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Speaker 2: As we opened the second colder golf back looking throwing

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Speaker 2: middle and son it is God touchdown Detroit, Lyons.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Twin L Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Brad Galli, Channel seven sports director tight End for the

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Speaker 2: Bloomfield Brother Rice Warriors back in the day. Yeah, everybody knows, Brad,

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Speaker 2: and thank you for joining me. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, Week fourteen is wild. Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's five games left, which is Thanksgiving. It's cold,

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Speaker 2: it's snowy, but.

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Speaker 1: It's so different.

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Speaker 5: Can I tell you when we won the state championship

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Speaker 5: Brother Ice in two thousand and five, I went to

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Speaker 5: job shadow somebody. It was not a good time for

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Speaker 5: the Lions at that point. Steve Merritt, you got fired.

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Speaker 5: I was job shotting Matt Shepherd at his radio job

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Speaker 5: and was in this studio.

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Speaker 3: He goes, I can't. I don't have time to take

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Speaker 3: you home.

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Speaker 1: I have to go to a press conference.

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Speaker 3: Are you serious?

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Speaker 5: So, as a high school kid on a day off

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Speaker 5: after we won the state championship, I was in here

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Speaker 5: and sat through Matt Mellan talking about firing Sea Maricie.

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Speaker 3: Wow, times have changed.

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Speaker 2: You're talking about eleven to one team, the number one seed,

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Speaker 2: the best team. That word that hasn't always been muttered

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Speaker 2: around here, but no super Bowl, it's been muttered around here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's been quite the change of twenty years.

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Speaker 5: Beyond realistic. The expectation now for this yeah, which is wild.

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Speaker 2: Well, Brad joins me for the three key segment that

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Speaker 2: we do every week, and let's just jump right into it.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's jump into a big one. I think this

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Speaker 2: week is just the run game importance for Detroit. And

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Speaker 2: I say that, Brad, because you look at Green Bay

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Speaker 2: the last few weeks, they've been playing much better football.

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Speaker 2: They won five lost to Detroit and have won three

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Speaker 2: wants to do going into that game. So that's just

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Speaker 2: to me, that's such an important one. But it really

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Speaker 2: is every week, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: And I think whether or not they have to run

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Speaker 5: really think this week it'll be what Ben Johnson and

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Speaker 5: what Dan Campbell want to do for so many different reasons. One,

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Speaker 5: I think time at possession is going to be a

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Speaker 5: huge thing. They are so beaten up on the defensive

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Speaker 5: And it's something they really didn't do against Chicago a

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Speaker 5: The QUT's coming out out of that room this week.

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Speaker 5: We feel like we played Detroit really really well, which

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they think it was just mistakes and it was

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Speaker 5: That's not the recipe for six struggle then, no, it's not.

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Speaker 5: And the struggles have come on first down too. That's

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Speaker 2: And what I love too is the runs on third

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Speaker 2: I think it's so important in a game like this.

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Speaker 2: You talked about the injuries on defense, the time of possession.

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Speaker 2: To me, I think this is just a game you

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Speaker 3: More physical than them.

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Speaker 2: This is our house. We're trying to get twelve wins.

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Speaker 2: We're the number one seed. This is what we do.

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Speaker 3: Let Sonic and Knuckles eat.

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Speaker 1: You've had a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of national voices on your podcast over the years.

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Speaker 5: You've interviewed to mccamp throughout the last few years. I

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Speaker 5: just love that the narrative about this team has become

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Speaker 5: Okay, third down, they're gonna run the ball because they're

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Speaker 5: this team's identity. Every defense knows the identity, and they're

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Speaker 2: Second big key for me, and look, you mentioned it

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Speaker 3: Fit what they do best. It's tough to do in

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Speaker 3: It's a tough spot to be Week fourteen.

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Speaker 5: Can Jack Campbell clone himself because right now he's the

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Speaker 5: I talk about household names very few, if any, I mean,

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Speaker 1: And I love the fact that he was with Dallas

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Speaker 2: I included that in my ten takeaways from that and

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Speaker 2: It's a style, not the scheme, and they they go

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Speaker 2: I look at this game and I see Zadarius Smith,

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Speaker 2: there's a chance we get Carlton Davis Beck he you know.

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Speaker 3: He practiced this week and he could play.

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Speaker 2: I think it's it's more the depth that we're talking about,

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Speaker 3: But when people are like, this defense is so depleted,

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Speaker 2: That still and when you got those three guys up front,

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Speaker 2: But they just can't afford anymore, right, And it's that

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Speaker 5: Many times we've said that though they can't afford any

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Speaker 5: no doubt about it. They know what they're looking for.

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Speaker 5: We all waited and waited and waited. Danny gonna make

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Speaker 5: Darius Smith look like the right fit. I mean, he

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Speaker 5: celebrations are just so fun. He just he looks like

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Speaker 5: a Detroit lion. And he's a player the Packers know, right.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Matt Flurer already talked about just the dynamic

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Speaker 5: to prove it to your point though, I mean they

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Speaker 2: All right, So run the football, make do with those

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Speaker 4: Listen, man, I'm going ross.

