1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up, 2 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: straight Fire Fan, It's me Jason McIntyre. This is Straight 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: Fire for Thursday, October eighth, and what a podcast we 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 1: have today for you. A super duper special guest, big 5 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: time former Highsman Trophy winner, college football legend, so the 6 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: Capitol l got drafted in the NFL. He now is 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: on TV at Fox. Matt Leiner lives near me. Good dude, 8 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: We talk um. We talked about USC a lot and 9 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: college football. There's a lot on the table end for 10 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: the hashtag dad life folks out there. He has a 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: young superstar athlete, and we talk a little bit about 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: how parents in the current environment are handling their kids. 13 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: It's it's pretty cool. I think you guys will like it, 14 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: even if you're not a big college football fan. Matt 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Liner very smart individual. I think you'll really really enjoy it. 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: But first briefly before we get to line it, and 17 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: also there will be a best bet at the end 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: of the podcast on Packers Cardinals. What was gonna be 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: a phenomenal Thursday night football game. I mean this is 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: circled on the calendar for weeks and now No Davante 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Adams and we just got word J J. Watt season 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: ending surgery. What the hell I mean? J J. Watt 23 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: has been so unlucky with injuries the last few years. Um, 24 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: it still should be a good one. I definitely have 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: some money on this game, more than a usual Thursday 26 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: night play. Let's just say that. And I again, I 27 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: know you guys want to hear from Liner. I just 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: want to do a quick, brief, very brief moment on 29 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: the Lakers meltdown in okay See. And I'm sure some 30 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: of you are like Jay, you're talking way too much 31 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: about the Lakers. I just want to say we've seen 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: the October numbers their up year over you remember the 33 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: podcast just started last August. Guys, thank you very much 34 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: for subscribe, rating and reviewing, especially all the l A people. 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: And you guys want Laker content. That's very evident, and 36 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: guess what They're gonna provide a lot of it, because 37 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: right now, the Lakers stay. They were up twenty six 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: points without Lebron against the winless okay See Thunder. The 39 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: Lakers proceed to play zero defense in the second half 40 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: and they get their doors blown off. The Lakers lose 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: in okay See two. Not quite the G League thunder, 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: but they're bad outside of s g A. Darius Basley 43 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: hit I think as many three pointers in the game 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: as Russell Westbrook has hit all season, and this was 45 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: not a good Westbrook game. He ended up getting ejected 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: at the end because he was upset that and I 47 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: think it was basically stolen and bounced passed with like 48 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: five seconds left and dunked and then hung on the 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: rim for effect. Dude, you're at home, you're celebrating, Sure 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: you can hang on the rim, and come on, what 51 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: do you, Russ? What on earth are you arguing? You 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,519 Speaker 1: were just frustrated, this is this was your return to 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: okay see, and you stunk up the joint. Russ did 54 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: have a triple double, which everyone will herald. Oh, you 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,079 Speaker 1: got a triple double with the Lakers team high minus twelve, 56 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: ten turnovers. And just for everybody who loves us of Westbrook, 57 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: everybody who loves this guy. He is now on the 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: season four on three pointers. He can't shoot free throws either. 59 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: He's below And this is a guy that the Lakers 60 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: were expecting to come in when Lebron and a d 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: are out and carry them to some winds like he 62 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: did with the Wizards last year. Russ playing out of 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: his mind. Well, I mean again, there's a lot of 64 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: new parts with the Lakers. I'm not jumping off the bridge. 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: I did put out some joking Instagram stories about uh 66 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: image of Lebron at the game on his phone, and 67 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: I joked that he was texting the King's GM to see, hey, um, 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: can we get Buddy healed for Russell Westbrook. Obviously a joking, 69 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: but it's funny. But at this point, right, I mean, 70 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: Russ is struggling, and you know clearly it's very early, 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: there is no need to panic, but you blew a 72 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: lead to the windless thunder, and that's like, what are 73 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: you doing? James Worthy of the former Laker Laker Great 74 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: unloaded on the Lakers after the game, and listen, they're 75 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: two and three. They have Cleveland and Houston up next 76 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: in the next three games. They'll be fine. They get revenge, 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: a four game homestand against Okay. See, they will clean 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: up their act in the next four games, no doubt 79 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: about that. Now, if they lose like two of these, 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: I think we got some problems because Lebron should be back. Um, 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 1: But again, it's just the Lakers are going to provide 82 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: content for this podcast. Thank you, l A. All right, 83 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: without further ado, Let's get to the man, the myth, 84 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:37,799 Speaker 1: the legend. Matt Liner. Jason likes to think he knows 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports. I know what sports 86 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: stands want, but for everything he doesn't, he knows a 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: guy who does. Let's just say I know a guy 88 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: who knows a guy who knows another guy. Let's welcome 89 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: into straight fire. A true legend in college football. I mean, listen, 90 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: I know he's gonna hate that I'm talking about him 91 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: like he's a legend, but I mean, I just went 92 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: through all the numbers. Come on, this guy is a 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: a true USC trojan. You played in the NFL. I 94 