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Speaker 1: right at you. I'm of course been O'Brien. I'm here

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Speaker 1: with Phil Ty engineers. Say hey Phil, hello Phil Ty.

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Speaker 1: Here we are in different rooms. Uh, day three of

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Speaker 1: our quarantine Cast are daily quarantine Cast. How you feeling, Phil,

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Speaker 1: you're holding up over there? Yes, so far, so far,

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Speaker 1: so good. Um, families in good health. We have food

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Speaker 1: toilet paper. Because thank you, Phil, thank you. Please go

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Speaker 1: to at Phil Taylor. What is that? What it is?

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Speaker 1: Pe Taylor? Is it Phil Taylor? Nope, No, Taylor's something else.

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Speaker 1: It's Phil Taylor. You're you're right? You You know my

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Speaker 1: Instagram handle and I do not. Yeah, I've been I

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Speaker 1: handed out to enough people. Actually have a little card

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Speaker 1: with it printed out on there. And when I see people,

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Speaker 1: follow this guy. That's Phil. It's a little picture of

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Speaker 1: you on there. So you're welcome in advance. But listen,

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Speaker 1: we just recorded one of these and an intro out

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Speaker 1: to the podcast that you're about to hear with Remmy

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Speaker 1: Warren where we talk about New Zealand or New Zealand giveaway,

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Speaker 1: we talk about we do a little impromptu Q and

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Speaker 1: A with Remmy. You're gonna love that part. We just

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Speaker 1: uh recorded an intro that you'll never hear because I

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Speaker 1: lost my mind. Um, I got very enraged, and Phil

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Speaker 1: deleted it. Is that right, Phil, It's gone forever, gone forever,

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Speaker 1: And you know, let me just give you a summary

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Speaker 1: So this is a bad idea, Ben, You're just gonna

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna start again. You can see this go again.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna I'm gonna give a little You're gonna give

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Speaker 1: them a little summary and it's just gonna It's just

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Speaker 1: it's gonna escalate quickly. Oh it is. Um, let me

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Speaker 1: just let me say something. Can I rant for a minute? Phil? No,

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Speaker 1: please don't. Let's I have been watching a lot of

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Speaker 1: cable news lately and this is the exact same rank

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Speaker 1: that was exactly how it started. Yeah, I just want,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a journalist, as somebody with a journalism degree,

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Speaker 1: major cable news channels like Fox News, maybe MSNBC, maybe CNN,

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Speaker 1: to act in a way that, at least on the outside,

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Speaker 1: looks like they're they have our best interests in mind,

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Speaker 1: to not distort the news, distort words, distort facts in

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Speaker 1: that bucket. I don't call it the liberal media. It's

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Speaker 1: the media, and some of it is just garbage. And

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Speaker 1: to achieve that, and it is gross and sickening to me.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully I'm delivering this rant much better than the

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Speaker 1: last time. UM, I won't do that this time, I promise,

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Speaker 1: Phil don't worry. But I just want all of us

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Speaker 1: a huge problem in this country. So um, that's all.

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Speaker 1: That's all I have to say about that, Phil. Is

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Speaker 1: that better? Yeah? Not saying that's that was way better.

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Speaker 1: That was way better than last time. I didn't scream,

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Speaker 1: That's it. Okay, fine, th HC Daily. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: Daily Quarantine cast for you. Phil. Um, please keep me

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Speaker 1: in line, please please. I'll try my best, but it's

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Speaker 1: never worked in the past. That's true. That's true. All right,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get something much more germane to hunting in

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Speaker 1: the outdoors and that's our good friend and host of

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Speaker 1: the Cutting the Distance podcast produced by Filled the Engineer

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Speaker 1: in fact um straight from Reno, Nevada. Here's Remy Warren. Alright,

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Speaker 1: Remy Warren, what's up, buddy? What's that man? Oh? You know,

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Speaker 1: still still here with us. Well we uh, I think

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Speaker 1: the thing not to have to worry about the spring.

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Speaker 1: So that thank you Zane for writing in. That's pretty cool. Um.

423
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Speaker 1: Here's another one from Bryce Beard. He says, love your podcast. Uh.

424
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: He's from Teating Tition Valley, Idaho. Um. He comes to

425
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 1: a very successful hunting family. But my younger brother and

426
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: I were never taught all the tricks from our dad,

427
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: who was older when we were born, and our brothers

428
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 1: never had the patience to take us. So they love

429
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 1: cutting the distance, they love listening, and it's brought a

430
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Speaker 1: more success on the mountain. He his question is, he said,

431
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 1: you've mentioned glassing techniques in the past, but something I

432
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 1: find myself doing is wondering when I've looked at one

433
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,560
Speaker 1: ridge long enough and wanting to move to another spot,

434
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Speaker 1: how do you know when you have glass one spot

435
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: long enough and I'm not seeing anything? Is it better

436
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 1: to keep looking or to move to another bridgeline? How

437
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: long it's too long? And now how short it's too short?

438
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: Thanks Bryce? Yeah, I actually get a variation of that

439
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Speaker 1: question a lot. That's probably one of the thing people like,

440
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and do I do I move? How

441
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 1: do I know if I've seen everything? Um? So it's

442
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: super spot specific if you think about it. It is.

443
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Speaker 1: First first, I like to analyze the type of spot

444
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Speaker 1: that I'm looking at, and then I kind of analyze, um,

445
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:42,160
Speaker 1: the time of day and the percentage of spotting something.

446
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Speaker 1: So if I'm looking at a hillside that if you

447
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Speaker 1: if you look at the hillside and you go, okay,

448
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: what percentage of the hill is open? If it's like

449
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: pretty open, no, no thick cover, not a lot of

450
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 1: places for animals to hide, and you can look it over,

451
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: you go okay, I've I can see nine of the hill. Um,

452
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: I looked it over at a prime time of day,

453
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: morning or evening. I've probably seen everything. Time to move on. Now.

454
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 1: If it's say ten percent open and cover, well, you

455
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: definitely haven't seen everything there. Um. And it also depends

456
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Speaker 1: on what time are you looking at it? Sometimes you

457
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: look at a perfect looking hillside and you go, I

458
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen anything. You know, well, what time is it.