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Speaker 5: Saint Brown gave you a shout out in a scrum

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Speaker 5: If the team listens to the podcast and they listen

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Speaker 2: If we walk away Thursday night cover another win, this

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be It's gonna be a fun last month. Look,

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Speaker 1: It's the Great Uniter, It's the Great Uniter.

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Speaker 5: The Lions are the Great United with everything in this

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Speaker 2: He is Brad Galli's sports director at Channel seven. People

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Speaker 5: Brag Gally at WXYZ Detroit, try to be everywhere. Usually

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Speaker 5: that comment underneath your posts, Tim, that was so informative,

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Speaker 1: So you can find me in Tim's comment section.

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Speaker 3: Now we can find him. He gives you the breakdown

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Speaker 2: You do a great jobs over there, as I appreciate

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Speaker 3: H right Man, Welcome back to the toy M Huddle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Gerry how Welcome and Dan Skipper, left tackle for the

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Speaker 3: Hi doing Dan. I know I had you on in

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Speaker 2: You've been your whole career here just talk about this

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Speaker 2: You know, I heard from a little birdie that you

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Speaker 4: can I do? Yeah, there's guys getting paid all over.

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Speaker 4: We love that for them, But at the end of

441
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Speaker 4: the day, it's what can we do collectively? Can we

442
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Speaker 4: pick up some slack? You know, how can I hold

443
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Speaker 4: up more weight? You know of the load?

444
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Speaker 2: Do you guys view that collectively as an offense too, maybe,

445
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Speaker 2: I mean you dealt with injuries, but that side of

446
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,280
Speaker 2: the ball, the other side of the ball, And kudos

447
00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,080
Speaker 2: to them and the job Aaron is done for, you know,

448
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Speaker 2: continuing to play at the level they are, but they've

449
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Speaker 2: suffered some catastrophic understand And do you guys, as an

450
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Speaker 2: offense say, okay, look now it's our turn.

451
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, yeah, let's do this. Yeah. I mean there's been games.

452
00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 4: You know, you go into it, you're banged up on offense,

453
00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,760
Speaker 4: and you know it starts on you know, the Wednesday

454
00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,080
Speaker 4: meeting of Hey, you know, defense is going to be

455
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Speaker 4: on you this week. You know, offense going to be

456
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Speaker 4: on you. Special teams, Hey, we gotta we gotta have

457
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Speaker 4: a couple of big plays and you know this week,

458
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Speaker 4: you know, you're looking around the building a little bit

459
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,960
Speaker 4: and you're like, all right, it's no secret it's on

460
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Speaker 4: us this week. And you know we need to should

461
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Speaker 4: them more of that load. Special teams needs to as well,

462
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Speaker 4: and you know our defense, like we're never going to

463
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Speaker 4: count them out. That'd be absolutely.

464
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Speaker 2: Now the secondary that you guys got to and tier

465
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Speaker 2: your guys the.

466
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Speaker 4: Secondary, and then you got guys getting a chance, you know, right,

467
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Speaker 4: and and never count that out either. You know, you

468
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,639
Speaker 4: don't know who you got until you're in there. And

469
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Speaker 4: so you know, C and Mo make that play, you know,

470
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Speaker 4: making that sack last week, doing things like that, like

471
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Speaker 4: you don't know what you have till till they're there.

472
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Speaker 4: And so one of these the next guys, we'll find out.

473
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Speaker 2: How much do you love being a part of this

474
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Speaker 2: offensive line?

475
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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's.

476
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Speaker 2: The heartbeat of the team, you know. I mean if

477
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Speaker 2: everything you guys do offensively starts up front. You're a

478
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Speaker 2: big part of that swing tackle now playing some left

479
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Speaker 2: tackle too. Just just how much do you like being

480
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Speaker 2: part of that group?

481
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Speaker 4: It's an awesome group, you know, and we we spent

482
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Speaker 4: so much time together and then you know you had

483
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Speaker 4: had big Kevin there, and you know it's an awesome,

484
00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 4: awesome room, awesome feeling. You know, you got lifelong friends.

485
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Speaker 4: And then oh yeah, we're pretty good at football too,

486
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Speaker 4: right and so you know, but the the football thing

487
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 4: seems to kind of take care of itself. You know,

488
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Speaker 4: we've got a bunch of high level players on that

489
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Speaker 4: on that starting five, and you know, like I said,

490
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Speaker 4: the rest of us were just trying to hold the

491
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Speaker 4: line and get better. You know, you can learn something

492
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Speaker 4: from them every day, you know, just trying to trying

493
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Speaker 4: to grow every day, get a little better every day.

494
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Speaker 4: So when you're called upon, it's you know, you're ready

495
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Speaker 4: to go. But you know, those guys are good players

496
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Speaker 4: out there, you know.

497
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Speaker 2: So, but what's the challenge with with your role? I mean,

498
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Speaker 2: at the minutes, notice you're boom in at left tackle.

499
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Speaker 2: Then boom, you're starting at left tackle, something happens over

500
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Speaker 2: the right side, boom you're you're there. What what's the

501
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Speaker 2: challenge of kind of being that guy that just has

502
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Speaker 2: to step in no matter what and hold the line.

