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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders dropping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: the four Star Telegram Dog Team. Good to see it.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, man? I think you just called

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Speaker 1: me old and different. No I did, Man. I respect you. Man.

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Speaker 1: I called it straight up on Twitter the other day.

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Speaker 1: the combine. You know what, Man, I saw almost wore

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Speaker 1: that today just for that car I was hoping you did.

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Speaker 1: I like it because I could talk to Clarion spot things.

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Speaker 1: I went saw Cooling the Gang on Friday night the

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Speaker 1: MAVs ball, and I was like, said, claris can understand

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Speaker 1: these songs. Man, I can get the game. The nude.

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Speaker 1: You got that for you and then didn't get it.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, true brand. Huh Okay, how would you think

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Speaker 1: he's supporting the XFL players? Okay, there you go, thirty six. Nah,

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Speaker 1: I'm forty two brothers. But thank I never guessed that

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Speaker 1: either than I could find with the Cooling the Game,

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Speaker 1: Love it, love it, love some grand Master flash. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm run. I dated young at forty two. What stop it?

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Speaker 1: We have? We have breaking cowboys, and obviously it's why

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Speaker 1: we bring you guys here. So uh, Tony Pollard franchise

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Speaker 1: tag not a surprise, nothing to say, Stevie want to

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Speaker 1: start of the company. It was it was that was

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Speaker 1: laid out there, ten million dollars. So now that we

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Speaker 1: know what's happening, I'll start with you. Clarence Thoughts, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean the bottom line is they weren't letting Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard go and and I don't know how you can

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Speaker 1: come to to get a deal done with Tony Pollard

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Speaker 1: just based on your history with Zeke and continued the

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Speaker 1: evaluation of running back. No, I don't know where you

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Speaker 1: get the media go of the mind. They weren't letting

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Speaker 1: Tony Pollar go. My immediately thought was now the focus

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Speaker 1: truly turns to Zeke's contract. And right now, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: on the kaper the running back positions twenty five million dollars,

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Speaker 1: twenty six million dollars right now, that's not standing that

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Speaker 1: that won't stand. So right now, you know, Tony Poarl's

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Speaker 1: gonna kind of at least ten point one million dollars

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Speaker 1: done or not. So you have to address Zeke's deal,

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Speaker 1: and that means you have to address Zeke's future. We

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Speaker 1: know what Tony Pollard's future is. He will be here,

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Speaker 1: Will Zeke be here next year? And in what form

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Speaker 1: think about. Fair enough right now as it stands to

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Speaker 1: some placeholder, it gives the Cowboys until July fourteenth, fifteenth

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Speaker 1: to work out a long term deal with Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 1: which is just smart. I mean, you do not want

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Speaker 1: what about the injury. It's not a soft tissue injury.

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Speaker 1: It's a broken fibula and it was a clean break.

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Speaker 1: But I'm I'm with Clarence on that. It turns to

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Speaker 1: Of course they just keep using the word financial, right,

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Speaker 1: this point is only going to continue. So whether Zeke's

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Speaker 1: to just continue to increase. That's the reason you're doing this,

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Speaker 1: and this is an offense that, let's be honest, they

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Speaker 1: need playmakers. They couldn't afford or to let Tony Pollard

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Speaker 1: enough difference makers on offense. You don't have enough home

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Speaker 1: There's no way that you could have let him leave that.

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Speaker 1: It's not like it's you know, you have this embarrassment

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Speaker 1: you're drafting at twenty six. There's no guarantee that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get some immediate playmaker at twenty six that's gonna

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Speaker 1: let's say that you're gonna see people, don't they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna explain all that to everybody, right, don't do this

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Speaker 1: a big time playmaker. Tony Pollard is a big time players.

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Speaker 1: How much do you how much do you cut him?

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Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. Tony has to go out

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Speaker 1: you want him back at all? Because generally most backup

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Speaker 1: this forces the Cowboys to up Pollard's snaps. I think

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Speaker 1: they have found the sweet spot. But then when you

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Speaker 1: You're not not having told you're not having Tony. You

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Speaker 1: And the problem with and I like ey Chain. You know,

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Speaker 1: there are some coutions about the luck. There's a course

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Speaker 1: to have questions about your attitude and their fair question

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Speaker 1: by the way, I mean I I have inside nowledge

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Speaker 1: that there are courses that ain't them about this attitude.

