WEBVTT - Bowl Chat - My Bowl Friday

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, is this on?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe so you're the one with all the buttons

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a giant roadcaster next to me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>press record and it's showing levels and I can see

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony and we are recording. All right, perfect, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>bull Chat on a Friday. I know I didn't give

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<v Speaker 1>it to you guys this Wednesday, but I figured why

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<v Speaker 1>not pick up the slack and give you guys some

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<v Speaker 1>extra content.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so this is just like a bonus episode almost

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<v Speaker 2>or a late episode. How would you consider this mode

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<v Speaker 2>you classified us?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say it's a late episode because we usually

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<v Speaker 1>do Bulchats on Wednesdays. Also, if you're watching this, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I am wearing basically what is what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>My shawl?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a shawl. It's like a Grandma shaw This.

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<v Speaker 1>Is my grandma shaw My apartment is literally sixty one

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<v Speaker 1>degrees and I refuse to turn on the heat. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is how I'm living but sixty one Yeah, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep it cold. I don't like what Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>what's confusing is my electric bill is still ninety bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I do not turn on the heat.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you run a radio studio out of it

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<v Speaker 2>like you're doing right now. Maybe that's maybe that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not like bitcoin mining or anything. It

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be making my electric go up to ninety I

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<v Speaker 1>get that bill and I'm like confused. But anyway, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to a bowl chat on a Friday. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining me, Anthony. I didn't even tell

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<v Speaker 1>Scott I was doing it. I was just like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he gonna be mad?

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<v Speaker 1>No, because he refuses to do the at home thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried several times. So here, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>the at home thing? So I am at work, as

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<v Speaker 1>you know, quite late, three four, sometimes five o'clock. I

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<v Speaker 1>wake up, mind people start you start super early too, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So my day is very filled. And at ten am.

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<v Speaker 1>When we used to record before I had a million

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<v Speaker 1>and one jobs, it was fine, easy, but now it

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<v Speaker 1>is not so easy because I am doing ten million

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<v Speaker 1>jobs after ten I've told Scott a million and one times, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we really got to figure something out. Let's record bull

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<v Speaker 1>chats from home. We don't even need cereal. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dead life. So basically his.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids do things like that. It's not like he has

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<v Speaker 2>to watch them all the time. It's not that he's

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<v Speaker 2>not They're not infants.

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<v Speaker 1>People do not want to hear this from me, So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna keep it chugging. But basically, I have

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<v Speaker 1>my road cast you here at home. I can be recording.

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<v Speaker 1>So here I am delivering content to my fantastic audience.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and I don't listen. I'm not here to throw

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<v Speaker 2>you under the bus or anything, Andrew. But I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to point out, since this is the late episode,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not late because of me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not at all. It is late because of me.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, we're still providing it on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a fun little bonus episode. We love that.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of like an episode or a podcast

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<v Speaker 2>that used to be on the Elvis Durand network.

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<v Speaker 1>Called Oh my God, My Day Friday, My.

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<v Speaker 2>Day Friday, It's Andy's Day Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's bull Chat semi colon My Day.

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<v Speaker 2>Friday, My bull Chat Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>There we go, done, easy, great?

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<v Speaker 2>So what do we do here on the bull Chat?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, basically it's just like a life episode. You

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<v Speaker 1>just chat about live, just do a little quick chit chat.

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<v Speaker 2>So is the whole the whole morning show was on

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<v Speaker 2>vacation this past week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, I was not on vacation this week.

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<v Speaker 2>What were you actually working or you chose not to travel,

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<v Speaker 2>so we're both.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go to Florida, but then I had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of different podcasts recordings, so I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just stay home and it was actually really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I caught up on a lot of sleep, a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep, which was exactly what was needed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I haven't been obviously in the morning radio routine

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<v Speaker 2>a long time. We still do our morning show, but

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<v Speaker 2>we don't start until eight because it's an hour long

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not like we have breaks. So we do

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<v Speaker 2>a full hour of content on Twitch and then we

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<v Speaker 2>have the morning Show podcast. But that schedule, when you

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<v Speaker 2>wake up at four thirty four forty five five o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>and you're at work and you're you're chugging along, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>one six o'clock rolls, I mean that train is leaving

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<v Speaker 2>the station and you are going one hundred miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what people don't understand about the more

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<v Speaker 2>show life is when you show up, you can very

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<v Speaker 2>rarely have an off day or quiet day. Right like

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<v Speaker 2>when my brother was working for. It was like some

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<v Speaker 2>online services telemarketing company. You know, there were days that

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<v Speaker 2>he could show up hungover, throw his headphones on and

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<v Speaker 2>no one bothered him for the whole day. That doesn't work,

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<v Speaker 2>although we do throw headphones on obviously, that does not

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<v Speaker 2>work in morning radio because you are on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's like entering like a pressure cooker. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>minute you get there, it's just like constant action talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Things are always happening, so it's like yeah a lot so.

