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Speaker 1: As always, we got a dope show for y'all. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined by Paul Pierce, Danny Green. I'm Big Wise. Let's

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Speaker 1: get right into it, man and yo man, I think

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Speaker 1: tis the season for these power moves and we need

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Speaker 1: to just get right into our power Move segment presented

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Speaker 1: by Morgan and Morgan.

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Speaker 2: We don't usually do this, but these are.

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Speaker 1: Extraordinary circumstances and James Harden made it yet another power move.

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Speaker 3: I feel like we should talk about after these other

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Speaker 3: moves though, because that's gonna be like the end of

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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about the most. Yes, this is the crazy,

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Speaker 3: This is the craziest thing. But I like what Detroit did. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: even Cleveland before this trade when they got Dennis Schroeder

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Speaker 3: and Kean ellis like, that's a good move. But Detroit

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Speaker 3: getting Kevin Hurder and Dario Sarich power move.

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Speaker 2: Bro.

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Speaker 3: That's like Detroit needed shooting. They got a stretch Ford

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Speaker 3: big and you got Kevin Hurder. That's a power move Sacramento.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. DeAndre Hunter is a good pick up.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what direction they're gonna go in though,

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Speaker 3: but he's a good pick up. I guess Cleveland's under

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Speaker 2: It seemed like just a salary Dune salary.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, but yeah, Sacramento needs to figure

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Speaker 3: out what they want to do. The other moves you said,

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Speaker 3: Boston getting Vucevich, Yeah, solid move like that move. Anything else,

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Speaker 2: Loves to shoot.

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Speaker 1: He's making his threes now, yeah, and taking him which

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Speaker 1: is a huge deal.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised. I'm not surprised.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Simons is kind of redundant on their team. They

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Speaker 3: You want to talk about that Utah thing later, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about that one later. But some good moves

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Speaker 3: going on. But obviously the power move of the night

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Speaker 3: is James Harden and Darius Garland.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, so the Calves and the Clippers make they

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Speaker 1: basically swapped Darius Garland and James Harden for each other,

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Speaker 1: as well as the Calves sending a second round pick

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Speaker 2: Just to kind of set this up.

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Speaker 1: Shamps had reported already that James was angling for a trade,

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Speaker 1: and we heard that they were engaging with the Calves

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Speaker 1: and involving Darius Garland. I know we mentioned this on

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Speaker 1: the show. So James had to play an option for

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Speaker 1: next year for forty two million.

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Speaker 4: However, we're guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Partially guaranteed, that's the key to it. Only thirteen million

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Speaker 1: was partially guaranteed. So they said he had anxiety about

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Speaker 1: going into next year with only thirteen million dollars guaranteed.

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Speaker 2: So he was trying to kind of.

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Speaker 1: Pre negotiate an extension and get some kind of agreement

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Speaker 1: or acknowledgement from the Clippers like either we're gonna extend

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Speaker 3: So fully guarantee that next.

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Speaker 1: Year exactly, And the Clippers was like, nah, we're not

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Speaker 1: gonna fully guarantee you.

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Speaker 2: The Calves, we could get into what they were.

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Speaker 3: Thinking, that's kind of crazy, like he's done enough to

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Speaker 2: Do you think the Clippers should have fully.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to extend him, but you can give

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Speaker 5: him a full I'm not sure, but I don't think

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Speaker 5: this was about next year.

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Speaker 4: I think this was like moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Like he wanted more years after next year.

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Speaker 3: So, but I think if they do, you think he's

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Speaker 3: I think he's played good enough to at least get

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he wanted an extension.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's where the issue comes in. So I see

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Speaker 5: I think I think they would have gave him the guarantee,

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Speaker 5: but I think he wanted more year. He's played this

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Speaker 4: He did it in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it was just like, you know, when he

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Speaker 4: This was a power move by James Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think the Clippers, I think they made

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Speaker 1: out pretty well for themselves. It's been well documented that

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Speaker 1: they're really looking forward to the free agency of twenty

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Speaker 3: Twenty Sevenarus is gonna be on that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but now they got Darius and Zoob. I believe

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Speaker 1: so to be like sixty million.

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Speaker 2: Or something like that. That that that that's.

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Speaker 1: What they end up now having guaranteed on their books

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Speaker 2: However, you know, I think that leaves that would leave.

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Speaker 1: Them with something like ninety million dollars open, which is

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Speaker 1: like two max guys honestly, if that's the route that

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Speaker 2: This summer and just be like, yo, we'll eat the

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Speaker 2: thirteen million. You can go do what you gotta do.

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Speaker 2: I think they made out pretty good by getting Darius

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Speaker 3: All of this, for sure. I mean going younger, getting youthful,

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Speaker 3: that helps in the long run. Mind you, I don't.

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Speaker 3: We don't. We weren't sure they were gonna make they're

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Speaker 3: Like James hasn't missed the playoffs in his whole career.

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Speaker 3: Would have been the first year he might have not

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Speaker 3: you know, we weren't gonna win this year anyway, so

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Speaker 3: started making these moves sooner. Honestly, I don't know who's

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Speaker 3: kind of start over. But they had turned they had

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Speaker 3: they started playing well, they were, but they are now

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Speaker 3: Sorry we're talking about Cleveland in the Ague. Ye, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: they were actually climbing the ladder a little bit. This

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Speaker 5: I really hate the fact that the business of basketball.

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Speaker 4: Kind of ruins the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean because like we're sitting here talking about,

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Speaker 5: you know, James not getting his guaranteed, and he's thinking

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Speaker 5: about that, Like, Clippers have been the hottest team in

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Speaker 5: some habit because I really believe if you get the

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Speaker 5: Clippers out of eight or seven seed, they could possibly.

