WEBVTT - Episode 412 w/ Common & Pete Rock 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:15.440 He is Drake CHANMS motherfucking Podcast Make Time. He's a 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:18.319 legendary Queens rapper. He's agreed as your boy in. 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:18.800 O R E. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:22.000 He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. Put up his DJ 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:24.520 E f N. Together they drink it up with some 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:26.239 of the biggest players, you know what I mean. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.640 And the most professional, unprofessional podcast and your number one 0:00:30.720 --> 0:00:32.400 source for drunk fast chans. 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.600 Mother. Every day is New Year c that's it's time 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:44.120 for drink champions. Drink up, motherfuck mother. Would it good? 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:44.600 Be rolling? 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:48.279 Hopefully he's strolling. This is your homie and O R 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.120 E put up his DJ E f N. 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:50.599 And this is. 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:57.840 Militama Crazy World Radio, Make Something. And when I tell you, 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:00.920 when I tell you, we started this show because we 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.880 always wanted to give our legends they flowers. We don't 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.520 want something to happen, something to pass away. And you 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:09.959 say how great these people are. Both of these brothers 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:18.960 are legends, icons, tycoons, uh, super history with them, but 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.399 on their own super legends. I can't believe they got 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.560 together and did a whole, full fledged album together. I 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:37.680 got the link. I might bootlegg because I'm off for 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:39.200 this New York Knicks energy. 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.280 In case you don't know who the we talking about. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:48.440 We talking about the one and only comment. I know 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:52.440 you're a big New York I see you on the ground. 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:56.200 I'm gonna be honest me and you were there last night. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:59.040 It was so funny because Joe Joe, Joe's sitting next 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.000 to me. He goes, Yo, you never had comment on 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.040 the show. And I goes no, he goes, you know, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.120 he's right there. You know I literally got him tomorrow. 0:02:09.040 --> 0:02:13.800 He's trying to hook it up. But when I tell you, I, 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:20.280 as a kid, my dreams were crushed every year as 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.799 a Knicks fan, Yes, tell me about it. I hated 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:28.240 Reggie Miller, never met him. I hated Michael Jordan, never 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:29.680 met him. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.440 I hated certain things. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:40.080 But yesterday people was telling me, all right, a friend 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:45.080 of mine is his name is dukeepay It and he's 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.480 a scoreboard keeper for the NBA. He works for the 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.919 whole NBA, so he's neutral. He can't be on this team. 0:02:50.960 --> 0:02:52.639 He can't be on this team. He doesn't have favorites 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:55.640 because he's neutral. He's a scorekeeper. So I called him 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.480 and I was like, yo, I want to I want 0:02:57.520 --> 0:03:01.000 to go to Philadelphia to watch the game, and he 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.720 never stood this quiet and this in my life. 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:08.560 And he was like no, like he literally told me. Know, 0:03:09.000 --> 0:03:12.000 he said, you gotta go to the garden and you 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:13.360 gotta feel that energy. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.600 So let me just tell y'all how how ill it 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:23.480 was I Land, I get it. Alventito. They go to 0:03:23.720 --> 0:03:26.120 our brother, Dominican brother, Alventitao, who threatened me, told me 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.080 if I ever go to Dominican Repolo got him again, 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:32.480 gonna stab me. So we pull We got on the 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:35.480 side of the highway. We're coming from, uh the airport, 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:41.640 and his fucking battery gives out. Do you know this 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:45.400 is how much the city is lit. People pulled over 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.040 and was like, we got to hurry up because the 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.280 next game, man, we gotta get you up. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:04:00.640 The funk about it? Yoo, I've never know you got 0:04:00.640 --> 0:04:02.000 to doing this that that was the reason. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.080 That was the reason. You know, I'm from its shout 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.640 shout New York. Yes, but the way to see the 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:18.640 Knicks fan the way y'all when I see Pete Joe, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:22.400 I just see people, I'll be like, yo, I can't 0:04:22.440 --> 0:04:26.160 help with me like yo and jay Le Brushton from Chicago, 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:28.800 So yo, yo, so I kind of I got a 0:04:28.800 --> 0:04:31.000 little because Spike said to me yesterday, what you're doing here? 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:41.000 Brother? I love basketball? You try to ga I love basketball. 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:43.599 I'm like, I'm like Spike. First of all, I love 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:46.560 the NIXT. I'm excited that y'all doing good. I don't 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:48.600 see the energy. Then I'm like, yo, we got a 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:50.520 Chicago boy on y'all team. 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:56.320 I'm gonna be honest, I've never been to a playoff 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:58.919 game in my life. I mean, he wasn't doing was 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:05.279 making a playoffs crazy. 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:09.640 But this is twenty twelve was our last and I didn't. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.480 I didn't. I don't know, I don't know, but yesterday 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:17.479 it was a it was a youth. 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:21.600 I know I'm off subject, but just let me just 0:05:21.640 --> 0:05:22.160 tell you something. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.240 I used to watch people who jogged right, and these 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.600 people that jog all together. I used to laugh at 0:05:27.600 --> 0:05:29.080 these people. These motherfuckers are. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:33.720 Idiots, Like why is everyone jogging together like idiots? 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:34.280 Right? 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.120 And then I did it one day with a whole 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:38.839 bunch of other people when we jogged, and then you 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:43.880 realize y'all all on the same high. So I was 0:05:44.080 --> 0:05:46.560 so basically the same thing with with with the with 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.440 the garden I'm watching it on TV, and I'm like, damn, 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.720 we all kind of like got the same high. But 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:53.600 when I got there, Okay, now let me let me 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:57.120 give you another story. After they gave us a boost, 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.720 you know, you know West Wolf. Yeah, we go through 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:03.520 the Holland Tunnel pulled by West west Ward. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.359 I rolled down my window for one second, the whole 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:14.400 West Forest. She was like, yeah, there, don't realize. 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:16.560 I'm like They're like, I'm like, yo, now I gotta go. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.159 I gotta go to the next game. They stopped the 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:23.760 whole ship. Look, let's get to the next game. Like 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.479 everyone's this is the first time I seen my city 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:27.080 have unity. 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:27.320 Yo. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:31.480 I feel you can feel the unity, bro, and it's amazing. 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:35.520 It's amazing, like you hangle front like when we you know, 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:37.560 that was the one thing that happened when the bulls 0:06:38.520 --> 0:06:40.599 let me mention to a lot of the old Knicks 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.360 when they saw me looking looking at me like I'm. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:42.719 The n M. 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:52.520 Stocks, Like yo, they think about They're like what you're doing, 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:54.920 I'm like, yo, stock something. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.479 But but you know one thing that happened for us too, 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:02.279 and I see it happening in New York. The unity 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.560 man one thing that when the Bulls was winning, Man, 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:10.440 it wasn't no crime with down people. It was a 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:14.560 joy around the thing. And that's something that the basketball dude, 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.040 music dude, you know, supports to bring. 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:17.400 Man. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:19.680 I used to love like man, you see, it wasn't 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.720 no game, it wasn't no Cats one game bringing up 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:24.680 they be at home watching it. It didn't matter what 0:07:24.880 --> 0:07:27.200 where you was from. You watching the Bulls and we 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.840 always celebrating, and people was making money whether you worked 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:33.360 at the park and you know, the parking garages or 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:36.000 the bars. It was just like it just leaked the 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:37.720 city up. And I see New York doing that. So 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:42.200 I can't help but in joy seeing y'all, y'all foods, y'all. 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.040 Let me just say you something. 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.120 Me and fact Joe's on one place, Muster Rihbins at 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.160 the other place, and we're doing the same exact thing. 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:57.360 We can't help it and this comes out. So let's 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:58.520 get to this. Let's get to this. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:07:59.000 Right. 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:10.200 Everyone knows Pee Rock super phenomenal producer. You all the 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.120 accolades in the world, Like, why did y'all come together 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.000 at this point to make this album stuff? 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.800 Yeah, well, Pete Rock was one of the greatest musicians 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.520 producers of rangers, like not just in hip hop, man, 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:30.600 Like when you create a sound like that last forever, yep, 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:35.600 that's like people respect like Miles Davis and Charlie Parker, 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.280 you know, Earth Wind and Fire, what they produced music 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.200 that lasted forever. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.240 Pete Rock has done that, yep. 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.920 And it's like, what what I noticed about because doing 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:51.000 during the pandemic, I just started like listening just to 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:52.040 nineties hip hop. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:52.280 Man. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.240 I was just and on my on my workout list 0:08:56.280 --> 0:08:58.600 and all that was a lot of people rock joints, 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:01.760 and I was like, man, this is this dude is 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:04.760 one of our greatest and all this stuff going on 0:09:04.840 --> 0:09:05.800 around the cellar. 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:07.199 We had talked about. 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:12.240 Connecting before even the Fiftiest celebration, but during the fiftiest celebrations, 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:14.520 like I was just coming back from filming this Silo 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.920 TV show on Apple, you know anyway. 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:17.840 But. 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.560 So then but I was like Pete yo, he had 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:24.640 been sending me some beats. But once I got back, 0:09:25.000 --> 0:09:26.880 I was like, man, let's do this for real, Like 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:30.800 let's do a project and for me like being around 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.199 hip hop, like I sat in in Yankee Stadium and 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:37.720 the show that they had and it was like I 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:41.520 performed on it, but I watched it hip ho yo, 0:09:41.679 --> 0:09:44.240 I watched. I sat in the audience for five and 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:46.439 a half hours. I ain't never did that no show. 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:49.240 I'm seeing Fat Joe, I'm seeing Mob Deep, seeing a 0:09:49.280 --> 0:09:51.479 little Nah, everybody. 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.400 Lauryn hill Snoop ice Cube. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:59.200 It was incredible and I was like, man, this off 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.880 form is still a I love it. The joy that 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:05.160 that we felt at that at that concert, I was like, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.520 people still thirst for this feeling. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:09.640 So that's what you got. The idea of y'all getting together. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.160 We had already started cooking, but it just inspired it more. 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:15.160 The idea was just like, man, I want to make 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.400 some music that I really love and it's just speaking 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:22.839 to me because after listening to so much of what 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:25.600 I was listening to, like, I was like, man, this 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.880 this music is still existing in us. It's not gone, 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:33.679 and we could do something new. Like when you hit 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.280 the music, it's like we ain't do nothing. It's like 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.800 throw back. It's just it's just got the spirit of 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:39.760 what with that. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:45.680 Music collaboration, and I could tell most of it, most 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.839 of it y'all was together, like I could tell, like 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.720 it doesn't it doesn't feel like I was emailing it. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:54.120 I wanted, we wanted the the aura of the nineties. 0:10:54.200 --> 0:10:57.600 That's it, right, And I'm I'm I'm a new peak rock, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:10:59.240 so I'm doing stuff. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:01.360 But you hear some stuff that's. 0:11:01.160 --> 0:11:03.320 That you'd be like, oh, okay, I remember, you know, 0:11:03.520 --> 0:11:05.719 it'll give you some memories of what I used to do. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.600 But you know it's new. You know what I'm saying, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:09.360 it's new music. 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:11.040 So let me ask you. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.680 Because recently I've seen naves post on the on the 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:16.720 ground and he posted a picture of. 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:18.440 I guess. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.360 I guess he was trying to say illmatic and the 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.760 only person that was missing from the picture was notably. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:24.480 I was late. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:29.720 Oh I and you know, you know, in this business, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.120 you know what I'm saying, things like that happened because 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.520 I'm I'll be making beats at home and sometimes don't 0:11:35.520 --> 0:11:38.319 realize the time, right, And I'm like that that. 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:41.040 Was the issue. I was making beats and I looked 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.360 at my watch and I was like, oh damn, I 0:11:43.520 --> 0:11:44.240 just got my card. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.640 Wow. Wow. In communication, because you know, we heard. 0:11:48.480 --> 0:11:51.719 The rumors that you suing him, yea, and yeah, that 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.640 wasn't never happening. You know how it is in the 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:58.320 business when it's like, you know, like, hey, you know 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:04.520 my people, my management noticed this, uh, and I just said, hey, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:05.240 help me get it. 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.320 That's that's all it was. You know what I'm saying. 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:11.840 That's beautiful, but the media makes it something else. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:13.920 That's some of the most beautiful music. 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.040 Let me just say that I was. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:18.800 I was hurt when I heard it, because let me 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:25.200 just think you something, when I heard ill mad, I was. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.559 I was in jail. I was a child in jail. 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:31.800 But that was like reading the Donald's Goings Book. To me, 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:35.560 it was almost better than reading the DOMD because I 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:38.079 knew what he was talking about, and I could smell 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:41.680 the alleys. I could smell. I could smell the world 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:43.920 is yours like I can smell how you made it. 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:48.079 I could smell like so I never want and and. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.720 But you didn't know, not as yet. I didn't know. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:55.800 That's crazy. I saw him, but he wasn't not actually 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:59.040 ally was was that the bigger figure at this time? 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.679 So it was and I was running together and something 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:05.600 called the Last we said, something called Brooklyn Queen's Day. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:08.280 And I remember I only bought him out. Then I 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:10.640 got locked up and then I heard this album called Illmatic, 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:15.120 which I couldn't visually see, but I visually saw it 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:17.080 because it was the first time. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:19.439 I was like, whoa, this is what I want to do. 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.640 Familiarity like that album. 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.559 Man, I think for any MC and really any artist 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.440 is definitely like one of the greatest pieces of art 0:13:29.520 --> 0:13:31.080 that the world has seen. 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:32.560 You're like, yes, you got you. 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:36.959 And man as a writer, I was like, man, I 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:38.959 hadn't heard anybody describing things. 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:40.160 Hope we need to like like that. 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.120 And you and you being from the Bridge, being from 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:49.400 Queens pull your left right, Queen from Queen Block the block. 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:53.719 But but y'all knew what Queens was like about. But 0:13:54.280 --> 0:13:57.080 that was one of the things I loved about that album, 0:13:57.440 --> 0:13:59.760 and I loved about just hip hop is like people 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.959 could describe where they was from. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:06.640 You, you could put put you, it comes in exactly. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.560 They took you to come and then eventually Outcast took 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:10.280 you to Atlanta. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:12.640 You know now took us. 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:14.040 He took us. It took us. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:16.400 It's like watching a movie, bro, It's like watching a 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:19.520 really good movie. Listening Elmatic, Yeah it is. 0:14:19.760 --> 0:14:21.600 Now I want to I'll change the subject a little 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:28.080 bit because this is the hottest topic in hip Hop's 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:33.720 Drake and but you traded bars with Drake and point. 0:14:34.200 --> 0:14:35.720 I remember you called him Canada Drive. 0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:38.160 I was like, I didn't even know. I didn't know 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.320 you can use the soda and this. I was like, 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.240 he's like, you just Canada drives a minute like Canada Drive? 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:46.640 How is it? 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:48.400 So? 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.720 You've been one of the most classic battles ever too. 0:14:53.880 --> 0:14:58.360 But let's let's let's stick let's stick to nowadays. I 0:14:58.440 --> 0:15:03.880 didn't see this coming at all. Pause right, either, we 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:13.280 see j Cole releases, then we see Kendrick, and then 0:15:13.400 --> 0:15:15.840 Kendrick just kept going Gemini. 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.880 I'm blaming the gym. I'm fared to a Gemini. 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:32.240 Literally because you know I'm gonna be honest and I 0:15:32.360 --> 0:15:34.000 know I'm gonna being a little long gated. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:35.040 I remember. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.560 Us happened to like almost I don't want to say 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:44.360 convinced nas, but we was like, got a lot of cars, little. 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.560 Jewelry, but none of that things came fool with me. 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:47.800 We was like, ain't talking about you. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:53.200 And it took nags a while right to like actually, 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.480 in my humble opinion, but with Kendrick and and Drake, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:01.160 it was almost like the game put them together right, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:03.600 Like I don't want to say brownskin and light skin 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:07.960 because that's like so cliche. Well so it's so simplastic. 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.760 But these are the two top everyweight of the new generation. 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.400 It started before they were the top, because it started 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:15.120 like ten years ago. 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:19.200 Did you enjoy this both, y'all? 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:24.080 I mean, I'm team Kendrick all day. Okay, nothing against Drake, Okay, 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.520 I just felt I just feel his energy that Gemini ship. 0:16:28.040 --> 0:16:35.760 Liked listens Gemini game. 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:36.920 I love It's some. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.080 It's some called Geminis in music. 0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:46.400 Lawren hell Andre three thousands se loan. 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.440 People like man. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.960 But I gotta say this though, for me, I always 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.280 thought Kendrick was just like any generation, one of the 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:59.880 top these like like because it's albums, man, his album, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.960 like he really be doing different styles. He don't do 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:06.680 the same thing with his album. So I always have 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.639 you know, just man, this dude is one of the 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:12.240 dopest to me. And then for me, Drake was like, 0:17:12.440 --> 0:17:14.919 it's super talented and know how to make his songs. 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.000 And I give honor that when he won a rhyme, 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:18.720 he can rhyme. 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:20.320 He rhyme. 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.359 So when they started the battle, it was like to me, 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:26.119 it was a heavyweight fight. I was like, I was 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.960 like yo, and I was like yo, okay, well what. 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:29.920 Can you go to say? 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:33.800 You know, like the nick Kenher came back boom boom. 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:35.960 It was just to me it was like one of 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:39.080 the you know, so many battles because we grew up 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.119 in it. Some some ideara to me, one of the 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:45.280 best battles hipopp has ever said, and we all can 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:49.440 make a hit record the disk track got Yo. 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:52.080 Let me just tell you something you just you just 0:17:52.200 --> 0:17:54.000 literally said, want to say, let me just tell you 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:58.680 it's something about listening to Hot ninety seven. In Hot 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.199 ninety seven, excuse me, I know for your motherfuckers, they 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:05.360 don't know that. It's something about listening to your home 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:07.760 radio station when your home. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:10.879 Yes, So I landed, me and my wife and. 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:13.919 I just say to the to the to the car 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.760 service guy put on put on Hot ninety I literally 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:18.760 said ninety seven. 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:26.920 Point one, ninety seven point one, and he puts the 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:30.520 ship on. And that's all I hear, is the Diss records. 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.520 Yes, yes, that's good for hip hop. 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.800 Is it's very good. Realize it. So I actually heard it, 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:42.160 like I was like hold off, Drake, shit is in rotation, 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.320 Kendrick rollout. 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.400 Today's different from before where maybe you needed the radio 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:50.439 station to hit, but now they would drop it on YouTube, 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:52.760 they would dropping on the DSPs that whatever they. 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:58.639 Actually actually really because you know, like I said, I 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.520 had to. I love taking myself out of hip hop 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.800 and watching hip hop as a fan, and I got 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:06.480 to like to see I got to hear our Asap 0:19:06.560 --> 0:19:09.200 Rocky record, I got to hear a Future record, I 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.600 got to hear a Drake record, I got to hear 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:13.840 Kendrick record, and I got to hear it in rotation, 0:19:13.960 --> 0:19:17.399 and that was just like, holy shit. I would have 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:20.600 been this niggas a long time, you know. 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:22.399 What I'm doing to me like I have. 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:26.000 My homies would send me every song that was coming out, 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:29.040 and it'd be niggas from whatever a generation to send me, 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.440 and it was like, damn, this is hip hop. We 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:35.040 all like paying attention and like we were listening. We 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:36.399 listening to the lyrics. 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:37.440 That's what I like. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.760 That's the song about these lyrics, man, And for both 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.360 of them to be honest to come with a concept 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:50.600 this song, like like like when Drake did the pop thing, 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:54.520 I'm not, you know, like I'm not wanting to feel like, yo, 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:57.400 if somebody is passed, I don't know if I would 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:01.159 want to hear. But I still thought conceptually it was 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.520 creative that ship is hell. And then when when Kendrick 0:20:04.800 --> 0:20:09.040 came with to Meet the Grounds, I was like, damn, do. 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.840 A disc shout out to the Alchemists family. 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:12.639 That's it. 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:14.960 I was like, it's crazy when people like did they 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:15.520 go too far? 0:20:15.960 --> 0:20:19.320 I'm like, bro, and this, I don't feel like the 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.440 only thing that is off for me family only is 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.280 not that family. Because Meet the Grounds was amazing. That's 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.119 one of the family ain't off of me. But if 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:33.280 somebody has passed, okay, you know, like some I ain't 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.240 gonna play with the like I gotta honor that because 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:37.480 that's somebody's life. 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:37.719 Man. 0:20:38.040 --> 0:20:40.320 You know. But but if I'm talking about your family 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.840 this part, you know the war water. 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:47.200 Let me ask you, Pete, Yeah, have you ever produced 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.960 a dis record? And then the artists that they just 0:20:51.359 --> 0:20:53.240 get mad at you when you really don't got nothing 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:53.560 to do with it. 0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:55.399 Whose ice cube was a little upset with me? 0:21:02.520 --> 0:21:05.040 Okay described this he took a shot of red wine. 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:05.399 I like that. 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.440 You Yeah, I didn't even know that. 0:21:09.560 --> 0:21:15.399 You didn't I don't know that. I did not know 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:18.680 that didn't know. I didn't know this man. This man 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:23.200 had me feeling bad. Okay, yo, he first was upset. 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:28.240 He's like basket hold on, okay, let's go back to you, 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:35.520 but hold on them. Because Common, this man made no 0:21:35.720 --> 0:21:38.280 Vas one of the best, one of the records of 0:21:38.320 --> 0:21:40.960 all time. So how how did how the funk is 0:21:41.040 --> 0:21:44.879 Common and ice Cube catch beef? How does I don't remember? 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:47.240 Don't remember that it was? What's connection? Okay? No, So 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:48.199 what happened? 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.520 First of all, like I grew up listening to k 0:21:52.080 --> 0:21:56.440 k Rests, Big Daddy came rock him, ice Cube too short, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:21:59.080 Like it wasn't like being in Chicago. We were listening 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:01.879 to all I gravitated to who I gravitated to it? 0:22:01.960 --> 0:22:04.639 But so I wrote, I used to love her, and 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:07.440 I used to love about the evolution of hip hop, 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.000 and I used a woman to describe, you know, hip hop. 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:14.959 One of the most creative records of all time, one 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.320 of my favorite. I never told you this. That's one 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:20.000 of the records I got on love with hip hop. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:28.600 That was the joint. Because I don't know the story, 0:22:28.640 --> 0:22:29.720 So please don't so listen. 0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:33.359 Q was at some point it's crazy case. I remember 0:22:33.400 --> 0:22:36.440 when I first even like I realized he did me. 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:38.760 I was at a show in Chicago. 0:22:39.040 --> 0:22:41.560 Because you said when you used to love her, when 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.600 you said the West Coast part, he did, Yeah, he was. 