WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Dana Stidham Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. On Tuesday, July twenty fifth, nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen year old Dana Stidham went home to do some laundry.

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<v Speaker 1>She drove from where she was living in Centerton to

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<v Speaker 1>where her parents, Lawrence and Georgia, lived in Highwassee, Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>After she put her clothes in the wash cycle, she

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<v Speaker 1>headed out to run an errand for her dad. His

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<v Speaker 1>stomach was upset and he needed some medicine. She went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Phillips food store, which, by the way, is

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<v Speaker 1>now a Harp's grocery store, the one in Bella Vista.

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<v Speaker 1>She checked out at three seventeen PM. We know this

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<v Speaker 1>because the receipt was later found in her car, and

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<v Speaker 1>because the cashier and a lot of other people working

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<v Speaker 1>in the store confirmed that Dana was there that day.

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<v Speaker 1>Dana knew everyone because she had worked there for three

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<v Speaker 1>years in high school. We're going to talk about Dana's case,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the contradictory clues that have been explored

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<v Speaker 1>over the years, and we're also going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>other unsolved murders in the Ozarks. I'm noticing as I

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<v Speaker 1>compile these cases that there are a lot of unsolved

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<v Speaker 1>murders that happened along Arkansas Highway seventy one. We're also

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<v Speaker 1>going to explore all the theories that have come up

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<v Speaker 1>over the years and try to answer the question, was

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<v Speaker 1>this someone Dana knew or a stranger? Could it have

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<v Speaker 1>been a serial killer? I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past

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<v Speaker 1>five years of making my true crime podcast, Helen Gone,

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<v Speaker 1>I have learned that there is no such thing as

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<v Speaker 1>a small town where murder never happens. I have received

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of messages from people all around the country asking

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<v Speaker 1>for help with an unsolved murder that's affected them, their families,

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<v Speaker 1>and their communities. If you have a case you'd like

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<v Speaker 1>me and my team to look into, you can reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to us at our Helen Gone Murder Line at

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<v Speaker 1>six seven eight seven four four six one four five

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<v Speaker 1>At six seven eight seven four four six one four five.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Helen Gone Murder Line. So let's go back

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<v Speaker 1>to what we know. Back to the timeline. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the police report, which we got a copy of from

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<v Speaker 1>the Benton County Sheriff's Office, Dana left home at around

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<v Speaker 1>two forty five pm. She went to the Phillips food

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<v Speaker 1>store in Bella Vista. This would have taken her about

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes. When she left her parents' house that day,

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<v Speaker 1>she was wearing white shorts, a white top with red lettering,

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<v Speaker 1>and red sox with white tennis shoes. Dana got out

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<v Speaker 1>at the Phillips store and did her shopping. Now remember

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<v Speaker 1>this store was where she had had a high school job,

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<v Speaker 1>so people knew her there. Several people remembered talking to

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<v Speaker 1>her that day. She bought her dad's medicine, Alka Seltzer,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as some dishwashing soap and sugar. She checked

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<v Speaker 1>out at three seventeen PM, according to the timestamped receipt.

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<v Speaker 1>After that she walked out into the parking lot. She

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<v Speaker 1>talked to an older guy, who, by the way, has

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<v Speaker 1>not been identified publicly. Then a landscaper reportedly saw Dana

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<v Speaker 1>drive out of the parking lot, but told police they

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<v Speaker 1>did not know which way she turned. Dana never came

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<v Speaker 1>home that afternoon. Her brother Larry called the police at

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<v Speaker 1>nine to fifteen pm to report her missing. A bolow

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<v Speaker 1>was put out right afterward. The next morning, July twenty sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>at around six thirty am, a sergeant from the Benton

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<v Speaker 1>County Sheriff's Office saw a parked car on the side

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<v Speaker 1>of US Highway seventy one. We talked about this last week.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned out this was Dana's nineteen eighty four gray

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<v Speaker 1>Dodge Omney. The car was found near Wellington Road. The

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<v Speaker 1>keys were stealing the ignition. The driver's side window was

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<v Speaker 1>halfway down and the left rear tire was flat. Now

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people have pointed to that half down

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<v Speaker 1>window as potential evidence that Dana could have pulled over

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<v Speaker 1>and rolled down her window to talk to somebody, But

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<v Speaker 1>the tire was not totally flat, and Dana was only

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<v Speaker 1>four miles from home, which is why I find it

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<v Speaker 1>less likely that she would have pulled over for someone

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't know or caught a ride with a stranger,

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<v Speaker 1>because she could have driven on a half flat tire.