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Speaker 1: but yes, as a player, explosion and all of that.

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Speaker 1: But their number running backs in the draft included one

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Speaker 1: was at the breakfast. So Mike McCarthy got lit up

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Speaker 1: by Ryan Clark who said he's throwing Kellen Moore under

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Speaker 1: the bus. I never took the comment that Mike said

427
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Speaker 1: as I'm throwing Kelly another bus. He praised Kellen. He

428
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Speaker 1: said I was where Kellen once was. I wanted to

429
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Speaker 1: score points. Then you become a head coach and coach

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Speaker 1: you want to run the ball you want you got

431
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Speaker 1: to look at it bigger. I thought it was Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy saying, I'm zoom I zoom out as a head

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Speaker 1: coach and play caller. Now, Kellen Moore, your this is

434
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Speaker 1: your first you know, this is your your first coordinator team.

435
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: You were trying to score, you zoom in. That's how

436
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Speaker 1: I took it. But two guys were there, Patrick start first.

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Speaker 1: First of all, Mike McCarthy could not have offered more

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Speaker 1: praise about Kellen Moore than he did. Funny thing that

439
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Speaker 1: John said before we went on the air, which was

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Speaker 1: completely accurate. Mike might have had twenty to twenty five

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Speaker 1: lines of, you know, praise for Kellen, but the national

442
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 1: media took the one or two pieces out and they

443
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: spun it and they got off pissed off about it,

444
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Speaker 1: not seeing the bigger picture. And it's funny to me

445
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Speaker 1: because funny and said, it's to me because Mike McCarthy

446
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: basically explained all the good things things Kellen Moore did

447
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: and indirectly in saying that, they're not scrapping this playbook, right,

448
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: they're not completely setting Kelly Moore's playbook on fire. They're

449
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Speaker 1: just gonna add some tweaks and some intricacies to it.

450
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Speaker 1: But ultimately it's it's it's a non story because the

451
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Speaker 1: reason that Mike changed at play caller was explained and articulated.

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Speaker 1: And if he didn't explain and articulate that, then everyone

453
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Speaker 1: would still be wondering, well, why did you If if

454
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Speaker 1: you only have great things to say about him, then

455
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Speaker 1: he should still be in the building. Well, Mike said

456
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Speaker 1: he was great at this, this, this, this, and this,

457
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Speaker 1: this not so much, and this is ultimately why we're

458
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Speaker 1: going in this direction. You want the truth, but you

459
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Speaker 1: can't handle the truth. Right. So Mike, Mike's in a

460
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Speaker 1: situation where you know you want him on that wall,

461
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Speaker 1: you need him on that wall, right, And yeah, he

462
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Speaker 1: ordered the cold red, Right, he ordered the cold red.

463
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 1: I had to have an issue with it because the

464
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Speaker 1: things he had talked spoken about on the other podcast show,

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Speaker 1: I do players as we've moting and grown in about

466
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Speaker 1: it for a long time, John, And I'm not even

467
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Speaker 1: saying I don't even think that he thinks that there's

468
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Speaker 1: a big difference in their philosophies. It's just one of

469
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Speaker 1: the big things that he is Mike's trying to do

470
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Speaker 1: is he thinks it needs to be called a little

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Speaker 1: bit differently for this particular team, you know, to cut

472
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Speaker 1: down on the turnovers, to give the defense more rest.

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Speaker 1: That's what his belief is, as opposed to, like he said,

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Speaker 1: light up the scoreboard, which he says right before that,

475
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Speaker 1: he says, I've been there before. He's been a young

476
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: offensive what young offensive minded coach come in the league

477
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to lay up the scoreboard. But Mike's basically

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Speaker 1: what he was trying to say there is I've been

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Speaker 1: there and done that. I'm at a point in my

480
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Speaker 1: career where I need to help out the defense. Our

481
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Speaker 1: defense is very good. We need to do different things.

