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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, This.

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Speaker 1: Is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic, christ Is King.

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Speaker 2: We are following breaking news. Just in a CNNA Georgia

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Speaker 2: prosecutor officially dropped the historic rocketeering case against President Trump

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Speaker 2: and others for attempting to overturn the twenty twenty presidential election.

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Speaker 3: Log showers, inadequate lighting, mold growth, broken windows, methane gas leads,

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Speaker 3: fire alarms that don't work, nonexistent heating. During the last administration,

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Speaker 3: these were some of the chronic living conditions in our barracks.

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Speaker 3: Even though these barracks are where hundreds of thousands of

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Speaker 3: great warriors live, the conditions were never improved. So the

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Speaker 3: Department of War is investing more than one point two

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Speaker 3: billion right now to improve barrack's conditions. The task Force

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Speaker 3: is empowering local commanders think garrison commanders, with more than

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Speaker 3: four hundred million dollars to direct immediate work, and we're

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Speaker 3: launching more than eight hundred million in critical barracks renovations immediately.

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Speaker 4: President Trump says only a few points of disagreement remain

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Speaker 4: on a possible deal to end the war between Russia

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Speaker 4: and Ukraine, with the US official telling CBS News yesterday

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Speaker 4: that Ukraine's government had agreed to a peace proposal and principle.

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Speaker 4: Mister Trump discussed the negotiations last night on Force One.

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Speaker 1: Well, having some talks with Russia.

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Speaker 4: Ukraine is doing well. I think they're pretty happy about

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Speaker 4: it, and they'd like to see it end. And we won't

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Speaker 4: know for a little while, but well, we'll make it progress.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get someone to start leaking classified information,

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Speaker 1: national security information, like, oh, I don't know the current

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Speaker 1: peace negotiations between the United States, Ukraine and Russia. Leak

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Speaker 1: that out to try to gin up yet another impeachment

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Speaker 1: of President Trump.

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Speaker 5: The White House is under pressure tonight after an embarrassing leak.

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Speaker 5: Bloomberg has obtained a transcript of a phone call between

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump's right hand man, Steve Whitkoff, and a key

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Speaker 1: Ladies and John, and welcome on board today's edition of

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily. We're here live real America's voice, folks.

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Speaker 1: Today is November twenty six, twenty twenty five, Anno Domini

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Speaker 1: and go listen to what we said. Yes, so, yesterday

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Speaker 1: I sat down and did an interview with Liz Wheeler

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Speaker 1: over on The Blaze, and we were talking about the

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Speaker 1: Seditious Six And I know I've said this here as

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Speaker 1: are they asking for this? I said, They're looking for

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Speaker 1: another leak. They want someone to come forward and leak

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Speaker 1: on them, the same way that the phone call between

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Speaker 1: Zelensky and Trump all the way back in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: was leaked. And they're trying to use this eventually to

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Speaker 1: set up another impeachment, a color revolution, get Trump out

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Speaker 1: of office. That's what this is all about. Well, little

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Speaker 1: did I know that at so Human Events Daily runs

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Speaker 1: There comes a story exclusive Bloomberg News, and what does

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Speaker 1: it say? They have just received a leaked phone call

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Speaker 1: of Steve Witkoff talking to the Russians all about the

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Speaker 1: Trump Ukraine peace deal. It's wit Cough leaks, folks, It's

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Speaker 1: not WikiLeaks anymore. It's Witcough leaks. So someone we don't

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Speaker 1: know who exactly, but someone with access to classified information.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember, by the way, go back to

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Speaker 1: the Mike Flynn leaks with the Russians, David Ignatius over

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Speaker 1: the Washington host what did he do. He got a

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Speaker 1: leak through PAISA, So he got a leak through FAISA,

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Speaker 1: which was on the Russian ambassador Sergai Kissliak's phone. He

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Speaker 1: got that leak of Mike Flynn talking to him during

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Speaker 1: the transition period, and they use that to open up

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Speaker 1: a Logan Act criminal investigation on National Security Advisor incoming

