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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Strictly Business, the podcast in

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Speaker 1: which we speak with some of the brightest minds working

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Speaker 1: in the media business today. I'm Andrew Wallenstein with Variety.

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Speaker 1: Television is choc a block with home renovation shows, but

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Speaker 1: there's one that manages to stand apart from the pack. Restore,

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Speaker 1: which is about to begin its seventh season on the

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Speaker 1: Magnolian Network, is the one show that brings an appreciation

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Speaker 1: for architecture and history. And for that you can thank

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Speaker 1: my next guest, the host of Restored, Brett Waterman, who

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Speaker 1: stop by to explain his unique approach. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: with Brett in just a moment, and we are back

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Speaker 1: with Brett Waterman, hosted the unscripted series Restored, which just

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Speaker 1: returned for a new season on the Magnolia Network. You

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Speaker 1: could also find past episod streaming on the Discovery Plus

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Speaker 1: streaming service. Thanks for coming in right, Thanks Andrew, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for having me. So do you feel in the approach

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Speaker 1: that you have that is so sort of heavy on

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Speaker 1: architectural appreciation, that you're doing something that's a little different

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Speaker 1: from all those other kinds of shows out there, Because

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Speaker 1: that's what's always drawn me in as a viewer. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you saying that, and I definitely think our approach

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Speaker 1: is unique, at least in regards to the television world,

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Speaker 1: because I really try to focus on restoration or renovation

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Speaker 1: really based on the intent of the original architecture. Because

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Speaker 1: I think in general, if you stick with the architectural

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Speaker 1: intent it's meanted to be, you really have a timeless product.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where a lot of people get

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Speaker 1: lost when they're trying to update or stay with current trends.

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Speaker 1: They fail to recognize that the house they have has

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Speaker 1: an architectural style, and if you look closely, that style

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Speaker 1: can very often be timeless. Sure. I mean it seems

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Speaker 1: to me when I watch some of these other shows,

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Speaker 1: there isn't so much a respect for say, oh, let's

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Speaker 1: maintain that craftsman the way it is. It's just start like, hey,

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Speaker 1: let's do something nice, let's make something better. That's what

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Speaker 1: you know, that's what I see is different from you. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that, and I think it's true.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's also a kind of a fact

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Speaker 1: that has evolved because of let's be honest, mass media marketing.

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Speaker 1: Big box retailers in many ways. They want you to

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Speaker 1: change as much as they can so they can sell

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Speaker 1: as much product as they can. And sometimes when you're

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Speaker 1: in an architectural home or an older home, there is

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Speaker 1: so much material investment that has already been made. And

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Speaker 1: I have this problem with my general contractors often because

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Speaker 1: many general contractors don't do restoration and they want to

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Speaker 1: get in and get done right. They want to make

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Speaker 1: it quick, and restoration is not quick, and it takes

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Speaker 1: a little bit longer, but quite often it's more cost effective,

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Speaker 1: have a better quality of materials, and almost all the

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Speaker 1: time it's a better design quality that you're getting because

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Speaker 1: it's rooted in vintage, true architecture. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: lost in a lot of renovation because they just they

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Speaker 1: want in, they want out right, and they're not really

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Speaker 1: thinking and what's the long term investment and how that

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Speaker 1: affects the property in which they're working on. And so,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, you call yourself a preservationist, and

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, do you feel that you're educating the public

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Speaker 1: on even what preservation means? Andrew, that's a great question.

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Speaker 1: I hope so, because I think it's one of the

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Speaker 1: things it's interesting and I'll step back for a second.

