Speaker 1: The volume. What's up, everybody, Welcome back to the Draymond
Speaker 1: Green Show with my brother v D. What's hiding in
Speaker 1: My Dog?
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Big Dog? Playoffs is crazy? Bro? I know you was
Speaker 1: at that game the other night, and obviously I was there.
Speaker 1: How you feeling after your knickstape fell off? Bro, oh
Speaker 1: Man defeated depleted? You know, just kind of like punched
Speaker 1: in it, Like you know, you get the wind knocked
Speaker 1: out of.
Speaker 3: You when he's standing in front of somebody when you
Speaker 3: was a kid and and you don't know if you're
Speaker 3: really about to fight that person, but they take off
Speaker 3: on you and give you one in the goodd and
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, damn, okay, this may be a fight,
Speaker 3: Like I hit this fool back.
Speaker 1: I gotta get my wind.
Speaker 2: But that's how I felt, Bro, That's that's how I felt.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, the Knicks played great for you know,
Speaker 3: forty five minutes of the basketball they wanted to play
Speaker 3: the last three minutes of those forty eight, you know,
Speaker 3: they kind of just start unraveling. And I don't think
Speaker 3: it was the pressure of oh, the Eastern Conference finals
Speaker 3: of this and that. I just think that they kind
Speaker 3: of like lost focus. You know, sometimes you get up
Speaker 3: and shit is going well, you're the aggressor, and then
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, a couple of things don't go
Speaker 3: your way, and then you get in panic mode.
Speaker 2: And that's when I think. I think the turnovers.
Speaker 3: I think that not the ability not to handle Indiana's
Speaker 3: pressure down the stretch. You know, we didn't show a
Speaker 3: lot of poise. That was That was my takeaway. It
Speaker 3: was a gut punch, right. It was like we got
Speaker 3: the win knocked out of us, digton Own City.
Speaker 1: It's tough, man, when you win the game in the
Speaker 1: playoff series, like you literally win the game and you
Speaker 1: look up and your record has one more loss. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to get out played and lose a game,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's one thing for the
Speaker 1: ball not to go in. All of these things happen.
Speaker 1: But when you won the game and you lose in
Speaker 1: a playoff series like completely just give the game away,
Speaker 1: it's hard to come back from that because, hey, again,
Speaker 1: it's one thing if you're just the superior team and
Speaker 1: you lost focus and you're like, oh man, we'll get
Speaker 1: to the f and we bot these guys. But when
Speaker 1: you're remotely close teams. You're gonna have one bad game
Speaker 1: throughout the series where the ball just don't go in.
Speaker 1: And so you're fighting an uphill battle for the rest
Speaker 1: of the series to try to make this game. And
Speaker 1: when I look at this, at that the collapse the
Speaker 1: other day, you look at Cat, you know, I watch,
Speaker 1: you know, I watch interviews, Like interviews tell you a lot.
Speaker 1: You look at Cat in the post game. He could
Speaker 1: barely get to a sentence. Him and Jaaln Bruston sat
Speaker 1: up there together. Jalen did most of the talking. Like
Speaker 1: you could just tell they were crush and you got
Speaker 1: to come back from that, like yep, And I just
Speaker 1: don't know if they can recover from that gut punch.
Speaker 1: Like the end of the day. Series is one oh,
Speaker 1: but all wins aren't created equal. Yeah, the series is
Speaker 1: just one oh. But now they have to fight to
Speaker 1: win the game. They also have to fight this feeling
Speaker 1: that anytime they get a lead, and the rest of
Speaker 1: this series it's going to be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: like don't don't do it, Like we can't do that again.
Speaker 1: We know what we happen, And so you're fighting that
Speaker 1: too now. And we were sitting up there by the
Speaker 1: Billy Joll High. We was up there with the guy
Speaker 1: to go to the dude that played the organ. We
Speaker 1: were sitting up there with him. Crazy. We were sitting
Speaker 1: up there with him. I had a bird's eye view.
Speaker 1: And one thing I noticed, and I was really shocked,
Speaker 1: because you like to think that Knicks family wanted to
Speaker 1: take all of it in, like went in they like
Speaker 1: they want to win in in the conference finals for
Speaker 1: the Knicks, like they want to fill every emotion they
Speaker 1: could feel throughout. And so I was shocked to see
Speaker 1: about four or five minutes ago, a few fans leaving.
