WEBVTT - Conversations On A Tuesday

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<v Speaker 1>Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealer's podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>load glasses, Malone?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that name?

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<v Speaker 3>Got me?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you mean I got you?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what to make of anything anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>What you confused about.

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<v Speaker 3>All?

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<v Speaker 2>It?

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<v Speaker 3>All?

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<v Speaker 2>It?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even want to know what that means, because

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine that means something crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, I don't live a crazy live a crazy life.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't live a crazy life.

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<v Speaker 3>No. No, pretty simple, very very very simple. Just trying

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<v Speaker 3>to corral small, tiny little bits of money and just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, get a couple more of them. That's about

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<v Speaker 3>it about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Low.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you go out of town? Were you in Colorado

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<v Speaker 3>or something?

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<v Speaker 2>I was in Denver?

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<v Speaker 3>Gotcha? How'd that go?

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<v Speaker 2>It was cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I went out there Thursday because I had to do

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<v Speaker 1>some extra hustling for Friday, and then the concert was Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I left Sunday morning at seven in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>like La. So I left Thursday night on Frontier and

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<v Speaker 1>which the plane was two or three hours late, where

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<v Speaker 1>I had mechanical issues.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm extremely familiar with that process, as you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I didn't know I'm sleeping on Frontier.

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<v Speaker 3>I spent more time on the frontier than David Crockett.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fuck man, anyway.

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<v Speaker 3>Under Daniel boone of aviation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I leave out.

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<v Speaker 1>I get there at night, I end up doing one

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<v Speaker 1>rap song for somebody, and then I go to the

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<v Speaker 1>hotel and I go to sleep. Friday, when I wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>I end up just getting a little extra sleep because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been stressed crazy, just been going through it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think yesterday, Coach, you know, made a lot of sense

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Like I've been dealing with a problem with

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<v Speaker 1>my business m hm, and it's threatening the ownership of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a lot of my songs pretty much my

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<v Speaker 1>whole catalog, and it's been stressing me out over the

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<v Speaker 1>past two months, like beyond. But yesterday I went to

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<v Speaker 1>box with coach. With coach, will you know who does

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<v Speaker 1>the lunch hour?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah awesome, And.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it had me so stressed out, man, like all

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<v Speaker 1>my shoulders, my back being tense, Like I've just been

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<v Speaker 1>really going through it. And it's only because like somebody

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<v Speaker 1>I trust is at the hest that you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>I trust it is at the front of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the way they're dealing with it is

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<v Speaker 1>just not cool. And it's like if you would think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people know I've made sacrifices on having children.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, part of the initial thing was I was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting to get married to have children. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as simple as I just was sacrificing music, sacrifice to

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<v Speaker 1>have a children make music. But people know that this

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<v Speaker 1>is my pride and joy, my music, my create you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my creative ensemble of songs. You feel me, it's my

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<v Speaker 1>pride and joy. So losing it, I would think somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who like I would trust, would be really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they would understand why it would be so stressful. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's to the point where like you watch that person's

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<v Speaker 1>life go on and don't get me wrong, maybe you know,

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<v Speaker 1>still the person maybe still feels like like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's not a cool way.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as I do more homework on a person,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything coming back has been horrible and still is

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<v Speaker 1>just going on with his life like it's all good,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know what I mean, Like he might make

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<v Speaker 1>a phone call, but he's at his job, he's with

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<v Speaker 1>his wife, he's on his kids game, he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating his anniversaries, like this means that I won't make

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<v Speaker 1>any more money off of my catalog, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>And so to me, it's so serious.

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<v Speaker 1>And if I was, you know, you know, managing an

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<v Speaker 1>artist and this was I couldn't even sleep without fixing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't do anything else without fixing it, especially if

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<v Speaker 1>it's somebody that I've known for twenty years, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, I be doing everything in my power

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<v Speaker 1>to protect that relationship and to make sure that this

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<v Speaker 1>person didn't lose everything. And I would still be talking

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<v Speaker 1>to this person all the time. I'd be talking to

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<v Speaker 1>this person so much that they would be more you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like confused, Like damn, you know you more affected than me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I'd be trying to soothe,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Like if this was the Giants and it

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<v Speaker 1>was happening to them, I'd be talking to them every day,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'd be hitting them all day, like, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I made this car been thinking? Even if

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<v Speaker 1>I was helpless in this situation, we'd be helpless and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be down for whatever you wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And can I ask, like what's the contractual? I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it has to be some for a contractual conflict the legal.

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<v Speaker 2>So like, so I did a.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a couple of companies that have been, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>licensing catalogs to sink to sink. You know, they've been

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<v Speaker 1>they've been licensing catalogs so they could sink them and

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<v Speaker 1>look for opportunities. So they advance you money based off

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<v Speaker 1>your future royalties and the goal is for them to

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<v Speaker 1>make you know, a lot of money and take into

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<v Speaker 1>a profit share with you because you have this amount

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<v Speaker 1>of songs and.

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<v Speaker 3>They would like you're effectively borrowing out the equity in

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<v Speaker 3>the music, and they assume that the it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>earn itself back with appreciation at minimum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what I mean. But the goal for

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<v Speaker 2>them is to make more money.

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<v Speaker 1>And still brought it to me as this is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm friends with, and I'm thinking, I'm coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the realization that's probably not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he knows the person, but you know, even the

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<v Speaker 2>person who.

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<v Speaker 1>He met him through, right, was like I verified with

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<v Speaker 1>certain people and they're like, now this dude that's doing

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<v Speaker 1>the deal is very questionable.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he's done some really questionable things.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's put me in a situation where I have

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<v Speaker 1>to go behind and check everything and it's like everything

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<v Speaker 1>has been bad, and it got to the point to where,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was ready to do something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>very glasses love thing from Seth.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't want to be the guy taking your catalog

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<v Speaker 3>from him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I'm on the verge of doing I was

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<v Speaker 1>on the verge yesterday of doing some very glasses love thing,

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<v Speaker 1>some things that shout out to my older homies that

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<v Speaker 1>I've been trained to do when people play with me,

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<v Speaker 1>sure you know what I mean, And I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>it in so long, like people trying to play with

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<v Speaker 1>me and thinking it's okay, and yeah, it's just been

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<v Speaker 1>a journey and it's been stressing me out. So yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>I was going in to box, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going to work out box those mans and it was

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<v Speaker 1>so stressful I couldn't even work. And that's how I know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm not like a stressful person. Even when I

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<v Speaker 1>was in Denver, there were times that I had a

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<v Speaker 1>headache because I'm like dog like, this is my everything.

