WEBVTT - Mean Mama

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Can't beleeve Reckless, the production of iHeart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and the Black Effects. And just like that, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>with yet another carefully reckless episode, which you girl, Jess

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<v Speaker 1>hilarious This sweek, Taylor is in here with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Say hi to Taylor, y'all says Hi, Taylor? Hi nice?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry she beck y'all?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, but I'm gonna read this time, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna help me fix the mess. All right, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're gonna jump straight into it. What's good, Jess?

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<v Speaker 1>I need your opinion on something. Well, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know if I'm right or wrong for this. So me

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<v Speaker 1>and my best friend have been best friends for about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty out of twenty two years of our life.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're twenty two. You met your best friend

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<v Speaker 2>at two, but do you remember that? Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>Bet?

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<v Speaker 1>Just being line of me like a motherfucker. It's all right,

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<v Speaker 1>g It's all good. It's a good which means we

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<v Speaker 1>are super close. We grew up in two different households.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's mine's is not a word. Mine was more family

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<v Speaker 1>oriented and hers was more strict and discombobulated.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, but it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Growing up, her mom didn't really let her go anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and was also hard on her. I never understood why

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<v Speaker 1>my girl always had great grades. She's a great person,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one ever really had problems out of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mom used to talk about the way she dressed

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<v Speaker 1>and just belittled her in ways that wasn't too recognizable

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<v Speaker 1>until we got older. Even though our senior year graduation day,

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<v Speaker 1>her mother made her cry so bad because she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to take a picture with her m She said

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<v Speaker 1>she looked like she was about to sell some ass dumn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, and she actually looked really nice. Her

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<v Speaker 1>mother also sat in front of so many people. I

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<v Speaker 1>was so embarrassed for her. Just what the fuck she's said?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh she's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Her mother also said that in front of a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of people, So she was just embarrassed.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got you. I got you.

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<v Speaker 1>A week after she decided to move out, which I

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<v Speaker 1>helped her move into her new place just to get

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<v Speaker 1>a peace of mind. She always looked up to her mom,

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<v Speaker 1>so it how what the fuck how you look up

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<v Speaker 1>to a bitch like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Damn she got a mother like, uh, what's the lady? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, precious, And Carrie, I was going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>movie carrying shit, but yeah, definitely should. She always looked

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<v Speaker 1>up to her mom, so it was kind of hard

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<v Speaker 1>to see for herself how she was breaking her down.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just a little backstory, so it can help

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<v Speaker 1>back up what I'm about to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, La Mayo. Okay, here you go.

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<v Speaker 1>So now two years later, Bestie just bought her new home.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course I knew about it, but she wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>tell her mom at some surprising news.

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<v Speaker 2>I already knew how that was about to go.

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<v Speaker 1>So Bessie and I just came back from lunch and

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<v Speaker 1>went to pick her mom up so we can show

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<v Speaker 1>her the new place.

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<v Speaker 2>Child. As soon as we pull up, she's like, who

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<v Speaker 2>else is this? This is yours?

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<v Speaker 1>Bessie was so excited, like, yes, Ma, I gotta show

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<v Speaker 1>you the inside. Her mom gonna ask her who on

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<v Speaker 1>the lease and why why you need a house?

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<v Speaker 2>So big girl. I just went back and sat in

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<v Speaker 2>the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, y'all, who you went back to the car minded

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<v Speaker 1>my business?

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<v Speaker 2>Because like, what, why?

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<v Speaker 1>What does it matter? Just be happy for your daughter. Damn, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely get it. But anyways, once she was done

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<v Speaker 1>showing her the house, which was an amazingly fast tour.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, first of all, she's twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>House and right and you and you're not even right

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<v Speaker 1>about that, like you're not even looking at like your.