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Speaker 1: When we first started talking about the show on what

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Speaker 1: kind of show we were going to do, there was

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Speaker 1: a big focus on flipping and flipping houses, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not a flipper. In fact, I'm very much against flipping

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Speaker 1: And I think most people when you think about building

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Speaker 1: overall impact on the greater community and it's architecturally supported

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Speaker 1: already there. Does that make sense, Yeah, totally. I'm curious

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Speaker 1: it's a really interesting story because I didn't I don't

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Speaker 1: it was. You know, I kind of fought it for

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Speaker 1: market was pretty tough, and I decided, if I'm going

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Speaker 1: I said, sure, come over. I was in construction mode,

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Speaker 1: John really just said to me, he goes, is anyone

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Speaker 1: and they're like, go, it's once in a life opportunity

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Speaker 1: So they came up with a concept called Backflip and

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Speaker 1: to the show title became restored, and we've been going

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Speaker 1: for golly, coming up on eight years. How many episodes

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Speaker 1: well over sixty seventy episodes. It's kind of hard. There's

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Speaker 1: without the repacks. I think so do you. Is it

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Speaker 1: many options. Then you got to winnow it down Andrew,

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Speaker 1: look when I travel. I've travel all over this country.

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Speaker 1: When I'm in new areas, I'm always looking for the

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Speaker 1: So I would like to take restored or version of

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Speaker 1: I even hate to use the term, but what many

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Speaker 1: Because if you have a town that has more than

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Speaker 1: something there. There's something that drew those people there, be

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Speaker 1: natural setting. There's something that's holding people to that community,

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Speaker 1: and that's locked in history, and it's still relevant if

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Speaker 1: that live there are in love with and why they

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Speaker 1: love their town. You've traveled, right, What do you find

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Speaker 1: when you're out somewhere and you meet new people in

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Speaker 1: Do you find people to be engaging and friendly? Oh? Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I can think of a few different trips I've taken

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Speaker 1: over the years, Cuba, for instance, where it was all

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Speaker 1: about meeting the people and them sharing what their lives

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Speaker 1: were like in the places. You know, Cuba interesting architecturally

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Speaker 1: and I think that's I think that you can relate

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Speaker 1: what I found, like, I worked in Saint Louis for

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Speaker 1: years and I love love that city. It's honestly one

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Speaker 1: I often found was when I was working in Saint

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Speaker 1: They're like, oh, I'm sorry, you know, you must really

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Speaker 1: hate being here. I'm like, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 1: You have one of the most amazing cities I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: and then you start getting excited and showing things. It's

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Speaker 1: like what I do with homeowners are in their houses.

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Speaker 1: Quite often they don't realize how special of a house

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Speaker 1: they have until you start showing them materials, details, workmanship,

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Speaker 1: and they're like, we didn't see that. So it's the

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Speaker 1: trained eye that opens up the world to the beauty

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Speaker 1: and things that make everything unique and special. I think

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Speaker 1: it's all over the country, it's all over the world.

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Speaker 1: Last question, I'm curious about your relationship with Magnolia the Network.

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Speaker 1: In other words, are they just like, hey, Brett, do

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Speaker 1: your thing or are they very hands on? Lots of

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Speaker 1: notes like just curious. It's it's really been amazing. I

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Speaker 1: mean I'm not just saying that it's funny because when

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Speaker 1: Chip and Joe came in forgive me sorry for the

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Speaker 1: few people on the planet who don't know them by

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Speaker 1: their first name, Chip and Joe Gaines, when they came

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Speaker 1: in to kind of reformulate their own brand and build

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Speaker 1: something special, and they took a lot from the day.

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Speaker 1: First off, I got to back up and see scripts

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Speaker 1: Networks who originally h ETV and discovering all it. We've

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Speaker 1: been a very tight knit group and it's like a

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Speaker 1: big family, and they've been phenomenal to work with. Friends.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends in the network have

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Speaker 1: been great. Chip and Joe take it and Alison, I

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Speaker 1: gotta say Page they take it to another level because

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Speaker 1: it is like working with your neighbor. Literally, they're kind,

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Speaker 1: they're engaging, they listen to you, they want your opinion,

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Speaker 1: and they for the most part of giving me free

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Speaker 1: rein to do what I want. I think they tell

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Speaker 1: me all the time, Brett, we just want you to

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Speaker 1: be you, do what you love, and will support you.

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Speaker 1: It's really been incredible. Well, you can't ask for better

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Speaker 1: advice than that. Brett. Thanks for coming in and telling

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Speaker 1: me all about what you're doing. You've got one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite shows and I can't thank you enough for

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to pick your brain and hear more about

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Speaker 1: what you do. Thank you and thanks for having me.

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