459
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: If you've been looking from eleven am to three pm,

460
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 1: well you probably aren't going to see anything. So at

461
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 1: that point I would stay and stick it out and

462
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: check out you know, a morning or an evening. But

463
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 1: also you just kind of if you're just starting to

464
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,719
Speaker 1: check out that area, maybe it's good to hit different

465
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 1: spots at different times a day. Um, Like, give one

466
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 1: spot a good half a day look and if there's nothing,

467
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: go to the next one. It just depends how well

468
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: you feel you're covered. If you think you've covered it,

469
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,479
Speaker 1: move on. Don't like they're spots that all look for

470
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: ten minutes and go, yeah, nothing here, it doesn't look

471
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Speaker 1: that good anyways, let's go check the next spot. So

472
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: it's it's so hard to say in exact, I would

473
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,879
Speaker 1: never like do the same different places on a just

474
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: a okay, I haven't seen anything here in this amount

475
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Speaker 1: of days. Um. And one more factor that I would

476
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Speaker 1: factor into that is like population densities. There's places that

477
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: I go that I just know are low density, so

478
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 1: I don't expect to see much. If you're in an

479
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: area that has a lot of high population of animals

480
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 1: and you aren't seeing anything, probably time to move on. Yep. Yeah,

481
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: it's it's a hard question to answer for everybody, but

482
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: I imagine, uh, it gets in your head when you've

483
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: been there for a long time and you're trying to

484
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Speaker 1: figure figure out what the hell to do, what the

485
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: hell to move if you've got a lot of ground

486
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Speaker 1: to cover, especially because I know you've I mean, every

487
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: time I hear you tell the mule to your story,

488
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: you're talking about pushing further. You know, you're not scared

489
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: to get up and move and move as far as

490
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: you need to. Yeah, I mean that's like, if I'm

491
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 1: not seeing anything, I'll probably move. Um. But also, I

492
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: know so many times people get the about of going

493
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: and moving and going to another spot and like looking

494
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: there and being like, no, there's nothing there, and it's

495
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: probably one of the better places they could look, but

496
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: they're just looking in the middle of the day because

497
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: they you know, got a little too anty or didn't

498
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 1: want to wait long enough. Um. So you really just

499
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: got to like you got to really play to this,

500
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,119
Speaker 1: like look at the most opportune times in the in

501
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:24,239
Speaker 1: the right places, and I think, um, yeah, it just

502
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: comes with practice too. Once you start finding animals, you know,

503
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,439
Speaker 1: hone in on what's similar about what wire animals in

504
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: this spot, and then go find spots that are very

505
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: similar to that. Now, if you're hunting really thick country,

506
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: you sometimes have to sit there for a long time

507
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: without seeing anything because if it has everything and they're

508
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: sign and you know there should be animals there, you

509
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: just aren't seeing them. Well, it's just that they aren't

510
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: in the open when you're looking there. So that's something

511
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: where if it's the thicker it is, the longer you

512
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: have to watch that small opening. And if there's not

513
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: many open areas, then you kind of just have to

514
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: stick and stick it out and wait in some of

515
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: those in some of those instances for sure. Um, all right,

516
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: thank you to uh Brice for that one. Here's another

517
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: interesting one, this Richard Cannati. It's a short one. I

518
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: feel like it's Cannati c A double N A D Y. Anyway,

519
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: I've butcher everyone's names all the damn time. Um. He said, Hey,

520
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm wondering what your take is on the morality. I

521
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: think maybe the ethics is what he means of hunting

522
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: along private fences. I found a honey hole, but it's

523
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: three yards from a private ranch. Is it wrong to

524
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: hunt that close to private property? Nope? Not wrong? Do

525
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 1: it all the time? No, I mean, I mean the

526
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: line is the line? Um you know, I think that

527
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: you want to be careful, like I wouldn't shoot something

528
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: jumping over a fence. You know, that's like um or

529
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: if it depends on the state too, like in Montana,

530
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm hunting a boundary line, I want

531
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: to be kind of far enough away where if I

532
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: hit something with a bow, it's not going to run

533
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: onto private you know, because you have to ask permission first,

534
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: and that could you know, the moral the ethics portion

535
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: would come into how can I, um, you know, if

536
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: if it's a hot day and you gotta go get

537
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: permission before you can walk in and retrieve your animal, yeah,

538
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: you don't want to be too close to that line

539
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: where it might But if it the animals facing the

540
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: other way, or it's downhill towards public and you're close

541
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: to the line, and I think that's fine. You just

542
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: gotta really you know, it's situational. But I don't know

543
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with being close to a property line

544
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: or a boundary line. Yeah, I mean when you say

545
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: the lines of the line. And we had somebody telling

546
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 1: a story the other day in the office about turkey

547
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: hunting left Spring in Montana. They had a strutting gobbler

548
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: on literally was strutting up against the property boundary fence.

549
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: It was like a three strand barber offense. This turkey

550
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: is strutting up against it. Well not cross the fence,

551
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: but technically it's on the other side of the line. Um,

552
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 1: you could have you know, obviously the shot would reach

553
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: through that and kill that turkey. M So they had

554
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: to sit there at forty yards or so and watch

555
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,879
Speaker 1: this turkey struck for twenty minutes and they decided rightly

556
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: so not to shoot it. Um. And when they did that,

557
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: they went up the road and got went back to

558
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: their truck and there was a game ward watching with

559
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: binos um. And so it's a good lesson the lines

560
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: the line. Even though you think you might be able

561
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: to cheat that line a little bit here and there,

562
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: like you gotta understand that that that line is there

563
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: for a reason and just respect the hell out of it. Yeah,

564
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's you know, the public land. If

565
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,920
Speaker 1: if you if it's on public it's all good, but

566
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: you know, you want to also respect private property. And

567
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm like huge on that, and I think for the

568
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: most part too, you know a lot of places you

569
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: can actually I understand why private landers don't want a

570
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,479
Speaker 1: lot of people on there is because most people do

571
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: dumb stuff. Um you know, so it's like you don't

572
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: wanna you don't want to be one of those people

573
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: that does dumb stuff. So yeah, I mean the world

574
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: keep yeah, just stop doing don't do dumb stuff. You know.

575
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: It's like but if if you're clearly on public land,

576
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: there's so I mean with on X maps, now you

577
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: can know where you're at, UM's it's a lot different

578
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: than it was ten years ago, fifteen years ago, when

579
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: you sometimes didn't you have to go off of paper

580
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: map and not even something like even before GPS is.

581
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's very difficult, and landowners used to put

582
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: fences that weren't actually the boundary lands and all kinds

583
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: of stuff. But now you know where you're at, you

584
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: don't really have any excuses not to know, so you

585
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: can you can actually get closer to private land, because

586
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: you know where you're you're the line is at I think,

587
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: but actually you just to be cognizant of where that

588
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: animals get to go and what kind of shot it is.

589
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's running toward a private fence and

590
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: you just kinda have to make a quick shot, I

591
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: would just say don't shoot because it's gonna make it

592
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: over that fence, and once it observe that fence, it's

593
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: no longer your animals. So you want to make sure

594
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: you can recover it in legally and ethically. So, yeah,

595
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: the same thing. That's how I would judge it. Yeah,

596
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: the same thing with private land. If you're on private

597
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: land and you know your neighbor to the north won't

598
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: let you track a deer and your neighbor to the

599
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: east will let you track a deer. Um, you know

600
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: kind of what the boundaries are. If you shoot a

601
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: deer and he runs north and you're probably screwed. Um.

602
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: And so just just know having that knowledge and going

603
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: into the situation making a snap to judgment with that

604
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: in mind. Um, it can be tough, but you've got

605
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: to have those those things, those boundaries in in order

606
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: when you're doing it. For sure, Um, here's an interesting one.

