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Speaker 1: time talking about Clayton Kershawn brilliant over seven innings, had

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Speaker 1: a perfect game, thirteen strikeouts against Minnesota. He was pulled

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Speaker 1: from that game. Mixed reaction. Feels like most people thought

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Speaker 1: he's got a perfect game. He's got a no hitter

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Speaker 1: in his career. But you got a factor in a

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Speaker 1: few things. You go back to his last start, the

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Speaker 1: last start prior to this one, Clayton Kershaw had forty

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Speaker 1: That was the second inning and Tommy John surgery was

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Speaker 1: being discussed. So you have spring training. He didn't throw

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Speaker 1: What was the temperature yesterday afternoon in Minnesota? Was it

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Speaker 1: you have that and you have to factor that in

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Speaker 1: as well. Clayton Kershaw, maybe putting on a good face

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Speaker 1: and protecting his manager, had this to say about being

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Speaker 1: pulled after seven perfect innings. Yeah. I mean I knew

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Speaker 1: So it's a hard thing to do to have to

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Speaker 1: come out of a game when you're doing that. But

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Speaker 1: like I said, we're here to win and that this

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Speaker 1: was the right choice. Here's Dave Roberts on that decision

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Speaker 1: to pull Clayton Kershaw. Every decision I make is for

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Speaker 1: the best interests of the player, their health, and the

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Speaker 1: ball club because there's a lot of people that are

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Speaker 1: charing for the Dodgers, not only just for today and

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Speaker 1: Clayton that tho no hitter, but for the Dodgers to

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Speaker 1: win the World Series, and for us to do that,

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Speaker 1: we need him healthy. We don't have these magical moments

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Speaker 1: as much as we used to because we have load management.

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Speaker 1: We don't have that in the NFL, but you know,

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Speaker 1: when it comes to basketball and baseball, it's load management.

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Speaker 1: Guy's going to play, Pitchers only go five innings. Now

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Speaker 1: everything's a pitch count. NBA, Hey my minutes? How many

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Speaker 1: games I'm going to play? You know, we miss some

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Speaker 1: of these magical moments. We long for those. If you're

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Speaker 1: an older baseball fan, older sports fan, you remember when

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Speaker 1: I always go back to Michael Jordan second year, broke

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Speaker 1: the Bulls weren't a threatening team, but Jordan wanted to

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Speaker 1: the season and had the great performance in the Boston

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Speaker 1: swept by the Celtics, but Michael Jordan became Michael You

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Speaker 1: don't want to know when Michael Jordan became Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't the jumper to win the national title against Georgetown.

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Speaker 1: It was that game in the Boston Garden where he

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Speaker 1: But you know, Larry was saying that's God. You know,

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Speaker 1: that's God in Michael Jordan's suit uniform. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that was I mean, that's the reaction of them, and

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Speaker 1: they were the best team. Jordan was twenty three and okay,

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Speaker 1: he came back from the injury and he wanted to play.

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Speaker 1: In today's NBA, he's not playing. They're not letting him play.

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Speaker 1: He'd be like Zion Williamson. Although Zion doing three sixty

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Speaker 1: he got the game against the Clippers, it'll be a

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Speaker 1: New Orleans at LA. That's Friday. Atlanta will be at Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: I love that Atlanta Cleveland game at Cleveland. That's fun.

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Speaker 1: I do I have a sad existence like Friday night.

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Speaker 1: What are you going to be doing Atlanta at Cleveland? Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: pulling going back to his eye. And he wasn't doing

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Speaker 1: being on show you that? Fritzie, I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: I don't see any upside at all. I keep asking

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Speaker 1: people like, Okay, he knows he's on camera. These videos

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Speaker 1: go viral now because it's Zion out there dunking doing

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Speaker 1: three sixties. I just can't. A doctor clears you, but

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Speaker 1: three sixties. But no, I don't think you could take

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Speaker 1: to play five on five. I don't understand him, but

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Speaker 1: maybe you know, story eventually comes out where we find

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Speaker 1: out that there's more attached to this. Go to Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick dot com. Tons of new T shirts there and

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Speaker 1: including a few celebrating some of the greatest dynasties we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. We'll get to phone calls coming up, and

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Speaker 1: I'd be curious hearing from local Dodgers. You know that

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Speaker 1: you want to see him for the bigger picture of

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Speaker 1: the long haul. Now. We just had a caller from

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles last hour. He said, yeah, but we know

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Speaker 1: how Kershaw has been in the postseason where you can't

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Speaker 1: really count on him. We wanted to see the perfect game.