Speaker 1: Were you one of those fans that was leaving?
Speaker 2: Man, that's checked up because.
Speaker 3: We are fourteen. We drove to the game, so we
Speaker 3: parked in the parking structure.
Speaker 1: Parking in New York City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's a parking structure right across the street
Speaker 3: from the garden. So me and my homie we go
Speaker 3: to the parking structure. And if you've ever been in
Speaker 3: a parking lot in New York City and give me anxiety, man,
Speaker 3: they park on.
Speaker 2: The side up the ramp.
Speaker 3: I'm like, gotta hell, you get out of here. How
Speaker 3: do you get all these cars in here. First of all,
Speaker 3: how are you gonna get all these cars out of here?
Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, like, damn, bro, we're on the fourth floor, right,
Speaker 3: It's gonna take us about an hour and a half
Speaker 3: if we don't be the first people to walk out
Speaker 3: of here and be in our car and start moving
Speaker 3: down the ramp, you know what I mean, before everybody
Speaker 3: start coming out. About two minutes to go. We are fourteen,
Speaker 3: Me and Homy sitting there.
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, bro.
Speaker 2: He like, man, he feeling good here.
Speaker 1: Makes Fanny like yeah, we got this. I'm like yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like damn, I'm thinking about this parking in there,
Speaker 3: talking for like the next thirty seconds. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: let's just shoot to the parking lot. You feel me,
Speaker 3: Let's shoot to the parking lot. So good thing. I
Speaker 3: don't know where I'm going. I was kind of just oriented,
Speaker 3: so so I walk. So, So I walk to leave.
Speaker 3: I run into JR. Swiss here on the other side.
Speaker 3: He's like, boom, come sit with me and mellow. I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh man, you know the game over Swiss. She was like, man,
Speaker 3: come sit with us. I go over there, sit on
Speaker 3: the floor. Save us up to l j all of
Speaker 3: nick along.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Next thing, you know, Indiana down eight, right, we're talking
Speaker 3: Indiana down pot.
Speaker 1: Now we over there, panicking.
Speaker 3: Now we over there, close out the gate, like come on, man,
Speaker 3: I mean, like you know, everybody said something, everybody like
Speaker 3: come on man, shit.
Speaker 2: You know all y'all do is protect the ball. Mexan
Speaker 2: free throws.
Speaker 3: And then when Hollaburton had shot the ball, I was like, man,
Speaker 3: there's no way this shit gonna go in right man.
Speaker 3: When the ball bounced, I started walking out the arena.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, it's over. I thought he hit
Speaker 3: a three and somebody was like, oh, it was it two.
Speaker 2: I came back.
Speaker 1: I said, spree, is it it two? He was like, kids,
Speaker 1: it was it two? I was like, damn, she is.
Speaker 2: The hummy was already at the parking lot. He kept moving.
Speaker 1: He kept moving too. The barket lit. I call him.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yo, where are you at? He was like, man,
Speaker 3: we beat the traffic. I'm about to pick you up.
Speaker 3: I'm like, nah, dog, it's overtime.
Speaker 1: You may need to get back in. Hes like what.
Speaker 2: Damn?
Speaker 3: Like you shouldn't have left that game. And there was
Speaker 3: some big Knick fans that was leaving on my side too.
Speaker 3: I was like, whoo man, Like, I was like, how
Speaker 3: you feeling. He was like, man, it's going to depend
Speaker 3: on how the outcome of this game.
Speaker 1: And he like a minute.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that did it even made
Speaker 3: at homes. He probably crashed something. He probably crashed something.
Speaker 3: Listen wrote the energy in this city it's crazy. I
Speaker 3: saw people last night. I know, guys who owned different
Speaker 3: restaurants and social clubs where they said the vibe was
Speaker 3: so crazy.
Speaker 1: In the place.
Speaker 2: Ooh my god, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: And then and then once the game ended, it was
Speaker 1: just like silence. Yeah, everybody, everybody started going home like
Speaker 1: the night was over. It's crazy because me and Chuck
Speaker 1: was standing up there five minutes before with the game.
