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Speaker 1: Now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: Welcome to a fabulous football flannel Thursday. Here Shots Hi
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Speaker 3: ready to go.
Speaker 1: I mean that particular chore that you do.
Speaker 4: Know.
Speaker 1: You guys woke up this morning, but it was thirty
Speaker 1: seven degrees okay, and there was frost down the punkin.
Speaker 2: Oh wow? So for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys lived down south?
Speaker 2: Yeah, down south.
Speaker 3: So Mickey came in with this plannel underwear on his
Speaker 3: panel shirt. Just got back from a concert.
Speaker 1: Pretty style.
Speaker 5: He was sweeping leaves, That's what he was doing. You
Speaker 5: swept leaves this morning?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: What's about? What do you?
Speaker 1: What do you got on?
Speaker 3: He's got his.
Speaker 2: He just came from the gym the day.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: Is that your fla you use when you're right? You know?
Speaker 2: Does that inspire you cross more than that shirt? What
Speaker 2: do you got? He gets his.
Speaker 3: Mickey goes to his cabin and gets his quill out.
Speaker 1: They can smell fresh caves, you guys are asking for.
Speaker 1: I've got four more. I just start wearing them every day.
Speaker 5: Okay, man, that would be cool because that's the first
Speaker 5: thing I saw when I walked in here, all of
Speaker 5: this visual about.
Speaker 2: Wow, man, nice shirt.
Speaker 1: I got a few more that I'll stand out, all right,
Speaker 1: that's cool.
Speaker 2: Looks.
Speaker 1: I think I got one for tomorrow. And the urdy
Speaker 1: colors black and gold.
Speaker 2: That's cool. I want to see some unique flannel stuff,
Speaker 2: that's right. All right.
Speaker 3: Well, it's already been a busy day as Mike McCarthy
Speaker 3: had his press conference just moments ago. I'm looking at
Speaker 3: the NFL network right now and they're doing a discussion
Speaker 3: of Mike McCarthy's press conference on Monday, when the sun
Speaker 3: was shining on us.
Speaker 2: Nobody have to pull the curtain.
Speaker 1: Nobody in TV had a shade with him that day.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, I know that somebody.
Speaker 2: What is it.
Speaker 3: So makey shine the light on what Mike McCarthy had
Speaker 3: to say today.
Speaker 1: Well, when he was talking about guys here on this
Speaker 1: extensive injury report, he wanted to point out that it
Speaker 1: was a walk through practice, so when anybody showed up
Speaker 1: as full, it's like, don't get too far ahead of yourself,
Speaker 1: although Jerry surely did. On Doran Bland when they asked,
Speaker 1: what is your confidence that he'll be able to play,
Speaker 1: he said, yes, I do so he thinks the lands.
Speaker 2: Ready to go, so he ready to go. But mcar no,
Speaker 2: he didn't.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 3: Carthy is noncommittal until he sees him practice. Yes, because
Speaker 3: they didn't practice yesterday, because.
Speaker 1: He wants them to go through a real practice.
Speaker 2: Another y thing.
Speaker 1: Another well, but then there was questions about Zach Martin
Speaker 1: and Tyler Smith to McCarthy that they did not practice,
Speaker 1: and he said, well, uh, we only had a walk
Speaker 1: through so it wasn't like a big practice. So doing
Speaker 1: probably the best they can to keep them off their feet, uh,
Speaker 1: and see what they can do by Saturday. So that's
Speaker 1: kind of the outlook there. Somebody was getting really excited
Speaker 1: about tumadoga practicing and he kind of squashed. He said,
Speaker 1: it was a walkthrough, and I'm thinking, in the back
Speaker 1: of my mind, oh, if it gets to that.
Speaker 3: I try, that's when you were going to walk out right?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that was that was I think that was
Speaker 1: in the walk off, So no, but time I told you,
Speaker 1: if he has yeah.
Speaker 3: If it comes to that, you're walking out of this studio.
Speaker 1: Well you know what if they have if they have
Speaker 1: like three guys not able to play, and he can
Speaker 1: put a uniform on, he might have to go out there.
Speaker 1: He may still have to go out there as a
Speaker 1: backup if it's tough for him to put the uniform
Speaker 1: because as we talked yesterday, if if you know one
Speaker 1: more injury in the game, who is going to play?
Speaker 1: That was the defensive line, Well, if two of them
Speaker 1: can't go, he might need to be active.
Speaker 3: Did anyone ask Mike McCarthy that scenario.
Speaker 1: I was going to do it, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do it for everybody else to hear I meant
Speaker 1: like in the walk off, No, no one did, so
Speaker 1: I kept my mouth shut. Is this hoping I could
Speaker 1: run into somebody that can answer that question for me.
Speaker 3: By the way, this is a big day for a
Speaker 3: birthday today. You know whose birthday it is?
Speaker 2: Today?
Speaker 1: Today's November first, twenty First, I.
Speaker 3: Do no, it's quarterback Dan Nope, Troy yep. And there's
Speaker 3: another one. Oh really, Cooper Rush's birthday is Oh wow,
Speaker 3: Troy and Cooper same birthday. Troy fifty eight years old
Speaker 3: today and Cooper Rush is thirty one years old today.