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: work with him in Fox. I've tried to get him 95 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: to play pick up basketball with me. Matt Leinert, Uh, Matt, 96 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: how are you man? I'm good. First of all, I'd 97 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: love to play hoops with you. It's just the time 98 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: of day and the day of the week you do it. 99 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's hard. Man. I got two babies 100 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: at home, so I'm yeah, I'm getting told in nineteen 101 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: different directions right now. But once the season is over. Man, 102 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get back, get on the get on 103 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: the hardwood and play some ball and missplaying basketball. Yeah, 104 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: big newon Kickoff. Obviously you're traveling a lot for the show. 105 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: You got a good one this weekend. Huh. Yeah. Michigan 106 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: Michigan State. I mean a rivalry. I mean two teams 107 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: that hate each other, which is awesome. Um and and 108 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: just I mean, look in the landscape of college football 109 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: is you know, there's you know, the big tennis is 110 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: crazy right now, and this is kinda this weekend with 111 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan Michigan State. You're kind of 112 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of weed some of these teams out as far 113 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: as the playoff is concerned. But this some big one. 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: Both teams really haven't been tested to this point. Um, 115 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say so this one a 116 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: lot of implications, and the fact that it's a rivalry 117 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: game makes it bigger. Man. It's gonna be fun, It's 118 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: gonna be up the big tense crazy. I was actually 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: trying to look at gambling on Iowa Wisconsin. Have you 120 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: seen a total for that show? Getting ready for a 121 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: gambling sponsorship? Huh. I'm trying. Man, I'm trying to be 122 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: like you. You know, um, that has to be the 123 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: lowest number of this season, right, I haven't seen anything lower. 124 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: That's crazy, and I might take the under. I don't know. 125 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen a lot of these teams. Dude, 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: come on, these guys are I know they're they're They're 127 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: both really bad offensively and both are incredible defenses. I 128 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: don't know though, that's like you scored if they scored 129 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: touchdown early, like it's so you know, so like it's 130 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: it's um. But yeah, I saw that number. I was like, wow, 131 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to talk to us with you. 132 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: I will just point this out. After the Iowa loss, Um, 133 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Wisconsin's like back in the mix 134 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: to get to the big tent title game. That's how great. 135 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: And they've been terrible. I mean that they're almost unwatchable. 136 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: The West is nuts because no one saw I'll say 137 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: this I did. I wouldn't have said Perdue was gonna 138 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: beat Iowa, but I was just kind of like, we 139 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: just felt like at some point this offense is going 140 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: to have to do something to win a game. And 141 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: that was the game. And obviously they couldn't get the 142 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: job done. But Minnesota is in the driver's seat, which 143 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: is crazy. Um, they're playing really good football, especially after 144 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: their first game against Ohio State. You know, Ibrahim goes down, 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: their best running back, stud goes down, and you're thinking, gosh, 146 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna be a tough year. They've done a 147 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: really good job. P J. Flex done a great job 148 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: with that team. Um, Wisconsin is in the mix. Obviously 149 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: at Iowa was still in the mix. So, UM, listen, 150 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's gonna be whoever 151 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: comes out, probably playing Ohio State, and UM, to me, 152 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: in Ohio State is the best team the Big Ten 153 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: at this point. Um, but a lot of a lot 154 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: of these you know, next cople of weeks will tell 155 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: for sure who kind of comes out of those divisions. Um. 156 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: So the landscape of college football is a little wacky. 157 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: But I do want to quickly talk about a quarterback 158 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: before we get to USC. UM the situation with Spencer 159 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: Rattler in Oklahoma. Okay, it's funny. I was reading about 160 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: your history, Matt, and at one point you know you 161 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: were gonna win the starting job at USC but there 162 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: was a kid John David Booty who was coming in 163 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be awesome. What you could talk about 164 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: that in the second But I'm can you put yourself 165 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: in the head of Spencer Rattler, who got all this 166 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: name image like this money talked about as the first 167 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: pick maybe in the draft, Heisman favorite. Now there's talking 168 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: like is he gonna transfer like Matt. It's just I've 169 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: never seen anything like this. I don't think it's strange 170 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: and and you know it's it's even before sorry, even 171 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: before John David Booty. So I just said, I talked 172 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: about this on the show last week. I was really close. 173 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: I don't remember how close, but transferring came, you know, 174 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: popped in my mind when Carson Palmer came act. So 175 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: this was before JDB was there before or when Carson 176 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: came back for a senior year. Because a lot of 177 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: people don't know this, I was almost gonna play my 178 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: true freshman year and burned my red shirt at that 179 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: time because Carson was struggling Pete's first year. I was 180 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: kind of the recruit that came in. They wanted to 181 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: give me a chance, and thank god I didn't go 182 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: in and burn my red shirt year. So when he 183 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: came back. I was battling with Matt Castle and a 184 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: couple of other guys, but the thought of transferring just 185 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: it entered my mind, and my family were talking about it. UM. 186 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: But you know, no one really transferred as often back then, 187 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: and I'm glad obviously I stayed