Speaker 1: We're like, whoo man, New York City is about to
Speaker 1: be great tonight, and it just fell apart. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it, Like I couldn't believe my silent what I
Speaker 1: was watching. And now I'm so excited to go to
Speaker 1: the game tonight. Because as a player in these moments,
Speaker 1: one of the things that Steve talks about oftentimes in
Speaker 1: these pot pressure moments is yo let's make that crowd nervous.
Speaker 1: Let's go in here three three, game seven. And I've
Speaker 1: obviously been in this situation a bunch of times with
Speaker 1: Steve Kurr. Let's go in here, play our game. Let
Speaker 1: it fly. We letting it rip, you open, let it rip.
Speaker 1: We ain't got nothing to lose, Like, we're good. We hear,
Speaker 1: we already know how this is gonna go. And then
Speaker 1: he say, let's make that crowd nervous. Let's put some
Speaker 1: doubt in the crowd. We want to hear the anks
Speaker 1: that you want to hear that from the crowd. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to tonight and just seeing the angst of
Speaker 1: the crowd because if they missed them first few shots,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like oh oh, oh oh, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be so much eggs. And that's what I'm here to see. Man,
Speaker 1: you gotta make the crowd nervous. And if I'm Indiana,
Speaker 1: I'm coming in here to make this crowd so nervous.
Speaker 1: If Indiana start the game how they started Game one,
Speaker 1: they hit like their first eight or nine shots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they hit a bunch of stuff. You looked up, they
Speaker 1: were up four points. I was like, man, that's that's
Speaker 1: not good. But if they start off hitting shots like
Speaker 1: they did in Game one, I'm just telling you it's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. BD.
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Speaker 3: You gotta play the game, right, and so it's a
Speaker 3: new game. So at some point you gotta play game
Speaker 3: one behind. You gotta come out and know that you
Speaker 3: played grave basketball. You had control, you know, for forty
Speaker 3: five minutes. That's all you gotta do is close. Then
Speaker 3: you gotta get to Indiana and you can steal one
Speaker 3: because the matchups is there that. I still think the
Speaker 3: Knicks have the superior match I still think that they
Speaker 3: will beat Indiana and will beat Indiana in Indiana.
Speaker 1: And you know the.
Speaker 3: Playoffs, you know, the Eastern Conference Finals starts, well, somebody
Speaker 3: wins on the ruck.
Speaker 2: Yeah did? It's only cracking, Yeah, it's only cracking.
Speaker 3: I mean you talk about stealing one, right, that was
Speaker 3: That was That was thievery at his finest. Man. What
Speaker 3: do you think about Tyrese Halliburton. He hit the Reggie
Speaker 3: Miller choke celebration. Now that was called blooded man.
Speaker 1: Hey, as much as I love the choke celebration, and
Speaker 1: I pray to God the NBA don't find him. We
Speaker 1: take so many things so literal and like in today's
Speaker 1: damn age, you can't act like you're choking someone like
Speaker 1: that face.
Speaker 2: Come on, the guy.
Speaker 1: Is not really part of choke some more. And so
Speaker 1: I hope the NBA don't find him, because that's what
Speaker 1: we're paying to see. Like you talk about entertaining, just
Speaker 1: being entertainer to talk about stars being stars on the
Speaker 1: big stage at the Mecca, like the stars showing up.
Speaker 1: I pray the NBA don't find him, but I will
Speaker 1: tell you this about the choken. My favorite thing about
Speaker 1: the troupe was Tyres after the game saying, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I should have used it in game one.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. That can make cup and they
Speaker 3: come back to haunt you killing.
Speaker 1: I tell you that was my favorite party and show.
Speaker 1: He's I don't know if I should have used it
Speaker 1: in game one, but I'm here to say I think
Speaker 1: he should use it. If they went in game two,
Speaker 1: I think he should use it if they win in
Speaker 1: game three, game four, if I just be the villain,
Speaker 1: like just just lean into it at this point now,
Speaker 1: because it back down the court with Reggie Miller himself
Speaker 1: in the building, Spike Lee in the building. Spike wasn't there.
Speaker 3: Spike wasn't in the building. No, Spike wasn't Spike was
Speaker 3: in the building. Okay, Sean was in the building.
Speaker 1: Spike.
Speaker 3: I told you listen from from where we were sitting,
Speaker 3: and you cauldn see. You can see they look like magnets.