Speaker 2: Nice fifty eight. I thought you were going to say
Speaker 2: he doesn't look it.
Speaker 1: Oh, no, I didn't. I had I was just thinking
Speaker 1: of fifty eight. I was trying to I think when
Speaker 1: I processing when I first met him, it was eighty nine,
Speaker 1: and he was what twenty one, twenty three, he was
Speaker 1: a little older than Yeah, when did you meet him
Speaker 1: eighty nine?
Speaker 4: I mean what well they had when the press conference,
Speaker 4: when he distracted you, when he was actually blackly when
Speaker 4: he Yeah, I kept remember if they were bringing them
Speaker 4: in the day of the draft, they probably did.
Speaker 2: Did you know that the first players to meet Troy
Speaker 2: you were?
Speaker 1: I was you welcomed him? I did to the ranch, I.
Speaker 2: Know to we went foozies uh and off McKinny. Is
Speaker 2: it still there?
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: So. Drink it started with an S.
Speaker 1: Was the famous drink? They had a famous drink? Where
Speaker 1: was McKinney Okay? And so Jerry, Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's still there.
Speaker 7: So was this after he was drafted? Orf he was drafted.
Speaker 7: I believe it was after he was drafted. I was
Speaker 7: a captain of the team at that time, and Jerry,
Speaker 7: his wife Lee Steinberg. Everybody was there. I want to
Speaker 7: say everybody. I mean, like the close people.
Speaker 3: So Jerry wanted to get a captain who enjoyed fraternizing.
Speaker 2: And I don't know why they invited me.
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, sure, I said, maybe you're gonna
Speaker 5: go get some foodsy She's like yeah, because we hung
Speaker 5: out out there all the time, and so I don't
Speaker 5: know why they chose that place, but we were there
Speaker 5: and I met him and I told him. I remember
Speaker 5: the words I said was, I said, so where you
Speaker 5: think about the new owner? And he goes, oh, man,
Speaker 5: he's a lot. I think that was his statement, was
Speaker 5: he's kind of a lot. He's a little extra. And
Speaker 5: I said, well that's okay, man. I said, he loves you,
Speaker 5: and I said he's going to take care of you.
Speaker 5: That's what I said, He is going to take care
Speaker 5: of you. So you just be ready to lead this team.
Speaker 5: I think that was basically all we said to each other.
Speaker 5: And you know, he had snuffing, you know whatever.
Speaker 3: He had Oklahoma right, but he still had Henryette Oklahoma
Speaker 3: in his lip.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing though, then you know Lee Steinberg,
Speaker 5: He's got it in his mouth, and you know, he
Speaker 5: was just doing it because Troy was doing it. And
Speaker 5: I'll never forget that. Like Lee couldn't even he couldn't
Speaker 5: even use the cup, right, Yeah, you know. So we
Speaker 5: sat there, you know, Jerry and my wife were talking
Speaker 5: and we just everybody was just around there talking.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever told that story. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I was like the I was the first teammate
Speaker 5: that Troy Aikman met.
Speaker 1: Do you know who Steinberg's first client was, No, you, No, No,
Speaker 1: Steve Young, No, Steve is right, Steve Pellure, Steve it
Speaker 1: was nineteen seventy five.
Speaker 3: Oh, ninetevent five, a quarterback, Yes, Steve Markowski.
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, I think he was the first pick, yeah,
Speaker 1: first or yeah, that was his first yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then he went from there ended up with Troy. As
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I was in New York City
Speaker 1: for the NFL for the NFL meeting. He didn't talk
Speaker 1: to you when you were on.
Speaker 3: The team because he kept intercepting him in practice.
Speaker 2: He had stuff to do. It was important, man.
Speaker 1: I was in New York City for the NFL meeting
Speaker 1: to confirm Jerry as the owner, and that day they
Speaker 1: Steinberg came to agreement with the Cowboys to sign Troy.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 1: When he showed up the first day at training camp,
Speaker 1: myself and I think it was Edward or we were
Speaker 1: standing out in front of the gym where John Wooden
Speaker 1: would have his basketball camp or whatever, waiting for Troy
Speaker 1: to come because he knew we were going to talk
Speaker 1: to him. And he shows up in a beat up
Speaker 1: pickup truck, right, and he's dressed in those those the
Speaker 1: great sweats that you would buy flannel shirt, the gray
Speaker 1: sweats that you would buy at a supermarket or whatever.
Speaker 2: Right, and I'm going, then we used to wear.
Speaker 1: This guy just signed what nine million dollars guaranteed contract
Speaker 1: and he just kind of shows up like he was
Speaker 1: from Henrietta, Oklahoma. It was pretty funny back.
Speaker 2: In the day.
Speaker 5: Man, we don't know what we were thinking. We had
Speaker 5: the half shirts going and you couldn't tell. Yeah they
Speaker 5: were they weren't just torn.
Speaker 1: They would designed that have overalls too.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't do that. I think I did have
Speaker 2: some of it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I had one that was the dress.
Speaker 3: You were the half shirt t shirts when you.
Speaker 5: Were No, I just want in practice. No I didn't
Speaker 5: wear that stuff out in the street.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm saying in practice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, just in practice.
