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Speaker 1: Heading into week four, finally get Joe Burrow after a

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Speaker 1: double Where did the nickname Joe Shisty come from? It's

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Speaker 1: so lit? Can I say that? Probably not? Matt Moseley

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are winning with a backup quarterback. The hell's going on?

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Speaker 1: Chad Millman Picks of the week. First, my top takes

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Speaker 1: of the week. Let's start with a Tuah injury. Good news,

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Speaker 1: He's flying back with the team. Obviously there's going to

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Speaker 1: be The NFL Players Association's not happy. It looks bad

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Speaker 1: standalone game, only four days off for Tua to recover

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Speaker 1: from a situation where he got up and wobbled really serious.

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Speaker 1: It looked like injury. Being slammed of the turf. One

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Speaker 1: of the things I first thought when he got slammed

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Speaker 1: a serious medical issue. Is about two or three times

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Speaker 1: a year, and I'm just throwing that number out. During

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Speaker 1: a game, I'll see a player get up and I'll

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Speaker 1: watch him wobble, and you know, to eliminate the doubt

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Speaker 1: and the questions, why not have something called like a

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Speaker 1: wobble rule. If you get up at any point on

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Speaker 1: the field, indecisive struggle with balance, you're out. The next week,

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Speaker 1: you're out. You know. Now a team could manipulate that.

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Speaker 1: Keep players on the field, you know, tell the players

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Speaker 1: never get up. But I see this too often, fairly regularly,

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Speaker 1: that you see players get up like Tua last week

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Speaker 1: against Buffalo and he's you know, he's got an issue

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Speaker 1: above the shoulders. Now the Dolphins say it's a back issue,

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Speaker 1: or it's a it's a it's some other issue. They

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Speaker 1: don't right now their owner is suspended. So within that organization,

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Speaker 1: who makes that call is at the GM, is at

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Speaker 1: the head coach, is at TUA. Players generally fight to play,

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Speaker 1: especially quarterbacks, because they don't get hit like other players.

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Speaker 1: want to play. You saw him last week. He was

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Speaker 1: Chargers against the Jags. He's trying to make a point.

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Speaker 1: I'm tough too. I can take the pain too. I

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Speaker 1: know you guys are in collisions constantly. So the player

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Speaker 1: generally has to be saved from himself. And so the

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Speaker 1: wobble rule put it into effect. Two is flying back

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Speaker 1: who have had success in the NFL, Russell Wilson, fran Tarkington,

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Speaker 1: they can avoid hits, also sometimes run into him, but

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Speaker 1: He was a a Drew Breese comp coming out of college.

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean, everybody's planning some degree, but I

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Speaker 1: Nobody on the staff wants it. But should they be inauthentic.

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Speaker 1: I think it's an okay night. And I think anytime

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Speaker 1: Cooper rush to get you a win. Everybody from the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys is very excited. They did not expect this at all.

427
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Speaker 1: They were ready to go on a losing streak and

428
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Speaker 1: lose every game that Dak was out, and so everything

429
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Speaker 1: that's happening right now, Jerry sort of tried to predict

430
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Speaker 1: this and he said some very very strange things at

431
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Speaker 1: the beginning of this week. But in some weird way,

432
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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has settled everything now and the Cowboys winning

433
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: with this quarterback is sort of has a galvanizing effect

434
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Speaker 1: on the franchise. As crazy as that seems. Now, Giants

435
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: seem kind of horrible and the Cowboys don't seem that

436
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 1: much better, but still to be able to overcome everything

437
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: that happened to them, including Ceedee lamb just you know,

438
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: flatlining in the first half and all of that. I

439
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: think I think the Cowboys feel really good about this win. Yeah, listen,

440
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: I always felt. I was talking to Sean Payton today,

441
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: if a backup, if he misses, your starter misses four games,

442
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: if you can win two and then and then they

443
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: find film on him. It's like Kyle Allen can fool

444
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: you for a few games, then you get film, you know,

445
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: as limitations, but Cooper Rush I think is one three

446
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Speaker 1: straight Cowboys starts. I mean, he's not Dak, although I

447
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: would say the gap between the two, it's not as

448
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: large as the Dak fans want you to believe. Dak's better.