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Speaker 1: Mike Flynn all the way back in December of twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty excuse me, twenty sixteen. Gosh, so far, so long ago,

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. So could it be that elements of the

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Speaker 1: the US government, possibly Cia, possibly Ukraine, and they passed

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Speaker 1: it to someone we don't know exactly yet. There was

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Speaker 1: a conversation between Steve Witkoff and the Russians, and they're

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Speaker 1: having a conversation negotiations, the plate, the piece deal is

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Speaker 1: talking about their bosses. Really basic stuff that happens storing negotiations,

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Speaker 1: and the media is going to be very upset. But yes,

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Speaker 1: this is standard negotiation dialogue which he's having. In fact,

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Speaker 1: that's been Steve Whitcoff's job. That's what he was asked

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Speaker 1: with these various disputes. Now he had Israel, Gaza a

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Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Now we're looking at Russia Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: end of the first year and people saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: is there going to be any end in sight? Now

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Speaker 1: I've you know, I can personally attest to these efforts

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Speaker 1: because I've been there in the room, traveled all the

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Speaker 1: with President Trump to sit down with Lavrov and Vladimir

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Speaker 1: Putin himself also was there when Zolenski came to the

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Speaker 1: what do we see also that Macron is now calling

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Speaker 1: yet again for European troops and American troops to enter

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Speaker 1: Ukraine to quote, maintain the peace, have a bea peace

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Speaker 1: new tricks. The neocons have one playbook, and only one playbook,

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Speaker 1: and that is to leak, to obfuscate, to subvert, and

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Speaker 1: Dan Driscoll there with the troops handing out meals for

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Speaker 1: is joining us right now. It is Dan Caldwell, a

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Speaker 1: former I can say former here official over at the Pentagon. Dan,

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Speaker 6: I'm doing fantastic than Thanks for having me on, Jack.

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Speaker 1: So walk me through this story of the leaks, which

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Speaker 1: I have to say you know, when I was talking

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Speaker 1: I thought it'd be, you know, Trump and Zelensky or

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Speaker 1: the wi Cough leaks. Right, we had the Wiki leagues

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Speaker 1: leaking this out because it's very simple. They're trying to

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Speaker 1: he said this about Trump and he said this about Putting.

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Speaker 6: Well, they want them to fail for a number of reasons.

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Speaker 6: So let's just say you've you've nailed it. The timing

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Speaker 6: to go Driscoll to Kiev, Witcough to Moscow, and that

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Speaker 6: what they're trying to do is they're trying to take

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Speaker 6: and it's absolutely disgusting. But I think that the silver

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Speaker 1: And I think you're exactly right. And by the way,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, as you cannot. There's a straight line from

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Speaker 1: Then no, the deal's only going to get with the

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Speaker 6: Talk about influencers. These are influences and they're friends of mine. Jack,

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Speaker 6: So first of all, my advice to all your listeners

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Speaker 1: of any you know, of any agreement. That's why they

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Speaker 1: launched the war was over this issue. So they're just

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Speaker 1: not going to agree to that in any situation. They're

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Speaker 1: going to say, if that's what you're you know, your condition,

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Speaker 1: We're just going to keep fighting. And then what it

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Speaker 1: also comes down to this the idea of land swap.

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Speaker 1: I saw that obviously. Wikoff mentions that in the League transcript,

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I haven't really seen any

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Speaker 1: proposals for Russia to give back any land that they've

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Speaker 1: taken save that DMZ potentially and done Yetsk.