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<v Speaker 1>Or she could have turned around and gone back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Phillips parking lot. She knew a ton of people there.

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<v Speaker 1>She could have gotten a lot of people's help changing

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<v Speaker 1>that tire. There was no obvious sign of a struggle

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<v Speaker 1>inside the car, but the driver's seat was pushed back.

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<v Speaker 1>Dana was petitue only five foot two, but the seat

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<v Speaker 1>was adjusted for a much taller person. Dana's Denham purse

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<v Speaker 1>was missing. As we said before, there was a receipt

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<v Speaker 1>found inside the car for her groceries, but the groceries

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<v Speaker 1>themselves were gone. Days later, some of her clothing was

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<v Speaker 1>found scattered near the road. Then, on August fifth, searchers

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<v Speaker 1>discovered more of Dana's items, including her bank checks, her

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<v Speaker 1>driver's license, and several other items, a few miles north

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<v Speaker 1>of where the car was found. Then someone's pet dog

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<v Speaker 1>came home with Dana's wallet between its teeth. So the

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<v Speaker 1>first obvious question is where was the actual crime scene?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you have several potential areas where it could have been.

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<v Speaker 1>You have the area where the car was parked on

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<v Speaker 1>the southbound side of US highly seventy one. You have

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<v Speaker 1>the place where the bank checks and license were found,

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<v Speaker 1>and where the clothes were scattered. Was Dana abducted from

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<v Speaker 1>where her car was parked, or was the real crime

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<v Speaker 1>scene somewhere else. We're going to look at both of

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<v Speaker 1>these possibilities. Let's consider the possibility that she could have

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<v Speaker 1>been abducted. I did some digging and I found out

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more details about Dana's autopsy and her remains.

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<v Speaker 1>We mentioned that her remains were found in a creek bed.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some bones missing. The skeleton was only about

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent complete, and the missing bones included a very

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<v Speaker 1>important bone, Dana's sternum. That sternum was never found, and

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<v Speaker 1>without that bone, according to the medical examiner's report, authorities

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<v Speaker 1>could not figure out whether the nick that was on

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<v Speaker 1>her left shoulder blade was the fatal wound. The theory

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<v Speaker 1>that detectives had was that Dana had been stabbed in

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<v Speaker 1>the neck, but without the sternum, they said they could

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<v Speaker 1>not be sure. There was an article in the Springfield

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<v Speaker 1>Newsleader from February eighteenth to nineteen ninety one. The Springfield

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<v Speaker 1>Newsleader did a lot of research into unsolved killings in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ozarks, and they asked if some of these killings

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<v Speaker 1>could have been linked. The paper pointed out that if

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<v Speaker 1>there were links between some of these killings, especially back then,

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<v Speaker 1>these police departments might not have figured that out because,

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<v Speaker 1>as you may know from listening to this podcast and others,

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<v Speaker 1>agencies often don't share information. Even though the killings were

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the Ozarks region, different agencies had jurisdiction. Bodies

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<v Speaker 1>were found in different counties, some in Missouri, some in Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>so the newspaper did its own investigation into these unsolved deaths.

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<v Speaker 1>It found similarities in four cases. Side note this still

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<v Speaker 1>happens even today, with all the technology we have, you

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<v Speaker 1>still see so many cases where a body is found

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<v Speaker 1>in one county, but the person has gone missing in

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<v Speaker 1>another one, and there is such a lack of communication

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<v Speaker 1>even today. Back to Dana, the Springfield Leader mentions the

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<v Speaker 1>April nineteen eighty seven disappearance of a thirty one year

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<v Speaker 1>old woman named Deborah c Lewis. Deborah went missing from

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<v Speaker 1>her car near Springfield. Her body was found eight months

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<v Speaker 1>later in Newton County. Then in June of nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 1>there was another abduction a twenty four year old woman

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<v Speaker 1>named Kelly Anne Workman. She disappeared from a church parking

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<v Speaker 1>lot in Douglas County where she had been mowing the lawn.

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<v Speaker 1>Then in nineteen ninety there was a killing of a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who was known for many years as Jane Doe.