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Speaker 4: Knock out the way they've been playing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like it went from like it wasn't even about basketball,

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Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Clippers have been the hottest team. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: and it's like, I don't care we're not the hottest team.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking to get my futures in because this could

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Speaker 5: be very well James's last big deal.

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Speaker 1: Sure, he's thirty five, going on thirty six years old.

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Speaker 1: I think so it just kind of James is thirty seven.

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Speaker 5: It just ruins the game. But I understand it. You know, guys,

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Speaker 5: are like, but.

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Speaker 1: Wait, Paul, what do you think because I think this

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Speaker 1: is like the conversation when people say James made another

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Speaker 1: James threatened to be super unprofessional for the rest of

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Speaker 1: Clippers didn't see to his demand for a promise for

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Speaker 1: a contract extension.

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Speaker 3: This summer man man gets, he gets, And what do.

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Speaker 1: You guys think about the tactic? Like what if the

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Speaker 1: Clippers would have called this bluff and been like.

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Speaker 5: You, bro, he's done it, He's done.

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Speaker 2: But what do we think about that? Just as a professional, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I mean, that's the way it seems like the

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Speaker 3: tried to. Only two guys that I've known have done it.

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Speaker 3: The nice way is Jiannisan.

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Speaker 2: Dan And they didn't get what they want, not immediately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but they ended up getting walking if he wanted

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Speaker 3: didn't want Milwaukee.

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Speaker 5: Nobody in the history of the NBA has manipulated the

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Speaker 2: So I want to talk to you guys about the

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Speaker 3: That's what I want to know from you. What is

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Speaker 1: It seems like they don't believe that Darius Yarland is

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Speaker 1: going to be the Let's face it, last year to start,

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Speaker 1: won sixty four games. Garland was an elite NBA point

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Speaker 1: not like he's cheap. It's not like he's a spring

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Speaker 1: to be paying a guy forty two million to be.

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Speaker 3: Average, he's still very young, bro, I get it right now,

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Speaker 3: I would call it a spring chicken at twenty six honestly.

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Speaker 3: But my question to you is the moves that they've

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Speaker 3: the apron like or shed some some So you shed

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Speaker 3: this contract? Yes, I understand trading Darius James.

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Speaker 2: See how much they've promised James?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Again, so what's that extension look like?

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Speaker 3: Do you extend James at this point for that forty

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Speaker 3: But ultimately come saying contract and darl things.

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Speaker 5: You want to keep Mitchell there. You want to keep

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Speaker 5: Mitchell happy because you're looking at a situation where right

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Speaker 2: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 4: You know. So I really like the move.

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Speaker 5: It really still it gives him an inside threat, a

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Speaker 4: And so I really like that move.

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Speaker 3: To you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like obviously

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Speaker 5: It's not gonna be like one of the first, second,

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Speaker 4: Think, see how he plays the rest of the year and.

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Speaker 3: Bro, he's in the final year of his three year sixty.

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Speaker 3: But to me, this is another duration of porzingis you

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Speaker 3: Like he can traditionally.

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Speaker 3: Not the reprotector as but he can stretch the floor,

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Speaker 2: And so I think that's a.

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Speaker 1: Great, great trade for them defensively, Like you said, I

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Speaker 5: I mean, if Jason Tatum comes back this year, I

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Speaker 3: Come out the east.

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Speaker 4: Man and he comes back, for sure, they'll win the chip.

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Speaker 3: That's what he was asking.

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Speaker 5: Think about this, Jayson Tatum average like twenty five twenty

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Speaker 1: So Chicago, Minnesota, and Detroit agreed to a deal that

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Speaker 1: Just Detroit just being like look, this guy that we

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Speaker 3: He had some injuries, man, and they they've gotten so

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Speaker 1: So Kevin Hurder, I thought Detroit definitely needed more shooting.

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Speaker 3: Could look this year. He's a good shooter. He's a threat, man, He's.

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Speaker 2: Definitely a threat.

444
00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 4: And I think the shots that he just made.

445
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,280
Speaker 2: Kate is gonna be providing him.

446
00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, they'd be if it was that night they retired

447
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:45,480
Speaker 3: Derek Roy. I think it's against Boston.

448
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: Boston, Yeah, uh he's shooting thirty one point four percent

449
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 1: from three, and if you see his career averages, he

450
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,480
Speaker 1: had a bad, bad year with the Kings in twenty

451
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,400
Speaker 1: four to twenty five, but other than that, it's been

452
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 1: above thirty every single year.

453
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 3: Like that's crazy. I thought he definitely like a thirty

454
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 3: seven shooter. Yeah he's yeah, mostly like thirty seven all his.

455
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 5: Great year shooting. He's had more minutes. He needs time

456
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 5: to wore him up. Yeah, you noticed that the trend.

457
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 2: Maybe they haven't played him because he's not making shots.

458
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 5: Man, you know, when he plays twenty five minutes, he's

459
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 5: gonna shoot good from three.

460
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's capable, so like, but he's a no And

461
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,359
Speaker 3: I think on a good team he's gonna get more

462
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: open look because I remember from the Atlanta years, bro,

463
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 3: he was lighting lighting motherfuckers up from this. Even in

464
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 3: Sacramento he was a you know in three point contest,

465
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 3: he was shooting a high clip. But with a better

466
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 3: team like Detroit and you go, k come of open looks.

467
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 3: I think he's those numbers come up at least five five.

468
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,560
Speaker 2: I just watched the Pistons play Denver.

469
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,440
Speaker 1: They beat Denver big win for the Pistons at home,

470
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 1: and Denver just decided they're just gonna collapse on Kid

471
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 1: and dare the Pistons to beat them from deep, and

472
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: they ended up making enough shots to win the game.