503
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Speaker 4: You know, the preparation side, you don't know, you know,

504
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,120
Speaker 4: when you're the swing guy, you don't know if it's

505
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Speaker 4: going to be the you know, play number one or

506
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,919
Speaker 4: oh tweaked my back and warm ups or you know.

507
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Speaker 4: So you're you're constantly preparing like you're going to start,

508
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,479
Speaker 4: you know, but when you're when you're starting, there's just

509
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Speaker 4: more on game day. So you know, the preparation is

510
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Speaker 4: almost a little easier because you can really nail in

511
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Speaker 4: on the details, focus in, you know, more on individual

512
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Speaker 4: rush plans, you know, specific sides, things like that. You know,

513
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Speaker 4: because not every guy rushes the same over each side.

514
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Speaker 4: They don't play the run the same each way, you know,

515
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Speaker 4: so you can you can hone in on that a

516
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Speaker 4: little bit more. But you know, all eyes are on you.

517
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Speaker 4: You know, you go out there and look like a fool,

518
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Speaker 4: it's on you.

519
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Speaker 3: All eyes are on you. This week at left tackle. Look,

520
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Speaker 3: the best tackle in football is arguably on the other

521
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Speaker 3: side of you.

522
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Speaker 2: I think I probably both agree with that.

523
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Speaker 3: How much do you appreciate and.

524
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Speaker 2: Just the trust level that Look, some guys would maybe say, look,

525
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Speaker 2: let's put Penne over on.

526
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Speaker 1: The left, you know whatever.

527
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Speaker 2: Whatever, They're like, No, we know what what Deck's about.

528
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 2: You know, we know what skips about. Like he is

529
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Speaker 2: toughest nails, He's going to do his job and he's

530
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Speaker 2: going to fight to the end. That's what Ben Johnson

531
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Speaker 2: said this week as offensive line. Mean, you probably love

532
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Speaker 2: a guy that talks about you fight to the end.

533
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

534
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Speaker 3: No, But but just the level.

535
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Speaker 2: Of confidence that they have, that that you can just

536
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Speaker 2: step in there and boom, we're going to do what

537
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Speaker 2: we do, nothing changes, skip steps in there.

538
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Speaker 3: You gotta love that about about.

539
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Speaker 4: The Yeah, it's great guys. Yeah, and you know we're

540
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Speaker 4: not gonna lie. You know, they've given me a lot

541
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Speaker 4: of I get a lot of help from my friends,

542
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 4: you know a lot of chips, bumps, nudges, you know,

543
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Speaker 4: specific things in the run game that you know, maybe

544
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Speaker 4: maybe I'm a little better at or you know a

545
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: little you know, things tweak, things change a little bit.

546
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Speaker 4: But you know, having the confidence to you know, hey,

547
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Speaker 4: we didn't know if this is going to be a

548
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Speaker 4: one week thing too however long, you know, and just

549
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Speaker 4: going out there and giving it everything I got and

550
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Speaker 4: you're their guy. Yeah, you know, that's pretty cool deal.

551
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Speaker 3: Yeah I can imagine.

552
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean going out there and like I said,

553
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Speaker 4: just keep keep holding the line until that gets back

554
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Speaker 4: and hopefully we're not spending too much time looking at

555
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Speaker 4: me on the big screen.

556
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Speaker 3: Quick quick scot of report.

557
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Speaker 2: Green Bays playing pretty good football right now, especially defensively.

558
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Speaker 2: You look at the way they've stopped the run. I

559
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: think they have allowed eighty three rushing years the last

560
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 2: two games combined. A physical bunch up there. You've seen

561
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Speaker 2: them before, but but it looks like they're playing maybe

562
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: a little bit different brand of football. They're they're healthy.

563
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Speaker 2: Just what you see from them on tape. What what

564
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Speaker 2: can fans expect Thursday night?

565
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Speaker 4: You know, I we'll see how the game. Each game

566
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Speaker 4: plays out a little differently. I can't tell you what

567
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: we're playing on doing no secret, but maybe yeah, yeah,

568
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 4: these guys kind of games we fully expect a bloodbath. Yeah,

569
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Speaker 4: we're gonna go out there give it everything we got.

570
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Speaker 4: You know, they came in here last year at home.

571
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Speaker 4: I think that was a Thanksgiving game, Yeah, Thanksgiving. Yeah,

572
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 4: and you know took it to us. Yeah, I mean

573
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: they beat the tar out of us. So you know

574
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Speaker 4: that's still fresh in our mind. You know, we need

575
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Speaker 4: to go out there play our style football. And you know,

576
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 4: if it's if it's a blood bath, it's a bloodbath,

577
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 4: and it's it's a you know, a feeding frenzy on

578
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Speaker 4: the on the secondary for you know whoever, it doesn't matter,

579
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 4: you know, then it'll be that kind of game too.

580
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 4: So you know, you never know quite how the game

581
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 4: is going to go, but we're gonna go out there

582
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Speaker 4: and give it everything we got.

583
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Speaker 2: It's got to be fun to be a part of

584
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Speaker 2: an offense that. You know, you can go into any

585
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: game and play different kind of game. You can run

586
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: it down people's s throts and play that kind of game. Okay,

587
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 2: you want to do that, but you want to put

588
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: eight in the box, all right, we'll throw it on you.

