1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: My family is disappointed I survived my illness. They thought 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: they were gonna get my money. 3 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,039 Speaker 2: WHOA, that's crazy, Sophia. 4 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Well, keon, it's Inheriting too Much Drama Week on Okay 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Storytime podcast, where we're uncovering the most unhinged stories of greed, betrayal, 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: and family secrets. Tales that will have you questioning whether 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: the people closest to you actually have your best interest 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: at heart, or if they've just been waiting for the 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: right moment to show their true colors, because apparently, for 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: some families, love is a price. 11 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 3: Stag. 12 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: If you're new here and looking for the story I 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: became a millionaire overnight and lost everything that actually mattered, 14 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: just click the link of the show notes and description, 15 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: or search Inheriting too Much Drama Week, Okay Storytime wherever 16 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Let's dive into this one, but first, 17 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: a quick two minute break for the sponsors keeping this show. Afloat. 18 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: I Mail forty seven, was diagnosed with cancer about six 19 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: months ago. I don't know what happened, but I was misdiagnosed. 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:57,959 Speaker 1: It wasn't malignant as the initial diagnosis thought. Anyway, I'm 21 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: recovering by the way. This comes from deleted and if 22 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: you want to spit your own stories, go to the 23 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: r slash okay storytime separate it. 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 3: I'm Sophia, I'm Keon, and we're here to get good. 25 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Advice scoofully, but we don't have all the answers. We 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: only know what we'd do, So let us know what 27 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: you would do in the comments and op sense. I 28 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: don't know why, but it felt like mom Female seventy 29 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: three and sister female thirty five weren't all that glad 30 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: about me recovering. I didn't make a fuss, but I 31 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: told my girlfriend, female thirty eight about my observation. She 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: told me not to worry and that they were probably 33 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: still in shock. We were invited to my mom's house 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: last Sunday, and that's when my nephew, male twelve was 35 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: a bit angry and blurted out something about him thinking 36 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: he was going to be rich soon because I was sick. 37 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: It felt like a hit to the gut. I'm child free, 38 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: so I don't really know when people start being a holes, 39 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: but it felt like he's still too young for that. 40 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: So the next explanation is that he's heard the adults 41 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: around him. I laughed and looked at my family. They 42 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: pretended that they didn't hear. Only my girlfriend watched me 43 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: in horror. I asked my nephew, why would he think 44 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: he would get rich when I have my girlfriend? He 45 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: was confused. I saw my sister turn around at that announcement. 46 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: My girlfriend spent the rest of the evening holding my 47 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: hand and caressing it. I'm called the day after and 48 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: she was dancing around the subject trying to find out more. 49 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: I never discussed my will with anyone, But what were 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: they expecting. I've been with my girlfriend for thirteen years. 51 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: She's the love of my life and my family, what 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: the effe is going on? I'm changing my will, excluding 53 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: my nephews, who thought I would leave some for It's 54 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: gonna go to charity instead. And we've got an update, folks. 55 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, yai, not a good family. 56 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, not a good family. When all they are going 57 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 2: to remember you buy is your money. 58 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're waiting for you to just pass away so 59 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: they can get all that money. But we got an update, 60 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: So this blew up. The message is loud and clear, 61 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: marry your girlfriend. In my defense, neither of us have 62 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: ever thought about it. We're happy, and we've always seen 63 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: each other as each other's family. Unfortunately, that's probably not 64 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: how the world sees us, and it's sad about the will. 65 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: I'm guessing the majority of you are from the US, 66 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: but where I come from, as long as I don't 67 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: have children, nobody can really contest a will. My mom 68 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: would be the only person who could contest, and it 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't work since only children's inheritance rights are protected by 70 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: law and can't be willed away. I spent all night 71 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: yesterday reading your comments with my girlfriend sleeping beside me. 72 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: She woke up around three am and smiled at me. God, 73 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: I love her beautiful face. I just blurted out, will 74 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: you marry me? She smiled even more and said yes, 75 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: and then snuggled up in my arms. I was in heaven. 76 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: There is no way, there is no way that this 77 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: woman was not thinking about marriage for ten years. 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: Thirteen years of you guys being together in marriage wasn't 79 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 2: brought up once. 80 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: I do not believe for a second that the woman 81 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: who just said yes in two seconds to your marriage 82 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: proposal that happened at three. 83 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, how romantic, by the way you could just I. 84 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: Said earlier your phone? 85 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: Is it here? There's no way that your girlfriend was 86 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: not thinking about that for ten years, I believe. But 87 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: maybe she didn't think about it for three years, but 88 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: she was thinking about it for the ten years after that. 89 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: Also, what a romantic you know segue of Yeah, three 90 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 2: am in the morning. 91 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: This is our this is our Oh my god, I 92 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: just had a terrible dream. 93 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: Wait, why are you up? 94 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 95 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: I'm still reading the comments from this rose. 96 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: I was just so, I don't know. I just had 97 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: a terrible nightmare. 98 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Will you marry me? 99 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 4: Yeah? 100 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: Like what? 101 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? 102 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 2: All right? 103 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: In the morning, she asked me, did you propose yesterday? 104 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: With the biggest smile on her face, and I said yes, 105 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: she said finally with a twinkle in her eye, and 106 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: then she kissed me. She then told me that she 107 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: was here when I felt ready to talk about my nephew. 108 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: I don't have any social media, but my girlfriend does, 109 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: and she shared that we're engaged. Mom called me two 110 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: hours later to ask if it was a joke. She 111 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: asked why now, and I didn't hold back. I told 112 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: her that for the past ten years or so, I've 113 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: been treated as a cash cow for my sister and 114 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: her family always expected to pay and only the most 115 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: expensive things. My sister even insinuated that her oldest son, 116 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: male fourteen, is expecting a Porsche when he turns eighteen, 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: and instead of acknowledging my generosity, they were disappointed that 118 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: I didn't pass away. Mom started crying at this, swearing 119 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: that it was all in my head. They're all so 120 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: grateful and happy that I'm fine, but that I shouldn't 121 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: forget that they're my real family. My girlfriend is still 122 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: young and she could move on with her life should 123 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the worst happen, but they'll always be my family. Mom 124 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: said that girlfriend also has a career of her own 125 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: and is childless, so she isn't in need. I might 126 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: add that neither is my sister and her family. I 127 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: told mom that my girlfriend has always been my family, 128 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: and now she's becoming my family on paper too. Mom 129 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: started crying again and asked me if I'm planning to 130 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: disinherit the boys now because of a stupid comment made 131 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: by a child, and if I did disinherit them, if 132 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: that also meant I would disinherit my girlfriend's niece. I 133 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: told her that she should wait for me to pass 134 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: to find out shouldn't she She said, there's no point 135 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: talking to me what I'd like this. She begged me 136 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: not to do anything stupid and wished me good night. 137 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, honey, don't do anything dumb that should have passed 138 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:20,679 Speaker 2: away first. 139 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 1: It's so crazy for her to be this, you know, 140 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, on top of the will situation when 141 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: you aren't even passed or passing. 142 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: And you also said I'm gonna get married to my 143 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 2: girlfriend thirteen years And she said, but what about the money? 144 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: She said, is this a joke? 145 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, you're kind of crazy. Not congratulations. I'm so 146 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: happy for you. 147 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: Now. What's left is to find my girlfriend, no, my 148 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: fiance an engagement ring. She's very simple and minimalistic. She 149 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: wants something small and simple. Her only request is that 150 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: I choose it. Please send any suggestions my way. I'm 151 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: new to this business. I'll put some photos of what 152 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: I found so far on my page. Since this sub 153 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: doesn't allow sharing images, Tell me your opinion and give 154 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: me your best rings. Dang, this got long. Sorry guys, Yeah, 155 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: we've got some comments. Comment one says you might want 156 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: to rethink your will about the rest of your family too. 157 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Sounds like they've been plotting about inheritance behind your back 158 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: during the misdiagnosis. You might also want to leave them 159 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: out of any medical and financial decisions. This is really 160 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: heartbreaking for you, but I'm glad you've got your girlfriend 161 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: to lean on. Opie says, girlfriends don't inherit anything here, 162 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: no matter how long we've been together. I don't think 163 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: my family know that I have a will. They probably 164 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: assumed once I passed on, they're getting everything. Comment two 165 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: says when money is involved, it's only then that you 166 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: know the levels of people's greed. It's good, you know, 167 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: just a shame. It's people who should be close. I've 168 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: seen it loads, and it never ceases to amaze me. 169 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Opie says, I know these things happen, but I never 170 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: expected them happening to me, and at it since neither 171 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: of us like it tension, especially my fiance. What a 172 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: beautiful thing to call her. We're elbing. She was very 173 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: happy when she suggested that and found out. I wanted 174 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: to say. 175 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: There's still no way to me that. OPI's like, not 176 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 2: one day, just in his mind we should get married. 177 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: But now he's like on that, he's on that. 178 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: Train, Like, oh my God, why didn't I think of 179 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: this sooner? 180 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: This is so cool. 181 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: She's my girlfriend. 182 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: Beyonce could have done this ages ago. Instead, when I'm 183 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: fully recovered, we're taking a long vacation to the Maldives 184 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: or Mexico right now. I don't wish for anything else. 185 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: And we've got an update. Do you have any thoughts though? 