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<v Speaker 1>And long story short, So I'm with coach, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at training and he's talking to me and I got

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<v Speaker 1>the address to this location where the company is at sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I knew nobody was there, so my immediate thing

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<v Speaker 1>was to go burn down this building, right saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in like Hollywood. But I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just go burn it down, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't get the person who who the deal was done

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<v Speaker 1>with on the phone let alone. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>who's financing that part of the deal for him, who's

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<v Speaker 1>putting up the money and still has gotten to the

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<v Speaker 1>place now where he's just not even talking to me.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the name of this outfit?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't quite know. I got to look at the contract.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that's weird because they his people.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have had a some exposure to a similar business

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<v Speaker 3>model from a company called song Vest.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's not that though, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got no selings live or look, excuse me, no seilings,

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<v Speaker 1>not live, no seilings lasses Lowe.

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<v Speaker 2>The boss working through some stuff, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's to the point now where I barely like

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<v Speaker 1>still is barely gonna answer my cause you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Like his job is now so important that

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<v Speaker 1>he cannot talk to me. It's like, you know, forty

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<v Speaker 1>eight hours at this point, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like every promise has been broken and you know, from

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<v Speaker 1>the company, and there is really no effort to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of keep me cool. And normally that is usually a.

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<v Speaker 2>Sign of disrespect, and it is a sign of disrespect.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, maybe in the regular world it's not a sign

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<v Speaker 1>of disrespect, but in my world, it's a sign of disrespect,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So my immediate thing is

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<v Speaker 1>to do something to the man respect. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who the person is or what they look like, so

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<v Speaker 1>I can't find them. So the next thing is I

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<v Speaker 1>just go burn this house down and then they'll know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not playing. So I got the address from a

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<v Speaker 1>buddy of minees that that we all know, and shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to him. He didn't know what I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>plan to do, and lord knows, I would have never

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<v Speaker 1>told the police where I got the address from. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>But as I'm going, as I'm about to walk out

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<v Speaker 1>the gym, no, coach Willis just started talking to me.

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<v Speaker 2>And something he he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't quite know what it was specifically, but when

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<v Speaker 1>I left the gym, I still was on the verge

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<v Speaker 1>of going right. I was going to get a gas can,

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<v Speaker 1>going to you know, do the thing, and right when

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<v Speaker 1>I got to the freeway, his words just kept.

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<v Speaker 2>Going back and back over my head, dog like in

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<v Speaker 2>my ear, in my ear, in my ear. It was

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<v Speaker 2>like God's testing you, like you know, God is testing you.

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<v Speaker 1>And the more I thought about it, I was explaining

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody that God has been testing me and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it. Like right, I went through the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>when I was about to put out white lighting in one.

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<v Speaker 2>And like the CD was doing good.

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<v Speaker 1>It was making noise, but it hadn't quite hit radio

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<v Speaker 1>to start kicking up dust like I think maybe one

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<v Speaker 1>station might have played it, and it was an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for me to make a play on five gallons of

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<v Speaker 1>PCP for sure, or people call it dust five gallons, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that play would have bought me an extra ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars to survive, right because at that point, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>living in Lynnwood.

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<v Speaker 2>Shout out to mister hood rest in peace. I'm living on.

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<v Speaker 1>Lynwood Road, thirty three forty four Lynn Warld Road, right

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<v Speaker 1>at the corner of Lynwood Road and Long Beach Boulevard

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<v Speaker 1>when you get off the one on five freeway coming

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<v Speaker 1>from Los Angeles, and you exit on Long Beach Boulevard.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that puts you on the side where you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go that would be south. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>I live right there, and you've missed out on some

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<v Speaker 3>good opportunities to Uh there's pimping money to be made.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you about that. But after this, I had

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<v Speaker 1>that opportunity too. But I would have picked up an

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<v Speaker 1>additional ten thousand dollars. At that time my rent was

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred and twenty five dollars. Ten thousand dollars goes

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<v Speaker 1>a long way. I would have been straight, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for I don't know, you know, for a while, or

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<v Speaker 1>I would have got busted. And my problem with it,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the point of sometimes being a crypt

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<v Speaker 1>and a well trained crip. Shout out to my older home.

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<v Speaker 1>He shout out to Pluck moun Shady and all the

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<v Speaker 1>guys that made me stand there for myself and realize

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<v Speaker 1>I could do shit to people and get away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is now I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I can get away with everything. Sure, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm some kind of fucking criminal mastermind. And it's crazy

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<v Speaker 1>because I think the police is smart. If nothing else,

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<v Speaker 1>they have more time and resources. Even if they're even

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<v Speaker 1>if my SAT score is better than some of these

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<v Speaker 1>motherfuckers they have, Like I'm spending my whole day trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get away with doing a crime, stay alive, not

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<v Speaker 1>get ribbed, feel me, not get cheated, and they spend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I still have to do the transactions

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<v Speaker 1>to make profit.

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<v Speaker 2>They get paid all day to watch me.

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<v Speaker 3>And even in the vacuum of one singular act, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to go twenty for twenty and they have to

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<v Speaker 3>go one for twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Like even that decks stacked enormously against you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember that happened, and I remember just thinking like, nah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do it. I don't even know how I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna even pay my rent that month, or I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't pay my rent, I might have been a whole

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<v Speaker 1>month behind. But mister Hood used to try his best

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the owner together. The lady she was. She

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<v Speaker 1>was a cool lady too. I forgot her name. But

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<v Speaker 1>the manager of the apartment unit, mister Hood rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he would, mister Lewis Hood, he would do.

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<v Speaker 1>He would try his best to help me. He's seen

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get my life together. He saw

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<v Speaker 1>that I didn't want to sell drugs, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do this music thing and it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little energy, but it wasn't quite where it needed to be.

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<v Speaker 1>And that opportunity came and I was right on the

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<v Speaker 1>verge of doing it. And you know, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I stopped selling drugs is because I realized that,

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<v Speaker 1>like I promised God that I wouldn't sell drugs if

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<v Speaker 1>God got me out of a situation where I was

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<v Speaker 1>about to go to prison. And it wasn't even a

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<v Speaker 1>serious prayer. I think I told you, yeah, and it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a serious prayer. But it happened, and the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing flowing in my mind was that promise. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to break that promise to I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta do it. Is one more time and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be straight because I could see it was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>Like the opportunity was there and it was clicking and

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<v Speaker 1>all I needed was one more time. And I remember

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<v Speaker 1>turning it down, like, nah, man, I'm gonna hook you

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<v Speaker 1>up with somebody else. Oh I pay you, Noah, I

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<v Speaker 1>want nothing for me. I don't even I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get involved. I'm just making sure you accomplished what

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to accomplish. But I'm I don't want a

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<v Speaker 1>profit from it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm cool.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember my brother was mad because he was

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<v Speaker 1>like me, you ain't trying to hustle, you know, y'all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, now, I'm gonna do something different. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was yesterday for me, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of one of my favorite probably not

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<v Speaker 3>released singles of the last several years in the hip

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<v Speaker 3>hop genre. Is that song Last Run by Yogatti.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I never heard it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a great song, great, great song all the way around.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday Coach Wills talking to me, He's like, man, God

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<v Speaker 1>has something right around the corner for you. He's like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this energy. And when he said it at

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<v Speaker 1>that time, I heard him. But I'm like, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>finish gonna burn his house down because I he was

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<v Speaker 1>a way with him. And you know, these motherfuckers gonna

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<v Speaker 1>know not to play with me. They're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>get on the phone with me. They got to fix

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<v Speaker 1>the shit, you know, period, blah blah blah. And I

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<v Speaker 1>got you, guys, man, I'm the freeway.