Speaker 3: But I did do yeah, wear practice MacArthur. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: the practiced in high school. And then I had regular
Speaker 3: T shirts that turned into half T shirts later in life.
Speaker 2: If you kept them long enough, Yes.
Speaker 3: Because your belly got so big the half T shirts
Speaker 3: it would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that one. Yeah all right.
Speaker 3: So ever since got another engagement that he needs to get.
Speaker 2: To fifty steps away.
Speaker 3: Twelve twenty five.
Speaker 2: So here's what we're going. Here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 3: We want to get as much production. We want to
Speaker 3: get as much production as we can out of Everson
Speaker 3: in a limited time.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have you read. Yeah, so how are.
Speaker 3: We going to do this then? Because we got to
Speaker 3: get a read out of you. I was gonna take
Speaker 3: it all the way.
Speaker 1: Well the last thing he does before he leaves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so.
Speaker 3: We're going to do the read before the break now, No,
Speaker 3: like when we go to break or what I was
Speaker 3: thinking is we'll just do a longer first segment. We'll
Speaker 3: go all the way to twelve twenty five, then you
Speaker 3: and then you do the read, and then you're dismissed.
Speaker 1: Because by god, if you don't do the read, I don't.
Speaker 3: Know that right exactly, all right, So we need to
Speaker 3: get Everson talking about this, Washington.
Speaker 1: So your impressions of Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 5: You know, I think he's ahead of most rookies that
Speaker 5: have come out and quite some time. This is not
Speaker 5: a fluke what he's doing. Even though he's going against
Speaker 5: what we talked about some of the lesser teams in
Speaker 5: the league. He's still a college quarterback throwing against professional
Speaker 5: ball players, and he's completing his passes. Take out the
Speaker 5: Hail Mary, Hail Mary's it has a lot to do
Speaker 5: with a whole lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: Take that out.
Speaker 5: He's still shown to be an extremely good quarterback, especially
Speaker 5: for his age. And of course, you know, you got
Speaker 5: my boy Doug Williams there, and Doug Williams extremely proud
Speaker 5: of him. Of course, being in a black quarterback from HBCU,
Speaker 5: Doug Williams from Louisiana and then here's Jade and Daniels
Speaker 5: played the LSU black quarterback. They've really got a nice
Speaker 5: little connection going there. And when you have somebody like that,
Speaker 5: a mentor like Doug Williams that can help out a
Speaker 5: young man like Daniels.
Speaker 2: I think he's still twenty one.
Speaker 1: Years old, No, got to be more than that.
Speaker 2: He's more than twenty one.
Speaker 1: I mean he spent three stage.
Speaker 2: That may have a lot to do with the showing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he has played.
Speaker 3: Well, he's twenty three. He turns twenty four next month.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 5: Nice, So what you have is, you know a guy
Speaker 5: that's the He's the opposite of.
Speaker 2: Trey Lance exactly.
Speaker 5: He's gotten a lot of playing time, a lot of
Speaker 5: experience going against some really good defensive backs in the SEC,
Speaker 5: while quarterback in the LSU, and of course coming here
Speaker 5: to the NFC East, he's really shown that he's not
Speaker 5: there yet. Of course he's not there yet, but as
Speaker 5: far as a rookie's concerned, he's ahead of the curve.
Speaker 1: Sue McCarthy keeps talking about him and says he one
Speaker 1: of the things he's point pointed out twice this week
Speaker 1: is that he's played a lot of football. And you know,
Speaker 1: McCarthy's a big proponent of college quarterback staying there as
Speaker 1: long as they can.
Speaker 5: Here's the problem with with Daniels, that's he's he's to
Speaker 5: me a Lamar Jackson without the throwing difficulties when he
Speaker 5: first came out of college. I think he's a very
Speaker 5: patented quarterback. I think he's got it going on. I
Speaker 5: think he's very accurate. His throwing motion, his his mechanics,
Speaker 5: all of that is there. Now, it's just a matter
Speaker 5: of him putting it together as a professional. He hadn't
Speaker 5: done that yet. But the danger that he is the
Speaker 5: most dangerous. He's the most dangerous when he's completing passes
Speaker 5: and he's running out.
Speaker 2: Of the pocket. That is going to be a major problem.
Speaker 5: You think your boy in San Francisco was a problem,
Speaker 5: this guy is going to be a problem.
Speaker 2: When it comes to running the football. I saw him,
Speaker 2: We saw him in college.
Speaker 5: This guy's running fifty sixty yards some.
Speaker 3: Of the passes he threw too. But I was like,
Speaker 3: this is like a video game. It is what I'm
Speaker 3: seeing here.
Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that he's improved on from
Speaker 1: his first year at LSU was that at the first
Speaker 1: sight of danger, he would take off. Now he's kind
Speaker 1: of hanging in the pocket. He's scrambling to throw right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not scrambling and.
Speaker 5: Then that when Lamar Jackson started to perfect history in motion, right,
Speaker 5: that's what made him more difficult. Instead of him scrambling
Speaker 5: to run, he as he got better, he's scrambling and
Speaker 5: setting up his own pass. And of course he's done that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I remarkably, I remember last year when LSU played Missouri
Speaker 1: and it was a close game and they got to
Speaker 1: a point and I don't know, they had just crossed
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line or something, and it was either
Speaker 1: third and long or fourth, and I'm yelling at the TV.