607
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: Derek ya Yasha Kazu. He said, my name is Derek.

608
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: I was born and raising Bozeman, but I live in Japan.

609
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I've been listening to your podcast since the start. I've

610
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: been a wat I've been a while since I've been

611
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: able to hunt back home, so it's great to listen

612
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: to experiences and tips way over here. I know about

613
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 1: the fog neck attack with you and Steve, But how

614
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: many times have you been bluff charged? I know, until

615
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: your are actually in the situation, you will not know

616
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: how you're going to react. But if you explain your experiences,

617
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: mind mindset and actions charges, um in the back hunter

618
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 1: overall could be a little easier to deal with. This

619
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: could maybe help others who won't who didn't grow up

620
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: in grizzly country. Um. And his title of his his

621
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: email was be bear aware or not bear annoyed. Yeah,

622
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I mean, like, full on,

623
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: how did I even know? I mean, there's probably about

624
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: half a dozen times that I've been like, you know,

625
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: job popping, bear slapping something kind of definitely showing you

626
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: do not come any closer. Um, I guess I would

627
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: be kind of like a false charge or uh um,

628
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: you know, mock charge. I would I've actually probably been

629
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: like false charged by or like aggressive I've had. I've

630
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: probably had more aggressive encounters with black bears and brown bears. Actually,

631
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: if I think about it, I mean a lot of

632
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 1: brown bears seemed for the most part, like I don't know,

633
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: they just their entire disposition is unsettling though, when you're

634
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: in close proximity, Tom, because something can happen so fast,

635
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: So even if they aren't acting aggressive or just being inquisitive,

636
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: like it's it's kind of an eerie experience. Even just

637
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: last year when I was on Kodiak, we were doing

638
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: some filming stuff and actually a commercial, and my wife

639
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: was with me, and we had like a bunch of

640
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: camera guys and we're just going to a salmon stream

641
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: and I spotted this bear feet like this cody ac brownberry,

642
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: just feeding on all this salmon. So I've got some

643
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: of the guys that said, hey, he's gonna come film

644
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: this bear, and it's just like a large group of

645
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: people and we start to sneak in. Well, the bear

646
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: decided to leave and then kind of circled us and

647
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: jumped up on its time legs, you know, within sixty

648
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: seventy yards and it didn't look happy and we didn't

649
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: look happy either. You know, we just kind of de

650
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: escalated the situation and left. But at that point, and

651
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: the bear could have done one of two things. It

652
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: could have charged and been aggressive, or he just slipped

653
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: off and we don't really know where he went. Um.

654
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: You know, those kind of things happen all the time,

655
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: like almost daily, so you kind of just gotta you

656
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: really just have to be prepared that any encounter could

657
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: be whatever kind of encounter. But I think I kind

658
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: of covered a lot of the bear safety stuff in

659
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: and one of the first that first set of podcasts

660
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: that I did, Um, yeah, gives you kind of a

661
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: good idea of like was it that Yeah, it might

662
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: even but yeah, I think you're right podcast too. Yeah,

663
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: it gives you a lot of tips on just like

664
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: how to read a bear's disposition and how to act

665
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: and what kind of charge it is, like if it's

666
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: being defensive, if it's being aggressive, it's being predatory, um,

667
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: and just understanding you know, you should take every bear

668
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: encounter seriously though, for sure, Um. Last one year. This

669
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: one comes from the Sunshine State uh, Sean Carver out

670
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: of Florida said, hunts hunts a lot of public land

671
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: down there, deer and hoggs. Um, but I had a question.

672
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: This is a question. I think you might get a lot.

673
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: I would guess if you do. He said, when you're

674
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: on a backcountry trip that takes you miles into the wilderness,

675
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: how do you divide up the meat and bring it

676
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: back if you are if you're successful killing an elk?

677
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 1: I know the head is always the last thing out,

678
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: But would you but would you get the meat back

679
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: to camp? Then pack out and get the meat back?

680
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 1: Vice versa. How do you get camp and the meat back?

681
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: And when the kind of what's the order? Um? You know,

682
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: it just it really depends. That's like, it depends how

683
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: far you are, um, how much camping gear you have.

684
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean you can always go like and and which

685
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: direction toward let towards the trailhead or whatever you you

686
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,280
Speaker 1: shot the animals. So it's just assume that he's talking

687
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: about Like, let's say you set up a base camp

688
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: four miles from the trailhead and then you hunted day

689
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: hunted two miles away from the trailhead from your camp

690
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: and got an elk. So at that point, probably what

691
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: I would do is I would get everything at least

692
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 1: back to camp, because you know that that's a pretty

693
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: good haul. Um. I mean me personally, I probably carry

694
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: way too much on the pack outs. Like a lot

695
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: of times I'll do it in two trips. Most people

696
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: will probably take three or four trips, which I probably

697
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: suggest just now is like everything in my neck and

698
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: back is cracking and pinching and very uncomfortable. Um, but

699
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: you know, and then and then you go, okay, well

700
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: I've got my camp. So it depends on how long

701
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: do you think you can do it? Are you gonna

702
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: do it in a day? Then I would just take

703
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: part of the elk, bring my camp back to the trailhead.

704
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: I would then stay the night at the trailhead and

705
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: then walk back. But if you think you can make

706
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: it there and back in one day, then you just

707
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: you just base it of where you're where your next

708
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: move is. It's it's just completely dependent on that. Like

709
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't ever have a set formula. Yah, Is there

710
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: any like there's any ways you've seen people commonly screw

711
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: that up? No? I mean the only time is like

712
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 1: when you you just kind of like take your camp

713
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 1: down and you think that you're going to get there

714
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: and back in time, and then you leave and then

715
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: you're like, oh crap, I'm now packing out through the dark.

716
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: But no matter what, you can make it work, Like

717
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 1: there's no real it's just how how much time you have,

718
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: how comfortable you want to be, what times of day

719
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: you want to be packing out. I think that that's all.

720
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: That's all just personal choice. Sometimes when I have like

721
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: a large pack out and I'm by myself, I like

722
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: to just do it in stages where I go kind

723
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: of like instead of going all the way one way

724
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: and then back, I'll just do like fairy things, So

725
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: I'll go from point A to point B, two point c,

726
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: two point ded to the end, and you kind of

727
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: just make like one month, go maybe go one mile,

728
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: hang it, bring everything one mile at a time. If

729
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: you go four miles, you're you're making the same amount

730
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: of trips. It's just a little easier to manage that

731
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 1: way sometimes. Yeah, And I know, like I've heard the

732
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: stories of you said, or even my own experience, like

733
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 1: you just got to know I'm in for a gnarly

734
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: pack out and I'll get to get to the truck

735
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: when I get there, and I'm just gonna keep working

736
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: until this is done, or you know, you're like, well,

737
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to take this load, come back and

738
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: sleep and get up and do it again. Just all

739
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: depends about where where you are sometimes, you know, I

740
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: know you do this all the time. You're just like

741
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: you said, I'm gonna I'm gonna work until this is done.

