Speaker 1: So Charles Barkley doesn't think Lebron James is as good
Speaker 1: as Kobe Bryant. He is a ride or die Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan guy. As we know, which is that's normal, but
Speaker 1: the whole shade about Lebron being worse than Kobe. In
Speaker 1: a recent interview with Bob Costas on HBO, Charles Barkley
Speaker 1: was asked where Lebron. I love these things. I love
Speaker 1: it when it's like, let's just ask him where they
Speaker 1: rank everyone. He asked him where Lebron James compares to
Speaker 1: Kobe and MJ. Probably the most popular banal argument of
Speaker 1: all time just keeps being used over and over and
Speaker 1: over again, rinse and repeat. He said, though, in fairness, Hugh,
Speaker 1: I don't even put Lebron past Kobe. Let's get that
Speaker 1: out of the way. Lebron has stacked his teams. Let's
Speaker 1: be realistic. The struggle is part of your legacy? Is
Speaker 1: that true?
Speaker 2: Do you think the struggle is part of your legacy?
Speaker 2: It can be sort of. I don't completely.
Speaker 1: I mean, I disagree with the way he said it,
Speaker 1: but I understand what he means.
Speaker 2: If that makes sense. Yeah, See, we gotta kind of
Speaker 2: like go off of.
Speaker 1: Just the ridiculousness of that statement, which is people say
Speaker 1: I'm a Lebron hater because I make fun of Lebron
Speaker 1: a lot because he's corny and he brings it on himself.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the caliber of play that he
Speaker 1: puts out on the floor a night in a night,
Speaker 1: eight out basis, that's not true in the least.
Speaker 2: Like to say Lebron James.
Speaker 1: Just always had super teams and they were always stacked.
Speaker 1: He's always had a plethora of great talent around him
Speaker 1: is just a lie.
Speaker 2: That's just a complete lie.
Speaker 1: Those tea, those Cleveland teams, the early ones where he
Speaker 1: was overperforming, those teams were trash.
Speaker 2: Lebron James literally carried those.
Speaker 1: Teams for years and they were not going to change
Speaker 1: anything until he left. Let's look at the tape two
Speaker 1: thousand and five, two thousand and six, twenty one year
Speaker 1: old Lebron wins fifty games with Ronald Murray and Larry
Speaker 1: Hughes as the number two and number three options.
Speaker 2: I like Larry Hughes, whatever, like.
Speaker 1: The super team with Ronald Murray and Larry is losing
Speaker 1: seven second round of the Pistons, the best team in
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 2: Two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and seven, twenty three year old Lebron James
Speaker 1: takes the Calves to the finals against the Spurs with
Speaker 1: a starting lineup of Lebron, Daniel Gibson, Drew Gooden, Ilgauskiz
Speaker 1: and Sasha Pavlovich.
Speaker 2: What a stud team that was. Sasha Pavlovitch is always
Speaker 2: the guy when you see on Twitter's like name the
Speaker 2: most random NBA player you can your head.
Speaker 1: That's always two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,
Speaker 1: Lebron loses in the Eastern Conference Finals and six to Orlando,
Speaker 1: with Moe Williams Delante Fuck your Mom.
Speaker 2: West as the next highest scores.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine ten, Calves losing the Semis to
Speaker 1: the Celtics in six. His court mates again Mo Williams,
Speaker 1: Anton Jamison, Anthony Parker and Andy Verjal.
Speaker 2: I mean, these are trash ass teams. It was only
Speaker 2: after Dan.
Speaker 1: Gilbert literally refused to surround him with any winning players
Speaker 1: at all that PROBM was like, Yeah, I think this
Speaker 1: is good.
Speaker 2: It's been a long time coming. Two thousand and three
Speaker 2: to twenty ten. I think I'm good. I think I'm good,
Speaker 2: and so yeah, MG had some bad teams.
Speaker 1: But to say that Lebron has always just stacked, had
Speaker 1: no adversity.
Speaker 2: His legacy is just sullied by tons of.
Speaker 1: All Stars and all NBA caliber players being around him
Speaker 1: and him just recruiting them all to Cleveland. Like even
Speaker 1: when he came back to Cleveland, there were some rough years.
Speaker 1: There are those years after Kyrie left rough rough. Kevin
Speaker 1: Love is not the same player this It was bad.
Speaker 1: It was j R.
Speaker 2: Smith.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on now, it was emon shot. It
Speaker 1: was it was Richard Jefferson who was on one side
Speaker 1: of his body left.
Speaker 2: It was Jared Dudley, James Jones, James Jones, Mike.
Speaker 1: His back from the heat. It is bad, still bad.
Speaker 1: No one wanted to win more than Jordan. And I
Speaker 1: bet you if Lebron, if Michael Jordan was in Lebron's shoes,
Speaker 1: he would have gone to Miami too.
Speaker 2: He would have gone to Miami two