Speaker 1: He's going to run the football, do not worry about coverage.
Speaker 1: And he ran forty five yards for a touchdown.
Speaker 2: Here sounds better than he passes.
Speaker 5: And that's saying a lot for someone who passes as
Speaker 5: well as.
Speaker 3: Right, exactly, all right, here's an example of that. Just okay.
Speaker 3: He was at Arizona State for three years, and one
Speaker 3: of those years he was injured and only played four games.
Speaker 3: So two plus years as a starting quarterback at Arizona
Speaker 3: State and then two years at LSU. His first year
Speaker 3: at LSU fourteen games, they went ten and four. In
Speaker 3: his starts, he threw the ball three hundred eighty eight
Speaker 3: times and he ran it one hundred eighty six times
Speaker 3: his second year there. They were so efficient. Okay, well,
Speaker 3: he had two fewer games. He was nine and three
Speaker 3: as a starter, but three hundred and twenty seven attempts
Speaker 3: against one hundred and thirty five rushes. And look at
Speaker 3: these numbers here. He had his first year at LSU
Speaker 3: seventeen touchdowns and three interceptions, and his second year forty
Speaker 3: touchdowns and two fewer starts forty touchdowns and four interceptions.
Speaker 3: Now you look at him this year in the NFL,
Speaker 3: he's only thrown three interceptions this year.
Speaker 2: Wow, they Washington.
Speaker 3: Washington leads the league in fewest giveaways off with a rookie.
Speaker 3: They've got a rookie quarterback. He's thrown three interceptions in
Speaker 3: ten games and they've only lost two fumbles. The improvement
Speaker 3: that Washington has made on offense. In seventeen games last year,
Speaker 3: they had thirty two giveaways on offense in ten games.
Speaker 3: This year they've got five. Now boys had five in
Speaker 3: two different home games.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, what.
Speaker 2: You what you see with him?
Speaker 5: He could throw more, but I think he's being deliberately
Speaker 5: cautious because of you know what what Dan Quinn wants.
Speaker 5: Few with the few would turnovers the better and then
Speaker 5: let my defense give you another chance.
Speaker 3: And he's just got ten touchdown passes. That's one game.
Speaker 2: He's been very careful.
Speaker 5: He's been very he's been very careful, and you know,
Speaker 5: but he's playing within the system.
Speaker 2: They're letting the defense play for them.
Speaker 1: I noticed. So I went to the David O'Brien Award
Speaker 1: last year when he won the award fort Worth, and
Speaker 1: he was pretty sharp because when he did interviews, he
Speaker 1: had already learned say a lot, but say less, right,
Speaker 1: and he just was very short with his answers, and
Speaker 1: I'm going, okay, somebody might have I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's shy or somebody worked with him, but I was
Speaker 1: kind of impressed on how he handled himself and basically
Speaker 1: going on of his way to congratulate the rest of
Speaker 1: the guys on the team. It wasn't all me.
Speaker 5: Well, you know you the better quarterbacks, most quarterbacks you
Speaker 5: get in the first round these days, they know better. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and he stepped right into that mode better than anybody.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys defense got a handful.
Speaker 5: Well they do, but but as long as they keep
Speaker 5: playing solid, he's you allow him. Sorry, you don't allow
Speaker 5: him to really get on a streak. He hadn't really
Speaker 5: gotten on that streak yet. And if we can cover
Speaker 5: his wide receivers, then we're going to make him pull
Speaker 5: that ball down, you know, because he does not want
Speaker 5: to commit those turnovers, so we get if we start
Speaker 5: to get turnovers, I think that's gonna shake him up
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 2: Even if we just getting.
Speaker 5: An interception, that's something that he's not going to be
Speaker 5: accustomed to. But playing at home, they're gonna be riding
Speaker 5: high guys, they're gonna be riting some cowboys, cowboys, the
Speaker 5: wounded cowboys, taking a chance to pick on us like
Speaker 5: everybody else is. Unless we come back with some more
Speaker 5: personnel that can show us up a little bit, then
Speaker 5: we're gonna have the there's gonna be status quo for
Speaker 5: us going into so I guess yep.
Speaker 3: So Jade Daniels has run for four hundred and eighty
Speaker 3: two yards this season. That's five point two yards of
Speaker 3: carry on ninety two carries with four touchdowns. Cowboys leading
Speaker 3: Russier Rico Dowdell has four hundred two yards rushing well
Speaker 3: and no touch Think about on ninety three so Dwdell
Speaker 3: has ninety three carries for four hundred two yards. Daniels
Speaker 3: has ninety two carries for four hundred and eighty two yards.
Speaker 3: That's their just their quarterback, and think they're not even
Speaker 3: taking consideration Brian Robinson or Mickey's favorite Anglo American running back,
Speaker 3: Austin Xler.
Speaker 1: You know what, one of these days.
Speaker 2: You're still talking about that.
Speaker 1: At one of these days.
Speaker 5: The black women at the house, and I'm like, what
Speaker 5: is bags talking about.
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit my breaking point at one point, and
Speaker 1: I don't think you want to see that happen. You're right,
Speaker 1: I don't want to when.