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Speaker 1: Now him saying that I understand that was taken. There's

483
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that think that that's a poor

484
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Speaker 1: way to go about it, that your best way to

485
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Speaker 1: run clock on offense is to get first downs by

486
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Speaker 1: any means necessary, not necessarily running the football. Reading between

487
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Speaker 1: the lines from everybody we talked to this week, I

488
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Speaker 1: would say the biggest shift in philosophy probably comes from

489
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Speaker 1: two games, and it is in the San Francisco game.

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00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: It's losing the game in jail. Well, I was gonna

491
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Speaker 1: say losing the game at Jacksonville and then losing the

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Speaker 1: game to Green Bay. When you have two touchdown leads

493
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Speaker 1: in the second half, you know you need to those

494
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: need to be wins. If those are wins, maybe you're

495
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Speaker 1: where Philly was with with that having to you know,

496
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Speaker 1: you get a buy, you have home field, you have

497
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: to play that Giants team, you get to forty nine

498
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Speaker 1: ers who didn't have a quarterback, and then you're in

499
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Because I'm sorry, like I just don't

500
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Speaker 1: look at it is like this was just some epic

501
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Speaker 1: disaster and they just had to go in another direction

502
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Speaker 1: they had there. They moved on from Kellen Moore because

503
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Speaker 1: something had to change for them to feel like they

504
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Speaker 1: need to take the next step, and to be honest

505
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Speaker 1: with you, If they don't take the next step, it's

506
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Speaker 1: on Mike McCarthy, So he wants to be the one

507
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Speaker 1: that say this is on me. Here's what's even more

508
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Speaker 1: wild about it is, I think people are forgetting that

509
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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore himself stood on that podium in that media

510
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Speaker 1: room earlier this season and kind of a self in

511
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Speaker 1: a self burned fashion, said, you know, I want to

512
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Speaker 1: throw the ball, you know, sixty times a game, but

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Speaker 1: I realized I can't do that. Okay, So Kellen just

514
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Speaker 1: told you. He admitted this season that he's kind of

515
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 1: fighting against himself. He wants to throw the ball all

516
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Speaker 1: the time, but he's starting to understand the value of

517
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Speaker 1: when to peel back and run the ball. Maybe Mike

518
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Speaker 1: McCarthy didn't see enough of that. So when Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: reiterates it, keep in mind he's just reiterating what Kellen

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Speaker 1: has already put out there. I think this is a

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Speaker 1: classic example of sometime being too honest. Mike didn't have

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Speaker 1: to say anything. You know Stephen told us, you know,

523
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Speaker 1: we want to go to different philosophy. Jar they talked

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Speaker 1: about this, Mike being trying to be amenable to the

525
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Speaker 1: media and be honest about everything. He was too open

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Speaker 1: and honest. When you're opening honest, people can take things

527
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Speaker 1: and dissect them the way they want. And you know,

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Speaker 1: and and and and that's what happened. Man. So so

529
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Speaker 1: you got this whole quote. You know, I love killing.

530
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,239
Speaker 1: I gave killing an opportunity. But so as you know,

531
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Speaker 1: once you say, but we ain't heard nothing you said before,

532
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Speaker 1: how you when you break up? I've given to this

533
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Speaker 1: in life. This is not just Clarency and we all

534
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: know that, they say, But all this, I love Kelly

535
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate Kelly is a great off a great

536
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Speaker 1: young man. All that's now, let's talk that what you

537
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: really mean? Now, what are you really trying to say?

538
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: And that's what people are focusing on. And the problem

539
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: with that is that where it's coming from. As a

540
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Speaker 1: coach who most people remember, got criticized for not running

541
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Speaker 1: the ball in Green Bay, okay, much of it last

542
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: few years in Green Bay, got criticized for throwing the

543
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Speaker 1: ball too much and not running the ball and now

544
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Speaker 1: you and that's when you was a head coach. Now

545
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: we was yourself off as coordinator. Okay, you was the

546
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Speaker 1: head coach and trying to whole team and a lot

547
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Speaker 1: of criticisms that in Green Bay was he refused to

548
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Speaker 1: run the ball, it was passed at bat. Disagree with

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Speaker 1: Are we just talking facts that y'all bring up other facts?