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Speaker 1: You know, the only other perfect game Sandy Kofax. You know.

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Speaker 1: Kofax's career ended I think at age thirty, and that

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Speaker 1: It wasn't, Hey, you're on a pitch count. Analytics have

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Speaker 1: it does take the emotion the feel out of a

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Speaker 1: analytics attached to it. Eighty pitches for Clayton Kershaw, But

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Speaker 1: I'd like to have seen him stay in just to

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Speaker 1: an honest answer. But Dave Roberts did thinking big picture here,

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Speaker 1: many moments. Now, when you say a great pitching performance,

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Speaker 1: Marv and especially it's crazy because no hitters and perfect

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Speaker 1: I think it's bigger. Like when Randy Johnson had his

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Speaker 1: Johan Santana never recovered from his perfect game. I think

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Speaker 1: But it's like, well he's got a chance. You gotta

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Speaker 1: there's the batting leaders and the pitching leaders, you know,

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Speaker 1: batting average, hits, walks, and then the pitchers. It's like wins, strikeouts,

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Speaker 1: It's like Walker Bueller led the league and quality starts

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Speaker 1: many complete games were there last year? Pollie, give me

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Speaker 1: the over under in the entire sport Yes, baseball. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I've got twenty three complete games thrown in the entire

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Speaker 1: The leader was Adam Wainwright with three, Zach Wheeler with three.

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Speaker 1: There were seasons where guys like Bob Gibson had thirty seven. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Jacob de Gram is wonderful. Does he pitch a hundred innings? Like? Yeah, Pa,

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Speaker 1: Nolan Ryan had five complete games and he was forty

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Speaker 1: iron Man Adam Wayne right to you, Yes, of course

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Speaker 1: I remember that season when Adam Lane right man, he

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Speaker 1: iron man? Yeah? Yes, yes. Time we're pitchers blowing out

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Speaker 1: didn't know about it. Wasn't reported as much because talking

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Speaker 1: about Nolan Ryan, he actually pitched games into like eleventh

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Speaker 1: just I don't remember when guys got injured that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: gets you a playoff series against Phoenix. I think there's

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Speaker 1: some value in that, but apparently they don't. Do you

423
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: think Frank Vogel wanted to get fired. I think that

424
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 1: he probably midway through the season he was thinking, you

425
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: know what, if you're gonna make the move, how about

426
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: doing it right now. That whole thing was a mess,

427
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: and he was easy to blame. I still say they

428
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: blamed Trevor Resa first because remember he got cut before.

429
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: They think the second of last came to it really

430
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: went Trevor Reza, then Frank Bogel. And how about the

431
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: comments by Russell Westbrook. I couldn't believe that he said

432
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Speaker 1: that where he brings up a story about I left

433
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Speaker 1: him a bottle of champagne. But I don't really know

434
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Speaker 1: what the issue is. I don't know why he didn't

435
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: like me. It's kind of thing to do with you personally.

436
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,159
Speaker 1: You just weren't as good as you once were, and

437
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: also you play it all the time. He would he

438
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: played seventy seven seventy eight games. He started every game.

439
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 1: I thought that was unfair of Russell Westbrook to say

440
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 1: he had an issue with me. I don't think he

441
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:33,879
Speaker 1: had an issue with you. They were just trying to

442
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,360
Speaker 1: figure out how you can best be effective because you're

443
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: just not as good as you once were. Yeah. I

444
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: think he's delusional and he should take some blame there

445
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: when he said, oh, you know I wasn't able to

446
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Speaker 1: be myself. Well, you got more opportunities than anybody on

447
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: that roster to play, and you know is being yourself

448
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, missing jumpers, I mean, turnovers, all of those things.