Speaker 3: You could I do spike, but the rundown the court
Speaker 3: like this man, that's still that's crazy. I can't believe
Speaker 3: you did that. That's ill. Tyrese Halliburn made or game
Speaker 3: time or go ahead? Phild goes in the final five
Speaker 3: seconds on the fourth quarter. That's third behind Reggie Miller
Speaker 3: with five and Lebron James with eight. Since nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 3: the year I graduated from high school, you weren't even
Speaker 3: born yet.
Speaker 1: Bro, that's crazy. You don't do me like that. I
Speaker 1: was saying. He was a young junior. Dickens. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I was seven, still in Sunday school every Sunday. Didn't
Speaker 1: go to church. You know what I'm saying. For sure.
Speaker 1: I was still in the church choir at that age.
Speaker 1: You better believe it too. I got the church choir
Speaker 1: b D. We were singing, uh, you know, Kurt Franklin,
Speaker 1: there here as a man. My first I had the
Speaker 1: first part, There's a man, and I was almost talking
Speaker 1: it and my my family talked about me, so they
Speaker 1: said I said, there's a man. Oh yeah, And that
Speaker 1: was the end of my That was the end of
Speaker 1: my choir days when they talked about how I let
Speaker 1: out with the song. But yeah, at that time, that's
Speaker 1: crazy thought, I put you at the alto.
Speaker 2: We gotta put you in the back the alto.
Speaker 1: They had me to lead off lead off batter. I
Speaker 1: said it wasn't a good toe.
Speaker 2: He was done.
Speaker 1: I remember my outfit though it's the Easter Sunday. I
Speaker 1: had some new black jeans my mom had bought me
Speaker 1: and in a red number one Mariyland Terrapince Jersey. I
Speaker 1: don't know why. It was a football church. Yeah, Bro,
Speaker 1: I ain't had no money like that, ain't had no
Speaker 1: extra out I had to wear that outfit the school
Speaker 1: on Monday. I had to wear school. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: my That was my Eastern Sunday outfit. And the last
Speaker 1: name on the back of the number one Maryland Tarriff
Speaker 1: and Jersey it just said Terrafits. So that was my
Speaker 1: quiry days ninety seven. That's what I had going on.
Speaker 1: A baby man. Bro Brunson obviously cush Player of the
Speaker 1: Year when I'm looking at this pacer team though teams
Speaker 1: all year has watched Jalen Bruston dominate the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: and I thought Rick Carlo did one good thing, and
Speaker 1: it was alarming to me. Rick Carlin on the fourth
Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter and overtime start trapping Jalen
Speaker 1: brust and I don't he traps all year. And one
Speaker 1: of the alarming things to me about that bad was
Speaker 1: you're always in game one looking for the adjustment for
Speaker 1: game two, and unfortunately for the Knicks, the the Pacers
Speaker 1: get to make all the adjustments that they know lost
Speaker 1: in the game, but they won the game. And so
Speaker 1: I think Rick Carlile was like, yeah, we're gonna start
Speaker 1: blitzing the next game. And then, like you said, fourteen
Speaker 1: turning eleven, eleven turn in the eight, A turn, the five,
Speaker 1: five turn to two, and all of a sudden, Ricarlo,
Speaker 1: maybe we got a chance to win this game. We're
Speaker 1: gonna start blitzing now. And they started blitzing. And one
Speaker 1: of the alarming things to me was Jalen Brunton and
Speaker 1: the blitz. As soon as the traps start to converge
Speaker 1: on he never looked up. He every time the blitz.
Speaker 3: Came to guys, he tried to yeah, and then he
Speaker 3: threw some of the passes.
Speaker 1: He jumped out about even if you don't blitz them
Speaker 1: the whole game. If Indiana like they don't with some
Speaker 1: whole game, I think you have to give Jalen Brusset
Speaker 1: a different coverage in the fourth quarter, then you do
Speaker 1: the rest of the game. And if I'm them every
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, I'm dropping the hell out of him because
Speaker 1: Ogn Andobi, none of those guys have been in these
Speaker 1: positions much to take over the game down the stretch.