473
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 2: But I'm like, man, you can't.

474
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: Really deploy that if they're gonna be playing Kevin Herder. Yeah,

475
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: and guys like that. Yeah, And so I think that's

476
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: a great move for Detroit, honestly, And I've been a

477
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: Kevin Herder fan, so I love it.

478
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about Jaron Jackson.

479
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 3: That's the last one, right, yeah.

480
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the last last trait we want to talk about.

481
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 1: Just to close out the segment, the Grizzlies moved on

482
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 1: from Jaron Jackson Junior and John Contrad, Jacques Londale and

483
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: Vince Williams Junior, sending them to the Utah Jazz for

484
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: Walter Clayton Junior, Kyle Anderson, Taylor Hendricks, George Nyang and.

485
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: Three future first round picks.

486
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: I think this signal was obviously for Memphis that they're rebuilt.

487
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 2: It's over.

488
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:48,919
Speaker 3: They got a lot of picks. Have you seen a

489
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,719
Speaker 3: line of the picks they have?

490
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, They've got and they and they've been traditionally really

491
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: good at finding guys mid round late lottery, so so

492
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 1: I wouldagine they'll be good at it going forward to does.

493
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 3: JA go next?

494
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 4: You would think, so, yeah, that's the domino effects.

495
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 5: You would think, I mean, he doesn't fit the timeline

496
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 5: of what they're trying to do again.

497
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 4: But maybe he does because I was in this situation.

498
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 3: But you don't get right now, are you gonna get

499
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 3: in return what you want for him?

500
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 4: If I'm not. I'm novel.

501
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 5: I've never trained y'all, first of all, but like I

502
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 5: just remember being in this situation, like in my fourth

503
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 5: year conference finals playoffs. Then like by the time my

504
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 5: six seven year, we rebuilding, and I'm like, I thought

505
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 5: we was building towards something, that's what I've seen with

506
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 5: y'all now, But there was like, no, we're just gonna

507
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 5: continue to build with you. And then three years later

508
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 5: we win a championship. So I could see them keeping

509
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 5: y'all and just saying, look, this core wasn't good enough.

510
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 5: We're gonna see if we can move these pieces around,

511
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 5: take some of these first round picks and add a

512
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 5: piece or two to get them back in contention. So

513
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 5: I don't know this we say it's a dominant effect,

514
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,719
Speaker 5: but maybe not.

515
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 3: Or they just gonna see what Jack can how much

516
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: more value they can get out of him to the summertime,

517
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 3: See if you can build this value back off to Bubblegate.

518
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, OKC amount of picks, who knows, but

519
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: they have a lot of picks right now.

520
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 5: We gotderstand to rebuilds take a long time, like we

521
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 5: like we've been watching the process for how long? Yeah,

522
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 5: you know it could be a jacket like I'm holding

523
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 5: on the job.

524
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 4: But he speeds up your rebuild, yeah, so quickly.

525
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't a quick rebuild like we we had

526
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 5: my sixth year, I remember we lost like nineteen games

527
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: in a row, but we got into the lottery six

528
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 5: sixth No, no, no, no, not my sixth year. So

529
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 5: we've playoffs four fifth, sixth year, rebuilt, seventh year, eighth,

530
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 5: ninth year, we was getting better, got some young pieces

531
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 5: that were tradable.

532
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: Ninth year I was injured. We got back in. We

533
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 4: was terrible.

534
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 5: We had good young pieces, Al Jefferson, Rondo, Tony Delonte,

535
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 5: West Perkins, nice young pieces. But then we are lottery teams,

536
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 5: so we used the pick with some young pieces to

537
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 5: go after Ray and KG.

538
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and another thing that I find fascinating about this

539
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: deal is just Utah just they've decided that they're done

540
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: with their rebuild.

541
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: Basically. I think the ownership put.

542
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 1: Out some statements in the press before the season that like, yo,

543
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 1: like the whole tanking rebuild, Like we're done, We're ready

544
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: to move to a new phase with the franchise, which

545
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: I just think it's fascinating because every single year since

546
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 1: Age got over there, they.

547
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 2: Basically never fully committed.

548
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: The teams were kind of too good, then at the

549
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: trade deadline they would strip them.

550
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 2: Off for parts, and then the Lorrie marketing thing.

551
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: He never really fit a rebuild because he was a

552
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: freaking all star caliber player on a team that was

553
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: obviously trying to rebuild. But now it just seems like

554
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,959
Speaker 1: they're like, look, we got Kyante George, we got our

555
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: rookie that we drafted last summer.

556
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: We liked, we liked.

557
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: Them, we love Laurie, we love Kessler. We're ready to

558
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: basically start trying to be a real team now. And

559
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: they they they got a bunch of all.

560
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: Start playing Defensive Player of the Year.

561
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 3: God, Like this guy's I like, what they got to

562
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,400
Speaker 3: so Keante, George jarn Jackson and Laurie Mark Like that's

563
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: a good core right there. Like and then you see

564
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 3: Isaiah Caller seventeen to twenty two assistant like Collie are

565
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: getting getting to it. So they have some some good

566
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: pieces over them, like they got. These kids that they

567
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 3: got from from Memphis are good too, Like Vince Williams

568
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: ain't know, he's a solid Yeah, could be a solid

569
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 3: three and D guy if you developed them. Jack Londell

570
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 3: is a good backup big you know what I'm saying,

571
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: contrad a solid piece like these are some solid pieces

572
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 3: they got from Memphis in return as well.

573
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: So I always love when NBA trade timing works out

574
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 1: like this because the Calves are about to play the Clippers.

575
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 3: In like two days, Like yeah, they play each other tomorrow,

576
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 3: so they be all in LA right now. They don't

577
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: think they need to leave, Like James just went over

578
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: to the hotel. James don't even got to get on

579
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: the plane in Cleveland, go to the other side of the Just.