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<v Speaker 2>Daughter grew up fast. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like damn accomplishments early. So I know people in

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<v Speaker 1>their thirties and forties and even fifties who ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>their own house, and that's fucked up that she would

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<v Speaker 1>like overshadow all of that with questions and interrogating them.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So after she showed her a fast tour,

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<v Speaker 1>she took her home. The drive was so awkward. Bessie

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<v Speaker 1>would try to engage with her mom and she would

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<v Speaker 1>just respond so short and nonchalant. As Bestie and I

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<v Speaker 1>drove home, I finally decided that it was time time

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<v Speaker 1>to tell her about how I felt about her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>To sum it up, I called her mom a hater

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<v Speaker 1>and said that she's been hating on her for years.

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<v Speaker 1>And Jess, when I say she went off on me,

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<v Speaker 1>she did. I don't know if she's just being in

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<v Speaker 1>the now or what it is, but it's definitely the

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't trying to overstep, but that's exactly what I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like after telling her and whole time I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to look out for her. She dropped me off

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<v Speaker 1>and we haven't spoken since. Damn, it's been a week.

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<v Speaker 1>We usually talk every day, and I just feel so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I texted her a few times and now she's giving

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<v Speaker 1>me the cold shoulder, like I said some crazy shit

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<v Speaker 1>to her, when in all honesty, my intentions were genuine.

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<v Speaker 1>I need your honest opinion and feedback. What do you think?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think I was wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>First? And for almost No, I don't think you were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all have been best.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, she was damned too, and that's crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>you remember that. But I don't think that you were wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen something like this before. But look, Tayl, I

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<v Speaker 1>got this new thing I do where somebody has written

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<v Speaker 1>me a story that I've never seen before, like because

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<v Speaker 1>you know people write similar stories all the time, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but I got to saying we got one. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>literally like where we at. I call this an exclusive story,

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<v Speaker 1>right because we've never heard anything like this before. On

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<v Speaker 1>jes fix my mess again? Like I said, I've known

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<v Speaker 1>people that has gone through this, and then we've even

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<v Speaker 1>seen movies like this.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen Precious. We've seen Carrie, we've seen other movies,

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<v Speaker 2>so she knew though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but you know, she still loved

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<v Speaker 1>her mother, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, she know

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<v Speaker 1>my mom wasn't good. Yeah, And you know what the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between Precious and that girl. Precious didn't go off

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<v Speaker 1>on nobody that told her that she didn't need to

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<v Speaker 1>be with her mother, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that part is.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up, I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 1>That part was about. But this is what I do think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that your friend's mom is jealous of her. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it could be one of two things, because I've seen this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, I've seen this. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be that she hates the dad because sometimes people have kids,

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<v Speaker 1>Women have kids by men before getting to know them,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they realize that they don't want the kid,

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<v Speaker 1>but the kid is already here. You know, something happens

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<v Speaker 1>and you have this constant reminder of the person that

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<v Speaker 1>just took you through hell, the person that she don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know why you was pregnant by, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when they look like the motherfucker, it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>while I understand that it's wrong. It's very wrong because

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<v Speaker 1>one the kid didn't next to be here, and you

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<v Speaker 1>willingly had the kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You get what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because something happened with the father does not mean

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<v Speaker 1>that that falls on the child. You know, so you

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<v Speaker 1>can't treat the child away because of who you conceived with.

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed that happens a lot. Like like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know people. And then the second thing, her childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>the mom's childhood. She could be projecting what her mom

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<v Speaker 1>did to her. You understand what I'm saying now, Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it goes different ways. Sometimes people get treated like shit

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<v Speaker 1>when they're younger, so all they want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>be good parents.

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<v Speaker 2>To their kids.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why most a lot of those people they want

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<v Speaker 1>families so they can give the family. They can give

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<v Speaker 1>their kids what they didn't have growing up. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, Like I do see it like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But sometimes your trauma can make you the very person

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<v Speaker 1>that you despise, you know what I'm saying. And and

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<v Speaker 1>you can actually yeah, basically just be like the person

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<v Speaker 1>that fucked you over. If you love me, you'll listen

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<v Speaker 1>to this commercial and then we'll be right back. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think either her mom didn't have a good upbringing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and this is just a generational thing, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and she's gonna have to break that cycle.