Speaker 1: Og had a couple of game winners, that's fine, but
Speaker 1: they haven't consistently had to make the plays down the
Speaker 1: stretch because Jalen makes them and he's made them all year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I want to put them guys in that position
Speaker 1: so in the fourth quarter, Yeah, I need to see
Speaker 1: a totally different game.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the Knicks will need to work on
Speaker 2: a price break.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: If Jalen Bruston is your primary ball, handle it your
Speaker 3: primary score and Carline starts to trap him, you got
Speaker 3: to figure out who else can bring the ball up
Speaker 3: and settle us down. And I think putting that pressure
Speaker 3: on Jalen Brunston to try and beat two people every time,
Speaker 3: and that and him putting that pressure on himself, right
Speaker 3: is really you ain't worked on a press break, you
Speaker 3: gotta work on some pre pressure releases, get michel bridges
Speaker 3: in the middle of the floor or og.
Speaker 1: You gotta put pressure.
Speaker 3: You gotta put pressure on pressure, and I think the
Speaker 3: Knicks what they did was they kind of like allowed
Speaker 3: the pressure to happen and then try to force.
Speaker 2: That's what pressure does.
Speaker 3: It creates force and it forces you to do things
Speaker 3: instead of creating more pressure on their defense.
Speaker 2: If it's a two.
Speaker 3: Man trap, then it should be in three on three
Speaker 3: on two on the back end. And the Knicks never
Speaker 3: like they never got a wide open shot, a layup,
Speaker 3: a foul, or even let the shot clock expire.
Speaker 1: Right. That was my issue.
Speaker 3: We need a press break, and we need to figure
Speaker 3: out a way if Jaylen Bruston are gonna start getting
Speaker 3: double team and trapped at the end of the game,
Speaker 3: he gotta get off the rock and then you gotta
Speaker 3: get the rock back with eight seven seconds on the
Speaker 3: shot clock. So if they double again, at least we
Speaker 3: go get a wide open shot, get him out the
Speaker 3: front of the defense.
Speaker 2: Who you got winning this series?
Speaker 1: Man? I want to believe the Knick's gonna win this series,
Speaker 1: but I just don't. Oh my gosh, I want to
Speaker 1: believe they're gonna win it, PASCALSI I can play not
Speaker 1: that good and they won this game, and that's trouble.
Speaker 1: My ouse turner effectively got pitched and they won game one.
Speaker 1: B D. That's trouble, man. I know trouble when I
Speaker 1: see it. I grew up in Sagon all like you
Speaker 1: grew up in South Central. You know trouble when you
Speaker 1: see it coming from them all the way. That's trouble.
Speaker 1: All right. Dave May said, what up?
Speaker 3: We gotta start this segment by congratulating you name first
Speaker 3: team All Defensive for the fifth time in your career,
Speaker 3: nine All Defensive teams in the thirteen year career. Bro, Congratulations,
Speaker 3: well deserved. I also want to add in which I
Speaker 3: had been saying all year on the podcast, Steve Kurz
Speaker 3: said at the end of the season, he mentioned that
Speaker 3: starting you as center, I think is doable for the
Speaker 3: last thirty games like we did this year, but as
Speaker 3: you see, it takes a toll on him one.
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
Speaker 3: What do you think about you know those comments, because
Speaker 3: I agree I've been saying that all year. When Draymond
Speaker 3: Green does not have to assume all of the defensive responsibilities.
Speaker 3: Then it makes it makes the engine turn right.
Speaker 1: First off, thank you for me to be on All
Speaker 1: defense first team. And look at the guys next to him,
Speaker 1: twenty six years old, twenty three years old, twenty two
Speaker 1: years old, twenty two years old. I'm sitting there looking
Speaker 1: at that like wow, man, Like I remember being young
Speaker 1: guy in the league, and like still seeing Tim duncan
Speaker 1: make all defensive teams, you know what I'm saying, Like that,
Speaker 1: you know he's still doing it, and to be just
Speaker 1: finished complete a year thirteen and still up there with
Speaker 1: those young guys, and like, it's such an honor to
Speaker 1: be up there with those guys because I remember being
Speaker 1: that young guy, and I know that grind of like, yo,
Speaker 1: what you're striving for, And so to understand their mindset
Speaker 1: of where they are in their careers and how every
Speaker 1: day looks for them, and knowing how every day looked
Speaker 1: for me in and where I am in my career,
Speaker 1: and to still be up there brough as such an
Speaker 1: honor and I'm excited. To have five first teams is
Speaker 1: a big deal to me. And I tell you why,
Speaker 1: because it's one thing to be on all defensive team.