580
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 2: Zoom with your new team is just do it.

581
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 3: Just do a group zoom to walk into the hotel

582
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 3: room and just go chop it up.

583
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: Pushing. Yeah, uh so Donovan Mitchell, you think he's gonna score.

584
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 4: He has to.

585
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: James ain't playing right away. I think they think they're

586
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 3: both gonna sit out the first game or two or

587
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: two everything clears.

588
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so. Yeah, because they gotta do

589
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 2: the physical.

590
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: They gotta do all of that stuff just in case

591
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 1: the Clippers aren't hiding some catastrophic James situation.

592
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: I got don for more of twenty nine and a half.

593
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna go off and here in La

594
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: plays well in the big cities.

595
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: Man. I wonder how the Clippers respond to this move.

596
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: I think Kawhi is gonna respond. I don't know about wrestle.

597
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough because it's a different than not

598
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: playing with James. Here's the system.

599
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 2: He's a lot of what they do and Garland. You

600
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 2: know they traded for a guy who's already hurt.

601
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not available, so he's not gonna.

602
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 2: Be available, so you're losing your.

603
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: But even if he was, he wasn't gonna be like

604
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 3: these guys are. Don is used to not playing with

605
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: Darius right now or that second guy. So Clippers are

606
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 3: not used to playing with James that like, as you

607
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 3: see another night, I don't know who they lost it.

608
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 3: They gotta punched by somebody. But they lost the other

609
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: night before the news came out. So it's gonna be

610
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: tougher for them to kind of regroup than it is

611
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 3: for Cleveland to regroup.

612
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Clippers is it's interesting, man, because once

613
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: they decided that they weren't gonna pay Paul George, and

614
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: they were just like, look, we're moving in a new direction.

615
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: We're not we're signed.

616
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: If you if you don't think three years is good

617
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: enough for you in terms of guaranteed max money, move

618
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: on with your life then.

619
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: And they've now done the same with James.

620
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: It's just I wonder what that feels like as a

621
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: guy that's in that locker room to know your team

622
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: is kind of just like this.

623
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: Error doesn't really like we're done with this error, this error.

624
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 5: I mean, you know the thing that don't get talked

625
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 5: about is when there's a major trade on your team, the.

626
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 4: How's the heartbeat of the team?

627
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Because like it can take

628
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 5: the air out of your locker room and that next

629
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 5: game you just.

630
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: Like, damn dog, it's hard to play, or it can

631
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 3: bring excitement like okay, you got something new.

632
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 5: It's it's all like people don't never talk about it

633
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 5: because I haven't been on both sides.

634
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 4: Of like damn we trained it.

635
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 5: Oh boy, it's like you you don't like you You're

636
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 5: going through so many mixes emotion because not only you

637
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 5: lost a good teammate, you lost a good friend.

638
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: And then then you're looking around and like looking at.

639
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 5: It's a lot of things man like, Like I can

640
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 5: see Kawhi like man kind of it lasts maybe like

641
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 5: a day or two, but it's something like something happens

642
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 5: with your emotion and a heartbeat that day, you know

643
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So it's like sometimes hard to play

644
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 5: on trade day or that next game and so or

645
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 5: it can go the other way.

646
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: But I don't think Kawhi feels emotion.

647
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah know, so I like more than twenty six and

648
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: a half, Like I think think he goes Terminator movie.

649
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, James, He's got to give me a rock

650
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 3: get out my way going.

651
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: For more than twenty six and a half. I think

652
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: guys like Zoo again. Him and James had a great

653
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: chemistry and pick and roll.

654
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gonna affect Zoo, but it's gonna affect Kawhi

655
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 5: in that first game too, because James took pressure off

656
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 5: of him with his scoring. So now you can really

657
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: lock in on Kawhi with the scouting report.

658
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 3: You're going less with Kawhi. I got less for Zoo

659
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: on that because it's.

660
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 2: Just if you're not you're not getting more than thirteen

661
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: and a half.

662
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: But talking about the group, like the Moraleys points it is.

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Speaker 2: This is a paid advertisement. Draymond Green.

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Speaker 1: Has emerged as the guy that is most likely to

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Speaker 1: We'd love to put Jimmy with a Giannis, but Draymond

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Speaker 1: is on the block.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this.

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Speaker 4: Whoa really Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you can't make a money match. You can't

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Speaker 2: Raymond is on the block, and I think rightfully.

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Speaker 3: So it's not it's not so he said, the block

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Speaker 3: is just he's in the talks with Giannis. He's not

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Speaker 3: just on the block like then that's trying to ship him.

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Speaker 3: But if they get Giannis, he would have to be

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Speaker 3: in that deal. So they're not like exploring all Draymond

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Speaker 3: like avenues of like we want to get rid of Draymond.

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Speaker 3: It's just if we have to get to get Janis.

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Speaker 3: If you have to get rid of Draymond, we'll move

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Speaker 3: on from him.

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Speaker 1: So the package will probably be dre probably Kaminga, some

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Speaker 2: I don't know that.

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Speaker 1: If I'm Milwaukee, that sounds like a very appetizing deal

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Speaker 1: for getting rid of the best play in the history

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Speaker 3: I'm expiring deal right with picks. Picks and Kaminga are

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Speaker 3: but some veteran But.

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Speaker 1: But this is also word out there that they would

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Speaker 4: It's just.

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Speaker 2: But I'm still drawing all the attention.

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Speaker 3: He's got bars. Now he's rapping on here ahead. Put

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Speaker 3: sign you got shake bro. No pencil, but I'm drawing

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Speaker 2: No pencil, but I'm still drawing all the attention.