742
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: I might have to work all night, i might have

743
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 1: to walk till two in the morning, but I'm gonna

744
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: work until this is done. And that's just the hunt.

745
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 1: That's how it is. Yeah, I mean I've I've packed

746
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: out a lot. I mean I've packed out I don't

747
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: even know. I couldn't even just like from guiding and everything,

748
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: the amount of animals I've carried. It's probably i would say,

749
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 1: like from over a mile from a truck, maybe close

750
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: to a thousand packouts. And you're just like, you know,

751
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 1: I just say, like, I just rather get it done.

752
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 1: So I'm just like half the time I'm just like

753
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: strapping stuff to my front, dropping strepped to my back,

754
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: dragging things and just getting out not having to go back,

755
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: and like and that's the worst way to do it.

756
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: I'm like slowly changing things. Now, I'll use more horses

757
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: and do more stuff. You talk to you talking to Yanni.

758
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: You talk to Yanni Patelis nowadays, and he's like, dude,

759
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, he's getting older. It doesn't want to

760
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: hurt his back. So he's like, light loads as many

761
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: trips as I can. I'd rather save my back. Yeah. Yeah,

762
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: Like right now, I'm like trying to adjust to my

763
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: neck because I've got like a pinch to whatever in

764
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: my neck, and I'm like, it's just but you know,

765
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: you can do it. When I was like, if you're

766
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: like eighteen to twenty eight, yeah, go for it, load,

767
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: load it up, go nuts. And if you aren't doing it,

768
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: if you aren't doing it four four times a week,

769
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: then sweet, that's all the all the better. But you

770
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: also want to make sure you aren't going to injure yourself.

771
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: So I just say, take it easy, do multiple. I

772
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: think it's just mentally, it's a lot better to just go,

773
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: like sometimes go on stages where you just go, I

774
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: go halfway drop and then just kind of have stashes

775
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: and then kind of keep going from there. Um that way,

776
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like you're going all the way in,

777
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: all the way back, all the way and all the

778
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: way back like four times. That just mentally, it just

779
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: it's like long stretches where you have a little short

780
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: goals that just makes it easier. Sometimes I do that

781
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: a lot now, Yeah, yeah, I know it. Man. Um, Well,

782
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: there's a million questions the inbox for you, so you

783
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: gotta listen to cutting the distance if you want. You want.

784
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: You've done four Q and A podcast now to continue

785
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: to rip them out. Yeah, I'm trying to do them

786
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: like at the beginning of the month. So there are

787
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: two more, two more tactic ones and then UM and

788
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: then we'll just throw down with another Q and A

789
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: try to empty out some of the questions in the books. No,

790
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: it's great, man, It's great to see people where they're

791
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: coming from and I listen to this how they're getting better?

792
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: You know, I know you say it like in the

793
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: intro of the podcast. You said it a lot on

794
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: the show that that UM, you just want to see

795
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: see people's success and hear about success, and our email

796
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: inboxes full of people that are saying, hey man, this

797
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: is really helping um for a million different reasons, for

798
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: a million different scenarios, so it's it's awesome. If you're

799
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: not listening to the cutting the distance, God damn it,

800
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: go over there and uh do it. Yeah. I mean

801
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: every time I started the podcast, I think to myself,

802
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm giving away too many good secrets, and then I'm like, well, whatever,

803
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 1: this part of me like, man, I've seen some guys

804
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: out hunting this last season and thinking, man, these guys

805
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: know something that I know and it's probably my own fault,

806
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 1: but I can do it. You're a man of the people.

807
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: You're sacrificing. Um, yeah, all right, Well, you know, I

808
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this. We might have talked

809
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: about this before, but the First Light uh is given

810
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: away a trip to New Zealand with me, Benny any O'Brien. Um,

811
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that I've earned that.

812
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: I think that may be a little bit silly, but nonetheless,

813
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: I really love to go to New Zealand, and I'd

814
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: love to take somebody who's who's never gone. So I

815
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: relish the chance that the you know, for those of

816
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: you that entered this is gonna be a good thing

817
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: for you. If you forgot to enter the it's closed,

818
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: so you screw it up, Um, you'll have to live

819
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: with that the rest of your life. I'm sorry, but

820
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: we are going too soon select the winner. This whole

821
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: coronavirus thing might screw up our travel um for this year,

822
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: but I promise first light we'll put something together, whether

823
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: it's in one or as soon as we can possibly

824
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: get over there. But I figured since we got you, um,

825
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: we can go over like your time in New Zealand.

826
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: What you know, what you would say about hunting, hunting

827
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: tar over there and kind of what it is for you,

828
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: because I know it's a big part of your life.

829
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I met you in a

830
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: bar in Vegas at some you know, Sportsman's channel party

831
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: or whatever. We got to talk about New Zealand, and

832
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: in my mind at that time, this could have been

833
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: what's six seven years ago. Uh, New Zealand was a

834
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 1: pretty far off It was a pretty far off place, man,

835
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, I just met this kick

836
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: ass guy that goes over there and lives there and guides. Um.

837
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: I didn't not if I'd ever make it over there,

838
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: but thanks to you, I did. And I've been there

839
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: a few times now and and I can't think of

840
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: a better place, uh to go hunting and be outside.

841
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: So thanks for that, by the way, Yeah produced me

842
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: to that place and probably introducing a lot of other

843
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: people to New Zealand through your trips over there. So

844
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: give just give us a quick rundown. You probably told

845
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: this story on this show before, but just a quick

846
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: rundown of like how New Zealand came to be as

847
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 1: big a part of your hunting life as it is now. Oh,

848
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: I mean tar was like really what drove me over there?

849
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: I think I remember, I don't even know, as I

850
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: can't remember old I was probably like something like that,

851
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: and I just really wanted to go on uh, I

852
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: love like sheep hunting, mountain hunting, Like wait, there's I

853
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: can go over in New Zealand and do this like

854
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: you know, kind of d I Y style. So I

855
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: pretty much just bought a one way ticket and um

856
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: went over there and got my visas and everything and

857
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: just like figured it out and came back again. Member

858
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: the first trip it was like three three months or

859
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 1: something and yeah, really just like I bought a vehicle

860
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: and lived in tent and just traveled around and hunting

861
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: as many places I could and just tried to really

862
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: figure out tar hunting and just became kind of obsessed

863
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: with it. And I how did everything? You know, I

864
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: hunted everything that I can on the South Island. There's

865
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: some stuff that I haven't hunted on the North End

866
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: or whatever, but New Zealand just like, I love it,

867
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: and the tar hunt, to me is still probably one

868
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: of my favorites. I also like hunting fala deer and

869
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: some some of the other stuff, but yeah, I mean

870
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: it's just it's an incredible, incredible hunt. Like there's just

871
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: the mountains are amazing, the tar themselves are just some

872
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: of the coolest looking animals. I feel you just got

873
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: the main and the horn and they've got it all.