449
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: He's a better athlete, he's stronger. I will, and I

450
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: will say this is that you can't listen. Brian Dable

451
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: has limitations, and those are called Daniel Jones. I mean

452
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 1: he's this is the last year, clearly, But um, I

453
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: don't know. As I watched, I thought it was a

454
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Speaker 1: really hostile crowd. I don't think the New York Giants

455
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Speaker 1: are without talent. I think they have the right coach.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think you get on that flight, you

457
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Speaker 1: go home, and you feel like we're not as dynamic

458
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Speaker 1: offensively as Philadelphia. But geez, Matt, you look around the

459
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: NFC right now. Who's great? Green Bay can only win

460
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: one way. Tampa's falling apart. I mean the Rams, trust

461
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: me on the Rams that it's Bondo and band aids.

462
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: It is not a good team. San Francisco's got limitations.

463
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Speaker 1: I mean, I would think the flight at home tonight,

464
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Speaker 1: it's a pretty positive one. I think so in you're

465
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Speaker 1: a man, the sort of the master of the schedule.

466
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Speaker 1: And you know, the Rams are coming up to the

467
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Speaker 1: Cowboys here pretty quickly, and Cowboys have a chance to

468
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: get on a little bit of a role here, and

469
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Speaker 1: then the Eagles right after that, and so everything's right

470
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Speaker 1: out there in front of them. And I'm telling you

471
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Speaker 1: they didn't expect Cooper Rush to do this at all.

472
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Speaker 1: I was with Jerry last week and I was right up,

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Speaker 1: you know, next to him. In fact, you saw me

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Speaker 1: right behind him in one of those photos, and it

475
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Speaker 1: was just you could tell he was shocked how Cooper

476
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Speaker 1: Rush played. I've seen Jerry the angriest he ever was

477
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Speaker 1: at Jason Garrett was when Jason Garrett sold him a

478
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Speaker 1: bill of goods on a backup quarterback. And they had

479
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Speaker 1: Brad Johnson one of those years, and Brad Johnson was

480
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: to check down Charlie by that point, and Jason had

481
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: become friends with Brad and and he said, Brad can

482
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Speaker 1: do this. And when Romo was out, Brad Johnson filled in.

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Speaker 1: He went one and two and they were horrific. And

484
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Speaker 1: so the fact that they are functional, and also the

485
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Speaker 1: fact that they let him down times that CD dropped

486
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Speaker 1: that big one you know, and there are other plays

487
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: and holding penalties and everything they had to overcome, and

488
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Speaker 1: he still kind of kept chipping away. And when they

489
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Speaker 1: fall down thirteen six, and they answer and they come

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Speaker 1: right back down the field and then CD to his credit,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is not by the way, I had

492
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Speaker 1: Drew on my radio show, Drew Pearson, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: this is not, this is not he's not honoring the

494
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Speaker 1: number eighty eight. The eighty eights were upset with him

495
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: early on in this season, and tonight after a really

496
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: bad drop, it kind of an embarrassing drop. And then oh,

497
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: by the way, the rookie had a bad drop. Then

498
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Speaker 1: he make on that one that all you need against

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Speaker 1: the Giants. He's like one great drive in a sense.

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Speaker 1: He took over on that drive and he ends it

501
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Speaker 1: and it was just like they needed somebody to step up,

502
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Speaker 1: and so they have him, and they have Tony Pollard

503
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: and then they ran behind an aging left guard. Tonight.

504
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Speaker 1: We think about that. On the third drive with the game,

505
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: they put in a forty one year old guy who

506
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Speaker 1: doesn't play guard, and they said, go play left guard

507
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Speaker 1: for us, just see how you do. We'll just see

508
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Speaker 1: how you do. And he blows open a hole in

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Speaker 1: Pollard Ghost for forty six yards. So this thing is

510
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: you were talking about band aids and everything with the

511
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 1: Rams are doing. That's what the Cowboys are doing. But

512
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Speaker 1: it's a win. Yeah, it's a win. And then that's

513
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Speaker 1: in the NFC right now, that's good enough. Well, yeah,

514
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: in the NFS, everything's kind of band aids. I mean,

515
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: Garoppolo for the first time in nine months, got every

516
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Speaker 1: throw at practice this week. He admitted after the game, like,

517
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Speaker 1: I'm not in shape. Tampa's just basically going to the

518
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Speaker 1: local hospital. I mean, nobody is healthy. And by the way,

519
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: the Rams, that's a very winnable game for the Cowboys.