589
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 2: We could play that game, throw it fifty times and

590
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 2: have success that way too.

591
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Speaker 3: So it's got to be fun being part of that.

592
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Speaker 4: Absolutely like that.

593
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can kind nder pretty much anything that this league.

594
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I mean if if it turns into a

595
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: blood bath, it's a blood bath. The track meet, it's

596
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 4: tracked meat. And that's okay. You know we got coach

597
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 4: Johnson does a great job calling games, setting things up,

598
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 4: doing different things, and hey, at the end of the

599
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 4: day he calls it, we haul it well.

600
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Speaker 2: I love the fact that you've become a fan favorite here.

601
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Speaker 2: I think you've done a great job as a swing guy.

602
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 2: You've stepped in and you've done a great job there.

603
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: I think you've made yourself some money and I appreciate

604
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Speaker 2: you taking the time here to join the podcast. Thanks Tim,

605
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the toy M Huddle Podcast.

606
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Speaker 4: I'm very happy to welcome.

607
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Speaker 2: Al Quadin Muhammed new defensive end to the Detroit Lions.

608
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Speaker 2: And look, I had Dan Skipper on Elkadeen and I

609
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Speaker 2: wanted to have you on.

610
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Speaker 3: Too, because so much of this story over the last.

611
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Speaker 2: You know, month, a couple of months, has been guys

612
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Speaker 2: stepping up and taking on bigger roles and contributing.

613
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Speaker 3: You've been a huge.

614
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Speaker 4: Part of that.

615
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Speaker 3: Skip's been a huge part of that.

616
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Speaker 2: A lot of guys have been a huge part of that.

617
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Speaker 2: Keep just talk about the mentality of this team and

618
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Speaker 2: just having so many guys be able to step into roles,

619
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Speaker 2: contribute and just keep this thing rolling.

620
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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, we prepare every day, you know,

621
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Speaker 6: as if you know, you playing no matter what, no

622
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Speaker 6: matter the circumstances. So when we get into c situations,

623
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Speaker 6: you know it's his next next man up mentality, So

624
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm just excited, you know, to be blessed

625
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Speaker 6: with the opportunity to go out there and play and

626
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Speaker 6: be able to contribute and help the team.

627
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Speaker 2: And make the most of those opportunities too. I mean,

628
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: look at your game last week, Sack Past defended. I

629
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Speaker 2: think it's seven pressures.

630
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Speaker 3: You were all over the place.

631
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Speaker 2: You were playing some terrific ball. Right now, you kind

632
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Speaker 2: of sense that to you. Do you feel like you're

633
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Speaker 2: playing your best football right now?

634
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: Absolutely? Absolutely?

635
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Speaker 6: But I always feel like it's room to get better.

636
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Speaker 6: And you know that's what I strive for every day

637
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 6: when we go out there and practice.

638
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Speaker 3: You know, he's your hype man. Part of that too.

639
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 3: I know your twelve year old son. I know this

640
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 3: has been a good story. You laugh.

641
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Speaker 2: Al KaDee Muhammad Junior a defensive end and tight end.

642
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Speaker 2: Right he's playing football himself twelve years old. But I

643
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: heard he is quite the hype man for you. Tell

644
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Speaker 2: me the story.

645
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Speaker 1: That's that's my hype man.

646
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Speaker 6: He calls me before the game and he uh, he

647
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Speaker 6: gives me a speech and stuff like that. And like

648
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Speaker 6: I said in one of my inn it's so it's

649
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 6: so funny that you know the things that you pour

650
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Speaker 6: and it is stelling your kids.

651
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 1: They spit it back at you, you know.

652
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Speaker 6: So it's just funny, you know to hear some of

653
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 6: the things he tell me. But all the things he says.

654
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Speaker 3: It seems to be working. He must have had a

655
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Speaker 3: good message there on Thanksgiving.

656
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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, he had a great message and stuff like that,

657
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Speaker 6: and you know he says some things and you know,

658
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Speaker 6: you made for this the job and go.

659
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Speaker 1: Out there and do this. I know you're gonna do this.

660
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Speaker 1: I know you're gonna do that. So it's just it's

661
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Speaker 1: it's fun.

662
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Speaker 6: You know, it's definitely, you know, fun to have a

663
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Speaker 6: son that you know, look up to you and want

664
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Speaker 6: to do everything that you do. And you know, with

665
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Speaker 6: that being said, he also still you know, want to

666
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Speaker 6: pour into, you know, the things that I.

667
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Speaker 1: Need to do and to be successful. So it's amazing.

668
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Speaker 3: I love that.

669
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got mine seventeen plays hockey and baseball too.

670
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Speaker 3: So just having that kid that's.

671
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Speaker 2: In that athletic realm, right that you can speak that

672
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 2: language with, that's that's something that's it only gets.

673
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 3: Better, let me tell you the older he gets, so

674
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 3: it'll be good.

675
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: Aaron Glenn and playing for for this guy former player obviously,

676
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: but he said something this week that I thought was terrific. Said,

677
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 2: it's not the scheme, it's the style of play, and

678
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 2: and I just thought that resonated definitely with the way

679
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: that you guys play on defense.