186 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: Before we get in? 187 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: No, that those comments were pretty straightforward and light. Like 188 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: it said, now you know, and update your will if. 189 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: You need to. 190 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just focus on your girlfriend who's been supporting 191 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: you and it's has at least shown that she's not 192 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 2: after your money, She's just after you and because she 193 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 2: loves you. 194 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: Well, we got an update. Hello, I'm the dude who 195 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: proposed to his girlfriend after thirteen years. I came back 196 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: to make some clarifications because my post is blown up 197 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 1: and it saddens me that people are getting the wrong 198 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: impression of my relationship with my girlfriend, that I have 199 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: been stringing her along for thirteen years. This is absolutely 200 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: not the case. First and foremost, it's twenty twenty two. 201 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Women can propose if they want to. Second, you have 202 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: no idea the amount of love and respect I have 203 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: for this woman. She is my old world. I find 204 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: myself daydreaming about her eyes and smile whenever I'm away 205 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: from her. We just never thought about marriage. We w 206 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: e if she was interested in the slightest I would 207 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: have proposed one month into the relationship. Yes, I was 208 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: this pitiful and desperate to be with her. My girlfriend 209 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: was horrified by my family's treatment of me, but she, 210 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: being her wise and compassionate self, didn't want to put 211 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: more fuel on the fire, so she kept out of it, 212 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: just there to be the rock and comfort she's always been. 213 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: When I asked her to marry me in the middle 214 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: of the night, she understood that I was thinking about 215 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: my family and how this was what I wanted to 216 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: us from them and others, my way of dealing with 217 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: the blow from my family, And she snuggled me after 218 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: saying yes, the way she always did when I'm hurt. 219 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 2: I love how the story changed like segues into I'm 220 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: the guy who didn't propose to my girlfriends. She was 221 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: fine with it for thirteen years, not the my family 222 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 2: really wanted me to pass away just so they can 223 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 2: get my money. Yeah, but oh well, all right, you 224 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: found out your family sucks. Your girlfriend's cool, go to 225 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,599 Speaker 2: the Maldives or Mexico wherever you want to go, Malaysia somewhere. 226 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: And it's just an m country. But we get a 227 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: little bit left, and I want to read this next 228 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: part before I comment her finally, was her being mischievous 229 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: because we've been together so long? She also said, I 230 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: thought you'd never ask, Also playfully, I thought. The twinkle 231 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: in her eye explained that. She then continued showing support 232 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: and reminding me that she's there when I'm ready to 233 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: talk about my family. Don't get me wrong, she's very 234 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: happy about the engagement. We both are surprisingly happy, and 235 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: it's ridiculously amazing since none of us thought it would 236 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,839 Speaker 1: be a big deal, but it is. Our relationship has 237 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: been like this very wonderful and exciting game, and we 238 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: have played all the levels, justifying another surprise level that 239 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: we didn't expect to be there. So that's all. I 240 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: just came here to defend myself because I'm petty that way. 241 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, I want to show you the ring if 242 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: you promise to keep it a secret from her, because 243 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: it won't be ready until a couple of weeks at least. 244 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: That's the end of the story. But ope, I don't 245 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: think you're like the a hole, but you are, and 246 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: you're standing. 247 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 2: On a hill. It's very funny, but like you're like 248 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: on this hill of Like really, guys, we never talked 249 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: about it. She never made any like hints towards me 250 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: about getting married. You guys are like oblivious. You guys 251 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 2: don't know me, see, which is fine. You know what, 252 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: congrats you got. You actually are getting engaged or got engaged. 253 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't think you led her on or anything. I 254 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: think you're just so oblivious, that's all. 255 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like it's fine. 256 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: Now. 257 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 2: It's very like there's the potential that his family always 258 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: was hinting, so what do you do with that money 259 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: when you pass away? 260 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: And he's just like, what do you mean? 261 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: Like, I'm just like, I'm alive. It's fine. 262 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, But that's the end of that story, folks. And 263 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: we've got another one. My sister in law confess to me, 264 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know if I should. 265 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 5: Tell my wife trick question. Your wife's gonna find out anyway. 266 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: My wife twenty seven female and I thirty two male, 267 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: have an older sister of hers will call Annie thirty 268 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: four females staying with us after her divorce about four 269 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: months ago. Apparently her ex was an awful and bad 270 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: person in general. By the way, this comes from Remote 271 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: Insect seventy two fifty six and if you want to 272 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: sumit your own stories, go to the r slash Okay, 273 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: storytime subured. 274 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 5: I'm Sophia and I'm Savannah, and we're here to give 275 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 5: good advice. 276 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Goofily, but we don't have all the answers. We only 277 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: know what we'd do, So let us know what you 278 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: would do in the comments, and op says My wife 279 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: and I are very affectionate with each other, but she 280 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: asked me to tone it down a little so her 281 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: sister wouldn't feel awkward or uncomfortable. I agreed, though it 282 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: has been hard because sometimes I forget and then feel 283 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: bad knowing Annie is there watching us. To make a 284 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: long story short, my wife went out to dinner with 285 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: her friends on Sunday. She told me she invited Annie, 286 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: but Annie declined, and she was just letting me know 287 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: Annie would be home alone when I got back. When 288 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: I arrived, Annie was sitting in the living room in 289 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: the dark. I turned on the lights and saw she 290 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: was drinking. She didn't look great, so I asked if 291 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: she was okay, but she didn't answer. I got closer 292 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: and asked again. She looked at me and said she 293 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: loved me and hated that her sister got the perfect guy. Well, 294 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: she got stuck with a loser. She said I was 295 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: a better fit for her than my wife, and rambled 296 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: on with other things I couldn't fully decipher. I immediately 297 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: told her to never say something like that again, or 298 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: I would punt her out. She started crying. I took 299 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: her to her room, cleaned up her mess, and left. 300 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: I didn't come back home until my wife told me 301 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: she was already back. Since then, Annie has been acting 302 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: like nothing happened, but I feel like she's always looking 303 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: at me, though maybe that's all in my head. The 304 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: problem is I haven't talked to my wife yet because 305 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: I know she would be devastated, and I don't know 306 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: how she would react. I've been planning to ask Annie 307 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: to move out as soon as possible and pretend this 308 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: never happened. But I've never lied to or hidden anything 309 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: from my wife before, so this doesn't feel right. I 310 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: feel guilty, but I honestly just want to do what's 311 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: best for my wife. I don't really care about Annie, 312 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: but I know my wife does and this is going 313 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: to break her, So reddit would I be the a hole? 314 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: The world is on fire? Eight through three. Seven says 315 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: you one hundred percent need to tell her. What if 316 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: Annie tells her first and spins it like you came 317 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: on to her and not vice versa, you'd be the 318 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: able if you're not honest. Dry Chain says, tell your 319 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: wife when your sister is home alone. The other day, 320 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: I came home and she was drinking in the dark. 321 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: When she saw me, she confessed she had feelings for me. 322 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: She was in a sadden vulnerable, drunken state, and it's 323 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: probably not a big deal, but I do not want 324 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: to ever be put in that situation again. Please do 325 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: not let your sister stay alone with me at the 326 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: house again and nothing whatever happen between the two of us. 327 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: But I do not want there to even be a 328 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: possibility of something looking like it might have happened and 329 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: people lying about things later. Please don't make a huge 330 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: deal of this with her, as she is clearly going 331 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: through something. But I wanted to give you full transparency 332 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: and so you can prevent this situation from happening again. 333 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,239 Speaker 1: Op He says, this is the first time we interacted 334 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: without my wife present. I don't talk much to her 335 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: because I don't really like that she's always here. Robinson 336 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: Cruz says, you need to protect your marriage more than 337 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: the sister's feelings judgment, not the A hole edit. After 338 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: reading all the replies, I decided to talk to my 339 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: wife today after work. Thank you for the feedback. I 340 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: really did want to tell my wife, but wasn't sure 341 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 1: if it was the right thing to do. And there 342 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: is an update. 343 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: Two days later. 344 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: Let's get into it seems like he's gotta tell his wife, 345 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: which I think on my end, I understand why you 346 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: were saying not to. I think I would just be 347 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: worried that there would be like Annie would do something. 348 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: I talked to my wife the day I made the 349 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: post here. I picked her up from her job and 350 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: we went to a nice restaurant near her house. We 351 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: were just having fun and relaxing, and after dinner I 352 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: told her something along the lines of how I wanted 353 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: to tell her something. I explained that it wasn't something 354 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: I meant to hide on purpose, but it was a 355 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: situation I never expected to be involved in, and I 356 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: didn't know how to react at the time. I asked 357 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: her to forgive me for not telling her sooner. I 358 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: then told her that the other day, when she was 359 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: out with her friends and said Annie was home alone, 360 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 1: I got home before her and found Annie drinking in 361 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: the dark. I told her that when I asked Annie 362 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: if she was okay, Annie told me she had feelings 363 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: for me and said it wasn't fair that my wife 364 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: got to have the good husband. I explained that I 365 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: ignored what Annie said, took her upstairs, and cleaned the 366 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: mess in the living room. I told my wife the 367 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: only reason I didn't tell her earlier was because I 368 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: wanted to believe Annie was just wasted and bitter, but 369 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: I realized it wasn't fair to keep her in the dark. 370 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: My wife was understandably upset, and we talked more about it. 371 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: She asked if Annie had ever made any other comments 372 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: like that, or if I had ever been alone with 373 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: her before. I reassured that it was the first time 374 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: and that I had never had any inappropriate feelings or 375 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: thoughts about her sister. She eventually calmed down and told 376 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: me she trusted me, but she was clearly distressed by 377 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: the situation. She said she wanted to talk to her 378 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: sister alone and asked me to drop her off at 379 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: her house and wait at my parents' place. I agreed, 380 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: but she also didn't want to punch her sister out 381 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: on the streets, so I booked an airbnb for a 382 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: week for her and then did what she asked. After 383 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: about three hours, my wife called me and asked me 384 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: to come back home. When I arrived, Annie was already 385 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: gone and my wife was on the couch with puffy eyes. 386 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: I hugged her and we went to bed. I just 387 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: held her while she cried a little, and then we 388 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: fell asleep. The next morning, my wife told me that 389 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: Annie tried to pin everything on me, which is why 390 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: that's why I think it is good that Opie told 391 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: her first, because that was what I was worried about. 392 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 3: Yep. 393 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: See, I like, I'm too nice in a way of like, well, yeah, 394 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: you would always think everyone the benefits I do. 395 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 5: I give way too many people with the benefit of 396 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 5: the doubt, and everyone's just like evil, everyone's just evil. 397 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: I don't yeah, I don't know. I mean, well, let's see, 398 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: Annie told her that I was the one who flirted 399 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: with her and asked her to sleep with me. My 400 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: wife said. She told Annie she already knew the truth, 401 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: so Annie better start speaking honestly. Annie then started crying 402 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: and said it wasn't fair that my wife got to 403 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: have a great life when she didn't, and that my 404 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: wife was always copying her and was jealous of her, 405 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: So why did she end up with a good guy 406 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: like me. My wife told her she was never jealous 407 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: and that she admired her, but not anymore. She then 408 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: asked Annie to leave and told her she had booked 409 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: an airbnb for a week and after that she was 410 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: on her own. My wife blocked Annie in every way, 411 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: and we haven't heard from her again. 