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Speaker 6: Correct, and I think they hold small amounts of territory

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Speaker 6: in Kharkiev and Sumi Province. They probably withdraw from there

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Speaker 6: and maybe agreed to some type of buffer zone, but

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Speaker 6: there likely wouldn't be a lot of land given back

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Speaker 6: on the Russian side. I think that's reality. But Jack,

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Speaker 6: you're absolutely right about the NATO point. And I think

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Speaker 6: it's also worth noting too that President Trump repeatedly, going

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Speaker 6: back years, has said that Ukraine shouldn't be in NATO

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Speaker 6: and said exactly what you said, is that this is

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Speaker 6: one of the main drivers of the war. I was

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Speaker 6: with Secretary Hegseth back in February where he made very

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Speaker 6: clear in front of all the NATO defense ministers and

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Speaker 6: the Ukraine Contact Group that we don't believe that Ukraine

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Speaker 6: should join NATO. And so I think that that for

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Speaker 6: the United States and Russia is a deal breaker. But

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Speaker 6: for the Europeans, they keep pushing that in my view

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Speaker 6: because a lot of the members of EU and European

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Speaker 6: members of NATO, let's just be honest, they want the

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Speaker 6: war to continue. So they're trying to insert that as

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Speaker 6: a poison pill to undermine the negotiations and ultimately keep

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Speaker 6: this war going on as long as it can for

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Speaker 6: their own reasons.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, they do all right, Jack, sobk Dan Calwell right

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Speaker 1: back Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 6: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 1: Where's Jack? Where is he?

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Speaker 6: Jack?

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Speaker 3: I want to see you.

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Speaker 1: Great job, Jack, thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have an incredible thing. We're always talking.

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Speaker 3: About the fake news and demand, but we have guys,

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Speaker 3: and these are the guys you're forgetting policies.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jack the Cubik. We're back live here Human

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Speaker 1: Events Daily. We're on Dan Crowball.

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Speaker 6: Dan.

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Speaker 1: You know's what's interesting about all of this is you

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Speaker 1: and I are sitting here and we're chatting during the

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Speaker 1: break a little bit, but we're having this discussion about

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Speaker 1: the Ukraine Russia peace deal. We're trying to be very

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Speaker 1: sober about this, not give you know, not let emotions

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Speaker 1: or you know, opinions really guard it. Other than this

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Speaker 1: is analysis, right, This is understanding what the status of

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Speaker 1: forces is on the ground, understanding what the order of

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Speaker 1: battle is, and trying to look at what's in the

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Speaker 1: best interests of certainly the United States and then you know,

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Speaker 1: hopefully obviously our allies and partners as well. But that's

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Speaker 1: not what you get from a lot of people when

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Speaker 1: you read about this conflict. What you get are these

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Speaker 1: sweeping statements about legitimacy and credibility and histrionics and shrieking

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Speaker 1: from you know the neocon crowd, and I guess I

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Speaker 1: guess my sense of it is, you know, and you know,

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Speaker 1: having worked in the IC and having worked in DC,

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Speaker 1: I do try to get us you know this. There's

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Speaker 1: one school of thought right that says, Okay, it's all cynical,

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Speaker 1: it's all about money, it's about oil, it's about this

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Speaker 1: and that. And to be sure, that plays a part,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if that it completely answers the question.

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Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the neocons, they just

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Speaker 1: actually believe this stuff like it's a religion.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. Their religion is American primacy. It is America needs

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Speaker 6: to not just be the most powerful country in the world,

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Speaker 6: which we should strive to be, but we need to

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Speaker 6: dominate the world so we can oppose liberal hegemony. Is

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Speaker 6: that they believe that ultimately America was founded and obviously

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Speaker 6: this is the wrong interpretation of America's founding, but that

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Speaker 6: America was founded with this holy mission to make the

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Speaker 6: world safe, not you know, for Americans, but for liberalism

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Speaker 6: as a whole. And so for them, especially over the

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Speaker 6: last few years, is that Russia Ukraine has become the

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Speaker 6: central theater in that battle. Never mind the fact that

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Speaker 6: as the war is dragged on, Ukraine has indisputably become

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Speaker 6: more illiberal. You know, as you mentioned earlier Zelensky's ruling

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Speaker 6: under martial law. They're cracking down on media outlets in Ukraine,

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Speaker 6: They're trying to close certain churches in Ukraine, and they're

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Speaker 6: press gaining tens of thousands of Ukrainian men and forcing

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Speaker 6: them to serve on the front lines by no reasonable measures.