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<v Speaker 3>I just take anything. Coach, Yeah, Coach absolutely you're putting

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<v Speaker 3>in all these things into the car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, no, I hear. I'm listening to it.

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<v Speaker 1>But in my mind, I am so focused that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna show these motherfuckers, you know what I mean, I'm

0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:21.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna show these motherfuckers, you know. Like and that kept

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<v Speaker 1>saying God has something right around the corner for you.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was when I was right at the

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<v Speaker 1>freeway and kept saying God had something, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>turned around and went on. And I promised myself today

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<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't stress. I promised myself today that I

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't call still like I promised myself. And today is

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<v Speaker 1>the first day in a long time and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of about five seven weeks that I haven't stressed. Sure's

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I didn't call Steal. I didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to him. At this point, I'm probably not going

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<v Speaker 1>to call him anymore about it. But man, like, it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely and I think I could have got away

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<v Speaker 1>with it. I know I could have got away with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but that that that really kind of repositioned my soul.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if I like it, because it

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<v Speaker 1>made me feel like I'm getting soft, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, but it's been a journey man, and so

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Denver dealing with that. I came up

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<v Speaker 1>with some really great ideas in Denver for like TV

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<v Speaker 1>shows and those stuff. So you know, everything is straight

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<v Speaker 1>even today, Like I was writing for this film, shout

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<v Speaker 1>out Nebrasko, one of my partners out there in Memphis.

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<v Speaker 1>No going out there in November to shoot a film.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've sold synopsis. You know, I sold you know,

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<v Speaker 1>treatments before for films, three of them. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>like my first one that we're gonna shoot, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm strapped in to go all the way for it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. Paul's like, I'm strapped in

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<v Speaker 1>to go all the way with this.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate, I hate to do it, but I have

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<v Speaker 3>to ask. Are there any nominal speaking roles for presumed

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<v Speaker 3>white characters in the film.

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<v Speaker 1>One, Yes, okay, that's why I wrote you in. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a cool part for you. But I gotta I

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<v Speaker 1>need a I need I need an older white racist man.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not for you. This is one specific thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>got something for you that should be.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably achievable in the Southern Tennessee, Northern Mississippi Greater Casting

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<v Speaker 3>Net Area.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but uh nah man, So I've been really flushing

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<v Speaker 1>out the characters again. Shout out to John Truby for

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<v Speaker 1>Anatomy of a Story. It's one of the best. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're a natural storyteller, you know, and I know they

0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, John Truby ain't writing us no check. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a natural storyteller and you really want to

0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.160
<v Speaker 1>put your storytelling on an assembly line as far as

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<v Speaker 1>for it to have depth, get Anatomy of a Story

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<v Speaker 1>by John Truby, you know what I mean, and go

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<v Speaker 1>through it. Take your time, keep reading it. I've read

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<v Speaker 1>it four times. I'm still reading it. I'm still ingesting it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a part of my natural story

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<v Speaker 1>process from here on out, and especially as I moved

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<v Speaker 1>into this film realm, because it's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had opportunities to do films.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the last three or four or five six years,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am so dedicated to hip hop and finishing

0:20:52.520 --> 0:20:54.600
<v Speaker 1>what I started. You know, I went through all the

0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.439
<v Speaker 1>stuff to get into this position that I kind of

0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:02.359
<v Speaker 1>neglected that, but I realized those that thing is coming

0:21:02.359 --> 0:21:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to me because it's going to help finish what I started.

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<v Speaker 1>With hip hop, especially for like a masterful storyteller. You know,

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.679
<v Speaker 1>if I could compliment myself like that, a masterful storyteller

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<v Speaker 1>as myself like right, I look at the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>Scarface and ice CTE. To me, who are the two

0:21:20.880 --> 0:21:23.399
<v Speaker 1>best storytellers in hip hop? They have some of the

0:21:23.520 --> 0:21:28.040
<v Speaker 1>greatest and most widely known stories in the history of

0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:34.600
<v Speaker 1>hip hop, you know what I mean, Scarface in songs

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:41.840
<v Speaker 1>like in songs for Scarface, it would be mind playing tricks.

0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.680
<v Speaker 1>I've seen a man die like he has some incredible

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:50.000
<v Speaker 1>stories that everybody in hip hop knows what happened, you know,

0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.440
<v Speaker 1>this year on the weekend. And then ice Cube, right,

0:21:53.119 --> 0:21:55.800
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows what happens with the boys in the hood.

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Everybody knows about the good day that ice Cube had.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, They're like phenomenal stories and their catalog is

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>built on incredible stories. And I definitely patterned myself, you know,

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:12.160
<v Speaker 1>in hip hop as a rapper behind them. Naturally, I'm

0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>a storyteller. I used to tell sell stories at my

0:22:15.520 --> 0:22:21.000
<v Speaker 1>middle school of Nintendo characters. So I never realized the

0:22:21.040 --> 0:22:25.760
<v Speaker 1>two would help each other. I never realized the two

0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:29.800
<v Speaker 1>would help each other. But and it's integral, and here

0:22:29.800 --> 0:22:31.520
<v Speaker 1>we are today. You know what I'm saying. We are

0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:33.960
<v Speaker 1>day late with the pod. We should have done it

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday when I first got back. But again, man, when

0:22:36.880 --> 0:22:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I got back, I was rapping, but I was still

0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.200
<v Speaker 1>in this really funky mood.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, not to mention, probably just miserably tired.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I wasn't tired enough to where I couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have did it. But I didn't. Actually, my big homie,

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Big Cool from Bebop.