412 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 5: I mean, I think ultimately OpEd did the right thing, 413 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: and I'm glad that that they had that talk and like, 414 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 5: you know, got to dish everything out before like you know, 415 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 5: having the talk, you know, and I having like the 416 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: girl talk. 417 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I I hate that the sister twisted it. 418 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 5: I just like, yeah, that was I didn't even like, 419 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 5: I don't think that way. 420 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: And even I think even if OPI had gone to 421 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: Annie and been like, hey, you have to confess, she 422 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: might have done that too. I think if if Op 423 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: were to have gone that route of you know, hey Annie, 424 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: tell your sister. I probably would have gone to the 425 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: wife first and said, hey, I have told Annie to 426 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: tell you about a situation that happened. I don't know, 427 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: maybe that sounds a little too suspicious, but I think 428 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: OP it ultimately did the right thing. Yeah, made the 429 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: right move. 430 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: I think ultimately like OP saved yourself. 431 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of heartache and a lot of trouble 432 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 4: with badly, but yeah, I mean sucks for Annie. 433 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 5: She just doesn't get to, you know, be part life, 434 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 5: and like I hate that because she very much, like 435 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: you know, was. 436 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, she was receiving a lot of kindness from 437 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: her sister and exactly you stay and was and like 438 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: her sister literally was like try not to show much 439 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: affection because of this, you know, and like was very 440 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: much like aware of what she was going through, how 441 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: she was feeling. And then you know, and then she's like, oh, 442 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: well this happened. 443 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 5: I actually no, I didn't. 444 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: But uh oh p continues. My wife said, we're okay, 445 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: but maybe couples counseling wouldn't be a bad idea, and 446 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: I agreed. Now we're looking for a therapist together. I'm 447 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: so glad Annie is finally gone and that we don't 448 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: have to deal with her again. I'm also so grateful 449 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: that my wife trusted me enough to believe me when 450 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: I talk to her. We're now making arrangements for the holidays, 451 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: and even though it's a little late, we're putting up 452 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: some decorations as well. I want to thank all of 453 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: you told me to talk to my wife. I realized 454 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: I could have lost my marriage by keeping quiet. Top 455 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: secret spy says, oh Pie, I'm glad you listened to 456 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: the near unanimous chorus from last time and did the 457 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: right thing. Or trust in you can only go up 458 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: from you making it clear that you put her first, 459 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: boys and bears her jolly fashays not the ale. Sounds 460 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: like your sister in law is having trouble coping with 461 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: her divorce, and that's likely the source of her affection 462 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: for you, If that helps either you or your wife 463 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: at all. Sometimes when people are struggling, they displace their 464 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: feelings and think they feel things for others who offer 465 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: support when it's really not that at all. That sounds 466 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: like what's going on with your sister in law. Add 467 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: booze to that, and things and the things people say 468 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: can get pretty wild. That said, when your sister in 469 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: law doubled down, claiming you are the one trying to 470 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: initiate things, she lost every bit of sympathy and understanding. 471 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: She was envious of her sister and made a conscious, 472 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: sober decision to try to destroy her sister's marriage while 473 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: at the same time using you and her sister for 474 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: shelter and comfort. Regardless of whether or not she stays blocked. 475 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: This is not someone you or your wife should ever 476 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: trust again. Your sister in law's behavior went past the 477 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: point of being upset and moved to disgusting. Please protect 478 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: yourselves and don't let this woman back in your lives. 479 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: I'm really, really sorry this happened to you and your wife. 480 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: It's terrible what your sister in law did, but you 481 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: both handled it well, which I would agree with. 482 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go 483 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 6: to the next one. 484 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 5: My wife confessed that her affair was physical right after 485 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 5: I forgave her no takebacks. I am a stay at 486 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: home dad of three kids, including one with special needs. 487 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 5: For the past couple of years, it has been a 488 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 5: slog therapist after therapist for my kiddo. With cerebral palsy, 489 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 5: two other kids in school, and NonStop responsibilities. This was 490 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 5: something we discussed many times. She works and provides financially 491 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 5: and I stay at home with the kids. By the way, 492 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 5: this comes from Watch Available forty five eighty six And 493 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 5: if you want to submit your own stories, go to 494 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 5: the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. I'm Savannah, I'm Sophia, 495 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 5: and we are here to give some good advice goofully, 496 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 5: but we don't have all the answers. We would only 497 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 5: tell you what we would do in this situation, but 498 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: we would love to know what you would do in 499 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 5: the comments. As Opie says, two years ago, she joined 500 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 5: a jim and began a relationship with John. My wife 501 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 5: and John would frequently message on Facebook about random things, 502 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 5: but things she tried to hide and delete. She lied 503 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 5: about speaking to him and about what they talked about. 504 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 5: We are done having kids, so during this time she 505 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 5: got a front airbag augmentation and a tummy tuck type procedure. 506 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 5: It felt like she was gearing up to cheat on me, 507 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 5: but she assured me it was just her way of 508 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 5: reclaiming her motherhood body. She spends an unreal amount of 509 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 5: time at the gym before work on off days, it 510 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 5: never stops. She can easily spend three to four hours there. Meanwhile, 511 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: I am at home with the kids, making breakfast and lunch, 512 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 5: getting them to school, and taking my child with cerebral 513 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 5: palsy to therapy appointments. I started to feel like a 514 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 5: single parent. While she was living her dream life at 515 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: the gym and building a career, I was treating her unfairly. 516 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 5: Last summer, she took her rings off. She did not 517 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 5: tell me directly, but she started saying we were separated, 518 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 5: even though while there were no ground roles or real discussions, 519 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 5: she continued living her life with her rings off, as 520 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 5: if a decision had already been made. We were clearly 521 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 5: in a slump. My suspicion about her relationship with John continued, 522 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 5: but our marriage went through hills and valleys. Some days 523 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 5: felt better and others felt like it was never going 524 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 5: to work. We laid out roles about John, and I 525 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 5: asked her to delete him from her phone and block him. 526 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: I said they could communicate at the gym since he 527 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: was there so much, but nowhere else. Then in June, 528 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 5: I found a text thread on her phone while trying 529 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 5: to fix it. It was messages upon messages detailing her relationship 530 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 5: with John. He is married as well. My suspicions of 531 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 5: over two years were confirmed. I knew she was cheating 532 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 5: on me. I completely lost it. I was devastated and furious. 533 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: She insisted they never had physical contact beyond holding hands 534 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 5: and hugging. She was extremely adamant that was all it 535 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 5: ever was. Things did not feel like they could get better, 536 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 5: but somehow, over the next couple of months they kind 537 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 5: of did. Or maybe I was just missing who my 538 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 5: wife used to be. I convinced myself that an emotional 539 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 5: affair was something I could forgive. I told her I 540 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: forgave her, and we recommitted to making things work. It 541 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 5: felt like we were closer and more normal than we 542 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 5: had been in a long time. She seemed open and 543 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 5: honest when I asked questions. The day after our anniversary, 544 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 5: she dropped another bombshell. She admitted the affair was physical. 545 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,719 Speaker 5: They had spicy sleep an unknown number of times in 546 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 5: his car while she was at work. She said they 547 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 5: used a Wiener wrapper. I was completely shattered. I had 548 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 5: already grieved once and now I was thrown back into 549 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 5: another wave. Of mental torment and physical PTSD. She lied again. 550 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 5: She said the last time they had spicy sleep was 551 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 5: in April. I do not know what to believe. She 552 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 5: says she felt incredibly lonely. I asked why she did 553 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: not just get a divorce, and she said she never 554 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: tended to, and that she cares deeply for our family 555 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 5: and kids. It feels completely contradictory she had spicy sleep 556 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 5: with him while also occasionally having a spicy sleep with me. 557 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 5: She never told me that I was sleeping with her 558 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 5: after she had been with him. Writing that out makes 559 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 5: me feel sick. I'm using an alternate account because there 560 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: are details that would make this story clearer, but they 561 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 5: would also make me easily identifiable through my profession and 562 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 5: past post. She says she is utterly remorseful and wants 563 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 5: to work things out. I just got tested for STDs today, 564 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 5: something I never imagined I would have to do. Yet 565 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 5: here I am. I am lost. I am a mid 566 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: thirties dad of three, and it feels like my life 567 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 5: is over. My kids are the only thing keeping me 568 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,360 Speaker 5: grounded right now. There are some comments common on one 569 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 5: three to four hours at the gym every day. That's 570 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: what I was thinking, Yeah, why when Opie said like 571 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 5: three to four hours, I. 572 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: Was like, all, no, you can do. 573 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 5: We do what like two hours at the gym and chatting? Yes, 574 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 5: and after an hour and a half, really we're done. Yeah, 575 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 5: Like honestly. 576 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: After an hour, we're done. 577 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 5: But like, like consistently, you know, there's no way she's 578 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 5: working three to four hours at the gym. 579 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: Well, she is the most jacks person ever. Yeah. 580 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 5: Either that or like she's doing like one rep and 581 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 5: then taking an hour break. 582 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: She's certainly getting her cardio. 583 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, she's getting something. When is she even home to 584 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 5: care so deeply about the kids? Opi responds, this is 585 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 5: exactly my point. She literally goes to the gym in 586 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 5: the early morning, but sometimes doesn't get home until kids 587 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 5: are on the bus. I would hate to miss waving 588 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 5: them off. I wave them off every morning. 589 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Ah oh. 590 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 5: Op responds to a longer comment regarding getting an appointment 591 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 5: with a lawyer and marriage counselor does op want to 592 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 5: reconcile and if his wife was picking John over him 593 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 5: at many times? Opie says, I'm reading through this. I 594 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 5: will add when I found said message said text messages. 