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Speaker 6: That a symptom of a healthy liberal democracy, not to

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Speaker 6: mention the recent corruption scandal that is rocking Ukraine. And

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Speaker 6: so for them, they are so invested in that narrative,

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Speaker 6: in that mission that if the war ends with anything

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Speaker 6: short of a total Ukraine victory, it is going to

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Speaker 6: shatter a core tenet of their faith. And so that

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Speaker 6: is driving a lot of this. It's like, it's not

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Speaker 6: just the military industrial complex wanting to make more money.

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Speaker 6: In reality, Jack of You've talked about before is military

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Speaker 6: industrial complex is more work than they can handle. They

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Speaker 6: have like seven, eight, ten years worth of backlogs and orders.

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Speaker 6: So that's not the only motivation here. Definitely people want

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Speaker 6: to make money off of it. But in the United States,

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Speaker 6: in the Beltway, there's so many people just invested emotionally

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Speaker 6: and personally in this that it's like this quasi religious

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Speaker 6: fervor that really has overtaken their thinking and preventing them

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Speaker 6: from doing reasonable analysis of this conflict.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you put it that way. It truly

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Speaker 1: is the religion of d C. The Bible of the Beltway,

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Speaker 1: if you will, In the Bible's taught when you're going

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Speaker 1: through you know, George Ross's University, or you're going through

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Speaker 1: Georgetown or whatever it is, or any of the you know,

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Speaker 1: the foreign policy schools, you get taught neo conservatism, neoliberalism,

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Speaker 1: and that is your soul. And by the way, that

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you're a Republican or a Democrat. You

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Speaker 1: get taught that this is a central tenet of our faith,

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Speaker 1: that the United States must be this what they call it,

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Speaker 1: you know, the global guaranteur, right, the global guaranteur of

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Speaker 1: the international rules based order. And by the way, Tony

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Speaker 1: Blincoln would talk about this at length. And this is

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons that they opposed Trump so much.

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Speaker 1: Because Trump doesn't play within the rules. He holds these

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Speaker 1: unilateral calls. He appoints people like Steve Whitcoff, right so

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Speaker 1: to them they've they viewed Trump. It isn't even just

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Speaker 1: so much that he's offering, you know, a piece deal

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Speaker 1: to the Russians. It's the way that he's going about it.

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Speaker 1: He's not kissing the ring. He's not going through the institutions.

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Speaker 1: So it's like he's not working through you know, his

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Speaker 1: diocese and his archdiocese and his bishop and the monsignors

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Speaker 1: and the cardinals. No, he's he's set up his own

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Speaker 1: religion and he's trying to do it on his own.

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Speaker 1: And that's the kind of response you're getting. You're getting

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Speaker 1: a response of a religion that's trying to drive out

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Speaker 1: a heretic.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. You know, in this case, the cathedrals are places

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Speaker 6: like Ai, you know, on the right, in Brookings on

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Speaker 6: the left, which I just have to note the differences

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Speaker 6: between those institutions aren't much. The same families run the

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Speaker 6: foreign called, the same family runs the foreign policy program

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Speaker 6: largely at both institutions. Re Red Kagan at Ai, his

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Speaker 6: brother Bob Kagan at Brookings, who by the way, is

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Speaker 6: married to Victoria Newland. So a lot of the as

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Speaker 6: you pointed out, like the debate really is within the

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Speaker 6: forty yard lines here and there's not much difference. And

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Speaker 6: that was the case for you know, nearly thirty years

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Speaker 6: until Donald Trump comes down the golden escalator in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 6: and he just blows it all up, and a lot

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Speaker 6: of the anger against him, a lot of the just

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Speaker 6: over the top rhetoric, and let's be honest, a lot

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Speaker 6: of the actions by the National security state against him

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Speaker 6: had been driven by the fact that he's a heretic

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Speaker 6: in the main religion in DC, and that religion is

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Speaker 6: liberal hegemony.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, you know, as I obviously we

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Speaker 1: see what's going on down in Venezuela or off the