680
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: What's it like playing for him?

681
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: And how much do you do you appreciate the faith

682
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: that not only him, but this whole coach that Staph

683
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: has had and putting you in place and letting you

684
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: just play your style of game.

685
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Speaker 6: Well, Coach Glenn, I mean, he's a former player, he

686
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 6: played his game for a long time and he's good

687
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 6: at what he's doing. So he he gets it, you know,

688
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 6: he he gets it. He know what it's like to

689
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Speaker 6: be out there. He understand the game on a different level.

690
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 6: So yeah, I agree with him. You know, it's it's

691
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 6: the it's the style of play, you know, and no

692
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 6: matter you know who's in there, the standing not changing.

693
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 6: So at the end of the day, you know, it's fun.

694
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Speaker 6: I mean, I love the message, I love the mentality.

695
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 6: I love this organization, I love I love the locker room.

696
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 6: The guys that we got in the locker room is amazing.

697
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Speaker 6: You know, it's a lot that goes on behind the

698
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Speaker 6: scenes that a lot of people don't know, you know,

699
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Speaker 6: just to we just have you know, we have a

700
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 6: great team, great people, great coaches, you know, and stuff

701
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 6: like that. So, I mean, coach Glenn is the type

702
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 6: of guy that you you want to go out there

703
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 6: and leave it all on the line for, you know.

704
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 6: And that's that's all the coaches, you know, it's coach

705
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Speaker 6: t Williams, coach Campell.

706
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Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about will too, because

707
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Speaker 2: he's a lot of guys have talked about the impact

708
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Speaker 2: that he's had.

709
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Speaker 1: He's great. He's great. I mean, he don't flinch and

710
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: you know.

711
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Speaker 8: He he's the type of guy, type of man that

712
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Speaker 8: you want to come to work and you want to

713
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 8: give also you want to leave it all on the line,

714
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 8: you know for him, you know, and you know he

715
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Speaker 8: prepares us and get us ready, you know, to.

716
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Speaker 1: Be at our best to win a game.

717
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 6: And he's calm, he's very chill, He's very calm. You know,

718
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 6: he gets it. He just know how to he know

719
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Speaker 6: how to deal with players. And this has been awesome.

720
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Speaker 6: I'm just I'm excited to just be on this type

721
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Speaker 6: of team and just be a part of what we

722
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Speaker 6: got going on and just be around the guys.

723
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Speaker 1: I mean that's from the head coach and all the

724
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Speaker 1: coaches on.

725
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Speaker 2: How much does being guys being close, team teammates being close?

726
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: Because I get the sense that that this team is

727
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Speaker 2: very close.

728
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Speaker 3: How much does that do you attribute that to winning

729
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: to or how much do the two co exist?

730
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Speaker 6: It's important. It's important to to have a close team.

731
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Speaker 6: Most importantly just unselfish guys. And we have a very

732
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 6: unselfish team. You know, guys just go out there and

733
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 6: work and play. They behinds off and don't care. He'll

734
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Speaker 6: get the credit, you know. So when you have a

735
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Speaker 6: team like that, you know you could go far. Are

736
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Speaker 6: I mean, I got here and you know, shout out

737
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Speaker 6: to Pascal.

738
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Speaker 1: He's sitting next.

739
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Speaker 6: To me in the meeting rooms and we talk ball

740
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Speaker 6: all the time, and I ask questions and stuff like that,

741
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 6: and you know he's always, you know, giving me great information.

742
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: You know, it's not about me, it's not about him.

743
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 1: It's about the team, you know.

744
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Speaker 6: And I could say that about you know, so many

745
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 6: other players in that locker room. That's a partiest thing,

746
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 6: even you know, just the coaches. You know, Coach Cam,

747
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 6: you know, he's he's always you know, working with me.

748
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 6: On a lot of different stuff, and nobody knows that.

749
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 6: And we meeting and were going over different information. You know,

750
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 6: it's not about me, it's about the team, you know.

751
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 6: So that's just says what type of people we got

752
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 6: in this building, you know. So it's just I'm blessed

753
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Speaker 6: and I'm excited to continue to take advantage of these

754
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 6: opportunities that's before me.

755
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're certainly doing that. And you seem like a

756
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: great fit for what they're doing here. With your skill set.

757
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 2: You're producing this team keeps winning. Keep that up Thursday

758
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: night primetime in front of everybody. We enjoy watching you play.

759
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: I certainly do you. You're a big part of what

760
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 2: they're doing right now. I appreciate you joining the podcast.

761
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Speaker 3: Thank you, welcome back to the twenty The Huddle podcast.

762
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Speaker 3: I am very happy to welcome in. Mike's offered. He

763
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Speaker 3: does a great job with the Packers. He is the

764
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Speaker 3: editor of Packers dot com. Mike, thanks for joining me.

765
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Speaker 3: I appreciate taking the time.

766
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Speaker 7: Hey you bet good to see it.

767
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Speaker 1: Tim.