874
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: It's just like a it's an incredible adventure. And uh,

875
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I think it's It's definitely one that if you get

876
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: the opportunity to do, you're gonna love it. And I

877
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: think that's that's a sweet hunt to give away, because um,

878
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: whoever wins, it's gonna be pretty stoked. It's going to

879
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: be a pretty pretty great trip. Oh man, I remember,

880
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: we can't We're never gonna say the specific uh River

881
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: valley that you took us to the first time. We

882
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: went over there. We were with Andrew McKean and Shane Dorian, Um,

883
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: Ben Potter, all these guys. A couple of those guys

884
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: you'll hear from us on our daily podcast coming up

885
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: the rest of this week next week. But like I

886
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: remember you telling me we went and hunted fallow deer

887
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: on a sheep station and that was amazing to me.

888
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: And then it's like we went and stayed the night

889
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: at a ski resort um kind of at the mouth

890
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: of this river valley, and I think you told me

891
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: that night we were having beers, You're like, this this

892
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: hunt that we're about to do, this place you're about

893
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 1: to sea is the is my favorite place on earth,

894
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: Like the place I most excited to show anybody, um,

895
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: anybody that earns that privilege. And then the next day

896
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: we travel up this river valley and I've never I've

897
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: never seen anything like it. I know, I remember that

898
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: feeling like it was yesterday, seeing this country and knowing

899
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: that as you were saying, there's no seasons, there's no

900
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: bag limits. Um, they have huts available to the public.

901
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is walk in and sign your name,

902
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: and that's there's a well kept hut with cut firewood

903
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: and views of this this ridiculous subalpine and alpine mountain

904
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: range where these these uh Nepal and Indian native goat

905
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: like creatures are jumping around up there that you can

906
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: glass in the morning from from your from your hut.

907
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: I just everything from the beechwood forest, the Tussic flats

908
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: above them, Like I just I couldn't say enough about that,

909
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: And that's something you know from in my regards, like

910
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: if you say something is amazing, I believe it now

911
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: after after that proof, I mean, could just describe that

912
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: place without giving away to any specific because it is

913
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: a special special special places. Yeah, I mean it's just

914
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: like I mean, most of the big canyons are very

915
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: similar like that. It's got a big big river in

916
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: the bottom beach forest that go up to like what

917
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: would be the Alpine um and then the Alpine is

918
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: just like rock, you know, Tussic like a yellow tustic grass,

919
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: really steep, vertical. The head of the basin on on

920
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: like all the fingers has like glaciers in it. So

921
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: it's just it's all glacial fed streams coming straight off

922
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: of like big icy glaciers and um, yeah, it's just

923
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: it's incredible, like it's it's it's big country. It's really

924
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,839
Speaker 1: wild feeling. Even the marked trails in there, it's just

925
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: like a little suggested route because if you're a little

926
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: bit off the suggested route, you're probably not going to

927
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: get there because you're just gonna run into too many

928
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: vertical vertical rises and some of the places, you know,

929
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: you've got to use a rope to get over the rocks,

930
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: and you just like it's a it's a massive adventure.

931
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: And there's it's just stuff that you don't get to see,

932
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, other places, like the whole glacial canyon and everything.

933
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's incredible. It's really really cool experience, and

934
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: just like the variations and weather and the types of

935
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: animals that are there. I mean, and the other thing

936
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: is you could run into I mean, I think when

937
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: we went there the first time, we saw a red deer,

938
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: tar and Chammie and you're like, yeah, I mean, it's

939
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: just like how cool is that? It's unbelievable, man. I

940
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: mean I remember the first time going there, and I've

941
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: seen mountain ranges, I've been been some places, but the

942
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: first time going there, it's almost like you could see

943
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: the work that the Tatonic plates have done. Like, it's

944
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: such a you're on you're on an island at basically

945
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: sea level and you can see just the those glacial

946
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: cuts in the mountain. Just it's it's some of the

947
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: craziest train you're ever gonna look at. And that to

948
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: go there and just to to look up and see that, man,

949
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: I think, Um, I could just see the land at

950
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: work and how it how it got there. Um. And

951
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: to think that, you know, at the time, I didn't

952
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: know this, but I I read about it in the

953
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: In the couple last couple of years, the Duke of

954
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:12,479
Speaker 1: Bedford gave New Zealand the New Zealand government six tar

955
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,359
Speaker 1: um and nineteen I think it's like nineteen o four,

956
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: I want to say, um, and now there's now the

957
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: government is putting on call operations to shoe as many

958
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: as they can because they've populated that island so much.

959
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 1: So just the history of that place and that animal,

960
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: it's all all that stuff. Man, It's it's a it's

961
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: an amazing it's an amazing trip. How many you do it?

962
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: Every year? Still? Right? Yeah? I go over every year. Um.

963
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean it just depends how long. Like now I

964
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,440
Speaker 1: don't go over as long. But um, well, obviously the

965
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: whole coronavirus thing, I was supposed to be over there,

966
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: and I don't know, they've kind of they've kind of

967
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: I was actually supposed to be going to Argentina next

968
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: week and they stopped people from flying there, and then

969
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 1: I was going to New Zealand after that. So all

970
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: that stuff like kind of on pout. But you know,

971
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 1: it just it just plans and stuff and this if

972
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't go this year would be the first time

973
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: and probably the eleven years that I haven't. So well,

974
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: I just love it. It's yeah, I got everything kind

975
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: of set up for myself over there, just like a

976
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: vehicle that I store, some places to crash and um

977
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: some places that I love to go out and hunt.

978
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: And yeah, it's pretty cool, cool experience. It's amazing, man.

979
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: And you know, those stars have no natural predators, um

980
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: except for maybe you, who else who else is there's

981
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that hunt them. But and yeah,

982
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: I think it chased that chopper isn't cool pretty heavily

983
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 1: all Yeah, yeah, they don't. I mean, it's it's a

984
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 1: cool experience. So people are asking me a lot of

985
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: things about going over there. I obviously now there's a

986
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: as of this moment, as of today, Um, there's a

987
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: fourteen day quarantine band if you come in from an

988
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: international or quarantine deal if you go in there from

989
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: anywhere else, so internationally traveling to to New Zealand. So

990
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: if you were to land today, you'd have to sit

991
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: somewhere for fourteen hours and be quarantine before you could

992
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: go hunt. So your fourteen days two weeks have two

993
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: weeks fourteen days. Um, So it makes a lot of

994
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: sense that nobody's really going to go over there. Hopefully

995
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: our hunt is at the end of May. It probably

996
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: will be I would think it would be canceled. I

997
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: want to pick out a class for first Light, but

998
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: it'll certainly be a challenge to get over there, and

999
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: I know that will hunt. That will really hurt the industry,

1000
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: the hunting industry over there a lot. They depend on

1001
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: their their income and revenue from international hunters. So and

1002
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: this is the time of you where people are really

1003
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,399
Speaker 1: going there, and so yeah, that's you know, yeah, that's

1004
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people are affected in a

1005
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: lot of ways. You know that you know their whole

1006
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: yearly income or whatever is depending on this this time

1007
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 1: of year. It's like, you know, what do you do?