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Speaker 1: coast of Venezuela, and certainly the president is within his

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Speaker 1: rights and absolutely within their interest in the United States

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Speaker 1: to drive out narco terrorists that are affecting our country.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you do hear and you

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Speaker 1: can feel those wins of liberal higenemy pushing that naval flotilla,

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Speaker 1: that carrier strike group closer and closer to Venezuela because

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Speaker 1: they want to drive this out and get us enbrilled

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Speaker 1: and yet another war the Vietnam of the Tropics, I guess,

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Speaker 1: right in our own hemisphere. Because this is religious for

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Speaker 1: of these people.

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Speaker 6: Right, and and again, as you and I have discussed,

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Speaker 6: what matters in our own hemisphere is more important than

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Speaker 6: the negativedual issue of which Eastern European oligarch gets to

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Speaker 6: loot the don Bos. You know, that's maybe a little

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Speaker 6: little flippant. Let's just be honest. It's like that doesn't

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Speaker 6: really matter to our core national It's just true, yes, exactly,

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Speaker 6: but you know, so we we do. This does matter.

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Speaker 6: The cartels and other entities in the Western hemisphere are

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Speaker 6: more of a threat to us, and say the redmnants,

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Speaker 6: al Qaeda and ISIS in the Middle East, but it

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Speaker 6: is I don't think it's in our interest to conduct

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Speaker 6: a regime change war and our own hemisphere right now.

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Speaker 6: We will see what happens there. It looks like President

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Speaker 6: Trump is maybe backed off and is trying to once

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Speaker 6: again pursue diplomacy with Maduro. We'll see how that develops.

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Speaker 6: But it's interesting is that there actually are some people

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Speaker 6: in the who traditionally are warhawks oppose what is happening

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Speaker 6: in Venezuela because one, it's President Trump doing it, let's

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Speaker 6: be honest.

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Speaker 4: But also too is.

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Speaker 6: That they are more attached to what happens in the

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Speaker 6: Middle East or in Eastern Europe than our own hemisphere,

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Speaker 6: because they don't really have an attachment to here at home.

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Speaker 6: It's attachment to the global project of liberal hegemony. And

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Speaker 6: so that's why you have Bill Crystal, who's never met

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Speaker 6: a war he didn't like. I mean, a few years

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Speaker 6: ago he was talking about making Cuba our fifty first state.

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Speaker 6: He's raising concerns about doing stuff in Venezuela. And so

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Speaker 6: that's something I'm starting to see pop up, is people

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Speaker 6: opposing this and causing for calling for congressional oversight in

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Speaker 6: Venezuela when they've opposed it for years in Ukraine and

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Speaker 6: Iraq and Syria in Afghanistan, because for them, it's about

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Speaker 6: the global project, not what actually matters to us here

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Speaker 6: in our own backyard.

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Speaker 1: Right because we're not exactly up against another empire there.

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Speaker 1: It's not exactly this crossroads of the world, the you

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Speaker 1: know where East meets West. I mean Ukraine itself. The

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Speaker 1: name ugur Nitza means at the border, it means borderland.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's always been this sort of area where

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Speaker 1: you know, you've seen this clash of empires and of

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Speaker 1: course we saw that in World War One, we saw

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Speaker 1: that in World War Two, and we see it yet

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Speaker 1: again today Napoleonic Wars. It's everyone knows the history, and

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Speaker 1: if you don't, you should start learning it because you

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Speaker 1: will be doomed to repeat it. Final minute to you,

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Speaker 1: Dan Clawwell, and make sure you also give us your

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Speaker 1: coordinates for where to follow you.

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Speaker 6: Jack, I just want to say real quickly, you absolutely

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Speaker 6: need to learn about that history, not just World War Two.

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Speaker 6: I'd advise everybody to learn about another war besides World

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Speaker 6: War Two, specifically World War One, but putting that aside.