550
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Speaker 1: I'm just telling me a lot of people throwing something

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Speaker 1: this time on national media. Hear that, and they go

552
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 1: back to what we remember about you as a play caller.

553
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: The last time you were a play caller. This was

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Speaker 1: on your ledger. Yeah, they're not they're not coming beneath

555
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 1: this surface here. That's swers are saying. They're right here.

556
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: They're going to stay here because this is what that's

557
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. If you want to keep if

558
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: you want to have a TV job and you want

559
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: to keep your job, you ain't gonna sit there and

560
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: go up there and be like, hey, did you hear

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00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: what Mike McCarthy said about cal Moore? A lot of

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00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: good things. He really liked him. He just didn't work out. Yeah. So,

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00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: and the thing about it is, you know it comes

564
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: with the dinner. You're the Cowboys coach for sure, and

565
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: so yes, mccart's not happy and Dad's not happy, and

566
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: everybody's that bad because he's getting killed because of what

567
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,640
Speaker 1: he said about killing this part but not they don't

568
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: bring up this parts. We are if you're a big

569
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: we're a big boys here. This is not the first

570
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: time that the Cowboys, anything that said about the Cowboys

571
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: are gonna take on a new life of its own nationally.

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Speaker 1: So let me spit this on this standpoint, and where

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Speaker 1: kind of the biggest speaker's view of it all is

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Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy's liked calling plays, and he's told us many

575
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Speaker 1: times we've gone to press conference. Is he liked it.

576
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: We don't know if this is going to be his

577
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Speaker 1: last year. So if you're going to finally take it

578
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: over and do what you want it like if if

579
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: I go down, I'm gonna put my boots way doing

580
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: it my way, I'm coming out shooting. I ain't gonna

581
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: ask Kelling Moore, hey man, shoot it that. Now I'm

582
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: gonna tell The crazy part for me is that, as

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00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: John said that he's twelve twelve and five twelve past

584
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: two years, done something no coach has done since the

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Speaker 1: nineties with twelve wins and back to Switzer done, you know,

586
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: back and back playoff wins. But yet we all accepted

587
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: understand this man's job is on the line in twenty

588
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: twenty three. He ain't done enough to keep a job

589
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: past twenty twenty three. But you know you worked for

590
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: the verse of George, so that's all part of this too.

591
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: We all readily understanding and no one even blinking the

592
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: fact that this man has won as Stevens a more

593
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: game than Indy's team in the NFL Saver Kansas City

594
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: the past two seasons. But yet his job is on

595
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: the line, and we're not blinking on because we ain't

596
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: seen a contracting sens you know, some protect Steve so

597
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: so so so you know, it would frustrates me even

598
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: as we do this conversation because there's so much, so

599
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: many layers factors, and they're just understanding talking to Steven

600
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: that and those guys that the offense has, you know,

601
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: reached the ceiling under Kelly More. It's gone as far

602
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: as it can go. And I know what you're gonna say,

603
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: because you're gonna jump right back down my throat. I

604
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: believe that this year they had less weapons on offense

605
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: they did. Oh yeah, I wouldn't disagree with that, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I just the only thing I disagree with you with

607
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: sometimes is you make it sound like it's just the

608
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: they had the worst weapons. My point is you took

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Speaker 1: a step back with less weapons on offense, and now

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Speaker 1: you're saying we've gone as far as we can go

611
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Speaker 1: with this. You know that that's kind of you know, like,

612
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Speaker 1: how do you give your quarterback less weapons? That and

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Speaker 1: the thing we go back to that championship game or

614
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: the playoff game. We can already acknowledge that the Cowboys

615
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: that two players teeth will be scared of and they

616
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Speaker 1: lost one on that field. Give me more weapons, did

617
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Speaker 1: tell me we've gone as far as to go with

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Speaker 1: this office, give me more webbers and tell me that,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, whether it's Dak, whether it's Keller, would

620
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Speaker 1: give me give me decent weapons. Which why this offseason

621
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Speaker 1: we need juice. We need to make a big move.