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:48.240 It was it was crazy. Said she broke to the 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:48.800 West Coast. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:50.600 I said, she broke to the West Coast and that 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.200 was cool around the same time I went away to school. 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.800 I'm a man of expanded who am out of stand 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:57.600 in a way. She probably get her money in l 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.200 a and she did. She got big public. He said 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.480 that the pro black was going out of style. I 0:23:03.600 --> 0:23:05.520 was just talking about how we was losing the pro 0:23:05.640 --> 0:23:07.680 blackness and it wasn't all because of the West Coast. 0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:08.840 I was talking about to. 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.879 Be if you really want to know, when one of 0:23:10.920 --> 0:23:12.879 the things that really made me right I used to 0:23:12.960 --> 0:23:16.119 love her. I honestly was watching some East Coast artists 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:19.879 imitating the West Coast and it made me be like. 0:23:21.200 --> 0:23:22.800 This, this ship is this this, it ain't right. 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:24.120 This we the tribes. 0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.200 I know what New York is like because New York 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.800 is representing that tribe. We know what the West Coast 0:23:28.920 --> 0:23:36.520 is like. So I was like, So I was like, man, 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.680 I definitely didn't want want to just in fact, I 0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:42.920 had cubes the record in the video, like, I was 0:23:43.200 --> 0:23:45.679 honering a lot of the hip hop. So one day 0:23:45.720 --> 0:23:47.359 I'm sitting about to do a show. I'm in the 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.000 car with my homie, my homie ros Son and it's 0:23:50.200 --> 0:23:53.240 in King T King T from the West and somebody said, Yo, 0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.359 cute this you on this song. So we playing the 0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:59.680 song and I'm listening. I'm like, damn this nigga, this 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:02.280 is me. He was like, no, he ain't this. Ain't 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:07.919 this your like this nigga, this is me? Its connection. 0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.240 It was on the West Side connection record Q was 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:12.440 like First of all, I was like, I can't see 0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:14.560 how you go and not say this is this? He said, 0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:17.639 all you niggas wanted this the specific, but you nigga, 0:24:17.720 --> 0:24:20.359 your niggas never get specific. I used to love her 0:24:20.480 --> 0:24:23.080 mad becusin we fucked up pussy with bitch with no 0:24:23.280 --> 0:24:29.720 common sense. That was the record. 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:34.080 So, I mean my first reaction was like, damn Ice 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:38.800 Cuban know who I am. I was mad. 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:39.880 I was mad, I got mad. 0:24:40.080 --> 0:24:42.520 I was mad for for sure, and I was like, man, 0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.960 And then I saw them popping off at on like 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:47.840 Rap City one time with Big. 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:49.880 Glass, and then I saw them in Atlanta. 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:53.960 I saw West West Side Connection with Macataine, and I 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:55.840 was with my homies, and I think they just was 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.159 like thinking, I'm just a backpack nigga. But I'm with 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.160 my guys and they had our something, we had out something. 0:25:01.240 --> 0:25:04.359 We're like, what's up, we're here. I think they knew, like, Okay, 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:06.800 this stude the real dude. But then I was like, 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.159 I remember spitting the ride. I wrote the bitch in You. 0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:11.720 I wrote it, wrote the first verse to the to 0:25:11.840 --> 0:25:14.680 these ch arrests instrumentals, and I had the first verse, 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:16.239 and I was going out rapping when I was out 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:18.240 with Daylight did it on the West Coast and everything, 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:20.200 and a lot of people was cats. 0:25:20.240 --> 0:25:21.400 Didn't want to mess with the beat. 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:25.040 But I was scared, scared after I heard him. 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.680 But listen, I hope that would tell him like that 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:31.480 you said, I was. 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:35.479 I was mad. I didn't even make the beat at 0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.280 my house. I didn't even make the bet. He comes 0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:40.240 to see you in the studio is this Green Street studio? 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:43.159 He came to the hood, and first I had to 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.480 calm him down and drive him around the hood, like, Yo, 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:48.120 let's go get somebody, Let's go see some women. 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:50.720 Let's go introduce you to some people. 0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:54.080 Right, and then he and then we went to my 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:56.960 man's house where he had a stack of records. You know, 0:25:57.040 --> 0:25:59.400 I'm going through the records and I'm like, I see 0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:02.280 this record, start playing it and I heard this loop 0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.159 and I was like, m and he heard it. 0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:06.920 Then he was like, yo, Pete, do something with that. 0:26:07.520 --> 0:26:09.960 And but you knew that he was going to make 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:11.040 this record. You knew that. 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:13.919 You knew that, Okay. At this point he drove him 0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:14.439 around and. 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:22.359 You know, I was like you. 0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:27.879 So, you know, and then we just you know, he 0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.240 heard the loop. Then I got these drums. 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.200 I made it at my man rob O's house, who 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.680 was a member of this group called iron Ie. The 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.040 record I made called Fick and Jack's right at his 0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.280 house and he had records and equipment, and I just 0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:44.600 came up with the beat and come and stop bothering 0:26:44.680 --> 0:26:47.119 his head, like, Yo, this one right here. Maybe this 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:49.440 is the first beat I made, because I was gonna 0:26:49.480 --> 0:26:52.400 make beats. But the first one I made, he picked 0:26:52.440 --> 0:26:54.560 it and said, I'm gonna run with this one. 0:26:54.680 --> 0:26:55.120 Let me ask. 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:56.680 And that's why I wrote the second verse to it 0:26:56.760 --> 0:26:57.920 after he made that beat. 0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:02.440 Let me ask you, because ice Cube was like a 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:07.320 hard opponent to GoGet, like how do you gash yourself up? 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.840 Or how do you like come up with that? 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.320 Because I ain't gonna lie And this is me being one. 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:15.680 If ice Q might have dis me, I might have 0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:21.640 let him ride, like, Man, I don't mind. 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.840 I don't want to ice that. He's one of those mcs, Like, but. 0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.560 So what's going to your mom? You're sitting there, you 0:27:29.720 --> 0:27:32.920 like you about to go get one of the greatest. 0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.480 Time and like you said, no vacaine is that's the 0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:41.920 coldest specificate, the greatest sim seeds all the time. But 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.040 I was just like, man, I'm gonna have to light 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:49.080 I'm gonna have to light him up, man. And I 0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:56.280 believed in myself. Man sat down, Yo Yo, I was 0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:59.520 like yo, and the vincuit you. And then I was like, man, 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.760 I just knew I had I could do what I 0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.640 needed to do on the back and I wouldn't gonna 0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.359 go around. I'm going directract like this this how this 0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:11.600 is how we battle this how like you know who 0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.800 is coming to and and and I just felt to 0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.879 be honest that I had enough because because I was 0:28:17.920 --> 0:28:19.640 a fan of his, I had enough things I could 0:28:19.680 --> 0:28:22.480 even I was using a lot of things that he 0:28:22.600 --> 0:28:25.680 had done. But let me be clear now, Cubans, my 0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:28.560 guy been in in this movie, one of the barbershop movies, 0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:32.000 got Ultimate Water Orange, and we were grateful to Minister 0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:35.200 fair Con at the time brought us all together together. 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:39.880 How serious it was getting that. I feel like he 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.520 doesn't get involved unless something. 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:43.080 He brought us together. 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:47.400 Literally, like a week after Biggie got killed, he was like, yo, 0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:49.480 this this pocket already died. 0:28:49.920 --> 0:28:51.880 I could got killed, Biggie died. 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:54.440 He brought it. He brought us together. And and and 0:28:54.920 --> 0:28:57.240 casts like, you know, we're just like, man, we ain't 0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.800 trying to die. We want to live like this this 0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.400 something for us to live. You know, I'm a battery, 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.920 you know, but you young at the time, You're like, 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.480 you don't know what's gonna happen you and and it's 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.680 for real, but you know, I like when it's when 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.280 it's just on wax man, you know. 0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:12.200 Is it true? 0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.320 You the first time you performed it or you performed 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:15.640 it in l A was one of the first times. 0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:17.240 Yeah, one of the times I performed in l A. 0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:18.120 It was crazy. 0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:25.360 But he was there at the Gavin. You remember, y'all 0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:28.840 remember the gap that Tendon was at the Gavin. You 0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:30.960 know it's all love with maxindam No, but but that 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:33.000 saying I was on the West Coast. I was like, 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:33.880 whatever's gonna happen? 0:29:34.080 --> 0:29:34.320 Happen? 0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:36.520 You know, I was in that that type of mentality, 0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.600 and then it's crazy. I was on the show and 0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:41.840 it was West Coast, was at the House of Blues, 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.360 and man, I just was like, man, what's gonna happen? 0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.240 Is gonna happen? My father was even there. You know, 0:29:47.720 --> 0:29:51.000 it's gonna be the only this record I've ever produced ever. 0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:57.160 Like you, I said that was poland that's good for me. 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:07.440 It's a classic. Yeah, but god damn, Bed, that was crazy. 0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:08.000 At that time. 0:30:08.080 --> 0:30:11.040 I'm like, like you said, you were looked at like 0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.959 a backpack round. I didn't thinking. 0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:18.200 Yeah, for lack of a better term, come this hard, Yeah, hard, yeah, 0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:22.600 hard man. I don't think none of us saw that. 0:30:23.280 --> 0:30:25.840 No, I ain't gonna front. That was a lot of niggas. 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:27.920 It wasn't like fucking with me or just like he 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:29.320 wanted them a backpack. 0:30:29.440 --> 0:30:29.720 Dudes. 0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.680 I had dudes come up to me and be like, man, 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:35.080 when I heard the bitch of you, I was like, okay, 0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:40.640 like respected me at that point. But you know, sometimes 0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.680 it does that the battles. The battles can get that 0:30:42.920 --> 0:30:45.120 get that out of you. It's like in sports and 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:48.800 in a lot of things, you know. But yeah, even 0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.960 we saw that with the battle with it just happened 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:55.000 like because I mean to me, when you delivering a 0:30:55.080 --> 0:30:58.240 battle to it just kind of raises the like your 0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:00.560 your artistry up in a way because it's like, Okay, 0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:02.880 I can make these records. I can make a record 0:31:02.880 --> 0:31:05.040 about a woman, I can make a record about what 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:06.920 life is to me. I can make rem in this 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.800 So I can. But but I can also get into 0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:13.000 this and into this, to this battle, to this war 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:13.760 and do. 0:31:13.840 --> 0:31:14.480 What I need to do. 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.760 Yeah, Now, your name been brought on so many times 0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:21.479 on this show, right especially, I want to get back 0:31:21.480 --> 0:31:24.440 into the Drake things, just likely a little bit because. 0:31:25.920 --> 0:31:28.160 What was what was the Drake thing over so the 0:31:28.240 --> 0:31:28.680 Drake thing? 0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:32.160 The Drake thing was more like I ain't into like 0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.520 what you said, like when you when y'all was telling 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:37.080 knives man, I think he dissing you. 0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.800 But I felt like Drake was sending me a couple 0:31:39.840 --> 0:31:40.560 of shots. 0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:50.280 At the light skin karate class. It really I think 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:50.920 it started. 0:31:51.160 --> 0:31:54.280 I don't know what motivated him to send me some shots, 0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:57.600 but I think what for sure had me. 0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.280 If I'm just being real, like. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.000 You know, we mess with one of the same girls, 0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:04.400 blah blah blah, the same story. Yeah, the same story 0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.040 that you hear a block about it. You know, war's 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:16.960 happened over women, Wars happened over women. 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:17.880 That's just what it is. 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:21.960 I mean, but I wouldn't. I ain't the type this gone. 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.880 I ain't gonna get at you if you know, if 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.160 you with somebody else with I don't know that's the dude. 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:28.520 But you start throwing me a. 0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:30.960 Couple of littles, you know, you're trying to throw some jass. 0:32:31.240 --> 0:32:34.480 You know yo, And I'm like, man, okay. 0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:36.760 And then once I found you know, once I felt 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:41.000 like they really remember they dropped the state scheming and 0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.760 my homie called me black Calls. He was like and 0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:46.880 he was like, man, he talking talking to you or that, 0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:48.880 And at that point I was like, man, I just 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:51.760 I can't even I just gotta over the I just 0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:55.680 got to it wasn't even a sche we couldn't tell, 0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.800 like because that's that's what That's why I was like, 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:05.720 we couldn't tell. So that's why I was like, Hey, 0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:07.680 I'm gonna let you know, like right now, this is 0:33:07.680 --> 0:33:09.840 what So if you're coming at me, you don't know 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.720 who it is coming at you coming. 0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:12.960 And it was great. 0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:16.160 It was great that wrap and it was crazy, is 0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.280 no idea at that point shout out to know I 0:33:19.600 --> 0:33:19.920 want to know? 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.760 Yeah, shout he he. 0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:25.440 He was like, because I had all these bars and 0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:28.080 he was like, bro, you can't go to hog, just 0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.480 wait because it might be another round. 0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.200 And he was like the youngest generation, don't. 0:33:33.040 --> 0:33:35.560 Go that hard. And I was like, I was like 0:33:35.680 --> 0:33:37.960 what and man, because all I know is to go 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.400 all out and we're I'm talking about I would pick 0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:47.200 up what I got to pick up. When he told 0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:49.520 me that, I was like, okay, So I took out 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:50.720 a few lines blah blah blah. 0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.040 But and then you know, we had it. 0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.520 And I eventually saw Drake face to face and I 0:33:57.680 --> 0:33:59.600 was at a point where you know, I was like, 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:03.440 what's up? And we just we had little little little 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:07.400 words and then over and then his father, his father 0:34:07.600 --> 0:34:10.200 was there and it was like, y'all need to squash this. 0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:11.919 And I was like, man, this is an elder talking 0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.160 to me. This is man father. 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:13.600 Let me. 0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:14.920 Let me chill out. 0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.600 And then Drake just was like we talked and he 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:20.439 was like, man, I ain't on this, blah blah blah. 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:22.840 So we just squashed. I was like, listen, if we 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:28.279 face the face in it, and then I'm even if 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.560 it was some subliminal distance. I said what I had 0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.040 to say. Right now we're saying we're squashing it is 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:33.680 We're good. 0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:35.760 So I've been good. Listen. 0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.799 Do you know what I think is trash is when 0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.120 people see each other face the face and didn't do 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:43.759 it after. 0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.919 Don't over battle, That's what I say, the honest don't 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:50.839 over battle. Do it for the fun, you know, try 0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.279 to stay in respectable you know. 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:53.759 Yep. 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:57.480 I mean that's the only thing that I'm seeing that 0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.719 right now. And I don't want to say the people 0:34:59.840 --> 0:35:07.360 name certain people. Sometimes you go too far, Like I 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:10.160 always if I have a battle with you, if we 0:35:10.280 --> 0:35:16.120 were battling and we don't hate each other, uh, there's 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:18.919 always room to fix it. But when you start saying 0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.560 certain things about certain ship when you can't you can't. 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.000 You can't fix that, you can't fix it, so say 0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:25.080 something personal. I don't. 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.960 I don't like that part, but I do love battling. 0:35:28.080 --> 0:35:31.719 I love like like like you know, uh, face to 0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.640 face you know, yeah, I mean like, yeah, I love that. 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.640 I can't. Yeah, right, all right, I love that. But 0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:46.520 this new generation that's bad and social media change every day. 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.680 That's what it was, like media change it or I'm 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:52.640 glad my battles in it like happened a lot during 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.480 the social media age because you gotta like you gotta 0:35:55.560 --> 0:35:58.400 add that element to it, in which I think they 0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:03.120 did a kid and this like they was like had strategy. 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:04.440 Use going on. 0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:09.360 Everybody's a private investigator. You got private investigators. Are they 0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:12.440 private investigators or they have private investigators. I don't know, 0:36:12.680 --> 0:36:17.640 like like yeah, they bring it up red files and 0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.080 ship they took it up. 0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.440 But not okay, let's let's let's let's I'm gonna switch it. 0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:23.239 Get your piece. 0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:28.080 We get the piece because you know what need I 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.000 needed you to talk about this. I needed and especially 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:35.880 you pee because you're you're very non confrontational, very like 0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.480 you're not about that and you not about that. But 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.840 the fact is that you both and I did not remember. 0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:44.680 I knew that you did reduce that, but I didn't remember. 0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:49.719 It. I okay, I forgot. And when space turned red 0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:54.200 is it? I didn't know this man? Okay. But before 0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.479 we change the subject, when did you see ice Cube? 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.880 What did he say to you? He said, he come, 0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:07.359 he's good. Bro. You had to respect over with. It's 0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:07.759 all good. 0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.080 It's crazy when we were doing when we was doing 0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.480 the barbershop movie in the Shottown, we actually were we 0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.719 filmed it in Atlanta, but it's you know, it's basically yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:20.320 of course, so Cuban. At one point we was about 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.319 to it was crazy because it's like a movie. At 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.120 one point were just about to have him talk or 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.919 hide it all. Like as soon as we started talking, 0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:28.920 he got a phone call and it was like we 0:37:29.160 --> 0:37:36.600 never we never discussed that was Jesus positive positive Now 0:37:36.640 --> 0:37:38.320 we didn't when we were talking about it wasn't like 0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:40.560 it was just like it was almost like one of 0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:42.360 the moments like you know, you got into it. 0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.799 Somebody like look, man, this is why I even came 0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:46.120 into like this blah blah. 0:37:46.320 --> 0:37:47.719 But we didn't even get to that bark at that 0:37:47.840 --> 0:37:50.480 point that he ain't want to talk about that's what 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:52.280 you know what under the bridge. 0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:55.240 His whole attitude about. 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.360 It was like, yeah, yeah it was, Yes, it was 0:37:57.480 --> 0:37:58.600 twenty years later, but I. 0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:02.120 Mean it's good history of hip hop history that let's 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.600 be clear. I still I feel still for like Ce 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.160 got a little bit of pettiness in him. Yeah, I 0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:07.799 would never ba. 0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:12.879 One of our biggest arguments on Drink Champs is which 0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:15.759 I love. I'm just biting Tony Yayo back just for 0:38:15.880 --> 0:38:17.520 him and e FN argument like. 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:31.120 This ship my favorite because he been a lot of 0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:33.680 people don't know he's actually from l A. But that 0:38:33.760 --> 0:38:38.960 doesn't l A. But that doesn't, you know, make his 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.279 decisions because of that. He's really an ice Cube fan 0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:48.440 and Yo was really it's really a Biggie fan. And 0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:49.319 when YAlO was. 0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:51.920 Saying, he was like, you you've never seen you never 0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:54.640 felt when Biggie dropped, and I'm. 0:38:54.520 --> 0:39:03.839 Like, yes, yes, Yo agreed, he's tough. 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:09.160 That was the most quietness I've ever been on I 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:11.040 agree with both sides, and I said, I don't. 0:39:11.040 --> 0:39:13.920 I don't want Biggie lived long enough to have the 0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:16.520 discography that it just didn't happen. 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.440 Biggy, I got to see America's most want to go 0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.200 down in Green Street because that's what Ice you produced, 0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:26.399 That's what he did that album in New York. 0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.000 Out of here by the way to speak up the 0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:36.440 Pete rock you brother the Green Street. Let me let 0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.440 me tell you. Another thing that you probably don't know 0:39:39.920 --> 0:39:44.960 is me and pun and you were on that record Records. 0:39:45.640 --> 0:39:48.080 Fun has made a vow that we was going to 0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:50.560 start doing people's records, and it's doing these features. 0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:53.880 I didn't even know. I requested you though I got you. 0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.880 So that was the first time me and me and 0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:02.800 one had been but we had never been in the 0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:03.400 studio together. 0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.320 And I remember this Green Street studio that it's a 0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:07.160 famous picture of me and you. I was skinny. 0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:09.960 I got to get back to my life. I was 0:40:10.040 --> 0:40:13.440 skinny with the cardiac glasses. And I remember and I 0:40:14.000 --> 0:40:17.279 never told you this neither. I remember just me. That 0:40:17.400 --> 0:40:19.560 was also the quietest I've ever been. I just looked 0:40:19.560 --> 0:40:21.440 at you and said what do I need to do? 0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:24.440 And you said this, this and that, and I did 0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:25.080 not got you. 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.160 This is on video. I listened comment. I did not argue. 0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:29.719 I did not. 0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:34.800 I did everything. I did not want him, Like, this 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:36.880 is Pete Rock. I did not want him. This is 0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.839 this hold on, hold on, hold on, let me get 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.480 your flowers. This was a testing point for me as 0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.600 my career. Like Pete Rock called and I was like, 0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:46.480 did he called? 0:40:47.239 --> 0:40:49.239 I was like, you know this. You know we had 0:40:49.280 --> 0:40:49.960 beepers and ship. 0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:53.920 So I was like, Pete called and I was like, yo, 0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:56.880 this is Green Streak Recording Studios. 0:40:57.040 --> 0:41:00.799 I remember I called aver Rex and I was like, yo, 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:01.719 I gotta have an. 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:04.080 That. 0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:07.360 I gotta look good with that. And I was asking 0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:09.400 you about it, and I'm like, when you get that jacket, 0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:14.960 I was like, I remember, I just came from out here. 0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:17.719 I forget. I don't want to do it. But that 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:21.320 ship was a legendary moment in my life. And you 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.480 saw it. You saw it in me like you you 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:25.440 were one of the first. 0:41:29.160 --> 0:41:31.520 You want to. 0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.560 Three sixties. That's what I do. I bring people together. 0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.800 As you were saying that, I fast forward to to 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.520 where we are now, and I was thinking, like, to 0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.319 be honest, like working with Pete for me now is like, Yo, 0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.720 as much as I'm used to being a solo artist, 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.640 I'm a solo artist, you know, and not many producers. 0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.759 Sometimes they just give you the beat and and they 0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.239 let you go. And and Pete did that some of 0:41:59.320 --> 0:42:02.920 that that, but it was I really appreciate it. When 0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:05.799 he would would guide me too. He was if someone right. 0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.600 He would be like, yo, I need you to do this, 0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.440 that like, let's straighten this out, let's do that, and 0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:12.480 it was it felt like. 0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.560 That's being a producer. That's a producer. 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:16.799 I felt that he was Nigga too. He gonna say 0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:21.560 it's mooth, but you know what it mean. I make 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.560 you do it eight times. But I love that. And 0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:25.759 to me, that's iron. 0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.399 Shopping's iron, like you like, okay, man, I'm a i'm 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.879 a this record gonna come out better. This song will 0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.120 come out better because he putting that type of soul 0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:38.360 and energy into it. And when you were saying like 0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.320 like us being able to get together, for me, I 0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.000 was like, damn, I'm sitting here with Pete Rock. 0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.160 He playing records. I'm hearing records that he's. 0:42:49.080 --> 0:42:52.000 Like, you want to use this and that, watching him 0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:54.000 shop up something. Let's try these ideas. 0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:54.719 Man. 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.920 What we always loved about this music, I kind of 0:42:58.000 --> 0:43:01.239 got to do on this album, like like just sitting 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:02.680 down rocking experience. 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:06.759 Everyone should experience. Man, it's just if you are and 0:43:07.120 --> 0:43:10.480 you know, working in the physical is way better emailing 0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:13.120 somebody some beats and ship like that. That's when I 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:14.040 felt the album heard. 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:21.359 That's when I knew, Yo, that's what That's what That's 0:43:21.400 --> 0:43:23.839 what I felt like. That's when I knew we could 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.960 make a project as special because it was coming out 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.080 to his crib and sitting there and him going through 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:33.840 music and then even him sending me records Like what 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:37.320 I was like, this is the process that it's always 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:39.600 been the best when I'm working with a producer. That's 0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.879 how I got to work with Dyla when it was Hey, 0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:45.120 it was for me and Pete. We got, I mean, 0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.520 we got everybody got their own special connection. But it's 0:43:47.520 --> 0:43:49.880 also to just to buy Like I ain't you know, 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.680 I ain't into just people sending me music and then 0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:54.240 I do the song and I ain't. 0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:54.840 Never met the person. 