768
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Speaker 2: Yeah, here we go again, right the first or the

769
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: second of two. It's the it's the first time the

770
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Speaker 2: Lions have a division opponent for the second time. We

771
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Speaker 2: obviously know what happened the first time. I think even

772
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: you guys will be happy to be indoors this time around,

773
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 2: with the weather that we saw in Green Bay the

774
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: first time. But Mike has always let's start here because

775
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: the injuries are always a great equalizer in this one.

776
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: Where are the Packers health wise? Obviously we know where

777
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: the Lions are. They've suffered, you know, quite a few.

778
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 2: But Mary, Alexander, some of the other guys there, do

779
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: you have any updates on what it's looking like injury

780
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: wise for for Green Bay on Thursday?

781
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Speaker 9: Yeah, the Packers are are hoping to get both Romeo

782
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 9: Dobbs the wide receiver, and jay R Alexander at corner

783
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 9: back from their recent injuries. Dobbs missed the last Packers

784
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 9: last game with a concussion. Alexander's been out for a

785
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 9: bit with a knee injury, and he he missed the

786
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Speaker 9: first game against Detroit. He's been back at practice the

787
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Speaker 9: first couple of days this week.

788
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Speaker 7: No guarantees there yet. Well, we'll see.

789
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Speaker 9: Where things are, you know, come Thursday. But but signs

790
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 9: are are pointing in the direction that that he's on

791
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Speaker 9: the comeback trail and and that would be a big

792
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Speaker 9: player to get back considering, uh he missed that first

793
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Speaker 9: matchup a month ago.

794
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's their their best cornerback. He's one

795
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 2: of the best cornerbacks in the league. Just just how

796
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: does that change defensively for them having a guy like that?

797
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Speaker 2: Is it almost like you can forget about one side

798
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Speaker 2: of the field and you could on the rest. That's

799
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Speaker 2: a big I advantage to have for a defense.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I don't know if i'd I don't know if

801
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Speaker 7: i'd quite put it like that.

802
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Speaker 9: I guess I look at it with Alexander as he

803
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Speaker 9: just gives he gives defensive.

804
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 7: Coordinator Jeff Halfley more options.

805
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Speaker 9: I think his his ability just allows Halflee to maybe

806
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 9: go to more man coverage calls and be able to

807
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 9: just mix up the man and zone that much more

808
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 9: because you can count on, you know, Alexander in those

809
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 9: man coverage calls, and and then along those same lines,

810
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 9: you can maybe get a little bit more creative with

811
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Speaker 9: with the pass rush and some of the pressure calls

812
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 9: because you have that number one corner who's out there

813
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Speaker 9: who can be so reliable for you.

814
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Speaker 7: And not to say that.

815
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Speaker 9: The Packers, you know, have completely changed their game plans

816
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 9: or whatnot. When Alexander has been out, they've certainly, you know,

817
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 9: had some adjusting to do. But anybody knows when when

818
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 9: you've got a top flight cover corner, it doesn't just

819
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Speaker 9: affect one part of the defense. That can affect a

820
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 9: lot of stuff that's going on out there. And I

821
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 9: think if the Packers can get him back, and if

822
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Speaker 9: he really is back to full strength, I see so

823
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 9: much more variety perhaps in what the Packers might try

824
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Speaker 9: to do defensively against a Lions offense that's obviously been

825
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 9: pretty tough to stop all year.

826
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Speaker 3: Now.

827
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Speaker 2: It's a great point by you, because the Lions are

828
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: kind of in the same deal with Carlton Davis. You know,

829
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 2: he's returned to practice earlier in the week. Kind of

830
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: up in the air with him and that knee injury

831
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Speaker 2: and having him certainly changes, you know, what Aaron Glenn

832
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: can do and just the different kinds of coverages in

833
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 2: stuff like that you can play.

834
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Speaker 3: So good point by you.

835
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Speaker 2: I want to stick with that defense for a little

836
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Speaker 2: bit with the Packers.

837
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, obviously, you look at the offense.

838
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Speaker 2: They've been humming along thirty plus points in their last

839
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: two games against San Francisco and Miami. And look, I

840
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 2: know San Francisco and Miami aren't what we thought they

841
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: would be at the beginning of the year. But I

842
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 2: think when you hold NFL teams, I think to eighty

843
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: three combined rushing yards in those two games, that green

844
00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 2: Bay defense is playing much better football. They seemed to

845
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: me watching them. They're a much more physical brand of football.

846
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: They're playing really on both sides of the ball. But look,

847
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 2: you know Detroit's gonna want to come in with with

848
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: sonic and knuckles to run the football. They average one

849
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty yards on the ground and four point

850
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 2: eight per carry. How big has that improvement been for

851
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: Green Bay's defense that they're really stepping up and stopping

852
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: the run of late.

853
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, they really feel like the run defense has made

854
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 9: some major strides. And Matt Lafleur has talked about the

855
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 9: physicality overall of the team has, you know, has sort

856
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 9: of ratcheted up a little bit. You know, Packers have

857
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 9: had their issues against the run in the past. You know,

858
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 9: even though the Lions didn't put up a ton of

859
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 9: points when they came in here to Lambeau, but you

860
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 9: know that that one two punch Montgomery and Gibbs.

861
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Speaker 7: Those guys averaged about five yards.