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Speaker 3: Boy got bars representing.

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Speaker 2: Please, for the love of God leave us alone.

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Speaker 3: Is that? Is that? Is that a like a like

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Speaker 3: a sign that he's like he's for sure about.

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Speaker 1: The We know it's perfectly cryptic because he's dying for

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Speaker 2: He's being in attention.

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Speaker 3: Who maybe maybe he knows the deals in the in

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Speaker 3: the works. He's about to be out there in the day

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Speaker 2: That's what it feels like.

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Speaker 1: And so Steve Kerr gets asked about Draymond being the

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Speaker 1: statue outside of the building someday. It's like, how are

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Speaker 1: you a statue guy? But you're also trade fodder guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a tough There's some guys that got

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Speaker 3: There's some guys that have been traded against statues. I

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Speaker 1: You guys think Draymond deserves a statue outside of the Oracle.

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Speaker 3: Arena, that's a that's an interesting question. Man.

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Speaker 2: Four championships, the greatest team.

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Speaker 3: This Yeah, sitting services. I think all three of them

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Speaker 3: deserve statues.

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Speaker 2: Bro, So you you cap it at three.

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Speaker 3: I'm not capping it, but I think they all all

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Speaker 3: three of them deserve statues.

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Speaker 2: So no Iggy, no.

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Speaker 3: Possibility, but definitely Steph Clay and Draymond statue. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: At all, No statues, no statue.

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Speaker 3: So those three, because they're buried of got a statue. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think you're gonna did define the Golden State era

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Speaker 5: with those three.

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how many champions in total? They have four? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the whole the whole organization. I mean, I think they

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Speaker 3: might have won one outside of the four. So like

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Speaker 3: seventies they've won, they've won ninety five percent of years. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: ninety percent championship.

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Speaker 5: Think you grouped them up put three or the three,

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Speaker 5: because that's that's not get his own statue, you.

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Speaker 3: Can't got they got three before them, so they have.

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Speaker 1: I'm even throwing statue nineteen forty seven, nineteen forty seven,

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Speaker 1: ninety six and seventy five, fifty six.

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Speaker 3: They had three before the four.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm giving I'm giving Duranta statue in Golden State.

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Speaker 2: Two Duranks statue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got two for three years, two finals.

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Speaker 3: I might I might give them one. Okay, See that's

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Speaker 5: Two chips and two finals MVPs. Durant gets a statue

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Speaker 5: in Golden State.

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Speaker 3: Here's jerseys up there, so.

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Speaker 2: Nobody ever gets swear thirty five agains.

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Speaker 5: I'm giving him a statue of that threes and threes

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Speaker 3: Lebroni the statue two years Ndred two years was.

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Speaker 4: He the best player on those two championship teams.

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Speaker 3: But they were really good teams.

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Speaker 4: It was Kawhi getting the statue.

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Speaker 3: In Toronto, Yeah, because it wasn't like he.

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Speaker 4: Was he won one. The rat won too.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't surrounded by Stephan Clay and I don't care

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Speaker 2: He played with three of the Hall to.

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Speaker 4: How many Hall of Famers that Kawhi played with?

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Speaker 3: One who's talking about that was Kyle.

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Speaker 5: Is gonna be a Hall of Famer and Gasol is

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00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 5: going to be a Hall of Famer. Maybe, yeah he played.

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00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: They weren't in their prime, that.

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Speaker 4: Draymond all, but they were Hall of Famers.

885
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 5: That's the value when you got that type of i

886
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 5: Q and those type of like intangibles like when when

887
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: when when Dirk won?

888
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 4: How many Hall of Famers he had?

889
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 5: They weren't in their prime, but the half that level

890
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 5: of like i Q and that leg level of knowledge.

891
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know how to win. Sure, it's a thing,

892
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 4: but that's why they got married and kids.

893
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: But you weren't compare You will compare Dirk's team to

894
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: k Kd's team.

895
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 4: That's about the same, absolutely.

896
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: Not the same. You Yeah, it's not that they're not

897
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 3: saying they're not the same thing. Comparable, Like Katie had

898
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 3: a really good young prom.

899
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 4: Not to Toronto's team.

900
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: Oh Toronto.

901
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Dirk and Quiet is comparable.

902
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: That's what I was.

903
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: Comparing those because it's really they were the main guy

904
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 3: with some brilliant what I'm saying.

905
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 4: But Katie had gets a statue.

906
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 3: State, Okay, he did ten years there, he gets one.

907
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: Of three years.

908
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: You joined the team that won the championship already seventy

909
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: three years and you don't.

910
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 4: Go to that team. I'm not sure they beat Cleveland.

911
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't beat Cleveland either, But it's you know what

912
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you're not foundational.

913
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 3: No, not a foundational building.

914
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: Well, Kawhi wasn't a foundational Toronto raptor.

915
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: Nah. He came and put the paint on the house.

916
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: He didn like he was.

917
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: That's not statue worthy.

918
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 3: It's that his resume statuorthy.

919
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 4: But just that Shock don't get a statue in Miami.

920
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 5: Probably I'm giving Shock a statue of Miami that I

921
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 5: probably do for the first championship.

922
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: Ever, maybe that's equivalents.

923
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 2: Championship is not the first championship.

924
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: Actually, I don't know. Statues l A shock but how

925
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: many is it in Miami?

926
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yet he's not getting a statue.

927
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 3: You got a statue in l A h l A,

928
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 3: but not my own. He only did what two years

929
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 3: in the Miami it's.

930
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: Been long enough.

931
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 4: D gets a statue. KD gets two statues.

932
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 3: Okay, four years in Miami.

933
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 4: Damn okay see?

934
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: Does he get a Brooklyn statue?

935
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: No?