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<v Speaker 1>Her body was found in December of nineteen ninety one

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<v Speaker 1>in McDonald County. The fourth victim the newspaper mentioned was

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Stidham. The paper pointed out that all of the

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<v Speaker 1>victims had at least on the surface some similar injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>Detectives suspected that all these women had been strangled or

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<v Speaker 1>their throats had been cut. Police found evidence that some

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<v Speaker 1>of the victims were tied with some sort of twine.

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<v Speaker 1>Three of them were found near US Highway seventy one. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>there could have been a serial killer working US Highway

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<v Speaker 1>seventy one, and authorities might not have linked the cases

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<v Speaker 1>back then. The Springfield Leader pointed out that even though

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<v Speaker 1>Danis Didham's case and Debbie Lewis's case were only forty

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<v Speaker 1>five miles apart, the agencies who investigated may not have

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<v Speaker 1>compared notes because they were in different states. Now there

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<v Speaker 1>have been some suspects and leads in some of these cases.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to take a closer look at them. Debbie

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<v Speaker 1>Sue Lewis vanished on April twenty seventh, nineteen eighty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie had two jobs. She worked as a nurse for

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<v Speaker 1>the US Medical Center for Federal Prisoners. She also had

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<v Speaker 1>a second job at the Ozark Mountain Concessions. Debbie was

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<v Speaker 1>working the night she went missing at Ozark Concessions. She

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<v Speaker 1>clocked out at eleven oh five pm. Her yellow Volkswagen

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<v Speaker 1>convertible was found a few miles north of the Springfield

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<v Speaker 1>Branson National Airport. The lights were on, the motor was running,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of her stuff was inside the car, including

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<v Speaker 1>her money in her keys, but she was gone, and

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<v Speaker 1>the way the car was left it looked like someone

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<v Speaker 1>had just grabbed her. But again detectives had no real leads.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight months later, a family looking for a Christmas tree

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<v Speaker 1>was out in rural Newton County when they found Debbie's body.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some clues. Like in Dana's case, there was

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<v Speaker 1>very little soft tissue and investigators had trouble determining the

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<v Speaker 1>cause of death. Also, you may remember from last week

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<v Speaker 1>that in Dana's case, investigators found some twine near the

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<v Speaker 1>body with some knots in it. It was the same store.

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<v Speaker 1>In Debbie's case, investigators found a knotted cord near the

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<v Speaker 1>bones of her hands. So the Springfield Newsleader the newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>did another story in twenty fifteen. They interviewed the former prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>and the prosecutor stated they believed Debbie had been kidnapped,

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<v Speaker 1>bound and murdered. That was the exact phrase they use.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, like deja vus with Dana's case, because of

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<v Speaker 1>the lack of tissue found with the body, they could

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<v Speaker 1>not figure out how she died. Both cause and manner

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<v Speaker 1>of death were undetermined, but they did have a potential

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<v Speaker 1>person of interest in Debbie's case, a guy named Gerald

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<v Speaker 1>Carnahan who apparently dated her at one point. Now, Gerald

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<v Speaker 1>Carnahan was from a wealthy family. He was a local businessman,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had a history of disturbing behavior. Police suspected him,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't have enough evidence to prosecute, so the

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<v Speaker 1>case went cold. Both of Debbie's parents passed away, never

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what really happened to her. Then, in twenty ten,

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<v Speaker 1>the name Gerald Carnahan came up again. He was convicted

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<v Speaker 1>of another rape and murder that happened two years before

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<v Speaker 1>Debbie disappeared. Jackie John's, a twenty year old former beauty

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<v Speaker 1>queen from Nixa, Arkansas, who worked in a local cafe,

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<v Speaker 1>went to seven eleven one night and then disappeared without

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<v Speaker 1>a trace on June eighteenth, nineteen eighty five, in Nixa, Arkansas,

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<v Speaker 1>about sixty five miles from where Danis Sidham's body was found,

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<v Speaker 1>also by the way along US Highway seventy one, Jackie

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<v Speaker 1>left work she stopped at a local seven eleven at

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<v Speaker 1>approximately eleven PM. After that, she disappeared. The next day,

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<v Speaker 1>a delivery driver saw her vehicle. It was very distinctive.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a black Camaro with personalized license plates that

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<v Speaker 1>had Jackie's name on them. They found the car on

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<v Speaker 1>the side of the road off of US one sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>The car looked like it had been abandoned. Similar to

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<v Speaker 1>Dana's case and to Debbie's, the door or was open.