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Speaker 6: Where you can find me the most is on X

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Speaker 6: at Dande Caldwell on X and Jack, thank you for

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Speaker 6: having me on. I really love this discussion all right.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, just to just to get this

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Speaker 1: out there, because this has been kind of blowing up

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Speaker 1: on my Twitter feed, I got to know what your

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Speaker 1: stance on green bean castle roll. Are you four or

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Speaker 1: are you against? Can green bean cast role be part

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Speaker 1: of your Thanksgiving dinner?

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Speaker 6: I have never had green bean cast role as part

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Speaker 6: of Thanksgiving. That doesn't mean I'm opposed to it. This

651
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Speaker 6: is a cop out. Okay, maybe I'd like it maybe not.

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Speaker 6: That's just not something my family's ever done.

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Speaker 1: But okay, but how about in okay, how about in

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Speaker 1: the abstract in general? Is green bean castle role served

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Speaker 1: at your table?

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Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever I look, you may kick

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Speaker 6: me off to show I see what's going on.

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Speaker 1: Damn, you're coming over. We're having Danner Tanya's making the

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Speaker 1: castle role. We're gonna twist you on this, man, Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Gonna get you on the team. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Happy Thanksgiving, brother, They don't be right back you Events.

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Speaker 3: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 4: He's written a fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 7: Go get it that.

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Speaker 6: He's been my.

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Speaker 1: Friend right from the beginning of this whole beautiful event.

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Speaker 3: Pat We're going to turn her around and make our

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Speaker 3: gun way to get him a man.

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, we're back Jack pasobac here Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 1: You want to thank Dan Colball for coming on and

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Speaker 1: giving us that great round Robin Ukraine, Russia, Venezuela. We

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Speaker 1: kind of hit all of it. The wit coff leagues

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Speaker 1: we got in there. So Thanksgiving is tomorrow, and we're

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Speaker 1: obviously very excited about that. I'm very excited about that.

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Speaker 1: We're going to be We're going to be home Philadelphia area.

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Speaker 1: I'm probably going to be probably going to be seeing

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Speaker 1: a football game at some point this weekend, but more

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00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: to come on that. And we've got something really exciting

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Speaker 1: for everybody on so Thanksgiving Thursday, and then of course

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Speaker 1: Black Friday right after. What we're going to be doing

681
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: here on Human Events Daily is taking kind of a

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Speaker 1: different tack on things. And there's been a few stories

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Speaker 1: that I've wanted to get to and really just sit

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Speaker 1: down and devote a lot of time to. And the

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Speaker 1: biggest one I think, of course that's clearly on my

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00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: mind and all of our minds. It's certainly not never

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Speaker 1: far from my thoughts is the murder of my friend

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. And we are got the you know, the

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Speaker 1: T shirt on here, the black Freedom shirt, and these

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00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: are available, by the way, if you want one of these,

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Speaker 1: you just go to Turningpoint dot com. They gave me

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Speaker 1: a shirt and they said that if I want the shirt,

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Speaker 1: I have to say turning Point dot com, so you

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Speaker 1: can go and get the They've got shirts, they've got hats,

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Speaker 1: they've got other things up. But we're going to try

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Speaker 1: to dig in into the case of Tyler Robinson himself.

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Speaker 1: Who was this guy? Why did he do what he's

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Speaker 1: alleged to have done, What was his relationship with Lance Twiggs,

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Speaker 1: his homosexual boyfriend and then lay trans furry lover and

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Speaker 1: how did liberalism, furry fetish's pornography and all the rest

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Speaker 1: of it lead to what we're told is him climbing

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Speaker 1: up on that roof and taking shots at my friend.

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Speaker 1: And so we're going to spend two days on this.