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<v Speaker 1>Your best friend, because she I still can't figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive part other than she loves he mother like

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<v Speaker 1>she really just like it's like she sees the good

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<v Speaker 1>in her and she really is hoping that it changes

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<v Speaker 1>because she says she looks up to her.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think I know someone actually not necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>like that, but know one that I don't know how listen, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>has certain stuff that her mom did to her. This

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<v Speaker 3>is and you can mom has her on trauma. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't deal with but she see again her mom's

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<v Speaker 3>not like that where she kind of just keeps critiquing

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<v Speaker 3>her and her mom just got issues whatever. But I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think she did anything wrong. But I think she

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<v Speaker 3>needs to face the truth of how her mom acts

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<v Speaker 3>towards her though, And that's being her best friend. She's

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<v Speaker 3>understand and she's just trying to keep it real with her.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, she's going to see things that she don't see.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and I think and what if she sees

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<v Speaker 1>it but she don't want to, Yeah, she don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to like she's in denial about it. It's like not

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say no, I mean like she's not

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<v Speaker 1>ready to open that can yet, you know what I mean, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, because like I said, she could still see

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<v Speaker 1>the good in her mom. Because m like even even

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<v Speaker 1>for Precious before Precious got fed up and she went

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<v Speaker 1>to that social worker And I forgot Mariy Caurry was

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<v Speaker 1>in that movie Mark Curry was gonna hot ass map.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen Mariah Carry look crazy like that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>why that's the only place that I can't believe Mariah

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<v Speaker 1>Carey agreed to look a hot ass mess like that

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<v Speaker 1>order play a social worker.

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<v Speaker 3>Well we get off topic, but because remember she did

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<v Speaker 3>MTD Cribs and even how she was yes, like damn.

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<v Speaker 1>Bit like we never seen her with a bad day,

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<v Speaker 1>so I know she probably like no, and this this

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<v Speaker 1>is just the rollttle bitch, Like you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I have never seen Mariah Carry. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot. I forgot him. Like until you watch the Ship,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh shit, Paula Patton was the teacher and

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh shit, Maroc Curry did look like she

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<v Speaker 1>was on crack, you know what I'm saying. But it

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. You know, she's a very beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>woman and that's what it is. But and it's her

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<v Speaker 1>holiday right now, so shout out to Mariah Carey. But

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<v Speaker 1>even before Precious got set up with her mother, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like she right before she threw

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<v Speaker 1>that TV or piano or something she threw out the

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<v Speaker 1>window at her as a TV or something, right like

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<v Speaker 1>she Pruscianus was still trying to like help her mother

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<v Speaker 1>and shit and give her the benefit of the doubt

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<v Speaker 1>and Precious mom.

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<v Speaker 2>And her her mom to like her. Yeah, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>her like yeah, neediness.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm you do this so like me, yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's your mom and you only get one, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. And it's like, yo, what am I

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<v Speaker 1>doing wrong? So kids start to blame themselves. The child

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<v Speaker 1>starts to blame themselves if they don't get help early

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<v Speaker 1>to realize this is not normal, you know, because if

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<v Speaker 1>you grow up like that, then this is normal to you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is your normal. Yeah, thinking about like, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>normal to her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because she's like like she she acts like well, again,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if this is how her friend acts,

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<v Speaker 3>but like acts like okay if I do that, like

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<v Speaker 3>she's yeah yeah. It's like she's trying to get her

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<v Speaker 3>approval by everyone though, based off I think her.

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<v Speaker 1>Friend yeah yeah, because like her wanting to take her

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<v Speaker 1>mom so bad to show that house off to her, like, yo, mom,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what I accomplished, and and she knows her mom.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if she thought her mom would react

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<v Speaker 2>like that. I just think that she was.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, maybe if I should her this house,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna make her love me, This is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make her acknowledge me.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna make you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe she's been spending her whole life trying to

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<v Speaker 1>prove herself because this is the normal that she's you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But I why don't she never talk to her She

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<v Speaker 3>never talked to her friend about that though, Like they

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<v Speaker 3>as best friends, y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I said, if y'all have been best friend

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<v Speaker 1>since too, why was she so defensive? I could see