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:56.600 You know, I was on this Dude, I was on 0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:00.080 court as I was on this court a record, and 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:01.920 I had never met the producer. I'm on the plane 0:44:01.960 --> 0:44:04.760 and he tells me, Yo, you're on one of my records. 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:06.880 I'm like, it's strange to me. 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:12.600 Like that ytimate work. But you know what I'm saying. 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:14.680 I know we do a lot of work, but sometimes 0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:18.840 you know, it gets it gets lost, you don't remember, like, 0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:19.759 oh ship I did that. 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.840 Yeah, yeah, But. 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:26.279 I'm about to say me and I fanabitis argument all 0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:30.280 the time. We don't. We have Major Independent. I always 0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.880 say I like Major, and he says he likes Independent. 0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:35.440 But when I say Maker, When I say Major, the 0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:38.080 reason why I say I like Major is because I can. 0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.640 Have the budget to fly this artist and if he's 0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:46.960 not if this what I mean. 0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.360 More since today, But that's that's the reason why I 0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.680 pick it Major, Because if I want to work with 0:44:59.800 --> 0:45:03.200 con I'm in and back then we had an eight 0:45:03.280 --> 0:45:06.320 inch rail, I would have to go to Chicago and 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:08.719 go work with him and me and people get him 0:45:08.719 --> 0:45:10.560 the flight like we was on a flight together today 0:45:10.800 --> 0:45:13.000 and get to the flight and we produced it. That's 0:45:13.040 --> 0:45:15.280 what made that's why I picked Major more is because 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.480 of the assets of that finances, that. 0:45:18.680 --> 0:45:21.080 That that that provides that you got to recoup what 0:45:21.239 --> 0:45:22.000 you got to recool. 0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.440 Of course, yes, but that's the reason why I always 0:45:24.480 --> 0:45:26.719 picked Major is because of course of that like, and 0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.320 I also always picked analog. 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:31.040 Yeah, yeah, I like analog more than digital. 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.920 You don't even have your experience with analog coming to 0:45:34.040 --> 0:45:36.920 see people like me and Premier, you have all these 0:45:37.000 --> 0:45:40.880 other producers that worked with analog. It's the most important 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.759 sound music period that gave you that. 0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.960 Fact like that, that's that it captures the energy in 0:45:47.000 --> 0:45:49.600 the room, the music, and it's the soul in that 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:52.360 in that In analog too, I. 0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.120 Didn't know how to punch in. Yeah, I didn't know. 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:59.360 I don't know, didn't punch it. It wasn't as the 0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:03.960 one one you never heard. You got to tell him 0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:07.719 about the hook? Oh yeah, what what what what? That's 0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:09.000 how I counted bars? What what? 0:46:09.120 --> 0:46:09.160 What? 0:46:09.239 --> 0:46:09.759 What? What? What? 0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:09.920 What? 0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:10.800 What? 0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:11.160 What? What? 0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:11.279 What? 0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:11.560 What? 0:46:11.760 --> 0:46:11.800 What? 0:46:16.360 --> 0:46:17.800 Everyone got a method today? 0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:22.800 You know that ship. Yes, that's the one that I 0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:26.319 was nervous. I was crazy. I was nervous sound. 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.280 But I gotta say something about that though, because Pete 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:35.920 always we'll be talking about James Brown and man, that's 0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:38.239 the fact that you's ad lived that and that was 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.759 just just coming you know just what I'm saying, this 0:46:40.880 --> 0:46:43.879 is my thing, but it became something so like that's 0:46:44.000 --> 0:46:46.160 one of the biggest joint in hip hop. 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.520 You were hear something funny about James Brown. I met 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:53.759 James Brown and Pharrell. Ironically, it was a bm My 0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:58.960 Awards for Forarrell and justin Timberlake, and I walked over 0:46:59.000 --> 0:46:59.600 to James Brown. 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.399 I was like, hey man, you know, he's so nice 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:03.440 to meet you. And I could tell he knew. He 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:07.839 did not know, but his nephew or whoever leaned over 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:10.400 and was like, that's the rapper, that's the rapper. 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.600 And he turned around. He was like, keep saying the 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:24.400 ship niggas Brown you got you gotta think about it. 0:47:24.680 --> 0:47:26.520 All the early records of hip hop is one of 0:47:26.560 --> 0:47:29.880 the most simple, the most sensible. But you don't care 0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.200 if you a rapper up. He just thinks you're sampled. 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:34.759 He's the most sample. But he has some albums that 0:47:35.239 --> 0:47:39.840 that people ain't listening and these James. 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:40.480 Brownd songs like. 0:47:43.600 --> 0:47:47.360 I'm just saying I still need to beat kids, you 0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.640 know what I mean, like Baked Beans and do whatever. 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:51.840 But but that feeling of what I'm saying is what 0:47:52.000 --> 0:47:54.799 what like Super Doug is like it's a feeling too, 0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:57.520 Like that's what we got in them records And James Brown, 0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:00.239 you know like hear me on the one that like 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.880 he rehearsed that he's just in there giving the feeling. 0:48:03.160 --> 0:48:05.759 So that honestly one of the what's craziest one of 0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:11.239 on the Song of Light for me, like one of 0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:13.359 the most said lyrics for me on the Song of Light, 0:48:13.400 --> 0:48:15.560 which is you know a love song blah blah blah. 0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:18.960 Is when I say took a tire, took a tire, 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:20.080 took a ticket to time. 0:48:20.440 --> 0:48:23.600 Now what's crazy is I didn't have my first finish, 0:48:24.040 --> 0:48:32.879 so I just like cio tar and what I'm saying 0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:35.200 it was like and when I tried to change and 0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:39.920 write something, it just didn't feel I'm keeping that plan. 0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:43.080 It was like a reference and I never did a 0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:45.640 take that was better. So I just left in the ticket. 0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:47.719 And to this day, when I put on that song, 0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:53.600 that's what the crowd say, the tar and that. When 0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:55.040 I heard that, I was like, that's the magic of 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:57.800 the feeling the divine. 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:03.920 That was some nor slash food ship. What all of 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:07.759 us do is magic, bro Yep, you he does do 0:49:08.520 --> 0:49:09.959 all magic. 0:49:15.120 --> 0:49:15.320 You know. 0:49:16.280 --> 0:49:16.440 You know. 0:49:18.280 --> 0:49:20.040 That's why me and has been kind of started this 0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:25.279 show is because to me, if you participated in hip hop. 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:28.600 You're a fucking hero to a certain state. 0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:32.200 Like like like you know how hard it is for 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:35.439 you to be famous or half famous or whatever whatever 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:36.440 version of you is. 0:49:36.719 --> 0:49:42.120 We can never take our costume off, like I envy 0:49:42.200 --> 0:49:47.719 the construction worker, envy the McDonald's off their uniform, like 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.840 I envy them, like I can't take it off and on. 0:49:52.080 --> 0:49:55.120 I always think about like hip hop artists. Man, it's 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.680 like they superheroes in so many ways because think about this, you, 0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:03.520 your life and where we come from. You took your 0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:07.440 life and gave it to people and people want to 0:50:07.520 --> 0:50:11.320 be like that it affected, they lie. That's called inspiration 0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:13.920 for you. Like that, like that's the creative working through you. 0:50:14.200 --> 0:50:16.120 You just did what you was supposed to do and 0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.719 people like think about how many people have listened to 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:21.440 you been affected and you just took your aura, just 0:50:21.520 --> 0:50:24.320 giving your aura in the song like all every experience 0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:26.560 you give. And that's what's so dope about hip hop 0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:29.200 because we ain't got We don't have the polish of 0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:33.520 the pop and and all that, you know, meaning like nobody, 0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.279 nobody's coached you and how to be you. Like where 0:50:37.280 --> 0:50:39.839 you see some artists, you're like, okay, they've been, they 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.920 went through that, through that machine, and that's how you know, 0:50:42.960 --> 0:50:46.000 they become the big the boy bands or whatever. 0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.000 And it's those rough edges that make hip hop special. 0:50:48.960 --> 0:50:53.399 And also mistakes made in the studios like oh ship 0:50:53.520 --> 0:50:54.440 leave it in that you. 0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:59.000 Know, and people you know, obviously, people in certain genres 0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:02.320 of music, they don't like when I get to perform 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:06.200 sometimes with the symphonies and stuff, you know, and I'm like, man, 0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:09.239 it's two different worlds. I appreciate being able to have 0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:11.480 all the streams and blah blah blah, but it's such 0:51:11.520 --> 0:51:14.400 a rigid thing. I'd be like, I'll be bringing them 0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:17.759 to our world as much as possible. It's like hip 0:51:17.800 --> 0:51:20.360 hop is like that that what you just said, the mistakes, 0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.759 the freedom, the revolution in it. It's like, man, this 0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:26.160 is this is I'll be like, man, thank you God 0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:33.040 for putting me in hip hop, honestly, but even you know, 0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:36.399 to be honest, even though if going into the acting world, 0:51:36.440 --> 0:51:39.080 people ask you, people say to me, you're a rapper, 0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:40.799 so should be able to act. Now now, I don't 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:44.000 believe that it's a different discipline, but being able to 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.560 go and like do what we experienced y'all know what 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:49.680 it takes for us to make these records, to go 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:52.759 get these records, to go get going to the club. 0:51:52.800 --> 0:51:54.719 I remember, man, we used to have to go to 0:51:54.840 --> 0:51:57.839 the radio station earlier in morning, go to the barbershops, 0:51:58.080 --> 0:51:58.400 go to. 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:01.719 The club because of a promotional. 0:52:04.520 --> 0:52:13.359 Mind popping. You don't get paid for that type of work. 0:52:13.560 --> 0:52:16.120 That type of work, man, is like to me, like 0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:18.239 it helped it shape you for like a lot of 0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:21.200 stuff that we need to go into in business and 0:52:21.280 --> 0:52:22.000 all type of shit. 0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:26.200 You know, you know it's you know, you're fucking me 0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:29.279 up right now, you know what's the crazy thing? My 0:52:29.400 --> 0:52:34.080 next question was to both for y'all. My next question 0:52:34.239 --> 0:52:40.640 was because me sometimes I don't I'm scared to speak 0:52:40.680 --> 0:52:44.719 to the younger generation. I don't know if this makes sense, 0:52:44.760 --> 0:52:46.120 but let me try to make it make as much 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.200 sense as it can't. Like what you just said, I 0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:53.520 want the next younger artist to hear that from you. 0:52:56.520 --> 0:52:59.239 But this generation that came, and I'm gonna say it, 0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:03.919 and they're gonna they're gonna be mad at me. They're 0:53:04.000 --> 0:53:08.719 like dumb, like like they have one track. Think I'm 0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:13.840 not saying you can't generation, I can't love the whole generation. 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:17.920 It because like, look, look what I just said to you. 0:53:18.080 --> 0:53:20.960 I said, I'm so honored to being with the studio 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:22.800 with you. I literally didn't talk. 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:23.000 Back to you. 0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:27.600 I'm just like, yes, let But that's because I feel 0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:30.400 like the generation that we came from, what it was 0:53:30.440 --> 0:53:34.160 about respect. It was about respecting your eldest. We're giving 0:53:34.200 --> 0:53:37.040 you something good, yes, yes, And where as of now 0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:41.719 they want they want to test the eldest. Like it's 0:53:41.760 --> 0:53:43.759 just even like we as we said with you and Drake, 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.839 like God bless God, blessed Drake. But he was never 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:49.960 supposed to come at you because of your seniority to 0:53:50.080 --> 0:53:52.160 hip hop already it was supposed to You're supposed to 0:53:52.160 --> 0:53:54.280 be off limits. Like there's certain people that are supposed 0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:56.840 to be off to be as about Common. You know 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:58.399 what I'm saying, It's not supposed to be as wrecking 0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:03.160 about Pee. So so let me make this question makes sense. 0:54:03.880 --> 0:54:07.160 Is sometimes I'm scared to reach out to the young generation, 0:54:07.320 --> 0:54:07.760 Like I've. 0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:09.880 Your city. 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:16.480 Your city has some of the youngest, wildest, and I 0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:26.000 imagine if Common reaches out to little Monster, you'll reach 0:54:26.040 --> 0:54:28.799 out to little Monster and like yo yo yo yo, bro, 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:30.600 I just want you to know I've been through everything 0:54:30.640 --> 0:54:33.439 you've been through. You know what I'm saying. The chicks 0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:36.960 that you you dated, I've dated though. You know, the 0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:39.640 wars that you've been through. I've been through the war. 0:54:40.280 --> 0:54:43.520 Like is it easy for Is that an easy thing? 0:54:43.520 --> 0:54:46.080 Because it's not an easy thing for me. Comment Pete, 0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.040 I'm gonna be honest with you. 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.080 The minute I try to talk to a young dude 0:54:50.120 --> 0:54:51.640 and I feel like they're not listening, I'm like, I 0:54:51.680 --> 0:54:56.879 got better things than you do. I'm sorry, I'm about guy. 0:54:56.960 --> 0:54:58.880 I know this, I know this. I came to the 0:54:58.960 --> 0:55:00.879 realization I'm looking abou over in the mirror and I said, 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:03.440 I'm not that mad. I'm not that good of a person, right, 0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:07.279 but like it close to that. You know what I'm saying, 0:55:07.320 --> 0:55:10.960 because I listened. I listened to. 0:55:11.080 --> 0:55:14.040 KRS, I listened to Rock Kim, I listened to Big 0:55:14.120 --> 0:55:16.799 Daddy k My eyeberas are thick because I cut my shit. 0:55:18.360 --> 0:55:22.960 You just dropped, just dropped the gym. That was Actually 0:55:23.120 --> 0:55:24.359 that was when you were saying. 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.960 One of the for me, I think one of the 0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:31.000 things that the younger generation didn't feel like we did 0:55:31.239 --> 0:55:35.320 is listen to them like and like, you know, like 0:55:35.440 --> 0:55:37.960 we had people that was older than us and just said, like, 0:55:38.239 --> 0:55:40.520 including parents, it's like, yo, you do what I say, 0:55:40.600 --> 0:55:42.640 do it that, blah blah blah, and and some of 0:55:42.719 --> 0:55:43.120 that work. 0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:44.760 I'm glad that my mother gave. 0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:47.040 Me some of that discipline and something, but some of 0:55:47.120 --> 0:55:49.680 it is like you know, we we came from a 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:52.200 generation too where we're like, yo, this is the purest 0:55:52.280 --> 0:55:54.800 we from the nineties, but where we didn't. 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:56.640 Listen to them and kind of I don't. 0:55:56.400 --> 0:55:57.319 Know what they was doing. 0:55:57.760 --> 0:55:59.960 So then they're like, well, all right, well y'all ain't 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.319 when you know, y'all don't give us, y'all don't even 0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:02.920 respect us. 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:05.600 And I've been one that that that they felt that 0:56:05.800 --> 0:56:09.080 about like at some point. But but me too, I can't. 0:56:09.160 --> 0:56:13.000 I can't. Like I got a Harriet Tubman mentality, Like 0:56:13.200 --> 0:56:16.239 I always feel like, man, if I get any type 0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:19.640 of wisdom, I'm gonna try to bring it back, any 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:21.640 type of resources, I'm gonna try to bring it back. 0:56:22.520 --> 0:56:24.759 I am gonna bring it back, and I'm gonna try to. 0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.640 Do it without preaching, and like and the thing I 0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:30.719 and the thing I've noticed just speaking to Chicago specifically, 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:32.760 but I feel like it's you thrown across the board 0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.680 like that man, when you really present with him, give 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:39.280 them a listen, hit him out, give them a little wisdom. 0:56:39.520 --> 0:56:40.680 Keep showing by example. 0:56:41.200 --> 0:56:43.880 They start responding to it in certain ways, and if 0:56:44.000 --> 0:56:46.359 and if they don't, man, sometimes they might get it later. 0:56:46.640 --> 0:56:49.360 But I understand why you get frustrated, because it's like, yo, bro, 0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:49.839 I done. 0:56:50.280 --> 0:56:53.480 Man, come on, man, like I don't. Bit's what you 0:56:53.560 --> 0:56:55.280 think I believe. 0:56:55.560 --> 0:57:00.520 Like, especially, I'm a very opinionated guy, so you know, 0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:04.399 I critique. You know, I'm like, you could do better here, 0:57:04.880 --> 0:57:08.279 you could say better rhyme here. You know that's the 0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:10.160 kind of thing I am. So they may take it 0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:14.279 as disrespect, but I'm really saying do better. 0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:17.200 You know what I'm saying, do better because hip hop 0:57:17.360 --> 0:57:18.760 taught me to be better. 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:21.600 Right. Yeah. I also think. 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:25.040 I also think there's a generation of ogs that tried 0:57:25.080 --> 0:57:28.280 to act like hygs, and this young generation was like 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:32.360 looking at like, was like, man, don't, don't don't try 0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:34.320 to act like us, act like you, so we could 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:37.600 know what to expect down the line, what to emulate 0:57:37.680 --> 0:57:38.200 down the line. 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.000 The only way I'm acting like that, Buster said. 0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:45.360 Buster said he accepted his life time speech toward I 0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:47.800 don't even know if you guys remember as me t ward. 0:57:48.160 --> 0:57:50.360 He was like us, oh gz, we gotta we got 0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:53.160 to play our part. Yeah, and he was like, why 0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:55.760 they listening to us because we don't look our part. 0:57:56.240 --> 0:58:01.000 And I was just like, damn, but he's not wrong, right, 0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:05.800 you know what I mean? Some of them look at 0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:08.320 us and then and they don't see us in a car. 0:58:08.440 --> 0:58:11.880 They like, they don't see us in a watch. They're like, 0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:13.880 they're like, oh man, well we got more than you. 0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.440 So it's hard to listen to somebody you think you're 0:58:17.480 --> 0:58:17.919 doing better. 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:19.840 Then yeah, that's true. 0:58:20.000 --> 0:58:22.920 But then I think, you know, sometimes they should be 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:25.840 you know, some of them be empty with the stuff 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:26.440 they feel like. 0:58:26.640 --> 0:58:29.240 God, their soul still be empty. Yeah, and when you 0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:30.360 when you give. 0:58:30.240 --> 0:58:32.520 Them a little something like man, I just straight up 0:58:32.560 --> 0:58:35.800 had talks with youngins from Chicago like Yo, I needed, Yo, 0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:37.120 you need to go to this therapy. 0:58:37.280 --> 0:58:40.680 Man therapy. Like I'm telling you this right now. 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:42.640 You see me and you feel like, oh yeah you 0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:46.120 successful and and yo you got this you acting you 0:58:46.200 --> 0:58:46.840 blah blah blah. 0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:48.440 No, go to therapy. 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.600 Bro. It has helped me and my thing is like that. 0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:56.040 I feel like for me, I'm thinking of Chicago too 0:58:56.440 --> 0:58:59.600 in a way like the ogs. When I became a 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.720 first shorty first started calling me o G I'm like, oh, ship, 0:59:05.440 --> 0:59:05.960 but I mean that. 0:59:06.040 --> 0:59:15.640 That was a whole long time. But hold up, but 0:59:18.000 --> 0:59:19.200 because you ain't make it. 0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.000 But I think, you know, like one of the things 0:59:24.080 --> 0:59:28.000 I felt like we I can speak specifically, especially when 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:31.200 it comes to the gang culture in Chicago, I feel 0:59:31.280 --> 0:59:34.960 like we like the dudes that raised us, they gave 0:59:35.080 --> 0:59:37.840 us certain amounts of like laws, wisdom and stuff that 0:59:38.040 --> 0:59:42.560 just like moral conduct in the streets. You know what 0:59:42.600 --> 0:59:45.080 I'm saying, like this, like this is too far, Like 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:46.800 you ain't like if you go if you do this, 0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:49.480 that's a violation and you're gonna you're gonna pay for it. 0:59:50.200 --> 0:59:54.680 And I don't think like we in my generation when 0:59:54.720 --> 0:59:58.920 it came to the Chicago culture really sat down and 0:59:59.080 --> 0:59:59.880 it took that time. 1:00:00.040 --> 1:00:01.960 You gotta take time with these youngests. You got to 1:00:02.000 --> 1:00:03.680 be consistent. You gotta be consistent. 1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:08.720 I learned. I'm going to tell you something common I've 1:00:08.760 --> 1:00:09.040 been going. 1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:14.080 Obviously, Chicago is like my number seventh market, like seventh 1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:15.120 eighth it was. 1:00:15.280 --> 1:00:16.800 It was in my top ten. So I've been going 1:00:16.840 --> 1:00:18.840 to call and by the way, I'm half black, half 1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:22.320 so I have nothing but tires. 1:00:22.360 --> 1:00:24.640 In Chicago, my family and my family went for Puerto 1:00:24.720 --> 1:00:27.360 Rico Spanish hallm Chicago. 1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:30.080 Right, I'm gonna tell you something. 1:00:30.800 --> 1:00:33.200 In the nineties, even though they might have said that 1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:37.680 Chicago was worse than the nineties, they had OG's. I 1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:41.560 felt safe for going to Chicago in the nineties early 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:44.840 two thousands. Then I do go in there now where 1:00:44.920 --> 1:00:47.360 I feel like and now you can you can forgive me. 1:00:47.480 --> 1:00:48.320 I mean, you could correct me. 1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:52.680 Excuse me. I don't feel like this structure now, but 1:00:53.480 --> 1:00:57.959 you just named it. You just named it. A COMPETI Green. 1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:00.840 I went to Competing, you know, went to Competty Green. 1:01:01.000 --> 1:01:02.800 I I gotta be a good. 1:01:02.720 --> 1:01:07.520 Times d the club across the street. 1:01:09.360 --> 1:01:10.920 I did. I did a record with R. Kelly. I 1:01:10.960 --> 1:01:14.320 know it's frown upon now, but I did that. It 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:21.840 was classic songs like that, what's good it is good? 1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:25.600 So and I say it on the R. Kelly record, 1:01:25.680 --> 1:01:30.640 I said, Sammy's, So, Sammy's was this this? This so 1:01:30.880 --> 1:01:31.680 like soul Foods. 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.560 Fire Ticket restaurant across the street from Competer Green and 1:01:34.600 --> 1:01:35.280 people used to be like. 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:38.840 Yo, why do you keep going there? Like I just 1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:41.320 love But what I'm trying to tell you is I 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:41.760 didn't know. 1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:47.920 I was in a dangerous place because it was so structured, 1:01:48.320 --> 1:01:49.680 like the o gs. 1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:53.080 Had me like like you know what I mean, o G. 1:01:53.240 --> 1:01:55.840 But that's what the os to to me at that 1:01:56.000 --> 1:01:59.840 point was Mathur's like that Authur is so my west. 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:02.440 The other one is. 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:13.080 I think the ogs knew it, like you said, like 1:02:13.560 --> 1:02:15.680 I said earlier, a little bit like they knew like 1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:18.919 you can't go but so far it was and you like, man, 1:02:19.360 --> 1:02:22.520 we ain't gon ain't no children gonna get some children 1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.800 get hid in this and you you're gonna pay for that, 1:02:26.360 --> 1:02:30.040 you know what I'm saying. And when younger people just 1:02:30.080 --> 1:02:33.440 started dying, man, like young people just out at the 1:02:33.560 --> 1:02:37.520 park I'm talking, and babies started getting shot, I just 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:41.200 felt like, man, ashamed of our city. Like I felt like, man, 1:02:41.280 --> 1:02:44.160 we gotta do better, and man, people working to try 1:02:44.240 --> 1:02:46.600 to do things, and and it's it's a it's a 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:47.880 collective by dude. 1:02:47.880 --> 1:02:49.960 We got we got so many positive things about that. 1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:51.840 But I mean I brought that up. 1:02:51.880 --> 1:02:54.200 But the answer your question about the youngest, I think 1:02:54.320 --> 1:02:56.320 you know, man, we just got to keep reaching for 1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:59.120 him man, and said, listen to him too. Bro. My 1:02:59.280 --> 1:03:02.760 daughter taught me that ship my son. Yeah, my daughters 1:03:02.800 --> 1:03:05.120 like my daughter too. Yeah, you ain't got all the answers. 1:03:05.640 --> 1:03:08.280 And I'm like she basically, I mean, she said in 1:03:08.360 --> 1:03:09.920 her own way, and I was like, you know what, 1:03:10.080 --> 1:03:13.360 You're right, I don't answers. And even if I think 1:03:13.400 --> 1:03:16.000 I'm right, I still need to hear you out, you know. 1:03:16.520 --> 1:03:17.680 And that's just to me. 1:03:17.800 --> 1:03:19.880 That's the collector. We got to hit the young is out. 1:03:20.360 --> 1:03:21.800 You know what I read the other day on the 1:03:22.520 --> 1:03:25.720 plane sitting there going through something, and they told me 1:03:25.800 --> 1:03:30.080 that Chicago real estate is the illest real estate, Like 1:03:31.240 --> 1:03:33.840 it's the place to invest in right now, but not 1:03:33.920 --> 1:03:34.960 according to our music. 1:03:36.400 --> 1:03:41.840 I'm like, yo, what the were hearing it? Just think 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:44.440 about what I just said. I'm on, you know, i' 1:03:44.480 --> 1:03:45.280 mean whatever. 1:03:45.480 --> 1:03:49.840 Exact gentrification though, because I got something, it's got something. 1:03:49.880 --> 1:03:52.840 It's beautiful license I was looking because they tore down 1:03:53.280 --> 1:03:55.640 it was a complete green right green. 1:03:55.800 --> 1:03:56.000 Yeah. 1:03:56.560 --> 1:03:59.200 But shots, speaking of real estate, I want to shout 1:03:59.200 --> 1:04:01.600 out my man more repeat the real estate in Chicago. 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:10.360 If you want real estate, what's the vibe on Hyde 1:04:10.440 --> 1:04:13.360 Park though always High Park was always like High Park 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:15.920 was one of the It's crazy because when when you 1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:16.880 were saying Puerto Rican. 1:04:16.760 --> 1:04:25.960 Porto parade from that park, that's not from there, boy boy, 1:04:26.000 --> 1:04:28.280 he was from there, Puerto Rican. 1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:30.320 But but I'm gonna tell you though, y'all, I gotta say, 1:04:31.160 --> 1:04:33.800 being in Chicago, to be honest, like it's a real 1:04:33.880 --> 1:04:39.240 segregated city. I didn't know Puerto Ricans and Dominicans could 1:04:39.280 --> 1:04:42.840 look like we do. Like until I came to New York, 1:04:43.000 --> 1:04:45.600 till I met Juju and last from the beating Us 1:04:48.880 --> 1:04:51.840 that's from the story. 1:04:51.720 --> 1:04:57.000 Of Corona, Corona, Corona. I was beating us Corona. 1:04:58.120 --> 1:04:58.920 That was my first like. 1:05:00.520 --> 1:05:03.280 That's what I got my last and ju Ju fat. 1:05:06.240 --> 1:05:08.560 But I'm saying I didn't know that it could, you know, 1:05:09.240 --> 1:05:11.880 so like until I started getting in New York and 1:05:11.960 --> 1:05:14.120 then that that exposed me to like, oh man, it's 1:05:14.160 --> 1:05:15.920 different cultures and different people. 1:05:16.160 --> 1:05:17.840 You know. It's the funny shit. 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:26.360 I've been touring since nineteen ninety eight, so I forget 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:29.320 what year this was. And I called my Spanish cousins 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:33.680 from Chicago and my Black cousins from Chicago. 1:05:33.960 --> 1:05:35.400 They met me at the House of Blues. 1:05:37.200 --> 1:05:39.240 They found out they lived across the street from each 1:05:39.280 --> 1:05:41.240 other for twenty years and didn't know each other. 1:05:41.440 --> 1:05:45.840 What are you serious? I swear, Wow, that's cousins. It happened. 1:05:46.920 --> 1:05:51.680 Still, it's my black cousin, right, that's black, and my 1:05:51.840 --> 1:05:57.200 Spanish cousin. So their cousins my default right, But they're like, yo, 1:05:57.800 --> 1:05:59.919 cool now they I don't, I don't. 1:06:00.320 --> 1:06:03.960 They might still be shooting at family members. I got 1:06:04.200 --> 1:06:07.120 with each other the day, Holy ship, how is it 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:11.680 over there? It's okay, how is it over there? That's 1:06:11.720 --> 1:06:14.880 why they may be closed, but the world's apart. 1:06:16.200 --> 1:06:19.160 And it was like, that's when I knew how segregated 1:06:19.280 --> 1:06:23.720 Chicago was because in New York, in Jersey, the Bronx 1:06:23.800 --> 1:06:27.360 and Mount Vernon, like blacks and Latinos pretty pretty much 1:06:27.440 --> 1:06:30.320 lived in the same environment. And then when I went 1:06:30.320 --> 1:06:32.360 to l a and then I seen that, like we 1:06:32.480 --> 1:06:34.600 had will i Am on recently, and will I Am 1:06:34.760 --> 1:06:39.960 was like the only like, yeah, he was. 1:06:46.840 --> 1:06:50.720 Career man. You don't you don't see that. But I 1:06:51.080 --> 1:06:54.120 had not known that living in New York City my 1:06:54.200 --> 1:06:54.640 whole life. 1:06:54.680 --> 1:06:58.880 I thought that, you know, everyone is like that, because 1:06:59.160 --> 1:07:02.880 in New York is It's like, if you're really. 1:07:02.720 --> 1:07:06.280 Really from New York, you can't be racist. Man, you 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:11.040 have a Russian neighbor, Yeah, you have a Haitian who 1:07:11.160 --> 1:07:12.040 lives downstairs. 1:07:17.480 --> 1:07:23.280 You have a Haitian who cooks downstairs. Weird is Jamaican belt, 1:07:23.360 --> 1:07:26.280 so it's kind of weird. It's kind of weird. 1:07:26.360 --> 1:07:29.720 Then you got a Jamaican and they got the Colombian. 1:07:30.000 --> 1:07:31.640 You got Colombian, and. 1:07:31.680 --> 1:07:37.240 It's like, maybe not, but that's what I love. That's 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:39.080 what I love about New York. But man, that was 1:07:39.120 --> 1:07:41.200 the thing that I would to this day what I 1:07:41.280 --> 1:07:42.040 love about New York. 1:07:42.080 --> 1:07:42.680 It's the most. 1:07:43.080 --> 1:07:46.240 It's the most I see a different cultures people and 1:07:47.120 --> 1:07:50.040 it ain't like it ain't like it ain't no fakeness 1:07:50.120 --> 1:07:52.400 about the way it blends. Like I'll be seeing like 1:07:52.520 --> 1:07:55.600 black and white dudes, Latino dudes playing handball together, like 1:07:55.680 --> 1:07:56.320 pick up handball. 1:08:04.320 --> 1:08:07.160 Being in New York, it's it's easy to adapt. 