Speaker 5: You start talking about this familing ability and the improvisation
Speaker 5: of McDaniels.
Speaker 2: You who Daniels? So you have to.
Speaker 1: I thought you said, can't imagine you have to make
Speaker 1: a mistake.
Speaker 2: You got me, You got me. But the defense gotta
Speaker 2: be smart.
Speaker 5: They be because a player like that can goat you
Speaker 5: and goat you and bait you and bait you into
Speaker 5: things that you don't necessarily do. The players have to
Speaker 5: be smart in you andison on defense.
Speaker 2: You can't have one guy.
Speaker 5: Doing one thing, another guy doing one another thing coming
Speaker 5: up on the quarterback, leaving somebody wide open behind you,
Speaker 5: who might run for catch, catching, run for forty yards?
Speaker 3: All right, Ever, soon I got one more nugget for
Speaker 3: you before you leave, all right? The uh. The dan
Speaker 3: Quinn's Falcons met Mike McCarthy's Packers in the NFC Championship
Speaker 3: Game in twenty sixteen. Falcons won forty four to twenty one.
Speaker 3: They went on to the Super Bowl and blew the
Speaker 3: twenty eight to three lead to the Patriots. Right, okay,
Speaker 3: how many Mickey, you can join in on this. How
Speaker 3: many current head coaches in the National Football League were
Speaker 3: on dan Quinn's coaching staff in twenty sixteen with the Falcons.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all the assistance there there were five.
Speaker 3: There are five.
Speaker 2: Current on the Falcons alone.
Speaker 3: On the Falcons coaching staff in twenty sixteen under dan Quinn,
Speaker 3: five current head coaches were on that coaching staff, starting
Speaker 3: with the offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan, the quarterbacks coach Matt
Speaker 3: Lafleur is now the Packers head coach, offensive assistant Mike McDaniel,
Speaker 3: the Dolphin coach now assistant head coach Raheem Morris, who's
Speaker 3: now the Falcons head coaches, and their linebackers coach was
Speaker 3: Jeff Olbrick, who is now the interim head coach of
Speaker 3: the New York Jets. They also had.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see.
Speaker 3: So there are five head coaches current head coaches, and
Speaker 3: then two coordinators in the league. The coaching intern on
Speaker 3: that staff was Adam Dirty, who's now the defensive coordinator
Speaker 3: of the Seattle Seahawks. And it was here, yes, and
Speaker 3: then an offensive assistant was Mike Lafleur, Matt's brother, who
Speaker 3: is the offensive coordinator of the Rams. Now how about
Speaker 3: that for a coaching staff. Now you've got to go.
Speaker 3: Is that your alarm and you're picking the Cowboys to win?
Speaker 5: I'm picking the Cowboys too. I put it like this,
Speaker 5: If the Cowboys are going to win, this is what.
Speaker 2: They have to do.
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, let's do it like that. They're going
Speaker 5: to have to pay play smart on defense. The secondary
Speaker 5: is gonna have to play our safety. I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 5: begging for Donovan Wilson to have a good game because
Speaker 5: if he has a good game, we can stop a
Speaker 5: lot of touchdowns.
Speaker 2: We could.
Speaker 5: If we're gonna win this game, it'll have to be
Speaker 5: twenty five, No, make that twenty.
Speaker 2: Seven, twenty seven twenty seven.
Speaker 5: Man, we can stop messing up on If we can
Speaker 5: stop screwing ourselves, we can score some points. So let's
Speaker 5: say we go in here and we play a better
Speaker 5: game mentally than we've ever played.
Speaker 2: Twenty seven to twenty.
Speaker 5: Hold Daniels down, make him confused, play some good one
Speaker 5: on one in the secondary. Twenty seven to twenty, and
Speaker 5: I'm looking at Donovan Wilson to finally come to play
Speaker 5: in a football.
Speaker 2: Game, you know.
Speaker 3: And the Cowboys Mike Zimmer's defense has more interceptions this
Speaker 3: season than Dan In and Jill Whitt juniors.
Speaker 2: Not what I thought. I would never have thought.
Speaker 1: What about sacks.
Speaker 3: Twenty four for Dallas and twenty nine for.
Speaker 1: That's all they got?
Speaker 3: No, wait a second, I may have that wrong. Let's see.
Speaker 2: I'm out.
Speaker 3: Okay, you're out. Yeah, twenty nine for watching.
Speaker 1: It take you four minutes to walk up the stairs.
Speaker 2: You don't want to do the he's a double booker.
Speaker 3: Did the read out right?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 2: For the break?
Speaker 3: Before the break?
Speaker 2: You're doing the reading now? Okay, all right, I got
Speaker 2: the right one.
Speaker 5: Thursday, RKKO Cowboys Nation, It's time to get the giving
Speaker 5: season going.
Speaker 2: Tune in to see.
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Speaker 3: media and I saw this Mickey Spagnola from the Giants practice.
Speaker 3: And of course one week from today, the Cowboys are
Speaker 3: facing the Giants on Thanksgiving Day?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna buy this week?
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones spent part of the open portion of practice
Speaker 3: today wearing a red Scout team jersey, lined up at
Speaker 3: safety during an offensive install period. He was joined on
Speaker 3: the Scout team d by some practice squad offensive lineman
Speaker 3: and some assistant coaches. Now, yes, yep, Daniel Jones is
Speaker 3: now relegated to scout team safety for the Giants.