520
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: So Van Jefferson's in the I R. Alan Robinson looks

521
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: washed o. BJ's gone. Cam Akers is in the doghouse

522
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: because he fumbles near the goal line. They're missing their

523
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: center and they're right guards a backup and Andrew Whitworth left,

524
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: so they don't get great protection. And Matt Stafford does

525
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: a lot of picks. So when you look at the

526
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: schedule coming up, it's a lot of winnable stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't love the Cowboys. The way I look at

528
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: Dallas is I know the undoing is obvious. It'll be penalties.

529
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: It'll be situational football and penalties that will end the season.

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00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,239
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily talent, Like they're not as talented as

531
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: the Niners. That is indisputable. After that, if everybody's healthy,

532
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: they got five or six elite players, they're not the Niners.

533
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Speaker 1: Other than that, maybe maybe Philadelphia I'm under serving here,

534
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: but I just look at this team and I think

535
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 1: every time I watch them, they're painfully undisciplined. I think

536
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: that's fair. I think you also have to remember Michael

537
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: Gallup is returning next week. I mean, I think that

538
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 1: that really helps the offense. The discipline stuff's not going

539
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: to go away. I mean, that's that's sort of sadly

540
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: what Mike McCarthy brings to the table. But now and again,

541
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: some of that we can't just blame on him. On

542
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. We go crazy about

543
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn and there were calls on the defensive side

544
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: of the ball, whether it beholding, whether it was the

545
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: after the whistle stuff that was going on. Even though

546
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: some of that stuff was ridiculous. But the best news

547
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys is Michael Parsons was not himself. He

548
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: showed up at the game with a bunch of pedia light,

549
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: which we've all had to use at some point. He

550
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: in his case he needed it for some illness. And

551
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence, who were kind of like he played grows,

552
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: de Marcus stun recently free sacks constantly, Dawrence Armstrong, everybody

553
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: else lifted this player up, this this great NFL player

554
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: who was not himself tonight. And how many Daniel Jones,

555
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: how many pressures they end up with? Twenty four twenty

556
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: four pressures? I mean they was embarrassed in the twenties. Yeah, yeah, no,

557
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean again, Michael was sick backup, lots of penalties,

558
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: a ceedee lamb drop, and I really felt in the

559
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: last ten minutes of the game, Dallas was the better team.

560
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: If you're the New York Giants, because I really like

561
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: Brian day Bole, they got a draft a quarterback clearly

562
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: outside of left tackle. Their offensive line is still a

563
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: massive problem. Kenny Galladay is stealing a paycheck not to

564
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: have any sympathy for the Giant. I thought the crowd

565
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: was also really loud tonight. I thought it was a

566
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: really hostile environment. But when you look at the Giants,

567
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Speaker 1: and I do think sometimes I think, you know, in college,

568
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: if you get the right coach and the transfer portal,

569
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,479
Speaker 1: you can get good really fast. In the NFL, there

570
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: are limitations because it's such a quarterback lead. Here's the

571
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: good news for the Cowboys. There's two quarterbacks in this division,

572
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurtzon Dak that are franchise quarterbacks. Whence I think

573
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: is washed and Daniel Jones is done. So I mean,

574
00:33:55,040 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: like the horizon, I think Dallas is too insular. But

575
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: I think, I really think with Gallup coming back, I

576
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: think people in Dallas, Dallas Cowboy fans there's a little

577
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: playoff five to them. They're getting they may be falling apart.

578
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 1: So as everybody else in the NFC, well, there always

579
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 1: the good news for any NFL team is when the

580
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: Commanders are coming to town and that's happened in next

581
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: week and you go to three and one, and everything

582
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: we know about the NFL we're having to kind of rethink.

583
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: I mean, when you see the Dolphins jump out to

584
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,440
Speaker 1: a three and old, you know, start you gotta have

585
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 1: to kind of think, Okay, these are different times we've

586
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: been trained to think of teams like the Patriots over

587
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: the years. They're not the same and they're not going

588
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: to be anywhere close to the playoffs for another season.