and it all worked out, 188 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: and then I'm putting myself in spencer shoes and just 189 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: the kids these days, I probably would have transferred if 190 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: if that was fast forward to now, because of the 191 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: portal and just because it's so easy to go down 192 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: to another school and try and play. UM. It's really 193 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: interesting because you talked about it preseason. Heisman favorite he 194 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 1: bawled last year. I mean, he's still very talented. Was 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: just I'm gonna put that out there. But Caleb Williams 196 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: and just what he brings to that offense is a 197 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: lot of what we've seen from Oklahoma in the last 198 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: couple of years. And the bar was set so high. 199 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: So when Spencer Rattler wasn't playing great, but it wasn't 200 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: all his fault, it just was different than what we've 201 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: seen and what really Oklahoma fans and college football has 202 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: seen Caleb comes in and balls out and and and 203 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: clearly their offense has made way more explosive, way more dynamic, 204 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: his running ability, everything. Kind of what we saw with 205 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: Kyler and Jalen Hurts is what Caleb Williams springs that offense. Um, 206 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's it's a it's an awkward, I 207 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: think place to be in. You're you're making money on 208 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: n I l um, you know you you had all 209 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: of these, you know, accolades and awards coming into season. 210 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: It's just not working your way. I think it's gonna 211 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: be very important for Spencer Rattler to one not kind 212 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: of you know how and I don't know the situation all, 213 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: but not how be a good teammate because at some point, 214 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: like you're probably gonna be asked to come in and 215 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: play and win a game. And if Kayleb Williams gets 216 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: goes down by the way, you're going in and your 217 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: team is still undefeated in the mix for a playoffs. 218 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: So there's a lot at stake there. So it's really 219 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: hard to do that as a quarterback, especially when you 220 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: get benched. I didn't. I was benched in the NFL 221 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: by Kurt with Kurt Warner came in and it was 222 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: hard for me not to go in the tank and 223 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: in um So, so that's something that um, Lincoln Riley 224 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: and Spencer Rattling, they're just gonna have to do a 225 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: good job of just staying focused and staying in the game. Um. 226 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: But as far as transferring, yeah, I mean, look, I 227 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: think there's no question he's gonna be gone. I mean, 228 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's the smart decision. And he's got a 229 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: chance to I don't even want to say resurrect himself, 230 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: but he's got a chance to go somewhere else and 231 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: prove why he still has an opportunity to get drafted 232 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: very high. He still has the lead ar and talent. 233 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 1: He's a good player, um, and maybe he goes to 234 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: a system or fit that's just kind of kind of 235 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: more conducive to his skill set. You know, he's not 236 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: he's not running. He's not a runner. You know, that's 237 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: just not what he is. Um. And that's kind of 238 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: what Oklaoma likes to use with their quarterback. So yeah, 239 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a really interesting situation where we haven't seen 240 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: a guy with all of these accolades get benched and 241 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's making tons he's making I 242 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: don't know how much money. He's making a lot of money. 243 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: And then I l um, and now he's probably not 244 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna be at that school in the next couple of months. 245 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: It's weird, you know, the way the way you framed it, 246 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, Matt, we all faced these like tests in 247 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: life and how you handle it. And imagine if you 248 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: would burn your red shirt. I'm sure you wanted to 249 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: as a as a young kid, right, it was like, 250 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I gotta get in there. I'll never forget it was 251 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: at Arizona. There was my my family was going to 252 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: drive out to the game because it was gonna be 253 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: my first playing time. Um, and yeah, I just I'm 254 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: glad it didn't happen. You know, clearly everything works out, 255 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: the paths work out. And look what we we talked 256 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: about the transfer portal, and and it's it has it's 257 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: had great stories and it's had not so great stories. 258 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: And you look at Joe Burrow obviously one of the 259 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: best best examples of that. Justin fields is a great example. 260 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: Every Oklahoma quarterback is a great example, right, I mean 261 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 1: the list goes on, and not just quarterbacks but other 262 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: skill players and other positions. But it. You also look 263 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: at Mac Jones and what he did. He stayed and 264 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: he was a first round draft pick and and now 265 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: he's having a great rookie year and you want to 266 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: want a national championship. So look Spencer Raller. It's a 267 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: little different scenario. There's a true freshman that just took over. 268 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: He's going to be there for a couple of years. 269 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: He's the guy for that job in my opinion. So 270 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: Spencer has a decision to make. But it's really important 271 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: for him to stay focused, keep his head up and 272 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: be a good teammate and be ready to ball because 273 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: we all know guys go down and and he's he's 274 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: right there back in the mix of the starting quarterback. 275 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: It's weird. I want to ask, like, how who did 276 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: you talk to about that? With your situation back in 277 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: the day, Like I'm sure part of you wanted to 278 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: go in. I mean in my own circumstance, like I 279 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,200 Speaker 1: was on a TV show here at F one for 280 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: a couple of years. All of a sudden, this guy 281 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 1: wants to shove me off the show and I could 282 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: have easily melted down and men like that's just garment, 283 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: And I just was like you know what, maybe this 284 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: is the best thing. And Maddick turned out to be incredible. 