449
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: And they probably are stuck with him. If Lebron likes

450
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, does only like him for one year or

451
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 1: is he gonna like him for two years? Yeah, And

452
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 1: the one thing that Westbrook has going for them, I

453
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: should say the Lakers have going for him. He does

454
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: have an expiring contract, which could potentially make him easier

455
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Speaker 1: to trade. I know Mark Stein had a story out

456
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: there about potentially maybe the Charlotte Hornets with Gordon Hayward's contract.

457
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: We know that Jordan and Russell Westbrook do have a relationship.

458
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Speaker 1: So if you're getting him on a just for one year,

459
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: you could kind of make that work. But I think

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Speaker 1: the Westbrook also would probably frustrated him. I think, and

461
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Speaker 1: this happens to a lot of guys when they native

462
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: New Yorkers who play in New York, they all think

463
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: it's going to be a storybook type of Hollywood ending,

464
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: and a lot of times it doesn't work out like that.

465
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 1: He goes to LA It's the worst experience of his career. Dan,

466
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Speaker 1: He's getting booed for the first time. He's not playing well,

467
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Speaker 1: He's on one of the worst teams that he's ever played.

468
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Speaker 1: For him, he took a lot of the blame, which

469
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Speaker 1: was a little over the top as well, because we're

470
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Speaker 1: going to criticize guys for not playing at least Russell

471
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 1: Westbrook didn't bail out on the team and say I

472
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: got a sore knee, I can't play in the games.

473
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Speaker 1: But it just wasn't good enough. And the star players,

474
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Speaker 1: you want to hold him to a high standard, and

475
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Speaker 1: he just didn't meet that stand. Yeah, I've always said

476
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: that about Westbrook. He plays hard. Sometimes his mind and

477
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 1: his body aren't syncd up, and you know, then you

478
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 1: have some bad moments there. Also, if you look at

479
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Speaker 1: this job, how desirable coaching the Lakers is now with

480
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: a d Westbrook Lebron going into season twenty. You got

481
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: to deal with the front office here. How enticing is

482
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: this job? Are you going to get top end people?

483
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: And would you at least place a call to Phil Jackson.

484
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Genie Buss already has. I had heard that

485
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: trying to get guys on a two year deal, which

486
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: kind of lines up with Lebron. So maybe when Lebron

487
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 1: is done, they would probably go in a different direction.

488
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: There's only thirty of those jobs. It is the Lakers.

489
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Speaker 1: But to your point, I looked it up today. No,

490
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: they've only won over thirty seven games three times in

491
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Speaker 1: ten years, so it really has been kind of a dysfunctional,

492
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,639
Speaker 1: losing situation. The one outlier was the year they went

493
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: to the bubble and they won the kind of Summer

494
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: league able championship with Lebron James. Otherwise, it really has

495
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Speaker 1: It's been a poor organization the last ten years, and

496
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 1: that's the thing. You could blame as many coaches as

497
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: you want, you also have to look at the front

498
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: office in ownership, and no offense to Jeanie Buss, it

499
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Speaker 1: really hasn't worked out the last ten years. I get it,

500
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: you did get the one championship, but for the most

501
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: part it's been a losing situation and there's been a

502
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: lot of dysfunction there. Yeah, when you haven't made the

503
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Speaker 1: playoffs in seven of the last nine years, this isn't

504
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Speaker 1: on Frank Vogel or Russell west Road. It's on something

505
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,360
Speaker 1: a little bit larger, more systemic. We're talking to Frank Aisola.

506
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Speaker 1: He of course is around the Nets and you're the

507
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Speaker 1: Nets studio host Ben Simmons. Any chance as the Nets

508
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Speaker 1: progress in the playoffs that he could play, I guess,

509
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Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know. What can you realistically

510
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Speaker 1: expect for him? And the last time we saw him

511
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Speaker 1: playing a game that was June twentieth, and that was,

512
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, the last game of Philadelphia. Couldn't make free though.

