1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Jensen One, CEO of Nvidia, fresh off his keynote last 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: night on stage. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: Great to see you, Welcome to Las Vegas. Thank happy new. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Year, familiar territory. 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 3: Congratulations on your new baby. 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. 8 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: A lot's changed since we last spoke, actually, but if 9 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: the broad spectrum of what you announced last night, new graphics, cards, 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: new chips, actually technically in the automotive space, products and 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: services on the software side, which is the single most 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: important for in video's future. 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 3: They're all important. You know, it's hard, it's hard. It's hard. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 3: It's hard to pick your favorites. You know. 15 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 4: We announced three chips, We announced a brand new AI, 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 4: a world foundation model and first of its kind. And 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: we announced our work in three areas and robotics, right, 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,279 Speaker 4: and they're all important. And the thing of course, we 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 4: announced that a brand new Blackwell RTX and has a 20 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 4: new AI technology called neuro Neuroshaters, and we're combining artificial 21 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 4: intelligence and classical computer. 22 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: ArtX the new RTX. 23 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've become so accustomed to your story being dominant 24 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: in a market for high performance GPUs server X data centers. 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 2: This is going back to your roots. It's in the 26 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: desktop context. There's one right there later in the year laptop. 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: But for a target base that is developers, a nerdy, 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: hardcore gamers, what's the future of that business for you? 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 3: Computer graphics is going to be here forever, forever. 30 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: And what we've done is we've fused artificial intelligence and 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: computer graphics together. And the images that we're generating today 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 4: wouldn't be possible if not for the fact that we're 33 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 4: using computer graphics to create beautiful pixels and then use 34 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: artificial intelligence to amp that capability. For example, you know, 35 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 4: out of four frames I was talking about yesterday, thirty 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: three million pixels to sew and four K. 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: Out of that thirty three. 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: Million pixels, two million pixels were computed, the other thirty 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 4: one million pixels were generated by AI. 40 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: In other words, the AI predicts what it thinks the 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 1: pixel should. 42 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: That's right, yeah, the ultimate generative AI. 43 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: But what was interesting for me is the focus again 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: was away from the graphics cards, away from Blackworld undepen 45 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: It's in Cosmos. We probably don't have time to explain 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 2: in full detailed Cosmos, but you call it a world 47 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: foundation model. 48 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 4: Cosmos is for the physical world. What chatchiptas for words 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: and text. That's the easiest way to think about that. 50 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Okay, so model text input, but can generate synthetic data 51 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 2: in multiple mediums. 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: It understands the physical world. 53 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: So for example, if I ask it a question, if 54 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 4: I ask you to generate multiple futures of a card 55 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 4: driving down the road, it would understand the the dynamics 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: of the world. They would understand the object permanence. It 57 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 4: would under understand geometry and space, and it would create 58 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 4: a driving uh scenario for the car that is plausible and. 59 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: So, and you open sourced it. 60 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: So I don't really think about it as a product 61 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: or a go to market. It's more about what Cosmos enables. 62 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: Is that how we should think about it. 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, the automics vehicle industry and the robotics industry 64 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 4: is a reilllying point to us, and we offer three 65 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 4: computers for them. 66 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: We offered, of course, the training. 67 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 4: Computer through DGX, through DGX, the robotics computer that's inside 68 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 4: the car or inside of robot and now we have 69 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: this new computer called Omniverse with Cosmos that is the 70 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 4: digital twin or the playground where these robots can learn 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: how to be robots, and so if we could accelerate 72 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: the development of an artificial intelligence for avs and for robotics, 73 00:03:57,800 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 4: it brings in a lot of business for us. 74 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: Of course, an academic point of tension here, if I 75 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 2: may Elon Musk is a customer of yours and Tesla. 76 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: Their theory or practice is based on real world data. 77 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Gathered through vision. 78 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, does the synthetic data underpinning of Cosmos kind of contradict. 79 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 4: That it doesn't replace it augments, and so you're going 80 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 4: to you should collect as much world data as you can. 81 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 4: Of course, collecting world data is very expensive, and Elon 82 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: has a great advantage because number one, he his AI 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: factory for his cars is fantastic, has a lot of 84 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 4: video gear in it. His av algorithms is incredible, it's 85 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: the best in the world. And he has a very 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 4: large fleet of cars on the road that allows him 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 4: to collect a lot of data. And so I think 88 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: he has just a phenomenal position, and he's been working 89 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: on this for a long time, and so he's he's 90 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 4: going to be in a great position to take advantage 91 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 4: of it. 92 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: Well, may I ask you that juncture, he's clearly influential 93 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 2: in this upcoming administration, but he also positions Tesla as 94 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 2: a leading AI and robotics company. Yeah, how does that 95 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: bode for Nvidia? Elon Musk's influencer President Electrump and also 96 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: thecoming administration's kind of attitude towards AI. 97 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 3: I don't know that the attitude towards AI. 98 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 4: I know Elon's attitude towards AI, and and he's very 99 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: optimistic about his future. And obviously he's working on some 100 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 4: of the most important AI areas. XAI is working on 101 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: foundation cognitive Intelligence AI, his test list, working on Thomas vehicles, 102 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: and optimists for humanoid robotics. These three areas of AI 103 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 4: are the three most important areas of AI, and so 104 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: I think he's working on exactly the right things. 