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<v Speaker 1>Her purse and her clothes and her things were all there.

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<v Speaker 1>But there was one difference because this time there was

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of a struggle. There was blood in that car,

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<v Speaker 1>and unlike in Debbian Dana's cases, Jackie's remains were found quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Her body was dumped in Lake Springfield. Two local fishermen

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<v Speaker 1>found the body four days after Jackie disappeared. So because

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<v Speaker 1>of that, investigators were able to find more information about

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<v Speaker 1>what might have killed Jackie. Forensic testing showed she had

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<v Speaker 1>blunt forest trauma. She had been hitting the head multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>This time there was proof Jackie had been sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigators found traces of seamen and they had a good lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone had spotted another very distinctive car near the seven

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<v Speaker 1>eleven at around the time Jackie was there a nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixties white and blue Chevrolet truck. Now this was a

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<v Speaker 1>small town, so everyone knew that vehicle. The guy who

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<v Speaker 1>who owned it was Gerald Carnahan. Gerald Carnahan said he

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<v Speaker 1>had an alibi, but law enforcement very quickly found some

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<v Speaker 1>holes in it. Gerald said he had dinner with his

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<v Speaker 1>stepdaughter and got home at around ten forty five PM,

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<v Speaker 1>but Jackie was killed later than that, so the alibi

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<v Speaker 1>was always a little bit shaky. Police continued to be

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<v Speaker 1>very suspicious of Gerald Carnahan. There was an Oxygen show

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<v Speaker 1>called in Ice Cold Blood about this case. According to

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<v Speaker 1>that program, police figured out early on there were connections

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<v Speaker 1>between Gerald and Jackie. She had done some work for

0:14:38.605 --> 0:14:40.845
<v Speaker 1>Gerald in the past and told a friend that he

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<v Speaker 1>made her uncomfortable. She thought he was a creep. Law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement had their suspicions, but they couldn't make a case,

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<v Speaker 1>so nothing happened. Also, it did not help that Gerald's

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<v Speaker 1>family had money, so he was able to hire good lawyers,

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<v Speaker 1>so he wasn't arrested. He went out of town. He

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<v Speaker 1>lived his life and apparently kept assaulting women. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety three, Gerald Carnahan struck again. He tried to kidnap

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<v Speaker 1>a woman from a road in Springfield. She escaped and

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<v Speaker 1>he was arrested. This time he got caught pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>red handed, but he only got two years in prison

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<v Speaker 1>for that attempt at kidnapping. Side note, he burned down

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<v Speaker 1>a building, so he ended up getting convicted of arson

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<v Speaker 1>also in nineteen ninety three, and for the arson charge

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<v Speaker 1>he got four years, but for the attempted kidnapping he

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<v Speaker 1>got two years. That absolutely blows my mind. In two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and six, investigators took another look at Jackie's case.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked at the seamen sample because by now there

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<v Speaker 1>was some new technology that didn't exist when she was murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>They were able to determine that the seaman was a

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<v Speaker 1>match to Gerald Carnahan. An undercover state trooper followed him

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<v Speaker 1>and apparently got his DNA off a cup of coffee

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<v Speaker 1>that Gerald threw into the trash while he was visiting

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<v Speaker 1>an auto dealership. Arrested and convicted in twenty ten, he

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<v Speaker 1>was sentenced to life in prison without parole. So could

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<v Speaker 1>Gerald have been around when Dana disappeared. It's possible that

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Stidham was abducted from her car that day. But

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<v Speaker 1>I want to back up, what if she wasn't abducted.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to take a look at some other scenarios

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<v Speaker 1>because so far, a lot of the theories have focused

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<v Speaker 1>on someone following her out, someone forcing her to pull

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<v Speaker 1>off the road, or somehow disabling her tire. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to look at some alternative scenarios, because if

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<v Speaker 1>we're looking at comparable cases, this assumes Dana's abandoned car

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<v Speaker 1>was the primary crime scene. We're assuming she pulled over

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<v Speaker 1>there to park, whether because she felt that her tire

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<v Speaker 1>was low, or because someone maybe signaled her or pulled

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<v Speaker 1>her over as a ruse. Let's come back to what

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<v Speaker 1>we know about the car. Remember, Dana was only five

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<v Speaker 1>foot two, very petite, around one hundred pounds. When instigators

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<v Speaker 1>got to the car, they found no signs of foul play.