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<v Speaker 1>if y'all just met, or y'all just been friends for

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<v Speaker 1>a few years, or you know, because then it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a thing like you don't know my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, y'all was damn near like y'all were toddlers.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like you've known this lady, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know. My best friend's mom is like

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<v Speaker 1>my mom too, you know. And my mom is like

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend's mom. And we haven't even been friends

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<v Speaker 1>best friends since we were too you know, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure why that is. But like I said, if

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<v Speaker 1>this is her normal, then maybe it's gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of like a lot more of this shit to

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<v Speaker 1>happen for her to realize it's wrong. Because again, she's

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<v Speaker 1>still only twenty two. I think she'll realize once she

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<v Speaker 1>is where's her dad? Like I need to know, like

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<v Speaker 1>who's her dad? Where's the dad? Give me some more

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<v Speaker 1>of the backs, or I want you to update me

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<v Speaker 1>on this friend, because I could figure it out more

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<v Speaker 1>if I knew the history with both parents, Like has

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<v Speaker 1>she ever opened up to you about her father? Has

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<v Speaker 1>she ever opened up to you about being treated a

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<v Speaker 1>certain way as a kid when y'all were friends but

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't live with her, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Who knows? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>She could have been getting beaten every night, or she

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<v Speaker 1>could have been getting starved. The mother could have been

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<v Speaker 1>like telling them you're fat or whatever, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like just could have been. This could have started early on,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes it her normal life, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 1>how does your best friend look at you and your mother?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Like, does she ever has

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<v Speaker 1>there ever been a moment where she well you even

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<v Speaker 1>saw her wishing that this could be her household, like

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<v Speaker 1>when you're around your parents and shit like that, And

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<v Speaker 1>has she ever been around that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, understand what I'm saying. We do all mother

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<v Speaker 2>even let out the house.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, like I like, uh, it's something there

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<v Speaker 1>that I need more context for to give full advice

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<v Speaker 1>on this shit, because I'm not gonna say she she

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<v Speaker 1>a little too old, but she old enough to notice

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<v Speaker 1>it's not right. Yeah, you know, you know, unless she's

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<v Speaker 1>just a diehard I got one mom, and I wonders, Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that as well, Like, yeah, was she the only one

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<v Speaker 1>treated like this? Was she the you know, the well

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<v Speaker 1>what child they always say is treated like the outcast?

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<v Speaker 2>The middle child?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Is she a middle child? Is she an only child?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, which wouldn't matter if the

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<v Speaker 1>mom is fucked up anyway, because you know, because then

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<v Speaker 1>all the kids get treated fucked up. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, unless it's the dad thing. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I just need more contacts on it. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that you were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think that you should reach out though this

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<v Speaker 1>this is your best friend since too.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she did though she said you gave her

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<v Speaker 2>the shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she did all the ship. She haven't talked to

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<v Speaker 1>her in a week. She said, it's been a week

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<v Speaker 1>and then let.

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<v Speaker 2>Me saying she reached out and she's just not got it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me say, hold on, let me sing, let me sing,

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<v Speaker 2>me scroll on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, she dropped me off and that we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't spoken since it's been a week. We usually talk

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<v Speaker 1>every day, and I just feel so bad. I texted

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<v Speaker 1>her a few times and now she's giving me the

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<v Speaker 1>cold shoulder, like I really said some crazy shit to her. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. I totally understand. Also, what nationality is she?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? Is she black? White? Other?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is she? Because not that that really really matters.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, I don't know. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>the defensiveness. It seems like that would come out of

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<v Speaker 1>a white person before a black person. Hell yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>went to a predominantly white high school and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my friends who had fucked up parents,

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<v Speaker 1>and they see nothing wrong with that. Up. Hold up,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this shit getting good, but listen to just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple seconds of a commercial. If you love me,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll listen. They see nothing wrong with their parents. Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like listen, this is crazy. I remember in high school

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<v Speaker 1>I was like one of them. When I say predominantly white,

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<v Speaker 1>by high school was predominantly white. I went to Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to Dallastown. I went to school in Pennsylvania, York,

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<v Speaker 1>right outside of York. It was this county called Dallastown

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<v Speaker 1>and I went to Dallastown Area High School and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a middle high school or whatever, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge campus. It looked like a fucking college. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was huge, like a university. And of course I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. When I first got there, I think

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<v Speaker 1>I was like one of like sixteen black kids, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was about from nine to eleven thousand kids in the.