936
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 5: No, Brooklyn okay see and Golden State status. He put

937
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 5: all four of them down because think about it, we're

938
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 5: gonna feature these four This is arguably the greatest team

939
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 5: in NBA history.

940
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, why would not feature that in front of our building?

941
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 4: You got you can put that up there.

942
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 3: The greatest visitor only did two years.

943
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 5: Don't matter that team, KD. You can match that team

944
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 5: up with any team in the history.

945
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 4: Of the game.

946
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: They did three years.

947
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe you should memorialize that, memorialize.

948
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: That's why there's a banner up there.

949
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,240
Speaker 4: The greatest team in the history the jersey.

950
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 3: Yeah sure, but that's why they have banners and they

951
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: have jerseys. Everybody needs a statue. You can get a

952
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 3: jersey statue that up because in Draymond if anyway, Draymond

953
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 3: deserves the statue. So does Clay and step in front

954
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,480
Speaker 3: put off. I don't know if I'll go with that one.

955
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if I'll do Definitely Katie deserves a

956
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: statue for sure, I just don't think. I don't know, So.

957
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Let's stand on business really quickly fellas. Michael Beasley had

958
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 1: an interesting take on John Moran Jo while on the

959
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: White House Pod.

960
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: Play the clip for the People.

961
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: I think John.

962
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 7: Is the situation of having an immatrore files at the house.

963
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 7: I love how he loves his dad, for somebody needed

964
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 7: to get to his dad. I think his dad is

965
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 7: living in a past. I think his dad is reliving

966
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 7: his childhood right because if you look at Gianni's dad RP.

967
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 7: He came to the arena, he was proud of his son.

968
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 7: He didn't want to he didn't want to interviews, He

969
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 7: didn't want you to understand. He didn't tell you anything

970
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 7: he'd been through or showcased it because it was nice's time, right.

971
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 7: And I love how Jo's dad loves his son. His

972
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 7: dad is just a product of what we're speaking of.

973
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 7: So his dad missed out on his childhood and his

974
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 7: his his his son gave him enough money to time

975
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 7: travel bars.

976
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 3: He's a rat for sure. I'm not saying I agree

977
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: with every but I said the last part. I have

978
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: a lot of time. This for sure good, let's say,

979
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 3: because I mean I don't I'm not going to say

980
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: a lot on it.

981
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: Because I remember when Joh first became super popular and

982
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: he's doing the National TV games and they're doing the

983
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: thing with his dad, Tim Moran, where it's like, it's

984
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: this thing that I find to be patronizing, where it's like,

985
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: just because Jo's dad is at the game, they kept

986
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: basically making him Father the Year. It's like it almost

987
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: they're treating it like a miracle that a black dude

988
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 1: can be a father who shows up at all. And

989
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 1: I found that patronizing at the time, where it's just like, oh,

990
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 1: Joh's dad is Father of the Year for sitting courts

991
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 1: out of his son's NBA games. It's just like, that's

992
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: how the bar, the bar for black fatherhood is.

993
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: That shit got on my fucking nerves.

994
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: Then, you know, as time goes on and we get

995
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: to learn how Tim Moran actually gets down, which is,

996
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: let's face it, get bombed, completely bombed and drunk at games,

997
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: hollering at bitches and wolin at games. I'm like, maybe

998
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: it was kind of ridiculous that we made this dude

999
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: Dad of the Year and just showing up the John

1000
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: Moran games.

1001
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 3: You feel me, I hear you.

1002
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: I don't.

1003
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: I'm not second and it is not my take, but

1004
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 3: I hear it.

1005
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's not a take, it is the truth. I'm

1006
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: just saying, like, that's what he would do at games.

1007
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: This isn't like, oh, it's not like it's not documented

1008
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: like he would I vibe that game.

1009
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, But recently last couple of years has been chill.

1010
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: He's been kind of under the radar.

1011
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, after his son was posting gats on Instagram and

1012
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: all of that, and you know, people were like, yo,

1013
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: where's the guidance. Like again, I'm not saying Tim Muran

1014
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: is a bad father, but I don't know how you

1015
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: don't relate Jaws totally horrible decision making in his career

1016
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: with just a lack of guidance, you know what I mean.

1017
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: And again I'm not saying Tim Morant was absent to here.

1018
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 1: He was a terrible dad, but in terms of like

1019
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: how Jaw's managed things, it doesn't feel like there's a

1020
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: lot of grounding in humility bro around what he's doing,

1021
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like I'm not saying I don't.

1022
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with everything Beasley said there, but

1023
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: like I understand what he's getting at.

1024
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's saying he's living through his He's living through

1025
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 3: his son vicariously got the money to time travel, go

1026
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 3: back in time and live it up, which said, I

1027
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 3: don't knock him for it, but I don't disagree. Could

1028
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 3: there have been some different times we don't know what

1029
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: kind of guidance I've seen guys kind of ignore their dads,

1030
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like I've been a part

1031
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 3: of teams where it was too late that guys ignored

1032
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: their whole families and now nobody get through them, not

1033
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 3: even the agents, you know what I'm saying. So like

1034
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: who knows what was said in that household or not?

1035
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean, Bees had an interesting take. Pete,

1036
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 3: what you got? I mean, I don't got much.

1037
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 5: Man, I mean, listen, this is the thing man, I'm

1038
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 5: kind of split on. Would be said, because like I

1039
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 5: don't have a father that I can enjoy my NBA

1040
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 5: success with that. I can be right there front row

1041
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 5: and go to the club with him after the game

1042
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 5: and like, but like at this point, like Jihan is

1043
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 5: a grown ass man, Like he can say you don't

1044
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 5: think his father says stuff too, Like, like, yo, it's

1045
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: hard for me to believe that his father ain't talking

1046
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 5: to him about his situations and the shit that he

1047
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 5: had going. But at the end of the day, he

1048
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 5: had grown ass. Man, You're gonna have to make some decisions.