285 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: I don't have to put up with that headache anymore. 286 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: But like, how is you as a teenager because again, 287 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, rattlers what not? Maybe twenty years old? Yeah, 288 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: it was, you know, I don't remember. I think it 289 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: was just a full I think it was Pete Carroll. 290 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: I think it was Norm Chow was the O C 291 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: and I remember him talking to me and saying, you know, 292 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: I think you know, we want to give you an 293 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to play this week. And I'm almost positive Pete 294 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: they just decided not to do it, or maybe there 295 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: was a time in the game where it didn't work 296 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 1: because I was prepared. I took first team reps. I 297 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: think that week um and really the only people I 298 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: told my parents and at the time, you know, it 299 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: felt like the right thing to do is getting a 300 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: chance to play, so um and and and clearly, I mean, 301 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Carson was was so talented. It was it was just 302 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: a weird. It was Pizz's first year, so it was 303 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: it was. It was Obviously the rebuilding only took a 304 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: year because the next year he won the Heisman. Who 305 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: won the Orange Bowl. But um, Carson was so talented. 306 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: It just we were, you know, new offense, new coaches, 307 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: new skiing, all of those things. So I'm so glad 308 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: it didn't happen clearly. I mean, like my career might 309 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: have went a different path and maybe I never played 310 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: at USC, but um, you know, those things happened for 311 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: a reason. So Rattler and just other guys, I mean, 312 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: you just you got to kind of make the best 313 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: decision for yourself. But um, you know, and I think 314 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: for him at this point, I think it is going 315 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: somewhere else because he understands the quarterback situation there in Oklahoma. 316 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: So you said you stayed at US thirty seven, and 317 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: two things kind of worked out. Fox Sports Radio has 318 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all 319 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: of our shows at Fox Sports Radio dot com and 320 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: within the I Heart Radio app search f s R 321 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: to listen live. All right, now, you brought up Pete Carroll, 322 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: So Matt, you know how the industry works, right, Everybody 323 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: wants to come up with an angle to take. If 324 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: you're right, great, If you're wrong, who cares? Move on? 325 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: So you know, this week I heard all the Carson 326 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Palmer talking about Mike Tomlin isn't and I'm Mike Tomlin 327 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: the product the Carson. But that came out of left 328 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: field and by Tomlin shot it down pretty bad heart 329 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: which was which was that was a great sound bite, 330 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: something that was amazing. Uh. Let's so I'm sitting here 331 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: and I'm watching Seattle. I'm like, what is Pete Carroll doing? 332 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: Like he's seventy? This team is going nowhere, They're dead. 333 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson wants out, Why wouldn't Pete Carroll think about 334 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: going back to USC? Before you laugh? Hold on, hold on, Matt, No, 335 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm not laughing. Oh okay, alright. Uh So Nick Saban 336 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: is in the seventies at Alabama. He knows his old 337 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: school style of defense and run the ball. That don't work. 338 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: That's not getting the big time recruits. So he brings 339 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: in these great offensive minds, the best offensive coaches they 340 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: get used it as a springboard to next head coaching jobs. 341 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Why can't Pete Carroll try to do something like that 342 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: at USC? Would it not make sense to try to 343 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: resurrect what he had? Because Matt I looked it up 344 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: when he was at USC, seven straight top five finishes, 345 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: seven they would have been on the playoffs every year 346 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: if there was a playoff. You know, it's a good question, Um, 347 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: I think, and I'm speaking on my this is my opinion. One, 348 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: he's older. I mean, I know, saving seventy, but look, 349 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: I think Saban's got a good two three four years 350 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: left and he's probably rides off into the sunset. I 351 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: mean at some point, you gotta at some point, I mean, 352 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: you're you're in your midst. What we keep saying about 353 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, you know, listen, Tom Brady is a whole 354 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: different animal. Um. And the same with Pete. You know, 355 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: I think it's it's safe to say, you know, time's 356 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: kind of running out in Seattle for Pete and just 357 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: that organization and what they've done and Pete did, I mean, 358 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: he was wonderful there. Um. Look, it is much different 359 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: now coaching college football than it was back in fifteen 360 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: years ago or to two thousand's when he was there. 