595 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 5: The first thing she said was she cares about him, 596 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 5: which really pissed me off. She should care about me 597 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 5: as her husband. She finally has told him no more contact, 598 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 5: and she blocked him on every platform and said that 599 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 5: she is willing to have an open device policy. I 600 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 5: do think this is extremely remorseful, at least right now. 601 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 5: He has made some suggestive comments as a way to 602 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 5: make her feel bad. She did put her rings back on, 603 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 5: and the guy wants to reconcile to me as well. 604 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 5: AKA he reached out to me on Instagram and I 605 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 5: immediately blocked his dumb butt. Comment or two said, I've 606 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 5: said before on the sub that if my spouse was 607 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 5: one was the one to come clean about an affair, 608 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 5: I'd be likely to try to work it out. But 609 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 5: this is just this is just a disaster if you 610 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 5: decide to stay, and that's a big if. Couple's counseling, 611 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 5: quitting the gym, spending her newly available free time time 612 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 5: with the kids she allegedly cares deeply for. But this 613 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 5: all hinges on one question. Do you even want to 614 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 5: work things out? Seriously? Ignore everything I just suggested, ignore 615 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 5: any stay, leave, crucify her in the divorce or other comments. 616 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 5: Take some time and really ask yourself, do you want 617 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 5: to try to work this out? COMMENTO three says, thank 618 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,959 Speaker 5: you for putting the question into words that I've been 619 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 5: trying to do myself in another thread. The real question 620 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 5: is what is she doing to want to make him stay? 621 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 5: Opie response, That's what I'm thinking from the beginning. I'm 622 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 5: convinced she had a plan or deep intention, but she 623 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 5: says things just kind of. 624 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: Fell that way. Yeah right. 625 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 5: She says they were just friends first. But if that's 626 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 5: the case, why did she delete all of her messages 627 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 5: from him when I first saw them. That first happened 628 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 5: like one and a half years ago. This has been 629 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: crappy since the start. Comment to four says, your mistake 630 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 5: was thinking any sort of affair would be less harmful. 631 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 5: An affair is an affair, regardless getting physical or not. 632 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 5: Have you wondered why did she have this surge of 633 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 5: honesty so suddenly. I imagine her affair has gone sour. 634 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 5: She's afraid of being dumped by you and is trying 635 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 5: to keep you around. I won't be the one to 636 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 5: tell you how you should take on your life, OPI. 637 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 5: You are the only one who knows how hard this 638 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: hurt you and how bad you are now. However, I'd 639 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 5: recommend you to take your feelings in consideration this time. 640 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 5: May you find the inner strength to take the best 641 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: decision of for your happiness and for your emotional health. 642 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 5: OHP responds, You're not wrong. Things did get sour after 643 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 5: I found these texts. She immediately ceased that relationship and 644 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 5: blocked him. I think that's why she wants to start 645 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 5: fresh and continue our relationship. She's giving me contradictory information 646 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 5: that it only happened because she was separated and she 647 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 5: was extremely lonely, but then said she doesn't want to 648 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 5: leave her family and that we mean so much to her. 649 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 5: I asked her, plainly, did you think about us when 650 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 5: you were having spice time in his car? 651 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:02,640 Speaker 1: Update? 652 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 5: My wife of thirteen years confessed about an affair about 653 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 5: three months ago. She told me the day after our 654 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 5: anniversary that they had spicy sleep often. Nearly three months later, 655 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: I debated on whether or not I really wanted to 656 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 5: write an update or not. Life has been really a 657 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 5: whirlwind of emotion since that point. For all those people 658 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 5: who gave me encouragement and advice, I really appreciate you 659 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 5: more than you know, we SAWT counseling pretty much asap 660 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: since all this shook out, which has been a somewhat 661 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 5: positive experience, I think for both of us. Overall, this 662 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 5: update is really effing boring. Okay, but maybe I need 663 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 5: an outlet right now because I'm feeling it hard today. 664 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 5: Generally speaking, things just are right now. Some days feel 665 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: more hopeful than others. But we are decently committed to 666 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: making this work for now. 667 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: Decently committed is just a horrid thing kind of about it. 668 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: We're just like it's gonna work today. It is like 669 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 1: I just really don't wanna. Yeah, most days it's kind 670 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: of I don't really want to. But you know, she's 671 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: she's got one ring on right now. It's not on 672 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: her ring finger, but you know, compromise, but I gave 673 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: it to her. Yeah, circle, And it's also not her 674 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: wedding ring, but I did. I did give it to her. 675 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: I got it from It's a ring pop. Oh it's 676 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: oh yes, yes, it's a ring a ring pop. 677 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 5: But we are decently committed to making this work for now, 678 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 5: especially given our situation with our kids, specifically our son. 679 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 5: Our therapy sessions tend to work on our communication and 680 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 5: forward progress. It's not hard to gripe or look for 681 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 5: some sort of validation of my frustrations with my wife 682 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 5: about how things shook out or what I experienced, although 683 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 5: she is entitled to her feelings about how I approach 684 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 5: the relationship in the. 685 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: Beginning, which she swears was merely friendly. 686 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 5: In the beginning. Although the more I think about it, 687 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 5: the more it feels like I'm being. 688 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: Gaslighted by my wife. 689 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 5: You are, and maybe a little bit by our therapist. 690 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 5: I generally do not have a problem with my wife 691 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 5: having male friends, and even when we were having a 692 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 5: hard time, I felt that I made my boundary extremely clear. Initially, 693 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 5: when they were just friends, she would message him like regularly, 694 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 5: going into topics that felt boundary crossing. In this she says, 695 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 5: they were just friends, but now I don't think I'm 696 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 5: comfortable with her having friends like that again. And I 697 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 5: told her that I am a little upset because reflecting 698 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 5: on things now makes me feel like both my wife 699 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 5: and our therapists made it seem like I'm letting my 700 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 5: anxiety get the. 701 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: Best of me. 702 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 5: We have moved toward an open device policy. Really on 703 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 5: her end, we have set new boundaries about relationships and 704 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 5: maintaining these relationships. Although now that I read and type 705 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 5: this out, I really feel like I'm giving more than 706 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 5: what she ever had to. Even though she's the one 707 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 5: who decided to pursue a runaway relationship with another man. 708 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: She states she didn't feel safe in our marriage and 709 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 5: pursue this relationship. I'm so conflicted on how to feel 710 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 5: about everything. As I type this, I'm learning to rebuild 711 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 5: my trust in her. I need to feel safe again. 712 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 5: I want to feel like this was her character flaw 713 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 5: rather than a reaction to how she felt I treated her. 714 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 5: She says she felt unsafe, frustrated, unloved. I am not 715 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: saying those things aren't untrue, because she is entitled to 716 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,439 Speaker 5: her own feelings, but it feels like an excuse. Things 717 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 5: were rocky for a while, but she feels that we 718 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 5: were not doing well before I had issues with her 719 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 5: communication with this guy. That feels incorrect because since that moment, 720 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 5: I know I've been short with her, and with good reason. 721 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 5: She literally lied about the amount of communication they had together. 722 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 5: Feels like I'm being gas lit because she made it 723 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 5: seem like friends have that regular amount of communication. Some 724 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 5: days we end in fights mainly about my tone or 725 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 5: my reaction. It feels like a broken record. She constantly 726 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 5: criticizes how I communicate with her or our kids. It 727 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 5: feels like it never ends, and this is something she 728 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 5: continually goes back to as a reason for her abandonment. 729 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 5: But some days it feels like it ends more peacefully 730 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 5: in calm. I guess going back to why I decided 731 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 5: to write today was really about feeling effing worthless. I 732 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,320 Speaker 5: feel absolutely unfit and unworthy. I let my wife trample 733 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 5: on me, and she makes me feel that it really 734 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 5: was my fault for her actions. It feels that the 735 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 5: therapist also wants me to understand these flaws and how 736 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 5: they shape the events that happen. I don't know, but 737 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 5: maybe the therapist is right. I am noticeably anxious about 738 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 5: anything my wife does, and I feel that it won't change. 739 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 5: I will always worry about who she's talking to. She 740 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 5: says she's committed to our relationship, but it feels. 741 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 6: Like such a crappy excuse. 742 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 5: I told her that's what you said on our wedding day, 743 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,720 Speaker 5: and look at this effing messof I wish my update 744 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 5: contained more substance. I wish part of me could say 745 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 5: I left her cheating, but God alimony slash child support. 746 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: God abs it. 747 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 5: Met someone new, God abs buddy. I can't do that 748 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 5: right now. I try to stay busy at work and 749 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,280 Speaker 5: at home. 750 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: Edit. 751 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 5: Just for clarity's sake, my wife did make it abundantly 752 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 5: clear that she wants nothing to do with him. In 753 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 5: more ways than one, He's been finding ways to continue 754 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 5: to seek her attention. He even wrote an email to 755 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 5: her and she showed me immediately. Okay, well that's growth. 756 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 5: But also I don't know. 757 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think ope, just in 758 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: the way that you're writing this it, I don't know 759 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: if you can, if you want to work it out. 760 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like you're there. 761 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 5: It doesn't seem like it's ever gonna get better to you, op, 762 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 5: because it seems like you're always going to think about this. 763 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 5: This is just always going to be on your mind. 764 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 5: And sometimes that's how people react. And that's okay, that's 765 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 5: just how you are. 766 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: Incredibly reasonable reaction. 767 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, like you, this is way validated. But I I 768 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 5: just think that now you're just trying to work it 769 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 5: out when it's not not going to work. Yeah, it's 770 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 5: and that's just that's just the way it is, and 771 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,479 Speaker 5: it's and you know, it happens to a lot of people. 772 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,399 Speaker 5: You're not the one, so you know. But there are 773 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 5: some comments. Comment to one, I'm sorry, dude, I guess 774 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 5: you decided to stay. I know I wouldn't. It's easier 775 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 5: said than done. Yes, but she lied, lied and lied. 776 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,479 Speaker 5: I'm sure there's more lies in there too. Opie says, 777 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 5: my decision to stay isn't set in stone. It's built 778 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 5: on the idea that we are extremely fragile and she 779 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 5: has to put in the work. If not, or if 780 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 5: she crosses our transparent boundary, I'm not giving her a 781 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 5: third chance. Comment to two, I'm curious. Have you informed 782 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 5: his wife? Has she cut contact with him? Does she 783 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 5: still go to the gym? What is she doing to 784 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,880 Speaker 5: make this work on her end? Please elaborate. I'm genuinely curious. 785 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 5: I would like to know how you're doing to be 786 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 5: able to move forward in this. I'm sorry you're going 787 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 5: through this update mate, Opie says, as far as I know, 788 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 5: he and his wife are separated and made that an agreement. 789 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 5: So to him and his wife, he was within his 790 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 5: own rights, That's all. 791 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,280 Speaker 6: Hearsay. 792 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 5: Though, and I'd rather not think about it anymore. Does 793 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 5: my wife go to the gym, buddy? Let me tell 794 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 5: you she's still addicted to it. Goes every day in 795 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 5: the am since me and my kids are still sleeping. 