105 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: You kind of positioned AI and Video's position in the 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 2: supply chain for physical AI, robotics, autonomous driving. 107 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: Explain it a bit more the role you see in 108 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: video play. 109 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 4: Well, we're a core technology company, and so we build 110 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 4: the foundational computing platforms. We're also full stack, and so 111 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 4: we developed the necessary algorithms, the necessary AI technologies, and 112 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 4: then we put it We put it out to the 113 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 4: industry for them to adopt it and turn it into 114 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 4: in market solutions. 115 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: We're computing platform companies. 116 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: So you're on stage and you're surrounded by I think 117 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: a dozen humanoid robots, which. 118 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: Is nice for you. 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: When will I be here at CS and Las Vegas 120 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: and actually. 121 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 3: Have there's some robots right now? 122 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: In real terms, you must have a timeline that you 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: see real world commercial deployment of the technology you outlined 124 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: last night. 125 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 3: It depends on use case. 126 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: I would say see first use. 127 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, the first use case will probably be in manufacturing. 128 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 4: You know, there's estimates tends, if not one hundred million 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: jobs that are workers that are the world is short 130 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 4: of workers and aging population declining, declining birth rates, and 131 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: so I think the world needs a lot more workers. 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 4: Robotics is one of the best ways for us to 133 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 4: supplement all of that and help companies recover the last 134 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: revenues on the one hand and drive productivity which reduces 135 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: inflation for the world on the other hand. And so 136 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 4: I think robotics is going to be very important to that. 137 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: In different areas. You could have probably deploy into manufacturing 138 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 4: first because they obviously need it most, which you. 139 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: See as a ginormous potential market addressable loss. 140 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: It's a fifty trillion dollar industry that wants to grow, and. 141 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: It thinks to grow. Sorry to interrupt you, Jensen. I 142 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 2: think the thing that Wall Streets struggling with this morning, 143 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: among many things, is DGX. They understand the investment there 144 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 2: that drains the foundation models. In terms of Nvidia's business model, 145 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: what you outlined last night, Cosmos and then later on 146 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: on the inference side, how physical AI helps grow your 147 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: business for them, drives DGX growth. 148 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: Just simple as that. 149 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, as simple as that. 150 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 4: I think if you just look at simply like that, 151 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: we have three computers, and two of the computers d 152 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 4: GX and Omniverse drives an enormous amount of data that 153 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 4: is necessary to train the AI models, and so Omniverse 154 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 4: creates the data that we then use to train AI models. 155 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 4: The training is what drives d GX sales. And the 156 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 4: more robots that are that are available, the more data 157 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: we can create, the more AI models we have to 158 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: we have to go train. That's that cycle is ultimately 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 4: what we're striving for. All of that drives consumption for 160 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: data center growth. 161 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 2: There is a surge in AI spending data center growth. 162 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 2: Some of our audience are a bit concerned about how 163 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 2: sustainable that is short, medium, and long term. 164 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: Well at at the limit. 165 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: Artificial intelligence is a single most important technology force of 166 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 4: our time, and it's really about we're at the beginning 167 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: of that and in the future every single data center 168 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 4: will be driven by AI and and the type of 169 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: computing that we today. And so if you look at 170 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: the world today, we're about a year and a half 171 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 4: into the remodeling, if you will, the modernization, the reinvention 172 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 4: of computing. And so I think that over the next 173 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 4: several years you're going to see the transition from the 174 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: old way of. 175 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: Doing computing general purpose computing. 176 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 4: There's a new way of doing computing, artificial intelligence and 177 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 4: accelerated computing, and so we have a lot of growth 178 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: to go do. 179 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: Let's go back to your and in videous roots and 180 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: therein lies the complication, right the story accelerated computing. You 181 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: spent four years to redefining the computer for me, but 182 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: then we get rtx Blackwell single black Well in that 183 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 2: form factor. The target audience is hardcore gamers but also developers. 184 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 2: And I wondered if you could give me any early 185 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: examples or evidence of how you see the gaming industry 186 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: adopting your technology, Well, AI. 187 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: Is going to reinvigorate. 188 00:09:58,080 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 3: The video game industry. 189 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 4: On the w one hand, for developers, is going to 190 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 4: reduce the cost of creating the content. On the other hand, 191 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 4: all of the characters that are in the games are 192 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 4: going to be smart characters in the future, so every 193 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 4: time you interact with them, they're going to be interacting 194 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: with you in a much more intelligent way. And so 195 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 4: the games are going to be more interesting, the characters 196 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 4: are going to be more interesting, the content development cost 197 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 4: is going to decline, and that's going to be really 198 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 4: great for the industry. 199 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: And so I think that the future is really. 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 4: Bright for video games, and these virtual worlds and artificial 201 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: intelligence is going to really reinvigorate it. 202 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: Project digits, may I. 203 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 3: Pick it up? Yeah? 204 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, three thousand dollars digits? Yeah, a supercomputer desk? 205 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 3: Exactly? 