1:08:07.560 --> 1:08:09.800 And when once you're in New York, you know what 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:13.160 I'm saying, Like the culture is so crazy, everyone just 1:08:13.760 --> 1:08:15.200 kind of adapts to that ship. 1:08:15.680 --> 1:08:18.320 You know. Well, look, let me just tell you what 1:08:18.439 --> 1:08:19.519 our show is about. Man. 1:08:19.960 --> 1:08:23.439 Our show is about giving people they fly bro while 1:08:23.479 --> 1:08:26.080 they are alive. They where they could smell them, with 1:08:26.240 --> 1:08:28.800 the trees you can hell them where you could think them, 1:08:28.880 --> 1:08:30.120 and drinks where you could drink them. 1:08:31.479 --> 1:08:42.439 And we wanted to give y'all. Y'all people you are. 1:08:42.640 --> 1:08:47.719 You are one of the best producers of all time. 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:49.920 Thank you, sir. You know that. 1:08:50.720 --> 1:08:52.360 Hold on, let me can give you your flowers. I 1:08:52.520 --> 1:08:57.920 love your humbleness. I love how you keep it fucking 1:08:58.080 --> 1:09:01.439 hip hop. Yes, sir, like no matter if you tell 1:09:01.520 --> 1:09:04.560 me right now, say Pete Walkins in Sweden, I'm like, 1:09:04.760 --> 1:09:05.439 keeping a hip hop. 1:09:07.800 --> 1:09:09.559 I don't need to know what you're doing in Sweden. 1:09:09.680 --> 1:09:12.599 You could be doing a roller skating ring and people 1:09:13.000 --> 1:09:13.880 running around with tights. 1:09:13.880 --> 1:09:15.680 I'm like, I bet you Pete is keeping a hip hop. 1:09:18.080 --> 1:09:22.679 I don't know and comment. 1:09:22.880 --> 1:09:25.519 Let me just tell you something. I'm a movie buff, 1:09:25.600 --> 1:09:27.639 so I know my friend who can't speak English that good. 1:09:30.360 --> 1:09:33.280 He's seen every one of your movies and I know 1:09:33.400 --> 1:09:34.840 he might have been freestyle a little bit. 1:09:34.920 --> 1:09:35.840 I've seen everyone of you. 1:09:36.960 --> 1:09:42.240 Thanks and the worlds have you brung us to and 1:09:42.479 --> 1:09:47.240 represented our culture. We all owe you, Yes, we owe 1:09:47.280 --> 1:09:51.439 you big time, because again, when I see coming, I'm 1:09:51.520 --> 1:09:54.320 like keeping a hip hop I don't have to question 1:09:54.439 --> 1:09:57.599 you like there's certain people that I would look like, Man, 1:09:57.720 --> 1:09:58.439 he fucked up. 1:10:03.200 --> 1:10:04.080 He represents the. 1:10:04.080 --> 1:10:07.360 Coaching no more like it's certain it's certain people. But 1:10:08.200 --> 1:10:11.040 and the fact that you two brothers is getting together, 1:10:11.160 --> 1:10:15.519 getting together to drop this album in June. Correct man, 1:10:15.880 --> 1:10:18.839 the fact that we have a record to guess exactly 1:10:19.400 --> 1:10:20.960 exactly nineties. 1:10:21.160 --> 1:10:23.240 But I've done stuff for you too. That's right. 1:10:27.120 --> 1:10:30.200 To give you your flowers, tell y'all how important your 1:10:30.240 --> 1:10:33.080 hours to the coach, how proud we are of y'all, 1:10:33.640 --> 1:10:34.479 and how. 1:10:34.439 --> 1:10:40.040 Much we want y'all to keep going. Man, Because one 1:10:40.120 --> 1:10:42.479 thing that that jay Z album taught me about four 1:10:42.600 --> 1:10:46.840 four four is we don't have to dumb down us. 1:10:47.080 --> 1:10:50.759 We could up it, and we could because our audience 1:10:51.479 --> 1:10:54.640 with us. He's they might work for u bs now, 1:10:54.760 --> 1:10:57.800 but they grew with us like they you know what 1:10:57.800 --> 1:11:01.519 I'm saying, Like, we don't have to like you said 1:11:01.560 --> 1:11:06.640 something earlier, you said you didn't like when artists we're 1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:09.559 trying to sound like the West Coast, and so that's 1:11:09.560 --> 1:11:12.439 what you said on our level. But at one point 1:11:12.920 --> 1:11:16.800 everyone and wanted to be from the South hip hop. 1:11:17.360 --> 1:11:20.360 It's still it's still has still it's still. 1:11:25.840 --> 1:11:26.400 It's New York. 1:11:26.520 --> 1:11:29.280 Fault play in New York for that people do not 1:11:29.360 --> 1:11:33.240 let him get away with you New York. And I'm 1:11:33.280 --> 1:11:36.160 not saying you individual, I'm gonna say cats in New York. 1:11:36.360 --> 1:11:37.040 Certain cats. 1:11:37.120 --> 1:11:42.560 Now everybody lost some identity of where they're from and 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:46.000 what they represent. And so that's why I'm like, yo, 1:11:46.760 --> 1:11:49.479 you know, when let the South be the South because 1:11:49.520 --> 1:11:52.599 I love Outcast, that's my favorite group in the South 1:11:53.200 --> 1:11:57.080 and Luda and all them. Rest in peace to Rico 1:11:58.880 --> 1:12:01.880 and he was the awesome he was awesome producer. You know, 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:04.160 shout out to Jip, you know, that's my guy from 1:12:04.160 --> 1:12:07.479 Goodie Mom. So my thing is like, you know, let 1:12:08.040 --> 1:12:11.640 them be who they are and always represent who you are. 1:12:11.680 --> 1:12:14.760 And if y'all end up doing music together, then y'all 1:12:14.840 --> 1:12:18.680 just make it fun with both, with both Atlanta and 1:12:18.800 --> 1:12:19.160 New York. 1:12:20.080 --> 1:12:25.400 Right, Yeah, listen, So let me ask you, Pete being 1:12:25.439 --> 1:12:29.400 from Mount Vernon, like Mount Vernon is always kind of 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:32.880 known as the sixth Borough, right because it's technically not 1:12:33.040 --> 1:12:34.599 New York City, but it's New York. 1:12:34.720 --> 1:12:37.880 Yes, was that a burden on you or was that 1:12:38.000 --> 1:12:38.880 a plus? I don't know. 1:12:39.360 --> 1:12:41.480 Right next to the Bronx, right next to the Bronxronx 1:12:44.560 --> 1:12:47.719 right then I could walk to the Bronx from Mount Vernon. 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:50.479 So my my thing is, it's just like it's the 1:12:50.600 --> 1:12:51.840 hidden city in New York. 1:12:52.640 --> 1:12:53.880 You feel me? You know what? 1:12:54.360 --> 1:13:03.559 Heavy Day, Ozzie Davis, Ruby, d Wow, Felicia shot and Madrashot. 1:13:04.439 --> 1:13:06.360 Williams, Gus Williams, the Knicks. 1:13:06.479 --> 1:13:07.120 You know what I'm saying. 1:13:08.120 --> 1:13:13.280 Dick Clark went to Mount Vernon High School. Denzel Washington, 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:25.920 Nina Simon too. Okay, yeah, man, bro Yees, you know 1:13:25.920 --> 1:13:26.360 what I'm saying. 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:28.880 Hold On, you mentioned Heavy D. I feel like Heavy 1:13:28.960 --> 1:13:30.800 D hasn't got to just do with all the. 1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:34.360 Celebration of well because of him, why I got started, 1:13:35.200 --> 1:13:37.960 a lot of people, a lot of people picked up the. 1:13:38.080 --> 1:13:42.439 Whole neighborhood put him on his back. That's why I 1:13:42.560 --> 1:13:44.160 missed him so much. I love her so much. 1:13:44.560 --> 1:13:47.080 Your cousin Greg, Yeah, he took, he took, He took 1:13:47.200 --> 1:13:50.479 us all with him. Yeah, he was a forest man 1:13:50.920 --> 1:13:51.200 with him. 1:13:52.120 --> 1:13:54.120 He opened it up for like hip hop is in 1:13:54.240 --> 1:13:58.240 different ways. Yeahs. As Tip said on that don't curse 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:01.120 the bump did ahead is a favor on my mama's 1:14:01.240 --> 1:14:06.040 like the head is the favorite of Mama's used to heavy. 1:14:06.120 --> 1:14:07.880 D was the one that took it to some people, 1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:11.280 like took the music where older people, certain people like 1:14:11.360 --> 1:14:14.000 were like, oh I actually like this this music because 1:14:14.000 --> 1:14:15.880 you know they used to be like rap, like what 1:14:16.120 --> 1:14:16.280 is that? 1:14:16.479 --> 1:14:19.880 But it wasn't forever. I wouldn't have probably been with 1:14:20.040 --> 1:14:22.479 Molly Ma. Wow, you feel what I'm saying? 1:14:22.520 --> 1:14:23.400 How explain that? 1:14:23.760 --> 1:14:27.000 Because he pitched me at the time Marlly needed a 1:14:27.120 --> 1:14:29.240 DJ on the radio in New York City on w 1:14:29.400 --> 1:14:35.280 b l S, and he said, he said, Yo, my cousin, 1:14:35.800 --> 1:14:39.200 My cousin is dope. Listen to him trying, and he 1:14:39.320 --> 1:14:42.040 gave me a shot. And that's how I built my name. 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:46.400 Shout out to Mary, Yeah, shout out tomorrow. 1:14:48.920 --> 1:14:52.200 Let me give you another one. This this one brew 1:14:52.280 --> 1:14:56.439 my mom. We had d m C on here. Oh yeah. 1:14:56.800 --> 1:14:59.679 D MC said, pe Rock saved my cook. 1:15:00.600 --> 1:15:02.400 You know what that You know what that means? 1:15:02.439 --> 1:15:03.080 Did you hear it from? 1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:03.600 You know what? 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:12.800 That made me? That was so dope, undersud what he was. 1:15:12.800 --> 1:15:15.240 Talking about with Donald the King and everything that happened 1:15:15.280 --> 1:15:16.519 with those records, because that was. 1:15:16.560 --> 1:15:18.840 In the beginning of my career and me and Jay 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:20.240 were like this with each other. 1:15:20.760 --> 1:15:24.160 And when I met Russell, it was like, damn, I 1:15:24.240 --> 1:15:27.160 got approved to these dudes, Russell Lee or I got 1:15:27.280 --> 1:15:29.760 I got something to prove and so, like you know, 1:15:30.000 --> 1:15:32.639 I felt like the first run up down with the King, 1:15:33.680 --> 1:15:35.600 Russell's made some comments and I. 1:15:35.680 --> 1:15:37.679 Was like, shit, you know what I'm saying. 1:15:37.960 --> 1:15:40.599 It wasn't good, Like yeah, like you know what I'm saying, 1:15:40.680 --> 1:15:43.800 Like you know, but it's all good because Jay was like, 1:15:43.880 --> 1:15:45.760 don't worry about it, Pete, don't worry about it. We're 1:15:45.760 --> 1:15:48.680 gonna keep working on it. And then we did the 1:15:48.800 --> 1:15:51.479 beat and actually, I don't know if people know this, 1:15:52.120 --> 1:15:58.559 but Jay literated the actual beat pattern he wanted right. 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:01.120 So I was like, I just hit record and said 1:16:01.200 --> 1:16:01.560 you do it. 1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:02.280 MM. 1:16:03.120 --> 1:16:05.360 So what you hear on the record right now is 1:16:05.560 --> 1:16:08.920 Jay's programming of the drums, And all I did was 1:16:09.000 --> 1:16:10.160 add to the wow. 1:16:12.640 --> 1:16:20.000 Bucking up my whole child, yo, yo. 1:16:20.600 --> 1:16:23.160 But I don't think what people understand about that record 1:16:23.240 --> 1:16:25.439 and what you did there, and what DMC was trying 1:16:25.439 --> 1:16:27.120 to tell us is that you brought them up to 1:16:27.240 --> 1:16:31.160 speed to the newer generation. That that wasn't an easy 1:16:31.240 --> 1:16:32.920 task bring run DMC into that. 1:16:33.080 --> 1:16:36.680 World because you know, we were new and when we 1:16:36.800 --> 1:16:38.519 had a hit record, we had reminisce. 1:16:38.640 --> 1:16:40.439 Yeah, this is right here, this is by the way. 1:16:41.439 --> 1:16:42.920 Let me just say, let me just think one of 1:16:42.960 --> 1:16:45.600 the greatest. I saw none of this. 1:16:45.880 --> 1:16:49.400 I always thought that they never had a dry spell. 1:16:49.840 --> 1:16:52.320 And he said that what I'm saying, he fucked up 1:16:52.360 --> 1:16:54.720 my childhood because I was like what and he was like, 1:16:54.800 --> 1:16:57.519 you Pete Rock saved and like he said it again. 1:16:58.080 --> 1:16:59.960 I tried to give him a drink. It didn't work. 1:17:01.960 --> 1:17:04.600 I was like, were you sure like and he was like, 1:17:04.880 --> 1:17:07.559 but but you know, I'm not in the industry at 1:17:07.600 --> 1:17:11.920 this time. So has always been the biggest. And he says, no, 1:17:12.360 --> 1:17:16.439 if it wasn't for beat Rock, Like he reiterated what 1:17:16.600 --> 1:17:17.640 one DMC is. 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:26.960 I was DMC. I've told y'all he's man. That's my guy. JMJ. 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:29.720 We were the closest when he was alive. Me and 1:17:29.880 --> 1:17:30.800 Jay were really close. 1:17:32.040 --> 1:17:32.200 Yo. 1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:36.960 What's crazy is the first my first chance at a 1:17:37.040 --> 1:17:39.920 record deal coming from Chicago. Jam Master J was going 1:17:40.000 --> 1:17:44.200 to sign me, but but wow, he decided, he told me, 1:17:44.240 --> 1:17:46.200 and first, You're right. He was one of the coolest 1:17:46.240 --> 1:17:50.240 brothers just no. And and you know, coming from the crib, 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:52.560 coming from Chicago, we was trying to get hurt. And 1:17:52.720 --> 1:17:55.919 somehow he got our demo because we send the demos 1:17:56.600 --> 1:17:57.840 to you know, used to look at the back of 1:17:57.880 --> 1:17:59.679 the records and send the demos and he had JMJ 1:18:00.720 --> 1:18:03.200 and he met with us and everything. He's like, man, 1:18:03.200 --> 1:18:05.600 I'm thinking about signing you, but he decided not to. 1:18:06.240 --> 1:18:06.360 Uh. 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:08.880 He he ended up going WITHX running the back. 1:18:09.680 --> 1:18:12.000 Yeah. Yeah, and then I can see that. But he 1:18:12.080 --> 1:18:13.840 told me, yeah, it just made sense. And he was like, 1:18:14.160 --> 1:18:16.439 I ain't signing you too, because you was over here 1:18:16.439 --> 1:18:19.800 and your managers over here, your producers over here. But man, 1:18:19.880 --> 1:18:22.519 he kind of like always would would embrace me and 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:25.679 shed light, you know, and I hear stories about about 1:18:25.720 --> 1:18:29.960 what you're saying, like and he programmed that that's that's crazy. 1:18:30.120 --> 1:18:31.840 I never knew that. I was like, you do it. 1:18:32.240 --> 1:18:33.600 He's like he said to be. 1:18:33.760 --> 1:18:36.840 He's like, I'm dat you can get And I just said, 1:18:36.920 --> 1:18:39.080 all right, look, hit the record button. 1:18:39.360 --> 1:18:42.080 I said, just hit the kick Just do that. 1:18:42.520 --> 1:18:42.760 Okay. 1:18:42.840 --> 1:18:45.559 But let me ask you, Chris, because the way DMC 1:18:45.720 --> 1:18:49.000 describes it, Hopefully you saw the episode. 1:18:49.040 --> 1:18:50.879 If not see. 1:18:53.800 --> 1:18:58.240 Everything because he describes it as if like they were 1:18:58.320 --> 1:19:04.680 literally over and you gave them like what that's your 1:19:06.000 --> 1:19:08.599 It was their album Back from Hell that didn't do well, 1:19:09.200 --> 1:19:11.000 that's the reason. 1:19:11.520 --> 1:19:14.519 And so they came to me at that time and 1:19:14.600 --> 1:19:18.360 he said hip hop had changed, yes, drastic, Yes, that's 1:19:18.400 --> 1:19:19.400 when we were brand new. 1:19:20.000 --> 1:19:24.439 So he came to me, and you know, we worked 1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:27.360 out some beats, and Down with the King was the 1:19:27.479 --> 1:19:30.360 one that you know, I started playing samples and records. 1:19:30.400 --> 1:19:31.760 That's the first thing I do when you come to 1:19:31.800 --> 1:19:35.639 see me, I'm playing records. You like that, I want 1:19:35.680 --> 1:19:37.439 me hook that up, and that's how it goes. 1:19:38.240 --> 1:19:41.280 I know that's but did you know what he was 1:19:41.320 --> 1:19:44.760 saying like that, that you was literally bringing their career back. 1:19:45.200 --> 1:19:46.120 You knew that well. 1:19:46.120 --> 1:19:49.360 I didn't know that, but when I heard him say it, 1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:54.200 that ship made me feel good. That should This is 1:19:54.280 --> 1:19:57.080 a this is a group. I'm a fan. I used 1:19:57.120 --> 1:20:00.320 to buy the records run to the record store boys. 1:20:00.439 --> 1:20:02.560 So you're literally saying you just produced this record just 1:20:02.760 --> 1:20:03.439 just to produce it. 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:05.680 No, I produced it because I wanted it would have 1:20:05.680 --> 1:20:10.760 been That was an honor. I got a question though, too, you. 1:20:15.120 --> 1:20:20.600 Like, so, who have you been in the studio with 1:20:21.280 --> 1:20:24.559 where you've been, Like, damn, I'm actually producing for this person. 1:20:25.120 --> 1:20:31.080 Run dm C, running to run d B. Because there's 1:20:31.080 --> 1:20:33.479 the beatles of hip hop at that they were. 1:20:34.720 --> 1:20:37.000 That I would run to the record store to buy 1:20:37.160 --> 1:20:40.559 the vinyl, like buying I'm you know, d A. P. Rock, 1:20:40.600 --> 1:20:43.559 I'm buying the record. You know what I'm saying, I. 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:48.479 Stole this run. He said he didn't work his house. 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:53.280 They say, you fakeers out destroyed my child. 1:20:57.840 --> 1:21:00.720 Everything you went through, all that I used to I 1:21:00.840 --> 1:21:04.599 used to ride my bike, listen in the rank, all that, man, 1:21:04.800 --> 1:21:06.000 that was what about? 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:09.439 Okay, what about when y'all when y'all did world is 1:21:09.680 --> 1:21:12.640 Because you're saying now you mentioned that too. Was it 1:21:12.800 --> 1:21:15.400 like you played him the beat and he and he's 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:16.840 just like, that's it? Or was it? 1:21:17.200 --> 1:21:17.360 You know? 1:21:17.640 --> 1:21:20.040 I had that beat already made. Hold on, all right, 1:21:20.120 --> 1:21:22.720 let me sit back. No, no, no, that's his question. 1:21:23.080 --> 1:21:26.200 Let me get ready for your answer. Oh my god, 1:21:26.560 --> 1:21:30.439 I wanted to notice, so you know, I had that 1:21:30.560 --> 1:21:31.400 beat already made. 1:21:31.439 --> 1:21:34.320 And when he came over, I pulled these discs out 1:21:34.920 --> 1:21:37.760 and started going through the disc and then found that 1:21:37.880 --> 1:21:40.120 one and played it. And then I was about to 1:21:40.200 --> 1:21:44.080 play sticking another disk and play another beat. He was 1:21:44.080 --> 1:21:46.080 like no, no, no, no, no, no no, and he 1:21:46.200 --> 1:21:51.519 just started doing this oh oh okay like that. And 1:21:51.600 --> 1:21:54.600 then he had his composition book of rhymes and he 1:21:54.720 --> 1:21:55.960 started going through the book. 1:21:56.880 --> 1:21:58.360 Was it was it the black and white bok found 1:21:58.360 --> 1:21:59.600 the page and he was. 1:21:59.680 --> 1:22:02.360 Like and then they put the book down and he 1:22:02.439 --> 1:22:03.519 was like, I want you to sing this. 1:22:09.280 --> 1:22:11.800 Hold on, so you're saying when you play the beat. 1:22:11.880 --> 1:22:14.920 He had his book book as an he didn't with 1:22:15.000 --> 1:22:16.479 the black and white, the black. 1:22:19.240 --> 1:22:25.320 Book right now writing in my book run right, He's true, 1:22:25.400 --> 1:22:28.680 that's true. That line is crazy because so so so. 1:22:28.800 --> 1:22:30.160 Then you know he's so. 1:22:30.560 --> 1:22:34.479 He had these rhymes already read and he's had the 1:22:34.600 --> 1:22:37.479 hook and he said, I want you to shoot the singer. 1:22:37.600 --> 1:22:38.680 He's like, I want you to sing. 1:22:38.760 --> 1:22:44.040 I was like, singer, you weren't doing vocals yet? Yeah, 1:22:44.080 --> 1:22:46.639 I wasn't. Like so this is the first time people. 1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:48.400 Said I'm not a singer. What do you want me 1:22:48.479 --> 1:22:48.840 to sing? 1:22:49.680 --> 1:22:49.880 Sing? 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:53.040 But I had this voice when in hip hop where 1:22:53.040 --> 1:22:54.720 I would play around in the ad libs and be 1:22:54.840 --> 1:22:59.479 doing those stuff and trying to help and they liked it. 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:02.679 But how did you first know the ad libs because 1:23:02.680 --> 1:23:06.559 that she was like, that's you're one of the first, 1:23:07.720 --> 1:23:10.879 like and really one of the only what other producers 1:23:11.000 --> 1:23:13.400 y'all might know, but what other producers on their beats 1:23:13.439 --> 1:23:14.360 the ad libs? 1:23:14.920 --> 1:23:16.680 It was, I only think of it, and it's not 1:23:16.760 --> 1:23:18.840 a producer necessarily, it's puff that would do that. 1:23:19.200 --> 1:23:21.599 I don't know where I got that ad lib ship 1:23:21.640 --> 1:23:24.280 from James Brown. He's to talk on his records. 1:23:24.680 --> 1:23:27.120 Yeah, your is your signature, yo. 1:23:27.840 --> 1:23:31.320 Ad libs is like hooks like we were like for real, 1:23:31.439 --> 1:23:33.880 like my god, like I can listen to straighten it out. 1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:39.160 Oh yeah, oh yeah, like I know them them ad libs, 1:23:39.320 --> 1:23:40.200 Like that's that's it is. 1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:45.160 Let's talk about the joint me, you and this man. Yeah, 1:23:45.880 --> 1:23:50.760 old survivors, come on, yo, the joint what you wanted him? 1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:52.800 Hold on hold, we're gonna get back to you. All right. 1:23:54.280 --> 1:24:01.400 I gotta take a leak man because some crazy right there. 1:24:01.520 --> 1:24:05.120 That was like the it was collaboration right there. Yes, 1:24:05.680 --> 1:24:06.799 what fun. 1:24:09.120 --> 1:24:13.360 On the same beat on the Pete rock beat comment, 1:24:13.760 --> 1:24:14.519 that's crazy. 1:24:17.160 --> 1:24:19.120 So you he explaining them the rules like how Paul 1:24:19.200 --> 1:24:23.720 is playing you and this is our well, I don't 1:24:23.720 --> 1:24:25.400 know you guys, gonna drink wine as your shot. You 1:24:25.439 --> 1:24:27.599 can drink my choice. 1:24:27.800 --> 1:24:30.400 You just take a sip. So it's our drinking game. 1:24:31.080 --> 1:24:34.600 We're gonna give you two choices, right, you didn't. We 1:24:34.640 --> 1:24:35.479 didn't play this back then. 1:24:35.520 --> 1:24:39.880 No money. You picked one of the two, and nobody drinks. 1:24:39.880 --> 1:24:42.720 I was smoking. You say both in neither of the 1:24:42.760 --> 1:24:46.280 politically correct. That my car. We all drinking. I'll take 1:24:46.280 --> 1:24:48.840 a shot. And if something, if there's a story that 1:24:48.920 --> 1:24:51.559 goes along with somebody you mentioned, please, there's not anything 1:24:51.720 --> 1:24:52.639 negative about anybody. 1:24:53.160 --> 1:24:56.160 I want to mention people. All Right, we're good. 1:24:58.000 --> 1:25:02.880 Fun. I'm gonna start with you. It's this crazy alarm 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:05.800 man put off your car. 1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:10.640 Bro At twice I thought it was you know, No, 1:25:10.720 --> 1:25:12.880 it's you. I mean we got to wait to that. 1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:31.559 Tupac or d m X whichever, whatever reason. 1:25:31.360 --> 1:25:35.360 For you Tupac for me. Man, Tupai hit like. 1:25:37.200 --> 1:25:39.400 He had an emotional thing that I that I feel 1:25:39.479 --> 1:25:43.960 like we hadn't heard hip hop like, and he was like, 1:25:44.479 --> 1:25:44.840 I don't know. 1:25:44.920 --> 1:25:48.120 I think he he tapped into and you met to correct, 1:25:48.200 --> 1:25:48.840 yeah for sure. 1:25:49.400 --> 1:25:53.360 And he tapped into like black consciousness and gave like 1:25:54.080 --> 1:25:56.160 black men and coon cluting black. 1:25:55.920 --> 1:25:58.559 And Latino people because that was our culture. 1:25:58.600 --> 1:26:02.320 But he spoke to that and where you was from, 1:26:02.760 --> 1:26:05.120 you kind of related to him in some way or 1:26:05.120 --> 1:26:08.400 another now like and he just had a heart to 1:26:08.479 --> 1:26:10.680 him and could do different types of records. And I 1:26:10.760 --> 1:26:15.720 feel like, you know, Tupot Dem Mexican and a lot 1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:19.639 of people to me were influenced by extension. 1:26:20.840 --> 1:26:25.960 Yeah, so I gotta go with pop. It's where I get. 1:26:26.800 --> 1:26:30.519 It's where I get Tupacs of Gemini and DMX is 1:26:30.560 --> 1:26:32.760 from Aunt vernon you. 1:26:32.800 --> 1:26:34.200 Taking a shot taking this? 1:26:39.040 --> 1:26:39.960 Can we skip this one? 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:45.439 You got the next one? You know both. This is 1:26:45.520 --> 1:26:50.760 definitely for you. They wrote this for you. By the way, 1:26:50.800 --> 1:27:00.800 this is the Colombian and Dominican it's gonna be. When 1:27:00.840 --> 1:27:02.280 he asked you, can you predicted. 1:27:04.479 --> 1:27:08.759 You want to text it to me? So the first one, okay, 1:27:08.760 --> 1:27:10.400 the first one of the two names. He's gonna say, 1:27:10.720 --> 1:27:11.680 no idea. 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:20.000 Of Kanye O. Man. 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:25.400 When I walked in here, y'all was playing Resurrection. I 1:27:25.560 --> 1:27:30.200 gotta y'all no ideas is manast he's a bad dude. 1:27:30.280 --> 1:27:30.640 Man like. 1:27:32.479 --> 1:27:35.840 Them records was I was. I was like, damn. Then 1:27:35.920 --> 1:27:38.560 I snapped on them beats. So I'm gonna give it 1:27:38.680 --> 1:27:40.200 up for no idea. 1:27:39.960 --> 1:27:42.479 On it felt like y'all was a group the way 1:27:42.520 --> 1:27:45.800 that y'all came out of coming say like you came out, 1:27:45.840 --> 1:27:46.920 but it felt like it was a group. 1:27:47.000 --> 1:27:49.599 Yeah, I mean what, I know him since fourth grade, 1:27:49.960 --> 1:27:53.680 like fourth grade, so he started making beats when we 1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:56.400 were in high school. I was rhyming already, and then 1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:59.439 he just you know, was able to start making whatever 1:27:59.560 --> 1:28:02.800 records he got nn he eventually started getting around like cats, 1:28:02.840 --> 1:28:05.360 where we're going to the record on conventions and stuff, 1:28:05.640 --> 1:28:08.240 and that's where we're going the Resurrection. 1:28:08.320 --> 1:28:10.640 Georgia, Chicago. That's how I mess room. 1:28:10.720 --> 1:28:15.200 I think us how I was right, You're right, you're right, 1:28:16.760 --> 1:28:19.800 all right, listen for you. No, no, the next one 1:28:19.920 --> 1:28:22.120 is for you. Yeah, I'm gonna keep it, gonna stay 1:28:22.120 --> 1:28:24.439 with you the brat or Eve. 1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:27.400 I'm gonna go with Eve. 1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:27.720 Man. 1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:29.439 I mean, I know y'all think I'm gonna pick my 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:34.080 Chicago's love to her, but man, Eve had a little 1:28:34.120 --> 1:28:37.759 more like just rhyme to her, like she could rhyme 1:28:37.840 --> 1:28:40.680 and uh, I don't know she was she had a 1:28:40.720 --> 1:28:42.560 little more style to her. You know, I don't know 1:28:42.640 --> 1:28:47.000 if it was just because of the East coacht thing 1:28:47.080 --> 1:28:50.080 that she had with her being from Philly. But I 1:28:50.120 --> 1:28:53.840 don't know. I think her records are I gravitated to 1:28:54.080 --> 1:28:56.320 more than more than the brats in all respects to 1:28:56.360 --> 1:28:57.160 my West Side girl. 1:28:57.200 --> 1:28:58.160 But I'm just telling the truth. 1:28:58.280 --> 1:28:58.479 You know. 1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:04.240 That's fair. True. We're going with you now. Okay, they 1:29:04.320 --> 1:29:11.840 wrote this, not mean. Okay, Alchemists or Riza Optimists aco Alchemists. 1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:15.799 Come on, you said both. You can say. 1:29:17.560 --> 1:29:20.240 I love them both, you know, like I love them both. 1:29:20.880 --> 1:29:25.599 I've been loving Alchemists a lot lately. Didn't Alchemist jumping 1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:26.120 his beef too? 1:29:26.240 --> 1:29:35.200 Yes, the ground he produced it for that, he said 1:29:35.240 --> 1:29:36.840 he had given the beat a while ago. You can't 1:29:36.880 --> 1:29:50.400 say that now. I'm making you right. He was that. 1:29:50.800 --> 1:29:52.639 He made me mad, He made man. 1:29:57.200 --> 1:29:59.960 He was trying to get positive and may be mad. 1:30:02.960 --> 1:30:07.000 Come on, man, are we taking the shop of that? No? 1:30:07.760 --> 1:30:12.439 He picked pick picked, Okay, Timbo and Pharrell beat Timbo 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:16.559 and I like Pharrell like you take that one too. 1:30:16.800 --> 1:30:17.200 We want you to. 1:30:17.720 --> 1:30:19.320 I'm gonna go with Pharrell too, man like. 1:30:19.479 --> 1:30:21.280 I like man. 1:30:21.400 --> 1:30:23.759 Pharrell to me like being able to do some different 1:30:23.840 --> 1:30:27.599 type of records that happy and man like. He can 1:30:27.680 --> 1:30:31.519 go from happy to superol you know to he did 1:30:31.720 --> 1:30:34.000 like a song for me called Come Closer, but then 1:30:35.600 --> 1:30:38.360 he could go a lot of places like you know, 1:30:38.520 --> 1:30:42.599 so for Rell, he's just a songmaker. They're both super Dola. 1:30:42.720 --> 1:30:45.000 I know they're from Virginia, but I'm gonna go with Pharrell. 1:30:45.160 --> 1:30:53.679 Yeah, those Virginia Virginia crime. I like this town Loope. 1:30:54.160 --> 1:31:01.800 Oh yeah, that's the rapper. Oh who that's that's a 1:31:01.920 --> 1:31:02.320 tough one. 1:31:02.680 --> 1:31:06.519 Yeah, because I I remember when my daughter, my daughter 1:31:06.600 --> 1:31:12.000 first played me chance. This is funny, but Loop is, Man, 1:31:12.120 --> 1:31:15.760 I have heard Loupe and a lot of Ship. I 1:31:15.960 --> 1:31:19.000 heard him freestyle and I'm a big fan of I 1:31:19.280 --> 1:31:22.679 heard him like, man, I heard him kick some rhymes 1:31:22.720 --> 1:31:24.320 when I'm like, yo, this ship is some of the 1:31:24.400 --> 1:31:28.400 best raps I've heard, like, like just really good raps. 1:31:29.040 --> 1:31:31.439 So I'm gonna go with Loupe. I love both of them. 1:31:31.479 --> 1:31:37.200 Them and soundtrack produced Sloope stuff in the beginning. Yeah, 1:31:37.320 --> 1:31:38.920 so I was feeling some of those sloop a. 1:31:39.160 --> 1:31:43.040 Yeah. The only thing I ever critique Loop on period 1:31:43.320 --> 1:31:48.920 Push Kick no is they did a huh the what. 1:31:50.760 --> 1:31:55.040 Yeah when it was a tribical quest Yeah yeah, yeah, 1:31:55.200 --> 1:31:59.240 and like he didn't know those little. Yes right, I'm sorry, 1:31:59.320 --> 1:32:01.400 Lupe because he's like, you know, if you keep bringing 1:32:01.439 --> 1:32:04.760 this ship and I'm sorry, I just I promise you 1:32:04.840 --> 1:32:05.400 I love you. 1:32:06.040 --> 1:32:08.800 It's just that one moment like me being a trial 1:32:08.880 --> 1:32:15.879 called crest for nothing out like shot shot like you can't. 1:32:18.960 --> 1:32:22.560 Your word, like like I remember, like and I know 1:32:22.720 --> 1:32:26.760 all of us met big for wife. Fife was so competitive. 1:32:28.600 --> 1:32:31.640 See me one day because I said, know this, you 1:32:31.760 --> 1:32:36.120 know that, no Jack, no bust that, nor he busts that. 1:32:36.560 --> 1:32:39.320 But I got that from fight know this, don't know 1:32:39.479 --> 1:32:43.840 that And I'm digging Fife up. Fife sees me and 1:32:43.920 --> 1:32:53.680 goes my Jack one of your lists, like giving about that? 1:32:55.320 --> 1:32:58.000 No ways about that. I know that that lyric was 1:32:58.080 --> 1:32:59.960 so famous. That line is so famous. 1:33:01.160 --> 1:33:04.599 Yeeah yeah when you did it over, okay, when. 1:33:05.880 --> 1:33:09.560 The fight thing over, nobody was like nobody should. 1:33:09.280 --> 1:33:15.960 Be fighters competitive. He would with the Knick stuff right now. 1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:23.120 About Jets Nicks. You know we're all New York teams. 1:33:25.960 --> 1:33:28.840 That's why I had I did this. I did this 1:33:28.960 --> 1:33:33.160 what well yeah man, yo, I mean yeah. I remember 1:33:33.320 --> 1:33:36.120 like coming to the New Music Seminar, which was this 1:33:36.280 --> 1:33:38.360 thing that used to have in New York, like being 1:33:38.520 --> 1:33:41.640 unsigned and seeing try call quest and I was like, 1:33:42.280 --> 1:33:44.439 this is after they first out. They an't even did 1:33:44.520 --> 1:33:45.479 low end theory yet. 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:45.800 Wow. 1:33:45.920 --> 1:33:49.160 And I was just like they fight, said what's up? 1:33:49.240 --> 1:33:49.599 I wasn't. 1:33:49.680 --> 1:33:51.720 I wasn't known or nothing, but fighting all them just 1:33:51.960 --> 1:33:54.000 said so they weren't trying to we was crabbing the 1:33:54.120 --> 1:33:57.120 seas to them. Probably they weren't like trying to get 1:33:57.479 --> 1:33:59.720 look like you was down with native tongue. That's my 1:34:00.520 --> 1:34:03.000 I definitely got like a point where like, yeah, at 1:34:03.000 --> 1:34:06.080 that point, this is ninety ninety. So in fact, I 1:34:06.120 --> 1:34:08.320 remember being there, I saw a law for this is 1:34:08.439 --> 1:34:11.840 like I saw a law for nes krres and poor 1:34:11.920 --> 1:34:15.400 rights teachers like they was. They was hosting the thing 1:34:15.439 --> 1:34:17.839 and then leaders of New School was about to perform 1:34:18.439 --> 1:34:21.000 and something went out and Buster came up and started 1:34:21.040 --> 1:34:21.840 beatboxing for. 1:34:22.240 --> 1:34:24.800 For for Why is intelligence for poor Richards? 1:34:24.960 --> 1:34:25.200 Wow? 1:34:25.560 --> 1:34:26.800 And it was crazy bro. 1:34:27.400 --> 1:34:32.960 And then Krress and Buster was beat boxing for wise 1:34:33.000 --> 1:34:33.600 intelligence for. 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:39.360 Poor We're gonna make some noise for that, yo. 1:34:39.520 --> 1:34:42.680 That's that's ship. So that was like my first time 1:34:42.760 --> 1:34:45.320 getting to come to New York. I had like about 1:34:45.360 --> 1:34:48.760 fifteen dudes from Chicago staying. We stayed in one hotel room, 1:34:49.160 --> 1:34:51.599 and we were just happy to be be in New 1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:53.519 York and that that was a new music seminar. That's 1:34:53.560 --> 1:34:56.360 when I saw Fife and man, you know, Tribe is 1:34:56.439 --> 1:34:58.519 one of my favorite groups ever. 1:34:58.640 --> 1:35:03.800 It's like it's like Pete Rock cl like driving and. 1:35:04.240 --> 1:35:07.240 Well, I'm on Tribe second album. I did the jazz joint. 1:35:08.800 --> 1:35:10.240 We got the jazz we got. 1:35:10.880 --> 1:35:14.960 That's why you say Pete Rock on the beat, but 1:35:15.120 --> 1:35:19.080 a short shot that's like classic class. I got to 1:35:19.160 --> 1:35:22.760 keep it with you because he better pick it this 1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:35.920 way ematic or straight out of content allmatic ematic. Illmatic 1:35:36.080 --> 1:35:38.559 changed the way I rap, changed the way so many 1:35:38.600 --> 1:35:39.160 people rap. 1:35:39.240 --> 1:35:40.120 It had changed. 1:35:40.520 --> 1:35:43.400 They had changed hip hop it had it has the 1:35:43.560 --> 1:35:49.320 greatest producers, like of hip hop in that like. 1:35:52.120 --> 1:35:55.479 On that album, that writing is to me, it's. 1:35:55.520 --> 1:35:58.479 Like I know people, I mean to me, it's at 1:35:58.520 --> 1:36:01.080 the level like when you like hundreds of years from now, 1:36:01.120 --> 1:36:05.360 when people study writing and black literature and all that stuff, 1:36:05.479 --> 1:36:08.679 like like how Kendrick wont to poland surprise, that's Polish surprise, 1:36:09.000 --> 1:36:13.120 you know what give large, professor, And we did and 1:36:13.240 --> 1:36:15.759 we actually did, yes for pulling us together. 1:36:16.160 --> 1:36:18.000 Wait, so you're saying that was Large Professors. 1:36:18.160 --> 1:36:23.800 Large Professor is the one who contacted everyone. He contacted 1:36:23.920 --> 1:36:27.599 me primo. Wait, so he's a executive producer. 1:36:27.720 --> 1:36:29.599 He's the one that brought us all together. 1:36:29.960 --> 1:36:31.280 What was he think? 1:36:31.479 --> 1:36:36.439 Was it his idea? He did not? Do you think? 1:36:36.560 --> 1:36:38.240 No said yo, I want to work. 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:41.160 Yeah he did, he did, But I mean Large was 1:36:41.200 --> 1:36:43.560 already hanging with each other. I used to go to 1:36:43.640 --> 1:36:50.200 Glorious on going to Green Green. 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:53.920 Line Records store of course street from Coliseum in Queens. 1:36:54.520 --> 1:36:56.439 I was always I love when he said I just 1:36:56.520 --> 1:36:59.080 hanging out. I'd be up in Mount Vernon peacing with 1:36:59.720 --> 1:37:07.680 small rock making beats, that shopping. But you know what, 1:37:10.920 --> 1:37:13.960 I had never heard what you just said. It Maatic 1:37:14.040 --> 1:37:19.320 it's my favorite album. Sometimes like when I and now 1:37:19.400 --> 1:37:20.639 this happens to be my friend. 1:37:21.040 --> 1:37:25.040 So sometimes I get like stalkery. I keep bringing up. 1:37:25.040 --> 1:37:29.600 He'll be looking at me like, man, you remember what 1:37:29.680 --> 1:37:36.800 you said? You know, you know, but I had never 1:37:36.960 --> 1:37:38.040 heard what you just said. 1:37:39.120 --> 1:37:44.120 So and just because I'm a little stalkery, just because 1:37:44.160 --> 1:37:48.200 of that, you're telling me the first time you ever 1:37:48.280 --> 1:37:50.960 got a call about anybody name, And I said, what's 1:37:51.080 --> 1:37:51.759 through Large? 1:37:53.240 --> 1:37:56.120 So you didn't even hear of who knows was wow. 1:37:57.880 --> 1:37:59.680 Just before Alive at the Barbecue. 1:38:03.120 --> 1:38:06.720 Barbecue, because then that's when they came up with this, 1:38:06.960 --> 1:38:09.360 you know, like, yo, we we're going to get this producer, 1:38:09.439 --> 1:38:10.640 this producer, this produced But. 1:38:10.720 --> 1:38:12.200 The fact that he even has him in Life at 1:38:12.240 --> 1:38:14.800 the Barber he shows you how much Large Professor was 1:38:14.840 --> 1:38:15.680 involved in all of that. 1:38:15.840 --> 1:38:18.719 Yeah, but what's crazy on Live at the Barbecue. People 1:38:18.960 --> 1:38:22.519 gravitated more than Anelly than they did. I mean, at 1:38:22.600 --> 1:38:24.640 least like a months. My crew we was like, oh, 1:38:25.080 --> 1:38:29.720 he's doing that. But then you heard that, which it was. 1:38:29.840 --> 1:38:32.639 When I was twelve, I went to help with I'm 1:38:32.920 --> 1:38:41.040 the bar no ready to go back to the game 1:38:41.120 --> 1:38:42.200 again and then you go back. 1:38:42.360 --> 1:38:47.000 I had more of of personality like like but that 1:38:47.400 --> 1:38:49.559 line fucked the industry. 1:38:49.800 --> 1:38:51.639 When I was twelve, I went to help us nothing 1:38:51.760 --> 1:38:53.680 Jesus because we didn't know if it was hard off. 1:38:56.240 --> 1:38:59.160 I guess I was up for the church. I was 1:38:59.280 --> 1:39:05.439 like up in the chuck, like, wasn't right. I can't 1:39:05.479 --> 1:39:07.479 say this, but I was like, you know, he didn't 1:39:07.560 --> 1:39:10.960 say that. That's when rap changed when he said that. 1:39:12.280 --> 1:39:14.640 When he said that, But what you say, nos is 1:39:15.840 --> 1:39:17.920 I mean he is nots It's his own thing. But 1:39:18.920 --> 1:39:20.680 I would like to ask him this question too. But 1:39:20.880 --> 1:39:25.719 just as as we are saying we are fans, would 1:39:25.720 --> 1:39:29.400 it be Cool g Or or Rock Kim that had 1:39:29.439 --> 1:39:33.040 the most When y'all hear like allmatic. 1:39:32.600 --> 1:39:36.920 Would you say is Cool most influence? No, it's not 1:39:37.080 --> 1:39:38.720 one of the other you know, you know it can't 1:39:38.760 --> 1:39:40.479 be one of the others because once to be one. 1:39:40.760 --> 1:39:43.280 I don't like, no, no, no, no, no no. 1:39:45.200 --> 1:39:49.040 The fact how Rock Kim put his words together with 1:39:49.240 --> 1:39:51.679 intelligence but was still hood. 1:39:52.120 --> 1:39:52.719 That's one. 1:39:54.960 --> 1:39:55.920 Storytelling and all. 1:39:56.280 --> 1:39:59.479 But when it comes to g Rap, where you where 1:39:59.600 --> 1:40:03.160 g Rap said something L Street Blues, you knew what 1:40:03.240 --> 1:40:05.599 he was talking about, and that's how Naves got together. 