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<v Speaker 1>But and this is the clue that really throws me off,

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to push the seat back really far back,

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<v Speaker 1>like a much taller person was driving. So if that's

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<v Speaker 1>the case, that leads me to believe someone else drove

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<v Speaker 1>the car there and parked it and chose to park

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<v Speaker 1>it in that spot, which means the crime scene was staged.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not the real crime scene. The more I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this case, the more I think that's a distinct

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<v Speaker 1>possibility because again, I know there was an abandoned car,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of these other cases that involved abandoned cars, kidnapping,

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<v Speaker 1>and abductions, they all happened at night. Dana's was in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the day. It's of course possible that

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<v Speaker 1>she was kidnapped, but in my mind this makes it

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<v Speaker 1>much more unlikely. So if Dana didn't park there, if

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<v Speaker 1>her killer parked the car there, we have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out where the real crime scene was. The one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we have is the exact time when she went

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<v Speaker 1>to the Phillips food store. That's why keep bringing it

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<v Speaker 1>up over and over. She talked to people there. I

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<v Speaker 1>also found out more about what Dana's plans were after

0:18:19.485 --> 0:18:23.285
<v Speaker 1>she did her laundry. It turns out after buying the

0:18:23.325 --> 0:18:26.805
<v Speaker 1>medicine for her father, Dana Stidham had a date that night.

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<v Speaker 1>Police spoke to the guy she was supposed to go

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<v Speaker 1>out with. He and his family both said she never

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<v Speaker 1>showed up that night. He was very cooperative with investigators,

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<v Speaker 1>so to me, even though we have seen some reports

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<v Speaker 1>that Dana was spotted out at a local party spot

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<v Speaker 1>that night. I find those hard to believe. It's reasonable

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<v Speaker 1>to assume she would have wanted to get home, give

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<v Speaker 1>her dad his medicine which he needed, get her laundry,

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<v Speaker 1>and get ready for her date. But what if she

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<v Speaker 1>drove somewhere else after she left that parking lot. What

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<v Speaker 1>if she made another stop? What if she went to

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<v Speaker 1>visit someone who no one knows about. Which brings me

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<v Speaker 1>back to people's alibis not to say that any of

0:19:10.085 --> 0:19:12.925
<v Speaker 1>these people did anything wrong, but as an investigator with

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<v Speaker 1>an unsolved case, we always have to go back to

0:19:15.445 --> 0:19:18.045
<v Speaker 1>the timeline. One of the biggest things we do is

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<v Speaker 1>look at everyone's alibi and try to find any potential

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<v Speaker 1>areas where we can explore further where was everyone on

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<v Speaker 1>the day and at the time when Danny went missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Police interviewed Danny Daney's ex boyfriend, who lived in Bentonville.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the police report, he had a job, but

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<v Speaker 1>on that day he called in sick. Then he drove

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<v Speaker 1>to his girlfriend's house in Bella Vista and stayed there

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<v Speaker 1>until round five pm. He had a brother who also

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Bella Vista. He told police that he drove

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<v Speaker 1>to his brother's house next, but Danny's brother apparently wasn't home,

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<v Speaker 1>So at that point, Danny said he drove to another

0:19:54.645 --> 0:19:58.005
<v Speaker 1>friend's house, but that friend was also not home. Then

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<v Speaker 1>Danny said he drove back to his own house in Bentonville.

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<v Speaker 1>A friend of Danny's, according to the police report, visited

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<v Speaker 1>him in Bentonville at around ten pm that night. So

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<v Speaker 1>what that means, if that's all true, is that from

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<v Speaker 1>around five pm to ten pm, there could potentially be

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<v Speaker 1>some missing time. We talked about another man, someone Dana

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<v Speaker 1>knew from high school, Mike McMillan. We know that, according

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<v Speaker 1>to Dana's family, Mike had a crush on Dana, but

0:20:26.525 --> 0:20:30.205
<v Speaker 1>his feelings for Dana were apparently not reciprocated. We know

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<v Speaker 1>that Dana was supposedly avoiding him. His parents owned a

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<v Speaker 1>convenience store in Haiwassee that was closer to Dana's house

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<v Speaker 1>than the ones she shopped at the day she disappeared,

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<v Speaker 1>but her parents told police that because Dana wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid Mike, she drove a few extra miles to the

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<v Speaker 1>Phillip store. Police were definitely suspicious of Mike. There was

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<v Speaker 1>an article in two thousand and seven talking about the case.