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<v Speaker 1>Came by and he brought a hommy Pedro and a

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.320
<v Speaker 1>couple homies and we end up talking possibly about doing

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<v Speaker 1>something with the del Phonics, one of the least singers

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 1>from the del Phonics, and that ended up taking about

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:08.960
<v Speaker 1>four or five hours. So by the time that was done,

0:23:09.280 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 1>then I had to do some rapping, and so by

0:23:12.760 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 1>that time then I probably got tired because I ended

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:18.199
<v Speaker 1>up sleeping twice Sunday, gotcha. So the time that I

0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 1>would have came straight home, you know, from Denver and

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<v Speaker 1>we would have just did the pod, I end up

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:30.480
<v Speaker 1>giving that time to Toronto to be cool and as

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<v Speaker 1>part of being a decent friend and a decent young

0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.280
<v Speaker 1>homie in his case, you know, being a decent young homie,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. Where As I've been doing

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald since I was probably nine, okay, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I always had a lot of respect for him,

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>and he's a really creative dude in his music industry.

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.000
<v Speaker 1>He's one of the guys that discovered you know, he

0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.919
<v Speaker 1>was on the early train with Black Youngster.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a knack for what's happening when it comes

0:23:56.119 --> 0:23:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to street urban coaching. So you know, you make time

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.960
<v Speaker 1>and Pedro, you know, they were rapping before me, so

0:24:02.320 --> 0:24:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you make time for people sometimes, you know, shout out

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.720
<v Speaker 1>to everybody that listens to No Seilings podcasts forgive me

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.240
<v Speaker 1>for this day late, but here it is, you know

0:24:11.280 --> 0:24:13.080
<v Speaker 1>what I mean. It's a day late, but we're right.

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Here and I'm ad dollars short, so we're perfectly and sync.

0:24:19.760 --> 0:24:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So.

0:24:24.280 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>At that point today I've just been writing, flushing out

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.960
<v Speaker 1>the story a little bit more. You know this again,

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>this is the first this is the first synopsis or

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:37.199
<v Speaker 1>or the treatment that I'm going to take the screenplay

0:24:37.200 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>in the strip. There alone going to shoot it. So

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:44.479
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited about that and it is kind of it

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:47.560
<v Speaker 1>is refreshing to kind of double down on stories. You

0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean to double down, and we will

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.080
<v Speaker 1>use these new set of tools, use this new set

0:24:52.080 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 1>of tools that I got from a couple of books

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:59.399
<v Speaker 1>in my approach, Like even writ in this film now

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:04.440
<v Speaker 1>right It's dope, because I was inspired by the location.

0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Right Nebrasko and his partner bought the location in Memphis,

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.200
<v Speaker 1>this preestinct, and I had to write the idea based

0:25:11.240 --> 0:25:11.880
<v Speaker 1>off location.

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:14.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to move the camera lot.

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Malcolm May's little bro he didn't, you know,

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>taught me a lot about multiple location shit. So I

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 1>was really careful with the first films that I wanted

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:25.959
<v Speaker 1>to shoot were always, for the most part, single location shots.

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they spent eighty five percent of the film

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:32.800
<v Speaker 1>in one location. And it was one thing to get

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the premise out, it was another thing to get the

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 1>synopsis out. I still wrote the synopsis. He expanded it

0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:41.879
<v Speaker 1>on the premise and wrote a synopsis. But now like

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<v Speaker 1>developing the story based off of my new attained knowledge

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 1>and skill set, and man, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Night and day difference, Pete, it's night and day difference.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you notice this from? Like what you the

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<v Speaker 3>final product to be like, what like certain details that

0:26:06.080 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 3>translate onto film or that you would anticipate would where

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.600
<v Speaker 3>do you see like those differences being like at their greatest.

0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>So like with Tupacmas Die Right, Obviously this is hard

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to compare because that's a five to six minute video

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:29.240
<v Speaker 1>and this is a ninety plus minute feature. One of

0:26:29.280 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 1>the biggest things is so character development and relations, gotcha, Like,

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:41.240
<v Speaker 1>that's a big thing today, as I've been spilling out

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 1>before I go to screenplay and script, character development and relations,

0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 1>the web of characters.

0:26:49.560 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 2>And how they.

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>How they carry a story, like not necessarily the plot

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 1>carries the story. Like I was explaining to Chris today

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:10.080
<v Speaker 1>about I was telling her about Toby films and she

0:27:10.160 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 1>felt she didn't like them because.

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:13.240
<v Speaker 2>They were.

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:16.479
<v Speaker 3>Filmed on cell phones.

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, And.

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I explained to her it's more than that, and she

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:24.800
<v Speaker 1>thought that was crazy. And I'm like, you know, have

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you ever heard d Lo no Hoe? Right, there's a

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>ton of songs that are mixed like shit, But if

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:34.680
<v Speaker 1>the song is compelling, it won't matter. It'll go into

0:27:34.720 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the story itself and make the story even that much more.

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, like shatas Sure.

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Sure, And I was telling her that the issue with

0:27:45.480 --> 0:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>most TOOB movies for people is the lack of story development.

0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Like they'll have a decent premise and plot, but the

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>web of characters is questionable. There's a lot of extra

0:27:58.280 --> 0:28:03.520
<v Speaker 1>characters that won't make sense. Even this like being inspired

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>by Rio Bravo to write this idea, right Real Bravo

0:28:07.040 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 1>is a movie that came out in the fifties and

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I liked it and use it as just as inspiration

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:14.920
<v Speaker 1>because it was all about a bunch of you know,

0:28:15.119 --> 0:28:23.600
<v Speaker 1>outlaws coming to to one location for one purpose, you know,

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>and like this again, that was my first John Wayne film,

0:28:26.880 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 1>so and only so it was one thing to write

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a really good treatment, excuse me, a really good premise

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>and a really good synopsis that was simple, but to

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 1>flush it out, to put it in position for screenplay

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and to put it in position for treatment. I could

0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 1>have seen how if I didn't read John Truby's book,

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it could have been a to B movie in a sense,

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 1>not like oh, it's on TOOB and it's not successful,

0:28:51.280 --> 0:28:54.120
<v Speaker 1>but in a sense that there could be way too

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.280
<v Speaker 1>much extra slack, like the suit is not Taylor fit

0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:01.959
<v Speaker 1>for the featured time, Like every minute in a film

0:29:02.080 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>is valuable. Sure, Every every word of a story is valuable.

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Every relationship that your main character has is valuable. Yeah,

0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 1>so you have to truly use it, you know, correctly

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 1>to keep people engaged, especially if you don't have an

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>area many you know, especially if you don't have the

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 1>benefit of millions of dollars in marketing, especially if you

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>don't have the big screen.

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, to totally.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean those.