Speaker 1: I think I read that he wasn't going to be
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right because they cannot take the risk of activating his
Speaker 3: twenty three million dollars guarantee for next season by getting hurt.
Speaker 3: So he's inactive, right, he'll be because they also signed
Speaker 3: Tim Boyle this week, so they've got these fourth team
Speaker 3: quarterback on their run.
Speaker 1: So he won't even be the inactive third quarterback.
Speaker 3: Maybe no, he may not even make the trip.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Who do they play?
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not even sure who they're playing.
Speaker 1: They're playing a home game, I believe. Oh, okay, yeah
Speaker 1: they play.
Speaker 3: But while you're looking it up, they get So the
Speaker 3: starter's Tommy DeVito, and they got Drew Locke, and they
Speaker 3: just signed Tim Boyle to the practice squad, and so
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is number four on the depth chart right now.
Speaker 1: They're trying to save money because this was his last
Speaker 1: year of guaranteed money if I remember.
Speaker 3: Correct, right, and if they have there's a bonus that
Speaker 3: would get activated in March. If he's hurt, then this
Speaker 3: is on the hook for it, Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: This is another example of when you see a total
Speaker 1: amount for a quarterback. It's not always the total amount,
Speaker 1: it's you've got to look at where the guarantees run out.
Speaker 1: And so this will be the second time the Cowboys
Speaker 1: played Tommy DeVito. They played last year last year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how about just just look at the and
Speaker 3: we've said this even going into the season, this schedule
Speaker 3: that the Cowboys had from late September until basically since
Speaker 3: the last time they faced the Giants in the Thursday
Speaker 3: night game up there you're looking at. They played at Pittsburgh,
Speaker 3: which is a first place team. They played Detroit, a
Speaker 3: first place team, was probably the best team in the league.
Speaker 3: They after a bye week, played at San Francisco, which
Speaker 3: was a super Bowl team last year. Now they're five
Speaker 3: and five right now. Then at Atlanta, a first place team,
Speaker 3: home against Philadelphia, a first place team, and now on
Speaker 3: the road, well Houston at home the first place team,
Speaker 3: and now at Washington, which spent much of the season
Speaker 3: in first place. The only reason they're not in first
Speaker 3: place is because Philadelphia is in first place.
Speaker 1: And Philadelphia beat them and they're seven and four Washington,
Speaker 1: but they're in that's the second place.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But that's the stretch that the Cowboys are and
Speaker 3: then the Giants come here next week. So the Giants bookend.
Speaker 3: This is a six game stretch. It is a six
Speaker 3: or seven game stretch seven ninth Yeah, seven games stretch. Lost, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and they won. They beat Pittsburgh in five straight losses
Speaker 3: and now Washington. So it's seven game stretch in the
Speaker 3: middle of the season where there aren't a lot of
Speaker 3: teams in the league. And this is no excuses for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, but there aren't a lot of teams in
Speaker 3: the league that are going better than five are going
Speaker 3: four and three and against that schedule.
Speaker 1: But this is, as I pointed out yesterday, the price
Speaker 1: you pay for winning the division and not capitalizing on
Speaker 1: that success in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And the difference on that there are three teams in
Speaker 3: this stretch that the Cowboys played because they finished in
Speaker 3: first place last year. That's Detroit, San Francisco, and Houston.
Speaker 1: Right, and Washington finishing in last place. Ended up with Arizona,
Speaker 1: Tennessee and Chicago.
Speaker 3: Now, as it turns out, Arizona's got a decent tea.
Speaker 1: When they played am Arizona was one and two. No,
Speaker 1: there you go, And so yeah, that's that's the significant difference.
Speaker 1: It was Arizona and who Tennessee and then who in
Speaker 1: Chicago in Chicago, which was a hail Mary, right, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, if they don't, if Jaden Daniels doesn't
Speaker 1: complete the Hail Mary, they're six and five and people
Speaker 1: aren't talking about.
Speaker 3: And would would that be three three out of four?
Speaker 3: The Giant they played the Giant. They beat the Giants
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty two in the middle of that.
Speaker 1: So part of their their their victories. They've got to
Speaker 1: play the Giants already twice.
Speaker 3: A twenty seven two win and a twenty one to
Speaker 3: eighteen win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, And they've gotten to play Cincinnati losing record,
Speaker 1: Cleveland losing record, Carolina losing record, Chicago losing record.
Speaker 3: Their best win of the year is the ARIZONAA. They
Speaker 3: beat Arizona out there forty two to fourteen, right in
Speaker 3: the fourth game of the season.
Speaker 1: And they lost to Tampa Bay the season opener. So
Speaker 1: look where Washington was last year at this time. The
Speaker 1: fact that they've turned it around in seven and four,
Speaker 1: and I don't care you know who they've beaten, it's
Speaker 1: pretty miraculous turnaround. Now we'll see if it sticks because
Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Well, after after Dallas, which
Speaker 1: is a losing record, they played Tennessee losing record, New
Speaker 1: Orleans losing record, and then they have Philadelphia, Atlanta and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys again.