796 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 5: Still works out for three to four hours at a 797 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 5: time usually, although she is quite social when she goes, 798 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 5: which is why it takes her so long. She finds 799 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 5: that her identity really relies on her ability to maintain 800 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 5: this gym time. 801 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: I've noticed. 802 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 5: I think if you took it away from her, I 803 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 5: don't know what she would do. COMMENTO two says fine, 804 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 5: I can understand that, Jim, But is the same gym? 805 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 2: Like? 806 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 5: Is this just business as usual? They still attend the 807 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 5: gym together? Please, I hope not. You can't be that naive. 808 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 5: There has to be some consequences, at least in my experience. 809 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 5: If nothing changes, nothing changes. What has she done exactly 810 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,560 Speaker 5: in this reconciliation to prove to you that you're not 811 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 5: her second choice? Opie responds, it is not the same gym. 812 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 5: Although it's funny when she complains about not being able 813 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 5: to go there mainly because of her old friend group 814 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 5: and proximity to our house. It makes me want to 815 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 5: stare at her and laugh as if she didn't cause 816 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 5: that entire problem. 817 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: That's ridiculous. I would be so frustrated if she was like, oh, 818 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: I just missed the old gem like blah blah blah. 819 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, maybe you shouldn't have pooped where 820 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 1: you work out. 821 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 5: Oohoo, don't poop at your gym, don't poop, don't poop there, 822 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 5: don't poop where you lift comment to three. Fire your therapist, 823 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 5: whoever they are, they suck. You need to find one 824 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 5: specializing in infidelity who will hold her feet through the fire. 825 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 5: Unless your therapist holds that line, then no matter what 826 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 5: was going on in the marriage, cheating is inexcusable, and 827 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 5: that the first priority is to deal with your pain 828 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 5: and the nuclear bomb that your wife chose to blow 829 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,720 Speaker 5: up in the middle of your marriage. They are crap 830 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 5: and completely unqualified to do their job. Good luck ohe 831 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 5: He responds, she has tried EMDR therapy for my trauma. 832 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 5: I believe they are qualified at least somewhat, but I 833 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 5: wish she would be more assertive about protecting me given 834 00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 5: what transpired, although to that effect, I know she needs 835 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 5: to remain neutral, so I'm not sure what good therapy 836 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 5: looks like. Comment refour says, find a new couple's therapists 837 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 5: because yours sounds very biased, and I really suggest individual 838 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 5: therapy because you need a space away from her to 839 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 5: work through this. Opie response. I agree, I think individual 840 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 5: therapy would really help me. Comment refive says, never ever 841 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 5: be a stay at home dad. Women lose all respect 842 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,400 Speaker 5: for their house. Okay, that is stupid comment. Stupid comment. 843 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're skipping your studio. 844 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 5: My there's a there's a second up day, let's just 845 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 5: get into it. 846 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,360 Speaker 1: I've given my advice. I think individual therapy is a 847 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: great idea. 848 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,760 Speaker 6: I mean, just just leave. 849 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 5: Op That's why that's my thing. Just leave, just get 850 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 5: out there. It's not getting better. Update two self esteem 851 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 5: repair following affairs, same day, different subreddit. Oh my wife 852 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,280 Speaker 5: at thirteen years cheated on me. We have been seeking 853 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 5: counseling and trying to work through it, although today I'm 854 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 5: realizing that I have literally no self esteem anymore. Dang, 855 00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 5: she works out constantly while I may stay at home 856 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 5: parent and it shows nout. Going into my past or 857 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 5: if you need context, you can go into my post history. 858 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 5: How do you begin to love yourself again, especially since 859 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 5: I have decided to stay. 860 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: That's the thing. If you're finding that you can't love yourself, 861 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: that your self esteem is just gone, then maybe the 862 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: only way that you can love yourself is to leave. 863 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 6: And that's the end of this story. We're going to 864 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 6: go to the next one. 865 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,759 Speaker 3: Hey, it's Smiley Ry of the Year from ok Story Tom. 866 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 3: We're going to get back to these stories, but here's 867 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 3: three minutes worth of ads from our sponsors. 868 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: I accidentally ruined Mother's Day for my in law's because 869 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't keep quiet. 870 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 3: You just had to be a little church mouse. 871 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: I thirty eight female, have been married to my husband 872 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: forty one male for seven years this coming June, and 873 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: we have been together for nine years total. We have 874 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: two children, twin boys who are five months old. This 875 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: is not easy for me to write, but I need 876 00:41:58,640 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: to get it all out. 877 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 3: Oh no oh no, no oh no. 878 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from inside Ingenuity six seven 879 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: six And if you would to submit your own stories, 880 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: go to the r slash Okay Storytime subredd at. 881 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 3: I'm Sophia, I'm Dakota. 882 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: And I'm Vincent and that's Carly and we're here to 883 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: give good advice, goofy, but we don't have all the answers. 884 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: We only know what we do, So let us know 885 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: what you would do in the comments, and Ope says. 886 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 1: Two weeks before Mother's Day, I found out my husband 887 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: had been cheating on me for at least seven months. 888 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,040 Speaker 1: Happy Mother's Day, Ouch. I used his phone to order 889 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 1: lawn chairs on the Loew's app since it's tied to 890 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 1: our card and I wanted to use our rewards. While 891 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 1: I was looking for the set I wanted, he received 892 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: a snapchat notification from a woman. I didn't even know 893 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: he had Snapchat, so it caught my attention at the 894 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 1: time my husband was outside mowing the grass. I opened 895 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: the snap and it was a spicy pic of a 896 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: woman who looked to be in her mid twenties, with 897 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:05,280 Speaker 1: the caption ew with a gross caption. 898 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 7: That's what I'll say, Hey, I missed it when we 899 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 7: were bumping uglies the other day, Just like a caption 900 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 7: that just says, yeah, we have made relations with one 901 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 7: another and I'd like to do it again. 902 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: My jaw hit the floor. I started going through his 903 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: text messages, but there were no conversations with other women. 904 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: There only harmless messages from employees at his dermatology practice. 905 00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: That made my stomach sink even more. I checked his 906 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: Snapchat and saw no chat history with her, which I 907 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: assume is because he deletes everything. Well, it deletes itself, 908 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: That's why people use Snapchat. I am not familiar with Snapchat, 909 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: so I googled how it works while trying to see 910 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: if deleted messages could be recovered. I did not want 911 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: to waste the short time I had while he was 912 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: still mowing, so I gave up. I did scroll through 913 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: his friend's list and ended up taking photos of it 914 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: with my phone. I continued checking his apps and everything 915 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:08,360 Speaker 1: seemed normal until I found a secure folder. It required 916 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: a password, and after trying a few I figured it out. 917 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: The pass code was the date of our first date, 918 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: which felt especially cruel. That is insane, yeah, to put 919 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: the date of your first date, like your anniversary date, 920 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: as the password to your hidden cheating folder. Inside there 921 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 1: were dozens of spicy photos of at least three women, 922 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 1: including the woman from Snapchat. I recognized her immediately because 923 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: she has a very distinct tattoo on her stomach. Along 924 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,320 Speaker 1: with the photos, there were two videos of that same 925 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,560 Speaker 1: woman doing spozy stuff with him. My heart felt like 926 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: it was going to explode out of my chest. I 927 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: started shaking and crying uncontrollably. I forced myself to Breathe 928 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: grabbed my phone and started taking pictures of everything. I 929 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: recorded short clips of the videos because I could not 930 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: bring myself to watch them fully. I went through his 931 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: phone again and realized he might have hidden apps. I 932 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: googled how to find hidden apps on Android and followed 933 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: the steps. Three apps were hidden, two messaging apps and 934 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,800 Speaker 1: a hookup app called adult friend Finder. Right, a hookup 935 00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 1: app called adult friend Finding. 936 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 3: Maybe that's just harmless, you know, maybe he's just looking 937 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 3: for friends who are adults. 938 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: I debated opening them because I was terrified of what 939 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 1: I would see, but I needed to know. He had 940 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 1: been messaging at least four different women, including the woman 941 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: from the videos. I found proof that he had spicy 942 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 1: sleep with at least two of them. All of the 943 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 1: messages made me sick, but the ones from the video 944 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: woman shattered me completely. 945 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 3: Not the video woman, not the videop Oh. 946 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: I had to stop and throw up from the stress 947 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: and anxiety. 948 00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 3: That's terrible. Yeah, I'd be disappearing. 949 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: Oh this is so awful. Some of the messages that 950 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: hurt me the most were burned into my mind. She 951 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: asked him to tell her how much better her body 952 00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 1: was than mine, and he did. She sent a spicy 953 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: pick and asked how her body compared to mine, and 954 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: he told her there was no comparison and called her 955 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:19,239 Speaker 1: a goddess. Reading those words broke something in me. I 956 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 1: had just given birth to twins five months earlier. I 957 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: was already incredibly insecure about my body, my weight, and 958 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: my C section scar. I was about twenty five pounds 959 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: heavier than before pregnancy. My husband and I stopped having 960 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: spicy sleep about two months before I gave birth because 961 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: it was painful for me, which lines up with when 962 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,280 Speaker 1: he started messaging these women. Since the twins were born, 963 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,839 Speaker 1: we had only had spicy sleep about three times due 964 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,319 Speaker 1: to my exhaustion and insecurity while caring for and breastfeeding them, 965 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: I took photos of everything I found. The earliest messages 966 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,280 Speaker 1: were from seven months earlier, which means this started while 967 00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: I was pregnant. 968 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 3: The good old classic. This guy is terrible, Let's throw 969 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:06,839 Speaker 3: him in the pit. 970 00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: I also discovered that the night after my C section, 971 00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: while our premature twins were in the NICUU. He met 972 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: the video woman at her apartment. He told me he 973 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: was getting food and checking on his office. Anything could 974 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: have happened to our babies and he would not have 975 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: been there. I closed all the apps, made sure the 976 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,799 Speaker 1: hidden ones were hidden again, and put his phone back 977 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: exactly where I found it. I cleared the Snapchat notification 978 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 1: and hoped he would not notice. Then I called my 979 00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: best friend of over thirty three years, who was also 980 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: my business partner. I told him everything and completely fell apart. 981 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: He helped me calm down and told me not to 982 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: confront my husband yet. He advised me to speak with 983 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: divorce lawyers immediately and to meet with the best ones 984 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: so they could not represent my husband. He also offered 985 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,440 Speaker 1: me and the twins a place to stay, as saying 986 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: his husband would be happy to us. His support kept 987 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 1: me standing. Over the next week, my best friend helped 988 00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,920 Speaker 1: me with the twins while I met with five divorce lawyers. 