361 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: And I just can't imagine Pete coming back to USC 362 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: and having to deal with everything that you have to 363 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: deal with now, and and and just regards of N 364 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: I L and just the way there's a lot more 365 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: in the transfer portal, and there's a lot more that 366 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: a head coach has to do. Then just before you 367 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: kind of recruiter, you have your recruiters go out and 368 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: you and you and you run to school and then 369 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: you have control. You really don't have a lot of 370 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: a lot of control in college football anymore as a 371 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: head coach, and especially this is just the tip of 372 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: the iceberg with the n I L I mean this, 373 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this thing is going to continue to grow 374 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: and all of those things, and with the players having 375 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: more of a voice down, which I think is great. Um, 376 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: it's just a lot more to deal with as a 377 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 1: head coach. I think. I think it's a really interesting 378 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: time to be a head coach in college football. So 379 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,239 Speaker 1: I just can't imagine a seventy three, seventy four year 380 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: old Pete Carroll coming back to USC and trying to 381 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, like like what he's gonna come back for 382 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: two years and like, I just don't see that. I 383 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: see him. I know something about p I know he's 384 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: you know, wanted to be a professor at USC. I 385 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: think that's something that could be in the future for him. 386 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,959 Speaker 1: And I know he does a lot with with with 387 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: USC and as far as their entrepreneurial school and all that. Know, 388 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: some guys over there, so that's maybe a path, but 389 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't see it. Man, I really don't think he's 390 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: too old for that. I don't think he wants to 391 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: deal with all of this stuff that that you have 392 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: to deal with out college football. So why don't we 393 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: fast forward to what the hell they should do? Because 394 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: it seems like there there's a lot. I mean, it's 395 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: like a tug of war. Everybody has their guy they 396 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: want to put in. I'm sure you know, the Booster situation, 397 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: there's kind of sort of crazy. They have the academic 398 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: scandal with you know, the getting kids in under false pretenses. 399 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot happening. And you know, I looked at 400 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: the recruiting classes, Matt, I didn't realize it was this Stark. 401 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm assuming they were recruiting against Clay Hilton. But the 402 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: last two years USC zero five star kids, no top 403 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: fifteen classes. But if you go back to ten, they 404 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: had five five star kids, including you know J. T. 405 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: Daniels now at Georgia and then a guy who's a 406 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: wide receiver st Brown in the NFL. But you know, 407 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: they got to kind of pick up recruiting at this point, 408 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: like it's got to be a big name, right do they? Well, yeah, 409 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: I mean the biggest thing is is the top players 410 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: in California, in particular Southern California have all left. And 411 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: the one thing that that Pete did and and was 412 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna own our backyard. And and again this is 413 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: you know, this is fifteen years ago, so I mean, 414 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: it wasn't like it's fi two years ago. You have 415 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: to own your backyard, because I would argue, I mean, 416 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: you have you have modern day St. John Bosco survey, which, 417 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: by the way, is that moder date survey there, right? 418 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: That was his high level of high school game I've seen. 419 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: You have three of the top ten teams in the 420 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: country and other great you know, other really good schools 421 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: around Los Angeles. You have maybe the best kind of 422 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: recruiting pot of kids within fifty miles of your school, 423 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, Texas. Obviously there's some other great recruiting areas 424 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: South Florida, but you have some of the best there 425 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: is and there are tons of big time talent, and 426 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: all of those kids would go to USC. It wasn't 427 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: even a question. You own that, and then you go 428 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: out you poach kids from here and there, Florida, Texas 429 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: whatever they remember. Irban Meyer had this conversation with me. 430 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: He's like, when I was in Florida, we didn't touch 431 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: l A because Pete had that. We did not even 432 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: go out there, and we had great players coming out 433 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: of the state. Now, when Pete left and and you know, 434 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: Clay Helton had the tenure and they're going through a 435 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: lot of stuff, sark and killing all those guys. People 436 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: now just come in and are just rating Southern California 437 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: because because the USC failed to protect their their backyard, 438 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: and that's where it all starts. I mean, you look 439 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: at Bryce Young, d J. You at Clemson, you look 440 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: at Um. You know you've mentioned j T. Daniels. He's 441 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: gone now. Obviously injuries and things happen in circumstances, but 442 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: all of the top players are leaving because they want 443 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: to they want to compete for championships, and they want 444 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: to get developed to play in the NFL period, and 445 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: the USC is not doing that. So um, that is 446 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: a big kind of checkmark and to do list for 447 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: the next coaches. Hey, like, whoever it is, we have 448 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,719 Speaker 1: to go back and recruit and own Southern California because 449 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: you build your roster around that. There's a lot of 450 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: great players. And it's not just quarterbacks, man, it's not 451 00:21:54,800 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: just receivers and quarterbacks. There's a great lineman, there's great linebackers. Um, 452 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, Oregon is getting all these guys too, and 453 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: so so the recruiting angle is huge, and that's huge 454 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: for any top program. You get those kids. Look n 455 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: I L L A Hollywood, you know, the entertainment aspect, 456 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's not the end all, be all for USC, 457 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: but it's a major advantage for us in the n 458 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: I L if they do it right, you know. So, Um, 459 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: it's a big time job. So we'll see. I mean, 460 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: can James Franklin be the guy to build a fence 461 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: around this area? I mean he's you know, I hate 462 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: the whole is your regional fit like that's a college 463 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: basketball thing. But is the guy who's spent a lot 464 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: of his career in the Northeast in Pennsylvania. Um, it's 465 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: not like he's got a rich history of putting quarterbacks 466 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: or skill position guys in the NFL. There've been a 467 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: couple and obviously they get great players. But what are 468 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Franklin And I'm not trying to pin 469 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: you down. I know it's I think, yeah, I think this. 470 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of options. Clearly, his name 471 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: has been right up there at the top of the 472 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: list at USC. And in regards to James, I know 473 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: him personally, love him. I think he's I think he's 474 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: a great, great guy. He's a really good football coach. Um, 475 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: you know people you know, people can talk about And 476 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: he hasn't won a championship. Well, listen, you know in USC, 477 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: you're not dealing with Ohio State every year. And in 478 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: Ohio States, it's just tough. It's tough to win that division. 