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Speaker 1: We're going to go through leaks that originally were released

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Speaker 1: by a YouTuber called Turkey Tom and we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about it with Liz Wheeler tomorrow and then a Friday,

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Speaker 1: we've got clinical psychologist, doctor Chloe Carmichael a is going

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Speaker 1: to join us, and with doctor Chloe, we're actually going

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Speaker 1: to do a sort of you know, psychoanalysis, psychoanalytical description

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Speaker 1: of the relationship between these two, what makes them tick,

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Speaker 1: how one drove the other, and potentially what the motive

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Speaker 1: may have been. All of this is going to come

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Speaker 1: out at the trial, by the way, so you know,

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Speaker 1: we're clearly trying to get a head of that. But

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Speaker 1: you know, even for my own edification, you know, I

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Speaker 1: this is how I deal with things, folks. This is

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Speaker 1: how I when something like this happens. You know, other people,

718
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: you know have different processes. My process is this. I

719
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: want to know everything. I want to understand it. I

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Speaker 1: want to get my arms around it. I want to

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Speaker 1: get my head around it. So that's who we want

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Speaker 1: to dig into. Last night we played on Thought Crime

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Speaker 1: some of the footage from last year's Thanksgiving episode, and

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Speaker 1: it was a really interesting time because I want to

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Speaker 1: put you into the context of where we were a

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Speaker 1: year ago Thanksgiving, the last Thanksgiving. So Charlie and I

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Speaker 1: were down in Florida and we were spending a lot

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Speaker 1: of time at mar A Lago. It was the transition period.

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Speaker 1: So it just picture it right the context. Trump has

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Speaker 1: just won the election, the MAGA movement is ascendant, won

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Speaker 1: the popular vote, won all the swing states, and you

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Speaker 1: know you're down there, You're seeing you know, Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 1: is coming in and then gets anounced he's going to

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Speaker 1: be Secretary of Defense later Secretary of War. You're seeing

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Speaker 1: so many people come in through the cabinet. You're seeing

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Speaker 1: the incredible work of the Trump team as they go

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Speaker 1: from being the campaign senior staff Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Chunk, Caroline Levitt, everybody you know going through, Taylor Budovich,

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Speaker 1: Dan Scavino had so many names, right, And I apologize

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Speaker 1: for anyone I've met that I may have missed, but

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Speaker 1: it's it was an incredible time, and you know, Charlie

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Speaker 1: was on top of the world. He was absolutely on

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Speaker 1: top of the world. Who does he want to be

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Speaker 1: in the next government? Elon, of course, is all over

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Speaker 1: and a lot of late nights just sitting out with

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Speaker 1: Elon on the terrace at mar A Lago chatting. So

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Speaker 1: in the middle of all this, we put together a cause,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're all in great moods, so we put

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Speaker 1: together this Thought Crime Thanksgiving special and Charlie and I

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Speaker 1: for once it was just the two of us in

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Speaker 1: the studio together. And it's just from a personal note,

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Speaker 1: one of my one of my favorite times that we

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Speaker 1: did the show, and probably my favorite episode. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go have to say and it's my favorite episode,

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Speaker 1: and I want to play a clip of that for

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Speaker 1: you right now, because it was not us just agreeing. No,

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Speaker 1: we got into it and I held Charlie's feet to

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Speaker 1: the fire, so by the way, By the way, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to throw my mom under the bus because

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Speaker 1: every single year, and I know she's gonna watch this

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Speaker 1: every single year post that there's like a selection of

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Speaker 1: pumpkin pies that is always available the way it must be.

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Speaker 7: By the way, do you think that pecan pie can

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Speaker 7: also make an appearance?

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Speaker 1: Can be there, but pumpkin and the can pie.

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Speaker 7: I actually prefer more than pumpkin pie. However, I must

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Speaker 7: have a slice of pumpkin pie. Wait, wait, were you

768
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Speaker 7: always like that though when you were little? My mom

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Speaker 7: makes a killer pecan pie, like destroys the world.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what about when I was younger, I was.

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Speaker 7: Always pumpkin But then well, now we're getting into chocolate

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Speaker 7: pecan pie.

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Speaker 1: And that's where you just surrender. You're just done at that.

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Speaker 1: It's just so you throw you throw it because guys,

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Speaker 1: you know, folks that don't know Charlie, you're usually pretty

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Speaker 1: strict with your diet. You're strict. It's like you're usually alone.