989 00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: I hired the one I felt was the best. She 990 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: advised me not to leave the family home, so I stayed. 991 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,320 Speaker 1: She immediately started the divorce paperwork while I pretended nothing 992 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 1: was wrong and tried to keep everything normal. Mother's Day 993 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: arrived and my husband made me breakfast in bed. He 994 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 1: gave me expensive jewelry flowers and made a big show 995 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,120 Speaker 1: of it. I could not enjoy any of it because 996 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: it felt fake. Well it is, but I pretended to 997 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,360 Speaker 1: be happy. That afternoon, my husband's father hosted a cookout 998 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: for Mother's Day. Everyone attending had a baby under a 999 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 1: year old, so was everyone's first Mother's Day except my 1000 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: mother in law. I told my husband I didn't feel 1001 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,239 Speaker 1: like going, but he guilted me by saying his dad 1002 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,799 Speaker 1: had a big surprise for me. I reluctantly agreed and 1003 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: asked if my best friend could come since his mother 1004 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,359 Speaker 1: passed away the year before. My father in law said yes. 1005 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: I planned to act like nothing was wrong and focus 1006 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: on my twins. I am closest to my sister in law, Julie, 1007 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: who introduced me to my husband ten years ago. At first, 1008 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 1: the day was actually nice. My husband and the men cooked, 1009 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: the woman held the babies, and my best friend helped 1010 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,759 Speaker 1: in the kitchen so the moms could relax. After we ate, 1011 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: my mother in law started taking pictures. She told my 1012 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 1: husband to sit next to me and put his arm 1013 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 1: around me. She jokingly said, pretend like you love her. 1014 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 3: Oh nah, this is you didn't. Okay, you've done. The 1015 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 3: only one who ruined Mother's Day is your terrible husband. 1016 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 3: And yeah, like I would struggle to hold it together 1017 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 3: for any amount of times, Yeah, that's with them. With 1018 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 3: that being said, no, it's over. 1019 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm sobbing. It's over, and I completely broke down. I 1020 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,920 Speaker 1: started sobbing uncontrollably. My in laws hugged me, and my 1021 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: best friend stood by my side. My father in law 1022 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,880 Speaker 1: asked what was wrong. I looked at my best friend 1023 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: and he gave me a look that said I could 1024 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: tell if I wanted. I told him that my husband 1025 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,320 Speaker 1: has been cheating on me for at least seven months. 1026 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: My husband immediately denied it, saying it wasn't true and 1027 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,080 Speaker 1: that we were his whole world. I told them about 1028 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: the messages, photos, videos, and apps. He looked faint and 1029 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: sat down after a long silence. Julie asked him why, 1030 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 1: and he claimed he only talked to women and never 1031 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: physically cheated. But she just said, I've got messages, videos, 1032 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,160 Speaker 1: What did you think the videos were of? What did 1033 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 1: you think the videos were of? 1034 00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 3: I just once I'd like to see him go yeah, 1035 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 3: he got me. No I did. 1036 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 1: I did all that. 1037 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 3: No, it was this, No it was that, No, it 1038 00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 3: was this, and then yeah I did. Just say it. 1039 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 3: Just say it, Just do it. 1040 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: You've already been caught. 1041 00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 3: We've caught redhand. 1042 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1043 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 8: I had a weird one though, where one time I 1044 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 8: accused someone of it and they fully just went, yeah 1045 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 8: it went okay, Why Andy went I don't know, Well. 1046 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't know what to do there either. My 1047 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,920 Speaker 1: best friend called him a liar. I showed messages and 1048 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 1: explained everything, including the videos. My husband kept denying at 1049 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: even claiming that messages about spicy Sleep were just role playing. 1050 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 1: When Julie's husband grabbed his phone to look, my husband 1051 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 1: snatched it back. At that point, my mother in law, 1052 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,600 Speaker 1: Julie and Fran were crying. My brother in law, Chris 1053 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,719 Speaker 1: started yelling at me, saying I ruined Mother's Day and 1054 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,120 Speaker 1: that this was not the time or place. I'm sorry, 1055 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Did op breaking down and crying seem like 1056 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: she meant to bring this up on Mother's Day. Maybe 1057 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: we should have a little bit of tact and be like, oh, oh, 1058 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 1: the guy that cheated on her for seven months on 1059 00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: his pregnant wife. Maybe that's the person I should be blaming. 1060 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 3: Mother's Day, can't. I can't blame him, he's my brother. 1061 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: Julie defended me and said my husband ruined it. Fran 1062 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,240 Speaker 1: agreed with Chris and said I was wrong for bringing 1063 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:15,520 Speaker 1: it up. Truly insane. Truly insane to see your sister 1064 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: in law sobbing uncontrollably and be like, how dare you 1065 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: bring this up at Mother's Day? 1066 00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 3: She's be like, oh, here she goes again. 1067 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: Always sobbing uncontrollably. This girl. 1068 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 3: It's always about me, me, me with this one, isn't it? Ah? Yeah, yeai. 1069 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: Both of my twins started crying and I needed to leave. 1070 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: I asked my best friend to take me home and 1071 00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: we move the car seats outside. My mother in law 1072 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,799 Speaker 1: told me I should have kept it to myself and 1073 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,640 Speaker 1: that future Mother's days would now be tainted. I ignored 1074 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,760 Speaker 1: her and left. My husband stayed at his parents' house 1075 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 1: for two nights. My father in law later told me 1076 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,279 Speaker 1: I did not ruin Mother's Day. My husband did. He 1077 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: said he understood why I broke down. He admitted that 1078 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,680 Speaker 1: some family members were still angry with me, but he 1079 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: believed they would get over it. I still feel horrible 1080 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,360 Speaker 1: and guilty for letting everything come out that day. I 1081 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: keep replaying it over and over in my head. Am 1082 00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:21,280 Speaker 1: I the a hole? No? No, you literally were keeping 1083 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:26,000 Speaker 1: it in and then you just broke down. It happens, It. 1084 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,760 Speaker 3: Happens, not an a hole for a second. I wouldn't 1085 00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,799 Speaker 3: have even gone. I would have been like, oh, yeah, 1086 00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,640 Speaker 3: I don't know. I can't, I can't do it. 1087 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: Gilt tripped her into going No. 1088 00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,879 Speaker 3: I would have just been like, I'm ill, I'm physically ill. 1089 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,400 Speaker 3: I can't do it. Yeah, no, I can't even be. 1090 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,799 Speaker 3: I can't pretend. I can't pretend to be love you 1091 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 3: and be around you and your whole family when I 1092 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 3: know this stuff. And that's the end of this story. 1093 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 3: We're gonna go on to the next one. Hey, it's Angie, 1094 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,839 Speaker 3: your favorite of fashion host. Here. We're going to get 1095 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:55,720 Speaker 3: back to the stories. 1096 00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 5: But here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 1097 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 3: I had an a with my engaged coworker, and now 1098 00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 3: she's calling me the cheater. 1099 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,920 Speaker 6: Well you kind of both the cheaters, right. 1100 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of. It takes two scenarios. 1101 00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 1: She's doing a lot worse though. 1102 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 3: I twenty nine male, met this girl, Diane, twenty four female, 1103 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 3: in May or June of last year. We work in 1104 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 3: the same youth sports organization and crossed paths. One day 1105 00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,959 Speaker 3: I had no immediate feelings towards Diane. I just thought 1106 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 3: she was cute. One night, we finally got to sit 1107 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 3: down and talk about softball and life. We learned that's 1108 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:41,040 Speaker 3: what did it. These people live in the Midwest. We 1109 00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 3: learned a few things about each other, and I ended 1110 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 3: up challenging her in simple skills competitions since the facility 1111 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,360 Speaker 3: was empty. This story comes from I'm not very sneaky, 1112 00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,200 Speaker 3: and if you want to submit your own story, go 1113 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 3: to the r slash. Okay, storytime Separate at I'm Dakota, 1114 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,440 Speaker 3: I'm Keon, and we are here to give good advice. 1115 00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 3: But we are goofballs. You don't always have the right 1116 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 3: advice or any advice. Some things are out of our purview. 1117 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,480 Speaker 6: This goofy ball. 1118 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're balls at goof So. 1119 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 3: If you were like, I know the thing, tell us 1120 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 3: in the comments and Op says, some of the info 1121 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,319 Speaker 3: I found out was that she was engaged. So you're 1122 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 3: both dirty, little scoundrel cheaters. 1123 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,160 Speaker 6: Okay, he just found out. 1124 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 8: So now what he does next will decide if he's 1125 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 8: a dirty scoundrel, cheater or oh. 1126 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,799 Speaker 3: As we were going through the different competitions, I could 1127 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 3: tell she was having fun but getting frustrated because I 1128 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,680 Speaker 3: continuously beat her at everything. I wonder how or why hmm, 1129 00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 3: So I decided we halt the games and work on 1130 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 3: why she was struggling. Due to the nature of the sport, 1131 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 3: I had to physically work with her movements. I was 1132 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 3: extremely respectful towards her boundaries, asking if I could move 1133 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 3: and touch her so that I could put her in 1134 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 3: good positions. A Slutely, nothing spicy happened, but I did 1135 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,879 Speaker 3: feel a spark. My flirty side started to show a bit. 1136 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,520 Speaker 3: We stayed at the facility until like two or three am, 1137 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 3: just enjoying each other's company. At the end of the night, 1138 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,839 Speaker 3: we both knew there was chemistry between us. We hung 1139 00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,920 Speaker 3: out like that a good handful of times, sometimes staying 1140 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:24,799 Speaker 3: up well past sunrise. Dude, you are you were a cheater? 1141 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 1142 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 7: You know? 1143 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,360 Speaker 6: Now you know that she's engaged. 1144 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 2: This is this is on you. 1145 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 3: She called me the cheater, but I felt the spark. 1146 00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,640 Speaker 3: She did not go back to her fiance sometimes until 1147 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 3: maybe seven, eight, or even nine am the next day. 1148 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,399 Speaker 3: Eventually it got to the point where it's obvious we 1149 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,360 Speaker 3: like one another. We flirt all the time, we spend 1150 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 3: large amount of time together. One night, we found ourselves 1151 00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,840 Speaker 3: in the parking lot of a high school talking and 1152 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,359 Speaker 3: flirting up a storm. I drew the line and said, 1153 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,319 Speaker 3: where is this going. You're engaged, I'm single. We can't 1154 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,840 Speaker 3: keep doing this. It's not right or fair to your fiance. Well, 1155 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 3: that triggered a huge discussion, which wound up in us 1156 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:11,400 Speaker 3: embracing and her kissing me with our hands starting to wander. 1157 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: See. I think my. 1158 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 8: Problem is Opie's trying to make it sound like he's 1159 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 8: totally innocent in this whole thing, Like, well, she kissed 1160 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 8: me and I was like yeah, and then our hands 1161 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,840 Speaker 8: started to wander, like dude, you know what's happening. 1162 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 3: Eventually she spoke to me about leaving her fiance, not 1163 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,280 Speaker 3: because of me, but apparently she has been extremely unhappy. 1164 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 3: He's been neglectful, and it was like living with a roommate, 1165 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 3: not a significant other. 1166 00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 2: But you opened her eyes more, Opie, So technically at 1167 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 2: the very end of the day, also was. 1168 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 3: You I was on board with her decision. I had 1169 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 3: feelings for her. As the days went along through June 1170 00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 3: into July twenty twenty three, we ended up sleep together 1171 00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 3: multiple times. 1172 00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 6: God, I never would have guessed. 