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Speaker 1: We need juice on offense. Who didn't know that I've

623
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Speaker 1: been saying that said last year, like our guys, they've

624
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: been seen and maybe since last year, we like our guys,

625
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Speaker 1: That's what we were told Paul training kid. We like

626
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Speaker 1: our guys who didn't know that. Give me so if

627
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Speaker 1: the offense has reached his peak, I would love it.

628
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: We just speak with the best weapons on the field.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Let's take another Let's take our

630
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: last break here. Who is the one free agent the

631
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys have that you would resign if you were in charge.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that next with John Scholden, Patrick Walker, Clarence

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Speaker 1: he makes his decision. Who's the one Cowboy free agent?

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Speaker 1: Did you say, I can't let that person go take

678
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Speaker 1: away Tony Park because he's got the franchise tax, so

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Speaker 1: you know he'll at least be here one more year. John. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that this is the best player of

681
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Speaker 1: the group, but with all things considered, for me, it

682
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: would be Laton Vanderesh when I say, all things considered,

683
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Speaker 1: it's what I think that he can get on the

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Speaker 1: open market. Medically. Obviously he's had some issues. Uh. The

685
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Speaker 1: other thing I factor in is the way the team

686
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: looked when he wasn't on the field. And then the

687
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 1: other part is just what's behind him on the depth chart.

688
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: So there's some other positions that maybe you might say,

689
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Speaker 1: like you could argue maybe like a Donovan Wilson. I

690
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: looked at that, and I'm like, they got some some

691
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: solid safeties on this team right now, so I can

692
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: maybe maybe, you know, move some pieces around there, maybe

693
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: draft one later. I don't know what they're doing at

694
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: linebacker if they don't resign Laton Vanderesh clear, I don't.

695
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Speaker 1: Besides Tony Pollard must yeah, he said at the beginning

696
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Speaker 1: of the segment, I was, what were you doing? Somebody

697
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: was agent was texting me, Oh sure, I was. It was, UM,

698
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a must on as the guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I like Donovan Wilson, you know,

700
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Speaker 1: but you got two safeties. You're not gonna tag it

701
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Speaker 1: in fourteen million. You know, got some young guys. Uh,

702
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: coaching staff definitely wants down Wilson, you know, but the

703
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: question is particularly you you clients here, You're you're talking

704
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: to Jerry. You're telling him, this is the guy we

705
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: can't let out of the building. Well, Jerry's already moved

706
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: on because he doesn't have the conviction at all even

707
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: saw this player at this point. So it's name. I mean,

708
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: I don't there's nobody out. You can't move by to boom.

709
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: That's okay, but you get I'm going Donald, I need

710
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: Donafan Wilson back in my uh, in my secondary who

711
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: can also drop down and be that you know, that

712
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 1: blitch package guy who can just really bully a quarterback.

713
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: He takes the ball away, he gets the job done.

714
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Speaker 1: And I see, I understand what you're saying. John, as

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Speaker 1: far as okay, well you got this safety and that safety.

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Speaker 1: Yes you have the league hooker, you got jay Ron Curse.

717
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: But these are contract seasons for both of them. You'd

718
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Speaker 1: like to believe they're here in twenty four, but you

719
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: just don't know. Okay, So those are two guys, they're

720
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Speaker 1: coming up for new negotiations. You look behind them and

721
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Speaker 1: you say, okay, well, what's the death situation? Okay? In camp,

722
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: you like a guy like Marquis Bell. However, he couldn't

723
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: earn his way onto the field this season. That's worrisome

724
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: to me. That's not saying that I'm out on Bill,

725
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: because I'm not out on him, but it's enough to say.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if my depth is a solid

727
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Speaker 1: yet as I would like it to be. So for me,

728
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Speaker 1: Donovan Wilson, that's who you got to bring back, especially

729
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: considering jay Ron Curse for as much of a soldier

730
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Speaker 1: as he is and battling through some injuries. He had

731
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Speaker 1: several this year, so going into twenty three, which is

732
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: a contract gift for him, can he stay healthy? Hopefully so,

733
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Speaker 1: but you don't know yet. Too many I don't knows

734
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: all over the place on defense, especially a lineback. But

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Speaker 1: I think if you take Donald out, we know what

736
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Speaker 1: vander esh looks like or what the defense looks like

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Speaker 1: with lve on and out. You didn't really see it

738
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Speaker 1: without Donovan in twenty three because he was so durable

739
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Speaker 1: despite what he was able to do, despite those high

740
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Speaker 1: impact plays that he's making, and you hope that you

741
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Speaker 1: don't have to see it without Donald. So bring me

742
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: the problem with Laden and we He's important to the

743
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Speaker 1: defense and getting lined up and all of those stuff.