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<v Speaker 1>The newspaper interviewed Detective Sidareac, one of the lead detectives

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<v Speaker 1>on the case. He said police basically knew who did it.

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<v Speaker 1>The paper described a spurned suitor who Dana declined today

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<v Speaker 1>clearly they were talking about Mike, and it seems as

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<v Speaker 1>though reading between the lines, police were suspicious of Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>largely because of Mike's weird behavior, the fact that Mike

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<v Speaker 1>joined the Navy after he supposedly delayed for months right

0:21:20.685 --> 0:21:25.005
<v Speaker 1>after Dana died. Then he came back. He missed her funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he came back to town, and according to

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<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend he had at the time, would go to

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<v Speaker 1>Dana's grave and talk to her late at night. He

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<v Speaker 1>was also seen driving around Bella Vista in the early

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<v Speaker 1>morning hours on the day of Dana's disappearance. Police believe

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<v Speaker 1>that Dana's car was moved in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 1>So again we have a person who doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>rock solid alibi. Investigators followed other leads. They got all

0:21:50.245 --> 0:21:52.885
<v Speaker 1>kinds of tips. A lot of people were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Newborn Lane near Highways three forty ninety, where a lot

0:21:55.605 --> 0:21:58.725
<v Speaker 1>of people would get together to party, but again. Dana

0:21:58.805 --> 0:22:01.725
<v Speaker 1>was getting medicine for her dad. Her family said she

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<v Speaker 1>planned to go right back home, so her showing up

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<v Speaker 1>at a park without dropping off her dad's Alga Seltzer

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<v Speaker 1>really doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Police

0:22:10.645 --> 0:22:15.445
<v Speaker 1>remained focused on Mike McMillan. Apparently, Mike told investigators he

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<v Speaker 1>was with a girl at the time when Dana went missing,

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<v Speaker 1>but then detectives talked to the woman. She said she

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't seen him that day, so reportedly he gave them

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<v Speaker 1>another name. Then that woman said she was with him,

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<v Speaker 1>but then later apparently told detectives she wasn't actually with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Police questioned the guys whom Mike had served with in

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<v Speaker 1>the Navy. They talked to his family, they talked his friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't come up with anything. Mainly, they seemed

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious because of circumstantial reasons. Mike had this fixation on Dana.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he left town, then came back and stole her

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<v Speaker 1>gravestone marker. Detectives were unable to prove Dana had been

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<v Speaker 1>sexually assaulted, so it's very unlikely there's any usable DNA

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<v Speaker 1>in her case that could help lead to her killer.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen ninety eight, there was another newspaper article, another

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<v Speaker 1>interview of detective Mike Sedoriak, another interview where he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the case. He said he had a rock that

0:23:11.205 --> 0:23:14.045
<v Speaker 1>he had taken from Danis Didam's grave. He had it

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<v Speaker 1>on his desk. It was very clear he still felt

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<v Speaker 1>super strongly about solving the case. He seemed very frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>with the lack of progress. In that same article, the

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<v Speaker 1>paper talked about more unsolved murders in the area. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>when police hit a wall, they do look at other

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<v Speaker 1>murders in the area to see if they fall with pattern.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people have wondered could Dana have been

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<v Speaker 1>the victim of a serial killer? The paper pointed out

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<v Speaker 1>there were seven murders that were unsolved in that area,

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<v Speaker 1>including one from February of nineteen ninety seven, nicknamed the

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<v Speaker 1>Suitcase murder. Authorities found the body of a woman named

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<v Speaker 1>Sakoro Moran in a suitcase near p Ridge. Sometimes after

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<v Speaker 1>so much time has passed, it can seem hopeless. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like detectives and everyone out there in the true

0:24:04.165 --> 0:24:07.325
<v Speaker 1>crime world are kind of just beating their heads against

0:24:07.325 --> 0:24:10.085
<v Speaker 1>a wall. But I just want to remind everyone that

0:24:10.205 --> 0:24:13.765
<v Speaker 1>cases are solved all the time by tips that one

0:24:13.845 --> 0:24:17.285
<v Speaker 1>person out there who knows something and hears something that

