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Speaker 1: It's Michael Vick.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I ain't gonna lie I got that, but I

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Speaker 2: sacked that man.

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Speaker 3: That was one of the highlights.

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Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, I got a sag or.

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Speaker 3: I was a cover three. I was supposed to be

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Speaker 3: in the flag in the back. Start scramming. I said,

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Speaker 3: he you ain't gonna have me in this flag?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you better get it show shot. Our next

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Speaker 4: guess is a good one. I can't say that. I'm

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Speaker 4: like all the way excited because the last time we

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Speaker 4: saw this cat was in a big game and then

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Speaker 4: winning his favorite, not ours. I'm gonna just read some

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Speaker 4: of his rushment eight year NFL that played in Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl fifty. He's a Super Bowl fifty winning champion. He

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Speaker 4: is now the CEO and co founder of Player Above

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Speaker 4: Sports group. Ladies and gentlemen, TJ. Ward appreciate it, fellas congratulations.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I ever told you congrat lessons on

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl fifty.

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Speaker 5: But you know, I'm not gonna do it today, but

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Speaker 5: I will ask you what was the most impactful or

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Speaker 5: important play in your eyes or your opinion in that

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl fifty win.

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Speaker 2: I think was our first fumbles, the first to set

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Speaker 2: the tone of that game and we got the touchdown

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Speaker 2: that would just.

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Speaker 3: Set it off. It couldn't start no better for us, honestly.

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Speaker 6: But before that, that drag by Owens, that first big

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Speaker 6: over route that we hadn't had a big play like

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Speaker 6: that all year.

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Speaker 3: Start the game.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie and that momentum that even the

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Speaker 2: energy it gave a defense. Just get down there and

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Speaker 2: give us three to start with, and we're gonna hold

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Speaker 2: three as long as we can.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, man, that pushed off on me too.

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Speaker 5: I mean I gave it a veteran puss because he

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Speaker 5: was like, I didn't extended and that look at the refference, Like, bro,

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Speaker 5: he's like, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Not calling that. I'm like, okay, they.

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Speaker 3: Would because because you guys tight. Oh Greg Man, Greg,

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Speaker 3: he's you know, practice, you know. And then he get

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Speaker 3: to complain and pushing he does.

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Speaker 4: It's like they all complain, they all can play. How

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Speaker 4: did it feel one in the Super Bowl in your hometown?

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Speaker 3: That was a dream, contrue.

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Speaker 2: Man, It's like my football my life started here, my

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Speaker 2: football path had started here. Yeah, and the peak of

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Speaker 2: my football journey is ending and starting here or whatever

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Speaker 2: in the beginning.

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Speaker 3: But it was definitely surreal.

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Speaker 2: Like my family, I had a lot of family members there,

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Speaker 2: even though those tickets I gave him all the family Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I didn't sell any of them. And just sharing that

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Speaker 2: moment after in the hotel and stuff with them being

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Speaker 2: too exes from my grandma house.

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Speaker 3: Literally, it was amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's cool, that's real cool.

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Speaker 5: Could you talk about because I didn't even know this

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Speaker 5: until we did some research that you went to Dayla

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Speaker 5: South High School? Yes, sir, and so you played at

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Speaker 5: Dayla South when they were like Dayla South.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but DJ was early, I mean like tons of

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Speaker 1: guys and so what was it like?

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Speaker 1: Was it was it pressure? There?

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Speaker 1: What was that? What was that experience like?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 2: It was definitely pressure to you know, be as good

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Speaker 2: coming behind you. The next clan is behind DJ Williams,

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Speaker 2: You're the next Claer, Kevin Simon, the next Cla Marie

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Speaker 2: we gotta be as good or better. So it was

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Speaker 2: definitely a lot of expectations. I think we had a

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Speaker 3: To deal with. We were almost like a college program.

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Speaker 2: Expectations, responsibilities. You know, of course, no smoking, no drinking,

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Speaker 3: Expectations, Yeah what you wanted to do. So yeah it was.

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Speaker 2: It was definitely tough. But you know, you say, play

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Speaker 2: of the season. And that's why I walked on that

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Speaker 4: But how do you go from not playing your junior year,

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Speaker 4: you you go to Oregon and you ball out and

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Speaker 1: Like what changed from not playing to playing or starting?

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Speaker 3: That sounds a lot quicker and easier than it was.

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Speaker 1: Coming on.

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Speaker 2: I got the opportunity to walk on that organ because

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Speaker 2: I had four teammates, best friends. They all got scholarships

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Speaker 2: and Nick Aliotti the decordinated at the His brother was

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Speaker 3: So Gabe say, you.