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<v Speaker 2>School, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was different other races or whatever, foreign exchange

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, but it was predominantly Caucasian, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had friends, and once I got to be popular and

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<v Speaker 1>shit and all of that type of stuff, I developed

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<v Speaker 1>a strong friend group up there, and we would hook

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<v Speaker 1>school and go to my house and shit when it

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<v Speaker 1>was time to hook school, not when it was time,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, like we hated Thursdays, yo, because that was

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<v Speaker 1>science day and shit like, you know, So we would

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<v Speaker 1>hook on Thursdays. And I lived closer closest to the school,

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<v Speaker 1>so we would go right to my house. My mom

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<v Speaker 1>worked in Baltimore, so I knew when she was coming home,

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<v Speaker 1>and it would take her a while to get home.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, oh, we can just look at my house.

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<v Speaker 1>Were smoking in the backyard and my mom had came home.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't get in trouble the first time I got caught,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. She was just like, you don't need to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. She had like a nice, stern talk with

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<v Speaker 1>me in front of my friends, and she kissed me

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<v Speaker 1>on my forehead and she was like, I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't fucking play with me, little girl.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing. I said, yes, ma'am, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So my friend. I remember her, her name was Morgan Talbert.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like, your mom just told you she loved you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, yeah, you know what I'm saying. She

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<v Speaker 1>was like that's crazy, is it crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>She was like interest like they they weren't affectionate with

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<v Speaker 1>their parents. Their parents weren't nurturing, they were just providing

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<v Speaker 1>for them. They were just they would give them money.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't even see their kids half the time. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of their parents traveled for work, so they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even see their parents a lot, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I had other friends that would look at

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<v Speaker 1>me like, ooh, you see your parents every day, like

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<v Speaker 1>you like your parents like talk to you all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that doesn't get on your fucking nerves. I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>they love me the fuck.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's interesting because the white people I went to,

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<v Speaker 4>I went to the white people that went to my school,

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<v Speaker 4>at least with my white friends, like the only thing

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<v Speaker 4>it was the stereotype.

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<v Speaker 2>Though. I remember one.

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<v Speaker 3>Time my friend Emily, she.

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<v Speaker 2>She I don't know, her mom almost mad at her

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<v Speaker 2>about something.

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<v Speaker 3>And we didn't give a fucking damn like and like

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<v Speaker 3>she was just like whatever, Mom, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Just like fuck you outside she didn't they fuck you,

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<v Speaker 1>but she was like.

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<v Speaker 3>Back talking to her. I remember stepping back like I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't not Yeah with her, she goes, maybe you should, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but her mom did not.

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<v Speaker 2>She was not the one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, And that's funny. One of my friend's

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<v Speaker 1>moms was like that, and rest in peace to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>She actually took her own life. She was dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>some mental issues. Yeah, but her name was, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>a Katie or Yvonne, I don't know, but either way, Alex,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't I'm like the fuck, yeah, Alex, that was

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<v Speaker 1>the name. She took her own fucking life, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was dealing with that. But she was a

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<v Speaker 1>mother that did not play. She she had two kids,

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<v Speaker 1>and her daughter gave her. Her daughter was the youngest,

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<v Speaker 1>and her daughter gave her the most trouble. She will

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<v Speaker 1>whoop that little girl ass, like she will whoop her ass.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was the first time I ever seen or

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<v Speaker 1>even heard of a white one of my white friends

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<v Speaker 1>being chastised physically being disciplined.

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<v Speaker 2>But my first time she her mom was like like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, yeah her, that's the crazy thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So I said that to say sharing my experience about

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<v Speaker 1>being in a predominantly white high school, because this speaks

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<v Speaker 1>to this girl's story, Like I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 1>she was white, because but even if.