1173 00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,600 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm into her, but I'll wait. 1174 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 3: She had stayed at my place dozens of times, lying 1175 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 3: to her fiance with excuses about girls' night out. I 1176 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 3: did voice my concern about her still waiting to end 1177 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,880 Speaker 3: things with him, because it was making me uncomfortable that 1178 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 3: I had laid in bed with her while she was 1179 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 3: on the phone with him or picking her up from 1180 00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,280 Speaker 3: his place. I am not really sure why I didn't 1181 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 3: end things, but I just stuck the course until around 1182 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 3: either the last week of June or the first week 1183 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 3: of July twenty three. I got crushed. I put pressure 1184 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 3: on about ending things with him or I have to go. 1185 00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: Wait. 1186 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,480 Speaker 6: I thought she did end things with him. 1187 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 3: No, she just said was like I'm going to. It 1188 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 3: was just I'm going to. I remember having a phone 1189 00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 3: call with her and I told her, you've been talking 1190 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,479 Speaker 3: about ending things with this dude, but you never did. 1191 00:58:57,720 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 3: Almost like you're trying to want your cake and eat 1192 00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 3: it too. Either I had to go or Diane's fiance 1193 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 3: had to go that night. She ended up dropping me. 1194 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,959 Speaker 3: I was hurt, fuming, and pissed off. 1195 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 2: This guy really thought, He's like, yeah, I have a 1196 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: better chance. 1197 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: Don't understand I taught her softball form. 1198 00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,200 Speaker 6: She has to stay with me. 1199 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 3: I immediately deleted everything about her messages, contact information, everything. All 1200 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 3: that love I had turned straight into hate. I stayed 1201 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 3: strong and didn't pick up any of her calls. I 1202 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 3: even walked past her with a smile at work, not 1203 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 3: acknowledging her one bit. When that all happened, I met 1204 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 3: Tris twenty one female through a friend. Tris was a 1205 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 3: very attractive girl, athletic and seemed to be down to earth. 1206 00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 3: She was stunning, but I did not pursue. I didn't 1207 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 3: have the confidence, nor was I really over Diane. May ninth, 1208 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four rolled around. After not speaking with Diane, 1209 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:04,080 Speaker 3: I finally broke and responded. Diane and I had a 1210 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 3: phone conversation that night. She laid it all out, her feelings, thoughts, everything, 1211 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 3: which convinced me to just be friends with her, and 1212 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 3: I reluctantly agree. 1213 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 2: What is going on here? 1214 01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 3: Why would you do this? 1215 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,400 Speaker 2: You're like, you see this mess that you have also 1216 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 2: are creating, and you're like, let me get my trash 1217 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 2: and throw it in there. I'll maybe get clean right now, 1218 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,320 Speaker 2: let's clean that up. 1219 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just just stay away, stay away from her. 1220 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 3: You're both like toxic. Just stay away from each other. 1221 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,640 Speaker 3: She was still with her fiance, and in my mind, 1222 01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 3: she screwed me over, so I labeled her as a 1223 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 3: walking red flag. This guy's about to lay out Diane's 1224 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 3: red flags and you'll never guess what the first one is. 1225 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 2: One number one me. 1226 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, Diane's red flags. Cheated emotionally and physically on her 1227 01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 3: fiance with me. 1228 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 1: This depoot with me. 1229 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 3: She lied to both me and fiance, led me on 1230 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:11,000 Speaker 3: only friends with males because Diane doesn't get along well 1231 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 3: with women. Didn't actually break things off with X until 1232 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,640 Speaker 3: much later. Emotionally cheated and planned to physically cheat with 1233 01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 3: another dude on her snapchat before ME found this out 1234 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 3: way later while snooping. As each day went by, Diane 1235 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:32,600 Speaker 3: and I had small conversations at the facility, nothing more 1236 01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 3: than casual conversation. So one night, Diane, Tris Vina twenty 1237 01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 3: seven female, and another friend all ended up at the facility. 1238 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,920 Speaker 3: Tris and Vina were already best friends. Diane was introduced 1239 01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,280 Speaker 3: last to the group. We all hung out talking and 1240 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,320 Speaker 3: messing around. All four of us continued to hang out 1241 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 3: as a group. July eighteenth, twenty twenty three, Diane starts 1242 01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,960 Speaker 3: to grill me about Tris, asking if I think Tris 1243 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,080 Speaker 3: is interested in me. I said no. At the same time, 1244 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 3: Diane began to finagle herself back into an intimate friends 1245 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,000 Speaker 3: with benefits type thing with me, although she was still 1246 01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 3: with her fiance. I told her nothing more than friends 1247 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 3: with benefits. The last week of July came about and 1248 01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 3: she finally calls everything off with her fiance. She didn't 1249 01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 3: run to anyone but me to help her pick up 1250 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,120 Speaker 3: the pieces. In all honesty, it was weird how she 1251 01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:33,600 Speaker 3: handled the breakup, almost emotionless. She just moved on like 1252 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 3: six years were nothing to her. About the twenty fourth 1253 01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 3: of July, there was a pool party at my friend's 1254 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 3: stepfather's place. Diane, Tris, Vina, and a few other friends 1255 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 3: were invited. According to one of my buddies, Diane was 1256 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 3: complaining and upset with the fact I was giving everyone else, 1257 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,520 Speaker 3: especially Tris, my attention, which was completely untrue. Diane separated 1258 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,040 Speaker 3: herself from the group. She told me she was jealous 1259 01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 3: of me throwing and tossing everyone around. I told her, 1260 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,160 Speaker 3: we are grown people who happened to be athletes playing 1261 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 3: keep away in the pool. Everyone was playing it except you. 1262 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,480 Speaker 3: So from then on, my friends decided to be on 1263 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 3: my butt about dating Diane. I chose to stay silent. 1264 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 3: Oh did you You chose to stay silent instead of 1265 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:24,560 Speaker 3: exposing that you're both morally horrifically compromised. Great. I did 1266 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,880 Speaker 3: not want to embarrass and air out any dirt about Diane. 1267 01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,400 Speaker 3: She was everyone's sweetheart. It made me resent her more 1268 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,080 Speaker 3: and I was extremely close to just cutting her off. 1269 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 3: Going into the first week of August, I found my 1270 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,880 Speaker 3: channel to cut Diane out. Everything that happened between us 1271 01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,680 Speaker 3: ate a hole through me. I ended up becoming very 1272 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 3: short with her. I was disgusted with her and overall 1273 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 3: with myself. I took a family friend's boat out and 1274 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 3: the whole group was supposed to go. Diane ended up 1275 01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,440 Speaker 3: dropping out due to some family issues, so it was 1276 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:57,720 Speaker 3: only Viena, Trice and I going out on the river. 1277 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 3: No way you're gonna see your avenue to breakup is 1278 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 3: just cheating on her with Tris. Right, there's no way 1279 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:10,439 Speaker 3: that that's what you're talking about, right, right. We get 1280 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 3: there and I get the barbecuing. While the barbecue was going, 1281 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 3: we played keep away in the water. Of course, being 1282 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 3: completely oblivious, Tris made a move on me. I was 1283 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 3: caught off guard. 1284 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, she made the move on me. 1285 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:32,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, sure, sure man. Tris again makes another pass 1286 01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 3: at me. She did it a third time, back to 1287 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,840 Speaker 3: her butt up against me and gave me a look. 1288 01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,080 Speaker 3: I couldn't lie. Instantly, I was turned on, and I 1289 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,680 Speaker 3: thought I found my way out. Since that day, I 1290 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 3: began to talk with Tris. 1291 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 8: So you're relationship thing with this person was a different relationship. 1292 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,920 Speaker 3: She opened up to me and it seemed like we 1293 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 3: had a bit in common. For about a week or so, 1294 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 3: we talked and did a few things together. At this point, 1295 01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 3: I was going to stop things with Diane due to 1296 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,920 Speaker 3: the fact I held so much hatred and resentment towards her, 1297 01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,080 Speaker 3: and the fact that everyone else wanted to chime in 1298 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 3: every day about Diane without knowing everything I knew. Diane 1299 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 3: picked up on the change towards her. She started to 1300 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 3: ask questions, do I annoy you? Please? Tell me if 1301 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,160 Speaker 3: you don't want me around anymore, and starting in on Tris, 1302 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 3: I refused to answer or just flat out lie, wow, 1303 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 3: that's health. I should have stated how I felt, but 1304 01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:33,680 Speaker 3: was met with you need to stop holding that stuff 1305 01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 3: over my head and let it go. Oh so again 1306 01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,520 Speaker 3: it's her fault, gotcha. As I got to know Tris, 1307 01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 3: something changed. She had to leave to get back to college. 1308 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,560 Speaker 3: But before she left, I had asked her pretty in 1309 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 3: depth questions that she could not answer with maturity. The 1310 01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 3: red flags were starting to. 1311 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:53,160 Speaker 8: Show, darning darting to show. 1312 01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 3: You are the red flag, my guy. Tris had the 1313 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,320 Speaker 3: most severe case of FOMO. What set me over the 1314 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,600 Speaker 3: edge and I next victim, had helped her work out 1315 01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:06,080 Speaker 3: for her sport the whole time she was in town. 1316 01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:10,280 Speaker 3: Her attitude had changed and became more demanding. I didn't 1317 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 3: like that, and it's all about you, buddy, So I 1318 01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 3: made the comment when she leaves, she isn't going to 1319 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,600 Speaker 3: speak to us anymore. After the first month of being gone, 1320 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 3: Tris did not contact or rarely reached out to us. 1321 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,919 Speaker 3: She became extremely selfish and I didn't want any part 1322 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:28,240 Speaker 3: of it. 1323 01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 6: She didn't want to talk to me. 1324 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,720 Speaker 1: He was so selfish of her. 1325 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 3: There was only room in this town for one incredibly 1326 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,400 Speaker 3: selfish butthole, and his name is my name. I felt 1327 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 3: bad for Vena because her and Tris were supposed to 1328 01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,880 Speaker 3: be best friends, and Tris never updated or checked in. 1329 01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:49,520 Speaker 3: It really hurt Vena's feelings. I finally got on a 1330 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,920 Speaker 3: phone call with Tris and asked her why she doesn't 1331 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 3: want to speak to us. Tris said, once I left, 1332 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 3: I didn't really want to be concerned about anyone from there, 1333 01:06:57,840 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 3: so I decided I was just going to drop everyone. 1334 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,680 Speaker 3: Right then, I knew I made the right move to 1335 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 3: lose interest. That's the end of Tris. I think. 1336 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,160 Speaker 6: I think Tris was interested in you. 1337 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,520 Speaker 3: Buddy, can me get Triss and got out of their 1338 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 3: triss Tris, good job. 1339 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 6: Tris Tree. 1340 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 3: Nothing extremely intimate happened between us. Thank god your soft 1341 01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 3: heart was protected. As for Diane, I had a decision 1342 01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,439 Speaker 3: to make. I knew I still held on to all 1343 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 3: those ill feelings towards her. Well, she didn't have my trust. 1344 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,000 Speaker 3: I made offhand comments once in a while, and personally 1345 01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 3: I was one foot in and the rest out. I 1346 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 3: knew it would take time for her to gain my 1347 01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:41,439 Speaker 3: trust back to be honest, I was pleasantly surprised because 1348 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,680 Speaker 3: she earned all of it back plus more. It took 1349 01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 3: a while, but she's sure as heck did it. I 1350 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,320 Speaker 3: sat down with a mutual friend and he put things 1351 01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 3: into perspective. I told Diane that I need time to 1352 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 3: figure things out before I could move forward with her. 1353 01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 3: Since then I was moved to being Diane's assistant because 1354 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,120 Speaker 3: her old assistant left. She helped me tackle a ton 1355 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,880 Speaker 3: of my own family issues. After doing all this great stuff, 1356 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,640 Speaker 3: the feelings of ill will and hatred began to subside 1357 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,360 Speaker 3: until they completely diminished. We did have some arguments here 1358 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,919 Speaker 3: and there, but we got through them with ease. Since 1359 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 3: I decided to let Diane into my life, things seemed 1360 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 3: like they got a lot better, even though this has 1361 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 3: been a stressful year for us, dealing with parents, players, families, 1362 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:28,240 Speaker 3: terminal sickness of loved ones, job and money issues. But 1363 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,559 Speaker 3: Diane worked through everything until about two weeks ago. Now 1364 01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,880 Speaker 3: we're getting into the real meat. Two weeks ago, the 1365 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 3: week of the fourth of July was a crazy week. 1366 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:43,280 Speaker 3: I played sports still myself, so there's a big tournament. 