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Types of and I think like the one relationship, I mean,

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 3>obviously it's like that you're alluding to, but yeah, for

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>the audience's sake, Like, the most important relationship that the

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 3>main character can have is the one that the film

0:29:49.680 --> 0:29:54.840
<v Speaker 3>fosters between him and the audience. You know, asked, like

0:29:54.880 --> 0:29:57.840
<v Speaker 3>you see like these patterns and movies where they'll go

0:29:57.920 --> 0:29:59.400
<v Speaker 3>out of their way to give a little bit of

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 3>background or a little bit of this or a little

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 3>bit of that with certain characters certain moments, so that

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>you can establish an empathy or a sympathy, some sort

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 3>of relationship between the viewer and the character.

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:19.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because I think I did a podcast

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it before on this podcast where I

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>felt like I understood when people said Kendrick's music was

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:30.600
<v Speaker 1>preachy at times. It was driven entirely too much by dialogue,

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>like the messaging was driven by dialogue. And it's also

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 1>why I said gn X was his best album. Not

0:30:37.600 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 1>only is it the best combination of records and him

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 1>in his most honorable and vulnerable space, right, it's also

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the fact that everything is done in theme. Like people

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 1>don't realize when you hear that singer singing how Los

0:30:52.240 --> 0:30:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Angeles that is, People don't realize it's so many nuanced things,

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>titles that create a theme that he gives you. Hey,

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>this is la Unapologetically, I just smacked the shit out

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.520
<v Speaker 1>of one of the biggest artists in history that thought

0:31:08.520 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 1>he could compete with me. And what I'm doing is

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:15.200
<v Speaker 1>not to be questioned. I'm unapologetically that guy. And he

0:31:15.360 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>never had to say it, but through theme that was

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>present everything that he was brand wise and where he

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>was at in his life without ever saying it, which

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, it's lost to people. People a

0:31:30.400 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of people don't catch the theme, you know, they

0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>don't catch the messaging of the record because they're enjoying

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the records and it's such a process from sowing a

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>song that again, he's not using narration or dialogue to

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>establish the theme at this point. The soundtrack of music

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>is the theme, the interludes, everything about it screams exactly

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>what he wanted to scream, and he just had his business.

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's kind of the thing, which, you know,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>storytelling at this level was like, I realize, if you

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:10.240
<v Speaker 1>don't want your idea to come off preachy or condescending, right,

0:32:10.280 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to kind of allow theme to guide the messaging,

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>not so much dialogue. Like if my story is based

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 1>around the conservative black man, like he should never have

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:25.960
<v Speaker 1>to say I'm conservative. The theme of his existence, per

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>relationship with individuals in the film should give off he's

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:38.280
<v Speaker 1>a conservative black man. You know, when you see him

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>and compare him to the to the to the ally,

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:43.520
<v Speaker 1>it should say that. When you see him in compare

0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>to the opponent, it should say that true. The the

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the sheuer energy between them should say that without ever

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.960
<v Speaker 1>having to say that. He shouldn't have to go on

0:32:54.000 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>a runt about being conservative and blah blah blah, and

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it should never have it should it should.

0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Be very minimal.

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Sure, no, definitely could be just something he's wearing on

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 1>his uniform. So I've been just developing a lot, man,

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot. What else is going on? Everything going on

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:20.320
<v Speaker 1>with all the how is the trading going?

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Eating shit at that?

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 3>But I'm overperforming and everything else, so keeping the ship afloat.

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 3>So that's nice. But I continue to just get castrated

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 3>on a weekly basis, and that's unfreaking believable. I don't

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 3>even know how it's about bath we thought impossible. I'm

0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:51.400
<v Speaker 3>baffled by the numeric probability of that shortcoming. Truthfully, it's

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 3>it's something else. I did get some good news though,

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>because I was at a similar point a month ago,

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 3>almost exactly where I have gotten to my absolute wits

0:34:07.200 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 3>end with the people from Oklahoma with that oil deal.

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 3>And they were in southern California and I knew it,

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, oh, man, I really want to

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 3>burn down all my social credit lines right now and

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>make sure that they feel me, because they got a

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 3>lot of balls taking my money and showing up in

0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 3>my backyard like that. That's you're almost telling me to

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.320
<v Speaker 3>do something to you, man. And they were in Palm Springs.

0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 3>I was like, I can come down to ten from

0:34:33.920 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>the east or to west. He's sitting right right right,

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 3>my sweet spot, buddy, you wanted he's here like pick one.

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:45.600
<v Speaker 3>It's like fucking pissed. But yesterday I did get good news.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 3>One of my wells is officially up and running and

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 3>producing oil. So that is good.

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 2>Amen.

0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 3>So the oh a couple pieces away.

0:34:54.440 --> 0:34:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I remember you were telling me the story of how

0:34:57.800 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 1>your family ended up in California, mom's side. Sure, I

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>think it was right, how they ended up in Lynwood

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:06.719
<v Speaker 1>and then how they moved to where your family is

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:07.200
<v Speaker 1>at now.

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, look correct, Uh.

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 3>They were in uh once, I was in Lynnwood, across

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:17.399
<v Speaker 3>the street from where Lynwood High School is now.

0:35:17.800 --> 0:35:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And that's your that's your that's your mom's side.

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's both my mom's side and the other the

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 3>other group over there was up in Hindton Park.

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 1>And how did they end up near the beach. Initially

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:32.160
<v Speaker 1>when it was cheap.

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 3>There was nobody down there. I don't know how cheap

0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 3>it was. It wasn't like it is now. They just

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:41.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of kept They originally moved to Downey because the

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 3>houses were bigger. So there was a little neighborhood in

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 3>Downy that had like four tedescos in it, like in

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:50.520
<v Speaker 3>twelve houses. They just dollars.

0:35:51.520 --> 0:35:52.040
<v Speaker 2>And then.

0:35:54.600 --> 0:35:56.879
<v Speaker 3>I think, honestly it had to do with I think

0:35:56.880 --> 0:35:58.600
<v Speaker 3>my aunt had allergies or something like that. So they're like,

0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:00.479
<v Speaker 3>you either go to the desert, you can go about

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:04.439
<v Speaker 3>the water or something where it's not in that area

0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 3>where it's like polony or something. Sure, So he was

0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:11.000
<v Speaker 3>down there, thought it was super boring. Orange County at

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 3>times is nineteen sixty one was still Orange County. A

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:17.320
<v Speaker 3>lot of citrus grows the middle part of the county.

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Old Santa Anna was there. Newport was tiny, a tiny

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 3>little working port. A couple thousand people live down there.

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 3>He thought it was just terribly boring. Couldn't wait to

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:31.120
<v Speaker 3>get to work in the morning. That was it been

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:31.800
<v Speaker 3>there ever since.

0:36:32.680 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>How important is migration in the pursuit of opportunity? Like

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:42.359
<v Speaker 1>I said, everything obviously, obviously I watch America move from

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:43.200
<v Speaker 1>place to place.