1:40:05.680 --> 1:40:09.000 So like, I can't say it was one of that, 1:40:09.160 --> 1:40:10.679 I can't say I would take. 1:40:13.520 --> 1:40:19.920 You're making me before we leave. I'm not only texting 1:40:20.000 --> 1:40:23.240 him the question, I'm sitting him in this footage for 1:40:23.360 --> 1:40:23.920 him to respond. 1:40:24.120 --> 1:40:27.760 What makes it official is when Nas and g rapped 1:40:27.760 --> 1:40:28.280 through the joint. 1:40:28.680 --> 1:40:31.400 Oh yeah, that's that's That's how you know that he 1:40:31.560 --> 1:40:34.080 was influenced by That's why I. 1:40:34.080 --> 1:40:36.360 Think Rap had a little bit more influence. You want 1:40:36.360 --> 1:40:42.360 to take the reason why I feel like I take 1:40:42.400 --> 1:40:45.200 my shot too. I feel like you what you're saying too, 1:40:45.320 --> 1:40:48.559 because like what I'm saying when NAS changed the way 1:40:48.640 --> 1:40:52.479 niggas is rhyming. But that's one doing them three syllable 1:40:52.560 --> 1:40:54.640 things like rappers, I'm monkey flipping and what the. 1:40:56.439 --> 1:40:59.880 Musician and flipping the composition I can't. I like scoff 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:05.280 A slipping cocaine sixteen and with the pandamic straine, bully 1:41:05.320 --> 1:41:08.360 holes lpp in your pot holes up the street goes 1:41:08.560 --> 1:41:11.880 heavy and not of feet folds, y'all know my you 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:14.120 know went through without the airplace. I keep some of 1:41:14.160 --> 1:41:16.400 me and Ja saying been up in the stairway. 1:41:16.479 --> 1:41:18.320 But that was that's that's some cool g had. 1:41:18.400 --> 1:41:22.439 It was like facility that that's all cool. GI like 1:41:23.120 --> 1:41:24.360 scheme is Coolie Rapp. 1:41:24.400 --> 1:41:26.360 Tell you truth if you was to tell me, if 1:41:26.360 --> 1:41:28.960 you was, if I was to have to bet to 1:41:29.040 --> 1:41:33.479 say the two mcs that influence it matters the most, 1:41:33.520 --> 1:41:35.559 I would say g Rapp and rock Camp. 1:41:35.600 --> 1:41:38.639 You know what I mean, what's the two season influenced 1:41:38.680 --> 1:41:39.200 you the most? 1:41:40.200 --> 1:41:49.520 Ah ge wrapping biz marky. 1:41:54.439 --> 1:41:56.800 BNZ had fun Like when I did the Warrior War, 1:41:57.400 --> 1:42:00.640 I'm not you asked me so, I said, But when 1:42:00.680 --> 1:42:04.160 I did the warport, I was angry, angry man. 1:42:09.040 --> 1:42:11.400 I listened to that. I'm like, I don't like this guy. 1:42:11.960 --> 1:42:14.960 This guy is not my friend. I wouldn't. I wouldn't 1:42:15.000 --> 1:42:16.160 introduce myself to me. 1:42:16.920 --> 1:42:19.320 Like like if this nigga of the forty six year 1:42:19.320 --> 1:42:22.200 old version of me, if I've seen the twenty one 1:42:22.320 --> 1:42:24.680 year version of the work for I would walk the 1:42:24.720 --> 1:42:25.080 other way. 1:42:25.200 --> 1:42:27.840 No, but you get flowers for war Yeah, of course, yeah, 1:42:28.840 --> 1:42:29.240 you get that. 1:42:30.040 --> 1:42:34.280 But it was and you said, you said two, but 1:42:34.320 --> 1:42:38.080 I'm gonna give you three, okay, And no one ever 1:42:38.560 --> 1:42:41.680 sees this in my style because I want to be 1:42:41.720 --> 1:42:44.479 the exact opposite of my hero. It was an MC 1:42:44.720 --> 1:42:45.840 called Granddaddy, Are you. 1:42:47.880 --> 1:42:48.200 Daddy? 1:42:48.520 --> 1:42:48.560 You? 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:51.960 You were smooth And I've said this before, but I'm 1:42:52.000 --> 1:42:56.600 gonna say it again. He changed my whole life. He 1:42:56.840 --> 1:43:00.400 made it one rhyme. He said, I knew what girl 1:43:00.600 --> 1:43:04.160 named Kenya from West Virginia. Boy, would I like to 1:43:04.240 --> 1:43:12.760 stick something in what he said? He said that ship 1:43:12.960 --> 1:43:17.160 right there? I said, I want to be him. Grand there. 1:43:18.280 --> 1:43:21.400 I heard his name and listen to me. 1:43:21.680 --> 1:43:24.479 That's my only thing. It's two things I regret in 1:43:24.560 --> 1:43:27.559 hip hop right now? Look and I'm throwing it right 1:43:27.600 --> 1:43:30.599 back to y'all. I'm trying to make it. They say, 1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:35.519 it's the same exact thing. My mother asked me one day. 1:43:36.760 --> 1:43:38.760 She said, I want to meet I want I want to, 1:43:38.800 --> 1:43:40.439 I want to. She called me, she said, I want 1:43:40.479 --> 1:43:41.680 you to. I want to do something. I want you 1:43:41.760 --> 1:43:44.439 to meet somebody. And I was like, ma, I think 1:43:44.479 --> 1:43:47.560 she's going to ask me to meet Michael Jackson. I 1:43:47.600 --> 1:43:52.040 ain't that big man, like yo, you you look too much. 1:43:53.960 --> 1:43:56.760 And you know what she says, I want to meet 1:43:56.840 --> 1:44:01.640 big Punt And I go, is my brother, Like, I 1:44:01.720 --> 1:44:06.360 don't rush this at all. I'm like, my you you 1:44:06.479 --> 1:44:08.840 picked low hanging fruit. You know what I'm saying, Like, 1:44:08.960 --> 1:44:13.559 I got that meets you. Pun Pun dies two weeks later. 1:44:15.240 --> 1:44:18.000 And the only other thing that I regret in hip 1:44:18.000 --> 1:44:21.840 hop right now is I didn't give Big Granddaddy you 1:44:21.960 --> 1:44:26.360 his flowers. I gave him his flowers period, like he 1:44:26.600 --> 1:44:30.400 knows he's my favorite MC, like I feel when when 1:44:30.439 --> 1:44:33.040 he introduced himself, we say I'm glad that you he'd 1:44:33.080 --> 1:44:35.640 be like people like that. You nigga know what you 1:44:35.760 --> 1:44:38.400 be talking about because I always I always did that. 1:44:38.520 --> 1:44:43.080 But those are my two things that co, let's get back. 1:44:43.920 --> 1:44:46.040 We need to hear two influences for you. 1:44:46.439 --> 1:44:49.439 Okay, I ain't gonna stop it too. I'm gonna get three, 1:44:49.600 --> 1:44:53.840 give me three. First, I would start with Rock Kim. 1:44:54.840 --> 1:44:57.439 Rock Kim was like the He was the dude that 1:44:57.560 --> 1:44:59.759 made me be like, man, I want to be a rapper. 1:45:00.240 --> 1:45:02.280 I had already been rhyming and run them seeing all 1:45:02.320 --> 1:45:05.120 the l but rock him when I heard I had 1:45:05.200 --> 1:45:08.800 never heard nobody rap in they in their voice like in. 1:45:08.840 --> 1:45:10.680 That way that he was doing. Did you realize he 1:45:10.720 --> 1:45:15.639 didn't her which is DZ. Realize that I didn't hardcore? 1:45:15.800 --> 1:45:18.800 So hard core and what he was opening my mind up? 1:45:18.840 --> 1:45:19.320 And I didn't. 1:45:19.439 --> 1:45:21.280 I didn't even know some of the stuff he was saying, 1:45:21.320 --> 1:45:24.360 but it just resonated with myself. Rock him, kall Rest 1:45:24.439 --> 1:45:30.640 one one because this dude, like I was like, I 1:45:30.720 --> 1:45:34.120 hadn't even heard what vegetarian was to the point on 1:45:34.240 --> 1:45:38.240 for real, y'all vegan, but I ain't know what vegetarian 1:45:38.439 --> 1:45:41.439 was to Krest and them start talking about blah blah 1:45:41.439 --> 1:45:43.719 blah because like, you know, we're in Chicago, we eating 1:45:44.640 --> 1:45:48.360 but and man, then I got to say Big Daddy 1:45:48.439 --> 1:45:51.519 came because it was something about Caine. I loved the 1:45:51.640 --> 1:45:54.360 similes that he would kick, you know, like you know 1:45:54.439 --> 1:45:56.400 if you all would to eat and feed me dope 1:45:56.400 --> 1:45:58.640 and you know, like something he would say that. I 1:45:58.840 --> 1:46:03.120 was like these punchlines. Craig loved his great crazy. But 1:46:03.280 --> 1:46:06.560 the fourth who actually, like we talked about already, I 1:46:06.600 --> 1:46:11.559 gotta give Nas his because Nas was like and after 1:46:11.760 --> 1:46:14.680 those people that like with the foundation. Nas was the 1:46:14.720 --> 1:46:18.880 one that made me like my age. But I was like, oh, 1:46:18.960 --> 1:46:20.800 this is the level. You got a rhyme, man, you 1:46:20.920 --> 1:46:22.040 gotta be at this level. 1:46:22.080 --> 1:46:23.679 He raised the bar. Yeah, he raised the boss. 1:46:23.760 --> 1:46:25.840 So I got them them. I had to get four. 1:46:26.280 --> 1:46:27.960 Yeah, I'm a chief like you. I gotta throw knives 1:46:28.000 --> 1:46:28.320 in there to. 1:46:29.880 --> 1:46:35.599 Pro I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say James Brown, I'm 1:46:35.600 --> 1:46:36.800 gonna say Big Daddy came. 1:46:36.880 --> 1:46:45.719 I'm gonna say Molly Ma and Heavy d did Molly 1:46:46.000 --> 1:46:47.120 events sampling? 1:46:48.200 --> 1:46:52.080 Yeah, he sampled records like people. 1:46:52.720 --> 1:46:56.840 I mean, I guess and before Molly came out, people 1:46:56.920 --> 1:46:59.880 were sampling, but like it was done differently. But he 1:47:00.120 --> 1:47:03.000 brought a new procedure. 1:47:02.720 --> 1:47:04.360 The way that it was explained to us by some 1:47:04.479 --> 1:47:06.960 I forgot who told him that he he sampled in 1:47:07.000 --> 1:47:08.839 the in the way that it sounded like the original 1:47:08.920 --> 1:47:10.920 way that djits were looping brakes. 1:47:11.280 --> 1:47:14.320 He brought that now to the modern ages and. 1:47:14.880 --> 1:47:17.479 And did it with precision. Man, That's one of the 1:47:17.600 --> 1:47:20.320 things that I admired about his beast. Anytime, you know, 1:47:20.840 --> 1:47:23.240 I would be right there with my paws button with 1:47:23.400 --> 1:47:27.360 the radio, listening to mister Magic and listening and waiting 1:47:27.439 --> 1:47:29.960 for Molly saying, Yo, I got something No I did 1:47:30.000 --> 1:47:33.400 with Big Daddy, Can Dennis ain't no halfstan? 1:47:34.680 --> 1:47:39.479 God damn is the bridge? Is that a sound or 1:47:39.600 --> 1:47:40.280 is that a record? 1:47:40.320 --> 1:47:41.240 You think? I like that? 1:47:42.840 --> 1:47:49.559 That's that's this record called Scratching. It's an old school 1:47:49.600 --> 1:47:53.200 break beat. And he took the part and said wow 1:47:53.640 --> 1:47:54.639 and made it go backwards. 1:48:00.240 --> 1:48:00.559 Molly. 1:48:01.760 --> 1:48:06.400 I'm a fan just because of that little incident right there. 1:48:08.520 --> 1:48:09.240 I love hip. 1:48:12.880 --> 1:48:15.639 Bridges the ultimate Queen's record, and for him to put 1:48:15.720 --> 1:48:17.960 that sound in it. Whenever I hear that sound, I 1:48:18.040 --> 1:48:20.120 think about queens period. 1:48:20.320 --> 1:48:21.040 You know what's crazy. 1:48:21.120 --> 1:48:23.960 We just had Charlie Chase on here, and I asked, 1:48:24.200 --> 1:48:28.479 Charlie Chase. I was like, because if she says on 1:48:28.520 --> 1:48:31.280 the record, hip hop started out and fought. 1:48:31.320 --> 1:48:34.599 And I'm like, can it be a chance that sh 1:48:35.000 --> 1:48:38.800 just you know, she saw it. This was the park 1:48:38.880 --> 1:48:53.040 it started out basically I'm trying to I'm trying to 1:48:53.120 --> 1:48:53.639 say ship. 1:48:56.520 --> 1:49:00.280 Yeah, Like I always felt like between the brig just 1:49:00.400 --> 1:49:04.080 over and the bridge, I thought they were both gigantic 1:49:04.320 --> 1:49:08.040 records with all this of kars one, you know, doing that, 1:49:08.560 --> 1:49:14.800 and but but that bridge joint stabbed. Y'all, y'all should 1:49:14.840 --> 1:49:15.680 thank Mary for that. 1:49:16.320 --> 1:49:21.559 Think and you don't forget neither. We don't forget this thing. Okay, 1:49:21.600 --> 1:49:24.880 hold on, we're gonna get back to quickly. You gotta 1:49:24.920 --> 1:49:28.040 play them wise up. Oh yeah, we're gonna play them, 1:49:28.080 --> 1:49:32.000 of course. Yeah, I'm gonna ask you, and I'm going 1:49:32.080 --> 1:49:34.120 to ask you. This is both for y'all questions, because 1:49:34.240 --> 1:49:39.639 y'all represent the light skintting delegation in the Brown. Let's 1:49:39.680 --> 1:49:43.520 see what's going on here, Kenjick Lamar. 1:49:43.479 --> 1:49:47.040 Or Drake Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna is he talking 1:49:47.040 --> 1:49:50.400 about the battle or just over whatever you want? 1:49:50.800 --> 1:49:53.680 I mean, Kendrick Lamar is more to to to what 1:49:54.600 --> 1:49:58.120 I love is just in the MC. So I'm gonna 1:49:58.479 --> 1:49:59.040 I'm gonna go with. 1:49:59.120 --> 1:50:03.080 Kenchick by doing a say and this ain't politically correct 1:50:03.160 --> 1:50:06.000 For me to be honest, I feel like at times 1:50:06.040 --> 1:50:08.920 when Drake rhyman, like I heard this eight Am and Charlotte, 1:50:08.920 --> 1:50:11.160 and I was like, still rhyme when he get over 1:50:11.280 --> 1:50:13.479 like he was he was over a certain beasts, And 1:50:14.000 --> 1:50:16.400 I'm like, when he choose to rhyme, he could rhyme. 1:50:16.800 --> 1:50:20.599 But Kendrick Lamar is an MC that I will put 1:50:21.680 --> 1:50:23.040 Like I said, it's one of the top of the 1:50:23.160 --> 1:50:24.240 seasons any era. 1:50:24.880 --> 1:50:28.400 Like if I put him in in eighties, he would 1:50:28.439 --> 1:50:29.200 be one of the greatest. 1:50:29.240 --> 1:50:30.800 If I put him in nineties, he'd be one of 1:50:30.800 --> 1:50:32.479 the greatest, if I put him in this to me, 1:50:32.680 --> 1:50:39.240 he possesses that type of aura and lyrical like your 1:50:39.320 --> 1:50:42.400 skill this point blank like style. I like when people 1:50:42.439 --> 1:50:44.760 can go to different styles too. That ain't that ain't 1:50:44.800 --> 1:50:47.439 always easy? Like to me, that's when you are you 1:50:47.600 --> 1:50:50.439 being practice. You got lyrics, but then you also a 1:50:50.600 --> 1:50:54.320 musician too, because like certain people and I gotta I 1:50:54.400 --> 1:50:57.000 got a theory that I don't know how true it is, 1:50:57.120 --> 1:51:00.280 but I believe that a lot of producers rhyme better 1:51:00.360 --> 1:51:06.040 the beats than some mcs. They just rhythmically when I 1:51:06.160 --> 1:51:09.160 hit pee, when I hit pee on certain stuff. I'm like, 1:51:09.680 --> 1:51:10.160 I say his. 1:51:10.320 --> 1:51:12.840 Rap more than I do. I heard him a new project. 1:51:14.320 --> 1:51:17.320 He's crazy with. But then like I'm saying, like large 1:51:17.360 --> 1:51:23.040 pro tip Q tip for hey, Like I've been on 1:51:23.160 --> 1:51:26.720 songs with producers and I'm like, I like you, yeah, 1:51:26.880 --> 1:51:30.840 is incredible man. And the thing is like I can 1:51:30.920 --> 1:51:34.840 be giving all my MC ship, but it's somebody like Yay, 1:51:34.920 --> 1:51:36.840 I'm on the song with him and the crowd gonna 1:51:36.840 --> 1:51:39.680 say all his lyrics because they just producers know how 1:51:39.720 --> 1:51:40.400 to Yeah, they. 1:51:42.520 --> 1:51:44.439 They just and not over wrap ship. 1:51:44.760 --> 1:51:48.080 Sometimes that comes from making practice, you know, you know, 1:51:48.240 --> 1:51:51.080 making beats all the time and working with artists that. 1:51:51.720 --> 1:51:54.400 But you got to answer this question, like what what 1:51:55.520 --> 1:51:57.840 you get away from? Okay? 1:51:57.880 --> 1:51:59.720 But you know when I'm making beats, I'm trying to 1:51:59.800 --> 1:52:00.519 rap like them. 1:52:00.640 --> 1:52:03.519 You know what I'm saying. I'm like to myself and I'm. 1:52:03.400 --> 1:52:07.360 Like, but Drake O kidmar you know, i'mna roll with 1:52:07.400 --> 1:52:10.680 the Gemini even though I love Drake. I'm gonna roll 1:52:10.760 --> 1:52:14.280 with Kendrick Team Kendrick all day and I'm on the 1:52:14.360 --> 1:52:15.520 pimple butterfly. 1:52:15.760 --> 1:52:18.519 Let me, let me, let me ask you, and this 1:52:18.640 --> 1:52:27.000 is off topic. Got one beat to make mm, God 1:52:27.120 --> 1:52:36.720 comes to you and say you're gonna live forever. Got 1:52:36.920 --> 1:52:42.640 one beat left to make? Wow, Yeah, this is the 1:52:43.360 --> 1:52:44.840 I ain't gonna. I'm gonna take a shot for you 1:52:45.840 --> 1:52:48.240 because I feel the wrong accident. 1:52:52.360 --> 1:52:57.479 One beat. Got a hip hop man, definitely, he's. 1:52:57.320 --> 1:52:59.240 A definitely hip hop but you got one and they're 1:52:59.280 --> 1:53:02.280 like he like pe you You're gonna live forever, but 1:53:02.400 --> 1:53:03.800 you got one beat to make. 1:53:05.200 --> 1:53:08.560 But it's on you to give it to who do 1:53:08.640 --> 1:53:10.320 you give you the last peat? 1:53:12.040 --> 1:53:13.080 That this is? 1:53:13.200 --> 1:53:13.400 This is. 1:53:16.280 --> 1:53:22.280 Let me take a shot, one last let me let 1:53:22.320 --> 1:53:23.720 me make it easier for you. Let me make it 1:53:23.800 --> 1:53:26.439 easier for you, dead or alive. 1:53:27.640 --> 1:53:28.439 You can. 1:53:28.600 --> 1:53:32.160 You could bring James Bound back. I'm gonna bring Biggie back. 1:53:32.439 --> 1:53:34.160 I knew you was gonna say that. I becave it. 1:53:34.280 --> 1:53:36.439 I made it too easy for you. I've made it 1:53:36.560 --> 1:53:36.920 too easy. 1:53:37.000 --> 1:53:38.040 I'm gonna bring you will be back. 1:53:38.080 --> 1:53:41.280 You know your last beat, if you could ever make it, 1:53:41.360 --> 1:53:43.280 would be for Biggie. Damn. I'm taking a shot because 1:53:43.280 --> 1:53:45.920 I was going to say, got a question from okay, 1:53:47.560 --> 1:53:47.800 if you. 1:53:48.280 --> 1:53:56.280 You the third host the drink, I'm gonna I'm gonna 1:53:56.280 --> 1:53:59.679 have to remove him in this because Okay, you probably 1:54:00.960 --> 1:54:02.519 if it's a beat that you would be. 1:54:03.600 --> 1:54:04.479 I'm bouncing off with you. 1:54:04.800 --> 1:54:08.000 Let's go the beat that you They said, this beat 1:54:08.120 --> 1:54:11.680 defined Pete rock and the beat that you will want 1:54:11.720 --> 1:54:12.479 to be remembered. 1:54:12.760 --> 1:54:14.679 My fine, it tells your. 1:54:15.120 --> 1:54:15.680 Who you are. 1:54:16.800 --> 1:54:19.920 Remove reminis, I gotta remove remember because I knew you was. 1:54:20.160 --> 1:54:24.640 The world is your damn. That's easy to you know. 1:54:24.760 --> 1:54:31.040 We gotta get it up. I got it on you. You. 1:54:32.360 --> 1:54:39.720 God comes to you and says, coming, we know you 1:54:39.840 --> 1:54:40.920 a lyric who genius. 1:54:41.120 --> 1:54:49.240 You want to fight with everybody, But the first left 1:54:50.640 --> 1:54:54.480 one worse. Not that people remember you by, but it 1:54:54.640 --> 1:55:01.160 just literally one worse. What artists would that be? 1:55:01.280 --> 1:55:03.680 What if I could do a verse? 1:55:04.360 --> 1:55:06.240 Have to pick one feature? And by the way, again 1:55:08.360 --> 1:55:11.440 helped him out that all lots too easy. It's too easy. Okay, 1:55:13.120 --> 1:55:13.800 I got a trick for. 1:55:13.840 --> 1:55:19.600 Your I got respectful pot. But I'm gonna go with 1:55:19.760 --> 1:55:28.040 nas Man is probably my favorite. See, I ain't even go, 1:55:28.240 --> 1:55:29.680 I ain't gotta New York. 1:55:30.320 --> 1:55:32.600 That's fire, you know. That's why I like that. 1:55:32.800 --> 1:55:35.080 If we removed, that's I'm gonna say. 1:55:35.440 --> 1:55:37.720 I'm gonna say, y'all need to do a joint album together. 1:55:37.800 --> 1:55:47.040 You and I people let me produce that we want 1:55:47.080 --> 1:55:51.000 to publishing. It's a little like we don't want to 1:55:52.160 --> 1:55:55.800 that other way in New York. If I'm not yeah, 1:55:56.640 --> 1:56:00.160 that would be a mean yo yo. 1:56:00.920 --> 1:56:03.800 Getting them beats from Pete, I'm like, yo, he said something, 1:56:04.360 --> 1:56:07.080 we're gonna play all this joint wise Yes, we play 1:56:07.200 --> 1:56:11.440 these beasts like they sound frash like. I'm like, yo, Pete, 1:56:11.440 --> 1:56:14.480 it's Thomas. But he it was one beat that we did. 1:56:14.720 --> 1:56:16.640 It's one of the first joints were released and called 1:56:16.720 --> 1:56:19.040 Wise Up and we're speaking of the bridge anyway. 1:56:20.000 --> 1:56:22.280 He was like, man, this is a New York beat. 1:56:22.320 --> 1:56:23.440 It's just a New York beat. 1:56:23.640 --> 1:56:26.840 And I couldn't help but think about, like y'all damn 1:56:26.960 --> 1:56:30.200 a Chicago MC over New York leak. It kind of 1:56:30.280 --> 1:56:32.680 took me to like what Q deal with with with 1:56:32.800 --> 1:56:35.760 the Bomb Squad. But but it don't sound like I 1:56:36.560 --> 1:56:36.960 can get that. 1:56:37.520 --> 1:56:38.200 You know what I'm saying. 1:56:38.320 --> 1:56:41.240 I'm gonna get my perspective of Chicago, but it's over 1:56:41.360 --> 1:56:44.920 these New York, New York sound and soulful just beats 1:56:45.000 --> 1:56:45.360 hip hop. 1:56:45.520 --> 1:56:47.640 Listen to the joints I heard off the project than 1:56:48.040 --> 1:56:51.120 the rival everything that you guys did hear the classic materials? 1:56:51.200 --> 1:56:51.360 Wow? 1:56:51.760 --> 1:56:52.200 Like it's not. 1:56:52.840 --> 1:56:59.200 I'm not just bullshitting you. It is phenomenal. You don't 1:56:59.200 --> 1:57:04.160 listen to the new Figgas he is man, you got 1:57:04.840 --> 1:57:08.040 you guys do everything with the project we we. 1:57:10.640 --> 1:57:14.080 I'm like, yo, this project like is what I've been 1:57:14.120 --> 1:57:15.800 wanting to be on Drink Champs. 1:57:15.920 --> 1:57:18.080 But like I'm happy to come on. 1:57:18.200 --> 1:57:20.480 Drink Champs with a project like this. This is fine. 1:57:20.920 --> 1:57:24.080 Like this I was supposed to. Did they hear you know? 1:57:24.240 --> 1:57:25.880 You got you gotta hear I got you in the round. 1:57:27.240 --> 1:57:30.120 I want to be in the video video that come 1:57:30.160 --> 1:57:33.560 on around on your film. In the video I might 1:57:33.600 --> 1:57:48.280 pay for. It's a Kareem shooting. That's my man, him, 1:57:48.720 --> 1:57:50.080 Kareem and Draine. 1:57:50.520 --> 1:57:57.920 He's a dress respect give it up. No, you don't 1:57:57.960 --> 1:58:03.000 know where you're clapping, were going, but the work So 1:58:03.280 --> 1:58:06.240 this is all is all all all? What is it called? 1:58:06.400 --> 1:58:09.840 This is United Nations staff. Yes, but the haters of 1:58:09.920 --> 1:58:14.760 the NIXT say, yeah, you't know wy you was claiming 1:58:14.800 --> 1:58:17.800 you don't know what you said. But that's my family. 1:58:17.840 --> 1:58:21.040 That's what I said. And it's oh yeah we we we. 1:58:21.720 --> 1:58:27.840 Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yes, I got love for y'all 1:58:27.880 --> 1:58:30.240 Knicks fans. Yes, you're not only going but so fun. 1:58:40.680 --> 1:58:58.320 You know. Next, take this by the way, let me 1:58:58.440 --> 1:59:02.040 tell you what makes coming found. Literally the next seat 1:59:02.080 --> 1:59:08.000 across the seat. Man, literally, this is in the house. 1:59:08.240 --> 1:59:18.920 My got me coming, And he says, I like the truth, 1:59:20.520 --> 1:59:22.160 but I like to prove people wrong. 1:59:25.000 --> 1:59:30.600 For y'allah, I got got, we got it's for you too. 1:59:32.000 --> 1:59:35.040 I'm gut trying to get some. 1:59:37.920 --> 1:59:43.720 Smoking Aces or John Wick three oh, for both of us. 1:59:44.280 --> 1:59:45.840 This nigga movie. 1:59:45.880 --> 1:59:53.680 Okay, man, I'm a chance. Smoking Aces was hard? 1:59:54.400 --> 1:59:55.840 Man, that was hard. 1:59:55.920 --> 1:59:57.360 What the reason why I got to give it up 1:59:57.400 --> 1:59:59.960 for Smoking Aces? Because that was my first movie. 2:00:00.520 --> 2:00:03.120 So that was your first movie? You shot already gold? 2:00:03.120 --> 2:00:07.800 Because that's already gold? Yeah, you know yo? 2:00:08.120 --> 2:00:10.160 And and that was like that was the first time 2:00:10.240 --> 2:00:12.480 I you know, I mean, I've been auditioning for a lot, 2:00:12.640 --> 2:00:15.080 a lot I've been doing first movie. 2:00:15.160 --> 2:00:17.320 Man, thank you, bro. 2:00:17.920 --> 2:00:21.080 That was your first American gangster was though. But the 2:00:21.200 --> 2:00:23.240 only reaction you did was run when. 2:00:23.160 --> 2:00:27.160 The igot that part. 2:00:30.360 --> 2:00:32.680 Was like, yeah, man, I got I gotta go with 2:00:32.720 --> 2:00:36.320 smoking today. Let me tell you that was my first movie. 2:00:36.400 --> 2:00:37.960 It was the first time I got a call back 2:00:38.040 --> 2:00:42.960 Right before I got that audition, I went on another audition. 2:00:43.080 --> 2:00:46.000 They told me they told my agent man he green Man, 2:00:46.040 --> 2:00:48.720 and he he ain't ready. I was, I'm about to 2:00:48.760 --> 2:00:51.600 show them boys what it is. I got that call back. 2:00:52.080 --> 2:00:54.640 I remember flying for I was I was doing some music. 2:00:54.720 --> 2:00:57.640 I was performing in China. Came back, did the audition, 2:00:57.840 --> 2:01:00.240 got the role. I was about to be on tour 2:01:00.280 --> 2:01:04.920 with Kanye and Keisha Cole and I got the call like, man, Yo, 2:01:05.040 --> 2:01:07.680 We're giving you the movie. And I'm like wow, And 2:01:08.080 --> 2:01:10.640 then I had to go. I was geeked up, like 2:01:10.720 --> 2:01:13.680 I'm literally calling my mama, like, man, I'm in the movie. 2:01:14.800 --> 2:01:17.240 And I had to go five minutes later and I 2:01:17.280 --> 2:01:19.080 ain't gonna lie. I was tearing up because I was like, 2:01:19.200 --> 2:01:21.560 this was a I've been working on acting for all time, 2:01:21.600 --> 2:01:24.040 since my first time. I had to go to the 2:01:24.200 --> 2:01:27.240 next room. Kanye was standing in the hotel room next 2:01:27.480 --> 2:01:29.600 tell him I can't go on tour with him, and 2:01:30.280 --> 2:01:32.280 he was like, and I had already, we had already 2:01:32.320 --> 2:01:35.480 booked the tour. And he was like, and this one 2:01:35.520 --> 2:01:37.000 I knew he was my brother. He was like, Yo, 2:01:37.080 --> 2:01:38.920 if that's your dream, man, you gotta do it. 2:01:39.400 --> 2:01:40.040 You gotta do it. 2:01:40.160 --> 2:01:42.800 That's your dream. And I and I went did that 2:01:42.920 --> 2:01:46.720 some smoking naces man. That ship had Toagie had Alicia, 2:01:47.560 --> 2:01:54.080 they had Ryan rayleyda good Fellas Man. It had Justin 2:01:54.160 --> 2:01:58.600 Bateman from Ark. They had Chris prying to play fucking 2:01:59.480 --> 2:02:03.880 star track beg Yo, just before casts even became who 2:02:03.920 --> 2:02:04.160 they were. 2:02:04.240 --> 2:02:05.600 Just why I thought this had to be like your 2:02:05.640 --> 2:02:08.320 seventh movie, like you killed it, killed it so much 2:02:08.960 --> 2:02:10.360 when you just said that, just now, you fucking me 2:02:10.440 --> 2:02:11.920 up because I'm trying to think and. 2:02:12.560 --> 2:02:14.200 The first that was your first but limit that the 2:02:14.280 --> 2:02:16.760 only the only underlining that gym. I'm gonna say too. 2:02:16.840 --> 2:02:20.320 That was like the producer, I mean the director right, 2:02:20.400 --> 2:02:23.160 a director. He was playing Jay Diller on the set 2:02:23.400 --> 2:02:26.760 Wow at the time. Jay Diller was my roommate, and 2:02:26.920 --> 2:02:29.240 we was like he was going through a lot, like 2:02:30.400 --> 2:02:35.520 like healthwise, and man, he didn't know I knew Jay Diller. 2:02:35.600 --> 2:02:38.360 He know Jay Deler was my roommate. He just was 2:02:38.440 --> 2:02:41.640 playing deal on the set, playing and I was like, yo, 2:02:41.720 --> 2:02:43.720 I'm you know how certain things happened you like I'm 2:02:43.720 --> 2:02:46.400 in the right place. That's how I felt about smoking as. 2:02:46.520 --> 2:02:49.880 That's why would be that even though more niggas come 2:02:49.920 --> 2:02:53.600 to me about John Wick then then smoking asking as. 2:02:58.640 --> 2:03:01.560 It was dope to my favorite piece right here. Oh yeah, 2:03:02.360 --> 2:03:06.120 Guru or Big L, I'll go to you first. 2:03:07.440 --> 2:03:08.880 These are some funked up questions. 2:03:11.000 --> 2:03:16.560 I agree, I meant guy, rest in peace to both, 2:03:17.520 --> 2:03:20.480 but I ain't go front Guru. Maybe for me Guru 2:03:20.840 --> 2:03:24.640 just because I don't know he would get on these 2:03:24.720 --> 2:03:28.520 different topics ex. Girl the next girl, like street ministry. 2:03:29.200 --> 2:03:31.400 These are the words that are manifested. It was like 2:03:31.480 --> 2:03:34.240 a lot of different like thoughts in his stuff. And 2:03:34.280 --> 2:03:38.560 his voice was phenomenal, and you know, point blank we 2:03:39.000 --> 2:03:42.160 we we MC's benefit off the fact that we on 2:03:42.360 --> 2:03:45.080 dope beats like you know that just make you like 2:03:46.160 --> 2:03:48.320 we always know them about the voice like so he 2:03:48.480 --> 2:03:50.840 had the song on the voices, the voice mostly the voice. 2:03:50.880 --> 2:03:54.120 That's yeah, the voice and yoh. So I'm gonna go 2:03:54.160 --> 2:03:56.320 with Guru, but rest in peace to both of them. 2:03:56.720 --> 2:03:59.760 Big was the cold incredible. 2:03:59.600 --> 2:04:05.800 Super I'm gonna say both on that one because. 2:04:05.680 --> 2:04:07.720 You know, you know I worked with I'm gonna take 2:04:07.760 --> 2:04:16.120 it take a one both. 2:04:12.680 --> 2:04:13.200 Of the Big L. 2:04:13.360 --> 2:04:16.400 Yes, I worked with both, and you know Big L 2:04:16.640 --> 2:04:19.400 was like I went, I remember going to pick up. 2:04:19.480 --> 2:04:22.720 I had just bought a Honda Court brand new. This 2:04:22.920 --> 2:04:25.800 is early in my career, like I just was starting 2:04:25.880 --> 2:04:28.840 to get my bones, and so I went and picked 2:04:28.880 --> 2:04:29.720 him up in Harlem. 2:04:30.680 --> 2:04:34.280 I had two cassettes of beats right from our journey. 2:04:34.960 --> 2:04:38.240 When I put the tape in, he started to rhyme 2:04:39.440 --> 2:04:42.680 and never stopped until we came to the last stop. 2:04:42.960 --> 2:04:46.600 Wherever we were, we went, he went off. We drove 2:04:46.680 --> 2:04:49.160 to Brooklyn, we drove to Harlem, we drove to Mount Arning. 2:04:50.360 --> 2:04:53.040 He just wrapped the whole time. I lied to y'all nine, 2:04:54.440 --> 2:04:57.800 he's big. Yes, I'm playing beats. I got beats from 2:04:57.800 --> 2:05:00.520 Pete Rock. I got beat because that's. 2:05:00.760 --> 2:05:03.360 Full of I want to know what colored car was? 2:05:04.040 --> 2:05:06.600 Black black. I can see this. I can see it 2:05:06.880 --> 2:05:12.360 in there to car right there was hell and hip 2:05:12.400 --> 2:05:15.120 hop rims on the. 2:05:17.160 --> 2:05:17.360 Man. 2:05:18.680 --> 2:05:20.880 That's why that's why he did the drive with me, 2:05:20.960 --> 2:05:22.440 because I had the system. Was crazy. 2:05:22.520 --> 2:05:30.200 Man, you got social media back then, yea, that footage 2:05:30.280 --> 2:05:30.840 that's crazy. 2:05:32.680 --> 2:05:35.720 Release joints like the rhymes that probably never came out, 2:05:35.880 --> 2:05:36.680 just like a m J. 2:05:36.880 --> 2:05:39.800 When we were practicing DJing in my basement, like it's 2:05:39.960 --> 2:05:44.600 on tape and I lost it lost, I lost the 2:05:44.720 --> 2:05:46.280 videotape or somebody stole it. 2:05:46.400 --> 2:05:49.320 You know what I'm saying. Somebody stole up. He got that, 2:05:49.720 --> 2:05:51.160 somebody got you want this one too. 2:05:51.560 --> 2:05:53.240 I feel like I feel like we kind of well, 2:05:53.320 --> 2:05:55.920 no this, we'll do it together. Okay. I don't know 2:05:56.000 --> 2:05:57.080 how together this worked? 2:06:00.240 --> 2:06:08.000 Him or Caress one. Yeah, y'all went to the hardest one. 2:06:08.360 --> 2:06:11.520 That's that's that's what you see. I'm sitting I'm trying to. 2:06:14.640 --> 2:06:21.440 Man, Damn, It's like, come on, man, y'all, y'all see, 2:06:21.480 --> 2:06:21.760 I ain't. 2:06:21.800 --> 2:06:23.480 I ain't said both on neither. I ain't. 2:06:24.320 --> 2:06:27.920 I mean, I'm like you picking, you're trying to pick, trying. 2:06:27.760 --> 2:06:32.440 To picking already in your soul, bro like him and 2:06:32.600 --> 2:06:33.320 and and them. 2:06:33.240 --> 2:06:34.120 Two dudes is in you? 2:06:34.440 --> 2:06:36.320 And man? 2:06:36.560 --> 2:06:41.440 Fuck man, I'm gonna say, I'm going with Charres one, 2:06:41.520 --> 2:06:46.600 man going Cares one, and I'm just and and I'm 2:06:46.640 --> 2:06:52.200 going with Karres because it's like I grew up going 2:06:52.240 --> 2:06:53.920 to going to a church. 2:06:54.200 --> 2:06:54.360 Right. 2:06:55.000 --> 2:06:59.520 It was unapologetically black, understandingly Christians, black churches of the church. 2:06:59.800 --> 2:07:01.720 It was called Trinity United Church of Christ. 2:07:05.400 --> 2:07:06.240 That was like the model. 2:07:06.280 --> 2:07:07.920 That's what we saw when we walked into it. 2:07:09.960 --> 2:07:13.120 Trinity unapologetically black. 2:07:18.360 --> 2:07:21.200 Don't follow the instagram. He let me down the old 2:07:21.240 --> 2:07:27.480 techne I look at the Instagram. I'm on church Sunday. 2:07:27.520 --> 2:07:31.080 I'm like nigga. You was you was the Dominican, Dominican, 2:07:31.560 --> 2:07:34.880 the whitest of the whitest church. But I only I 2:07:34.920 --> 2:07:36.200 only brought it up. I only brought it. 2:07:38.680 --> 2:07:42.920 But I only brought that up because care rest like, 2:07:43.400 --> 2:07:45.800 and why is that I learned? I learned books of 2:07:45.880 --> 2:07:49.879 the Bible from him, like or just the descendancy of Abraham. 2:07:49.960 --> 2:07:53.880 Abraham was the father of Isaac. Isaac was the father 2:07:54.080 --> 2:07:57.600 of Jacob. Jacob at twelve sons and for real, these 2:07:57.680 --> 2:07:59.760 were the children of Israel. 2:08:00.200 --> 2:08:02.000 Like all of it wasn't even rhyming. 2:08:02.040 --> 2:08:05.080 But I was singing that ship learning it and this 2:08:05.480 --> 2:08:10.520 was dope like, and you know, y'all got me right there, 2:08:10.560 --> 2:08:12.840 because them two are really let me say, rock him 2:08:13.000 --> 2:08:16.320 is the reason I'm rhyming too, like, but it's the 2:08:16.360 --> 2:08:17.960 only sick. 2:08:19.560 --> 2:08:21.240 Shot would take you. I'm gonna take a shot. 2:08:21.280 --> 2:08:25.200 I'm gonna I'm be you said both say that, both 2:08:25.240 --> 2:08:28.280 of them put a stronghold on New York City all 2:08:28.360 --> 2:08:31.480 together because taking shots, you have two different styles right 2:08:32.240 --> 2:08:33.120 shot shot. 2:08:33.160 --> 2:08:34.040 I'm taking shots on that. 2:08:34.160 --> 2:08:37.520 Let me let me yeah, two different yes, yes, rock 2:08:37.680 --> 2:08:42.080 Him with the painting full drug dealer ship, you know, 2:08:42.480 --> 2:08:46.680 fucking you know, just the New York dark streets and 2:08:47.720 --> 2:08:49.440 those rhymes was just so sick. 2:08:49.560 --> 2:08:50.280 And then you know. 2:08:52.000 --> 2:08:55.160 With KRS, it's just like rah rah, Like I went 2:08:55.240 --> 2:09:00.800 to a show at Union Square where Brooklyn went nut. 2:09:01.480 --> 2:09:02.000 He's like you. 2:09:06.080 --> 2:09:08.200 And the Bronx go at it in Union. 2:09:10.160 --> 2:09:14.160 Stay in unr Square. Yes, niggas throwing chess and bottles, 2:09:14.680 --> 2:09:16.520 you know what I'm saying. Like it was real like 2:09:16.960 --> 2:09:22.080 So that's that's that's New York style. That's New York style. 2:09:22.360 --> 2:09:24.080 So I can't pick between Caro. 2:09:25.160 --> 2:09:27.120 I'm gonna I'm gonna throw one for y'all. At least 2:09:27.240 --> 2:09:29.000 he ain't the same type of m cs. But these 2:09:29.040 --> 2:09:31.960 two ms less put it out there, Okay, grand Pool, 2:09:31.960 --> 2:09:33.000 Bay or Big Daddy? 2:09:33.040 --> 2:09:38.360 Can't you're asking me all of us? My eyebrows sucked 2:09:38.440 --> 2:09:42.440 up Pool. I wrote my first songs ever, Pool what what? 2:09:43.000 --> 2:09:45.400 Wait wait a minute, But that doesn't mean Rock Him 2:09:45.480 --> 2:09:48.560 gets a slight. No Big Daddy can know. 2:09:48.640 --> 2:09:49.879 But he said poop, I wrote. 2:09:49.720 --> 2:09:55.080 Something that's wild. I've been one one with the creator. 2:09:55.200 --> 2:09:56.960 He wrote, is this what what is this? 2:09:57.240 --> 2:10:03.480 Brand Nubian Poo Pooba, Tommy Hill figure po Malvern. I'm 2:10:03.480 --> 2:10:05.600 saying that when he's down with Brand Neubian, or after 2:10:05.920 --> 2:10:07.760 he was he was with as. 2:10:07.600 --> 2:10:10.880 A matter of fact, Jamal and Scott was in the 2:10:10.960 --> 2:10:16.960 basement when he made his claim for me to wrap. 2:10:17.040 --> 2:10:19.240 He's like, yo, I want you to wrap. I want 2:10:19.280 --> 2:10:21.120 you to say this to this beat that you just 2:10:21.280 --> 2:10:29.880 made the creator, Yes, what about the one shut him down? 2:10:29.960 --> 2:10:33.240 Anybody know I wrote all that everything after Pool reverse 2:10:33.280 --> 2:10:34.720 on st I love that. 2:10:35.280 --> 2:10:38.200 I love that. I'm a huge public enemy. 2:10:38.360 --> 2:10:39.520 That means a lot to me. 2:10:39.840 --> 2:10:47.440 I wrote that. I wrote it myself. Banana, I'm about 2:10:47.520 --> 2:10:51.480 to go so okay, I did we got it on 2:10:51.640 --> 2:10:58.200 you all right? Mm hmm. This is like a producer 2:10:58.320 --> 2:11:01.840 question too. Okay, the Chronic or doggy style? 2:11:02.720 --> 2:11:06.200 Oh, easily the Chronic because the Chronic inspired the doggy style. 2:11:06.480 --> 2:11:08.440 I love how you. I love how you answered that 2:11:08.680 --> 2:11:11.320 so professional. Yeah, chronic started. You definitely don't have the 2:11:11.360 --> 2:11:15.440 dog you style without that was That's easy. That was easy. 2:11:16.200 --> 2:11:17.320 It be a hard one, bro. 2:11:20.360 --> 2:11:23.680 You ever worked with Drake Yeah? Okay, yeah, he wrapped 2:11:23.720 --> 2:11:26.000 over my beat. Him. You know what I'm saying. 2:11:26.040 --> 2:11:28.760 Oh wow, you go to YouTube just you know, type 2:11:28.840 --> 2:11:33.480 in Pete Rock, corrupt, doctor Dre Wow, you'll see joint 2:11:33.480 --> 2:11:33.920 A come up. 2:11:34.160 --> 2:11:34.720 Goddamn. 2:11:34.800 --> 2:11:38.280 Yes, I got one for you, Marley Ma or Primo 2:11:38.800 --> 2:11:42.360 and specifically on their style of making beats. 2:11:42.560 --> 2:11:46.040 Wow, no other you you got to go just on that. 2:11:46.400 --> 2:11:47.240 I have to give it up. 2:11:47.520 --> 2:11:49.800 Well, I'll say Mary for inspiration, but I have to 2:11:51.040 --> 2:11:54.920 really give my vote to DJ Premier. It's really funky 2:11:55.040 --> 2:11:58.320 with it, like he's just funky, like you could tell. 2:11:58.360 --> 2:12:01.720 We both are James Brown fans. But that's where we 2:12:01.880 --> 2:12:03.560 get it from. You, you know what I'm saying. And 2:12:03.680 --> 2:12:08.000 so when he his cadence, when he makes beats, he'll 2:12:08.040 --> 2:12:12.360 take the littlest sound, the littlest sound living Proof to 2:12:12.480 --> 2:12:14.200 be give you an example. 2:12:14.400 --> 2:12:20.320 Living Proof is just look what it did in New York's, 2:12:20.680 --> 2:12:24.640 which is what you liked about Marley with Marley. 2:12:24.720 --> 2:12:28.240 The same thing with the Bridge right, little they taking 2:12:28.320 --> 2:12:34.720 little samples, not even the bar, making it, make make it, 2:12:34.800 --> 2:12:40.040 make it, make it crazy, make it anthem anthem stuff 2:12:40.080 --> 2:12:41.080 you'll never forget. 2:12:41.200 --> 2:12:46.760 Brom So I'm I'm I'm an lean on Primo right. 2:12:48.600 --> 2:12:54.960 And I'll be honest with every producer. Almost every let me, 2:12:55.200 --> 2:12:58.240 I say every producer. Yeah, but the most. 2:12:58.160 --> 2:13:03.640 Frustrated I've ever been in studio is in a good way. 2:13:03.720 --> 2:13:06.520 In a good way, Premo will make a beat. I 2:13:06.520 --> 2:13:09.400 will write a whole rhyme to it, and they'll be like, 2:13:09.920 --> 2:13:12.320 I don't like it, and just he raced to me. 2:13:12.600 --> 2:13:19.520 I'm like, your motherfucker, I just troll that He'll do 2:13:19.680 --> 2:13:23.560 that like I ain't gonna lie, Like like I was 2:13:23.600 --> 2:13:26.040 a twenty eight year old man, I had anxiety then, 2:13:26.200 --> 2:13:28.680 like like I got anxiety now, like you know what 2:13:28.720 --> 2:13:31.160 I'm saying. But I remember like like being in D 2:13:31.240 --> 2:13:32.680 n D so you like a lot. 2:13:33.000 --> 2:13:37.360 I loved it, but it wasn't about He's the only 2:13:37.400 --> 2:13:40.240 producer I've ever worked with that. It wasn't about me 2:13:40.480 --> 2:13:42.760 liking the beat. It was about us liking it together. 