guys coming out of college have a

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Speaker 1: hard time with because they have their own routines. Every

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Speaker 1: player that plays football college, collegiately, high school, bro they

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Speaker 1: all have their pregame routines with their headphones on and there,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe at the fifty yard line they do

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00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: a backflip before the team. So when I remember going

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Speaker 1: from team to team as a free agent, I had

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Speaker 1: to change up my routine a little bit because it's

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00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: a different atmosphere. These guys come out of college have

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00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: to develop their own new routine coming into the pros,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's a little bit different and they have

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00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: to get used to that. That's what the nice thing

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Speaker 1: about the NFL preseason is that you can get some

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00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: of that routine point care of. You know, those first

1081
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Speaker 1: four games, you get a chance to say, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: I used to do this, but I can't do that now.

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Speaker 1: I got changes and get used to it. And then

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Speaker 1: once the season starts, you kind of had four weeks

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Speaker 1: of getting your routine down. It's all about routine. The

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00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: NFL football players are, or we are just you know,

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Speaker 1: we're routine, routine, routine. We come in the same time

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Speaker 1: of the day, we leave the same time of the day,

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Speaker 1: we eat the same time of the day, we practice

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00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: the same time of the day. Where you know what,

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Speaker 1: at the same time of the day, you do all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff the same time. No, I think

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Speaker 1: you bring up an excellent point, Jev. It's good to

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Speaker 1: test the waters. Absolutely, you gotta do it. You gotta

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Speaker 1: do it. It helps, It helps the players, and it

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Speaker 1: helps them develop that routine going into the season. And

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Speaker 1: and you know, guy likes the Quon Barkley, He's gonna

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Speaker 1: have his routines and you know, hopefully he gets those

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Speaker 1: in order and comes out with like just firing on

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Speaker 1: all cylinders. Because I can't wait for the guy to

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Speaker 1: to play. I just can't wait to watch him play. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are excited to not

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Speaker 1: just see him, but you know, j how this Pat

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00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: Shrummer offense is going to operate with all the different

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00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: personel and I think that, you know, we talk about

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00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 1: the offense so much because you got Odell Beckham and

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00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: Ingram and Shepherd and and Squan. But to me, the

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00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: offense is gonna be fine. I think when you look

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00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: at this defensive side flipping from a four three to

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Speaker 1: a three four and now this this defense is going

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00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: to have a whole nw. I mean, jpp Is is

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Speaker 1: gone and now that you've got uh, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: just a completely different animal, this defense now a new coordinator.

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Speaker 1: I'm more I'm excited to watch the offense play because

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Speaker 1: I think that they can be good. I think this

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Speaker 1: offense can be a top five offense. Okay, I'm just

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00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: a little bit. The defense is going to take a

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00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: little bit, you know. I think that they got to

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Speaker 1: get the scheme down and coach Betcher and all those

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Speaker 1: kind of things, so we'll see what happens. But the defense,

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Speaker 1: I want to see how they how they evolve into

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: this new three four with the personnel that's here. I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, Jeff. And it's interesting because I have some

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: converence Asians on Twitter, and I think sometimes it's fifty fifty.

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Speaker 1: Some fans are fine about the offense, like you and me,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it's automatic they're gonna score

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Speaker 1: thirty points a game, but I think that you at

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Speaker 1: least feel with the guys coming back from injury, the

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Speaker 1: players they drafted Pat Shermer's experience, on paper, things look

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Speaker 1: good and I don't think it's asking for much for

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00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: at least it to translate to the field. With the defense,

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Speaker 1: I think it's much more the land of the unknown.

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00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: And it's not that James Betcher doesn't have experience and

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00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: hasn't been a good defensive coordinator. It's just new personnel.