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 3>It's the most important thing. It's the second most important

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:53.480
<v Speaker 3>thing behind pursuing knowledge. It's less important now because of

0:36:53.600 --> 0:37:00.200
<v Speaker 3>the nature of certain virtual opportunities, let's say, like be

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 3>it in certain software tech environments. You know, you can

0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 3>do things like that. But it's the most important thing.

0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Even if you're in tech. I mean, it's not an accent.

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:14.440
<v Speaker 3>It's not like there's it's not like the greater Silicon

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Valley area from was it San Ramon and Santa Clara

0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:24.879
<v Speaker 3>to wherever happens to have something in the water and

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 3>monopolize all the genius tech brains in the world there. No,

0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean it started off with a little bit of

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:37.399
<v Speaker 3>an ecosystem there and then all the money went there.

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.480
<v Speaker 3>So that's where all the vcs are. So if you

0:37:39.520 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 3>want to have access to capital and access to the

0:37:42.600 --> 0:37:46.920
<v Speaker 3>relationships that will entrust you with capital, you might want

0:37:46.960 --> 0:37:50.320
<v Speaker 3>to go there. I mean, that's pretty true.

0:37:51.120 --> 0:37:54.359
<v Speaker 1>And so that's what happened with Texas kind of over

0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>the last ten years for people in California, especially black

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>people in California.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I mean a lot of moos with Texas.

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>They've kind of moved everywhere, it seems. There's a lot

0:38:04.400 --> 0:38:08.760
<v Speaker 3>of Vegas, a lot of Arizona, a lot of Texas and Atlanta.

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 3>But Texas has a lot of growth and it's also

0:38:14.760 --> 0:38:21.600
<v Speaker 3>very balanced sheet friendly mean affordable, yeah, yeah, I'm yeah,

0:38:21.719 --> 0:38:24.920
<v Speaker 3>affordable on both sides of the ledger. It's cheaper to

0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 3>live there and you can still get good wages. There

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.280
<v Speaker 3>are other places where it's cheaper to live, like Memphis,

0:38:29.320 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 3>but you're gonna get paid pigeonshited money too.

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 2>Mm.

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Like Oklahoma is a good place to probably look into

0:38:37.600 --> 0:38:41.520
<v Speaker 3>a certain opportunities there too, as far as migration.

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:53.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what if you're what if you're not looking Okay,

0:38:53.560 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>what if the opportunity you can't see it yet? Like right,

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>if there's a location that I'm looking at right and

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, the oportunity isn't there yet, but you know

0:39:02.120 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>for sure because this place is the prime place where

0:39:05.440 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>people with economics they have to go there. Like it's

0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:13.160
<v Speaker 1>only so long this place could exist without you know,

0:39:13.280 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 1>wealth showing up there to maximize you know again, to

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:19.200
<v Speaker 1>pursue more wealth.

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's sort of the you know, American

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 3>story in a nutshell. And depending on your time frame,

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 3>there's like visionary early and then there's opportunistic early. I like,

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:38.200
<v Speaker 3>so if you're a visionary early, that means there's something

0:39:38.280 --> 0:39:41.440
<v Speaker 3>unique about this and I can make something happen, but

0:39:41.480 --> 0:39:43.360
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't exist yet, so you have the vision to

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 3>make it there. Opportunistic is holy crap, something's happening over

0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 3>there and it's not oversaturated yet, so there's opportunity on

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 3>the back of somebody who had the vision that needs

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 3>the human capital, and I can go fill that need

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:03.920
<v Speaker 3>right now at optimal value because you know, there's a

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:07.120
<v Speaker 3>there's a demand shortage or a supply shortage.

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Rather mmm, so visionary versus opportunistic. So if I'm a

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>visionary yet, I know that because of the Internet right

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.919
<v Speaker 1>there is it's definitely changed the landscape. But let's say

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the vision is in real estate mhm. Location, Yeah, it

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.680
<v Speaker 1>seems like a longer gamble because you're still waiting on

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you would still be waiting on wealth to come fulfill

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the vision.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 2>But you know, is inevitable.

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, uh, time is a serious component. Like let's look

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 3>at like for one, you know example, maybe some of

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:58.680
<v Speaker 3>the you know, you're a lot of the audiences may

0:40:58.719 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 3>or might not have heard of I don't know. But

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 3>obviously California's tax structure is pretty cumbersome on business. It's

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 3>no secret.

0:41:10.200 --> 0:41:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Moving a lot of films out of state, moving a

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:13.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of everything out of state.

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:19.640
<v Speaker 3>There was one project that got underway, but they kind

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 3>of contracted their way into kaibashing it, so to speak,

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:25.840
<v Speaker 3>to have a new port of La right down in

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:27.640
<v Speaker 3>like Rosa Rito or something on the other side of

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 3>the Mexican border, and offshore everything down there at way cheaper,

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 3>put it on a train and send it out. Governor

0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 3>of California basically said, We're going to put a state

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:40.680
<v Speaker 3>tax on any product that comes in there that's so

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 3>high that you won't be able to do it.

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>He took Trump's idea for California along.

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Sure, and I think that was Brown, I believe at

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 3>the time. Don't quote me, but anyway, the guy who

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 3>started building it was the visionary. Now his vision didn't work,

0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:03.799
<v Speaker 3>but had it worked and he put it together, and

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:07.719
<v Speaker 3>then you know, you move down there because you have

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:12.920
<v Speaker 3>a unique ability to launch some super automated arm in

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 3>that port that doesn't have union labor restrictions. You would

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:19.280
<v Speaker 3>be the opportunistic party, as the other person was the visionary.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 2>MM So this idea, I'm pretty much a visionary at

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>this point.

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:32.240
<v Speaker 3>Probably you're a visionary kind of guy.

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:33.879
<v Speaker 2>This is deep.

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:36.439
<v Speaker 1>I gotta figure it out, man, because I know it's there,

0:42:36.840 --> 0:42:40.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I know when God is sending me the vision soul.

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Even if I can't see everything that I'm supposed to,

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>I can receive the vision because I'm not drunk a

0:42:47.480 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>high or delusional or yeah, you gotta be a little

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.759
<v Speaker 1>delusional to get the vision, for sure.

0:42:55.840 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 3>A little bit, a little bit. But you anybody can

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 3>have a vision. You know, you have to be rooted

0:43:03.120 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 3>enough in reality to you know, work it through actually

0:43:10.000 --> 0:43:14.480
<v Speaker 3>being a worthwhile vision. Otherwise it's just, you know, just something.

0:43:17.880 --> 0:43:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you a question. I wanted to ask

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:25.760
<v Speaker 2>you this. Well, it's not important.

0:43:25.960 --> 0:43:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Shit, fire away. We've got sixteen minutes.

0:43:30.400 --> 0:43:33.879
<v Speaker 1>You don't think you don't think capitalism right, You don't

0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>think capitalism would be better.