862
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Speaker 9: Of carry in that game. And then when the Packers

863
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 9: went to Chicago after the bye week, DeAndre Swift busted

864
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Speaker 9: a you know, forty yard touchdown run on a toss

865
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Speaker 9: sweep and they were not happy with where their run

866
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 9: defense was at. Well, since then they went up against

867
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Speaker 9: McCaffrey for the forty nine Ers held him to thirty

868
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 9: one yards on eleven carries.

869
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,719
Speaker 7: Really solid effort.

870
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Speaker 9: There, and then against Miami they're one two punch of

871
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 9: eight chan and moster. You know, those guys only had

872
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 9: you know, about forty some yards on you know, I

873
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 9: can't remember exactly the number, but you know, fifteen sixteen

874
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 9: combined carries something like that. So the strides made are

875
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 9: definitely there. You've seen it statistically and what they've done

876
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 9: against against some backs that can really run the ball,

877
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 9: and they know they've got a huge challenge with that

878
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 9: that backfield of Detroit, but they feel like they're trending

879
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 9: in the right direction to maybe be able to clamp

880
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 9: down on him a little bit more than they did

881
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 9: the first time.

882
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, on the other side of the football, Jordan Love

883
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: playing some pretty good ball of late too that first

884
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: matchup in week nine, might you know he wasn't one

885
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: hundred percent there. I think there were even some issues

886
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: if he was going to play in that game. You

887
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: know they I think they were coming. They had their

888
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: buy the following week, so there was some discussion there.

889
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: He looks like he's around much better. Just how different

890
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,919
Speaker 2: is he when you've got that element to his game

891
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: when he can run, extend plays, get out of the

892
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: pocket a little bit. Because obviously you guys can throw

893
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 2: the football deep. I mean that that you know, that's

894
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: been evident all year. But when your quarterback can extend that,

895
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 2: get out of the pocket, and and just overall has

896
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: more strength in that leg, how big of a difference

897
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: has that made?

898
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 9: Yeah, that that mobility is huge, and in a number

899
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 9: of ways, not only to be able to get out

900
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 9: of the pocket. You know where Jordan Love can be

901
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 9: you know, dangerous at times and in extending those plays,

902
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,959
Speaker 9: but just also in the the you know, maybe maybe

903
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 9: wider variety of of what Matt Lafleur wants to call

904
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 9: on offense in terms of being under center as well

905
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 9: as in shotgun and doing some different things that way.

906
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 9: When the Packers and Lions met the first time. Love

907
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 9: had had injured the groin muscle the previous week at Jacksonville.

908
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 9: He had missed the second half of that game. He

909
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 9: really hadn't practiced for the bulk of the week leading

910
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 9: up to the Lions game. But they felt he was

911
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 9: good to go. They you know, wanted to play, wanted

912
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 9: to play him in the big division matchup, but there

913
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 9: were definitely some limitations to to what he could do,

914
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 9: you know, not being fully mobile and and you know

915
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 9: how you take the snaps under center and all that.

916
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 9: Jordan Love is is looking just physically right now the

917
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 9: best he's looked all season. Because you go back to

918
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 9: Week one in Brazil against the Eagles and he had

919
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 9: the knee injury. Coming out of there, he missed a

920
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 9: couple of games and then was was you know, not

921
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 9: one hundred percent when he first came back from that,

922
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 9: and that was you know, unfortunately, his first came back

923
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 9: from the knee injury earlier in the year was when

924
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 9: the Packers played the Vikings and they lost that game,

925
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 9: you know, a division matchup there. So Love feels really

926
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 9: good about where he is physically, and I think he's

927
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 9: physically in the best spot he's been probably since before

928
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 9: that knee injury way back in Week one.

929
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know another guy who's in a pretty good

930
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: spot is Josh Jacobs right now. I mean, he seems

931
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,959
Speaker 2: like such a perfect fit mic for for what Matt

932
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 2: Lafloor wants to do in that offense, and when you

933
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: watch them, it's crazy.

934
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 3: Is it?

935
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: Is it safe to say that this offense kind of

936
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 2: runs through Josh Jacobs now and everything is better for it.

937
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 3: Vers earlier in the year, this was.

938
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 2: A passing attack, it's downfield, but now it looks like

939
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: this is Josh Jacobs first and foremost at least That's

940
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: how Aaron Glenn, the defensive coordia for Lions, described it

941
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: this week talking about it.

942
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate.

943
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 9: The Packers really, they've they've kind of taken the approach

944
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 9: here of wanting to wanting to establish something with Jacobs

945
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 9: and have Jacobs really be the tone setter for the

946
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 9: offense as opposed to you know, maybe the more you

947
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 9: know traditional Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love type of offense that

948
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 9: that we've seen over the years. Jacobs has just been

949
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 9: a workhorse, and you know, the Packers like now it

950
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 9: won't be you know, playing indoors as opposed to outdoors

951
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 9: in the cold. These last couple games where you know,

952
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 9: you could see the forty nine ers and the Dolphins

953
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 9: weren't entirely interested in tackling Josh Jacobs when it twenty

954
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 9: degrees outside, you know, so that that sort of mentality,

955
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 9: you know, disappears when you go inside Ford Field on

956
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 9: Thursday night. But Jacob's in this ground game has definitely

957
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 9: been the tone setter for green Bay's offense. And then

958
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 9: everything when things are going well, everything is building off

959
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 9: of that with the play action and with Jordan Love

960
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 9: getting time in the pocket to look downfield, and and

961
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 9: the Packers are using Jacobs as a receiver out of

962
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 9: the backfield as well. He had a huge play against

963
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 9: the Dolphins on just a you know, a swing pass

964
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 9: that he ends up making a great move in the

965
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 9: open field and takes forty nine yards to get the

966
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 9: Packers in position for points. So he's number eight, a

967
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 9: huge free agent addition and and very quickly a huge,

968
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 9: huge part of green Bay's offense.