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Speaker 1: Is the hell, you can't trust the health and they're

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Speaker 1: not giving multi your deal and I know, you know

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Speaker 1: you there's his agent was upset after, you know, coming

747
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Speaker 1: in and negotiating on the bus because the Cowboys not

748
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Speaker 1: budget on this one reason why last year you know

749
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Speaker 1: he had he actually had a multi ye deal with

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh last year and they pulled it in last minute

751
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Speaker 1: when they sat a mile jet and that's why he

752
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: came back to the Cowboys on the one year deal.

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00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: And you know it's gonna be the same way this year.

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Speaker 1: You know, he wants to stay here. They wanted to stay.

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Speaker 1: You the Cowboys and not Buzzet don't know multi year

756
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Speaker 1: deal for Laton because they don't know what his future

757
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: is year the year. It's just crazy because you know,

758
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: Jabril Cox just gets forgotten about because he didn't make

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Speaker 1: much of an impact. Jabril Cox last year had the

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup yere where you just kind of were expecting

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Speaker 1: more from him because he was coming off the knee injury.

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Speaker 1: Just never met so and it certainly looks like demon

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00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,959
Speaker 1: Clark's gonna be good football players, no question. But there's

764
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Speaker 1: just a lot of questions at linebacker, and I'm not

765
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: really big on drafting linebackers that are true linebackers very high.

766
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Speaker 1: So maybe, hey, they found Damien Wilson, they found Anthony

767
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: Hitchin's fourth round guys like that, maybe they can find

768
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: another one. But I just don't like their linebacker. I

769
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Speaker 1: have Laton and and that's all fair and and I'm

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Speaker 1: with you in that late vander Esch has a ton

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Speaker 1: of value in my eyes. And I would I would

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Speaker 1: pound the table for Laton, but I wouldn't pound it

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Speaker 1: as hard as I would pound it for Donald. That's

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Speaker 1: over one hundred combined tackles, five sacks, uh and and

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Speaker 1: this is his second version of a breakout season, because

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Speaker 1: he had a breakout season in year two, had a

777
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Speaker 1: little bit of injury, and year three, year four he

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Speaker 1: balls out. Donald is the now give me a number market, right,

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Speaker 1: because you got just made you got some of those

780
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Speaker 1: other guys, so you're not doing fourteen, I'm not doing.

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00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: So then what if I could get you pay in

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Speaker 1: Zeke's six? Right? Sounds something okay, So let's slide the

783
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: scale a little bit. If I can get Donald for

784
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Speaker 1: ten or eleven I'm I'm I'm in for that a year.

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00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: I'd average him for yeah, four to forty four, forty

786
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: four at forty it's gonna be your highest pace safety.

787
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: What you're saying, Donald, Yeah, I don't know. Because the

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Speaker 1: market it's weird. The market is weird, and time on

789
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: this team, he's gonna be paid high nos other two.

790
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah absolutely, But for a franchise, it never pays

791
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 1: for safe until that drafted. Because no, I said that,

792
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: I say that, I say that. Here's here's the little

793
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: bit of longer form explanation. It was a team that

794
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: perennially didn't value the safety position and in a high

795
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: regard until dan Quinn came. And then you started seeing

796
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: Malik Hooker, Jay Ron Curse and they value that mean

797
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: they use him when they use them interchangeably, which actually

798
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: brings down that value. Guarantee you, dan Quinn, the engineer

799
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Speaker 1: of the Legion of Boom who had cam and an earl,

800
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: absolutely value. You're missing my point though. When I say value,