1008
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, just take the hit, try to do

1009
00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 1: your best you can. But yeah, that's just another way

1010
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: this is all affected. But um, for the for just

1011
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: in general, as you go over there, what are the

1012
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: things that people should be thinking about? You know, there's

1013
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 1: lots of people, many thousands of people that enter this contest.

1014
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: We haven't announced the winter yet, we will soon. But um,

1015
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: for folks that are are rookies that are thinking they

1016
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: might win this hunt or that, what just want to

1017
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: go over there? You have kind of a tips and

1018
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: tricks for for what to bring because I'm sure you

1019
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: I know you get that from reading all your uh

1020
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 1: from reading every single one of your articles and listen

1021
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: to your podcasts. I know you have everybody's asking you

1022
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: what gear to bring where? But um, you know, if

1023
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: you're hunting in the southern Alps of New Zealand, Um,

1024
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: for tar, what's what's the things you have to have?

1025
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you want really good hiking boots that are

1026
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: well broken and you want to be in good shape. Um,

1027
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 1: I always bring like yeah, you definitely want like a hiking, trekking,

1028
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: polls or like even like a I used something. Especially

1029
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: if you guys are going later, you're gonna want something

1030
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: like save yourself if you fall off the mountain, like

1031
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: a ice axe or something. Um, it depends where you're

1032
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: going to Like if you aren't in good shape, then

1033
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: just take a helicopter to the top. That's what I suggest.

1034
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of options there. And you know,

1035
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean the thing about it is like that that

1036
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 1: type of country is I don't think it gets stressed enough.

1037
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm like, yeah, I go over there and have

1038
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: it on my own, but also I have like a

1039
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: lifetime of experience like doing that and hunting in mountains

1040
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: and other stuff. It's super super super dangerous. Um. And

1041
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: I think like it just gets I think sometimes social

1042
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: media and stuff, people see people doing things and it

1043
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: gets like the difficulty level gets underestimated. Um. You know,

1044
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: so like if you're just thinking, like this is something

1045
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: I want to try honestly, like go with a guide

1046
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,880
Speaker 1: that that knows how how to get into the spot

1047
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 1: safely and other stuff, because you can really get in

1048
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: over your head really fast. And I think that like

1049
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: that's going to be a thing that stops it for

1050
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 1: people is like a bunch of people that don't have

1051
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: the ability or don't really respect the mountain enough to

1052
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: go over there and then have accidents and that's just

1053
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna get the whole thing shut down for everyone. So

1054
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: I think like going with somebody that knows what they're

1055
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 1: doing is is huge. Um. And then just like having

1056
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: the right gear as far as um you know, like

1057
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: it gets really cold, um, you know, having like some

1058
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: good insulation layers, some good like good clothing, good good

1059
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: rain gear, good rain gears, so clutch over there because

1060
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: you just get into so much crappy weather all the time,

1061
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: or you can, especially on the West coast. Um. So

1062
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you just kind of got to be

1063
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: prepared for everything. Have a good tent, uh, like good

1064
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: four season tent, and like you want some real high

1065
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: end gear because it's just it's pretty rough country. I

1066
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: think that that gets like underestimated because people see like

1067
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: hunting TV shows, but it might just be like they

1068
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: flew in for the day, but they're kind of playing

1069
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: it as like a that country hunt or whatever. You know,

1070
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: you don't really know. Um, So yeah, I just kind

1071
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: of want like the best gear you can get because

1072
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: it can be pretty like gnarly dangerous. It's an early hunt. Man.

1073
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I went over there. We

1074
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: were at the sheep station unloading our gear, and uh,

1075
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: I just I'd hunted around a little bit, but nothing like.

1076
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: I was from the from the east coast man and

1077
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: at the time I had lived in the Midwest a

1078
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: little bit. But I I had no idea, uh what

1079
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: I was getting into. I thought I did. I had gators,

1080
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: but I had boots, but they weren't the right kind

1081
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: of boots. I had worn them in good enough. I

1082
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: didn't have good enough rain gear. Um. It was tough,

1083
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 1: but you learned. But that, like you said, if you're

1084
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: going with a guide and that guy gives you a

1085
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: list of what to bring, you'd better damn well listen

1086
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: to that guy if you trust him. Um, and most

1087
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:52,960
Speaker 1: of the guys down there are top notch, especially uh

1088
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 1: the guys we're gonna be going with it, um for

1089
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: our trip. So I feel it, man, and I feel

1090
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: like we talk about it and we we say how

1091
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: great it is, and we say that there are no

1092
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: seasons and no bag limits, and it's kind of an

1093
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: idyllic situation. For US hunters in America that are kind

1094
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: of stuck in the season, stuck within our tags. But um,

1095
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 1: don't just charge down there and think that you're gonna

1096
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: have success. You might, but you can also get hurt.

1097
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: As Remmy is just saying, man, it's it's a serious deal, um,

1098
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: and you bring I'm in the best. The best story

1099
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: I have from going down there is going out on

1100
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: the West Coast and meeting with a guy who was

1101
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: was taking us into to look for stag on an airboat.

1102
00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: And before we did that, he said, hey, Mike, do

1103
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: you want to get some crayfish before we go? And

1104
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: I said crayfish? Well, uh sure. It took us out

1105
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: on a boat on an ocean and we came back

1106
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: with six fucking rock lobsters the size of my arm.

1107
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: So I had yeah, man, I had shot a I

1108
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 1: had shot a tar prior to that, so I had

1109
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: a whole YETI cooler full of tar meat and rock lobster.

1110
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: And for everybody that says you can't bring meat act

1111
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: from New Zealand, you're dead wrong, because I showed up

1112
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,279
Speaker 1: in l a X with rock lobster and tar meat

1113
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,360
Speaker 1: and they let me stroll right through with no problem.

1114
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, just just make sure you declare it. But yeah, yeah,

1115
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: yeah you declare. It's not a problem. Yeah, who knows

1116
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 1: that could change, um, but it's not a problem. And

1117
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 1: so if you if you're thinking about what's what's tar

1118
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: don't smell delicious. They don't necessarily look delicious as you

1119
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,919
Speaker 1: would imagine, but they are. They're some good table fair.

1120
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah. Some of the meats more like marble

1121
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: than other meat. I really like it. I don't find

1122
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: it tough for anything. I think most of it's pretty good.

1123
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: I prefer it over a lot of other stuff. Actually,

1124
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 1: it's really good. I did too. That was one to

1125
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: star on the top and you're like, yeah, it's one

1126
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: of my favorite meals. Man, that's like absolutely favorite meal.

1127
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Smoke reverse heard tar backstrap with some smoke lobster on,

1128
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: like cream cream smoke lobster. It's up. That's a fancy meal.