969
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: I got a couple more from Mike Spotford, the editor

970
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 2: pack Com does a great job over there. The Packers

971
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 2: view this as as a must win kind of game. Mike,

972
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: I know there's still you know, four games after this,

973
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: but with Detroit sitting eleven one with you know, Minnesota

974
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: at ten and two, get into four losses might be

975
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: tough to do. They view this as kind of, hey,

976
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: we're we're in must win territory as the calendar flips

977
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: to December.

978
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 9: I think there's no secret that if if the Packers

979
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 9: want to be able to win the NFC North and

980
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 9: come out on top in this uh, you know, this

981
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 9: really competitive three horse race, that they've got to win

982
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 9: this one. If if you lose this one Thursday night

983
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 9: in Detroit, you know, then realistically you're you're looking at

984
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 9: a wild card for the playoffs and and trying to

985
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 9: put yourself in the best position there. Packers feel like

986
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 9: if they if they win this one, you know, stay

987
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 9: at three losses. Hand Detroit lost number two with still

988
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 9: a month left to go in the regular season, it's, uh,

989
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 9: it becomes anybody's Anybody's North, Uh, anybody's NFC North to win.

990
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, you you lose this one and

991
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 9: you fall three games behind the Lions with with just

992
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 9: a month to go, it's it's just not realistic to

993
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 9: think that you can win the division, all.

994
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 2: Right, last one, the Packers, you know, come east, they

995
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 2: come to Detroit Thursday night, prime time, and they get

996
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: a win in ford Field. If what happens, what's the

997
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: biggest key for you, Mike, for the Packers to to

998
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: kind of come out of ford Field even this thing

999
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: up on the year and and uh and get a

1000
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: big win.

1001
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 9: I think it's really the you know, the formula that

1002
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 9: the Packers have used to get on this this winning

1003
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 9: streak here since they last lost to Detroit, They've they've

1004
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 9: cut down on the turnovers. The Packers will only turn

1005
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 9: the ball over once in their last three games, and

1006
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 9: turnovers have been an issue earlier in the season, so

1007
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 9: you have to continue to limit those. You have to

1008
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 9: continue to convert in the red zone and get touchdowns

1009
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 9: when you get in close. After that Lions game the

1010
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 9: first time, the Packers were twenty ninth in the league

1011
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 9: in red zone offense.

1012
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 7: Since then, in.

1013
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 9: The last three games, the Packers have converted eleven out

1014
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 9: of fifteen red zone possessions into touchdowns. They've climbed eleven

1015
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 9: spots in the red zone offense rankings. Just over the

1016
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 9: last three games, so that's another thing. That's another thing

1017
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 9: they've been doing well. And then defensively, it's been about

1018
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 9: limiting the explosive plays. The Packers know all about what

1019
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 9: kind of a home run hitter Jamiir Gibbs is, how

1020
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 9: dangerous guys like Laporta and Saint Brown are with goff

1021
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 9: in the passing game. The Packers are going to try

1022
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 9: to make the Lions, you know, take the long, slow

1023
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 9: slog down the field and not try to give up

1024
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 9: the big chunks of the field and try to force

1025
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 9: some mistake. You start giving up the twenty twenty five

1026
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 9: yard chunk plays, becomes a lot harder for the defense

1027
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 9: to get.

1028
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 7: Off the field.

1029
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 9: And limiting those explosives against the Niners, against the Dolphins,

1030
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 9: that was a big part of those point totals for

1031
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 9: those opposing teams being down to where the Packers like

1032
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 9: their efforts. So all of those things it's a lot

1033
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 9: to ask for, right but all of those things are

1034
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 9: what we'll go into the Packers getting this victory.

1035
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 7: If they can put it all together.

1036
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 2: Well, this should be a fun one one loss Detroit

1037
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: three lost a Green Bay. Two guys, there are two

1038
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 2: teams fighting for the division title, and obviously their playoff

1039
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: lives on prime time. It should be fun. Kicks off

1040
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: week fourteenth. Is it crazy that we're already in week fourteen?

1041
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: Mike?

1042
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, it's nuts, right.

1043
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 9: I mean I was talking about Week one in Brazil

1044
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 9: and that does not feel like it was that long ago.

1045
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 7: But yeah, here we are.

1046
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 3: Well, here we are. It should be a fun one.

1047
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for joining me.

1048
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: Safe travels to Detroit, and I'll make sure I stop

1049
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: buying and say hello.

1050
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 7: Yeah sounds good. We'll see a Thursday time