479 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: And and and he's won a Big Ten championship a handful 480 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: of years ago and then they ended up losing to 481 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: Sam Donald and has seen the Rose Bowl game. But um, 482 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: James got a good personality. Uh, he's he's a good recruiter. 483 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: I think they have a top I think they might 484 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: have just lost somebody this week, but they have a 485 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: top five class next year. Um. But the whole regional thing, like, 486 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: there's some there's some there's some coaches out there, and 487 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: there's when you say, wow, that just doesn't make sense 488 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 1: from a from a from a region standpod, or for 489 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: a personality standpoint. But listen, if you're a good coach, 490 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: you understand what it takes to win. I don't really 491 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: care personally as a trojan, I just want the best 492 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: guy for the job that can go out there. Um, 493 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: he can get the players that we need to rebuild 494 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: this program. Um. But the thing with James is, you know, 495 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: look that they lost a really tough one last week 496 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: against Illinois, and then the schedule. You know, you got 497 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State this week, you still have Michigan, Michigan State. 498 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you know, if they lose three 499 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: or four games, you know, is that the luster has gone, 500 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: so to speak. It doesn't take away from him, It 501 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: just as far as from the fan base and what 502 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: USC wants. So it's an interesting one. But I love 503 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: James Franklin. Um, he's a really good coach. He's a 504 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: really really good guy. Um. I think he I think 505 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: he's an obviously good fit for USC. But again there's 506 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: you know, this is gonna be a process. You know. 507 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: I I speak to uh, you know people at USC 508 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: in regards to this, and this will be a thorough 509 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: um process. That's gonna take a lot of time, you know, 510 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: And I know people want to see who it's gonna be, 511 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: but they gotta get this one right. You know, this 512 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: one's important. Um. You know we saw U c l 513 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: A Hoops. They brought in Mick Cronin, uh for he 514 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: was a Cincinnati and all I heard out here, Wash, 515 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: that's a terrible fit. I mean m Crownin, he's like 516 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: this blue collar guy. He's not gonna work in l A. 517 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, Final four they're absolutely loaded this year. So 518 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: that the whole regional thing, I'm with you. I tossed 519 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: it out the window. I want to ask a dad 520 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: life question. You've got a young kid who's a potential 521 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: big time athlete, and we have a lot of dads 522 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: who listened to the pod because I'm now a dad 523 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: who coaches my kids. Um, you know, I went back 524 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: and looked at the recruiting services. When you were coming 525 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: out of high school, you were the fourth pro style 526 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: quarterback behind guys who you may or may not remember, 527 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: Brodie Croyle remember him Alabama? Derek Anderson, Derek Anderson and 528 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: then Joe Mauer who was a catcher. Put could have 529 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: gone to F s U. But I just wonder about 530 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: these rankings, and we're seeing him earlier and earlier, Matt, 531 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, sixth grade, seventh grade, Like I just does 532 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: this hurt more than it helps? Because I know it's 533 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: gonna open doors for some kids. But I've seen personally 534 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: kids you know, my son's agent older who were like, 535 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: oh man, did you see I'm like the eighth best 536 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: kid in the scoring and all this stuff like that, 537 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: they're not gonna work as hard matter? Am I talking 538 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: about a pocket here? No, that's it's a great point. 539 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: It makes me. It scares me for sure, and it 540 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: makes me nervous. I think it's a necessary evil. As 541 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: as you said, it's it's helped a lot of kids. 542 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: It creates exposure for yourself. It's it's it's the way 543 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 1: kids are being recruited now and as since through social 544 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: media and them posting, which which I don't I hate. Um, 545 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: I don't like it. But you have to adapt. You 546 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: have to kind of understand. It's just like it's like 547 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: good coaching, like good like you have old school coaches 548 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: are still in the two early two thousands or nineties. 