801
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking about financially. You're you're talking about how to

802
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: use them. Yes, it's important to his defense. We're talking

803
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: about money. Okay, Okay, I'm telling you that if it's

804
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: important to the defensive coordinator, then the defensive coordinator's voice

805
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Speaker 1: want to be. But he already has two under contract, right,

806
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: but they've done that here though, Okay, So then the

807
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Speaker 1: question would be how much do they value dan Quinn

808
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Speaker 1: and his opinion, because I believe that they value both

809
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: of those things very highly, and if and if true,

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Speaker 1: and if and if so, then his and if so

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Speaker 1: then his opinion. I'll put it this way, and dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn dan Quinn having a conversation about the probably paying

813
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Speaker 1: a safety and free on the free market. Right, it's

814
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: probably more valuable and meaningful them to the Cowboys than

815
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: no shade. But to a Rod Marinelli trying to have

816
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: driving dan Quinn around Highland Park saying we will show

817
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Speaker 1: me a safety house. She liked. You donna get to

818
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: do that around but we like it. Just going back

819
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: to last year, the linebacker from from Seattle, dan Quinn

820
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 1: wanted him. He was he was priced out of what

821
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: the cowboy wanted to pay. Du want who he wants.

822
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: If he's gonna get more on the free markets, they're

823
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: not going to tag him and he's gonna be up forbid.

824
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: He's gonna be prised out of what the Cowboys are

825
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: gonna pay because they don't value financially paying. You will

826
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Speaker 1: say this, and that's what I'm saying. We can all

827
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: agree on this. There are two things that work here,

828
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Speaker 1: because free agency is always a two way street, which

829
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 1: is why I get it furious when people on Twitter

830
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Speaker 1: and this the social sphere act as if it's a

831
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Speaker 1: one way street, like if a guy goes somewhere, it's

832
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: because all the team didn't offer enough money. These negotiations

833
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: are super complex. We all know that. So if it's

834
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Speaker 1: a situation where dan Quinn values the safety position e g.

835
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Speaker 1: Donovan Willson very highly and the Cowboys are amenable to

836
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: hearing him out on that, and Donovan is amenable to

837
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: maybe lowering his ass to stay with dan Quinn, a

838
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: player's coach, a guy who has helped him reaching elite level,

839
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: then I think it could get done. But we'll see, obviously,

840
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: because I'm not speaking for don more than i'm speaking James.

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Speaker 1: I'm not lowering my money. I'm one of the big

842
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: my value as a free agent. I don't care whoever.

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00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: I am one of the biggest player advocates you will

844
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: ever meet. I want every player to get every bag,

845
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: to squeeze every penny out of this league as possible.

846
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Speaker 1: If that's here in Dallas, wonderful, Fast to be someone else, wonderful.

847
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Speaker 1: Go get your bag, young man, get your generational wealth.

848
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Speaker 1: That said, in the aspect of just talking about the

849
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Speaker 1: science of the of the situation, there is a possibility

850
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Speaker 1: that any player, Donovan or anyone around the league could

851
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: be amenable to taking a little bit less to stay

852
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Speaker 1: with their respective team. That's a thing, is it not? Well,

853
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: I evolve their eighteen to nineteen on restrict of free agents.

854
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't see a single person on the list that

855
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Speaker 1: won't be back. If they're not wanting to do that,

856
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: they're not going to be outbidding anybody or anybody. I

857
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Speaker 1: agree with that. I'm simply saying that's a thing like

858
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Speaker 1: it happen. Yes, it is a thing. But my point

859
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: is where we're going back to value. Okay, I'm saying

860
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are not going to value him more than

861
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: someone else possible, They're gonna pay him that value. We're

862
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys value of him. Did you hear?