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Speaker 2: Guys want to you want to come up and be

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Speaker 2: a preferred walk on. I said, cool, went up there,

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Speaker 2: and at that time, it's like I gotta be better

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Speaker 2: or I'm gonna be paying for education. Mindset exactly, free

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Speaker 2: agency mindset before you're created.

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Speaker 3: So I got the scholarship after a year.

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Speaker 2: I was starting and I got that first three years

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Speaker 2: for me was like a taste of success and then injury.

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Speaker 2: It's like I was starting and then I got hurt,

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Speaker 3: Hurt my knee.

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Speaker 2: And that happened for like two three years until my

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Speaker 2: I had a great season.

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Speaker 3: I played with Pat Chung. We were you know.

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Speaker 2: And then I stayed my senior year trying to go

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Speaker 2: as high as I can to draft and I get

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Speaker 2: hurt first game of the season my senior year, miss

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Speaker 3: Man, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 2: I was like I was getting told from teams second round,

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Speaker 2: that next day it was quick.

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Speaker 3: Early. I don't even think I was.

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Speaker 2: I was half sleep still, but no blessing nonetheless, and

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Speaker 2: I had a great time in Cleveland. Good great, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: not winning, we didn't win much, but being a pro,

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Speaker 2: learning the lifestyle and what it takes to be a

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Speaker 3: You know what not to do. This is what we're

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Speaker 3: doing is not working.

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Speaker 5: I bet experience probably helped you be ready to deal

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Speaker 5: you said, you guys are different in high school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so when you get to college.

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Speaker 5: You know, you got to be a little bit different

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Speaker 5: to separate yourself, especially as a walk on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 1: Then in the league you get drafted.

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Speaker 5: No matter where you're at, you still got once you

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Speaker 5: get in that room, you still gotta do something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to separate yourself. Yeah, that next thing

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Speaker 2: to push yourself coming. You know as pros individuals, you

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Speaker 2: find that little niche that drives you, regardless of what

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Speaker 2: it is being the underdog and being a walk on.

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Speaker 2: I use that my rookie year. Okay, I should have

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Speaker 2: been a first rounder. I felt I could have been

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Speaker 2: I thought I should have. So I used that to

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Speaker 2: rookie year. I didn't make Pro Bowl. I'm like, hey

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Speaker 3: So just find the little things that push yous along

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Speaker 1: Keeping it consistent. I'm a dB U and dB all

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Speaker 4: Right, we were in Charlotte, we were thieves Alley Avenue

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Speaker 4: Who had the better secondary, the no fly zone or

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Speaker 4: the Legion of Boom in Seattle.

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Speaker 2: And Lesion, we had the best secondary. Okay, I feel

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Speaker 2: we had the best secondary.

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Speaker 1: One of these reasons.

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Speaker 3: We played man and zone. We played every coverage.

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Speaker 2: We played eight, we played sixes, we played buzzes, we

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Speaker 2: them all the time. You never know what you mean,

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Speaker 3: Three buzz cover three.

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Speaker 2: I feel if you asked as that segregator to do

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Speaker 2: what we did, they couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: But if you asked us to do what they did,

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Speaker 5: When I look at the numbers and the people, I

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Speaker 5: agree with you. And that's because you had a Nickel

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Speaker 5: and Roby as well, who was a first round pick.

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Speaker 5: Chris Harris at the time was balling out of his mind,

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Speaker 5: doing what he was doing. Then you had Darren Stewart

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Speaker 5: big time.

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Speaker 1: Banger and then yourself.

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Speaker 5: So I would give you the slight nod just because

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Speaker 5: you have Roby at the slot and then with Seattle

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Speaker 5: and the legion of Boom, it was really just about

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Speaker 5: Earl cam and Shah Browning was great too, but he

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Speaker 5: was just so big, but that was starting to become

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Speaker 5: interertangeable and they only focused on the three versus you guys.

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Speaker 1: It was about all five.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's a little unfair to brown here

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Speaker 2: because he really grew up the boom to the legion.

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Speaker 3: See then m Cam was it wasn't even real early.

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Speaker 3: Earl you know, he can.

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Speaker 2: Do, he does his thing, but Browner and Can was

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Speaker 2: the boom in the legion. Like so when you say that,

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Speaker 2: I'll think more Browner than any other corner for sure.

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Speaker 1: In that leader six three dogs, he was one of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did it for longer period of time.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had it. We was hot three years

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Speaker 4: So let's transition into your your your second act after football.