549 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: It's not gonna work when you're coaching these kids now, 550 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: like ine, So you have to be able to adapt 551 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: and adjust to the times. What's your point about just 552 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: my son in particular, you know, he's fifteen, and I 553 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: do worry because when you start, you know, you start 554 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: to go on Twitter and social media and you see 555 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: these sites, you know, recruiting you and hey, dad and 556 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: my you know, do you think I can get get all? 557 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: Because you see kids getting offered scholarships like at twelve 558 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: and Lane Kiffin did that years ago, but now it's 559 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: becoming a regular thing. Um, it really does fear me 560 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: that they lose you know, they lose sight of what 561 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: the goal is, and they lose sight of what it 562 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 1: actually takes to become great or and to fulfill your 563 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: dream and all that stuff. Like when you start reading 564 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: that stuff at a young age and you start you know, 565 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: listening to all that stuff, you just become entitled. And 566 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: even a lot of these kids, I've been around a 567 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: lot of high school kids, they're they're more they care 568 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: more about you know, their recruiting visit, putting on their 569 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: uniform and how they look, and then what Instagram posts, 570 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: then going out there and just saying like you know, 571 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: going out maybe getting an extra film session and you know, 572 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: I'm just talking here, but like it, it is a concern. 573 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: It's it's high school coaches concerned, it's college coaches concerned. 574 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: That's part of the reason why I said, I don't know, 575 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: I Pete Carroll would want to deal with that, but yeah, 576 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: it's a worry. And I think all you can do 577 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: is a dad is just in a sport, dad, and 578 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: you're involved in all that, like, just continue to have them, 579 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, to try and just keep their eye on 580 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: the prize. With my son Cole, I tell him all 581 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: the time, I said, listen, like you have as much 582 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: talent as anyone, and and that I've seen at your 583 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 1: age and what you want to do and what you 584 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: want to become. But the distractions are what's going to 585 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: deter you from being the best you can be in 586 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: Distractions are snapchat are um, hey dad, I'd rather go 587 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: to the beach, and hey, I'd rather do this, and 588 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: and and that's just in his life. That's just what 589 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: it is. And especially you and I, you know, we 590 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: live in the South Bay and you live in Manhattan Beach, 591 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: and you've got a great life and a great lifestyle. 592 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: It's very easy to get complacent here and that's why 593 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 1: I've always told him, like, like, there's thousands of kids 594 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: that are just as good as you, that you know, 595 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: are working maybe harder than you, And what are you 596 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna do to elevate your game? Because it's not just 597 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: like hey dad, I'm gonna be six five, I'm good, 598 00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: you know, I want to go here, Like it's not. 599 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: It does a work that way. So it's a great 600 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: it's a great question. It's really hard, um, but all 601 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: you can do is just provide them. My whole thing 602 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: is like I'm gonna do everything I can in my 603 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: power to um, try and make him successful. And whether 604 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: that's driving him an hour to workouts, or whether that's 605 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: trying to get training for him, and I know not 606 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: everyone can do that, or it's spending time with them 607 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: here in the backyard doing footworks of like, I'm gonna 608 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: do everything I can to put him in a position 609 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: to be successful, and then it will be it will 610 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: be up to him to go out there and push 611 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: himself even more so. But yeah, it's a challenging time. 612 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: It is raising, you know, athletic kids and kids who 613 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 1: want to play sports because it's there's so many distractions. 614 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: Father of the year. Matt Liner, also former USC quarterback. Alright, Matt, Hey, 615 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for taking the time, and we'll watch 616 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: a big newon Kickoff. You'll be all over the place 617 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: obviously throughout the fall. Awesome, Jason, thanks for having meybody 618 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: appreciate it man. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports 619 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows 620 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Radio dot com, um and within the 621 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 622 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: The only thing better than sitting on your couch watching 623 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,719 Speaker 1: the game. He's making money while you do it. Here's 624 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: your best bat. Just tremendous stuff from the legend Matt Liner. 625 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: Matt Liner kind of lives near me. I worked with him. 626 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Super nice guy. When you meet him, you know, he's 627 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: his big six five dude walking around and you look 628 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: at him and you're instantly reminded, Oh, that's right. This 629 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: guy was eight superstar in college football, like top ten 630 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Bick and the I think it was ten or eleven 631 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL draft And my favorite Liners story, So 632 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: Notre Dame is playing USC. It's the Bush push game. 633 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: And my girlfriend at the time and I who now 634 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: became my wife, we were celebrating like our one year anniversary, 635 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: and we went out to the swanky restaurant in Brooklyn. 636 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: And this was back way before iPhones and incredible phones 637 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: with all that stuff. I was taking the girlfriend out 638 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: for our one year anniversary and the game was I 639 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: was recording it on ti vo, but of course this 640 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: game is going over and I didn't set the tvo 641 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: to record, you know, the extra hour it took. So 642 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm watching as much as I can before we leave, 643 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my gosh, this game is incredible. 