1049
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 5: You're gonna have to grow up, make some goddamn mistakes

1050
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 5: and learn from him, you know what I'm saying. And

1051
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 5: that's what the process is. And you know, I'm happy

1052
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 5: that my dad like, man, man, man, I'm in the

1053
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 5: club my dad.

1054
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: That's lit to me.

1055
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 5: That's kind of lied to me, kind of like, damn,

1056
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 5: I'm enjoying my saying my dad right here. I actually

1057
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 5: saw them out repot, you know what I'm saying. I

1058
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 5: was like, damn, that's kind of that's dope at hell

1059
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 5: that they could be out popping bottles and join the

1060
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 5: success and everything because a lot of us didn't have that.

1061
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

1062
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1063
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: I can't disagree, and I'm not saying that tea was

1064
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: ever like this. But I think there's there's got to

1065
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: be a line when there's when you become best friends

1066
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: with your kids, there's still got to be a respect fact.

1067
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: The drink's got to be a boundary. There's got to

1068
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: be something still.

1069
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 4: Like who says he's not respecting them?

1070
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 5: Again, I'm not saying the thing that's that's the reason

1071
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 5: he's saying is immature father is because of the things

1072
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 5: he's done off the court, with the trouble he's got in,

1073
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 5: Like how do I tell my son? Or who knows

1074
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 5: that he's not telling them and he's just not listening.

1075
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying with.

1076
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 3: You, I'm with you. I'm just saying in general, I

1077
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 3: agree with you what you're saying. I just said, we

1078
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: just don't know what. We don't know what he is saying,

1079
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: but I'm just saying, it still has to be a line.

1080
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: It's fun and all, it's cool to kick it with

1081
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 3: your pops, but there's got to be some type of line.

1082
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: There's some type of boundary and again some type of guidance,

1083
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 3: which I'm not here to say that there was or

1084
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: wasn't in behind closed doors, but to me, I'm like,

1085
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: even though he's twenty, he was when he's like twenty three,

1086
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: twenty fourth, he's maybe twenty two. To me, that you're

1087
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: still a kid, bro, Like you might be going. You

1088
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 3: still America says you're going to the whole.

1089
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: Though, is he a kid that needs help from your

1090
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 1: kid bro and the elders On his own?

1091
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: He can ignore the guidance, but you should at twenty

1092
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 3: two to twenty three years old, like you're a kid,

1093
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: and then you still need some type of guidance.

1094
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: And here's the thing that I will say about the

1095
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Job situation. I think people don't always take the bigger picture.

1096
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: And it's like one, Job was not one of these

1097
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: guys that got identified at thirteen years old that he

1098
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: was some next important thing.

1099
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: Right he did bloom.

1100
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't part of this AAU, Nike, Adidas, Puma, whoever

1101
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: get their hooks and these kids super early and professionalize them.

1102
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: He didn't have that.

1103
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: So I will say, like that plays a part in it,

1104
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: Like Job he's not this super corporate dude, which is

1105
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: part of what I love about Job, you know, like

1106
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: that he's not this perfectly polished guy because he didn't

1107
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: have that come to him. Look at the college he

1108
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: went to, and even I would say it was like

1109
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: into his sophomore year when he got quote unquote discovered.

1110
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: So this I did a job.

1111
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: He wasn't groomed to be this super famous, super important

1112
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: basketball freaking phenom.

1113
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 2: He wasn't groomed to be that.

1114
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: He was just a regular person for the majority of

1115
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: the time, like ninety eight percent of the time before

1116
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: he got to the league. So, you know, I can

1117
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 1: understand why he wasn't super equipped in the way that

1118
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys that we see now are

1119
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: basically just finished, polished, perfect corporate products.

1120
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 2: I mean, so I have an appreciation for that.

1121
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 3: But like he went to college, he had a couple

1122
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: of years. He wasn't straight out of high school. From

1123
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 3: my understanding, I think he grew up in the church.

1124
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: I think his dad, you know, sure they're pretty religious,

1125
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: but yeah, nobody's taught how to be.

1126
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: And even his agent, right, like he his agent, I

1127
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,760
Speaker 1: don't know who was his agent. Now, he didn't sign

1128
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: the CIA or Bartlestein or one of these, you know,

1129
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: it was mega situations.

1130
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,919
Speaker 2: It was Ray Allen's guy.

1131
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: Because his dad had a relationship with ray Allen, and

1132
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: he was like, Yo, my son needs an agent.

1133
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Who should we get? Use my agent? You feel me?

1134
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: And I don't want to disparage ray Allen's agent.

1135
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: Himself, right, he just had a lawyer consult type of thing.

1136
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying, Like it's not like he

1137
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: had all of this infrastructure around him the way a

1138
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: lot of these guys come into.

1139
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: The league with.

1140
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: So again I'm not saying like Joz some like raging

1141
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: maniac or his dad is this, but like the way

1142
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: they've handled this ship is not ideal.

1143
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: You know, can't agree on that.

1144
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: And you know, I would hope that there's been some

1145
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: kind of self reflection and be like, you know.

1146
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: So the that's the other question is when we came

1147
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 3: into the league, Pete, did you have like a support system?

1148
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 4: I mean, I think.

1149
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 3: Was it good? Was it a good supports that someone

1150
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 3: you came in.