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Speaker 7: Thanksgiving is different Thanksgiving all in.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's us one year ago. That's me and

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Speaker 1: Charlie in studio, and uh, you know, I gotta say,

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Speaker 1: just look, no, hate for pea campie. All right, I

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Speaker 1: like pea campie. I'm not against pea campie, but it's

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Speaker 1: not better than pumpkin, all right, It's just not better

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Speaker 1: than pumpkin. But to his credit, Charlie did admit that

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Speaker 1: pumpkin pie is required for Thanksgiving. And in fact, we

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Speaker 1: put together and if you guys want to go watch

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Speaker 1: the episode, it's up on on Charlie Kirk's podcast, and

787
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Speaker 1: you can get it on Human Events Daily as well.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be re airing a lot of this. We

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Speaker 1: put together Charlie Kirk's entire Thanksgiving menu, and so I want,

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Speaker 1: I want everyone to go and check that out. So

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00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: it's got you know, turkey is required, Turkey with gravy stuffing,

792
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: and he gives out an entire recipe for stuffing, Cranberry's

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Speaker 1: straight from the can, no alterations, by the way to

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Speaker 1: the can, sweet potatoes, but no marshmallows. Charlie believed that

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00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: marshmallows were kind of a new age thing and they're

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Speaker 1: not really part of it. And then yes, you cap

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Speaker 1: it all off with that commandment, and what he said

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Speaker 1: was the first commandment of Thanksgiving, thou shalt have pumpkin pie,

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Speaker 1: great dinner, great meal. I didn't know that. I remember

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Speaker 1: going into the episode. I don't even think we were

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Speaker 1: planning to talk about Thanksgiving or maybe just we were

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Speaker 1: going to talk about like what we did. And I

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00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: had no idea that Thanksgiving was such an important holiday

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Speaker 1: for Charlie and something that he took so incredibly seriously.

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Speaker 1: But it was cool to see that this really was

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Speaker 1: a big holiday for him. And you know, I'll just

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Speaker 1: say this that, you know, you saw that video of

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Speaker 1: him talking about his mom making such a what he said,

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00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: a killer pea campie, and I hope that she's making

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Speaker 1: it again this year and that she continues to serve

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Speaker 1: it because it was her son's favorite favorite pie. But

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00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: you got to also have the pumpkin pie as well.

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Speaker 1: Can't break the first commandment of Thanksgiving. So I know

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Speaker 1: that all of us are going to be thinking about

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Speaker 1: Charlie a lot during the holidays, and what can I say,

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00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: it is kind of hitting me a little more. I

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00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: do also have, oh it's over there, the new book.

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00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: So this is a copy of the new book that

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Speaker 1: Charlie is going to be putting out comes out December ninth.

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Speaker 1: I want to give some promo. It's called Stop in

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Speaker 1: the Name of God. It's about how Charlie would take

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Speaker 1: one day a week off of social media and focus

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Speaker 1: on family, focus on God, focus on reading. So taking

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Speaker 1: that one day off Stopping the Name of God. And

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Speaker 1: the forward is done by Erica Kirk. So got my copy? Really,

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Speaker 1: I really want to say thank you to everybody for

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Speaker 1: getting the early copy of this. We're going to be

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Speaker 1: check it out this weekend, of course over Thanksgiving, and

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Speaker 1: if you guys want to get a copy of it

830
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: as well, you guys can go ahead and pre order

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Speaker 1: that right now. And you know, from the Posto family

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Speaker 1: to all of yours, have a happy Thanksgiving. Think of

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00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: what you're thankful for. Be thankful for the things that

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Speaker 1: you have, because you could lose them in an instant.

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Speaker 1: And I'll just say this, folks that for this Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: at our table, we're going to be leaving a chair

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Speaker 1: empty for Charlie as a reminder, not that he's gone,

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00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: but a reminder that he's with us, celebrating Thanksgiving up

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Speaker 1: in heaven with Rush and all the heroes, because that's

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Speaker 1: where Charlie is right now. Ladies and gentlemen, as always,

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Speaker 1: you have my permission to lay shore