589
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: The Cowboys in the NFC East can always be hanging around.

590
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, Jason Garrett came on the other

591
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: night and said he thinks the Eagles are the best

592
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: team in football. I like Jalen Hurtz Washington play for

593
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: a long time, both in Oklahoma and Alabama, and I

594
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: think he is a fun player because he can do

595
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: so many things on the move. Do I think over

596
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: the course of a season he can keep this up.

597
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: I do not. I really don't. They have they have

598
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: really good weapons, and they have really good defenders. I'm

599
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: just saying I base it more on his whole body

600
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: of work. I mean, there's a reason he transferred. There's

601
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: a reason. You know, everybody was winning the Heisman there.

602
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: He was okay, he was pretty good at Oklahoma, UM

603
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,360
Speaker 1: he wasn't great. And I have a really hard time

604
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: thinking he's just going to do this the rest of

605
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: the season. So the Cowboys right now are just kind

606
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: of holding the fort with Cooper Rush, and I think

607
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: I think when you do something like that, it can

608
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: have an impact on the whole team. And the thing

609
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: of Cooper Rush won't do is like make these backbreaking mistakes,

610
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, like like Daniel Jones even how many years

611
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: is this six or seven years? You know at some

612
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 1: point he's gonna like with a minute fifty if if

613
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just the ball, or Brady or really you know,

614
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: all these young quarterbacks, You're like, they got a chance,

615
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: they got a chance. I mean, did you think they

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00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: had a chance. Time for another edition of Sharp or

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00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Square with the CCO of the Action Network Chad Millman,

618
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: host the Favorites you see them on the Cowherd podcast feed.

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Speaker 1: All of our odds provided by a fan duel. Okay,

620
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I went two and three, Damn Julio Jones late scratch shoots,

621
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Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Cowboys went on Monday Night

622
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: standalone game overvalued. Dallas is only averaging fifteen and a

623
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: half points of offense a game. Washington humiliated Philadelphia is

624
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: just really good. I'm taking the points Commanders plus three

625
00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: sharper square, dude, that is the Commanders as a side

626
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: one hundred percent sharp. You're nailing it, and you're nailing

627
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: it for all the reasons that the wise guys would say,

628
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: bet the Commanders right, Dallas wins a dramatic game in

629
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: prime time. Dallas is always inflated as it is, right,

630
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: So there's going to be a little bit more value

631
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: on betting whoever they play in the next week, especially

632
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: if the Commanders in that next week and the week

633
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 1: before got blown out by a team and a lot

634
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: of people thought the Commanders maybe could cover in that game.

635
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,240
Speaker 1: So you're one hundred percent on the rights on the

636
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: right team the challenge here, and this is a nuanced thing,

637
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: and as a better and all the time, because you're

638
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: a very popular guy, there's new people listening to this

639
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: podcast who may not be regular betters. There's something called

640
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: getting the best of the number, and you have to

641
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: decide as a better as you are deciding now where

642
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: is the value? And so, yes, the Commanders are still

643
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: the right side, but this game was at five and

644
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: a half, so you're not getting the best of the

645
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 1: number anymore. So you kind of got to make your

646
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: personal choice. Do you still believe that it's the right

647
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: side even though you're getting it at three? All right?

648
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: Patriots plus nine and a half again, Odds provided by

649
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: a fan duel. Mac Jones will play high. Ankle sprain

650
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt him much because he doesn't move anyway. The

651
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: reality of this is the Packers have scored one touchdown

652
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: in the second half all year. Why because Aaron Rodgers,

653
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: once he's off scripted, plays to his young receivers, doesn't

654
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 1: trust them. Once again last week, touchdown drive, touchdown drive,

655
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,479
Speaker 1: they fumble, he loses trust. He packs it in nine

656
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: and a half points. It'll be low scoring, way too

657
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 1: much Patriot sharper square. Oh my god, Colin, it's you

658
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: just hit all the key phrases that every professional better

659
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: is thinking about in this game. The numbers too high.

660
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,240
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers offense is not what it seems just because

661
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,799
Speaker 1: they beat on the Bucks. It's not that pretty. They're

662
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: not playing that well. It's going to be a low

663
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: scoring game in which the Patriots will try to control

664
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Speaker 1: the ball, keep it out of her in Rodgers hands.