Speaker 3: Well, as we all know, one of the biggest factors
Speaker 3: is staying healthy, right and they've been able for the
Speaker 3: most part to stay healthy this season, and so it's
Speaker 3: been a great year for them in terms of health.
Speaker 3: Right now, they're missing Jonathan Alleno as a torn peck,
Speaker 3: but so that's one big guy they're missing in their
Speaker 3: defensive line. But as it turned out, they drafted in
Speaker 3: the second round Johnny Newton, who's filling in. You know,
Speaker 3: he was the thirty sixth pick in the draft, and
Speaker 3: he is healthy and he's lining up next to Deron
Speaker 3: Payn inside on their defense. But you look at their
Speaker 3: offensive line and they for the most part, they have
Speaker 3: been healthy all year. They were planning to split left
Speaker 3: tackle reps between Cornelius Lucas and Brandon Coleman all year.
Speaker 3: Lucas got hurt for a couple of games, but it
Speaker 3: was going to be Brandon Coleman's job eventually, and he's
Speaker 3: made six starts there. But Nick Alligretti at left guard
Speaker 3: has started every game, Tyler Biattish at center has started
Speaker 3: every game. Sam cosme Me at right guard has started
Speaker 3: every game, and Andrew Wiley at right tackle has started
Speaker 3: all but one game. And so they're healthy on their
Speaker 3: offensive line, although it's not the greatest offensive line in fact,
Speaker 3: Brandon Coleman a guy that I was touting out of
Speaker 3: TCU as a third round draft pick sixty seventh overall.
Speaker 3: I mean, he had his struggles last week against it Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was last week against Philadelphia. He struggled. It might
Speaker 3: be a guy you want to line mic up over
Speaker 3: there and see what he can do.
Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty ironic that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of folks talking about how well Tyler Biattish is playing,
Speaker 1: and it's like he played well last year, but he
Speaker 1: got picked on because he wasn't perfect, right, and then
Speaker 1: they pay him a whole bunch of money, and the
Speaker 1: cowboyers are like, Okay, we just have to move on.
Speaker 3: And it was a three year, thirty million dollar deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, and the same thing with Armstrong
Speaker 1: and Dante Fowler. They followed the money.
Speaker 3: You know, Armstrong got three years, thirty three million. I
Speaker 3: don't have Fowlers written down here.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't it wasn't that much, but it was
Speaker 1: enough for him to go there and take the money,
Speaker 1: not to try to sign another one year deal here.
Speaker 1: So it's not like the Cowboys were like, well, we
Speaker 1: don't think much of those guys and they're gonna Somebody
Speaker 1: was talking about, well, those guys will be all fired
Speaker 1: up to play the Cowboys because the Cowboys didn't keep them. No,
Speaker 1: they couldn't afford them what they got offered by Washington.
Speaker 3: It's just that simple. Biggest moves that they made and
Speaker 3: I like their draft, but the biggest moves they made
Speaker 3: to improve that team was on defense at linebacker with
Speaker 3: both Bobby Wagner right, who of course knows dan Quinn's
Speaker 3: defense by heart, and Frankie Luvu, who they signed the
Speaker 3: unrestricted free agent from Carolina, which was a three year,
Speaker 3: thirty six million dollar deal, And then they also signed
Speaker 3: from Carolina Jeremy Chin who is a very athletic, big
Speaker 3: safety type who can play linebacker. He is like the
Speaker 3: jy Ron curse in dan Quinn's defense. Sixty three to
Speaker 3: hundred two twenty pounds guy has a forty one vertical
Speaker 3: eleven six broad jump. They also got a corner who's
Speaker 3: playing now playing safety for them, Kwan Martin, second round
Speaker 3: pick last year. He's got a forty four vertical, so
Speaker 3: you've got athletic safeties. And I really like their second
Speaker 3: round pick this year out of Michigan. Who's starting at
Speaker 3: corner number zero for them, Mike Saindrastill, and he's starting.
Speaker 3: He's a smaller corner. He probably projects more as a
Speaker 3: slot guy in the future, but right now he's playing outside.
Speaker 3: They've got a big corner on the other side, Benjamin
Speaker 3: Saint just who was their third round pick in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty one. He's a six to three corner, so they
Speaker 3: got a six to three corner. And then sand Rastill
Speaker 3: is a five to ten guy who is a playmaker
Speaker 3: at Michigan, a huge reason Michigan won the national championship
Speaker 3: last year.
Speaker 1: So if you're trying to throw the ball over Martin's head,
Speaker 1: you better throw it high. He can jump forty four.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Marshawn Lattimore was not practicing.
Speaker 3: Yep, he's hamstring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but didn't he they just was he the one
Speaker 1: they just acquired or he had been there.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, they traded for him. They traded the deadline
Speaker 3: went from New Orleans, all right.
Speaker 1: But he came with a bad hamstring because he wasn't playing.
Speaker 3: But they got for the long haul. Yeah, all right,
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Speaker 3: One other guy I meant failed to mention the who's
Speaker 3: their third corner who gets a lot of snaps? He
Speaker 3: had fifty seven snaps against Philadelphia. It is the former
Speaker 3: Cowboy Noah Igbinoghany. Please, I mean, I mean he's a
Speaker 3: regular in their secondary. So their corners, their three corners
Speaker 3: are Sandra Still, Saint, Just Just and Noah Igbinoghany.