513
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: He was fifteen to forty five from the free throw

514
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Speaker 1: line in that series. So now, after not playing with

515
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Speaker 1: the Australian national team, not playing any preseason games, regular

516
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: season game, playing tournament game, you might miss games one

517
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Speaker 1: and two of this series. You're just gonna walk into

518
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Speaker 1: a playoff series in high pressure situations. What is he

519
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: going to be in the game in the fourth quarter.

520
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen when you get when they're in

521
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: the penalty? How if you're email a dook. If it's

522
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: the Celtics that he does play against, how do you

523
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: not file the guy sent him to the freethrow line.

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Speaker 1: That's been a big thing. His confidence. The last time

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00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: we saw him play, his confidence was shot. And there

526
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: was a story out there somewhere where somebody said, oh,

527
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: his confidence in sky high. How would we know that?

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Speaker 1: How are you gauging that? He hasn't played a basketball

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Speaker 1: game since last June twentieth And the last time we

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00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: saw him play ay, he wouldn't shoot, and when he

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Speaker 1: was at the free throw line, he couldn't make a

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Speaker 1: free throw. And I wonder about this that in other sports,

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Speaker 1: you know, baseball, you've had guys who can't throw the

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Speaker 1: ball back to the pitcher. You've had pitchers who can't

535
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Speaker 1: throw the ball over the plate. You have Steve Sacks

536
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: or Chuck Noblock who can't throw it from second to first.

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Speaker 1: You know, we look at that and we go, Okay.

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00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: Golfer Kevin nag would get at the top of his

539
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: swing and he didn't know how to get back down

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00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: to the ball. Yips. You know, guys who were putting. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, we don't factor that in with basketball players,

542
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: that they get to the free throw line and they

543
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: have they freeze up, they don't know how to do something.

544
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: It feels like that's been left unexplored, whereas we've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot more instances, or at least we've unearthed those

546
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: in golf and baseball. Why is that. I think that's

547
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: a great call. And I also think how many times

548
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: have we've seen guys they'll show them in warm ups

549
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: or they'll show them on the practice court and they're

550
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: knocking down freethros Janice was like that if you remember

551
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: last year, and then of course he figured his whole

552
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: situation out during the playoffs, which was pretty extraordinary the

553
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: way that he did that. But I think that's a

554
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: very fair point. I think maybe you feel isolated out

555
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: there at the free throw line, and to your point,

556
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Speaker 1: you kind of get the yips and you cannot make

557
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Speaker 1: free throws. And you know, Shaq was a guy that

558
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: was a poor free throw shoot. I remember the day

559
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: that he got when it was announced he was going

560
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame and they asked him about

561
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: free throws. Shooting and about shooting underhand. He said, I'd

562
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,239
Speaker 1: rather miss all of them than shoot him underhand. But

563
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: he also used to bring up the point they didn't

564
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: really lose big games because he missed free throws. But

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Speaker 1: you could kind of relate a lot of the free

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Speaker 1: throws that Ben Simmons missed last year against Atlanta to

567
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: them blowing that game game five or they had the

568
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: big lead, and then obviously game seven when they had

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Speaker 1: a big lead. Mason Plumley is right handed. He's shooting

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Speaker 1: free throws left handed. If you go from right handed

571
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: to left handed, Frank, go all the way to underhand.

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00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: I agree, right you have a better chance of making

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Speaker 1: underhand free throws. And you can't say, well, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to be embarrassed. No, you're already embarrassed. You make

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Speaker 1: less than forty percent of your free throws. Yeah. Well,

576
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: what you need to do is, why don't you get

577
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Speaker 1: Rick Barry on? And all you have to do is

578
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: ask him about it and then sit back and he'll

579
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: go on for about twenty minutes and he's gonna tell

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00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,479
Speaker 1: you how he would solve it. Oh, now he's going

581
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: to solve everybody. I mean, Rick Barry's a piece of work.

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00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: You know how long he'll go on for. But there

583
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: is something to be said for that. And it's also

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00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: a vanity thing. I don't want to be the guy

585
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: that everyone's making fun of shooting freak those but yet

586
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: nobody makes fun of you if you make him. Frank

587
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: I agree, I don't. I don't get it. And it's

588
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: a big and you're losing games because of it. That

589
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: that's the thing that gets you. I was surprised with

590
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: the Nets and the Cavaliers that you had a near

591
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: perfect game by Kyrie and a unbelievable game with Durant,

592
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: but you had to hold on against the Cavaliers at home.