0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Off if it had a cap.

0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:44.120
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't think growth would have a I watched

0:43:44.120 --> 0:43:46.600
<v Speaker 3>a great video. I should send it to you. This

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:50.680
<v Speaker 3>guy on that wealthy on show that I like talked

0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 3>about and there's a book by like my intellectual mentor

0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>of sorts though he's just an author and doesn't know

0:43:57.000 --> 0:44:00.839
<v Speaker 3>that he's my mentor. Uh, wrote a book called Life

0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 3>after Capitalism. This guy was talking about how we are

0:44:03.440 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>like capitalism no longer exists essentially in the framework as

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:16.360
<v Speaker 3>how we understand it, you know, with productions, margins, reinvestment, growth,

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 3>like that whole thing we're that's no longer a thing.

0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 3>Now now we're dealing with world banks, manipulated currency, quantitative easings,

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, interest rates to support debt and overspending, and

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 3>artificial injections of capital to keep the whole thing from collapsing.

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Mm.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:46.760
<v Speaker 3>So it's really not capitalists in any conventional real sense,

0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 3>like value as we know it has been distorted beyond

0:44:50.440 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 3>the point of recognizability and we're just yeah, kind of

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 3>kind of a long for a ride what we can.

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 2>So you mm hmm.

0:45:08.560 --> 0:45:10.760
<v Speaker 3>But like even in like in a normal sense capitalism

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:14.680
<v Speaker 3>had a cap then then you're cap and growth.

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 2>And your cap growth.

0:45:19.320 --> 0:45:27.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everyone who's tried it, that's been the outcome. That's

0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.640
<v Speaker 3>been the outcome because most of the margins don't change

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:30.880
<v Speaker 3>that much. The scale does.

0:45:35.560 --> 0:45:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 3>And big visions cost big money.

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:46.200
<v Speaker 2>But do you think we lost something when McDonald's went

0:45:47.719 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 2>like this big?

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Like as like I watched the film The Founder, and

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:54.839
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's a movie, so it don't have to be real.

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 1>But even the concept of saying, hey, if we stop

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:01.839
<v Speaker 1>using real lifce cream and we use a powder mix, right,

0:46:01.920 --> 0:46:06.359
<v Speaker 1>we maximize profit and make you know, you don't see

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the issue in that type of quality.

0:46:09.600 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 3>I do but it's interesting. Like in the food world,

0:46:15.560 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 3>the cancer I don't think is McDonald's. McDonald's offering it's

0:46:19.600 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 3>pretty straightforward. You're getting something cheaper, and it's cheaper like

0:46:25.120 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 3>literally and proverbially.

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:27.520
<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 3>The companies that I don't like. You said, there's only

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:36.520
<v Speaker 3>like a couple of companies in all those chain restaurants

0:46:36.560 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 3>like Chili's and Red Lobster, all those things that give

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>you a sit down dining experience at a price that

0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 3>a mom and pop restaurant can match, you know, normally, like,

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>but they've scaled out and their quality is shitty. So

0:46:52.760 --> 0:46:55.960
<v Speaker 3>now you're paying thirty five dollars to have a sit

0:46:56.080 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 3>down dinner that absolutely sucks. But they've driven all all

0:47:00.320 --> 0:47:04.920
<v Speaker 3>the small entrepreneurs out of the local marketplace.

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>Kind of like what Best Buys did to the independent

0:47:07.840 --> 0:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>record stores.

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like that Best Biden come out and offer

0:47:12.480 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 3>a one penny CD that nobody could mash, but it

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:18.120
<v Speaker 3>was shitty quality. That's kind of what McDonald's did to me.

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:19.480
<v Speaker 3>It evolved in that.

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:24.400
<v Speaker 1>These others they changed their business right right then they

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>changed their business eventually went from making money off burgers

0:47:27.920 --> 0:47:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and fries to really having a different level of interest

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:36.799
<v Speaker 1>in real estate. Sure, sure, so, But you don't think

0:47:36.960 --> 0:47:41.600
<v Speaker 1>that happens every time as you pursue profit, like you

0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 1>have to start to foresake quality first.

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:45.759
<v Speaker 2>Maybe like in and out is.

0:47:45.760 --> 0:47:49.480
<v Speaker 1>The closest you can get to going too far to

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>where you could keep some level of quality, you know,

0:47:53.120 --> 0:47:54.640
<v Speaker 1>but still have growth.

0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 3>In certain areas. That's true, And it's not like it's

0:48:02.200 --> 0:48:06.239
<v Speaker 3>there's not a whole lot of innovation in food, you know,

0:48:07.120 --> 0:48:09.480
<v Speaker 3>Like it's pretty much just how can you make how

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:11.839
<v Speaker 3>can you produce a cheaper price per unit, or how

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 3>can you convince people that they should be happier with

0:48:15.520 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 3>this unit at this price? And I think they did

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.759
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of both. I think they re established

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 3>consumer expectation. I just saw a picture. I don't know

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.360
<v Speaker 3>if it's true or not. The internet's full of shit anyway,

0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.200
<v Speaker 3>that showed a big mac in like nineteen eighty eight.

0:48:30.360 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 3>It's like the size of my arm, and then this

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:35.399
<v Speaker 3>one's like this big. You know, now it could fit

0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 3>in the pall my hands tight. So they they've reduced

0:48:37.920 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 3>so much sense. It's probably true. It is true, So

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:45.520
<v Speaker 3>there's that also, But at the same time, you look

0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 3>at innovation and the capabilities of the cell phone or

0:48:54.840 --> 0:49:01.440
<v Speaker 3>technologies and computers or something, or production of cars or

0:49:01.560 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 3>production of houses. It's like not even that, Like I

0:49:05.719 --> 0:49:12.560
<v Speaker 3>think that it's we've lost the you know, fifty thousand

0:49:12.560 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 3>dollars home, but there's way more value in the two

0:49:17.000 --> 0:49:18.879
<v Speaker 3>hundred thousand dollars home than there used to be. I mean,

0:49:18.880 --> 0:49:22.279
<v Speaker 3>it's like packed with all sorts of energy. It's more

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:25.040
<v Speaker 3>flame retard and the amount of like house fires is

0:49:25.080 --> 0:49:29.919
<v Speaker 3>down like a third percent generation over generations. So there's

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:32.240
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot more quality out there in certain areas.

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot more efficiency in others. And then in

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:41.040
<v Speaker 3>things like hamburgers, is there just less meat?

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Is there really more efficiency in it? It just feels

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>like there's more efficiency in things that are like what's

0:49:48.040 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 1>the world I'm looking for? I always tell you it's

0:49:52.320 --> 0:49:53.320
<v Speaker 1>the killer of quality.