2:13:43.400 --> 2:13:46.360 And if it wasn't that chemistry together, he just he 2:13:46.560 --> 2:13:48.640 just knocked it out, like that ship that we did 2:13:49.360 --> 2:13:59.120 on CNN Joint that was the twelfth record. He kept 2:13:59.160 --> 2:14:05.280 going like this, No, you're like what. 2:14:09.080 --> 2:14:13.160 I got? I got about twenty rhyms. But but that 2:14:13.560 --> 2:14:15.280 let me know he was a rip and he would 2:14:15.400 --> 2:14:17.880 not send us a beat this, but you know back 2:14:17.920 --> 2:14:20.600 then that wasn't that. But he was like you coming, 2:14:20.800 --> 2:14:22.520 and we went to D n D and I say 2:14:22.560 --> 2:14:24.240 it in the joint and up in D and D 2:14:24.360 --> 2:14:26.680 sleeping with the rats of the roaches because there was 2:14:26.800 --> 2:14:33.360 literally rats and ros a whole bunch of Dutch masters. 2:14:34.280 --> 2:14:37.920 That was the first studio. The first studio. They had 2:14:38.280 --> 2:14:45.320 a candy machine yep, that duches Dutch like you know, 2:14:45.560 --> 2:14:50.920 you know, like thank you, thank you for speaking. 2:14:51.000 --> 2:14:56.839 Norrie vented machines and they had fucking Philip Phillip blunts 2:14:57.280 --> 2:15:02.040 and duchess in the studio. Like if you can't make 2:15:02.080 --> 2:15:04.400 your record in D n D studios, you were you 2:15:04.480 --> 2:15:08.320 were tracked because that's just had a vibe you slipping 2:15:08.400 --> 2:15:11.360 Western over here was hit by. 2:15:11.520 --> 2:15:14.240 I missed I missed that, I missed a D n 2:15:14.360 --> 2:15:22.400 D studio. I missed the boy. Yeah. I think Jay 2:15:23.360 --> 2:15:25.440 did like like the. 2:15:28.280 --> 2:15:30.600 Something for his album and they we created D and 2:15:30.680 --> 2:15:32.680 D studios in the museum. 2:15:33.360 --> 2:15:35.360 Yeah, And I was like, ya, don't got the roaches though. 2:15:37.200 --> 2:15:37.840 That was the. 2:15:37.880 --> 2:15:40.400 Feelings you wanted to You wanted to hurry up and 2:15:40.760 --> 2:15:41.560 and finish. 2:15:41.760 --> 2:15:45.560 Like green like it was rats, roaches, It was stick 2:15:45.640 --> 2:15:47.680 up cares from King King. 2:15:47.800 --> 2:15:53.000 Oh my god, your big rats and home a good rat. 2:15:53.080 --> 2:15:56.800 I'm doing heavy d ship, big old fat rat right 2:15:56.880 --> 2:15:58.120 across the fucking floor. 2:15:58.280 --> 2:15:58.400 Bro. 2:15:59.600 --> 2:16:06.200 I was like, that ship was big chunk, and you're 2:16:06.200 --> 2:16:09.440 talking about the chunk King seventy that was in China, 2:16:09.520 --> 2:16:12.880 the one in Chinatown. Guys. I remember that that ship, right, 2:16:13.040 --> 2:16:16.520 I remember that. We got a lot done in that. 2:16:17.560 --> 2:16:26.080 All right, biggie, you ain't taking the war. You know 2:16:26.200 --> 2:16:26.560 we got this. 2:16:26.720 --> 2:16:29.640 We got this, we got this. We know, we see, 2:16:29.880 --> 2:16:32.920 we see what you're trying to do. We know y'all 2:16:33.120 --> 2:16:39.640 your niggas with your karate class. Now I'm flipping on 2:16:39.760 --> 2:16:43.279 your ass. Twist all Tech nine. 2:16:44.200 --> 2:16:45.080 Oh that's easy. 2:16:45.240 --> 2:16:52.240 Twisted twist you yeah, shot down shot Town like Twister, 2:16:52.959 --> 2:16:54.880 Twist was Yo, he was y. 2:16:55.440 --> 2:16:59.040 Twist was Twister when he was telling Twister he was 2:16:59.080 --> 2:16:59.600 one Twister. 2:17:00.080 --> 2:17:02.120 He was the first. I gotta give it up. I 2:17:02.200 --> 2:17:03.680 gotta give respect Flowers. 2:17:04.240 --> 2:17:05.960 He was the first dude from Chicago to have a 2:17:06.080 --> 2:17:10.080 like a to be signed to a major, major job. 2:17:10.680 --> 2:17:13.400 He was signed to Loud Loud even though you know, 2:17:13.440 --> 2:17:16.359 I'm saying to have a national like we had late 2:17:16.520 --> 2:17:18.320 doing Loud. 2:17:18.160 --> 2:17:20.119 So like he was doing. 2:17:20.240 --> 2:17:22.360 Man, he did his thing and continue to do it. 2:17:22.400 --> 2:17:24.040 And he was in a Guinness Book of World Records. 2:17:24.320 --> 2:17:29.800 Went against really I didn't know. He went against the 2:17:30.879 --> 2:17:33.800 fastest rapid. 2:17:34.120 --> 2:17:35.840 Try called quests or the Woo Tank. 2:17:37.120 --> 2:17:52.400 You listen, we got you by the way. That's he's 2:17:52.440 --> 2:17:57.400 taking the more interview clan. 2:17:58.959 --> 2:18:01.640 I'm gonna go Woo Man and the wol like the wolves, 2:18:01.800 --> 2:18:06.720 Like I gotta let me acknowledge that being from Chicago 2:18:06.840 --> 2:18:10.360 when we saw Ice cubing them hold forty ounces and 2:18:10.879 --> 2:18:13.879 and just being like that was similar to our culture 2:18:15.120 --> 2:18:15.480 New York. 2:18:16.240 --> 2:18:23.879 I mean we I I'm from the South Side. Culture 2:18:23.959 --> 2:18:25.879 was very similar to the same culture. 2:18:25.879 --> 2:18:28.720 And it was a lot of things similar. You know, 2:18:28.920 --> 2:18:30.920 like a lot of our roots come from the South. 2:18:31.000 --> 2:18:34.000 If you check people from l A say, people from Louisiana, 2:18:35.080 --> 2:18:37.440 that's what we're from. Whereas y'all have like a whole 2:18:37.480 --> 2:18:41.040 lot like from Jamaica eighty but you know, from Mahamas 2:18:41.080 --> 2:18:44.360 from Puerto Rico, we didn't have that as much. So 2:18:44.520 --> 2:18:47.320 not being said, I related to n w A point 2:18:47.400 --> 2:18:49.240 blank and they was like dope, and I was like 2:18:49.320 --> 2:18:52.040 straight out of Comptown. The bitch is a bitch ice Cube, 2:18:52.200 --> 2:18:54.680 like I loved all that ship you didn't relate to 2:18:54.760 --> 2:19:02.400 and I said, I did, but I'm very curious. But 2:19:02.440 --> 2:19:06.680 when I heard Wu Tang, I was like, yo, I've 2:19:06.800 --> 2:19:12.160 never heard anything where it's nine mcsne love the right and. 2:19:12.240 --> 2:19:13.600 I love something. 2:19:15.200 --> 2:19:19.360 And each one is a superhero. If we would have 2:19:19.440 --> 2:19:23.040 had like the access we have now when Wu Tang 2:19:23.120 --> 2:19:25.720 came out. And by the way, they got a TV 2:19:25.800 --> 2:19:30.160 show about them on Hulu, so that is already. 2:19:30.280 --> 2:19:32.160 But what they did when I. 2:19:32.240 --> 2:19:35.279 Heard Protect your Neck, Yeah, it's all crazy. 2:19:35.560 --> 2:19:36.800 The Wu Tang man is. 2:19:37.280 --> 2:19:40.720 I mean, they untouchable in certain ways to me, like 2:19:40.760 --> 2:19:43.480 because I have that many mcs, and then you can 2:19:43.520 --> 2:19:46.400 see the growth and like from when you hear protect 2:19:46.440 --> 2:19:49.320 your Neck and you hear ray and ghosts and then 2:19:49.360 --> 2:19:52.400 you hit them on only built for Cuban Link, it's 2:19:52.440 --> 2:19:55.080 a whole other level and you can hear that growth. 2:19:55.400 --> 2:19:57.600 But then you got the genius who was always on 2:19:57.720 --> 2:19:59.840 that old dirty bass is one of the most soul 2:20:00.080 --> 2:20:04.040 for rappers you ever ever. So I'm talking about like 2:20:05.120 --> 2:20:07.520 I don't know about you knowing, but for me, sometimes 2:20:07.560 --> 2:20:09.760 I can get in the booth and I stopped trying 2:20:09.760 --> 2:20:11.800 to wrap the thing the same way I did it 2:20:11.879 --> 2:20:15.000 before rapping. Rapping, I'll be hearing takes the o dB 2:20:15.200 --> 2:20:16.160 doing that ship different. 2:20:17.680 --> 2:20:19.080 And that ship is soul. 2:20:20.320 --> 2:20:24.720 And and and o dB was a person like I 2:20:24.800 --> 2:20:31.200 wrote records for o dB. You did make a goal. 2:20:31.320 --> 2:20:33.600 Listen what Dave had you do it? I don't think 2:20:33.680 --> 2:20:38.840 most of them never really wanted to really, So that's right, 2:20:38.920 --> 2:20:45.640 that's right, because you like somebodody you met, Yeah, because 2:20:45.640 --> 2:20:52.760 he was cocky. I love he trying to take over 2:20:52.800 --> 2:21:05.360 the interview. What's going on? Here's the funny ship. And 2:21:05.680 --> 2:21:08.440 it's a great question because if you listen to Super Dog, 2:21:08.560 --> 2:21:10.880 if you listen to in the end of Super Dog, 2:21:10.920 --> 2:21:14.880 I go in r E Norri the remix super Doug 2:21:15.920 --> 2:21:18.400 was the remix to n O R E my song 2:21:18.840 --> 2:21:24.360 the single My album was already done handed in Oh wow, 2:21:24.879 --> 2:21:29.440 and this is this young man. It was a dude 2:21:29.440 --> 2:21:35.720 by the name Rob Walker. I know mar Moore, let 2:21:35.760 --> 2:21:39.600 me pick up. Martin was like, yo, who's on the album? 2:21:39.680 --> 2:21:43.120 Who's on the ro radio skit? 2:21:45.000 --> 2:21:50.360 That's the first yeah, yeah, saying radio like. 2:21:55.280 --> 2:21:58.200 Yeah, you know, my manager to what really was my in? 2:22:00.040 --> 2:22:03.240 So he hits me and listen, you have to meet 2:22:03.280 --> 2:22:10.360 this group called the Neptunes. I'm like that ship sounds amazing. Neptunes. 2:22:13.720 --> 2:22:16.600 We meet that sound on sound studios. I have on 2:22:16.840 --> 2:22:25.000 five X pants, Wow, five X shirt for sure. This 2:22:25.120 --> 2:22:28.160 is a big cloth, big clothes. My hat had to 2:22:28.240 --> 2:22:29.280 be big too as well. 2:22:30.640 --> 2:22:31.000 I don't know. 2:22:31.280 --> 2:22:35.080 I gave it somewhere and in comes these two guys 2:22:36.320 --> 2:22:43.160 exact opposite. This shirt is very tight. He has a 2:22:43.280 --> 2:22:47.200 choke go on, making the thing show a little bit. 2:22:49.240 --> 2:22:53.040 Sure, you're not exaggerating. He was that tight you already. 2:22:54.560 --> 2:22:57.600 He wanted to be the exact opposite of what was 2:22:57.680 --> 2:23:00.280 going on, but delivered music of what. 2:23:00.440 --> 2:23:00.800 Was going on. 2:23:01.120 --> 2:23:03.600 He and he, ha's when I tell this story, because 2:23:04.080 --> 2:23:09.400 you know, he's humble now now that he's fucking head 2:23:09.400 --> 2:23:12.440 of Louis fucking Baton, he's humble now. 2:23:13.040 --> 2:23:16.040 But let me just tell you something. He wasn't then, okay, 2:23:16.959 --> 2:23:17.800 And he looked at me. 2:23:18.040 --> 2:23:19.840 Because he had I don't want to say I've ever 2:23:19.879 --> 2:23:21.600 been the first person that worked before, because that's not 2:23:21.680 --> 2:23:24.920 the truth. Work for Neptune. Excuse me, that's not the truth. 2:23:25.120 --> 2:23:31.200 They had worked with what what what told no one, 2:23:31.440 --> 2:23:34.240 No one put them actually on the record, and no 2:23:34.320 --> 2:23:37.960 one put them in the forefront. And he looked at 2:23:38.000 --> 2:23:42.200 me and he said, he's a he's when I say 2:23:42.240 --> 2:23:44.600 this story, but I'm gonna say it again. He goes, 2:23:45.240 --> 2:23:47.720 no one's listened to me, but the first person that 2:23:47.840 --> 2:23:49.480 listened to me is gonna go number one. 2:23:50.280 --> 2:23:51.800 And I was, I don't know why I did that. 2:23:54.520 --> 2:23:55.840 That's how in my mind. 2:23:55.959 --> 2:23:59.480 Just let me roll with the story. And I was like, 2:23:59.520 --> 2:24:03.560 I believe, I just believed him. It was like he 2:24:03.680 --> 2:24:05.440 was the exact opposite of me. For the lack of 2:24:05.480 --> 2:24:07.920 a better term, was I always describe it as this, 2:24:08.000 --> 2:24:10.840 and it gets a little weird, but I call the 2:24:10.840 --> 2:24:11.600 beauty and the beast. 2:24:12.120 --> 2:24:15.400 They had nothing like we have nothing else in common. 2:24:16.720 --> 2:24:20.680 Just music. Like that's what I gotta be sometimes, I 2:24:20.840 --> 2:24:24.000 gotta be sometimes like I remember, like me and me 2:24:24.120 --> 2:24:25.720 and me, and for ever been in the studio for 2:24:25.800 --> 2:24:30.000 at least, you know, ten years. Me let me not 2:24:30.320 --> 2:24:30.920 just safe. 2:24:31.040 --> 2:24:37.600 I don't ever remember us ordering the same food. I 2:24:37.680 --> 2:24:42.039 don't ever remember us order doing anything other than music. 2:24:42.480 --> 2:24:46.080 But that's what's so dope, that's what's so double about music. Music. 2:24:46.120 --> 2:24:49.920 Because I've been around so many people that I'll be like, man, 2:24:50.000 --> 2:24:50.560 I would. 2:24:50.360 --> 2:24:54.240 Have sometimes music, deperate and keep it still respectable. 2:24:54.879 --> 2:24:59.119 Yeah. Yeah, it's a common ground, common ground like pun 2:24:59.200 --> 2:25:14.200 intended move on, Okay, yeah mo O P or mob Deep. 2:25:14.240 --> 2:25:17.039 And I'm doing that to you because I know you're 2:25:17.040 --> 2:25:19.920 gonna drink. Let me get my show. 2:25:21.400 --> 2:25:22.280 Damn you got to. 2:25:22.480 --> 2:25:25.520 You're talking about to ill producers, Havoc and Premier. 2:25:26.680 --> 2:25:29.440 Those are two monster duos out there, sucked up niggas. 2:25:29.680 --> 2:25:32.520 That's it's double right there, your friends. 2:25:36.560 --> 2:25:40.480 Wow, I love m O P. 2:25:41.560 --> 2:25:44.320 I don't get it sucked up, but it's something about 2:25:46.400 --> 2:25:52.240 man like it's Havoc. The way he made ones is amazing, 2:25:52.800 --> 2:25:54.480 like that, I know the sample. 2:25:54.560 --> 2:25:57.520 I listened to the record. You would never know hear. 2:25:59.000 --> 2:25:59.560 The sample. 2:25:59.720 --> 2:26:04.280 You want hear the familiarity unless you slow it all. 2:26:04.600 --> 2:26:09.560 Then he told me that was that's a jazz. 2:26:09.840 --> 2:26:15.240 That's where the liquor in Havoc. It's a it's a 2:26:15.320 --> 2:26:16.080 fucking tool. 2:26:17.160 --> 2:26:22.440 He did that. It's the same with Survival of the Fittest. 2:26:22.480 --> 2:26:23.440 Survival of the Fittest. 2:26:23.520 --> 2:26:26.400 You don't know where that sample comes from unless he 2:26:26.640 --> 2:26:28.279 tells you, or unless fire. 2:26:28.720 --> 2:26:29.199 I was listening. 2:26:29.320 --> 2:26:32.360 He told me, he told me what he used. I 2:26:32.520 --> 2:26:35.080 had the record. I had the record but I didn't 2:26:35.080 --> 2:26:38.560 hear nothing oning it, so I'm listening to it. 2:26:38.640 --> 2:26:40.879 And then when he told me, I slowed it down, said. 2:26:43.360 --> 2:26:45.560 Crazy havoc is nil. 2:26:48.040 --> 2:26:50.800 You picked, but I'm still taking a shot. He didn't. 2:26:51.720 --> 2:26:52.320 He just gave. 2:26:53.800 --> 2:26:58.920 He picked deep now mob Deep like Mob Deep when 2:26:58.959 --> 2:27:01.760 I heard the infamous, but I was. 2:27:01.840 --> 2:27:04.600 Like, you had juvenile hell. Yeah, I heard, which is 2:27:04.680 --> 2:27:06.560 crazy that you were able to come back from. 2:27:06.440 --> 2:27:08.840 That juvenile hell. Didn't the movie like that. 2:27:12.120 --> 2:27:15.680 First joint they had to learn and listen first, and 2:27:15.800 --> 2:27:18.440 then they were literally juveniles trying to figure it out. 2:27:18.640 --> 2:27:19.560 They was they was doing it. 2:27:19.879 --> 2:27:22.320 But I remember hearing Shook Ones. 2:27:22.400 --> 2:27:25.920 I was in New York, like, staying at somebody house 2:27:25.959 --> 2:27:28.320 that worked in my label, just trying to make a living, 2:27:28.920 --> 2:27:29.880 and I heard Shook Ones. 2:27:29.920 --> 2:27:31.400 I said, man, this ship is. 2:27:31.720 --> 2:27:33.600 I was like, you sure the sample comes from here 2:27:33.640 --> 2:27:38.160 because it's it's fast. It's fast, jazz fast loop. 2:27:38.200 --> 2:27:43.600 It's like that's all it did. And then he just 2:27:44.280 --> 2:27:45.560 and then then you get. 2:27:47.120 --> 2:27:50.160 Man and that ship. That's the dopest hip hop songs ever. 2:27:50.560 --> 2:27:54.520 Yeah, the game and then like you said, Survival of 2:27:54.600 --> 2:27:56.880 the Finish, I promise you I was listening to that before. 2:27:57.040 --> 2:27:59.280 When I came here today, I was listening to Survival 2:27:59.280 --> 2:28:03.000 of the Fittish. But you know when Bignoyd here, Big 2:28:03.120 --> 2:28:06.320 Nooyd on their joints, like and like hearing even Tip 2:28:06.440 --> 2:28:10.240 to flip that what he did that album the infamous, 2:28:10.680 --> 2:28:14.520 Like when you Yo Tip told me he ended up 2:28:14.560 --> 2:28:20.400 mixing that album or whatever. And I feel like what 2:28:20.680 --> 2:28:24.400 Havo and Prodigy brought as talents and then Q Tip's 2:28:24.440 --> 2:28:27.000 experience of what the sonic we need to sound like 2:28:27.760 --> 2:28:31.000 the album just changed anything. It was like that was 2:28:31.080 --> 2:28:35.039 one that's one of my favorite albums. And I'm definitely 2:28:35.080 --> 2:28:36.680 taking a shot to that because you're gonna be like 2:28:36.760 --> 2:28:40.320 that ain't the sample and then weak we're taking a shot. 2:28:40.360 --> 2:28:42.800 We're gonna take a shot. I'm taking a shot from 2:28:42.840 --> 2:28:48.960 Mob Deep God bless so protest shout out to I'm 2:28:48.959 --> 2:28:50.080 gonna play pop. 2:28:50.720 --> 2:28:53.920 I missed Yo Yo. 2:28:54.879 --> 2:28:59.640 A little side note is fucking the bitching you. The 2:28:59.760 --> 2:29:01.800 only time I went to the only time I went 2:29:01.879 --> 2:29:06.400 to Queen's Bridge. I went to meet up with Havoc 2:29:07.160 --> 2:29:09.000 and he was going to do a remix to the Bitches, 2:29:10.760 --> 2:29:13.080 and he actually did a remix, not he was going 2:29:13.120 --> 2:29:16.920 on remix going a c Yes, we did a remix 2:29:17.000 --> 2:29:17.920 and he was on a course. 2:29:22.840 --> 2:29:27.040 You know, it's all he wanted. He just he just 2:29:27.240 --> 2:29:27.840 was like he was. 2:29:29.120 --> 2:29:31.360 You know, the niggas like yo. These niggas just in 2:29:31.400 --> 2:29:33.400 the West Coast, they like so they were like, yo, 2:29:33.560 --> 2:29:35.480 you said what we well, we feel. 2:29:35.320 --> 2:29:37.600 Into but you have some stuff going on, which is 2:29:37.840 --> 2:29:41.160 h l A l A toold. 2:29:41.200 --> 2:29:44.360 But yes, sir. When I heard that, Jorge was okay, 2:29:44.520 --> 2:29:45.400 let me let you finish. 2:29:46.560 --> 2:29:50.280 I went to the Queen's Bridge. The niggas took me around. 2:29:50.920 --> 2:29:53.800 I was with one of the twins and twins and 2:29:53.920 --> 2:29:57.440 we was we went to power play and then I 2:29:57.520 --> 2:30:00.600 remember just sitting there and talking with them niggas. I was. 2:30:00.720 --> 2:30:01.560 I remember I was reading. 2:30:01.640 --> 2:30:03.520 It was like, man, you're doing some ship Producty'll do 2:30:03.879 --> 2:30:06.680 And I was trying to get in my zone. And 2:30:06.800 --> 2:30:10.879 then I Havoc made this beat and I was like yo, 2:30:12.320 --> 2:30:14.040 and he's like, you know, I'm gonna say the hook 2:30:14.120 --> 2:30:16.560 with you and I see the bitch in you and 2:30:17.000 --> 2:30:18.680 always wondering where that ship is. 2:30:19.400 --> 2:30:20.960 We did that. I'm gonna ask him about it. 2:30:21.040 --> 2:30:22.200 We did that last time. 2:30:23.160 --> 2:30:25.720 Immediately, I want to do wherever you at, whoever got 2:30:26.640 --> 2:30:28.600 open out from real right now. 2:30:29.280 --> 2:30:33.520 He did that Queen's Bridge experience. I felt good too, 2:30:33.600 --> 2:30:36.080 but I was like, damn, Mom took me through. You know, 2:30:36.200 --> 2:30:38.360 it's like that, like what you said about Cabrinie Green, 2:30:38.760 --> 2:30:41.160 certain people like from that area took you through that. 2:30:42.080 --> 2:30:45.119 Molly and master A took me through Queensbridge. 2:30:46.680 --> 2:30:51.879 And you know what this crazy thing is. I heard 2:30:51.959 --> 2:30:52.800 with Marty Maul. 2:30:54.040 --> 2:30:55.880 He got on this show and he told us that 2:30:56.040 --> 2:30:59.640 he recorded rock Kim's whole album queens Bridge, and I 2:30:59.760 --> 2:31:03.240 was just like the fun he said this, He said 2:31:03.280 --> 2:31:05.360 in the same team, you're seeing that right now and 2:31:05.480 --> 2:31:09.120 he said yeah, man, I was just like wow that 2:31:09.240 --> 2:31:11.160 it is amazing, like he recorded. 2:31:11.760 --> 2:31:14.240 I got a question from for all of y'all just all. 2:31:15.200 --> 2:31:19.000 Like taking on show. Peep in this we know we 2:31:19.320 --> 2:31:20.320 see we can see. 2:31:20.920 --> 2:31:23.520 One of my hip hop comrades that I work with 2:31:23.640 --> 2:31:23.920 a lot. 2:31:24.760 --> 2:31:34.280 So yes, we got the Master's best Soul of Dave 2:31:34.959 --> 2:31:36.840 and is actually on our our. 2:31:38.320 --> 2:31:40.920 I didn't bring it up for that reason, but one 2:31:40.959 --> 2:31:44.439 of them told me that that Sham wrote that exploded. 2:31:44.480 --> 2:31:45.080 Is that true? Yeah? 2:31:45.400 --> 2:31:47.280 Look, but did. 2:31:47.240 --> 2:31:51.200 Sham right any of rock Kim's first choice? Like somebody 2:31:51.280 --> 2:31:53.680 told me that sham you You're starting to funk up room. 2:31:56.320 --> 2:32:02.560 I don't know how you hit things. Yeah, I just 2:32:02.680 --> 2:32:12.760 want to know I ship somebody sitting on me. 2:32:13.440 --> 2:32:16.640 Not now you know it probably ain't true, you know, 2:32:16.760 --> 2:32:18.560 but but it was like, yeah, he wrote some of 2:32:18.600 --> 2:32:21.400 the early like my melody or something, but then it 2:32:21.480 --> 2:32:22.440 don't sound like shame. 2:32:22.560 --> 2:32:25.240 I can't hear that. I can't hear that. I just 2:32:25.320 --> 2:32:31.080 can't see no anybody writing to bring it up because 2:32:31.160 --> 2:32:32.040 because I don't think so. 2:32:32.360 --> 2:32:34.120 When they brought it up to me and it was 2:32:34.320 --> 2:32:36.039 coming from official niggas. 2:32:35.680 --> 2:32:37.480 I'm like, I think Shane would have sent it on drinking, 2:32:37.920 --> 2:32:44.120 would have brew it up. Always you got the bottle 2:32:46.160 --> 2:32:51.920 ship your life is not right. It's true. He really do. 2:32:52.400 --> 2:32:55.320 He really goes and he goes at everybody does not 2:32:55.400 --> 2:32:58.400 give some of the ship. He says. It's kind of 2:32:58.480 --> 2:33:05.880 truth true, Like man, I'm in, yes, I'm he's not 2:33:05.959 --> 2:33:17.320 wearing his teeth. I like that shampoo, yeah, drinking shampoople. 2:33:17.320 --> 2:33:18.920 What is it called? What do you call it? Sham piper? 2:33:19.000 --> 2:33:19.280 What does it? 2:33:19.600 --> 2:33:21.080 We're gonna call it sham people. 2:33:22.400 --> 2:33:29.200 With the sizzle with the whizzle. By the way, let 2:33:29.280 --> 2:33:32.039 me tell you something. We interviewed MC sharing this motherfucker 2:33:32.120 --> 2:33:35.200 went over there. I even know that existed. I was like, 2:33:35.280 --> 2:33:37.040 holy ship, we got a part of them with it. 2:33:37.480 --> 2:33:38.360 And he went over there. 2:33:38.440 --> 2:33:42.520 So episode I salute y'all team. She she is more 2:33:42.760 --> 2:33:43.959 more intensive than. 2:33:50.360 --> 2:33:50.400 You. 2:33:50.520 --> 2:33:55.560 Know what's crazy. I'm I'm gotching a flight to see 2:33:55.760 --> 2:33:58.640 to see you. I'm like, this nigger commonist is here 2:33:58.760 --> 2:33:59.320 at the game. 2:34:01.320 --> 2:34:04.400 I have no excuse. So I pushed my flight up. Yeah, 2:34:04.640 --> 2:34:07.400 that's how I got. I was like, yeah, I really 2:34:07.440 --> 2:34:08.080 didn't want you to be. 2:34:10.920 --> 2:34:14.959 Yesterday. I don't want no artists to beat me here. 2:34:15.480 --> 2:34:17.440 So I was like you, I was, I was so 2:34:17.640 --> 2:34:18.040 mad at you. 2:34:18.800 --> 2:34:22.120 I was like, he came early to beat rockets on 2:34:22.200 --> 2:34:26.520 the flight with me. I was like, I gotta beat him. 2:34:26.600 --> 2:34:33.039 And the plane there was no nor insight. 2:34:35.320 --> 2:34:36.880 You know how you can still see if my people 2:34:36.959 --> 2:34:37.520 walking down. 2:34:38.840 --> 2:34:43.400 So he was calling a complex now that I'm I'm 2:34:43.400 --> 2:34:44.959 still an artist. I'm gonna be artist for the rest 2:34:45.000 --> 2:34:47.760 of my life, but I have a complex where I 2:34:47.959 --> 2:34:50.640 want you to I want my team to salute you 2:34:50.680 --> 2:34:52.560 when you walk in, and I want I want I 2:34:52.640 --> 2:34:53.640 want you to feel great. 2:34:54.160 --> 2:34:59.360 And I was running here and they said comment there. 2:34:59.480 --> 2:35:05.800 I was like, was like telling them we're not open. Yo, Yo, 2:35:05.879 --> 2:35:07.000 I ain't gonna yesterday. 2:35:07.160 --> 2:35:08.720 There was you know, they was like, yo, we got 2:35:08.800 --> 2:35:13.000 we got to schedule for this. Were at the game. 2:35:13.520 --> 2:35:15.160 We're gonna tell the New York because you're not allowed 2:35:15.240 --> 2:35:21.400 no more. Okay. 2:35:24.440 --> 2:35:27.120 So I was yo when they told me, they was like, yo, 2:35:27.760 --> 2:35:29.800 they want to move the time back. And and then 2:35:29.840 --> 2:35:32.360 there was I was like, because Chris shout out to 2:35:32.480 --> 2:35:33.400 Chris atleast one. 2:35:33.959 --> 2:35:41.480 Chris Chris Chris Christie thing like Yo, they want to 2:35:41.520 --> 2:35:43.000 move the time back. Boom boom boom. 2:35:43.400 --> 2:35:45.280 I was like, okay, cool, and that might mean I 2:35:45.360 --> 2:35:47.360 might get on the later flight. And then I was like, 2:35:48.040 --> 2:35:49.160 I got to do I was supposed to do a 2:35:49.240 --> 2:35:51.560 sound checking blah blah blah, going the show. And then 2:35:52.000 --> 2:35:54.320 I said, well Ship, damn, how we gonna do this? 2:35:54.840 --> 2:35:58.240 And then they said, okay, they really want to move 2:35:58.280 --> 2:36:04.000 the time back because nor at the next day, I 2:36:04.120 --> 2:36:14.199 was like, yeah, we gotta go to the yah. 2:36:14.920 --> 2:36:17.760 Listen, oh Ship, I know we spoke about it earlier, 2:36:17.840 --> 2:36:19.920 but that euphoria, yeah. 2:36:21.200 --> 2:36:23.360 Yeah, you know, and then they have but I know 2:36:23.440 --> 2:36:28.000 he spoke talking about right then they had Mark Jack 2:36:29.560 --> 2:36:33.400 the trail spreeing Patrick and John stepped to me too, 2:36:33.480 --> 2:36:36.960 he said, and at the foul line, like Pat, you 2:36:38.280 --> 2:36:39.400 know I said that back in the day. 2:36:39.920 --> 2:36:43.160 Looks that's yo. 2:36:43.360 --> 2:36:49.680 And by the way, like I'm still like humble, humble 2:36:49.760 --> 2:36:54.800 person of course. So Fat Joe sees Spike, Lee and 2:36:56.280 --> 2:36:59.520 Joe and they started talking and I'm just like, let 2:36:59.560 --> 2:37:00.440 me mind my business. 2:37:00.560 --> 2:37:03.360 You just let me just be a little humble. 2:37:04.920 --> 2:37:07.040 Fat Joe was offering me drinks this you know, you 2:37:07.120 --> 2:37:09.760 know it's bad. I don't want to even drink. I 2:37:09.800 --> 2:37:11.920 just want to be on my best biek or whatever 2:37:12.240 --> 2:37:15.160 it's Spike legos and then Fat goes cool, Let's take 2:37:15.200 --> 2:37:21.280 a picture, Spike, Spike goes norm getting a fucking picture, a. 2:37:21.320 --> 2:37:32.680 Fucking awesome time, y'all bro going like, I'm thinking about 2:37:33.280 --> 2:37:35.320 the first record we made and that was nineteen ninety eight. 2:37:35.720 --> 2:37:39.480 Ninety eight, that's the best year of my Life's so yeah, 2:37:39.520 --> 2:37:41.440 both of y'all know, you know it's the best year 2:37:41.480 --> 2:37:45.080 of my life. I'm also worst year of my life 2:37:45.120 --> 2:37:48.039 because of incidents I lost I think we lost pun 2:37:48.320 --> 2:37:51.000 that yeah, and I lost my fall, God bless you. 2:37:51.640 --> 2:37:52.960 But I had the illest success. 2:37:53.120 --> 2:37:54.760 I had the most you know, you know what I mean, 2:37:55.000 --> 2:37:59.600 and when I'm looking at that, if you know, you know, 2:37:59.800 --> 2:38:02.600 you know he's crazy. He has all of your album 2:38:02.879 --> 2:38:10.080 He's just I thought I was just talking and I'm 2:38:10.160 --> 2:38:14.199 looking and I'm like wow. And then and then yesterday 2:38:14.640 --> 2:38:18.080 I get to see you. You're literally like the very 2:38:18.400 --> 2:38:22.520 seat that it's across from. Then and then I see 2:38:22.560 --> 2:38:23.800 you in the airport. 2:38:23.480 --> 2:38:25.640 And I was like, god, it is really. 2:38:27.120 --> 2:38:29.640 Like it's meant to be like this is not this 2:38:30.000 --> 2:38:32.560 is and and like like again, I know I said 2:38:32.560 --> 2:38:35.120 it earlier, but I'm gonna reiterated before we finished Quick 2:38:35.160 --> 2:38:40.000 Time Slim, but I'm so happy that this but I'm 2:38:40.040 --> 2:38:44.119 really so happy one that your brothers are together, brothers. 2:38:46.360 --> 2:38:48.200 Neither one of y'all forgot about hip hop. And like 2:38:48.280 --> 2:38:50.440 I said, every time I see y'all, I know that 2:38:50.560 --> 2:38:54.280 y'all represented hip hop, and I just want to I 2:38:54.360 --> 2:38:56.640 just want to thank y'all one more time before we finished. 2:38:56.840 --> 2:38:59.400 I want to pay because. 2:39:01.720 --> 2:39:04.879 They really have platform for allowing us to be seen 2:39:04.959 --> 2:39:07.960 and heard, to really show people that like we're still 2:39:08.040 --> 2:39:08.600 ow here. 2:39:09.120 --> 2:39:10.000 The talent and. 2:39:11.640 --> 2:39:14.000 Y'all been doing you know, y'all do this and it's 2:39:14.080 --> 2:39:18.200 and it's important man, like like that people that then 2:39:18.360 --> 2:39:21.160 know the culture and know hip hop and come from it, 2:39:21.800 --> 2:39:25.280 like y'all reaching people that there's some people that didn't 2:39:25.360 --> 2:39:26.000 know the culture. 2:39:26.480 --> 2:39:27.119 You know what I'm saying. 2:39:27.240 --> 2:39:31.280 There's people that like y'all introducing people. But because y'all 2:39:31.560 --> 2:39:35.480 like gonna bring Marley Marl and mc shan on, somebody 2:39:35.600 --> 2:39:37.680 is gonna know that or Patty LaBelle or you know, 2:39:37.920 --> 2:39:41.160 like like whomever, like like, I mean, we know these 2:39:41.240 --> 2:39:43.959 some of the people, but some we don't. But because 2:39:44.040 --> 2:39:46.080 y'all know it the way you know it, it's like 2:39:46.240 --> 2:39:49.520 really supposed to like who we are. 2:39:50.480 --> 2:39:54.119 So to think that we don't watch Yes, no, well 2:39:54.160 --> 2:39:58.960 thank you, because I see I see these answers and 2:39:59.040 --> 2:40:00.640 these even more August. 2:40:03.120 --> 2:40:06.920 Oh yeah, I think you got to ask. 2:40:06.840 --> 2:40:17.360 This which oh yeah, yeah yeah, ice Cuber, Scarface, I'm. 2:40:17.200 --> 2:40:19.160 Gonna ask the first, but I'm gonna tell you I 2:40:19.280 --> 2:40:24.400 already know who I'm gonna say, Scarface, OK for me, 2:40:24.800 --> 2:40:25.800 I'm going ice Cube. 2:40:26.400 --> 2:40:26.600 Man. 2:40:28.000 --> 2:40:31.800 The fact that ice Cube I don't know, man, he's 2:40:31.920 --> 2:40:36.560 the ice Cube America's most wanted death certificate. I can't 2:40:36.560 --> 2:40:42.440 forget that bird, his hand killing, the fact that he wrote, 2:40:42.440 --> 2:40:44.960 he one thing he did Little Jim he told me, 2:40:45.080 --> 2:40:47.680 I hope he shared it with everybody else. But but 2:40:48.560 --> 2:40:55.039 that song, well, easy was like, uh, little girls and boys, 2:40:55.360 --> 2:40:59.400 they all love me. He wrote that for Easy gangst Fairy, 2:41:00.280 --> 2:41:02.560 he said, little girls and boys they all love me. 2:41:02.959 --> 2:41:06.039 Co sit on a lot of Easy, but he changed 2:41:06.080 --> 2:41:07.920 it to ice and made it his song. 2:41:08.360 --> 2:41:10.760 The fact that he could write songs for other people 2:41:10.800 --> 2:41:13.320 and they feel like they songs. But then he write 2:41:13.400 --> 2:41:15.400 his own ship and it was like ship. We had 2:41:15.480 --> 2:41:18.240 never heard, like I used to love a bitch as 2:41:18.280 --> 2:41:20.680 a bitch. And people probably won't think that because you know, 2:41:26.160 --> 2:41:28.920 sometimes y'all be like if I'm in this conscious figga 2:41:28.959 --> 2:41:34.120 that only do it like I'm so so that being said, 2:41:34.200 --> 2:41:35.960 it's like I don't know I'm gonna go with Cube 2:41:36.200 --> 2:41:39.560 much respect to Scott Face, and I love it, but 2:41:39.600 --> 2:41:40.160 I feel like. 2:41:41.879 --> 2:41:42.880 I'm I'm an MC. 2:41:43.120 --> 2:41:46.160 So I be feeling like I be looking sometimes when 2:41:46.200 --> 2:41:49.360 I hear influence, and I think at some point Scott 2:41:49.440 --> 2:41:53.360 Face is influenced by Ice Cube and and I just 2:41:53.520 --> 2:41:56.640 Scott Face is amazing. It's just and soulful ship. But 2:41:56.760 --> 2:42:00.200 Ice Cuba is like, man, he did some legend there. 2:42:00.280 --> 2:42:00.480 Ship. 2:42:00.600 --> 2:42:03.280 This is like straight out of company a lot of 2:42:03.360 --> 2:42:06.280 that ship history history, definitely history. 2:42:07.440 --> 2:42:13.119 Yeah right, you said scarface scarface, and I say scarface 2:42:13.240 --> 2:42:18.240 because you know, after speaking to him and getting to 2:42:18.320 --> 2:42:19.480 be his friend and ship like. 2:42:19.520 --> 2:42:23.760 That, it's like faces deep. Yeah, he's funny, he's you know. 2:42:23.920 --> 2:42:29.320 The Block is one of my favorite joints. And Hours album. Yeah, 2:42:29.360 --> 2:42:35.080 the albums, The Face with album Love. That album was crazy. 2:42:35.160 --> 2:42:37.640 Who did that be know Block? 2:42:38.160 --> 2:42:39.880 Yeah, Kanye or the Rism? 2:42:40.240 --> 2:42:40.640 I think it was. 2:42:40.720 --> 2:42:43.520 Yeah, I think it was Yeah, Kanye or the Rism. 2:42:44.480 --> 2:42:59.360 He's taking over the got you you asking me? All right? 2:42:59.400 --> 2:43:09.720 So all right with Crateria, you can't get about beats. 2:43:12.920 --> 2:43:15.560 I'm ill tell you this, damn that's all. 2:43:15.680 --> 2:43:19.160 I have worked with the Risen before, and I've worked 2:43:19.160 --> 2:43:22.200 with Ye. I've never worked with Ye as a producer, 2:43:22.920 --> 2:43:24.720 but Yay scared the ship out of me. 2:43:26.120 --> 2:43:26.920 One day I'm in. 2:43:27.000 --> 2:43:32.800 Carbon, I wrote a whole rhyme in carbon. By the way, 2:43:33.040 --> 2:43:40.920 I am a resource from special education child, so I 2:43:41.040 --> 2:43:46.160 write in graffiti, even type type in graff. No one 2:43:46.240 --> 2:43:48.760 could read my my my my wife can't read it. 2:43:49.640 --> 2:43:53.280 My wife can't read it because you're a Gemini. But no, no, no, 2:43:53.720 --> 2:43:55.959 I say, my wife can't read it. She's never tried. 2:43:56.280 --> 2:43:58.400 My wife never looked at my phone for a rhyme. 2:43:58.760 --> 2:44:02.440 You know what I'm saying, like it, but no one 2:44:02.520 --> 2:44:06.080 could read my rhymes, like like, I've never met somebody 2:44:06.160 --> 2:44:10.080 that can read my rhyme. Kanye not only read my rhyme, 2:44:11.440 --> 2:44:14.520 he read it how I wrote it, like the flow 2:44:14.600 --> 2:44:17.880 that you meant. He looked at my phone. And by 2:44:17.920 --> 2:44:21.200 the way, who the where's miss Diego? Who was it 2:44:21.400 --> 2:44:24.920 with Jeff what's his name? Jared Kushner? This is the 2:44:25.000 --> 2:44:26.840 fucking president's. 2:44:27.320 --> 2:44:30.760 Son in law, son in law at the time, where 2:44:31.040 --> 2:44:32.279 the presidents at the time. 2:44:32.280 --> 2:44:36.160 At the time, And I'm writing around and he's he's 2:44:36.280 --> 2:44:38.840 watching me write the rhyme like you know how sometimes 2:44:38.879 --> 2:44:40.440 like I'm an MC so I just couldn't. 2:44:40.879 --> 2:44:44.280 I couldn't turn it off. And I put the phone 2:44:44.360 --> 2:44:48.960 down and looked at my phone and he, Yo, he 2:44:49.680 --> 2:44:53.680 knew he spin it how I wrote it. Even if 2:44:53.720 --> 2:44:58.160 you could write it, I don't know that man, Jesus. 2:44:58.200 --> 2:44:58.600 That man. 2:44:59.160 --> 2:45:03.040 He was like Kanye different man. And I looked and 2:45:03.160 --> 2:45:07.080 I was like mostly Hawaiian. 2:45:07.320 --> 2:45:12.120 So some things with him like just threw me. 2:45:12.200 --> 2:45:16.680 Back, Like he's a genius. You can't take away from. 2:45:18.600 --> 2:45:20.680 But I don't use that word that much. He's a 2:45:20.760 --> 2:45:21.560 genius people. 2:45:21.600 --> 2:45:24.400 People get mad when you call and for what he 2:45:24.560 --> 2:45:26.600 does and how he does it, he's a genius. 2:45:26.680 --> 2:45:31.120 He's a musical genius. Yes, yes, wants simple as that 2:45:32.680 --> 2:45:33.240 going around. 2:45:34.320 --> 2:45:35.959 We're gonna get out of quick time of slime. Let's 2:45:37.879 --> 2:45:43.440 yeah this for you again. Okay, Biggie a big punt. 2:45:46.640 --> 2:45:49.640 I love them both, but I'll go with bigg This 2:45:49.800 --> 2:45:53.360 is awesome for you. Bulls are the knicks, you know. 2:45:54.800 --> 2:45:59.560 Come on, I'll say to this comment right now, comment, 2:46:06.760 --> 2:46:06.959 we know. 2:46:07.000 --> 2:46:11.640 You're I'm going with the bulls. Let's remember that we 2:46:11.760 --> 2:46:12.560 shut y'all down. 2:46:13.560 --> 2:46:19.640 You remember we do. Remember we do, y'all. You don't 2:46:19.680 --> 2:46:21.720 have to remind us. We don't remember. I need to 2:46:21.760 --> 2:46:25.960 remind you the bulls. Did you understand that yesterday we 2:46:26.080 --> 2:46:27.960 said fuck you Reggie and he wasn't even in the 2:46:28.000 --> 2:46:38.560 buildings coming exactly. Y'all have heard that her United Center. 2:46:38.800 --> 2:46:41.800 But it's amazing to see that what Mike did to y'all. 2:46:42.120 --> 2:46:43.120 Just think about what Mike. 2:46:44.680 --> 2:46:53.160 Think about Think like his leg it's not working, Think 2:46:53.200 --> 2:46:53.520 about this. 2:46:54.280 --> 2:47:01.320 Yeah, look, no, Patrick Ewing, Charles Barkley, calm alone. Greats 2:47:02.080 --> 2:47:06.320 never got a ring. Gary Payton because of him. Jane 2:47:06.720 --> 2:47:10.960 Man Chicago. We bred that man. We got Oprah, y'all 2:47:11.040 --> 2:47:13.199 named it. Let me go down the list of people 2:47:13.240 --> 2:47:16.320 we got. We we bred, We cultivated Oprah to be 2:47:16.440 --> 2:47:17.000 who she was. 2:47:17.440 --> 2:47:21.959 God bless her. We ain't get I love, I love, 2:47:22.640 --> 2:47:23.360 I love, give up. 2:47:23.640 --> 2:47:29.520 But but but look we Mike, we cultivated him President Obama, obviously, 2:47:29.600 --> 2:47:36.560 Michelle Obama from the man that's in the middle, I'm 2:47:36.560 --> 2:47:40.680 talking about car Minnie rippertsent Kelly. 2:47:40.720 --> 2:47:42.880 We did somewhere. We gotta give it up for a jay. 2:47:47.840 --> 2:47:48.000 You know. 2:47:48.680 --> 2:47:50.680 We go to the New School of Little Dirts and 2:47:51.000 --> 2:47:55.600 her little her broke up. Givego, we got our ship, 2:47:57.040 --> 2:48:00.080 got it go, give. 2:47:59.920 --> 2:48:09.360 It up to chief keeping the herb homies keep clips. 2:48:09.600 --> 2:48:10.160 E p m D. 2:48:12.720 --> 2:48:14.800 I'm going e p m D. Man them dudes, like, 2:48:16.000 --> 2:48:17.000 come on, man, they did. 2:48:17.040 --> 2:48:20.000 You said, clown cli that's kind of odd. 2:48:20.280 --> 2:48:25.640 Yeah, okay, listening like e p m D. 2:48:25.879 --> 2:48:30.520 Come on, man, them four albums like James three. 2:48:30.440 --> 2:48:31.520 They did three segments. 2:48:31.560 --> 2:48:36.200 And you can't pair teachers with youngins. Tell them nigs 2:48:36.200 --> 2:48:41.400 over there, teachers with young that that's that's. 2:48:41.360 --> 2:48:42.880 And the birth of the hit squad out of E 2:48:42.959 --> 2:48:45.480 p m D by itself with that and. 2:48:45.720 --> 2:48:48.200 Just the albums like think about E p m D. 2:48:48.400 --> 2:48:52.119 Got strictly business. Yeah, I'm finished. 2:48:52.120 --> 2:48:57.600 Unfinished business active business like across so all that ship 2:48:57.720 --> 2:48:58.520 that was good? 2:48:58.680 --> 2:49:08.600 Cross like, yeah, bang up, Crazy, just Blaze or DJ Mustard? No, okay, 2:49:09.520 --> 2:49:10.920 who you asking you? 2:49:11.440 --> 2:49:11.920 Just place? 2:49:13.959 --> 2:49:17.960 I know Mustard has a track record of all the 2:49:18.120 --> 2:49:21.840 new new things that's going on, and he's had his hits. 2:49:22.400 --> 2:49:25.800 But I'm gonna go with you know, because I'm gonna 2:49:25.800 --> 2:49:29.480 go with what I know, right, I respect, I know 2:49:29.600 --> 2:49:30.000 the dude. 2:49:30.080 --> 2:49:33.440 So that's what's up. Mm hmm. You ain't even gonna 2:49:33.440 --> 2:49:41.080 answer that crazy. I'm gonna change this one up, okay. 2:49:43.080 --> 2:49:43.440 Mm hmm. 2:49:43.680 --> 2:49:45.840 They we use. He's trying to pick a difficult one, 2:49:49.840 --> 2:49:57.879 that one. I'm a virgo September six, okay, Nas or Biggie. 