593
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: How does that bode for them playing against the Celtics. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And the big thing with Steve Nash and Steve Nash

595
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: two time MVP, great offensive player. When he played for Phoenix,

596
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: all everybody talked about was offense, never defense. All Steve

597
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: talks about with the Nets is defense. How they need

598
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: to get better. One of their last games of the season,

599
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: they played the Houston Rockets. They gave up a ton

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Speaker 1: of points their final game against Indiana where you would

601
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: have needed, you know, a scorebook to figure out who

602
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: these guys were they put up one hundred and twenty

603
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: six on the Brooklyn Nets. Defense is an issue with them.

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00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Now Cleveland did cut away. I think it was either

605
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: five or six. Never a one possession game of the

606
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: final three quarters, but they had a twenty two point

607
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: lead and Cleveland got back into it. It's an issue,

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00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 1: and if Cleveland had had Jared Allen, that could have

609
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: been a much different story than That's very easy. It

610
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: could be playing tomorrow night just to get into the plays. Offensively,

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00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: there's nothing to worry about with the Nets. Kevin Durant

612
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: is at a different level. He makes the right play

613
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Speaker 1: every single time. Both he and Kyrie were double digit assists.

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00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: That could buy for twenty three assists in that game.

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00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about that team offensively. The

616
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: big thing is going to be defense, which we were

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Speaker 1: just talking about Ben Simmons offensively, he would help them defensively.

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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you as always, Thank you, Frank,

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Speaker 1: could seeing me Dan, take care? That's Frank EISLI. Commissioners

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Speaker 1: Silver will be on the program tomorrow. You know I

621
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Speaker 1: got a question for the commissioner tomorrow. I would hope, well, no,

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Speaker 1: I got one question that nobody is thinking about right now,

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Speaker 1: you know what, let me have t keep but let

624
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Speaker 1: me bring back Frank here. Frank, I I have one

625
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: question here for the commissioner. I got a few questions about,

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Speaker 1: you know, load management, but I'm going to ask you,

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Speaker 1: you play the role of commissioner, silver Good, why is

628
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Speaker 1: it we allow players to carry the ball? Is there

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Speaker 1: an infraction of carrying the ball? Can that be called

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Speaker 1: in today's NBA? Why do we allow that? When you

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Speaker 1: know Iverson and Stockton, you know we would call carrying

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Speaker 1: on them. And I think early in the season it

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Speaker 1: does get called, and then it seems like as the

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Speaker 1: season goes on they call it less and lesson. Every

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Speaker 1: Ask them this, what if we changed if to win

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Speaker 1: about this too, scoring title? All that stuff? Make it total?

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Speaker 1: No one talks about who led the NFL in average

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes per game. It's total. So Trey Young led

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Speaker 1: the league in total points, total assists. Maybe guys on

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Speaker 1: the second out of a back to back would just

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Speaker 1: play the second half. It's not going to affect your average,

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Speaker 1: but it'll hope your totals. Let's go to total since

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Speaker 1: guys are playing high fifties, low sixties. Well, also, you

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Speaker 1: could put a minimum to make the first and second

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Speaker 1: and third team All NBA, and money factors into that.

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Speaker 1: Now with all NBA, so make it. I I agree

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Speaker 1: put that on there. So who incentivize the players to

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Speaker 1: play in more of the game and also no positions.

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Speaker 1: Give me the five best players on first team. Five

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Speaker 1: best players, five best player, Rudy Gobert, good player, not

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Speaker 1: one of the top fifteen players in the NBA. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you're you know they they benefit from you

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Speaker 1: know how many great centers have there been? Now maybe

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Speaker 1: a few more now, But I just think five best

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Speaker 1: players might be five guards, but they're five best players.