Speaker 1: Couldn't get off the bench here, that's exactly right.
Speaker 3: But but he's a former first round draft pick of
Speaker 3: the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Speaking of corners, if Doron Bland plays and if Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis can get back and play, it'll be the first
Speaker 1: time all three of them been on the field together.
Speaker 1: And did they list Jordan Lewis as limited.
Speaker 3: Okay, and they walked through he was limited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was gonna wear one of the big collar
Speaker 1: things to help his shoulder neck problem. Okay, but those
Speaker 1: guys since they've been here, right, not all three at
Speaker 1: the same time, And we thought it was going to
Speaker 1: happen before the Detroit game. And then his foot cut
Speaker 1: after two practices and hadn't really practiced since then. That's
Speaker 1: a month ago the Detroit game.
Speaker 3: It was Texas ou weekend. It's October fourteenth or so.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's so he's been rehabbing and there was
Speaker 1: a buy in there too, right, right, So he missed
Speaker 1: Detroit and then San Francisco, but six weeks ago Houston.
Speaker 2: Yeah geez.
Speaker 3: But now and so now you're sitting here looking at Okay,
Speaker 3: can't he go now? Or do you give him three
Speaker 3: extra days? Four extra days and go Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Can't he go back to back?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: And we we also talking about the cornerbacks. They sort
Speaker 1: of liked what Amani Owarier was doing and now he's uninjured. Reason,
Speaker 1: so you had Bland there him, Jordan lewis missing. They
Speaker 1: just can't seem it's the same position, cornerback and defensive end.
Speaker 1: That they've suffered, you know, and it's one thing's okay,
Speaker 1: you got to have depth and you gotta have guys
Speaker 1: step up. But you're talking about guys off the practice
Speaker 1: squad that you were hoping we're going to step up.
Speaker 3: You see how many snaps Odegazua and Golston.
Speaker 1: Got I think had a bunch he had, both of
Speaker 1: them did.
Speaker 3: There were sixty four snaps on defense, and Osa had
Speaker 3: fifty seven, was in there for fifty seven sixty four
Speaker 3: for an interior defensive linement. And Chauncey Golston had sixty
Speaker 3: one of the sixty four snaps he was on the field.
Speaker 1: Well, they, I mean, who else are you gonna put out?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: I mean they're they're holding down the fort.
Speaker 1: And then you get worn down by the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: And now you're sitting here six days later playing game
Speaker 3: and then four days later playing a game. So they
Speaker 3: totally but that you're true to your point, that truly
Speaker 3: is a probably a big reason why the Cowboys are
Speaker 3: having issues in the second half of these games, right,
Speaker 3: is just because of the It's it's not the halftime adjustments,
Speaker 3: but it's the lack of bodies, the rotation to you know,
Speaker 3: guys get worn down over time.
Speaker 1: At least Marshawn Neeland was listed as limited in practice
Speaker 1: on the water. They need him back, yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: in his return to practice period, So if not this week,
Speaker 1: maybe next week.
Speaker 2: He can get back.
Speaker 1: But that's another spot we mentioned defensive end. You know,
Speaker 1: I saw Sam Williams sitting in the locker room the
Speaker 1: other day. You forget that they lost him before the
Speaker 1: season ever started. And what Mike has played two games
Speaker 1: now since his injury.
Speaker 3: Lawrence has been a huge.
Speaker 1: And DeMarcus Lawrence, we were kind of chit chatting with
Speaker 1: him yesterday and he says, yeah, I'm coming along, but
Speaker 1: it's it ain't gonna happen before Thanksgiving. So that hope
Speaker 1: is they get them before the end of the season.
Speaker 3: I mean, just again, I just think about it. This
Speaker 3: is great when you're talking about Washington. We're out of
Speaker 3: time here. We can talk about it more tomorrow. But
Speaker 3: the moves that the Cowboys made to offset the losses
Speaker 3: of Drance Armstrong to Washington and Dante Fowler to Washington.
Speaker 3: With Sam Williams was supposed to step up into a
Speaker 3: starting role Formers' second round draft pick, and they draft
Speaker 3: Marshawn Neeland.
Speaker 1: Who'd end up starting before he got hurt.
Speaker 3: And then there was other guys that they brought in,
Speaker 3: but those were the two key guys, and Williams never
Speaker 3: never basically saw a training camp practice, much less a
Speaker 3: regular season game. And then you lose Neelan a month
Speaker 3: into the season.
Speaker 1: And then you lose Parsons after, and.
Speaker 3: Then you lose Parsons over this the most critical stretch
Speaker 3: of the season. These Parsons for five games or whatever
Speaker 3: it was.
Speaker 1: And Lawson was a guy that they tried to bring
Speaker 1: in and he hadn't been with anybody, he hadn't gone
Speaker 1: to training camp with anybody, and like now.
Speaker 3: That Parsons is back and he got the full load. Basically,
Speaker 3: he had sixty one STAPs against Houston. Loston was down
Speaker 3: to fifteen snaps, which is what he should be at.
Speaker 1: And that's what he started off and out then out
Speaker 1: of a necessity, he was playing more.
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