1367 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 6: Year since she left her fiance. 1368 01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:49,759 Speaker 3: So whennessa day, Diane and I go out. It's about 1369 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 3: two am, and I have to be up at nine 1370 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,880 Speaker 3: am to play at eleven. I ended up heading back 1371 01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,960 Speaker 3: to my place and Diane decided to stay longer and talk. 1372 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 3: At this point, she and I are unofficial still, but 1373 01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 3: I considered her to be my s O. Diana is 1374 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 3: staying with me every day, lives at my place, and 1375 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:09,879 Speaker 3: I'm happy with it. But here's the problem. She stays 1376 01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 3: with the guy who runs our organization, talking with him 1377 01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 3: till six or seven am in the morning. 1378 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:16,400 Speaker 6: Oh my god, how. 1379 01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,960 Speaker 8: You guys used to do when she was cheating on 1380 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 8: her fiance. 1381 01:09:20,360 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 3: This shows a little familiar. 1382 01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:29,440 Speaker 1: What have I heard that? That's a tough one, continues 1383 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: sketchy Boo. 1384 01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:34,400 Speaker 3: Right, I'll trust her. She doesn't have a key yet, 1385 01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 3: so I had to stay up waiting for her, even 1386 01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,360 Speaker 3: though I had to play in less than five hours. Bro, 1387 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 3: nobody on Earth cares about your Corey League Athletics game. 1388 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,280 Speaker 6: You could have gone to bed. 1389 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:50,479 Speaker 3: I'm sure you're an adult with a death dream. Show 1390 01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 3: up late, show up tired. None of that matters at all. 1391 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:58,519 Speaker 3: I wake up at like nine thirty ish, not happy, 1392 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:03,120 Speaker 3: but still tired. But I get ready. I'm ready to go, 1393 01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,200 Speaker 3: and she stops and asks me if she could shower 1394 01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:10,599 Speaker 3: for like five minutes. I was like, you need to hurry. Well, 1395 01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,720 Speaker 3: she ended up making me late for game time, and 1396 01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 3: I was hot. On the way to the field, I 1397 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 3: slammed my hand a few times on the steering wheel 1398 01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:22,160 Speaker 3: and then on the console. The outside bone of my 1399 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,040 Speaker 3: wrist accidentally catches her elbow. Oh fowl, she's in the car. Rock. 1400 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 8: So you now have crossed into being the worst of 1401 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 8: the two people in this story. 1402 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:34,360 Speaker 6: You actually suck. 1403 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,920 Speaker 3: I immediately apologize and beg for forgiveness. I didn't mean 1404 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 3: for that to happened. I instantly tear up, pathetic and 1405 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 3: apologize profusely. She said she's okay and knew it was accidental, 1406 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 3: but my heart is racing. Two days later, I play 1407 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:53,759 Speaker 3: in another game. Everything is fine until after Diane takes 1408 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 3: video so that I may review it later. 1409 01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 1410 01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:00,240 Speaker 3: We stayed after the game to watch some of the 1411 01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:04,439 Speaker 3: second games, and I'm bored. There wasn't a ton of action, 1412 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,080 Speaker 3: so I asked for the phone to review the footage 1413 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 3: she took of me. She refused, so I asked again. 1414 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 3: She refused and this went back and forth until I 1415 01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,000 Speaker 3: got annoyed and said, why do you take video if 1416 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:19,320 Speaker 3: you aren't even gonna let me see it? Diane said, 1417 01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,800 Speaker 3: give me Diana pass. Diane put her hat on, said, hey, 1418 01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 3: you're overthinking things out there. I was like, I'm not chilling. 1419 01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,160 Speaker 3: I just want to watch some film on myself. She 1420 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,840 Speaker 3: continuously refused and made the comment you tell other people 1421 01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 3: not to overthink, so take your own advice. I was like, no, 1422 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,799 Speaker 3: I'm a grown man. Just give me the phone. 1423 01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 6: Say it. 1424 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,880 Speaker 3: Say it. I'm a grown butt man. My butt is 1425 01:11:44,040 --> 01:11:47,839 Speaker 3: fully grown. Still, she refuses and says, in front of everyone, 1426 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 3: since you tell all the kids you mentor to stop overthinking, 1427 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 3: I'm going to treat you like a twelve year old 1428 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 3: girl in front of. 1429 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,000 Speaker 8: Everyone is twelve year old girls are so much cooler 1430 01:11:59,000 --> 01:11:59,759 Speaker 8: than this guy. 1431 01:12:00,439 --> 01:12:03,719 Speaker 3: He's more like a five year old boy. She proceeds 1432 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,320 Speaker 3: to do just that. I walked away to cool down. 1433 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,679 Speaker 3: Once I came back, I was good. I started drinking 1434 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 3: and having a good time. At the end of the night, 1435 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 3: Diane and I walked back to my car and I 1436 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,280 Speaker 3: confronted her about doing what she did, literally talking and 1437 01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,080 Speaker 3: treating me like a twelve year old girl in front 1438 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 3: of everyone. This guy has the nerve to say that 1439 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,120 Speaker 3: was disrespectful and uncool. She makes the same comment, I 1440 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 3: just think you're overthinking it. I hastily disagreed and shot 1441 01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 3: back at her, and before you know it, we're having 1442 01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 3: a shouting match down the highway. She blurted out that 1443 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,400 Speaker 3: I hit her the other day and just threw it 1444 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:41,479 Speaker 3: into my face, and I just lost it. I was tired, 1445 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 3: somewhat intoxicated, and obviously mad, and I thought she crossed 1446 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,200 Speaker 3: the line, so I crossed the line back. I am 1447 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,840 Speaker 3: especially not proud of this. Well, don't worry, no one 1448 01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:53,559 Speaker 3: hears proud of you at all. She was telling me 1449 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 3: to let her out of the car in the middle 1450 01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 3: of the fide and way. 1451 01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 8: Where to God, dude, it was your next action, so wisely. 1452 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 3: She kept screaming at me to do it. I refused 1453 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:10,439 Speaker 3: because it was extremely unsafe. I'm not going to say 1454 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,479 Speaker 3: what I did, but it was messed up. I did 1455 01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,800 Speaker 3: not do anything to hurt or harm her, Let's make 1456 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,800 Speaker 3: that clear. But what I did was messed up. 1457 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,080 Speaker 6: Something to harm her. 1458 01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:20,880 Speaker 3: But didn't. 1459 01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 6: No, I know exactly what it's going to do, and 1460 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:23,439 Speaker 6: it's fully to hurt. 1461 01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:26,479 Speaker 3: And harm her, buddy. When the thing that you did 1462 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,120 Speaker 3: is actually so bad you can't even write it, it 1463 01:13:30,120 --> 01:13:34,680 Speaker 3: doesn't matter. So finally I get to a junction and 1464 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 3: I pull over, and she gets out and starts walking 1465 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,679 Speaker 3: in the wrong direction, a very dangerous direction. I tried 1466 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,519 Speaker 3: to get her to calm down and listen to me, 1467 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 3: but she had her mind made up that she wanted 1468 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,840 Speaker 3: someone else to get her and for me to go away. 1469 01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 3: So after a while I pleaded with her to get 1470 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 3: back in the car because she will be waiting for hours. 1471 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,040 Speaker 3: I didn't want to leave her on the side of 1472 01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,160 Speaker 3: the highway next to dangerous areas in the middle of 1473 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,320 Speaker 3: the night. But everything I said, even me dropping the 1474 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 3: I love you bomb, just fell on deaf ears. 1475 01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:06,720 Speaker 6: Is this the first time he said I love her 1476 01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:07,080 Speaker 6: to her? 1477 01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,120 Speaker 3: From the sounds of it contextually, I think that is. 1478 01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 3: Eventually she just said take her back and that she 1479 01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:20,000 Speaker 3: was done. That tore me apart. The very next day, 1480 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 3: we were supposed to leave to go to a week 1481 01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,479 Speaker 3: long tournament for her team that she runs. I had 1482 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 3: to play a ball game first and then go, but 1483 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 3: she did not contact me at all. A mutual friend 1484 01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:32,080 Speaker 3: before the game sat down and talk with me about 1485 01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,920 Speaker 3: what happened the night before. I told him a very 1486 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,720 Speaker 3: short version of everything above. 1487 01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,400 Speaker 2: Probably the one where you're like she was the one 1488 01:14:38,400 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 2: in the wrong and I didn't everything right. 1489 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah. Diane showed up to the game, didn't 1490 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,839 Speaker 3: speak a word to me or look in my direction. Eventually, 1491 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 3: later that day I got a hold of her and 1492 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 3: we drove down, but the car ride was miserable. To 1493 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,759 Speaker 3: wrap everything up. Monday evening on the eighth of July 1494 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, Diane ripped me a new one because 1495 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:03,719 Speaker 3: she found out that I talked to Tris and said 1496 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,599 Speaker 3: I was willing to give you a second chance, but 1497 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,360 Speaker 3: not after finding that out. I assume our mutual friend 1498 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,719 Speaker 3: told her. Tris and I went out a few times. 1499 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,600 Speaker 3: She came on to me and I kissed her. Apparently 1500 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 3: that was the nail in the coffin. So since all 1501 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,559 Speaker 3: that has happened, she has told me she doesn't trust 1502 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 3: me anymore, doesn't see me the same way, and that 1503 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 3: I lied to her made her feel crazy, and that 1504 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 3: I am a cheater too. I will own up to 1505 01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:30,960 Speaker 3: the live part. We weren't together either, but she's still 1506 01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 3: calling me a cheater. She also said she wants me 1507 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,920 Speaker 3: to continue being her assistant, but we haven't talked since 1508 01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,040 Speaker 3: the day she dropped me off back at my house 1509 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,000 Speaker 3: after the trip. A big thing is she said, I 1510 01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:45,600 Speaker 3: didn't give her enough public displays of affection. I'm not 1511 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,960 Speaker 3: into public displays of affection. She said, I didn't tell 1512 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,840 Speaker 3: her enough about how I felt about her. Does anyone 1513 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 3: else think she found someone else or went back to 1514 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:54,920 Speaker 3: her ex fiance? 1515 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:57,719 Speaker 6: Said, I couldn't freaking care any less. 1516 01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 3: Anyone else would be better than any one and we 1517 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:05,000 Speaker 3: are finally coming up to the tail end of this one. 1518 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,720 Speaker 3: I want you to be alone for the rest of 1519 01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 3: your life. And also, don't think I forgot about you, Diane. 1520 01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 3: I want you to be alone for the rest of 1521 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,000 Speaker 3: your life as well. I want you both to be 1522 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,280 Speaker 3: happy being alone forever, because everyone else is better off. 1523 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 3: I can definitely understand her being upset about everything, but 1524 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 3: I feel like all this is really high school crap 1525 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:28,880 Speaker 3: that could have been talked out. 1526 01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:31,800 Speaker 6: Read read the next line. Please read the next line. 1527 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:36,680 Speaker 3: She's being extremely immature and unfair, especially the way she 1528 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 3: treated me and her ex fiance to how she treats me. Now, 1529 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,600 Speaker 3: since like October of last year, things have been extremely 1530 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,639 Speaker 3: good between us, although I know my hands aren't clean 1531 01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,759 Speaker 3: in this. All of this has really messed me up great. 1532 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,519 Speaker 3: I fell for this girl, and because I had a 1533 01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,879 Speaker 3: bad few days on top of many more untold issues, 1534 01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:02,240 Speaker 3: I struggled at keeping my com posure just once. That's 1535 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 3: a lie. I guess when it rains, it pours. I 1536 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,920 Speaker 3: only knew this girl to be a liar, cheater and untrustworthy, 1537 01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,880 Speaker 3: but ended up finding a gem of a person later 1538 01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:14,439 Speaker 3: on once I learned more about her. I really don't 1539 01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,800 Speaker 3: know what to do or think. I'm stuck between a 1540 01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 3: rock and a hard place. Please help me with thoughts, opinions, 1541 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:20,839 Speaker 3: and advice. 1542 01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,320 Speaker 8: Can you please tell us how badly these comments roasted him? 1543 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:26,920 Speaker 3: Please? 1544 01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:27,880 Speaker 2: I looked it up. 1545 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,320 Speaker 3: Were they supportive? 1546 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 7: No? 1547 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:31,560 Speaker 3: Thank god? 1548 01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:32,000 Speaker 5: No? 1549 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:36,360 Speaker 2: Even it it's there, it's still there. There's not many comments, 1550 01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 2: there's no comments. 1551 01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense. I doubt many people could get 1552 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:43,120 Speaker 3: through all that. And that's the end of this story.