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Speaker 1: And remember when that first came up and a bunch

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Speaker 1: of the center said, well, that's not fair because now

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Speaker 1: nobody's going to vote a center. Well, the top the

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Speaker 1: guys that are probably gonna finish one, two and three

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Speaker 1: in the MVP boat this year or NBID Nicolae Yokich,

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Speaker 1: Jannis and Teta Coumbo. Yeah, all big man Jannis more

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Speaker 1: of a four to five. But to your point, you

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Speaker 1: know they're going to be some years where the five

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Speaker 1: best players are guards, some years where they're small forwards.

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Speaker 1: This year three of the best players in the league.

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Speaker 1: We're all big man. Thank you, Frank, and thanks for

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Speaker 1: playing the role with Commissioner. Commissioner Silver. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has some comments about being disrespected, I'll have

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Speaker 1: calls coming up. I mentioned this story with Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: He did an interview recently, and you know, he's sort

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Speaker 1: of in limbo do It was a podcast you Never

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Speaker 1: Know podcast, I believe, and Baker is friends with the

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Speaker 1: host of the podcast, and it's just an odd it's casual.

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Speaker 1: He's on a couch. There's a dog there, but the

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Speaker 1: dogs is sleep and its legs are up in the air.

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Speaker 1: So anything Baker says, you can't help but see this

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Speaker 1: dog over there lying down asleep with its legs up

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Speaker 1: in the air. And Baker talked about being disrespected by

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Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. I really, truly, honestly have no regrets

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Speaker 1: of my time in Cleveland of what I tried to

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Speaker 1: give that place. Right and true Clevelanders and true Browns

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Speaker 1: fans know know that I feel disrespected because I was

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Speaker 1: told one thing and they completely did another. That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm in the middle of right now. You know what. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I got my taste of it because I've had four

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Speaker 1: different head coaches in four years, a bunch of different coordinators.

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Speaker 1: Talk about the highest they always come back. Okay, he

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Speaker 1: was lied to. Things change. It's a business. They probably

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Speaker 1: told him that hey, get through this season, put up

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Speaker 1: some good numbers and will extend you, and then Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson becomes available. If Baker Mayfield plays well enough, then

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Speaker 1: they don't even consider Deshaun Watson. At least I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: think you would because of what Deshaun Watson cost you

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Speaker 1: at the time when Baker got hurt and it was

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Speaker 1: his left shoulder, and I thought, if you continue to play,

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Speaker 1: then you might run the risk of them saying we're

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Speaker 1: going to move on from you. And he continued to play,

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Speaker 1: and he didn't put up good numbers, so he kind

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Speaker 1: of left himself out there. While I applaud somebody for

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Speaker 1: wanting to play, it came back and haunted him, and

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Speaker 1: it left opened the door to bring and somebody else.

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Speaker 1: Baker's taking it personally. You can't help it doing do

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Speaker 1: that because it's just you. The team is not looking

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Speaker 1: at this is personal. It's like this is business. Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: with what he's done off the field, they're still willing

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Speaker 1: to go all in on DeShawn Watson. That might tell

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of how about how you play

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Speaker 1: or what they think of you. Yeah, be awesome. If

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Speaker 1: the Browns were like, uh, we feeled to too, so

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Speaker 1: we were told we were getting a good quarterback. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow uh. Baker was also asked about, you know, the

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Speaker 1: fans booing him, and he had this to say, you

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Speaker 1: look at a bunch of other sad stories, like if

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Speaker 1: guys don't play ball, then that happens, right, Like that's

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Speaker 1: their way out right, and so when people are like

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Speaker 1: so critical of it, it's like these guys are that's

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Speaker 1: the way, Like thee I would love to show up

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Speaker 1: in somebody's cubicle and just booyah and set them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's that's not a good take there. That's if you said,

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Speaker 1: all right, you're gonna make eighteen million dollars a year

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Speaker 1: in your job, and let's say you work for the

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Speaker 1: city and Baker Mayfield's going to show up and boo you.

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Speaker 1: How bad you're gonna feel? Probably not that bad. You know,

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Speaker 1: Baker's making money. People pay to see you, and that

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Speaker 1: goes along with the territory. You got to understand, you know,

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Speaker 1: these fans want to win. They hope to win. When

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Speaker 1: they don't win, then they take it out on you.