1129
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: That's like, you're like, what are you eating to oh

1130
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:04,319
Speaker 1: him laying talked to cool the water rock clubs from

1131
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: my friends in New Zealand. Yeah, that's pretty I like

1132
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: to go. I always try to make a trip and

1133
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 1: go powa diving or like you know, like abalone love

1134
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like pretty restricted now in California,

1135
00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: but over in New Zealand. I don't know what. I

1136
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: haven't really looked at the rules of this year. Haven't

1137
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: done it in a couple of years maybe, But we'd

1138
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: always just I'd always just go out and get a

1139
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: couple of those and cook it up, barbecued up with

1140
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: some tar and whatever, and just a little surfing turf.

1141
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool beyond an island like that. It's crazy

1142
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: because you're on an island, but you're in alpine mountain

1143
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: country and then you're like in the ocean a few

1144
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: hours later if you want to be catching blue cod

1145
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like it's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean, it's

1146
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: it's it's hard to describe kind of the way that

1147
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: landscape is constructed and kind of what you're able to

1148
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: do in a day's time. I mean, because when when

1149
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: I first went down there with you, we were, you know,

1150
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: and what you would call kind of the arid nava,

1151
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: the desert hunting fallow deer. One day we filled all

1152
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 1: we killed all our deer. We we had a great hunt.

1153
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you're hunting this this exotic croaking, you know,

1154
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 1: giant deer in the rut with these palmated antlers. It's

1155
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: just kind of a weird experience in itself. And you're

1156
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: doing that in the landscape that looks like, you know,

1157
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: kind of like the high to where you grew up,

1158
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: but like the high desert of Nevada, and then you

1159
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,959
Speaker 1: kind or whatever. Yeah, so that was a surreal jump

1160
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: up and be like straight up jungle alpine like. Yeah,

1161
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: it's like major rainforests, ferns and beech trees and like

1162
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: really really thick stuff. And then you just go into

1163
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: like alpine like top of the mountain looks like you know,

1164
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: remote Alaska. Yeah, that's that beach. That beach forest is

1165
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: unbelievable because there's a lot of h to it. Um,

1166
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 1: it's a it's a much a lot of mature a

1167
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:00,720
Speaker 1: lot of mature tim are in there. And then you

1168
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: get up into like those the tuss it covered rocks

1169
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: that kind of lead up into the alpine, and then

1170
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: you break out in the alpine and that's where you

1171
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: got all these alpine basins and stuff where these shammy

1172
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: and tar live. And it's just you know, I can't

1173
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: I can't talk about enough. I mean, I imagine that

1174
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: the Tourism Board of New Zealand is enjoying the ship

1175
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: out of this podcast. But man, it is it's that amazing.

1176
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: And when when first I told me that they wanted

1177
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: to give a hunt away with me to go to

1178
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,800
Speaker 1: New Zealand with somebody else, I'm like, hey, man, I

1179
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: am yea, heck the hell, yeah, man, I don't know

1180
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: that I deserve all that, but I'm glad somebody else

1181
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: can go with me, because it's it is. There's not

1182
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: a part of that South Island that isn't doesn't offer

1183
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: some kind of amazing experience out of doors. Yeah, I know,

1184
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: we we gotta stop talking about it because like talking

1185
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: about doing your hung Like, oh my gosh, I should

1186
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: be in New Zealand right now. Normally let's go there

1187
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: this time of year, I'd be leaving. Normally, I'd believing

1188
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: right now. So I'm like, come on now now, all

1189
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,240
Speaker 1: I want to be doing is chasing red deer in

1190
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 1: the beech forests and then jump up in the alpine

1191
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: chase some tar my lord, yeah, to hear a red

1192
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: stag roar like echoing around a beechwood forest, like right

1193
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: at dawn. We did that a couple of years ago,

1194
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 1: it was unbelievable if you get if you got the

1195
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,479
Speaker 1: gusto to keep hiking further up, and you're probably gonna

1196
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: be when you go down there, and you we gotta

1197
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: talk about this. When you go down there, you're probably

1198
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: gonna be led by a guy who's wearing shorts and gators. Uh, Like,

1199
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: what's the can you describe like the yeah, describe like

1200
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: the Kiwi attire because they just do ship differently down there.

1201
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: It's like it's like boots gators like thermals, and then

1202
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: shorty shorts on top of them, just bare legged through

1203
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: the timber. Yeah, yeah, I mean, well, yeah, I mean

1204
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: it's it's like thick their months later on, because you'll

1205
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: probably be in a lot of snow and stuff if

1206
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: you go later. You know, you're getting May in June,

1207
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: you're getting into kind of winter conditions. But yeah, yeah,

1208
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: well I can give you actually as we're talking here,

1209
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: we're talking as as now we're a daily podcast until

1210
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: this damn quarantine is over and we're all free to

1211
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: go back and adventure in New Zealand. Um. I just

1212
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: got an email from cam Our, our guide who would

1213
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: be our guy down there. He said, uh, I'll just

1214
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 1: read it to you. He said, at present, this this

1215
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: coronavirus has brought our guided guided hunting industry to its knees.

1216
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: As I'm sure you can imagine. The advice at the

1217
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: minute from our Guide's association is to try and rebook

1218
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: all our March that's April, Hans, till later in the season,

1219
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: and our government is reviewing the restrictions next on the

1220
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: thirty one to March. And he goes on and on

1221
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: and on. But but he said, uh, let's hang tight

1222
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: on this this particular hunt and see how this unfolds.

1223
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: We can certainly do it next year. We have to

1224
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: so um for that for in a way and an

1225
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: update for our for our contest here that's as pretty

1226
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: that's just as immediate as I can provide. And so

1227
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: some things will change, but hopefully we'll get together with

1228
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: First Light and find a good way to announce the

1229
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: winner here real soon. Um, so thanks for do it

1230
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: next year, or you know, you can always go hunt

1231
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: them in the spring to like. Their coats aren't as good,

1232
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: but you get some pretty big bulls. Most of them

1233
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 1: are down lower in the spring too. It's actually an

1234
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: easier hunt in the the spring. But like I said earlier,

1235
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: thanks for showing it to me. Um, I would go

1236
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,200
Speaker 1: there as many times as possible. Hopefully I'll go there

1237
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: with one of you this uh, this coming May, and

1238
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: if not this coming May, next May. We will make

1239
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 1: it happen one way or the other. I know, I've

1240
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of people messaged me wondering about this,

1241
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: and we will make it happen one way or the other. Um,

1242
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: what do you got what you got playing for the

1243
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: rest of the spring around me? I know you've got

1244
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things that got canceled. You're gonna turn

1245
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 1: that into turn that into an opportunity and uh around

1246
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: the States. Yeah, probably I'll probably just kind of do

1247
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 1: some more spring bear hunting and maybe some turkey hunting

1248
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: around here. Something be some stuff close to home. I mean, honestly,

1249
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: like it's just it's just like everybody else just monitoring

1250
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: what's going on, and you know, if something changes rapidly,

1251
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 1: which I just I don't think that's gonna happen. But

1252
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: if if something changes rapidly, then yeah, I'll probably be

1253
01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: down in New Zealand. But um, if it doesn't, like

1254
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna find things to do around here. Um,

1255
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, I'll keep I'll be doing the podcast thing

1256
01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: here and probably just catch up on some of my

1257
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: writing things if on the trips they got canceled until

1258
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 1: some season start around here. But you know, honestly, I'll

1259
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: probably be doing a little bit of shed hunting, so

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01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: a lot of fishing. You know. The best way to

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Speaker 1: avoid the coronavirus is to go outside and be by yourself.