665
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: A low scoring game and a high spread are two

666
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: things that if you're going to correlate them, you tie

667
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: it to the underdog that is getting a lot of

668
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: the points. This is a big pros jos game, meaning

669
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: the pros are putting their money on the Patriots and

670
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: the Joes, the betters, the average betters, the square betters.

671
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: They're putting their money on the Packers one hundred percent

672
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: sharp Kylin Cowherd all right, Cardinals getting plus one and

673
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: a half against Carolina. It's a much better roster. Arizona

674
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: is fairly desperate to quiet the critics. They need a

675
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: w or like badly. I don't like Carolina. I feel

676
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: like it's a pickum. They don't have much of a

677
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: home field advantage. I'm gonna roll here, desperate in a

678
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: good division for a win. Carolina is still rebuilding limitations

679
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: McCaffrey's health. I want to take Arizona plus the point

680
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: Sharper square. Well, look, it's it's sharp only in so

681
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: much as if you're going to have to make a

682
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: plan this game, you're gonna play Arizona, you know, in

683
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: a battle of two coaches that have probably the least

684
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: respect of any coaches in the NFL. From a wise

685
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 1: guide point of view, Matt Rule probably has a little

686
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: bit less respect than Cliff Kingsbury. If you're gonna bet

687
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you want to bet them before it gets

688
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: into October and November, when every coach is outstrategized and

689
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: outscheme Cliff Kingsbury, and he hasn't figured out how to

690
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: make any changes. They do have the better athletes. I

691
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: was big on Baker going into the year. I thought

692
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: this Carolina team could outperform expectations. He's been worse than

693
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: he ever was in Cleveland. And I will say this,

694
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you about the fan base from Charlotte.

695
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: I've got this theory. People hate me for it. Fan

696
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: bases in Charlotte, fan bases in Jacksonville, fan bases in

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00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: the AFC and NFC South teams. For the most part,

698
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: there's no passion there. Like I watched a lot of

699
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: that that Carolina game this past weekend, and I might

700
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: as well have been watching a Royals Tigers midday game

701
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: because it was so quiet. Right, So, I agree with

702
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: you there is no home field advantage there. It's sharp,

703
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: But I don't know why you'd want to bet it. No, Right, Well,

704
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 1: you know there's better to me, there's so many better

705
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: options on the board. Okay, So I don't want to

706
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: take all underdogs because that looks like I'm just playing

707
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: to just underdogs. I've got one more underdog. I like

708
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: Rams plus the points one and a half at San Francisco.

709
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is out. Jimmy Garoppolo is a timing thrower.

710
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: This means they're going to have to keep George Kittle

711
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 1: in to block a lot. Takes away a weapon they've

712
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: already got. Jalen Ramsey. He'll take away Brandon Ayuk or

713
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Debot match him up singularly. Troy Hill. By the way, Statistically,

714
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: PFF is having a monster year, so they have two

715
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: really good corners that match up. It's one of the

716
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: few games McVeigh doesn't have a coaching advantage. But I'm sorry,

717
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I don't think home field matters here. It's in division.

718
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: They play a lot. I'm taking the points. I think

719
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: the Trent Williams injury is a huge issue for them.

720
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: It forces them to keep Kittle in, makes a much

721
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: less dynamic. I'm going to take the RAMS plus the

722
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: point Sharper square. So the RAMS opened at two and

723
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: a half two and a half point Underducks. The wise

724
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: guys liked it at two and a half. The number

725
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: has come down to one and a half. This to me,

726
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 1: and this from a wise guy point of view, you

727
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: have a lot of challenges because you've lost the best

728
00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: of the number. And Kyle Shanahan for all of his fall,

729
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: of which he is proving to have many in certain situations,

730
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: he dominates the Rams. Right other than that that title game,

731
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: that NFC title game last year, he's generally that playoff

732
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: game last year, he's generally dominated the Ram. So I

733
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: think it's an interesting coaching matchup because I do think

734
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: Shanahan has proven that he can do the right things

735
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: against mcvay's schemes. I'm waffling here because there is no consensus.