2:50:00.160 --> 2:50:03.959 That's that's one of the hardest picks for me. Let 2:50:04.040 --> 2:50:06.600 me change it up there, No, no, no, no, I like, 2:50:07.240 --> 2:50:08.880 I like, I'm gonna say, well, if you like to 2:50:08.920 --> 2:50:11.240 break it down like I like, I'm gonna go with NAS. 2:50:11.680 --> 2:50:16.400 And you've been studying with us with study with delegation 2:50:16.560 --> 2:50:17.080 is a real nick. 2:50:22.240 --> 2:50:25.480 Let me say this though about Biggie. I think Biggie 2:50:26.560 --> 2:50:27.440 is to me. 2:50:28.400 --> 2:50:31.320 You know, you hear the word consonant, He's a consonment 2:50:31.560 --> 2:50:34.640 MC because he's one of the MC's that I feel 2:50:34.720 --> 2:50:40.359 like had the some of the dopest lyrics like Simile's metaphors. 2:50:40.840 --> 2:50:43.439 His voice is like a voice. 2:50:43.280 --> 2:50:45.640 Is a gift that God only can get, Like Luther 2:50:45.720 --> 2:50:50.400 Van got a voice, like Whitney Houston, Aretha Franklin Man, 2:50:50.959 --> 2:50:55.120 Minnie Riffertson. It's a voice. Biggie had a voice. Nas 2:50:55.120 --> 2:50:58.760 got a voice. They both they both got like some mcs. 2:50:58.840 --> 2:51:00.920 I'm like, they don't but they ain't got a voice. 2:51:00.959 --> 2:51:01.520 That's a gift. 2:51:01.680 --> 2:51:02.720 But Biggies was unique. 2:51:02.760 --> 2:51:04.040 Biggies was big Mary. 2:51:04.160 --> 2:51:08.600 But NASA's unique to that little grasping this things like incredible. 2:51:09.120 --> 2:51:13.120 Biggie also is incredible with the stories. And one thing 2:51:13.200 --> 2:51:15.480 that I even though I picked NAS, one thing I 2:51:15.520 --> 2:51:17.560 would say Biggie had over a lot of them, sees 2:51:17.920 --> 2:51:21.800 is he knew how to ride over those commercial beats. 2:51:22.080 --> 2:51:26.400 Yeah and still keep it, keep it and keep a gangster. Yeah. 2:51:26.480 --> 2:51:29.800 Yeah, if you take hypnotize and you put that shirt 2:51:29.840 --> 2:51:32.120 on a different beat, you like he was coming by 2:51:32.600 --> 2:51:33.360 nasty girls. 2:51:34.520 --> 2:51:37.000 You know what I'm saying. He so, I got one 2:51:37.040 --> 2:51:37.600 more chance. 2:51:38.640 --> 2:51:41.360 I got a theory that the dudes, the guys you're 2:51:41.400 --> 2:51:44.400 making descent, they ride the rhythms the best buster. 2:51:44.800 --> 2:51:56.280 That's real, that's true. I'm glad. I'm telling you. I 2:51:56.320 --> 2:51:57.840 got a little theory. I'll be studying. 2:51:57.920 --> 2:52:04.160 This would be like the way they ride the robust 2:52:04.240 --> 2:52:05.359 because the greatest. 2:52:05.400 --> 2:52:11.200 Great because you reggae things of dance music. But the 2:52:11.440 --> 2:52:12.959 reg artists be saying some hard. 2:52:14.440 --> 2:52:17.320 On that rhythm and it all starts well. I mean, 2:52:17.320 --> 2:52:19.039 you know, talking about reggae music. 2:52:19.240 --> 2:52:19.280 You. 2:52:19.520 --> 2:52:25.080 Roy was like the reggae artist rap chat in Jamaican. 2:52:25.160 --> 2:52:27.240 You know, when it comes to the Jamaican world full 2:52:27.280 --> 2:52:27.920 of Jamaicans. 2:52:28.480 --> 2:52:32.880 Roy was that guy. He said, big up, Yeah, you 2:52:33.440 --> 2:52:37.560 get the Jamaican master going creat Yeah, you're right. I'm 2:52:37.560 --> 2:52:43.680 glad you're here. He knows about you. We ain't gonna 2:52:43.680 --> 2:52:46.400 hear the rest of this year. Ask him. We're gonna 2:52:46.440 --> 2:52:49.400 be boxing Tomorrow's gonna be like you about it? Rock 2:52:49.520 --> 2:52:54.360 Ye the boy Yes, yard Man who was the state 2:52:54.440 --> 2:52:57.800 side recently to yo, who you know? He who you 2:52:57.959 --> 2:52:59.920 got back in the America? He got back here man? 2:53:00.080 --> 2:53:10.600 Oh yeah, I want to I want to shine, I 2:53:10.720 --> 2:53:11.680 want to welcome back. 2:53:12.080 --> 2:53:21.000 It's crazy. Okay, radio or podcast radio Premiere. 2:53:20.879 --> 2:53:26.320 Or Doctor Dre Premiere for me, okay, yeah, sixth Sense 2:53:27.040 --> 2:53:30.400 and Premier is just you know, that's my taste more. 2:53:30.720 --> 2:53:34.039 I love the Doctor Dre Kronick and all that stuff, 2:53:34.520 --> 2:53:37.360 but Premiere, man, it ain't nothing like some of them 2:53:37.480 --> 2:53:40.680 joints that that the gang style did, like them gang 2:53:40.760 --> 2:53:42.720 Style like when I when I be hearing step into 2:53:42.800 --> 2:53:43.720 the Arena. 2:53:43.879 --> 2:53:44.440 And like. 2:53:46.080 --> 2:53:51.000 The Wick Manifested, like Witch and like some of them joints. 2:53:51.040 --> 2:53:53.800 Is just like I'm like, man, this ship is incredible. 2:53:55.080 --> 2:53:58.160 That's why them dudes is like for me, Pete Rock 2:53:58.600 --> 2:54:01.160 and I know they always get classified together. 2:54:01.240 --> 2:54:03.119 Pete Rock got his own sound, Premier got. 2:54:03.040 --> 2:54:03.959 His own difference. 2:54:04.000 --> 2:54:07.200 But it's just like two greats where you when we 2:54:07.480 --> 2:54:10.400 like talk about like I listen to jazz some Miles 2:54:10.520 --> 2:54:13.360 Davis and John Coltrane and two of my favorites, but 2:54:13.879 --> 2:54:16.560 you know, but they don't sound alike, but they still 2:54:16.640 --> 2:54:19.000 got their own sound. And you know it's I listen 2:54:19.040 --> 2:54:21.440 to them both, and that's what to me with Pete 2:54:21.520 --> 2:54:24.760 Rock and who Pete Rock is. And then Premiere. So 2:54:25.320 --> 2:54:28.800 dre Is drey is like incredible producer, he got the sounds. 2:54:28.840 --> 2:54:29.840 But I'm going with primo. 2:54:30.440 --> 2:54:31.120 I respect that. 2:54:32.080 --> 2:54:41.480 Yeah, oh yeah, acting or rapping, yeah, man, I'm going rapping. Man, 2:54:42.320 --> 2:54:45.800 happened you right back when you saw it, because it's like, 2:54:46.600 --> 2:54:48.959 you know, you know you ever been with. 2:54:50.720 --> 2:54:52.640 Well, y'all married, some of y'all married. 2:54:52.720 --> 2:54:58.160 Yeah, I'm married. You have been like we know you've 2:54:58.200 --> 2:55:15.400 been outside you respect you know you should have been 2:55:15.440 --> 2:55:31.200 called got literally yes, yeah yeah. 2:55:31.440 --> 2:55:34.080 For me, I feel like rapping I was about I 2:55:34.120 --> 2:55:36.000 brought up a woman because I was like, you know 2:55:36.080 --> 2:55:39.520 how you like be like, man, I'm about to go 2:55:39.680 --> 2:55:42.720 out and do, but you always come back home. 2:55:43.640 --> 2:55:45.039 Home. Ain't nothing like home. 2:55:45.879 --> 2:55:49.240 And you know I ain't saying like niggas do go 2:55:49.320 --> 2:55:52.040 out do we married niggas and were staying focused. But 2:55:52.400 --> 2:55:56.760 but but the point is, like, no matter what I do, 2:55:57.840 --> 2:56:02.320 hip hop is always a base. It's always the base. 2:56:02.400 --> 2:56:06.000 I feel like God gave me that understand who I 2:56:06.080 --> 2:56:08.200 am and like to express who I am and to 2:56:08.240 --> 2:56:09.760 be able to touchdown with certain people. 2:56:10.200 --> 2:56:11.680 So acting is. 2:56:11.760 --> 2:56:14.560 Something I love it like I love I ain't gonna lie. 2:56:14.560 --> 2:56:16.280 I love it like I love music. I ain't at 2:56:16.360 --> 2:56:19.480 the level that I you know, like, even though some 2:56:19.560 --> 2:56:21.119 people come to me. I used to love when people 2:56:21.160 --> 2:56:23.400 come to me and be like, man, I like you 2:56:23.520 --> 2:56:24.720 better as an actor than a rap. 2:56:25.920 --> 2:56:30.120 Okay cool, But I can about podcasting. I don't know 2:56:30.200 --> 2:56:31.040 if I like it or not. 2:56:34.520 --> 2:56:40.240 I'm like, show how diverset you out? Like for you 2:56:40.320 --> 2:56:45.840 to go into another and dominate and be great at it. 2:56:47.000 --> 2:56:50.400 That's crazy, That's what that's That's how so for me. 2:56:50.520 --> 2:56:53.160 I love acting, but I ain't gonna lie. Rapping is 2:56:53.280 --> 2:56:56.640 like like, man, I ain't gonna lie. Coming to be 2:56:56.680 --> 2:56:57.959 able to work with Pete was like. 2:56:58.200 --> 2:57:01.560 Man, this is some of the that's like, I was 2:57:01.640 --> 2:57:02.880 something I always wanted to do. 2:57:04.120 --> 2:57:05.120 I've been mating to work with. 2:57:05.600 --> 2:57:09.120 I was peating, like yo, when he sent beats m hm, 2:57:09.640 --> 2:57:11.560 like when he is saying he is sending beats. It's 2:57:11.600 --> 2:57:12.720 just one little snippets. 2:57:13.920 --> 2:57:14.080 Man. 2:57:14.720 --> 2:57:17.080 That's the joy I felt when I first was like, 2:57:18.120 --> 2:57:20.400 it's only certain producers that have been able to do that. 2:57:20.520 --> 2:57:20.800 For me. 2:57:21.360 --> 2:57:24.320 It's only j De Love, Pete Rock and maybe Kanye 2:57:25.120 --> 2:57:28.039 Wow that that's been able to be Like I get 2:57:28.080 --> 2:57:30.440 a beat and I'm like, oh man, my world is 2:57:30.680 --> 2:57:33.080 and it can't nothing messed with my world at this 2:57:33.200 --> 2:57:36.200 point unless it's something with my family going on or something, 2:57:36.240 --> 2:57:39.360 you know. But anyway, when Pete send them beats, so 2:57:39.720 --> 2:57:43.360 I'm gonna go with rapping, man, I was rapping, rapping rap, 2:57:43.640 --> 2:57:44.360 Yeah right. 2:57:44.320 --> 2:57:54.120 I was rap, peak producing or peak rapping. 2:57:56.160 --> 2:57:56.360 Man. 2:57:57.040 --> 2:58:00.320 That's a hard I mean, that's not hard, like he 2:58:00.520 --> 2:58:05.119 is saying. First, I didn't care about rapping. I care 2:58:05.160 --> 2:58:08.080 about the music, So I don't care what you say. 2:58:08.920 --> 2:58:11.800 I mean, it's it's Pete producing like this dude is 2:58:11.840 --> 2:58:12.959 one of the greatest producers. 2:58:13.560 --> 2:58:18.680 Like, it ain't a top shot. Hey, we started we 2:58:18.800 --> 2:58:19.240 started off. 2:58:19.440 --> 2:58:23.360 We're not saying that likely, folks, We're not saying say that. 2:58:23.560 --> 2:58:25.640 And I was saying no, I was like, you know, 2:58:25.760 --> 2:58:27.280 not just the hip hop man. 2:58:27.360 --> 2:58:30.600 We gotta we gotta recognize what hip hop producers have 2:58:30.760 --> 2:58:34.199 done to music. Like we honor like and we should 2:58:34.280 --> 2:58:37.279 honor Jimmy Jame and Terry Lewis, we should honor. 2:58:37.720 --> 2:58:40.440 Like the like the Mally's White and people. 2:58:40.760 --> 2:58:45.000 But Pete Rockets is like for a genre, he created 2:58:45.080 --> 2:58:48.680 and helped elevate the whole genre and the music transcended 2:58:48.760 --> 2:58:49.200 beyond that. 2:58:49.879 --> 2:58:52.720 Other genres of a copy what hip hop producers doing 2:58:52.879 --> 2:58:53.400 point blak. 2:58:53.560 --> 2:58:56.960 Yeah, it's only I say it's really inspiration. Like I 2:58:57.080 --> 2:59:00.320 know copy is the word that people use, but saying 2:59:01.200 --> 2:59:06.200 it's really reinvented me inspiring people to just want to 2:59:06.280 --> 2:59:06.800 do the same thing. 2:59:06.840 --> 2:59:09.080 That's yeah, that's that's the humble. 2:59:09.760 --> 2:59:10.760 Yeah. 2:59:11.120 --> 2:59:11.360 Yeah. 2:59:12.520 --> 2:59:17.360 But his raps is cold but Yeah Heavy D or 2:59:17.480 --> 2:59:23.000 Chuck Rock heavy D. I love Chuck oh Man, heavy 2:59:23.080 --> 2:59:25.240 D Man for me, I mean, I ain't gonna lie. 2:59:25.360 --> 2:59:31.040 Part of it might be special ad to me with 2:59:31.120 --> 2:59:34.480 to M season did this intricate thing that I was like, 2:59:34.600 --> 2:59:38.840 oh she was cold but heavy D. After just learning Buddy, 2:59:39.200 --> 2:59:45.760 He's done, Heavy D met the man met the man 2:59:45.840 --> 2:59:46.519 of Buster. 2:59:51.760 --> 2:59:57.400 Man hell Coul Big Daddy came either well hello, he 2:59:57.640 --> 3:00:00.400 was like the was he did he come before bid? 3:00:01.040 --> 3:00:01.240 Yeah? 3:00:01.480 --> 3:00:02.959 Yeah, sixteen years old. 3:00:03.640 --> 3:00:07.400 So I was on to LL on his first album, 3:00:07.480 --> 3:00:12.040 Tha bet you know the whole first album, Can't Live 3:00:12.120 --> 3:00:16.760 Without My Radio all that, Like that was like the 3:00:16.879 --> 3:00:19.480 only hip hop I knew when I heard L cool J. 3:00:19.959 --> 3:00:24.560 Then they did the crush grooving movie Body Moving. 3:00:24.959 --> 3:00:28.760 You know what I'm saying. LLL was was was was 3:00:28.959 --> 3:00:31.440 in it. He was in it. And then I'm bad. 3:00:31.720 --> 3:00:35.720 Was like like, oh ship, well, yeah, I'm going with 3:00:35.959 --> 3:00:36.200 l L. 3:00:36.360 --> 3:00:37.200 Because l L. 3:00:38.320 --> 3:00:40.280 I ain't gonna lie. L L was one of them dudes. 3:00:40.360 --> 3:00:43.440 I was like, he did it on the on the 3:00:43.720 --> 3:00:45.600 lyrical side. If you listen to a lot of stuff 3:00:45.680 --> 3:00:48.120 to the breaking down I love and I breaking on 3:00:48.240 --> 3:00:50.680 breaking down, he'd be like, peepe rock this stuff in 3:00:50.760 --> 3:00:51.200 the studio. 3:00:51.280 --> 3:00:51.760 I love us. 3:00:52.200 --> 3:00:54.120 But but he but people. 3:00:54.360 --> 3:00:57.560 But l L was like he could do a lot 3:00:57.600 --> 3:00:59.800 of different stuff too, because Mama said, knock you out 3:01:00.640 --> 3:01:03.720 like one nine hundred not all my favorite. 3:01:04.080 --> 3:01:08.480 I don't put don't I don't go go go. That 3:01:08.600 --> 3:01:10.360 ship is cold and I tell you it is a 3:01:10.480 --> 3:01:11.360 big ce. 3:01:12.520 --> 3:01:15.160 Nomin nate L Man. 3:01:16.440 --> 3:01:19.959 I love and I love that snapping. 3:01:20.160 --> 3:01:23.240 Yeah, how young he started in his career to this 3:01:23.640 --> 3:01:25.440 now doing radio, Like it's. 3:01:25.360 --> 3:01:28.480 Crazy everything that he has a radio station. 3:01:28.560 --> 3:01:33.200 I'm gonna say, yeah, Cuba black Dog, Yeah, come on, 3:01:33.440 --> 3:01:34.560 come on, let's. 3:01:35.720 --> 3:01:44.920 Let's hear you black better m c in that situation back, okay, man, 3:01:45.000 --> 3:01:45.840 you need to stop. 3:01:49.080 --> 3:01:50.400 Or digital and. 3:01:52.640 --> 3:01:54.800 I'm going and a log all day. 3:01:56.000 --> 3:01:57.680 I just feel like you're going about to stay digital 3:01:57.800 --> 3:01:58.440 just to be different. 3:01:58.600 --> 3:01:58.640 No. 3:01:58.680 --> 3:02:01.480 I always said that a lot I couldn't even I 3:02:01.480 --> 3:02:04.600 couldn't transfer over to digital DJ digital. 3:02:05.600 --> 3:02:08.800 Gotta see yeah, go to the next one. I don't 3:02:08.840 --> 3:02:17.400 want to exit this one. To me, neither Menace, oh yeah, 3:02:17.440 --> 3:02:20.360 Mess Society or Juice. Oh that one will be good 3:02:22.240 --> 3:02:24.240 after that one. Because I was on the set of 3:02:24.400 --> 3:02:27.320 men really, I thought you would say Juice right now now. 3:02:27.480 --> 3:02:31.240 We watched the very last shooting scenes and then after 3:02:31.600 --> 3:02:38.480 they wrapped up, we partied at Universal Studios lel and 3:02:38.600 --> 3:02:40.959 all the actors and actresses that way in the movie. 3:02:41.879 --> 3:02:45.200 Yeh, So how did you get there? I don't see. 3:02:45.480 --> 3:02:48.119 I had the country are on the soundtrack. We did 3:02:48.160 --> 3:02:51.680 a song on the soundtrack that becomes You that you. 3:02:51.800 --> 3:02:54.960 Snap yeah yeah, And I wrote that myself, that ship 3:02:55.000 --> 3:02:56.039 you snapped on that ship. 3:02:56.320 --> 3:02:58.800 So yo, I'm going with minutes. I watched Minace. 3:02:59.240 --> 3:03:00.360 I'm gonna is right. 3:03:00.879 --> 3:03:03.280 I'm going I'm going minute too. 3:03:03.480 --> 3:03:09.400 Y'all know, y'all didn't like really ask me, but I'm 3:03:09.440 --> 3:03:13.120 going minute. I saw that ship like I ain't gonna lie. 3:03:13.440 --> 3:03:15.800 I saw that ship like like eight times at the 3:03:15.879 --> 3:03:18.480 movie theater, maybe nine. That's the one I liked the 3:03:18.600 --> 3:03:21.000 movie like that. I was going to see that ship 3:03:21.600 --> 3:03:24.080 going to see that ship. Minister Society was crazy. It 3:03:24.200 --> 3:03:27.440 was Juice was does Minister Society was on another lefl 3:03:27.520 --> 3:03:28.000 and I got a. 3:03:28.000 --> 3:03:30.920 Shout out in Juice Tank and I got the shout out. 3:03:31.080 --> 3:03:31.720 Nigga said my. 3:03:31.800 --> 3:03:34.119 Name in that in the DJ scene right, yeah, yes 3:03:34.600 --> 3:03:37.200 to me, it's Juice in that sense as a DJ, 3:03:38.240 --> 3:03:40.640 it was a big difference for me as a DJE, Like. 3:03:40.720 --> 3:03:42.520 I was like, oh, I want I should have said 3:03:42.920 --> 3:03:43.880 I should have said Juice. 3:03:43.920 --> 3:03:47.320 But both great movies. Take a shot for that, you 3:03:47.360 --> 3:03:50.240 know what I'm saying, Take a good shot. Man went 3:03:50.280 --> 3:03:51.120 to jail for Juice. 3:03:54.800 --> 3:03:57.480 They're all great movies, though, both of my name, you know, 3:03:57.640 --> 3:04:01.480 shout out to TV rapps mm hmm. 3:04:02.200 --> 3:04:02.720 Rap City. 3:04:03.720 --> 3:04:06.800 I'm going your own TV raps man, Like, my goal 3:04:06.959 --> 3:04:09.400 is to be on your own TV raps like their 3:04:09.520 --> 3:04:15.959 Lover and then and Doctor Dreda and then and then 3:04:16.080 --> 3:04:18.400 five five Freddy when they came to Chicago and d 3:04:18.560 --> 3:04:20.760 you on TV raps that she was like monument. 3:04:20.640 --> 3:04:23.600 I changed my answer. You can take a shot for it, Okay, 3:04:23.800 --> 3:04:24.840 you on TV raps. 3:04:24.800 --> 3:04:25.440 You don't TV rap. 3:04:25.680 --> 3:04:27.000 I remember remember when. 3:04:26.879 --> 3:04:27.760 He came to my house. 3:04:28.560 --> 3:04:35.120 So I'm and that's DJ. Yeah, there was no basement 3:04:35.920 --> 3:04:39.240 to my Fat Fire Freddy film. But your TV raps 3:04:39.400 --> 3:04:40.039 was growing. 3:04:40.200 --> 3:04:43.560 That was that everyone man, like I remember even they did, 3:04:43.760 --> 3:04:46.320 like I can remember from your own TV raps when 3:04:46.360 --> 3:04:49.000 people would say different Ada limbs. So your own tv 3:04:49.160 --> 3:04:54.640 raps that changed the hip hop be honest. Yeah before 3:04:54.680 --> 3:04:56.320 its rap city. Yeah, you were right about that. 3:04:56.640 --> 3:05:00.680 So let's go n PC three thousand or m PC 3:05:01.080 --> 3:05:04.880 two deaths. Excel Excel, Come on, man, excel. That's what 3:05:04.959 --> 3:05:06.360 I made this album with. 3:05:08.480 --> 3:05:17.400 Wo to the whole album with Common is the NPC 3:05:17.680 --> 3:05:18.800 two thousand excels. 3:05:19.280 --> 3:05:21.800 Wow. Okay, so the last question for quick time of 3:05:21.840 --> 3:05:29.760 Slim Nigga get to the regular interview. Yeah, lower you 3:05:30.600 --> 3:05:31.240 all respect? 3:05:32.240 --> 3:05:33.600 Oh what's on you with? 3:05:34.200 --> 3:05:37.000 Not everybody loyal? Not everybody's loyal. 3:05:36.840 --> 3:05:41.880 So says okay, wow, okay, Wow, I'll say respect. I'm 3:05:42.000 --> 3:05:44.440 definitely going respect man, but I'll be man. 3:05:45.080 --> 3:05:49.840 I'll be listening to this is pastor you know, this 3:05:50.000 --> 3:05:53.160 is pasting name Miles Monroe, and he like he was 3:05:53.160 --> 3:05:56.640 from the Bahamas, and he spoke a lot about spirituality 3:05:56.720 --> 3:05:59.560 and on a higher level, not just like but he 3:05:59.760 --> 3:06:02.960 was talking about the one thing that men we need 3:06:03.160 --> 3:06:07.280 naturally is respect from a woman like like respect for 3:06:07.400 --> 3:06:12.320 feraro from a woman in respect like more than a 3:06:12.400 --> 3:06:16.440 lot of other ship if a woman respect your your. 3:06:16.440 --> 3:06:19.040 Being and who you are and what you say, like 3:06:19.120 --> 3:06:20.520 and we we want that as people. 3:06:20.680 --> 3:06:26.120 Just respect like because you know, lord, everybody can fall 3:06:26.240 --> 3:06:29.720 off at some point, like you know, like because of 3:06:29.760 --> 3:06:30.760 their own it ship. 3:06:31.240 --> 3:06:34.400 But respect is like I might be going through some ship. 3:06:34.240 --> 3:06:36.800 But I'm gonna still give you respect that you deserve 3:06:37.480 --> 3:06:39.560 and and then I'm gonna have to go work on 3:06:39.680 --> 3:06:40.039 my ship. 3:06:40.520 --> 3:06:43.480 But you know, but that's why I say respect. 3:06:44.440 --> 3:06:48.959 Yeah, yeah, I said respect. 3:06:49.080 --> 3:06:54.360 I said respect because you know, as a human being 3:06:54.480 --> 3:06:59.160 and as a man, you know, it feels better to 3:06:59.240 --> 3:06:59.920 be respected. 3:07:00.320 --> 3:07:00.800 You feel me. 3:07:01.200 --> 3:07:05.120 Loyalty don't last. You ever been through that. I know 3:07:05.240 --> 3:07:05.800 you've been through that. 3:07:06.000 --> 3:07:09.880 Yeah, So I'm gonna run with respect because you know, 3:07:10.280 --> 3:07:12.840 there's loyal people and then there's not. 3:07:14.200 --> 3:07:17.640 Gotta always weigh the options. But don't you want both? Yeah? 3:07:17.879 --> 3:07:20.160 I wouldn't want both, but you can't happen in the 3:07:20.240 --> 3:07:21.960 quick time of slime. This is the thing that we 3:07:22.080 --> 3:07:22.600 find funny. 3:07:22.680 --> 3:07:24.960 Only time people say both or neither or whatever, But 3:07:25.040 --> 3:07:27.119 when it comes to live to respect, they never want 3:07:27.160 --> 3:07:27.600 to say. 3:07:27.440 --> 3:07:30.200 Both, I would say, I want to say you got 3:07:30.240 --> 3:07:34.840 your shot, relax. I mean both. 3:07:34.920 --> 3:07:38.640 It's good to have there too. Yes, But I always 3:07:38.680 --> 3:07:42.160 think of you know, I always weigh it out. 3:07:42.520 --> 3:07:49.280 We're what do we want? But what we want is both. 3:07:49.560 --> 3:07:51.720 But how the world works, it's different. 3:07:52.720 --> 3:07:57.440 But even to me, like, I feel like I can 3:07:57.600 --> 3:08:02.680 understand when sometimes when some people like don't ain't as loyal, 3:08:03.240 --> 3:08:05.000 like that ain't. 3:08:04.840 --> 3:08:07.520 The way I said. 3:08:07.520 --> 3:08:11.960 I can understand sometimes when people like just like not that. 3:08:12.080 --> 3:08:17.080 I'm like, I'm around a lot of unloyal people, but 3:08:17.200 --> 3:08:20.520 I'm just like everybody have faults. But respect is something 3:08:20.520 --> 3:08:23.840 that's like I can naturally give to any human being. 3:08:24.560 --> 3:08:27.920 A stranger. It's a stranger, and I get respect. 3:08:28.080 --> 3:08:31.480 Yeah, And I think to me, respect for me is 3:08:31.640 --> 3:08:34.400 like something that when you give it to a human being, 3:08:35.240 --> 3:08:39.840 it just make the world better. Loyalty sometimes it's an expectation. 3:08:40.000 --> 3:08:43.080 What if somebody ain't loyal to you and you like, okay, 3:08:43.320 --> 3:08:45.400 this first ain't loyal to you, Do you turn on them? 3:08:45.720 --> 3:08:49.120 Do you be like boom boom boom, that meaning you 3:08:49.160 --> 3:08:51.960 don't have to. So I'm saying like, loyalty is something 3:08:52.000 --> 3:08:55.320 that you expected from that person. But respect is something 3:08:55.360 --> 3:08:59.800 that you're demanded from another person that you like, Okay, yo, 3:09:00.040 --> 3:09:01.760 this is what I just want as a human being, 3:09:02.040 --> 3:09:05.039 And it's like taking. I mean, you could want loyalty 3:09:05.120 --> 3:09:08.000 as a human being too and say like I deserve this, 3:09:08.600 --> 3:09:11.800 but I understand. For me, I understand when certain people 3:09:12.200 --> 3:09:14.760 don't have the loyalty at certain times. 3:09:16.120 --> 3:09:18.480 And and you know, it's just my thought. That's just 3:09:18.560 --> 3:09:20.160 the things that I've experienced. 3:09:20.720 --> 3:09:23.200 I don't and I think I think I gotta take it. 3:09:24.800 --> 3:09:26.560 I don't. I wanted both. 3:09:27.080 --> 3:09:30.120 Maybe I'm like naive, maybe I'm stupid, Like you know 3:09:30.120 --> 3:09:32.760 what I'm saying, Like I actually demand both because I 3:09:32.879 --> 3:09:33.600 present both. 3:09:34.720 --> 3:09:36.320 It's the right thing to do, you know what I'm 3:09:36.320 --> 3:09:41.240 saying both, like like let me move on. Okay, no, 3:09:41.400 --> 3:09:43.600 but no, but I like that. I like what you're saying, 3:09:43.840 --> 3:09:46.879 and that's why we should demand that from I like that. 3:09:46.840 --> 3:09:51.640 Should be stand there both like we're kings. We're doing 3:09:51.879 --> 3:09:56.160 some fucking phenomenal ship. We we're helping other people, whether 3:09:56.240 --> 3:10:00.880 they know it or not or And DMX sat in 3:10:01.000 --> 3:10:03.160 that same seat and d MX said, he never this 3:10:03.400 --> 3:10:07.039 is a rack rack rapper anymore, because that one rack 3:10:07.200 --> 3:10:10.480 rapper is feeding sixteen families. And when he said that, 3:10:10.560 --> 3:10:12.760 I was like, holy shit, I don't want to this 3:10:12.959 --> 3:10:16.320 nobody no more like I want to like help but 3:10:17.080 --> 3:10:20.879 also demand a little bit demand. 3:10:20.680 --> 3:10:26.320 Like ain't all phenomenal? Ye, ain't none a phenomenal? And 3:10:26.440 --> 3:10:30.640 I just the man some phenomenal. Yeah, you should be 3:10:30.720 --> 3:10:30.960 in it. 3:10:31.400 --> 3:10:35.040 And for me just just it's all simple little things 3:10:35.080 --> 3:10:38.720 I'm asking for. It's just be loyal to me. Would 3:10:38.760 --> 3:10:41.760 be loyal to you much and expect me and I'm 3:10:41.800 --> 3:10:46.160 gonna respect you. I would love folk simple. It's actually 3:10:46.240 --> 3:10:46.800 not even one. 3:10:47.959 --> 3:10:48.720 I would love both. 3:10:49.040 --> 3:10:49.640 I love both. 3:10:49.760 --> 3:10:53.000 It's not it's not, but I'm it can't be reality. 3:10:53.160 --> 3:10:55.600 Like I feel like where we're at right now, we 3:10:55.720 --> 3:10:58.080 are like it's a lot of loyal see and respect. 3:10:58.600 --> 3:11:02.440 It's both both, like we like even in every element, 3:11:02.520 --> 3:11:05.360 I feel the loyalty in respect, But I also get 3:11:05.480 --> 3:11:08.360 room for somebody that like, they might not feel as 3:11:08.440 --> 3:11:11.240 loyal because sometimes people have been through certain ship and 3:11:11.320 --> 3:11:14.320 they might not have trust and they just got trust 3:11:14.360 --> 3:11:16.480 issues and they like, I can't be loyal to you 3:11:16.800 --> 3:11:19.840 until you show them certain things. So like for me, 3:11:20.000 --> 3:11:22.240 loyalty is one of them things where It's like I 3:11:22.400 --> 3:11:25.720 understand you might. Man, we all been through some shit, 3:11:26.040 --> 3:11:28.600 so a person could be like, man, I don't I 3:11:28.640 --> 3:11:31.400 don't trust that person, so they loyalty might not be there. 3:11:31.879 --> 3:11:35.160 But to respect the person, it's just like I don't 3:11:35.160 --> 3:11:35.960 got to know you or not. 3:11:36.959 --> 3:11:38.039 Yo, this is p Rock. 3:11:39.200 --> 3:11:42.640 I respect him for who he is as a as 3:11:42.680 --> 3:11:46.240 a as a producer, as an artist, super legend, legend, 3:11:46.680 --> 3:11:48.800 but then as a human being, just as a man. 3:11:49.280 --> 3:11:51.760 And that don't take a lot. You ain't gotta have 3:11:52.040 --> 3:11:54.279 no type of interaction to respect somebody. 3:11:54.560 --> 3:11:56.800 And that's for me. But I don't know that's how 3:11:56.840 --> 3:11:58.640 I feel about it, but I would like both. 3:12:00.000 --> 3:12:02.160 So let me ask you Pete an album. 3:12:03.400 --> 3:12:06.760 Before we started the interview, you know, my boy Chris Atlas, yeah, 3:12:07.080 --> 3:12:10.200 asked me, you know, to make sure we were careful 3:12:10.240 --> 3:12:10.920 with this subject. 3:12:11.000 --> 3:12:16.000 Yea, And I want to be careful with but because 3:12:16.040 --> 3:12:21.000 I know not ask whatever you want, because you know, we're. 3:12:20.879 --> 3:12:23.760 Doing a lot of albums and we don't see you 3:12:23.840 --> 3:12:27.240 and see us smooth. Yeah, if if we would take 3:12:27.280 --> 3:12:29.320 this out the interview, if you want, no, no, that's 3:12:29.320 --> 3:12:32.000 all good, not good. I just you know, because I 3:12:32.120 --> 3:12:34.000 got to be kind of like a little bit media 3:12:34.120 --> 3:12:36.800 and like just asks like, I'm gonna tell you that's 3:12:36.800 --> 3:12:39.160 not negative if no, no, no, not negative at all. 3:12:39.200 --> 3:12:42.600 I'm gonna say that he's the best talent I've ever 3:12:42.720 --> 3:12:43.959 came across in my whole. 3:12:43.840 --> 3:12:45.039 You guys created magic. Man. 3:12:45.520 --> 3:12:47.600 I mean, I've never heard a guy rap like this. 3:12:47.920 --> 3:12:50.920 I never heard a voice like this. And even we 3:12:51.080 --> 3:12:53.800 shared great times together, don't get it all fucked up now, 3:12:54.000 --> 3:12:57.840 Like we've had our good times, you know what, And 3:12:57.959 --> 3:13:03.400 then you know, just like life, people have ups and 3:13:03.560 --> 3:13:09.279 sometimes sometimes you know, when we were in the negative zone, 3:13:10.360 --> 3:13:13.240 we tend to go like this, you know what I'm saying. 3:13:13.360 --> 3:13:17.200 And then what we would wish for each other is growth. 3:13:17.640 --> 3:13:20.040 But when one is growing and one isn't, then then 3:13:20.120 --> 3:13:24.400 it's just still uneven. Even now, it's just like, come on, man, 3:13:25.080 --> 3:13:27.120 you know what I'm saying. It doesn't it shouldn't never 3:13:27.280 --> 3:13:31.120 be like this ever. We should still be together, you know. 3:13:31.120 --> 3:13:31.560 What I'm saying. 3:13:31.680 --> 3:13:36.160 But some things you know that I can't really tell 3:13:36.280 --> 3:13:37.040 the whole public. 3:13:37.760 --> 3:13:40.880 But but but you know, certain things happen and in 3:13:41.360 --> 3:13:45.240 in a in a partnership, that's that just can't be 3:13:46.040 --> 3:13:49.440 you know, And and people don't won't understand. You know, 3:13:49.800 --> 3:13:51.720 I don't want to be the only one speaking on 3:13:51.879 --> 3:13:53.480 someone who's not here. 3:13:53.920 --> 3:13:56.400 You see what I'm saying. But I wish him the 3:13:56.480 --> 3:13:58.560 best in life. I respect that. 3:13:58.760 --> 3:13:59.920 Just so you know, I. 3:14:01.920 --> 3:14:04.959 Don't know if you even know if man, but people 3:14:05.160 --> 3:14:08.600 think that we're blocking people think what. 3:14:09.200 --> 3:14:13.400 Yeah, yeah, I know you know this rumor. The rumor is, 3:14:14.240 --> 3:14:15.080 I don't know if you know that. 3:14:15.200 --> 3:14:16.640 And it's not just him, it's a lot of people 3:14:16.680 --> 3:14:19.360 that people think you were saying that. 3:14:19.680 --> 3:14:24.840 He can't come on drink chats. Why I wouldn't you 3:14:24.959 --> 3:14:28.040 know what's funny about this? Did you hear this room? 3:14:29.000 --> 3:14:33.200 I didn't hear. He needs to be Yes, Yes, we 3:14:33.280 --> 3:14:33.879 would love to. 3:14:33.920 --> 3:14:36.840 Have him talk to talk about his life and what 3:14:37.480 --> 3:14:41.360 our relationship was. And you know, because I don't wish 3:14:41.480 --> 3:14:43.640 no bad on him, you know what I'm saying. But 3:14:44.080 --> 3:14:48.000 I just I just know that our personalities don't mix, 3:14:48.320 --> 3:14:51.680 you know, And I've experienced. 3:14:51.200 --> 3:14:56.160 Some growth with myself. I'm on another plateau and that's it. 3:14:56.440 --> 3:15:00.640 And you both deserve to be celebrating this. Records that 3:15:00.720 --> 3:15:01.360 you guys call. 3:15:01.720 --> 3:15:04.480 Timeless Classics, that are probably one of the best hip 3:15:04.520 --> 3:15:05.640 hop records ever made. 3:15:05.920 --> 3:15:08.520 You know how many years passed by that. This is 3:15:08.560 --> 3:15:10.879 what hurts me the most is that we don't celebrate 3:15:10.959 --> 3:15:16.360 our anniversaries for the records that we made that touched people. 3:15:16.920 --> 3:15:19.600 You know what I'm saying, timeless records that That's why 3:15:19.879 --> 3:15:23.560 I wish for healing for him. You see what I'm saying, 3:15:24.000 --> 3:15:28.520 so we can at least have grown men conversations, you know. 3:15:28.560 --> 3:15:28.840 What I mean. 3:15:30.440 --> 3:15:32.040 And the reason why I ask that, Let me just 3:15:32.480 --> 3:15:35.320 ask that. No, I'm glad you asked, very sensitive. Yeah, 3:15:35.840 --> 3:15:38.920 but let me just tell you something and me a poem. 3:15:39.520 --> 3:15:43.400 We actually do speed, but we don't celebrate our anniversaries neither. 3:15:43.480 --> 3:15:43.959 And it's just. 3:15:47.200 --> 3:15:47.400 Or me. 3:15:47.520 --> 3:15:51.640 It might look like it's me, you know, people gonna 3:15:51.720 --> 3:15:55.200 say it's you, people gonna say it's him, you know, 3:15:56.160 --> 3:15:58.760 but they really just in a place where they don't 3:15:58.920 --> 3:16:01.560 know what's going on. Yes, And that's why I just 3:16:01.680 --> 3:16:05.080 let it be and I don't say nothing. And when 3:16:05.120 --> 3:16:08.199 you ask me, I'm gonna tell you the real Yeah. 3:16:08.120 --> 3:16:14.080 Because I suffer from the same thing like I like, 3:16:14.760 --> 3:16:17.520 I think the twenty fifth anniversary of the War Report 3:16:18.040 --> 3:16:20.360 and Me and components should have been celebrated, should have 3:16:20.400 --> 3:16:26.880 been celebrated to celebrated. I don't remember what it exactly 3:16:27.080 --> 3:16:31.480 was for my thing, but so for every group, Like 3:16:31.560 --> 3:16:33.400 you know what I mean, Like I understand, like I 3:16:34.040 --> 3:16:37.920 understand your play. Like sometimes it's growth, it's growth. 3:16:38.040 --> 3:16:40.880 You know what I'm saying. Like that's the number one thing. 3:16:41.600 --> 3:16:44.000 That's the one thing we kind of I mean, we 3:16:44.120 --> 3:16:46.640 were young. We were so young when we were like 3:16:46.760 --> 3:16:48.840 putting out reckets. Think about when you put out to 3:16:48.879 --> 3:16:51.000 your first record, when you put out your first record, 3:16:51.080 --> 3:16:53.920 how old you are when you first DJ Like how 3:16:53.959 --> 3:16:57.680 old we were so like to grow up, Like we 3:16:58.000 --> 3:17:00.920 understand life in different ways. And like I look at 3:17:00.959 --> 3:17:03.240 my mother. It's people that she grew up with. The 3:17:03.440 --> 3:17:07.480 some she connected with still their lifetime friends and some 3:17:07.720 --> 3:17:11.920 are not. And but it's still y'all still shared some 3:17:12.320 --> 3:17:15.560 important moments together that you got to honor and respect. 3:17:17.000 --> 3:17:18.320 And I love that y'all doing that. 3:17:19.640 --> 3:17:24.840 I love I loved me and Paul excuse me, we're 3:17:25.120 --> 3:17:28.320 working off other than the business ship. 3:17:28.520 --> 3:17:30.760 Yeah, I like that more, you know what I'm saying. 3:17:30.920 --> 3:17:33.560 But let me ask you something. One of the other 3:17:33.800 --> 3:17:41.320 most biggest arguments on Drink Chaps was when we sat Kanye. 3:17:41.680 --> 3:17:46.800 I know, man, we're on the same vibe you keep saying. 3:17:46.840 --> 3:17:49.120 I keep saying, you said, I knew you were about 3:17:49.160 --> 3:17:52.400 to say something. And the democratic ship that he was. 3:17:52.480 --> 3:17:58.560 Talking about, I said, I said, comn Collin Bali and 3:17:59.480 --> 3:18:04.400 Yay said, it's so fast and he did you see 3:18:04.400 --> 3:18:05.480 how he reacted? 3:18:06.360 --> 3:18:08.800 And boy, when I tell you, I know, we got 3:18:08.920 --> 3:18:14.520 to talk about it. The backpack. Backpack community was so mad, 3:18:15.720 --> 3:18:20.560 mucking paring y'all because they knew that they was gonna 3:18:20.560 --> 3:18:21.480 make either. 3:18:25.360 --> 3:18:25.520 Do not. 3:18:25.680 --> 3:18:28.959 But they're very respectful backpack. They're not. 3:18:30.760 --> 3:18:42.640 Community right there, you making on the backpack. I get 3:18:42.840 --> 3:18:46.279 I get it, but it's not a realm. The underground. 3:18:46.360 --> 3:18:52.160 Maybe independent, maybe I give you that vary conscious maybe 3:18:52.200 --> 3:18:53.520 like you can put it in all together. 3:18:54.320 --> 3:18:57.320 You're going all types of name When when you heard. 3:18:57.240 --> 3:19:00.720 That, well, people hit me. It was like just first 3:19:00.760 --> 3:19:03.480 of all, that interview. Obviously y'all did work with that 3:19:03.640 --> 3:19:05.480 interview because that ship got everywhere. 3:19:05.600 --> 3:19:09.520 Got Yeah, the first interview, that's the problem. The first one, yeah, 3:19:09.520 --> 3:19:11.720 that's amazing, the second one, that's. 3:19:11.600 --> 3:19:16.280 Amazing about that too. I'm talking about the person. The 3:19:16.360 --> 3:19:18.000 first was great. 3:19:18.320 --> 3:19:21.520 One was great, and people hit me and was like, yo, 3:19:22.320 --> 3:19:26.000 you know they compare you and to live, and I 3:19:26.120 --> 3:19:31.880 was like, you know, I just was like, yo, hey, 3:19:31.920 --> 3:19:35.320 I ain't gonna lie. I mean, I love they said 3:19:35.360 --> 3:19:38.080 what he said. I I live my guy and he 3:19:38.760 --> 3:19:42.080 dope a dope rackords dope. M see as simple as that. 3:19:42.400 --> 3:19:45.200 But I man, you know, to hear from somebody being 3:19:45.280 --> 3:19:48.520 like yo, no, no, no no. But you know, I 3:19:48.600 --> 3:19:53.400 got also respected that that Qui put y Choir had 3:19:53.520 --> 3:19:57.040 yay on the on the tour when me and gangst 3:19:57.080 --> 3:19:57.760 I was on so. 3:19:58.200 --> 3:20:00.800 But but I told him in that I told him 3:20:00.840 --> 3:20:02.800 this is the scene that puts you on. 3:20:03.560 --> 3:20:06.440 But he gave his true opinion. So I like when 3:20:06.480 --> 3:20:10.560 people get a true artistic opinion. I don't take that personal, 3:20:10.959 --> 3:20:13.120 like when people come up to me. People come up 3:20:13.160 --> 3:20:15.600 to me and be like, yo, I like you as actor, 3:20:15.600 --> 3:20:17.560 I don't like your raps like that blah blah blah 3:20:17.920 --> 3:20:21.000 like and I ain't mad. I ain't mad because Yo, 3:20:21.440 --> 3:20:23.520 this is art. You ain't got to like if I 3:20:23.600 --> 3:20:25.520 put it. If I if I cook up some food 3:20:25.560 --> 3:20:28.120 for you and you don't like the food, that I 3:20:28.160 --> 3:20:31.600 can subjective subjective, man, I can't force that on you. 3:20:31.760 --> 3:20:34.640 Not so so anyway, when when I wouldn't. 3:20:35.720 --> 3:20:36.560 You know, I love it. 3:20:36.720 --> 3:20:39.080 Yeah, spoke his mind. Obviously, y'all had him in the 3:20:39.160 --> 3:20:40.440 right place to speak his mind. 3:20:40.520 --> 3:20:43.200 Yeah, right here, right here. 3:20:44.080 --> 3:20:46.680 But I ain't gonna lie. 3:20:46.800 --> 3:20:49.520 Sometimes I'd be like, I want to be compared to 3:20:52.680 --> 3:20:55.920 to some of some other mcs beyond the conscious ms. 3:20:56.360 --> 3:20:59.920 I know y'all probably think of me a common backpack consciously, 3:21:01.080 --> 3:21:04.760 but I want to be compared to. I want to 3:21:04.840 --> 3:21:07.640 be compared, but I'm working on it. I'm working on 3:21:07.800 --> 3:21:11.199 my craft to be compared with you. Like, oh ship, 3:21:11.280 --> 3:21:13.400 I heard this comedy pet rock album. We got to 3:21:13.400 --> 3:21:17.080 put him in another in another status fere like you know, 3:21:17.240 --> 3:21:20.920 like meaning yo, I can understand why I got classified 3:21:21.040 --> 3:21:24.400 with with with with just backpack, but I feel like 3:21:25.000 --> 3:21:28.240 even from what I've what I've delivered as an artist 3:21:28.720 --> 3:21:32.080 is different than just just backpack because the bitch and 3:21:32.120 --> 3:21:35.400 you ain't backpacked for niggas or or if I talk 3:21:35.480 --> 3:21:38.440 about just I be talking about fucking bras and certain 3:21:38.480 --> 3:21:39.280 stuff and I. 3:21:39.320 --> 3:21:46.640 Said club, but that ain't backpacked. 3:21:46.680 --> 3:21:51.120 But I feel like even even for choir, for most step, 3:21:51.240 --> 3:21:54.200 for any of my family than my family for any 3:21:54.240 --> 3:21:56.160 of them, like we get we can put in the 3:21:56.280 --> 3:21:58.200 box and it's like, oh, this is what this is 3:21:58.280 --> 3:22:01.240 all they do. But it's like I always was like, yo, 3:22:01.360 --> 3:22:03.400 I got more than that, y'all niggas. 3:22:03.520 --> 3:22:05.480 But you felt you were backpack. Sorry could but you 3:22:05.640 --> 3:22:07.680 felt that you was glumped into the backpack. 3:22:07.879 --> 3:22:11.440 Oh for sure, bro, Because the thing is that that term, 3:22:11.600 --> 3:22:12.119 that term. 3:22:12.040 --> 3:22:15.760 Came up with the rugous era Ruus Ruckers Ruckus brought 3:22:15.800 --> 3:22:18.039 in that that that backpack terminal. 3:22:17.800 --> 3:22:22.640 Nor backpack that I feel like even this this even 3:22:22.680 --> 3:22:24.599 though you've say some hardcore. 3:22:24.280 --> 3:22:24.879 Ship on there. 