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<v Speaker 1>makes them come forward. Remember when I talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>murder of Kelly Ann Workman, the twenty four year old

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<v Speaker 1>woman who was reported missing on June thirtieth, nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>She was mowing the lawn at Dogwood Cemetery in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of Pleasant Southern Baptist Church in Douglas County. In

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<v Speaker 1>February of twenty twenty four, police solved that case. Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>normally mowed the grass at night. When they found her

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<v Speaker 1>car at six fifteen PM, a lot of grass was

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<v Speaker 1>still uncut. The keys were in the ignition. Her body

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<v Speaker 1>was found eight days later in Christian County. She was

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<v Speaker 1>decomposed and authorities were unable to figure out her cause

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<v Speaker 1>of death. There was something else here that I found

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<v Speaker 1>kind of interesting. Kelly was fully clothed, so investigators formulated

0:25:05.565 --> 0:25:09.005
<v Speaker 1>the theory that rape had been the motive, but they

0:25:09.045 --> 0:25:11.725
<v Speaker 1>thought that Kelly, who was six foot one, might have

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<v Speaker 1>fought back against her attackers. Investigators believed she had been strangled.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure how they determined she was not sexually assaulted.

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<v Speaker 1>There seemed to be a lot of cases where law

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement determined that someone was not sexually assaulted just because

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<v Speaker 1>they were fully clothed. I don't know all the details here,

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<v Speaker 1>but when these men go to trial, I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get more information about this case. So now, in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, after all this time, police have made

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<v Speaker 1>three arrests. Two brothers, Bobby Banks and Leonard Banks, and

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<v Speaker 1>another accomplice named Wily Belt, have all been charged with

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<v Speaker 1>first degree murder, kidnapping, and rape. According to CNN, the prosecutor,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Weatherman said, quote, there was a person that came

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<v Speaker 1>forward after almost thirty years of holding this inside and

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<v Speaker 1>finally told us the last piece we needed to slide

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<v Speaker 1>it all together. End quote. Steve Pokin, a journalist for

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<v Speaker 1>the Springfield Daily Citizen, wrote about the case over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>He did a great story about how this witness ended

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<v Speaker 1>up coming forward. So the interesting thing is that two

0:26:20.405 --> 0:26:24.085
<v Speaker 1>of these guys, Leonard Banks and Wily Belt, have talked

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<v Speaker 1>to the media a lot over the years, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>sort of talked about how they were innocent, but also,

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, if you read between the lines, taunted

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<v Speaker 1>the media a little bit. They admitted that they saw

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly near the time she went missing. Leonard Banks told

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<v Speaker 1>a reporter from the Springfield News Leader that he said

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<v Speaker 1>he had killed Kelly, but that he was just kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>He made some kind of comment along the lines of,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm paraphrasing here, but if I said that, I must

0:26:52.525 --> 0:26:55.005
<v Speaker 1>have been wasted. So he seemed to be kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hinting he had something to do with it, but not

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<v Speaker 1>admitting it. We will have to see how this plays out.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, there's always someone out there who knows something.

0:27:06.445 --> 0:27:11.285
<v Speaker 1>I believe that Danis Didham's murder is solvable. If you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the mugshots of the three men who were

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<v Speaker 1>arrested in Kelly's case, they're all in their sixties. Their

0:27:17.685 --> 0:27:22.205
<v Speaker 1>mugshots look like someone's grandpa. But as I've said before,

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<v Speaker 1>investigating murders is the closest I'll ever get to time travel.

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<v Speaker 1>For the victim's family and for the entire community, they

0:27:30.085 --> 0:27:33.445
<v Speaker 1>are still reliving July twenty fifth, nineteen eighty nine, the

0:27:33.525 --> 0:27:38.525
<v Speaker 1>day when Danis Didham disappeared. Over and over. Dana's killer

0:27:38.725 --> 0:27:42.925
<v Speaker 1>may be still out there, but so is potentially the

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<v Speaker 1>person who has the information that could solve this case.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Townsend. This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen

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<v Speaker 1>Gone Murder Line is a production of School of Humans

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<v Speaker 1>and iHeart Podcasts. It's written and narrated by me Catherine

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<v Speaker 1>Townsend and produced by Gabby Watts and Miranda Hawkins. Music

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<v Speaker 1>contributed by Ben Salek. Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for

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<v Speaker 1>her research assistance. Noah camer mixed and scored this episode.

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