644 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: How USC's losing. I can't. They've won like thirties games 645 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: in a row or whatever, and it's just an awesome game. 646 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: And we're at the restaurant and you know, the when 647 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: you're anniversary, we don't really like there's those little TVs 648 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: in this sized restaurant. I think it was I don't 649 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: want to guess the name, but it was a really 650 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: nice place in Brooklyn on the waterfront, and I went 651 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: to the bathroom twice. And at the time, there wasn't 652 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: a ton of like website so you could just check 653 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: the score. This was like a flip phone, and I 654 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: had to go to like some college football uh message 655 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: board and keep hitting refreshed to see the comments, and 656 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: the game was taking so long I didn't know who 657 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't just keep going to the bathroom. So I 658 00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: had to just suck it up and be like, you 659 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: know what, this is life. You're not gonna be able 660 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: to see every football score the one year anniversary, Agore, 661 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: you want to marry, you gotta listen, make some sacrifices 662 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: so you know, we get home. Of course, I find 663 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: out on t VO that the damn thing didn't record, 664 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: and I have to watch the highlights, and now a 665 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: little crestfallen that you missed the unbelievable fourth and nine 666 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: conversion from Liner at the BOMMB to down the sideline. 667 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: I think it was jareded and it was just one 668 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: of those moments where I told Line at this and 669 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: he's cracking up. He's like, do you know how many 670 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: people have great stories from that night? They always tell 671 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: these stuff, and I'm like, oh man, I was just 672 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: that guy. At any rate, good stuff from Matt Liner. 673 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Let's quickly go to the best bet for Thursday night football. 674 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: It was supposed to be the game of the year, 675 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: Packers at the Cardinals, undefeated Arizona one last Green Bay. 676 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: The line was supposed to be three, was gonna open 677 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: three and a half, and then the Davante news hits, 678 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: and then the Allansizzard obviously much lesser, and it's like 679 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: nobody this game, all of a sudden doesn't have juice. 680 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: It's like, can Aaron Rodgers win this game by himself? 681 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: So I tried to talk to my son about him, Like, roh, 682 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: we got a fantasy quag buyer here. Do we start 683 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers without his top two receivers? Or or do 684 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: we go to the bench. Do we consider, and you 685 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: guys are gonna scoff at this, do we consider Carson 686 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: Wentz against Tennessee in a game where the total is 687 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: astronomically high. There's the Tennessee defense we know stinks. I 688 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: don't want to hear what they hope pet homes with 689 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: three points. I don't want to hear it. And Carson 690 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Wentz is at home. These games between these two are 691 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: historically high scoring. Is there a scenario where Aaron Rodgers 692 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: can do nothing without Adams? It's checked down, Charlie. They 693 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: decided to run a million times and he has like 694 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: ten fantasy points. Do we go to Carson Wentz and 695 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: so I had to have that discussion with my son. Listen, 696 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: the last time I told him, you've got to start 697 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: your stars. Adam DeLand was his star, but he had 698 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: not delivered for several weeks in a row. He forced 699 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: us to bench Dealen. Delon ended up with like three 700 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 1: touchdowns or he had a huge game, and that was like, Lesson, 701 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: you don't bend stars. So this is me now trying 702 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: to bench a star. But you know, this fantasy stuff. 703 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: I gotta say, play with your kids. It's fun at 704 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: any rate. You guys know, I bet Arizona early in 705 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: the week. If you're looking for a prop, I would 706 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: look strong. I do believe that Arizona could blow them out. 707 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: We've seen Aaron Rodgers kind of go into a shell. 708 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's unlikely. He is a primetime performer. I 709 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: think there was a memorable playoff game in Arizona where 710 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: he had like fifty one points in a classic. I 711 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: can see Arizona going all out, getting to like a 712 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: three or four touchdown lead and then going heavy on 713 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: the ground. So I am looking at any James Connor 714 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: props that I can find. James Conner, by the way, 715 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: is running like a beast for Arizona. He is having 716 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: an incredible season. I'm personally stunted how good this running 717 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: game has has been for Arizona. And uh, you know, 718 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like do you go with Connor? You know, 719 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: because they kind of have to split backfield. They dumped 720 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake. Who's now when um in Vegas and it's 721 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: like who do you like? Do you like? Is Connor 722 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: the guy? What about Chase Edmonds? If you look at 723 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,359 Speaker 1: the carries, James Conner has twenty more carries. Now, he's 724 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: got few yards, but he's the workhorse. Now look in 725 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: the red zone. That's the big difference here. Chase Edmonds 726 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: zero rushing touchdowns, James Conner six. If you're looking at props, 727 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: I would look at James Connor. Remember this is a 728 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: bad Packers run defense. They can be had on the ground. 729 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: Washington doesn't have the m O to do it. I 730 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: would for guys, I'm targeting James Conner for sure. And 731 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: I think this is maybe thirty four to twelve thirteen, 732 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,840 Speaker 1: something along those lines. But I have this feeling Arizona 733 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: wax is um and puts out a statement that hey, 734 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: you know, we're we're for real and a six and 735 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: a half is a little steep again. We're talking about 736 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers here, but on the road down Davante Adams. 737 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: You know it's third and seven. We know Davante Adams. 738 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: Bill in amount. Who's the guy tonight? Is it? Is 739 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: it really m vys? Who's coming off the I R 740 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: Robert timy In is Randall Cobb. I may star Randall 741 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: Cobbin fantasy. So I like Arizona tonight. I can't make 742 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: a case at all for the Packers, but enjoy the game. 743 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.