Speaker 1: I love it. But I had the pleasure and honor
Speaker 1: of having Chris Paul as a teammate last year, and Bro,
Speaker 1: I think CP got like seven first teams, so it
Speaker 1: actually inspired me. I said it to CP last year, like, see,
Speaker 1: you got seven first teams and so I want that,
Speaker 1: you know, and man to be on their list is incredible.
Speaker 1: And as far as Steve, what Steve said, God bless
Speaker 1: his heart. Yeah, it was real is because playing the
Speaker 1: five it's hard. Like it's hard, and I'm always down
Speaker 1: to do it, as you know, Bro, like any challenge
Speaker 1: you told my way, I'll take on the challenge. But
Speaker 1: it's hard battling every night guys who outweighed me by
Speaker 1: sixty to eighty pounds and they four inches four inches
Speaker 1: seven inches taller than me. It does take a toll.
Speaker 1: And in most situations for me, where I notice is
Speaker 1: taken the toe, Like I come out in the first
Speaker 1: half because I still got my legs and like the
Speaker 1: japeall is fire, you know what I'm saying. Then I
Speaker 1: come out in the second half, or you've been battling
Speaker 1: and even feel it you're anchoring the defense, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I don't think people understand the toe
Speaker 1: of and what anchoring the defense requires. Like that means
Speaker 1: every possession I have to put myself in a position
Speaker 1: to stop a fire. You know what I'm saying to
Speaker 1: like help stop something. It takes a lot, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like I always say, I'm cut
Speaker 1: out for whenever our organization need to go to it,
Speaker 1: I'm right here, let's do it. I ain't gonna never
Speaker 1: complain about it. But I agree with with Steve if
Speaker 1: we can have a different starting center and at some
Speaker 1: point if we need to go to that coup. But
Speaker 1: it's a lot. And as I get older and older
Speaker 1: in this league, it becomes tougher and tougher. These guys
Speaker 1: get younger, more athletic, and like I said, I think
Speaker 1: I'm more than capable of hanging with the young guys
Speaker 1: and athleticism, but it does take its toll.
Speaker 3: So I agree, Yeah, you need a match up. You
Speaker 3: can't be matched up with everybody. And you know, looking
Speaker 3: at you know the time now is you switching out
Speaker 3: to a one? You're switching out to Anthony Edwards, You
Speaker 3: switching out to Julius Randall, You switching out to Niles Reed.
Speaker 2: You got Rudy Gobert. You gotta stand him up. You
Speaker 2: got to go.
Speaker 3: You got Adams, You're trying to stand them up. You're
Speaker 3: trying to switch off to Jalen Green. You know, it
Speaker 3: becomes the toll, right because all now all you're thinking
Speaker 3: about is defense, defense, defense, defense, defense, because that's the
Speaker 3: only real energy that you have to get that rebound
Speaker 3: or to stop that pick and roll. So on the
Speaker 3: offensive end, I always say this is it takes away
Speaker 3: from you, know, from you because you are.
Speaker 2: More of your offensive playmaker for the team.
Speaker 3: So if you don't feel like you can make a play,
Speaker 3: you can finish the play, you can shoot the ball
Speaker 3: to keep the defense honest, then it kind of disrupts
Speaker 3: the offensive flow. But if you can come in and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm going to guarding a power forward all game and
Speaker 3: then I'm gonna wind up on to going at the
Speaker 3: end of the game, and it makes your job easier, right,
Speaker 3: and it makes anchoring easy.
Speaker 2: But it also save a lot of legs your intellect.
Speaker 3: You know, and you can get more out of Jmond
Speaker 3: Grave on the offensive end. And you know, that's what
Speaker 3: I've been saying all year, But I've been saying it
Speaker 3: taking a tote. That's what how It's how you feel, man,
Speaker 3: because I can see like you wearing down, right, you
Speaker 3: wearing down because at every game you you gotta push,
Speaker 3: You gotta push some big duals around.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? One thousand Now I can
Speaker 1: feel that. So I agree. When I look back at
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two when we won that championship, Bro, and
Speaker 1: specifically I go back to that Denver series. Just about
Speaker 1: every game we will start looning from Joker, and then
Speaker 1: I switched the Joker. And even if even if it's
Speaker 1: for the first six minutes, Bro, again, it takes. It
Speaker 1: makes such a big difference. Even it's for six minutes,
Speaker 1: Loan battle with him and then I go battle with him.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like it may it makes
Speaker 1: all the difference in the world. So I'm definitely unrolling.