206 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: How could you imagine you're just sitting there just like that, 207 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: You're working on your PC? 208 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: Well? 209 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: Here, why would I need one of these? Probably not me? 210 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: But how big is the addressable market for this? What 211 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 2: is the addressable market? 212 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: There are thirty million software developers. They're probably something along 213 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 4: the lines of ten million designers around the world. Probably 214 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 4: another twenty million creative artists. Hard to say exactly how 215 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 4: many students. I'm going to guess probably a couple one 216 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 4: hundred million students around the world. 217 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 3: Everybody is going to have to board it. 218 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 4: Everybody's going to have to well, they can afford computers, 219 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: and so here's if they can afford computers and they 220 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 4: would like to have a companion that helps them do AI, 221 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 4: this is the way to do it. 222 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: Can I just clarify something? 223 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, on it? 224 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: I think you said on stage mac os, Linux and Windows, 225 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: but no, no, the location said just Linux. 226 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 4: No, No, whatever computer you use, you're literally enjoying how it's 227 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: going to be used. It's sitting right there and you 228 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: just connect to it wirelessly like it's your personal. 229 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: Cloud, I promised the audience. 230 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: So I'd clarify that. 231 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: Excited. Yeah, yeah, we're running short time. 232 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: President Electrump has been speaking during the course of conversation. 233 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 2: How imperative is it that you go to mar A 234 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 2: Lago and meet with him? If Nvidia is America's leading 235 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 2: AI company, and. 236 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: Will you I'd be delighted to go see him. Have 237 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 3: you been invited? 238 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 4: Not yet, but I would be delighted to go see 239 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 4: him and congratulate him and do everything we can to 240 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 4: help this administration succeed. 241 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 2: A lot of what you outlined on stage last night 242 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: in the realm of physical AI. You know, I saw 243 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: x Pong, for example, in the autonomous driving context that's 244 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: happening in China, like they are doing a lot on robotics. 245 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask you about tariffs. 246 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: You know, it's likely this coming administration will be as 247 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: restrictive on technology export and tariffs will be a function. 248 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: How have you prepared for that? 249 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: Jensen? 250 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 4: Whatever the administration ultimately decides, will give them as much 251 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 4: insight as we can from our perspective, and I'm sure 252 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: that the administration will make the right moves that's the 253 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: best interest of our country. 254 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five. 255 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: I kind of started the conversation by saying a lot 256 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 2: has changed since we last spoke in the summer. You 257 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: said that the age of general robotics is just around 258 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 2: the corner. Is twenty twenty five the year of general robotics? 259 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 2: Or is that a little premature to your mind? 260 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 4: The development is going gangbusters, as you can see all 261 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 4: the different robots that are going to be around here, 262 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 4: and the enabling technology necessary for general robotics is coming together. 263 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 4: All the pieces are coming together. The industry still has 264 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 4: a lot of engineering to do. If you look long term, 265 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 4: you pick your horizon in ten or twenty years, the 266 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: number of robots that's going to be on Earth that's 267 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 4: going to be measured in probably tens of nine hundreds 268 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 4: and not potentially billions of robots, and so those days 269 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: are clearly coming. Is it going to happen in the 270 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: next couple of years or the next five years, hard 271 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: to say, but the development of robotics is going to 272 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 4: be all over the world now and we're seeing startup companies, 273 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 4: large companies, industrial companies, consumer electronics companies all getting involved 274 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 4: in the future of robotics. And our offering to the 275 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 4: industry is a three computer system. And so whether they're 276 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: developing the robot, training the robot, we have DJX systems 277 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 4: for them and DJX clouds for them. If they're simulating 278 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 4: the robots, we have Omniverse for them, and if they 279 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: want to deploy that when they're. 280 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: Ready to deploy the robots, we have. 281 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: Little little computers that basically is the computer brain of 282 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: the robot that they can put inside the robot. And 283 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 4: so we'll work with the industry across the board from 284 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 4: the development of the robot to the deployment of the robot. 285 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 4: And we have computer systems for them, algorithms for them, 286 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: AIS for them, and we'll partner with the industry and 287 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 4: make this future happen very very quick. 288 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: Which line of business grows fast? Is this year data center, 289 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 2: gaming or other? 290 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: They're all going to grow fast. I think gaming is 291 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: continuing to grow our times. Vehicle business is already on 292 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 4: its way to be a five billion dollar business this 293 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 4: year and so and sometimes right run rate and so 294 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: the autonomous vehicle businesses is just starting to get off 295 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 4: the ground, and that tells you something about how we 296 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 4: address it. And the reason for that is we get 297 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 4: the benefit from the beginning of the development of the 298 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 4: AIS all the way to the deployment of the cars. 299 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: Because a car. 300 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 4: Company needs two factories, a car factory that builds the 301 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 4: cars and an AI factory that builds the AI sport 302 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 4: the cars, and both of these, both of these areas 303 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 4: we get to participate. And so I think it's going 304 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 4: to be a very large business. 305 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: I've made you late for your next appointment. Yeah, it's 306 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: crazy literally grateful for your time. It's good to see 307 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 2: you as well. Jensen One, the Nvidia CEO,