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00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: It's so much new personnel and the usual suspects are

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00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 1: not here, meaning the guys that got to the quarterback

1137
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: where all your sack production came from last year. Jeff,

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00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: That to me is the biggest mystery right now. Well

1139
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: it is, and I think that that that's a mystery

1140
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: to the football coaches too, because they you know, and

1141
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: you gotta get after the quarterback in the National Football

1142
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: League nowadays. Okay, now they brought overre Ogiltree, Okay, who

1143
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: coach Betcher has seen him play for four years. In

1144
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: that division, so he knows the type of player he has.

1145
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,960
Speaker 1: Karee Martin's a guy they played for coach bet. So

1146
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: those two guys alone are gonna be able to help

1147
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: that defense out. But where is this pressure and sacks

1148
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: gonna come from? That is what I want to see.

1149
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: The third corner is another one. These are kind of

1150
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: some hot topics that are going into training camp that

1151
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: that we got to think about. I think that third

1152
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: cornerback position is going to be interesting exceptively, especially with

1153
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: this new guy bial that they just in a supplemental draft.

1154
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: Don't be surprised if this guy is on the field

1155
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: and plane, Um. I I feel like they're very very

1156
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: high on him. Um. And who is going to be

1157
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 1: that third corner? Okay, the safety position? Where where? Where

1158
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: are these guys gonna play? Um? Who's gonna play where?

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00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: And and and I think that you know, the guys

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Speaker 1: in the middle, I'm not worried about I'm not worried

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Speaker 1: about Snacks and those guys. I think those are fine.

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00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: It's the outside and the linebackers. But for once, and

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Speaker 1: I think you might agree with me, for once in

1164
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: a long long time, I feel that this linebacker crew

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00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: has some speed now that can cover, can cover and

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00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: can cover and they're athletic, Okay, And that's what's exciting

1167
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: to me about the defense is just watching some of

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00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: these linebackers run and make athletic plays. No, I think

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00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. Ogul Tree's arrival, Pete J. Goodson

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Speaker 1: coming back from injury and his upside. You know, those

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Speaker 1: are two guys in particular that I think everybody is

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Speaker 1: very interested to see how well they mentioned, you know,

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00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: the ability to move sideline to sideline, which has not

1174
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: been necessarily consistent facet of this team, and that plays

1175
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Speaker 1: into also stopping the run, which is going to be

1176
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: extremely imported. In addition to all this Sack talked out,

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Speaker 1: we discuss I think the one guy, if he can

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Speaker 1: stay healthy in this system, who I think will flourish,

1179
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: is going to be your FA. I think he were

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need him, Jeff, They're gonna he's He's arguably

1181
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: the most proven commodity in the past rushing gun. I

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Speaker 1: I feel that coach Betcher. Coach Betcher is a coach Okay,

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00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: He's a guy that will take the line, He'll take

1184
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: the roster, and he's gonna he's gonna basically scheme defenses

1185
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: around the personnel and let them put them in the

1186
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: best positions to make plays. If you go back and

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: look at what he did in Arizona, that is what

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Speaker 1: he does. He doesn't just say we're gonna run this

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Speaker 1: three four and I need this and you're gonna learn how.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna say, listen, I'm taking you off the field

1191
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 1: on this on these situations because this is not what

1192
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: you do well. He adapts to the personnel and forces

1193
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Speaker 1: him and take you off because you know, and that's

1194
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that you're a bad player. I'm just

1195
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: telling you that I don't like you in this situation. Okay,

1196
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: so play for me the other downs. But that's what

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Speaker 1: he's gonna do and it's gonna be interesting to see.

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Speaker 1: It will be. We will continue to break down the

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Speaker 1: Giants tomorrow on the latest edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna preview our final team. Giants are gonna

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Speaker 1: be facing the in and we will be talking about

1202
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Speaker 1: one Mr Luck tomorrow and yes, I'm sure we will,

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Speaker 1: as his health will be a big talking point on

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Speaker 1: tomorrow's edition to Big Blue Kickoff Live. Thanks everybody for

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Speaker 1: tuning in for Jeff Eagles on Lance Men. Enjoy the

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Speaker 1: rest of your Thursday and we'll speak to tomorrow on

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Speaker 1: giants dot com. Have a god one,