3:22:25.000 --> 3:22:27.280 Yeah yeah, but but but I'm saying you had to 3:22:27.360 --> 3:22:28.000 really listen. 3:22:28.400 --> 3:22:32.120 I wasn't reaching some cats that was really understanding like okay, nigga, 3:22:32.160 --> 3:22:33.040 he's just a backpack. 3:22:33.360 --> 3:22:35.680 So well, let me let me ask you. I'm sorry 3:22:35.680 --> 3:22:42.240 to cut a backpack underground to sit it backpack back then, yeah, 3:22:43.000 --> 3:22:45.000 I feel I feel like that. I feel like even 3:22:45.240 --> 3:22:50.120 I feel like if you actually back it was a movement. 3:22:50.360 --> 3:22:51.800 Use small backpack. 3:22:52.680 --> 3:23:00.879 Come on, your backpack was a little and really because 3:23:01.040 --> 3:23:02.280 because you could be underground. 3:23:02.920 --> 3:23:08.119 M o P was underground because you know, I took 3:23:08.160 --> 3:23:11.800 offensive the backpack terminology. Remember a bunk, shorty, because they 3:23:11.800 --> 3:23:15.400 were it was a silent it was it wasn't a sound. Yeah, 3:23:15.400 --> 3:23:16.080 it wasn't a sound. 3:23:16.160 --> 3:23:18.000 It wasn't It wasn't even like a nerse. 3:23:19.240 --> 3:23:21.320 It wasn't a sound everything, but it wasn't a sound. 3:23:21.640 --> 3:23:23.920 It wasn't a sound though. Yeah, but it wasn't a sound. 3:23:24.000 --> 3:23:26.680 But think about this, like at one point it became 3:23:26.840 --> 3:23:30.040 like all these backpack rappers and that was just like 3:23:30.320 --> 3:23:33.360 and the category that that who fell under that was 3:23:33.879 --> 3:23:37.400 most death to live quality common like. 3:23:38.080 --> 3:23:39.920 You start doing records, doing rockets. 3:23:40.240 --> 3:23:44.000 But but but I'm saying though, the point I'm making 3:23:44.160 --> 3:23:46.119 is it was like, man, it's separated ship. 3:23:46.520 --> 3:23:47.879 And honestly, the. 3:23:49.760 --> 3:23:52.720 One person I saw that brought it together was Kanye. 3:23:53.120 --> 3:23:55.000 I remember going to s o BS and seeing that 3:23:55.120 --> 3:23:59.280 Nigga performed and he and I saw niggas were backpacked 3:23:59.320 --> 3:24:01.400 throwing up the fella they had. 3:24:01.800 --> 3:24:06.240 I was like, he changed, he changed the idea, change 3:24:06.240 --> 3:24:06.800 the definition. 3:24:07.000 --> 3:24:09.400 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah for sure. 3:24:09.720 --> 3:24:09.920 Yeah. 3:24:10.080 --> 3:24:13.440 But but the underground wasn't the same as black pack. 3:24:13.600 --> 3:24:17.279 The underground went the same as backpack because under because because. 3:24:17.240 --> 3:24:19.640 M P was under Man when he first came out, 3:24:19.720 --> 3:24:21.720 was all talking about underground. I'm the underground. 3:24:22.800 --> 3:24:26.359 Underground was more dirt like grime and slide. 3:24:26.680 --> 3:24:31.760 But most considered hip hop was underground, more underground, Backpack 3:24:31.920 --> 3:24:35.680 was more but but but but Shorty and the War 3:24:35.800 --> 3:24:38.400 of the Backpack. 3:24:38.840 --> 3:24:40.760 They were but if you think about it in terms 3:24:40.760 --> 3:24:43.959 of hip hop, they were top tier when they came out. 3:24:44.240 --> 3:24:47.280 Yeah, but they weren't known even though they wore a backpack, 3:24:47.400 --> 3:24:49.800 they weren't known as backpack right, Like you know, like 3:24:50.160 --> 3:24:52.920 backpack started feeling like a certain thing where it was 3:24:53.000 --> 3:24:54.840 like people trying to say nerdy rap. 3:24:55.560 --> 3:24:55.760 It was. 3:24:55.840 --> 3:24:58.280 It was nerdy conscious conscious. 3:24:58.560 --> 3:25:02.560 I was conscious more than conscious, conscious, like and like 3:25:04.240 --> 3:25:09.960 we are part of this almost like everybody. It was crazy. 3:25:10.000 --> 3:25:12.960 And some of the niggas was never vegans. And some 3:25:13.040 --> 3:25:14.480 of the niggas you know, like. 3:25:17.920 --> 3:25:20.280 Some of the niggas like like like we always like 3:25:20.640 --> 3:25:22.320 we all had our niggas ship about us. 3:25:22.520 --> 3:25:24.760 Some niggas. Some niggas have a bunch of kids. 3:25:25.120 --> 3:25:28.039 Some niggas smacking niggas when you say something. 3:25:29.080 --> 3:25:31.920 Somebody conscious rape the most gigs up because I ever 3:25:32.000 --> 3:25:32.600 met in my life. 3:25:33.040 --> 3:25:35.400 So you're telling me some of the conscious rappers work, 3:25:40.440 --> 3:25:44.640 most did most didn't know. We got off that point. 3:25:44.800 --> 3:25:49.039 Don't press, like, don't don't think they come on press. 3:25:49.200 --> 3:25:54.200 Realig bro bacon and all that. But yo, I only stopped. 3:25:54.360 --> 3:25:57.320 I only stopped in Port because of hip hop. That's 3:25:57.320 --> 3:26:00.640 what's crazy. That's why I say, because care Rest not 3:26:00.800 --> 3:26:03.440 beating beef kind because you remember he had a song 3:26:03.520 --> 3:26:04.039 called Beef. 3:26:04.720 --> 3:26:07.160 He had a song called he again because it was 3:26:08.879 --> 3:26:10.960 That's why I say camera and just how I was 3:26:11.000 --> 3:26:12.879 fourteen years You had a lot of boy on local 3:26:13.000 --> 3:26:17.879 arrest is up there for me? Beef? What hey? 3:26:17.959 --> 3:26:21.840 Man? And he told us the story. Don't don't go 3:26:22.840 --> 3:26:25.920 you make some stories, sonny. What do you mean, sonny? 3:26:26.520 --> 3:26:28.680 He told me a story. You went to the pizza 3:26:28.879 --> 3:26:29.680 here and you just. 3:26:29.680 --> 3:26:40.560 Playing rise up, telling up quick. It was not. It 3:26:40.680 --> 3:26:40.880 was not. 3:26:44.400 --> 3:26:49.000 He also told the story of Rod the Trimp. Sorry 3:26:49.720 --> 3:26:53.119 we got can we connected to this? I said, hey, 3:26:53.160 --> 3:26:54.400 we want to play a joint for ya. 3:26:54.959 --> 3:26:59.640 Please go come on, Let's play a fucking joint. Come on, 3:27:00.080 --> 3:27:01.560 listen to a radio station. Let's go. 3:27:01.680 --> 3:27:04.400 We're playing hip hop. Let's go, yeah, yeah, hip hop? 3:27:05.000 --> 3:27:13.480 Man joined wise wise up, okay, sight back that way, 3:27:14.080 --> 3:27:15.640 but you can get peak. 3:27:15.720 --> 3:27:17.640 It's man pete okay, whole ilm me and. 3:27:17.720 --> 3:27:25.520 P see like, yeah, I ain't got it together. They 3:27:25.600 --> 3:27:28.120 got to connect the OX to the other ox to 3:27:28.240 --> 3:27:32.560 the Oh my god, you're not looking good at all, man. 3:27:33.080 --> 3:27:35.720 That's all you did quick Thomas Slim. Yeah that was 3:27:35.840 --> 3:27:38.840 almost good at quick Thomas Slim. But yeah, still time 3:27:38.879 --> 3:27:40.880 and everything else, you're good. 3:27:43.879 --> 3:27:45.800 What he ate bore? 3:27:46.440 --> 3:27:55.200 You said you a happy poor for fifty years, like 3:27:55.360 --> 3:27:56.040 sixteen years. 3:27:56.120 --> 3:27:59.480 You said, that's why it's skin Yo. Hey, this ship 3:27:59.560 --> 3:28:01.080 effect the way we fucking look. 3:28:02.600 --> 3:28:05.760 You know you know that ship. That's why you're here. 3:28:07.080 --> 3:28:09.600 I haven't eaten that shit in over fifteen years. Just 3:28:09.680 --> 3:28:13.080 once in the blue. No, no, no, my wife is 3:28:13.160 --> 3:28:14.920 knowing me. You people. 3:28:15.040 --> 3:28:16.760 Yeah, my family used to get mad at I'd be like, 3:28:16.800 --> 3:28:17.400 I ain't eating this. 3:28:17.480 --> 3:28:23.400 And Thanksgiving what you're doing? But cool? You know, By 3:28:23.440 --> 3:28:28.480 the way, your girl is very nice, man. I like 3:28:28.600 --> 3:28:33.360 her and she has no idea. She's a part of 3:28:33.480 --> 3:28:37.359 one of my favorite movies are All Time Sandy Rexler. 3:28:38.080 --> 3:28:42.040 Well you like that. I love that movie. I can 3:28:42.120 --> 3:28:43.199 tell you anything about. 3:28:43.600 --> 3:28:44.040 You like that. 3:28:44.520 --> 3:28:46.200 I was gonna say it yesterday, but I was like 3:28:46.800 --> 3:28:49.760 she would be like, what you should have said it 3:28:49.879 --> 3:28:50.120 to her? 3:28:50.720 --> 3:28:54.640 Because because because I feel like, what's my man name, 3:28:55.400 --> 3:28:58.200 Adam saying what I'm saying, like Ada'm saying here my 3:28:58.360 --> 3:29:01.000 joke because I'm like you, it's like Jesus and a 3:29:01.080 --> 3:29:02.440 bird together to have a baby. 3:29:02.720 --> 3:29:05.240 And then and he said he said that, and. 3:29:07.360 --> 3:29:09.640 Like, you know, you should have said that. She would 3:29:09.680 --> 3:29:12.879 have been like, you know you said that because. 3:29:12.640 --> 3:29:15.240 She was so cool, and and I just I just was, 3:29:15.360 --> 3:29:18.200 you know comment. We've been really wanted to have you 3:29:18.280 --> 3:29:20.480 here for a long time. People thought we was hating 3:29:20.520 --> 3:29:23.039 on you coming, thought that we were like not. 3:29:23.120 --> 3:29:26.440 Having you on, Like I thought you'all thought, yo, but no, 3:29:26.600 --> 3:29:29.120 you gotta ad miss Fat Joe's show. 3:29:29.480 --> 3:29:32.440 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah I remember that. 3:29:33.040 --> 3:29:35.640 So when you didn't come on the show, people were 3:29:35.760 --> 3:29:39.680 like they thought it was us blocking you not coming 3:29:39.760 --> 3:29:40.160 on the show. 3:29:40.800 --> 3:29:43.920 Was even mad hating all your fans. We've been wanting 3:29:44.000 --> 3:29:49.200 for years. I'm so grateful one you was already an 3:29:49.280 --> 3:29:50.119 honorary yes. 3:29:51.160 --> 3:29:53.760 The fact because no, he probably I was gonna be 3:29:53.840 --> 3:29:55.840 a stiff, and he was like you're gonna drink. I'm like, 3:29:56.160 --> 3:30:03.080 you know, I was like, no, We're like, what is it? 3:30:03.160 --> 3:30:12.760 I heard the Prince reg say, what's that? I'll tell 3:30:12.760 --> 3:30:17.040 you I heard the show. This is crazy. Let's go okay, 3:30:17.080 --> 3:30:28.000 I Gray then thank you so all the people that 3:30:28.120 --> 3:30:28.560 are playing. 3:30:28.600 --> 3:30:31.600 So people. 3:30:38.920 --> 3:30:44.680 Three wiles men came visit wi this outside my head 3:30:47.360 --> 3:30:52.320 the third game of the rea simile lea, the simile league. 3:30:52.160 --> 3:30:57.960 Said, announces his heart come from niggas guy adopted. 3:30:58.560 --> 3:31:01.640 They can't come, would talk hill I. 3:31:01.720 --> 3:31:04.200 Saw fell and then the line. I think the sun 3:31:04.360 --> 3:31:06.680 that kind of a wide up the race like a 3:31:06.800 --> 3:31:09.040 PRIs ra or even the middle. 3:31:09.400 --> 3:31:12.120 Start on the stats and say, don't get where me. 3:31:12.280 --> 3:31:13.480 All body gets to the. 3:31:13.520 --> 3:31:16.920 Day wis it's this order to be spases as the 3:31:17.000 --> 3:31:19.200 pens the lord, I said, Wenna, listen to me more. 3:31:19.240 --> 3:31:27.680 I said, for them tell him tip shot flight up. 3:31:27.760 --> 3:31:30.400 So people to whine up. 3:31:30.480 --> 3:31:46.280 Show people know you the crown and kill us do 3:31:46.520 --> 3:31:49.600 because us drug dealers fox with cheas. We don't revers say, I. 3:31:49.760 --> 3:31:54.400 Don't tell so no diner killers trying to get say 3:31:54.440 --> 3:31:59.120 eighteen so they will a youngs rest investing. That's man, 3:32:00.200 --> 3:32:01.920 you know that it's this whole. 3:32:02.920 --> 3:32:06.599 Face I mean, says. 3:32:06.240 --> 3:32:13.320 Sold who is bead wing crop field shoes and tears said. 3:32:15.360 --> 3:32:19.240 Some it's booms in here who bear so. 3:32:20.120 --> 3:32:23.040 Bs like a diaboa. That ever you hear about the 3:32:23.080 --> 3:32:25.280 whole and based, but. 3:32:25.360 --> 3:32:28.199 It's not to it's about like angels when the build 3:32:28.240 --> 3:32:29.000 amount of shoes. 3:32:34.480 --> 3:32:37.320 You know, you. 3:32:39.280 --> 3:32:42.800 People let up brass, you. 3:32:43.720 --> 3:32:50.480 Shot up, show people, supers, show people. 3:32:50.560 --> 3:32:51.759 Let the basis. 3:33:11.320 --> 3:33:35.880 So you'm saying sounds so hard, you know, why is 3:33:35.920 --> 3:33:39.360 it so dope? It's exactly how you described it. It's 3:33:39.440 --> 3:33:43.440 the nineties energy, yes, right, but it's right now, yeah, right, 3:33:43.720 --> 3:33:46.160 fucking we adult, We adult, man. 3:33:46.280 --> 3:33:46.480 Man. 3:33:46.600 --> 3:33:50.480 We were like, we've experienced certain things and we ain't 3:33:50.520 --> 3:33:54.720 trying to be like, yo, we're nineteen, right, and but 3:33:54.879 --> 3:33:57.840 the spirit of what we experienced and what we created young, 3:33:58.480 --> 3:33:59.720 it's always in us. 3:34:00.240 --> 3:34:03.360 And like that music is there. So it's officially not 3:34:03.520 --> 3:34:05.680 out yet right yet. Man. 3:34:05.680 --> 3:34:08.160 If I don't kick rhymes, i'm mc let me say 3:34:08.200 --> 3:34:10.920 I said, let's I said what I said? 3:34:11.040 --> 3:34:11.400 I said? 3:34:11.720 --> 3:34:13.480 I said, Holy ground and pillars. 3:34:13.560 --> 3:34:18.960 Lord willis drug dealers, monks with keys, the Goriller, Chicago Illa, 3:34:19.480 --> 3:34:23.680 some no dealer, rich costs, fulfillers, parents trying to get 3:34:23.720 --> 3:34:28.720 their kids to eighteen so they willers. Youngkins is restless 3:34:29.240 --> 3:34:33.040 investments investors. My man ain't from Dallas, but you know 3:34:33.120 --> 3:34:38.240 where the text is. Hold them, my poker face is golden. 3:34:41.160 --> 3:34:44.600 Hold them, My poker face is golden pedigree of a 3:34:44.760 --> 3:34:47.800 legacy that stolen why it is like the old man 3:34:47.879 --> 3:34:51.000 with food in his bed and when he cried freedom. 3:34:51.120 --> 3:34:55.080 It's jews in his tiars, blues in the beers outside, 3:34:55.160 --> 3:34:57.600 in the fierce a slew for the truth. 3:34:57.879 --> 3:34:59.160 It's clues in the years. 3:35:00.120 --> 3:35:02.800 I unrude the fears so that I could get bizz 3:35:03.480 --> 3:35:07.520 like the diabolical and do the improbable, that anything's possible 3:35:07.640 --> 3:35:11.040 ills but it's logical touched by black angels, so you 3:35:11.160 --> 3:35:12.400 can feel the molecule. 3:35:13.040 --> 3:35:13.320 Damn. 3:35:14.360 --> 3:35:22.000 Yeah, take you back to you said, you're not you 3:35:22.120 --> 3:35:24.080 grown man, You're not nineteen no more. 3:35:24.480 --> 3:35:26.199 Hold were you when you did this album? 3:35:26.959 --> 3:35:29.039 I was nineteen. I was nineteen when I did. 3:35:29.600 --> 3:35:30.199 Can I bring. 3:35:35.000 --> 3:35:37.880 That style, that flow style that you have on there? 3:35:37.920 --> 3:35:41.240 When you were doing that? Where did that come from? 3:35:41.280 --> 3:35:43.160 And when did you say I'm not doing that no more? 3:35:43.520 --> 3:35:47.400 It was all influenced. It was influences of Tribe. 3:35:49.000 --> 3:35:54.280 Lea's a New School, Charlie Brown, just me thinking about 3:35:54.400 --> 3:35:57.280 James Brown, all like, just trying to think of something 3:35:57.320 --> 3:36:00.760 that was creative and free to be uniquely you, uniquely me, 3:36:01.240 --> 3:36:04.960 And it sounded too close to what was going on. 3:36:05.280 --> 3:36:07.880 So I started to develop my own you know what 3:36:07.920 --> 3:36:10.800 I'm saying, Like, that's why probably people didn't respond to 3:36:10.879 --> 3:36:14.000 that album because Charlie Brown had already did the hot. 3:36:14.879 --> 3:36:17.280 All that shit. You know, he was did that. 3:36:17.440 --> 3:36:20.119 So I just just so I was like that, ain't 3:36:20.320 --> 3:36:21.560 that ain't unique? 3:36:22.480 --> 3:36:24.280 So you think it wasn't unique? You think it wasn't 3:36:24.480 --> 3:36:26.440 received as unique your style there. 3:36:26.760 --> 3:36:29.000 No, I wasn't received as unique. I think what was 3:36:29.160 --> 3:36:30.879 unique was that I was from Chicago. 3:36:31.120 --> 3:36:35.600 Some Chicago ship, but the style, some of the styles 3:36:35.680 --> 3:36:37.840 was unique, but not that high pitch ship. But that 3:36:37.920 --> 3:36:40.920 ship wasn't unique because Charlie Brown did it, and like, 3:36:41.440 --> 3:36:42.840 you know, I got to give it up for that, 3:36:43.120 --> 3:36:45.800 like that I ain't. I ain't gonna like like that 3:36:45.959 --> 3:36:51.160 was one of the influences. So but eventually, like I 3:36:51.280 --> 3:36:53.280 listened to young dudes sometimes and they I'll be like, 3:36:53.360 --> 3:36:54.760 I can tell you listen to Jake Cole. 3:36:54.840 --> 3:36:56.760 I can tell you listen, right, I tell you. 3:36:57.080 --> 3:37:01.080 But then you eventually hear like, oh, development to your 3:37:01.120 --> 3:37:05.080 own so and that's all of us. So well, that's 3:37:05.120 --> 3:37:05.760 how we all came. 3:37:06.840 --> 3:37:11.640 So that I hadn't developed yet, and that's why I think. 3:37:11.840 --> 3:37:14.119 You know, so when you finally feel like you dropped 3:37:14.160 --> 3:37:17.119 that is, did you drop sense off of common sense? 3:37:17.360 --> 3:37:17.520 Well? 3:37:17.560 --> 3:37:19.480 That was just because I was getting sued by these 3:37:19.560 --> 3:37:20.960 niggas that was in California. 3:37:21.080 --> 3:37:22.680 Really, I don't know what happened. 3:37:22.400 --> 3:37:25.000 That these niggas had the name common Sense. There was 3:37:25.040 --> 3:37:28.440 a reggae band. It was a black white, black white 3:37:28.520 --> 3:37:29.240 Chinese man. 3:37:38.120 --> 3:37:44.880 Everybody killers just make them up two minutes ago and 3:37:44.959 --> 3:37:46.000 there was reggae. 3:37:47.200 --> 3:37:49.800 And I was like, what the fuck y'all suing me? 3:37:49.879 --> 3:37:52.240 I ain't know, I ain't no good lawyers, and they 3:37:52.400 --> 3:37:55.360 like they came out like yo, we're suing your ass 3:37:55.480 --> 3:37:58.160 for the name common Sense. And I was like what 3:37:58.879 --> 3:38:01.039 Just because because I used to up had just come out. 3:38:02.000 --> 3:38:03.800 I had a quote from Biggie. You men, we used 3:38:03.840 --> 3:38:08.000 to get quotes from other to be like, yo, he's dope. 3:38:08.240 --> 3:38:10.720 Biggie said, yeah, I wish he was from Brooklyn. I 3:38:10.840 --> 3:38:15.600 was like, oh my god. And as soon as I 3:38:15.720 --> 3:38:18.000 came out and I used to love him. And it 3:38:18.120 --> 3:38:20.520 was the first time I met Nas, and I remember 3:38:20.560 --> 3:38:21.480 the exact words now. 3:38:21.520 --> 3:38:23.960 I said to me, He said, keep doing what you're doing. 3:38:24.400 --> 3:38:26.680 And I was like, damn, that's. 3:38:26.680 --> 3:38:29.720 Nas, like you know this, And I was like, you 3:38:29.800 --> 3:38:31.439 got a little man crushed on nos. 3:38:39.520 --> 3:38:40.360 Like like. 3:38:42.200 --> 3:38:47.960 What we do whoever you you meet, Prince, You're like, okay, 3:38:48.120 --> 3:38:55.520 all right, it's real listen. 3:38:56.120 --> 3:38:59.959 But I was like, man, I'm trying to establish myself 3:39:00.080 --> 3:39:03.560 as the MC and unique wow and be like so 3:39:04.480 --> 3:39:07.320 you know when I got certain respect from different people. 3:39:07.760 --> 3:39:10.720 That's why y'all talked about something and I was like, damn, 3:39:11.000 --> 3:39:13.800 I remember moving to New York and that changed my life. 3:39:14.280 --> 3:39:17.080 You were talking about I moved to New York from 3:39:17.200 --> 3:39:20.039 Chicago in like ninety eight, and when you talked about 3:39:20.120 --> 3:39:22.520 ninety eight, that's that. Yeah, it meant something to me 3:39:22.680 --> 3:39:24.800 because it was like the time moved in New York. 3:39:25.080 --> 3:39:27.480 I remember Pete came to the video we did for 3:39:27.720 --> 3:39:31.080 with Lauren Hill LAWNG Hill, and it was like I 3:39:31.240 --> 3:39:34.160 was in the I was around some of my pis 3:39:34.520 --> 3:39:37.000 or people that I looked up to, not just my pis. 3:39:37.720 --> 3:39:39.960 But that's how I was able to start connecting on 3:39:40.120 --> 3:39:44.200 different things, like just being around, like being available, Like 3:39:44.560 --> 3:39:47.760 because being in Chicago, niggas you out of sight, you 3:39:47.879 --> 3:39:53.000 out of mind. But if I'm like, oh Pete, what's up, 3:39:53.400 --> 3:39:56.320 I'm gonna come to the studio too, Pete might be like, Yo, 3:39:56.600 --> 3:39:58.680 I want you on this song with Nori and Big 3:39:58.800 --> 3:40:00.720 Pun and Big Pun come bro. 3:40:02.120 --> 3:40:03.199 I think about that ship. 3:40:04.200 --> 3:40:05.600 I think about that ship. 3:40:05.959 --> 3:40:09.680 That shouldt means something to bro to my spirit, real 3:40:09.959 --> 3:40:10.640 to my spirit. 3:40:11.280 --> 3:40:14.960 When I seen you yesterday and then I watched everything 3:40:15.040 --> 3:40:17.000 because you got to realize I've seen you at the 3:40:17.040 --> 3:40:20.160 next game and he's literally where you know this is. 3:40:20.240 --> 3:40:27.600 This is my my favorite camera guy, slash hater. Only 3:40:27.600 --> 3:40:31.800 even sports come to sports, but you were literally like 3:40:32.080 --> 3:40:34.760 right where he was sitting that. And then it was 3:40:34.879 --> 3:40:38.440 so crazy because I'm like, yo, I did a record 3:40:38.520 --> 3:40:43.960 with me comment and Punt, and I'm going to interview 3:40:44.560 --> 3:40:54.080 comment and Pete produce it. And then Joe is saying, 3:40:54.800 --> 3:40:57.959 you see coming over there. You want me to hook 3:40:58.000 --> 3:41:03.680 you all up, and I'm like I'm already hook I'm like, 3:41:03.920 --> 3:41:08.600 wait a minute, Pun, I mean Joe is pun. Oh yeah, 3:41:09.000 --> 3:41:11.000 just think about it. So I'm like I'm looking like 3:41:11.040 --> 3:41:13.920 I'm like, holy ship, that's why everyone's. 3:41:13.560 --> 3:41:15.520 Looking like you was nervous. I was like, I'm not. 3:41:15.680 --> 3:41:18.360 I wasn't nervous at all. I was just looking at 3:41:18.480 --> 3:41:19.320 guard work. 3:41:20.680 --> 3:41:24.000 Guard was working yesterday, So I was just like, you 3:41:24.120 --> 3:41:32.440 know what, let me let me like, I'm looking at you. 3:41:33.120 --> 3:41:34.480 I'm sorry cause I know you ain't got to say 3:41:34.480 --> 3:41:36.520 something and let you say it, but I'm looking at 3:41:36.720 --> 3:41:41.240 I'm looking at you. And then this morning I see 3:41:41.360 --> 3:41:48.720 Chris Atlas, who is one of the motherfucking loyalists, realist 3:41:49.560 --> 3:41:51.440 people in this motherfucking game. 3:41:51.879 --> 3:42:01.080 He deserves his flower. Chris, ya say that risk listeners 3:42:01.160 --> 3:42:06.360 coming Cornerstone days, many soul days. 3:42:07.760 --> 3:42:10.480 Motherfucker. And when I was mad that Timmy boy, he 3:42:10.600 --> 3:42:11.240 helped me down. 3:42:12.400 --> 3:42:13.960 He was like, I'm mad. I tell you boy too. 3:42:16.200 --> 3:42:19.080 But I really really. 3:42:20.520 --> 3:42:23.600 Appreciate you two brothers, man, I really appreciate you two 3:42:23.680 --> 3:42:27.000 brothers taking your time out to be paused with each other. 3:42:27.400 --> 3:42:29.520 And what you know, because you got to say pause 3:42:29.560 --> 3:42:35.680 it you really don't have to. Yeah, but you know 3:42:35.720 --> 3:42:41.120 what I'm saying because I love hip hop, man, I 3:42:41.280 --> 3:42:42.960 really really really love hip hop. 3:42:43.360 --> 3:42:43.920 I want to. 3:42:47.879 --> 3:42:51.360 I want to always salute hip hop. And when I 3:42:51.480 --> 3:42:56.080 know YouTube brothers did this album and we got sent 3:42:56.560 --> 3:42:58.840 we got personally sent a link. 3:43:00.680 --> 3:43:12.800 I'm si ship just one day, let me just tell 3:43:12.800 --> 3:43:13.200 you something. 3:43:13.600 --> 3:43:16.600 And we do this all the time, like like you 3:43:16.640 --> 3:43:19.080 know people you know, even at least the Keys, this 3:43:20.040 --> 3:43:26.640 album earlier and our management did comment on hers, but 3:43:27.200 --> 3:43:29.320 this is the first time they sent it. 3:43:29.360 --> 3:43:31.840 And was like, Yo, did y'all listen. 3:43:34.040 --> 3:43:39.560 Because this is hip fucking hot that you made and comment, 3:43:40.080 --> 3:43:44.879 I wanna, you know, give it to you because I'm 3:43:44.920 --> 3:43:46.160 not giving it to both of y'all. 3:43:46.160 --> 3:43:46.360 Book. 3:43:46.440 --> 3:43:49.360 What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is you could 3:43:49.400 --> 3:43:53.200 have been like, let me make a pop recordar let 3:43:53.240 --> 3:43:58.119 me do this, and no, it's exactly what you guys said. 3:43:58.360 --> 3:44:05.720 It's nineties now, yeah, that's all. Yeah, Now that's a 3:44:05.760 --> 3:44:09.879 good way of saying it. I feel like I give 3:44:09.959 --> 3:44:10.640 that yo. 3:44:12.240 --> 3:44:19.560 That because we needed someone that heard it to tell 3:44:19.640 --> 3:44:19.879 it to. 3:44:20.320 --> 3:44:23.200 Yes, so thank you. It's dope man. 3:44:23.959 --> 3:44:26.720 So so and by the way, like I said, I'm 3:44:26.720 --> 3:44:28.600 playing I was playing around by saying I'm bootlegging it. 3:44:28.760 --> 3:44:30.720 You know what I'm saying. We all heard it and 3:44:30.879 --> 3:44:33.880 was like, what the fuck like this ship is. 3:44:35.800 --> 3:44:40.800 I appreciate y'all for for not forgetting but then still remembering. 3:44:42.800 --> 3:44:44.720 I don't know if that made sense, but what I'm 3:44:44.760 --> 3:44:49.879 saying is it's exactly what you said. It's not then it's. 3:44:49.920 --> 3:44:55.240 Then energy the energy, but it's now moment right, everything 3:44:55.360 --> 3:44:58.120 is new to now. But you're bringing that energy. 3:44:58.760 --> 3:45:02.920 We could tell the message is Martin and Malcolm, but 3:45:03.120 --> 3:45:04.480 it's now that's happening. 3:45:04.840 --> 3:45:06.040 We need we need a leader. 3:45:06.160 --> 3:45:06.320 Now. 3:45:06.640 --> 3:45:08.920 We can't live we can't live in you can't live 3:45:08.959 --> 3:45:10.200 in no more out here. 3:45:10.200 --> 3:45:11.160 It's the youngins. 3:45:11.240 --> 3:45:11.400 Now. 3:45:11.920 --> 3:45:15.120 We have to reintroduce ourselves to these youngins. And so 3:45:15.560 --> 3:45:18.800 it's important that you know, I make music this way 3:45:19.440 --> 3:45:22.480 they could relate to awsome, but it still gives us 3:45:22.600 --> 3:45:24.000 that feel that we missed. 3:45:23.800 --> 3:45:28.200 Like ah, but the truth is like the purity of 3:45:28.320 --> 3:45:33.120 what what p rock creates is like it feels a 3:45:33.240 --> 3:45:35.880 space that like we don't get in hip hop a lot. 3:45:36.680 --> 3:45:39.200 And when I when I hear the music and I'm like, damn, 3:45:39.280 --> 3:45:43.000 this is just sample. But it's like, man, this don't 3:45:43.080 --> 3:45:44.840 have an age to it. When I was listening to 3:45:44.920 --> 3:45:48.080 Michael Jackson, I wasn't thinking about like the twenty five years. 3:45:48.920 --> 3:45:52.160 But when I was listening to Stevie Wonder, how did 3:45:52.240 --> 3:45:54.360 this July was the first TV that was the first 3:45:54.440 --> 3:45:57.279 ob my own Stevie Wonder. 3:45:57.160 --> 3:45:59.000 You did you can see ye? 3:46:04.600 --> 3:46:04.800 Sing? 3:46:08.800 --> 3:46:14.920 Let me see him? No, let me tell you say yes, no, no, no, no, 3:46:15.360 --> 3:46:16.160 tell Illuminati. 3:46:22.520 --> 3:46:24.840 I'm gonna tell you I sat across from Stevie Wonder, 3:46:24.920 --> 3:46:26.320 and I'm telling you all this for real. 3:46:26.760 --> 3:46:27.640 We was eating lunch. 3:46:27.680 --> 3:46:29.960 It's just me and him, and I'm sitting there like 3:46:30.680 --> 3:46:32.640 and we was in the studio and here it was 3:46:32.720 --> 3:46:33.199 just talking. 3:46:33.320 --> 3:46:34.080 It was just lunch. 3:46:34.720 --> 3:46:39.200 And I saw him using certain things to operate, and 3:46:39.360 --> 3:46:44.160 I was like, he can't see, he can't see. And 3:46:45.400 --> 3:46:47.320 I was sitting there first of all, like, damn, I'm 3:46:47.320 --> 3:46:50.040 sitting here with Stevie Wonder. This is me and Stevie Wonder. 3:46:50.280 --> 3:46:53.680 But I also was like I heard those rumors like 3:46:53.760 --> 3:46:56.800 Stevie Wander could see, but he not one moment did 3:46:56.840 --> 3:46:59.040 he do something that made me feel like he could see, 3:46:59.560 --> 3:47:01.560 Like the man case you. 3:47:01.600 --> 3:47:04.280 Said you had lunch with him, just you went, but 3:47:04.400 --> 3:47:07.800 how did he eat? You can't see like you can feel. 3:47:07.879 --> 3:47:20.320 Can't you feel that you can feel? You like he plays? 3:47:25.000 --> 3:47:27.320 But Shack, it was Shack who said he was in 3:47:27.400 --> 3:47:29.920 the elevator. And I think it was the Icey brother 3:47:30.160 --> 3:47:36.200 or Iley brothers said that said Street, I promise you 3:47:36.440 --> 3:47:41.120 we'll see. Then was I brother? But somebody said he 3:47:41.200 --> 3:47:45.080 said he was, and he got the elevator with him 3:47:45.280 --> 3:47:46.080 and he said, what's up? 3:47:46.120 --> 3:47:49.560 Big das like like he he knew he might have 3:47:49.640 --> 3:47:54.480 smelled some sawd him. He's coming into that he might 3:47:54.920 --> 3:47:57.160 people think that. So he's gonna play more jokes on me. 3:47:57.240 --> 3:47:59.720 I want Stevie wondering drink est go like this to him, 3:48:00.320 --> 3:48:01.800 and I want to see if you can go. I 3:48:01.920 --> 3:48:08.120 got your nigga, I wanted to do that. You ain't 3:48:08.120 --> 3:48:16.560 taking shot. You'll do it. 3:48:16.760 --> 3:48:21.320 Yeah, yes, h yo, listen common Pete Rock. I know 3:48:21.400 --> 3:48:25.560 you guys gotta go. This has been so much of 3:48:25.640 --> 3:48:30.879 a pleasure. We start this show to give people their flowers. 3:48:31.000 --> 3:48:34.000 I can't stand on culture when they say that you've 3:48:34.040 --> 3:48:38.480 been here ten years and you you know you're washed up. 3:48:38.840 --> 3:48:40.080 There's no washed up. 3:48:42.760 --> 3:48:43.560 In rock and roll. 3:48:43.920 --> 3:48:46.640 There's no washed up in heavy metal. Nick Jacket is 3:48:46.720 --> 3:48:52.080 nine hundred years old. Nigga out here doing cocaine one 3:48:52.120 --> 3:48:53.000 hundred miles. 3:48:52.760 --> 3:48:53.560 A minute. 3:48:54.760 --> 3:48:58.240 And torring god speak on the god the fuck we 3:48:58.360 --> 3:48:59.920 can't do the same ship speak. 3:49:00.440 --> 3:49:03.120 We ain't got to do cocain and like that tell 3:49:03.160 --> 3:49:03.440 you y'all. 3:49:04.240 --> 3:49:06.920 What I'm trying to tell y'all is it's real, like 3:49:08.400 --> 3:49:14.440 our coach has to continue to celebrate us. Yeah, it's 3:49:14.640 --> 3:49:16.520 it's whack when we don't. 3:49:17.480 --> 3:49:21.000 It takes nothing from me. Ef n our crew. Our 3:49:21.120 --> 3:49:23.000 crew loves what the fuck we do. 3:49:23.800 --> 3:49:31.920 We love you, brothers, We love we want, not just 3:49:32.040 --> 3:49:34.080 that record that y'all gave us, give us more. 3:49:34.160 --> 3:49:38.040 Well fucking we'll continue to promote this ship. Well continue. 3:49:38.240 --> 3:49:41.400 This is your platform, and I want you to know 3:49:41.560 --> 3:49:44.400 that always you know what I'm saying. I really really, 3:49:44.600 --> 3:49:46.800 really really really really. 3:49:46.680 --> 3:49:50.040 Want you to know that I know that you brothers 3:49:50.040 --> 3:49:56.040 are hip hop. I know to represent hip hop. I 3:49:56.240 --> 3:50:00.400 trust both for you with hip hop, I trust both 3:50:00.440 --> 3:50:00.600 for you. 3:50:00.760 --> 3:50:01.000 Thank you. 3:50:01.280 --> 3:50:04.960 So I want to tell the audience how much I 3:50:05.040 --> 3:50:07.600 trust both for you and how much we are honored 3:50:09.800 --> 3:50:12.400 that you guys came here. And I don't know if 3:50:12.440 --> 3:50:15.360 this is your first interview, but please be from here. 3:50:16.640 --> 3:50:20.600 I'm about together and those lots of brothers club to 3:50:20.640 --> 3:50:26.960 stay here, stay here. In general, you stay here, okay, okay, 3:50:27.120 --> 3:50:29.280 after we dropped the promo, then you go somewhere else. 3:50:29.320 --> 3:50:31.880 I got you, I got you. I'll tell you where 3:50:31.880 --> 3:50:42.000 it goes. We always agreed, agreed. We love you. Look, 3:50:42.160 --> 3:50:46.840 this is my business partners, my brother and look what 3:50:47.360 --> 3:50:52.200 he has presented. He has went by the way. 3:50:52.240 --> 3:50:55.840 This is real albums. He ain't go buy them yesterday. Yeah, 3:50:55.920 --> 3:50:56.960 this is the original. 3:50:57.040 --> 3:50:58.320 I'm not stopping your wisdom. 3:50:58.400 --> 3:51:01.680 Please, you would cut my wisdom. You only know your wisdom. 3:51:02.280 --> 3:51:05.560 But any time I see common Sense on the project 3:51:05.880 --> 3:51:10.160 common Sense, that means that DJ, that artist went and 3:51:10.280 --> 3:51:13.440 got that ship original. I had to change my name 3:51:13.600 --> 3:51:16.560 to common So common sense mean he got that ship 3:51:16.600 --> 3:51:17.800 when it was came out. 3:51:17.920 --> 3:51:18.280 That's right. 3:51:18.480 --> 3:51:27.640 I'm just you know then, man, We're grateful to be 3:51:27.920 --> 3:51:30.480 on here with y'all, man because this is where, this 3:51:30.680 --> 3:51:34.360 is our home, this is where we just what this 3:51:34.520 --> 3:51:35.640 is what we about this. 3:51:36.400 --> 3:51:37.680 I've been waiting to be on drink. 3:51:38.360 --> 3:51:42.760 I was meaning for you to say, don't tell me. 3:51:45.000 --> 3:51:45.200 You know. 3:51:49.760 --> 3:51:51.840 You got to hear it's all the joints that we got, 3:51:52.240 --> 3:51:54.920 everything so everything so grand. And I got a couple 3:51:54.920 --> 3:51:58.240 of verses like I got I gave you you know, 3:51:59.040 --> 3:52:11.800 don't tell me you take a shot that thanks but 3:52:12.040 --> 3:52:15.120 thank you so much. And we got this. Man, I 3:52:15.200 --> 3:52:22.160 need you to sign this. Motherfuckers don't and we wrapping 3:52:22.200 --> 3:52:25.320 it up at this but I want can you shout 3:52:25.360 --> 3:52:28.360 out every argument that you have bro Listen to me. 3:52:28.760 --> 3:52:31.240 Resurrection sold by the pound to me, is a game changer. 3:52:31.880 --> 3:52:33.120 There is a game changing record. 3:52:33.280 --> 3:52:37.120 Hold it up. Hold this, motherfuckers. Man, we're on a 3:52:37.200 --> 3:52:39.000 television show. I don't know if you know you still 3:52:39.000 --> 3:52:41.000 love it came out after this, right? I used to 3:52:41.040 --> 3:52:43.360 love it? Right? But to me, this is a game 3:52:43.480 --> 3:52:47.000 changer for you. Did you feel the same way I 3:52:47.120 --> 3:52:47.320 used to? 3:52:47.520 --> 3:52:49.240 Maybe I used to love it came out before, but 3:52:49.320 --> 3:52:51.640 I'm sorry, but it was it wasn't game changer. 3:52:51.920 --> 3:52:54.280 It was a game changer from the Pound still had 3:52:54.280 --> 3:52:55.120 your old flow on it. 3:52:55.240 --> 3:52:58.240 Yeah, but but you sed toll Love. It came out 3:52:58.280 --> 3:53:00.520 before that because it was on the album. But that 3:53:00.840 --> 3:53:03.600 regardless of that, the fact you got the fucking comments. 3:53:03.720 --> 3:53:07.000 But this, this remix, no, this sold by the Pounds 3:53:07.400 --> 3:53:11.720 remix is a game change, real, real game change. Man, 3:53:12.280 --> 3:53:14.640 It's a game change. And listen, we already know about 3:53:14.880 --> 3:53:16.160 keep going. You ain't going to that one? 3:53:16.320 --> 3:53:18.600 Which one? The one that Resurrection? 3:53:19.320 --> 3:53:23.880 I'm chain? Okay, come on, you got left, you got lust? 3:53:24.960 --> 3:53:29.600 And actually the sample from Resurrection is the same album 3:53:29.640 --> 3:53:35.080 I took World as Yours from. Yes, okay, so that's 3:53:35.560 --> 3:53:40.400 the history. We bounce off each other, right, Yes, you 3:53:40.440 --> 3:53:40.960 know what I'm saying. 3:53:41.920 --> 3:53:44.440 Listen, the album. To me, I took it out beause 3:53:44.440 --> 3:53:46.520 you were about to sign it, but you said that 3:53:46.720 --> 3:53:49.720 this is the flow and we love this album. I 3:53:49.800 --> 3:53:50.440 love this album. 3:53:50.640 --> 3:53:54.880 This album is dope to me because La raising Miami. 3:53:55.240 --> 3:53:57.200 I'm listening to hip hop from all. 3:53:57.160 --> 3:53:59.200 Over the nation, you know what I'm saying. And to me, 3:53:59.400 --> 3:54:01.160 this was dope coming out of Chicago. I wanted to 3:54:01.200 --> 3:54:03.080 hear what was coming out of Chicago, and you came 3:54:03.120 --> 3:54:05.240 out with a certain flow and it was dope to me. 3:54:05.640 --> 3:54:14.760 So I love that joint. You already know what this is. 3:54:19.720 --> 3:54:22.120 I don't think this is just a classic for hip hop, 3:54:22.440 --> 3:54:25.960 is a classic for for just music in general. Real, yeah, 3:54:26.280 --> 3:54:29.960 this when this record comes on. Even if you weren't 3:54:29.960 --> 3:54:32.480 around when this record came out, you can't. 3:54:32.360 --> 3:54:37.200 Help such a special record. I worked on that hard, 3:54:37.360 --> 3:54:38.360 such a special. 3:54:38.120 --> 3:54:40.240 Record, man, so I could feel it, man, And to 3:54:40.320 --> 3:54:42.160 be honest with you, was then followed by straighten it out, 3:54:42.240 --> 3:54:43.560 yeah brother, yeah. 3:54:49.440 --> 3:54:58.640 Yo. Everybody wanted to straighten the funk out and you're solo. 3:54:58.920 --> 3:55:02.880 Yeah man, thank you the words you did? What as 3:55:02.920 --> 3:55:05.160 a mix? Because I grew up the mixtape d J. 3:55:05.400 --> 3:55:09.000 I just wanted to create a masterpiece like you was 3:55:09.080 --> 3:55:11.560 doing it man, Thank you incredible what you did right here. 3:55:11.800 --> 3:55:22.480 You should be proud too, right you did like everybody 3:55:22.480 --> 3:55:26.800 to get so that was a bigation man, Thank you. Yeah. 3:55:27.560 --> 3:55:29.440 And I brought a little extra something because you know, 3:55:29.480 --> 3:55:33.640 when the labels were sending them, I had to show, man, 3:55:33.680 --> 3:55:34.320 you're gonna. 3:55:34.080 --> 3:55:41.920 Sign this to I got to that's crazy and I 3:55:42.000 --> 3:55:43.840 have more to that. But I just brought these joints. 3:55:44.240 --> 3:55:47.840 I got so much more that once again, what day 3:55:47.880 --> 3:55:48.760 is the album dropping? 3:55:49.240 --> 3:55:51.560 It's dropping in July July twelfth. 3:55:51.560 --> 3:55:56.840 July twelve. We're gonna promote this. Yes, we're gonna put 3:55:56.880 --> 3:56:00.760 our monkey foot in the front. Thank you, Forecasts. We're 3:56:00.800 --> 3:56:04.280 gonna make sure that they do it. And I'm actually 3:56:04.360 --> 3:56:06.000 trying to sneak on the album because you know you 3:56:06.000 --> 3:56:21.040 can do that. Send me a joint, don't listen, man, 3:56:21.160 --> 3:56:24.880 because I mean, honestly, I just really want to support this. 3:56:26.600 --> 3:56:35.120 Thank you. Yeah, Yeah, let's go. I want to sell 3:56:35.120 --> 3:56:39.640 you that. Relax, you know, I really you know, brothers, 3:56:39.720 --> 3:56:40.640 thank y'all so much. 3:56:40.760 --> 3:56:40.920 Man. 3:56:41.320 --> 3:56:42.400 I appreciate y'all. 3:56:43.560 --> 3:56:48.560 I appreciate y'all coming together, and I appreciate y'all keeping 3:56:48.560 --> 3:56:52.440 the hip hop and I appreciate it making it to 3:56:52.520 --> 3:56:57.200 a drink Champion. Yeah, man for the first stop. That's beautiful. 3:56:58.040 --> 3:57:05.200 Son. Like I said, I we're gonna support this. We're 3:57:05.240 --> 3:57:07.720 gonna make sure and we're gonna we're gonna keep hip 3:57:07.720 --> 3:57:10.480 hop alive together. Of course together, we gotta get in 3:57:10.560 --> 3:57:13.480 the studio. I got yeah, yeah, you know, I'm scared 3:57:13.480 --> 3:57:21.040 of death. Studio. We did another joint. I know, I 3:57:21.120 --> 3:57:23.640 got beats that you I know I got. Let's go, 3:57:23.920 --> 3:57:25.880 Let's go. And by the way, I'm gonna be honest 3:57:25.920 --> 3:57:28.120 with you. This is our head director. But you you 3:57:28.280 --> 3:57:32.480 is uncle. I know, I know, I know that's like 3:57:32.520 --> 3:57:33.280 a little racist. 3:57:40.640 --> 3:57:43.960 Drink Champs is a Drink Champs ll C production hosts 3:57:44.000 --> 3:57:46.840 and executive producers n O r E and d J 3:57:47.040 --> 3:57:50.840 E f N. Listen to Drink Champs on Apple Podcast, 3:57:51.040 --> 3:57:56.200 Amazon Music, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks 3:57:56.240 --> 3:57:58.720 for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs hosted 3:57:58.760 --> 3:58:01.080 by Yours Truly, dj E f N and n O 3:58:01.280 --> 3:58:03.280 r E. Please make sure to follow us on all 3:58:03.360 --> 3:58:07.000 our socials that's at drink Champs across all platforms. 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