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<v Speaker 3>She was, how you explained it, Like they just weren't there,

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<v Speaker 3>but their parents weren't treating.

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<v Speaker 2>Them, weren't treating them.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I think they'll be happy if she got

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sober. She got a house at twenty two, a

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<v Speaker 3>house at twenty two?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you do for her job? I know I

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<v Speaker 2>need to know my best friend need to tell me.

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<v Speaker 1>And shit, you know, I really want you to keep

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<v Speaker 1>reaching out to her though, because honestly, maybe she's not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>You just yeah, you never know, and I think that

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<v Speaker 1>should be something that you should say. You should suggest

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<v Speaker 1>that to her to go to therapy. I man, of shit,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my thought. I went all around the Marigo

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<v Speaker 1>bush and shit, just to let you know why I

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<v Speaker 1>say it and told you I.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to a predominant white high school. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>thought there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm gonna get into it pribabe next week or

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<v Speaker 1>some because I forgot you. I did the same shit

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<v Speaker 1>on the episode last week. But it is all right, man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you should suggest therapy to her, some

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<v Speaker 1>type of family therapy. I doubt that her mom will go,

0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.920
<v Speaker 1>but she needs to go. It's still family therapy because

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to go in there and spill about her mom,

0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and maybe her hailing can motivate her mom to go.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, Because those type of people

0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you have to talk to a certain way, like her mother,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be a healed person to get to

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<v Speaker 1>show another person the mirror of themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Yo, what you're doing is fucked up. You're wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're projecting on me.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been projecting on me my whole life, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just now seeing as an adult, as a young adult,

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<v Speaker 1>but still an adult. Nevertheless, like this, you're not a

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<v Speaker 1>good mom to me, and I love you. I look

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<v Speaker 1>up to you, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like why what did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I need her to have these conversations with her mom,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do also want her to seek out therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I want her to have these conversations with her

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<v Speaker 1>mom because I doubt if she got mad at you

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<v Speaker 1>like that, she's ever questioned her mom about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, because if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know your mom like that, I think the first person

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go show my house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, or she just also is in a sense wanted,

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<v Speaker 3>like she gotta protect her family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah maybe yeah, yeah in that sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but definitely keep me updated, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that's your friend. You know, I know you

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<v Speaker 1>missed her and everything. So it's okay, you ain't. You

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<v Speaker 1>ain't losing nothing. Keep hitting her. Yeah, she's giving you

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<v Speaker 1>the coach show to pop up on her. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>go see her. That's your best sied. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Best friends they do that, they do that sometimes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you got to go pull up on a bitch.

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<v Speaker 2>What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, come on you you got mad at me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just looking out for your best interests.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I've watched your mom basically try to destroy who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost your whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>Like remember graduation, bitch, when you was crying fund all

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<v Speaker 1>those fucking people because your mom didn't want to take

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<v Speaker 1>a picture with you. She kept saying that she was

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<v Speaker 1>dressed like a uchi. Yeah, like no, like, tell her

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<v Speaker 1>that you've always been there. Just always just be there

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<v Speaker 1>if anything, even if she push you away, just be

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<v Speaker 1>there because she still needs somebody, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not the person who her mother is. She

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<v Speaker 1>needs her mother, but not the person who her mother

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<v Speaker 1>is right now. So the mother needs help too. But

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<v Speaker 1>she's a little too set in her ways and it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take a miracle to change who she is and

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<v Speaker 1>her age. So it is up to the best friend

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<v Speaker 1>to break that generational curse. So keep me updated, b

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<v Speaker 1>And just like that, we've come to yet the end

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<v Speaker 1>of another carefully reckless podcast. But your girl justcelarious and

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<v Speaker 1>my girl Taylor's here. Say thank you Taylor, and we

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<v Speaker 1>got one. Okay, it's the first assumption to follow directions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all right, now stay you welcome, Tailor, You're welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, that's what's up. She was about to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you welcome Tailor. All right. I love y'all. Y'all will

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