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Speaker 1: Is it fair? No? Is it part of the job. Yes?

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Speaker 1: If you win, you don't get booed. Were they booing

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Speaker 1: you at Oklahoma? Probably not in Cleveland, they were. He's

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Speaker 1: taking it personally, and you got to understand it's a business.

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Speaker 1: Are you going to be lied to, Yes you will be.

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Speaker 1: Are they going to look at you as a commodity?

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Speaker 1: Yes they will. And the sooner you understand that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I took it personally at ESPN personally. Some of the

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Speaker 1: things they did, well, they looked at it his business. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's personal to me, and I'll man, I'm so upset

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to hold this against them. Then after

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Speaker 1: a while my wife goes they kind of got a

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Speaker 1: hold of it over you, like, you got to let

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Speaker 1: that go. But if I'm Baker Mayfield, then you just say,

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Speaker 1: I want to make the Browns regret that they let

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Speaker 1: me go. I want to show them I can go

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Speaker 1: to Seattle and I'm going to be a winner. And

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Speaker 1: you know this is where you go in and just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a team friendly deal. I want

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Speaker 1: to be your quarterback in Seattle. Mitchell true bisky. He

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Speaker 1: ate a bleep sandwich. He got kicked to the curb

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Speaker 1: by Chicago, went to Buffalo, didn't get to play. Now

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Speaker 1: he's the Steelers quarterback. Jameis Winston got kicked to the curb,

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Speaker 1: didn't play, went to New Orleans or Saint and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden he was like, now I'm the

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback there, Marcus Mariota. It happens. Yes, all those

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks you just named were humbled for sure, and they

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Speaker 1: were top picks. I don't get the sense that Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield is there yet. No. I don't get the sense

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Speaker 1: that he's like, you know what, yeah, team friendly, let

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Speaker 1: me prove myself again. I think he's more like, not,

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Speaker 1: somebody pay me because I'm Baker. You know why, Because

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Speaker 1: he's got too many commercials. So he looks at himself

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Speaker 1: differently because I'm not just a quarterback. I'm a brand. Yes,

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Speaker 1: yes he does. I don't think Mitchell Trubisky has any commercials.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Jameis Winston has any. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota has any. You gotta understand, at some point,

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Speaker 1: you know the expiration date, the surfaces and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Your shelf life is this and then you move on now,

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Speaker 1: you know, rein venture cell. Yeah, because in his mind,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's like, yeah, you know, guys like

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Speaker 1: me and Jamis and Marcus. You know, he's more like me,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Tom Yeah, you know, he's like, that's guys like us.

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Speaker 1: You know. Jonathan Alexander covers the Panthers for The Sherlotte Observer.

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Speaker 1: He was on a podcast, The Roar, a Carolina Panthers podcast,

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Speaker 1: and he was discussing some of the latest developments and

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Speaker 1: what you know the Panthers are going to do with

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacking position, and he said the following, I do

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Speaker 1: think one of the Panthers quarterbacks, len it's all said

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Speaker 1: and done, is going to be either Jimmy Garoppolo or

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield. The reason why the Panthers had disinterest in

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Jimmy Garoppolo is because their contracts are

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Speaker 1: not something that they would want to take on, and

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Speaker 1: it was something they couldn't take on to they were

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Speaker 1: focused on Deshaun Watson at the time. Well, if you

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Speaker 1: can get Cleveland to pick up the tab on Baker

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Speaker 1: Mayfield's contract, he's probably going to have a few options here,

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Speaker 1: and one of those options might be Pittsburgh. But if

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Speaker 1: you want to go into Seattle, do you want to

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Speaker 1: go into Seattle when Seattle's rebuilding, because you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: the blame. They're not gonna go. Hey, you know what

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00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: they were rebuilding. We can't put all the blame on you.

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00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: The quarterback gets way too much credit and way too

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Speaker 1: much blame. And I wouldn't rule out to Seattle. They may,

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Speaker 1: you know, draft a quarterback. Carolina could do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: But Sam Darnold's there another guy who humble Pie. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Jets probably lie to him as well. Final hour

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