Speaker 1: I think I can use that. So I love it.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm definitely rocking with Steve on that. I
Speaker 1: agree one hundred percent. And also speaking of Steve comments,
Speaker 1: I know there's a big fuss about his statement or
Speaker 1: Jonathan cominga yesterday, and for our fans out there that
Speaker 1: haven't seen the statement, I'll give you some context. I
Speaker 1: think he was on with Tim Kala Comedy and they
Speaker 1: were talking about JK and Steve's answer was it's a
Speaker 1: tricky one because trying to obviously is gifted and wants
Speaker 1: to play a bigger role and wants to play more.
Speaker 1: And for me, I've been asked to win, and right now,
Speaker 1: he's not a guy who I can say I'm going
Speaker 1: to play thirty eight minutes with the roster that we
Speaker 1: have Steph, Jimmy and Draymond and put the puzzle together
Speaker 1: that way and expect to win. And so I think,
Speaker 1: you know, when I look at that statement, I think
Speaker 1: I take a couple of things away from that statement,
Speaker 1: one being he said, with this roster that we have,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he didn't say that Johnathan Comingia can't
Speaker 1: play thirty eight minutes anywhere and be a successful player
Speaker 1: and be an impactful player and possibly reach his promise.
Speaker 1: That's not what he said. He said, with this roster,
Speaker 1: I don't see how that piece fits. Now do I
Speaker 1: agree with that? I don't know that I necessarily agree,
Speaker 1: because you just haven't seen it, and so I'm not
Speaker 1: of the mindset that something just doesn't work that you
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to see much of. But also
Speaker 1: in saying that, I think when you look at Steve.
Speaker 1: One thing that he's shown as a coach is he
Speaker 1: going to make the decision that he thinks best, regardless
Speaker 1: of what it comes with. We're talking about the same man,
Speaker 1: the same legend that didn't play Jason Tatum in the
Speaker 1: Olympics and dealt with all flat that came with that.
Speaker 1: But at the end, to his point, his ultimate goal
Speaker 1: is to win, and they want to go metal and
Speaker 1: that's what he set out to do. So here I
Speaker 1: understand what he's saying. I'm not I don't necessarily agree
Speaker 1: because we just haven't seen it and seen much of
Speaker 1: it so to actually know if it does work. But
Speaker 1: if you JK, you got to make the best decision
Speaker 1: for you. You got to try to put yourself in
Speaker 1: the best position that you can possibly put yourself in.
Speaker 1: And so I wouldn't get caught up into Steve said
Speaker 1: this with Steve said that, I think if you're Jonathan
Speaker 1: Caminga in this moment, Steve Kurr or Steve Kerr, he's
Speaker 1: a legend. He will be a Hall of Famer. These
Speaker 1: are just the facts, and so in saying that, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure it's worth getting caught up into the man.
Speaker 1: He said this my next interview, whenever that may be.
Speaker 1: I need to respond. Quite frankly, I don't think JK
Speaker 1: should have a next interview until after free agency because
Speaker 1: for what and I think in this position where JK
Speaker 1: has to be careful is Steve curR is the legend.
Speaker 1: Steve Kerr is one of the greatest coaches we've seen.
Speaker 1: JK can only lose here, like he can say something back,
Speaker 1: he could be the wrong thing, but he can only
Speaker 1: lose here. He has nothing to gain from trying to
Speaker 1: say something back, trying to respond to that, and he
Speaker 1: can only lose and hurt himself. So don't say nothing
Speaker 1: like free agency is happening. You gotta go into free agency,
Speaker 1: whether that's you know, he's a restricted free agent. You
Speaker 1: gotta figure out what's gonna work for you, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen anyway. So I would just say, man, Steve, Steve,
Speaker 1: Steve don't believe what he believed, and his beliefs has worked.
Speaker 1: He won four championships. So not gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: argue or go back and forth about his beliefs. And
Speaker 1: I don't think JK should either. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: if I'm JK and I'm in them shoes. I heard it.
Speaker 1: I need to move accordingly, figure out what's for me.