736
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: I get this number right now. The wise guys don't

737
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: have a strong opinion. Here's one ray pick. Anybody's seeing

738
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: Jared Goff's numbers at home, they're like fantastic and Seattle

739
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: is bad on third down, bad throwing two rookie tackles

740
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: that are having you know, classic rookie tackle issues. Detroit

741
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: scores a lot of points, a lot more at home.

742
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: Golf's getting unbelievable protection. Amron Saint Brown's banged up, didn't practice,

743
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: but at four and a half, I'd swallow it. I

744
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: think they went by a touchdowner more. I think Seattle

745
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: played a great half of football against Denver. They haven't

746
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: done anything since. I like Detroit to win and cover.

747
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 1: So interesting you're talking about this game. So, as you mentioned,

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00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: I host The Favorites on the Volume podcast network. On Thursdays,

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00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: we do a segment called Sharp Calls, in which professional

750
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: betters react to the conversations my co host and I

751
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: had on Tuesday. Why don't you ever mention his name?

752
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: He's very talented. I mentioned him all the time, Simon Hunter,

753
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: He's amazing. It seems like you're always gloss over his name.

754
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to start anything. You just gloss over it.

755
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: Really well. Yeah, I mean if I said constantly my

756
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: wife had never mentioned Anne, I'd be like that suspicious.

757
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: They're having problems. No, I love Simon. I mentioned it, dude.

758
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: I made Simon a co host of the podcast. We

759
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: added his picture. Now you're getting very defensive. There's something

760
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: going on. Are you guys struggling? I'm such a dick.

761
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're so annoying me and some of

762
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: the guy who the podcast with. We get these calls

763
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: from professional betters, and the one game that they kept

764
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 1: telling us we weren't talking enough about was the Seahawks

765
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: and the Lions. Who do they like they love the Seahawks,

766
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, really, they love

767
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. They love the Seahawks down to three and

768
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: a half the game of that four and a half,

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00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm as shocked as you are. So I think there's

770
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: some analysis about Geno Smith that is being overlooked, that

771
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: he's playing just much better than people expected. I think

772
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: that you know, you're not going to often get running

773
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: backs who have an impact on a team's power rating

774
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: and on a point spread. But I do think with

775
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift being out, he's the playmaker on that team.

776
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: I'm on Ross Brown is great and he's the guy

777
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: that they can go to keep drives going, but DeAndre

778
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: Swift breaks open huge plays and sort of tilts the

779
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: game for them in a different way. So I think

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00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: they're counting on that and this defense is terrible and

781
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: so it's going to be hard for them to stop anybody.

782
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: And I think that with the combination of Geno Smith

783
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: playing better than they thought, the wise guys are betting

784
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: the Seahawks right now. I'm not going to bet this game.

785
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: I don't think talk me into it. Raiders minus two

786
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: and a half. So the numbers telling you about the Raiders.

787
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 1: But here's my problem. And I do think they've lost

788
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: three close games. Derek Carr's been fine, they've lost very close,

789
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: competitive games. But what worries me about the Broncos is

790
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: that in that last series against San Francisco, a great defense,

791
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: Russell's like, Okay, I'm just gonna take the offense over.

792
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: I've been deferential to you. My gut says that last

793
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: drive is Russells saying, listen, I try to be a

794
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 1: good soldier. I've got to win games. And I think

795
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: that's the offense we're going to see from Denver now

796
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: going forward. That's my feeling. So I like Denver in

797
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: my wrong plus police Denver Denver plus two and a

798
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: half is the spot here. And I agree with you

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00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: one hundred percent. You know, look, you and I before

800
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 1: the season began, we both love the Russell on the Broncos.

801
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: We think this defense is amazing. It's proven to be amazing.

802
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't think we realized how over his head Nathaniel

803
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: Hackett would be to start the year. Yeah, and I

804
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: am not a guy who says, oh well, he sucks

805
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: in the beginning, so he's not gonna be able to

806
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: grow into it. Everybody has their opportunity to do that.

807
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: But I do think that what you saw at the

808
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: end of that game was Russell Wilson b and Russell

809
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: Wilson and against a Raiders team that just feels like

810
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: it's in disarray right now. You're having team meetings, you know,

811
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: three weeks into it. Man, that's a different conversation. So yeah,

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00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: I like the Broncos. Here at plus two and a

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