863
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: Did you hear? Did you hear how Mike talked about

864
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: Donald and Okay, hey, what player are you at? Brett Maher,

865
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm really I'm really with Clarence. Yeah, there's not

866
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Speaker 1: a player that I look at say well, we have

867
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Speaker 1: to have that that that player back and and and

868
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna pay a free agent number to keep I

869
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: really don't. Yeah, I'm just sitting here. I am very

870
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: interested to see what they do at linebacker if they

871
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: don't bring back Late though, because yes, last year, at

872
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: that time, we didn't know that they would go sign

873
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: Anthony Barr. There are obviously moves that can be made,

874
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 1: but something has to happen, because I don't think you

875
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: can just know he's not he's ill. We'll see who's

876
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: free you on March fIF I just don't think you

877
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: can just roll into the next season going, oh, we

878
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: got Jabril Cox to Moan Clark, we'll be fine. We'll

879
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 1: find somebody in the mid to late rounds, like, you're

880
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: gonna have to make some type of investment at the position.

881
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: And and this this is the beauty of letting it

882
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: play out to say, hey, look these guys, you know,

883
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: let's see what else we can do, and maybe you

884
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: end up with a Malik Hooker of a linebacker. That

885
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: that kind of player, a jay Ron Curson linebacker maybe.

886
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: And this is to me where you look at your

887
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: coaches and you look at Dan Quinn, how can you

888
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: get the maximum value out of this particular player like

889
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: you did with the safety room. How can you go

890
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: find those guys? We hear Mike and you guys were

891
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: at the combine and he said it a lot. They

892
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: do believe in draft and development. So I think that's

893
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: where they go back to their coaches and say, hey, guys,

894
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 1: what can you find over here? Guess what? We were

895
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: not shopping at ems today. Guys were not shopping at

896
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: ems going to hit a belt. I'm not Bill. I

897
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: love Bell and round with Bell. I loved I got

898
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: a belt card Son. I'm up in the bell calls time.

899
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: I used to players, I go all time. So that's

900
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: why what about Ross? I like Bell, Clarence Clarence Clarence

901
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: Clarence as an NI NI with Ross, you are always

902
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: bringing up well whever you feel comfortable. Do you walk

903
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: into Ross and there's a cardboard cut out of drill

904
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: this waving. I just said, they're going to the Great

905
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: bib Meals outlet. Okay, the outlet they look at the

906
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: outlet for the I mean that's funny because like, you know,

907
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: just like whenever you guys get back, you know, I'm

908
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: sure your bosses say, like, you know, let's write something

909
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: about you know, what were the biggest takeaways or things

910
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: we learned during a week and everything, and all I'm thinking,

911
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's gonna be more of more of the

912
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: same business usual, you know, like they ain't breaking the

913
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: bank design anybody. They're not a big move imminent. I mean,

914
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought there was this big move that

915
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,320
Speaker 1: they're they're they're working can make this big than the

916
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: big offensive, big big splat they were. They were working,

917
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: working tiresly that could make something happens, big move cowboys

918
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: making a big move. Or maybe the big move is

919
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: c J. Strell Maybe the big big move. Yeah, they're

920
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: going to size twenty six that they were. You know,

921
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: that big move will happened when you man Tyron Crawford

922
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: gives you that whole thing he was doing. We're gonna

923
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: make a boom. Cowboys're gonna make a boom. I call

924
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: you guys, but but but but listen, the cowboys want

925
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: well you know, and it's just like OBJ Jerry says, Yeah,

926
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Speaker 1: I've just got the same interest in OBJ. I got

927
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: the same interesh after he was asking multiple questions about it,

928
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: he could offer, I got the same interest in OBJ,

929
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: but I ain't talked to him. Yeah, indirectly three times,

930
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: but I ain't talked to him directly when I was

931
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: interested in about talking him directly. But but I got

932
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: the same interes But I have not talked to him.

933
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: That he's free. He don't have to wait till the

934
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: start the friends. You can design him at any time.

935
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'm just talking about Jerry. But you had

936
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 1: He said, I got the same interess I had during

937
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: the season, but yet I have not talked I talked

938
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: to his MoMA. Is it a big move to you guys?

939
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: If if they traded for Brandon Cooks or Allen Robinson. Uh,

940
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: we can't talk about. We can't talk about talk about

941
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:52,439
Speaker 1: those guys. This is fun. We'll have to find another

942
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: day to do it again. To do the media match

943
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: for Clarence Hill, Patrick Walker, John showed, I'm new he scruggs.

944
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945
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946
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