Speaker 1: But Steve, sit here and question him why he got
Speaker 1: four championships and when? And I'll remind you last time
Speaker 1: I said that to him, I said, wow, coach, we
Speaker 1: got four of them things. He said, I ain't got four.
Speaker 1: I got none. You got four. So that man know
Speaker 1: how to win. And there's no point of sitting here
Speaker 1: trying to question what he knows. It's been proven that
Speaker 1: he knows how to win, he knows what it takes
Speaker 1: to win. I think JK is going to be a
Speaker 1: great player, whether he showed out with the Warriors or
Speaker 1: show that somewhere else. That's on him to figure that
Speaker 1: out and his team to figure that out. But what's
Speaker 1: been proven is Steve Kurrin know how to win and
Speaker 1: JK is incredible talent. Those things are mutually exclusive. Both
Speaker 1: things can be true and they cannot work together. And
Speaker 1: that happens in this league all the time. It is
Speaker 1: what it is. I wouldn't make too much of it.
Speaker 1: I don't think he should make too much of it.
Speaker 1: I know Steve won't make too much of it. I
Speaker 1: think JK. You heard it. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that him saying that in words is
Speaker 1: any different than any conversation he's had with JK or
Speaker 1: B what you kind of thought anyway. So it's been
Speaker 1: said in words, it's been put in front of you,
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's really much different than what
Speaker 1: you already thought, just put it in words. So moving on,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that big of a deal. Free
Speaker 1: agency is happening. You gotta figure that out. You gotta
Speaker 1: navigate in passing before we get out of here. I
Speaker 1: know we haven't talked about the OKAC Minnesota serious much
Speaker 1: as obviously Minnesota's done two. So to your point of
Speaker 1: a role team not winning, it just don't feel like
Speaker 1: the series is even going on. Who you got winning
Speaker 1: that series? Like, can't Kim Minnesota put it together? Do
Speaker 1: you think they can come back? And if not, how
Speaker 1: long it's taken? Okay, see the end that series? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I just go to a quote by a legend, a
Speaker 3: young legend, Dremond Green, and he says, role.
Speaker 1: Players do what they play better better.
Speaker 3: So we'll we'll see what happens when Oka see still
Speaker 3: run in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: Then that's when the series happened.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: Part until then we got a way to game three
Speaker 3: to see what Minnesota is really gonna bring to the table.
Speaker 2: But you know, you look at that thirteen you.
Speaker 3: Know, the big blowout, and they lost last night by
Speaker 3: like thirteen fourteen or whatnot. Can the role players be
Speaker 3: thirteen fifteen sixteen points better? Can Anthony Edwards be ten
Speaker 3: points better? Julius randall, right, so they have room for improvement.
Speaker 3: But you gotta you gotta go serve home on your
Speaker 3: home court.
Speaker 1: You definitely gotta go home. They gotta get some home cooking.
Speaker 1: You need Dante to play better, gonna need nas Read
Speaker 1: to be better. Right like to the point of the
Speaker 1: role players. And I think Minnesota is getting a little
Speaker 1: caught up in the whole Shade file bait conversation because
Speaker 1: I can see some of their reactions to Shade when
Speaker 1: he gets out right like and man throwing the ball
Speaker 1: at him in game one, Jada McDaniel's just pushing you down.
Speaker 1: In Game two, I love Jady McDaniel's answer. He stood
Speaker 1: on He said, I just I just wanted to follow
Speaker 1: and end up getting a flag on one for it.
Speaker 1: But to me, that looked like frustration and okay, see
Speaker 1: can possibly be feeding on that. So you know, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we need to see them guys regathered, you know, recalibrate,
Speaker 1: get home, gather themselves, you know, make a couple of adjustments.
Speaker 1: But the number one adjustment going to be like the
Speaker 1: stars got to play better. Like Julius had a really
Speaker 1: good game one and I think starting they had twenty
Speaker 1: a half to and then he didn't touch the ball
Speaker 1: the first nine minutes out of the second half and
Speaker 1: they changed everything. So you're gonna need those guys to
Speaker 1: be great. But they're saying that and okay, see, look
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be too much for these boys. They rolling.
Speaker 1: We'll see, man, but we're gonna get out of here.
Speaker 1: We'll be back. We'll talk more about these conference finals
Speaker 1: as they go. We'll see if Minnesota able to make
Speaker 1: it a series and if your knixtape, if they can
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