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:57.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's a convenience convenience, Like, I don't.

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Know if it's efficiency as much as it's convenient in

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:02.160
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these in a lot of these departments.

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>That's what it feels like.

0:50:04.960 --> 0:50:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like even a house now right, I agree with you,

0:50:07.719 --> 0:50:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Like it definitely is made to handle fired a lot different,

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:14.319
<v Speaker 1>but it's also like a car. Like a car is

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.879
<v Speaker 1>more efficient with gas, right it is. That's fact. It's

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:21.200
<v Speaker 1>efficient with gas, but every other part of it is

0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:25.320
<v Speaker 1>a piece of shit, Like you're not built to last

0:50:25.719 --> 0:50:26.480
<v Speaker 1>like they like.

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Statistically, I don't think that's true. I think the miles

0:50:30.040 --> 0:50:36.279
<v Speaker 3>driven per major like repair has gone up a ton,

0:50:36.600 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 3>but the cost per repair has gone up a ton.

0:50:40.680 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 2>But you know what I'm saying at that point.

0:50:42.800 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's certainly no style and appeal and the design

0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 3>of any of the cars anymore.

0:50:49.800 --> 0:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>But even the complexity of how it rides, you know

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:57.399
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, even the like like.

0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't know if I'm just being

0:51:01.280 --> 0:51:05.920
<v Speaker 1>an old man complaining or like, it's a real valid point.

0:51:05.800 --> 0:51:08.600
<v Speaker 2>Where we're talking about the pursuit of.

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:17.120
<v Speaker 1>Efficiency, but really behind it, you know, behind the curtains,

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.759
<v Speaker 1>Like it might look like a magic trick of efficiency

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.280
<v Speaker 1>to the fans, you know, in the audience, but behind

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:25.520
<v Speaker 1>the curtain, it's all the it's all convenience. It's all

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:28.080
<v Speaker 1>the convenience of how you know, they could keep you

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:30.400
<v Speaker 1>in bed with them, how they could keep you paying them,

0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, all of the above.

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know enough about old cars or old

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:42.359
<v Speaker 3>cars when they were new, you know, to be able

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.720
<v Speaker 3>to compare it to anything, because it matters.

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Old cars when they were new is a lot different

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:47.280
<v Speaker 2>than old cars.

0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So like I don't really know. I mean, I've

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:55.319
<v Speaker 3>had bad luck with cars and good luck with cars.

0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 3>It's just then I imagine that's probably always been the case.

0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:04.000
<v Speaker 1>So how do you how do you embrace how do

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:10.000
<v Speaker 1>you embrace the convenience of life knowing that it kind

0:52:10.000 --> 0:52:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of knowing that it's kind of voided of quality. I

0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:17.440
<v Speaker 1>think what most people do is they just look around,

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:20.399
<v Speaker 1>and that makes them feel okay, but they really only

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.440
<v Speaker 1>look and left to right. They're not looking at time

0:52:22.719 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 1>and knows as another metric. You know what, I I

0:52:28.000 --> 0:52:32.240
<v Speaker 1>don't know a perspective. I don't think it's void of quality.

0:52:32.280 --> 0:52:33.640
<v Speaker 1>I think it's void of character.

0:52:36.440 --> 0:52:40.920
<v Speaker 3>I think it's become so streamlined and efficient with mass

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:45.000
<v Speaker 3>production that there is no more uniqueness, or uniqueness is

0:52:45.080 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 3>way watered down, you know, and and everything has become

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:55.200
<v Speaker 3>extremely like monochromatic rhetorically.

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Speaking, like the NBA. Everybody wants to be the Golden

0:52:58.239 --> 0:53:00.200
<v Speaker 1>State Warriors. Everybody want to shoot threes.

0:53:00.880 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Everybody wants to run the same offense everybody wants to

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:08.320
<v Speaker 3>have the same exact lineup, everything is the same.

0:53:09.840 --> 0:53:10.880
<v Speaker 2>That's really done.

0:53:11.640 --> 0:53:15.320
<v Speaker 1>That's where capitalism is now, maybe not before we were born,

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 1>when capitalism was all about creating something that didn't exist,

0:53:19.239 --> 0:53:22.319
<v Speaker 1>versus now it's a thousand people doing the exact same

0:53:22.360 --> 0:53:24.560
<v Speaker 1>thing in the pursuit and profit.

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:27.000
<v Speaker 3>That's another thing that this guy mentioned on this video,

0:53:27.000 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 3>and I'll send it to you if you want to

0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:30.480
<v Speaker 3>watch it. You can if you're not doing But he

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 3>was talking about and there's something that Jamaican Andre and

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I get you about all the time is these private

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:41.759
<v Speaker 3>equity firms that find a company that's struggling, and they

0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 3>have no innovative answers at all. They just buy the

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:54.239
<v Speaker 3>thing for X dollars, go through fire everybody that they

0:53:54.239 --> 0:54:01.560
<v Speaker 3>could possibly survive firing, cut every cost possibly could survive cutting,

0:54:02.120 --> 0:54:05.839
<v Speaker 3>and then, you know, tip the balance sheet briefly back

0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:08.840
<v Speaker 3>into the positive and sell the company, you know, and

0:54:09.080 --> 0:54:13.360
<v Speaker 3>then the company has to run in that really bare bones,

0:54:14.080 --> 0:54:20.319
<v Speaker 3>shitty way forever unless some unless Albert Einstein walks in

0:54:20.320 --> 0:54:22.880
<v Speaker 3>the door and splits the atom inside of that fucking company.

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.040
<v Speaker 3>And that's a serious thing too. But I think also

0:54:26.080 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 3>people don't like now people are obsessed with security now,

0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 3>like you look at every time there's an economic downturn, Now,

0:54:32.960 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 3>what do we get. We got fifty thousand laws that

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<v Speaker 3>day to make sure there's never an economic downturn again.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, whereas before it would happen companies go out

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<v Speaker 3>of business, new ones who coming people. Now it's like

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<v Speaker 3>you can't let such and such quarter business becuse people

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<v Speaker 3>will lose their jobs. They'll lose their jobs seventy years

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<v Speaker 3>ago for an hour and a half because somebody moved

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<v Speaker 3>into the building and needed workers, you know. So so

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<v Speaker 3>we've constrained things so much as we've turned into like

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<v Speaker 3>a desperately low end society on so many levels. And

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<v Speaker 3>that and people are leverage to the fucking gilts. So

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<v Speaker 3>you can't afford to be unemployed for ninety days or

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<v Speaker 3>you're totally fucked. So I get that too, because shit's

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<v Speaker 3>a way overpriced.

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<v Speaker 1>Then, looking out for tuning into the No Senters podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>And I heard radio Yeah,