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Speaker 4: What inspires you to get involved or launch the Players above,

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Speaker 4: Sports Group Agency and your war Boy Foundation.

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Speaker 3: Well, first with the four Boy Project, our foundation.

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Speaker 2: Is you know exactly what it is, creating foundation for

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Speaker 2: to provide as many outsources and resource or outlets and

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Speaker 2: resources for them to be successful that they wouldn't have otherwise. Right,

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Speaker 2: we know some of the areas and youth development programs

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Speaker 2: are lacking from you know, a time when we were

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Speaker 2: coming up. Unless more it's a lot more virtual and

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Speaker 3: So we have a mentorship program.

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Speaker 2: We have a scholarship program provided at Delaso High School.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned one of our kids actually was in the

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Speaker 2: Olympic trials that was on scholarship this past summer. So

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Speaker 2: that was leave him right it felt man, It warmed

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Speaker 2: me up on inside. I'm not gonna lie like that

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Speaker 2: was one of our guys. So fundraising like golf tournaments.

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Speaker 2: We had a craft feed so anything to fundraise and

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Speaker 2: be able to provide for these programs, these scholarships and

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Speaker 2: symposium we had that mental health, mental wellness, nutrition symposium.

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Speaker 2: So just trying to create these programs and things for

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Speaker 2: hopefully I get one of these Super Bowl champions one day.

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Speaker 2: Here you be interviewing them like, yeah, I came through

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Speaker 2: the war Boy project, So that's that's really the goal.

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Speaker 1: That's what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: And then with your your agency, talk about that, like

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Speaker 5: what made you go to there? Because so often players

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Speaker 5: they don't ever choose the agency route.

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Speaker 1: Yeah they don't even though, but everybody.

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Speaker 5: Wants to help players, Yeah, but nobody helps them in

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Speaker 3: Was it like it was.

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Speaker 2: Tough to get into It's tough right now because you

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Speaker 2: think you just hop in and I'm an explorer and

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: It's like starting any other business, Like you have to

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Speaker 2: prove that you're good in this space. Like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: a good player, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna be

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Speaker 3: But that being said, I have been through it. I've

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Speaker 3: done it at the highest level. I've done almost anything

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Speaker 2: I got a great team behind me. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: supportive of what know we do as a whole and

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Speaker 2: bringing guys along great recruiters, they know twn, we know

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Speaker 2: what kind of players we want, and it's just giving

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna get paid for doing my job.

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 5: Tell me something that you've learned since since doing this,

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Speaker 5: as far as like recruiting and trying to get players

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Speaker 5: never thought about is when you were looking for your

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the conversations I have with

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Speaker 2: the parents, it's more it's like that relationship is almost tired.

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Speaker 2: In the relationship you gonna have with the kid. It's

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Speaker 2: like I've talked to a lot of parents. I've talked

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Speaker 2: to more parents than kids.

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Speaker 1: That's something I did not think about.

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Speaker 3: And it's show trip, dude.

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Speaker 2: It's like I'm gonna speed out with parents just as

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Speaker 2: much as I am. But you know, when you're playing,

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Speaker 2: you're in it. You don't respond to text as much.

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Speaker 2: Even when I was a player, that was my biggest

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Speaker 2: My bad, and trying to understand that with these players,

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Speaker 2: so a lot of times you got to communicate through

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Speaker 2: their parents. Yes, because they talked to their parents all

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Speaker 2: the time. Did you talk to your agent today, No,

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Speaker 2: I even talked to it. Well, this is what we

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Speaker 2: got to get done, and they communicate that for you

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Speaker 2: or you communicate that through them, But definitely that part.

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Speaker 4: I know we got a short amount of time and

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Speaker 4: we got more guests, and I know you're busy and stuff,

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Speaker 4: but hey, man, I thank you for coming out. Thank

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Speaker 4: you guy, thanks for blessing us. I'll say it again.

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Speaker 4: Congratulations super Bowl fifty.

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Speaker 3: Yea. My brother next year with the Falgust, So I

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Speaker 3: was part of all that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I was talking to one of my teams, like, man,

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Speaker 2: we remember we were at the after party after they lost.

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Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it was awkward. I don't know

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Speaker 1: I didn't go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with.

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Speaker 1: You, knowing did that after party? We didn't do it either.

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Speaker 1: I didn't go. It was terrible. It was terrible. You

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Speaker 1: ruined our night. Thank you my pleasure. I appreciate you