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna be doing a lot of that, you know.

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Speaker 1: I think like there's you know, if you're one of

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Speaker 1: those people that your job got quarantined or whatever, go outside,

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Speaker 1: do something, you know, live live a good life, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't get to do crazy too freaked out. Just you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's kind of in the same boat. We're all,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've all got things that are you know whatever. Unit.

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Speaker 1: It's just like everybody's got some stuff, and some people

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Speaker 1: have it harder than others. So you just kind of

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Speaker 1: look out for your fellow neighboring. Yeah, that's the only

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Speaker 1: thing that's a good time to say, go outside. I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna load up on turkey hunts around the West

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Speaker 1: and bear hunts around Montana, and like if I do that,

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Speaker 1: I'll be like you. I mean, I have plenty to do.

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Speaker 1: I won't have any any qualms. And even if even

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Speaker 1: if you can't, even if you're somewhere where you can't

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Speaker 1: afford your turkey tag. Now that you don't have income

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Speaker 1: coming in, like you can go out and go on

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Speaker 1: a hike. You can go out and go hunt, hunt sheds,

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Speaker 1: or go out and pick mushrooms permission. Yeah, go find

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Speaker 1: some morrels, but cook close up. Yeah, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: a little spring fishing. You know, it's always fun time

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Speaker 1: find something. There's always there's plenty of stuff to you outdoors,

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Speaker 1: and and maybe just make sure you get out to

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Speaker 1: stay in shape for a fall hunting season. You know,

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Speaker 1: everybody's gonna have cabin fever here pretty quick. So I

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Speaker 1: think that, like the fall hunting season is gonna be awesome,

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Speaker 1: and just you find a way make away. So do it.

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Speaker 1: Getting shape, going a diet, cut your hair, shoot the hell,

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Speaker 1: get anything to get anything you can. Don't go somewhere

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Speaker 1: to get your hair. Oh whoa, yeah, cut your own hair.

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01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: Everybody shaving. I just shave my head, NASA, It's all good.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yesh, dude, all right, well, Remy, thanks man,

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Speaker 1: I know you'll be cranking out Cutting the Distance podcast.

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Speaker 1: So for those of you who don't listen to that show, UH,

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Speaker 1: do it right now. You have plenty of time. Go

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Speaker 1: and listen to it every Thursday morning on the Mediator

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01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: podcast network and anywhere you can download a thing. You

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 1: can download Remy. And if you miss, if you miss

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Speaker 1: somewhere you get bored, just go re listen to him.

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Speaker 1: I talk, I do them, and I don't even remember

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Speaker 1: what I say. I went back and listened to one

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Speaker 1: of the one a while ago. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: don't even remember saying that, but that's a good information.

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Speaker 1: I should listen. That's great. You could listen to it

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Speaker 1: forget it and you just pick out little nuggets here

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Speaker 1: and there. So yeah, people should know that. I'm the

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Speaker 1: same way. I always have people say, like, when you

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Speaker 1: said this in this conversation, what did you mean? I'm like,

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Speaker 1: let's I gotta tell you, man. I wish I could

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Speaker 1: remember specifically what I was trying to get across at

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Speaker 1: that point, but it's I think I don't really understand what.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember what I said. We're seconds ago. What

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Speaker 1: were we talking about here? We are New Zealand Australia.

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Speaker 1: We don't know, we don't talk, all right, man, we'll

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Speaker 1: take care of your people over there. Stay safe and

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Speaker 1: and and reno and if you feel like traveling up

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Speaker 1: here to bear hunt and uh in Montana, I'll be

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Speaker 1: here for you. So do you let me? I think

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Speaker 1: maybe we should play a little bear action. I got,

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Speaker 1: I got the itch. I'm ready. When is the season

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Speaker 1: starting tenth or something? Yeah, something like that. I like

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Speaker 1: to get a Nidaho tag and I'm Montanna tag. And

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Speaker 1: I don't really I mean, I just kind of like,

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Speaker 1: I just like hiking around with the bow or whatever, rightful,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It's fun. And I gotta come up,

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Speaker 1: you get, I gotta I gotta old school like percussion

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Speaker 1: cap muzzleloadery that I'm excited to doing that. I remember,

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Speaker 1: bring it, bring it on. That's I grew up doing that. Man.

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Speaker 1: I grew up with a I know, I grew up

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Speaker 1: with show me that, show me the ways. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: one of the one of the few things that I

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Speaker 1: can actually show Yeah, one of the few things I

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Speaker 1: could show you the way on. Uh do it, dude,

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Speaker 1: I know, let's go where I brought it up. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe i'll maybe we'll go bear hunting with my Howking

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Speaker 1: sounds fun. That's I shot my first year on pounds. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's really inefficient and makes no sense. But that's not

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Speaker 1: the first time we'll I've done something like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: sounds fine. We'll talk soon later. That's it. That's all

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Speaker 1: another episode of the podcast. In the books, Phil and

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Speaker 1: I have recorded and re recorded these intros and outros

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Speaker 1: so many times at this point, I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what day it is anymore. But that's what the Quarantine

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Speaker 1: Daily podcast is. It is us real and raw and

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Speaker 1: locked in rooms with microphones, and so that's where we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be. So thanks to Rammy Warren, thanks to Phill

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Speaker 1: the Engineer, Thanks to all of you for listening. We're

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of great guests lined up. We're talking

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Speaker 1: to Cole Kramer, my good buddy from Alaska. We had

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Speaker 1: a lot of good hunting stories for him and I together.

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Speaker 1: Uh Andrew McKeen, who's who is one of the editors

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Speaker 1: for Outdoor Life, who I went to Bulgaria and hunted

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Speaker 1: Russian boar with a few years back. That an amazing story.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to tell all of you. We got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of things lined up, the biggest elk on

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Speaker 1: my life on public Land and you saw with a

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Speaker 1: buddy of mine named Shawn de Gray from Total Archery Challenge.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you that story as well. So stick

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Speaker 1: with us every day until we can't do it anymore,

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Speaker 1: which hopefully will be every day until we can all

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Speaker 1: get back to our normal lives. So we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. Say bye, Phil, goodbye. The Hunting Collective with

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Speaker 1: Ben O'Brien is a part of the Meat Eater podcast network.

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Speaker 1: It is produced by Kringe Schneider and engineered by Phil Taylor.

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Speaker 1: You can find it on iTunes and Stitcher, Spotify, the

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Speaker 1: meat eater dot com, or anywhere podcasts are downloadable. Wherever

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