1151
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 5: I mean I didn't have people up under me, like

1152
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 5: living with me, like support system. Like when I first

1153
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 5: came in the league, it was like, you know, I

1154
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 5: was on my own. You know, I grew up, but

1155
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 5: you know I come from a hard working mother who

1156
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 5: I respected, and you know, I I I have family

1157
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 5: and friends that I wanted to be like represent yeah,

1158
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 5: you know, so to what I did, it was a

1159
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 5: reflection on all of them. And so I did, you know,

1160
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 5: the best of my ability to just try to stay

1161
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: out of negative press. You know, I never really got

1162
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 5: into any major trouble while I was in the league

1163
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 5: anything like that. But I think you have people who

1164
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 5: I have mentors or coaches and people I can talk

1165
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 5: to you all the time that when things you know

1166
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,879
Speaker 5: seem like they weren't right, you know you can.

1167
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 3: You could talk to for sure. I mean for me,

1168
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: it was Caroline. I learned a lot being in school.

1169
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,760
Speaker 3: I did all four years, so I learned Coach Williams.

1170
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 3: Coming to the league, I feel like my first like

1171
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 3: initiation of what the NBA was like, it was like, damn,

1172
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: this the NBA is kind of crazy. And I really

1173
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 3: didn't learn professionalism until I got to San Antonio really,

1174
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 3: and not saying that Cleveland was unprofessional, but it was

1175
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 3: like it was different.

1176
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 4: You know.

1177
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 3: We had Shaq and Bron there, big kids playing around,

1178
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,240
Speaker 3: and then we had Delonte West. He had a whole

1179
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: scenario situation going. So I learned a lot of good

1180
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 3: and bad of what not to do from washing him,

1181
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 3: you know, things like that. But my pop said he

1182
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: kind of stayed. He told me a lot growing up.

1183
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 3: My brother's also and I'm not saying right a wrong

1184
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: how other people do it, But we were never like

1185
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 3: friend like he's my dog, but we were never friends.

1186
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 3: Like there was never a line where I could feel

1187
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 3: like I talked to him a certain way or do

1188
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 3: a certain thing or step out of line where he

1189
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 3: wouldn't check it, you know what I'm saying. So he

1190
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 3: definitely was on us and guided us up until even

1191
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 3: till his day. He still call and criticized if I

1192
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 3: was playing, he still call and criticized my game, but

1193
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 3: eventually kind of let let it go after like twenty

1194
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: seven to twenty eight. You know, all right, he's kind

1195
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 3: of grown now. But most black households, like we don't

1196
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: learn to tell our people know like that, you know

1197
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, or like become the head of the

1198
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: household right away that soon.

1199
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean again, I understand, like if Josh signs

1200
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: for big money with his sneaker company, he sounds.

1201
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 2: For big money with the Grizzlies.

1202
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: At a certain point, I'm the one with all the

1203
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: money so like I'm the one who makes the choices.

1204
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: You know.

1205
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: At the same time, though, like Danny, like could you

1206
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: see your dad showing up to a game sitting courtside getting.

1207
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 3: Into it is right around completely.

1208
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: Cooked public intoxication.

1209
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 3: He wouldn't do and if I don't know what age,

1210
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: but if he did do that, I would let him know, like, Yo,

1211
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,320
Speaker 3: this is I'm not I'm not like that's my person.

1212
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to be in the spotlight.

1213
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 5: And to be honest with you, like most young star

1214
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 5: player supports system is their teammates, yeah, and coaches. And

1215
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 5: the problem with the NBA today is they don't have

1216
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 5: those veterans on these teams with those stars, and that's

1217
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 5: what they need, Like you should have an og out there,

1218
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 5: at least two, like a couple of them on like

1219
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 5: a Mike Conley on the Memphis Grizzlies, like bringing them back.

1220
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 3: A couple of years ago, brought a couple you know,

1221
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: just then.

1222
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 5: But they're only there for a short period of time,

1223
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like having vets really do matter,

1224
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 5: cause like the vets will keep you on line. Be

1225
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 5: like hey, young fellow, that ain't it? You know what

1226
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 5: I'm saying, when you got them vets, that's really makes

1227
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 5: a difference on young stars when they start getting famous

1228
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 5: and getting the money in the vet that's been there,

1229
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 5: but like twelve thirteen years to be in that locker room.

1230
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 5: Like come on, man, straighten up, tighten up, you're blowing it.

1231
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,920
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. And I think that's important.

1232
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 5: That's what I see that's not in the game right

1233
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 5: now for sure.

1234
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: My only thing again, my last thing about Jockey is

1235
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: again I'm a fan of the guy. Like I still

1236
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: believe in this guy's talent and what he can achieve.

1237
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: It just felt like for a while like his he

1238
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: just wants it's so bad to not be famous, or

1239
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: like he wanted to no meaning, like he wants to

1240
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 2: comport himself like a regular person.

1241
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: Can you know what I mean? Like, because realistically, if

1242
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: you're not in the NBA and you post your legal

1243
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: firearm that you have a license or permit for on Instagram,

1244
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: so what no harm, no foult, You didn't do nothing

1245
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: to nobody.

1246
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 2: If you want to go to some pool hall.

1247
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 8: Or some strip club in Memphis and give a chick

1248
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,479
Speaker 8: two hundred bucks and keep it pushing with your life

1249
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 8: like nobody cares h it but like nobody cares right,

1250
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 8: But like I think Josh just it felt like he

1251
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 8: was yearning to live his life.

1252
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: As if he wasn't an NBA megastar.

1253
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: And I just hope he's come to grips with like

1254
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: what it means to be John Morant these days, and

1255
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: that you know, he can move past the lulls right

1256
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,479
Speaker 1: now and get back to.

1257
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 3: The school next couple of days, hopefully if he still

1258
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 3: in Memphis, like they'll have a new group, they figure

1259
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 3: some things out.

1260
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens, all right, folks. That's our show

1261
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,600
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1267
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: guys next time. Peace out, y'all.

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