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<v Speaker 2>And that show specifically, it's it's like being strapped into

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<v Speaker 2>a roller coaster. Right, everything's kind of calm until the

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<v Speaker 2>mic opens at six o'clock and you don't know where

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<v Speaker 2>you're going. That thing is whipping you around, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of things you got to do, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to an end at what nine to fifty one? Right, nine?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the exact time? N nine for one, Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the roller coaster stops. You kind of jerk

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<v Speaker 2>forward a little bit and you look around.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, I made it, we did it, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then let's let's do this again tomorrow. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>like also so many like little side things that happen

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<v Speaker 1>after the show now that I'm involved with. And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the roller coaster just keeps on chug chugging,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you allowed to talk about all the different podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>that like you work on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there's a whole bunch of them. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on, Oh that is bright light. I'm gonna turn

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<v Speaker 1>that off because that is too much.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought looked pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It gives you, like some some side lighting looks very dramatic.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone should be watching YouTube, right damn, okay, just fix

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<v Speaker 2>my So something I see on on reels all the

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<v Speaker 2>time because I follow a bunch of video editors and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how you do dramatic lighting. You put one

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<v Speaker 2>light to your left and that's it. Like that's a

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<v Speaker 2>You made that sound much more involved than it really was.

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<v Speaker 1>I will actually say this looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it looks good, looks very dramatic.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, thank you? Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I work on like a bunch of different shows,

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<v Speaker 1>like at least nine of them at last last notice

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<v Speaker 1>or last check in. So that is a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>so like you said, come ten am when Scott's like

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<v Speaker 1>standing by my desk and it's like, hmm, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>can you just be available at two pm from your

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<v Speaker 1>house because that could work for me. I'll be home

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<v Speaker 1>at two.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids still in school at two pm. Listen, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to worry. I don't have to worry about kids

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<v Speaker 2>or picking them up or dropping them off, worrying about

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<v Speaker 2>there after school extra.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's a great dad, so I can't. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>knock him. He's a fantastic dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I'm just asking are they in school at

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<v Speaker 2>that time?

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<v Speaker 1>Dad? Life bro okay anyway? So yeah, just a lot

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<v Speaker 1>going on, but hey, we're here, we're providing a nice show.

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<v Speaker 1>My question is how has your sleep schedule been, Like

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like, would you ever go back to

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<v Speaker 1>morning radio hours?

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<v Speaker 2>Because you know, I absolutely would, people actually would.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen several instagrams where people are like, here's my

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<v Speaker 1>wake up routine. You want to wake up at four thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, as someone who doesn't get to choose, just

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<v Speaker 1>has to, no, you should not wake up at four

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<v Speaker 1>thirty and read like a meditation package and give yourself

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<v Speaker 1>an hour of breathing work like, no, stay asleep, get

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<v Speaker 1>all the sleep you can.

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<v Speaker 2>I think most of those people that do that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are filming themselves in the morning and

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<v Speaker 2>telling everyone else how to live a I think they're

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely full of garbage. Yeah. Secondly, they're not usually doing

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<v Speaker 2>public facing jobs as early as morning radio is. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the biggest difference, right. Sure, you can ease

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<v Speaker 2>into your day, Yeah, wake up at whatever time you

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<v Speaker 2>want if you've got If you want to waste three

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<v Speaker 2>hours or do things for three hours, that's that's great

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<v Speaker 2>before work. But to do that in your job, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>have to be up at three. Yeah, Like it's crazy. No,

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<v Speaker 2>But my my schedule, my sleep schedule, my morning schedule

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<v Speaker 2>has never ever been consistent. It's just not the way

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<v Speaker 2>that I live. Like, Yeah, when I was working morning radio,

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<v Speaker 2>I was at the studio by five point fifteen every morning,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still was It's not like I was going

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<v Speaker 2>to bed early. There were days I'd go to bed

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<v Speaker 2>at twelve. There were days I wouldn't go to bed.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd literally just work through the night and then stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never pulled it on lighter. That is one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I will not do. So many No, for me, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't care if I even get thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 1>of sleep. Like to me, I can run on thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you got to give me that time. I

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<v Speaker 1>will not ever push through without getting at least fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirty minutes, because that is enough for my brain to

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<v Speaker 1>just be like psh good.

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<v Speaker 2>I would actually prefer to not get the thirty. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the thirty messes me up. No, No, really,

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<v Speaker 2>it got to a point, especially when I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>morning radio, that if I was working late enough, like

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<v Speaker 2>let's say I was working till two thirty or three,

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<v Speaker 2>if I knew I was going to get less than

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<v Speaker 2>two hours of sleep, I just wouldn't sleep. No, But

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<v Speaker 2>it's the way that I normally. It's the way that

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<v Speaker 2>I've always been able to work. I'm a procrastinator, so

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<v Speaker 2>I can leave a lot of things to the last

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<v Speaker 2>moment and knock it all out. Not a healthy way

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<v Speaker 2>to live. But when I am working on a project,

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<v Speaker 2>I do have the ability to kind of put blinders

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<v Speaker 2>on and just do that thing for hours and hours

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<v Speaker 2>and hours and hours. Then it doesn't bother me. I

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<v Speaker 2>could work for twenty four straight hours, but then I

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<v Speaker 2>will completely unplug and I won't do anything for another

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<v Speaker 2>twelve hours and it's just whatever kind of is in

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<v Speaker 2>front of me. I'll tackle whatever's there and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>figure everything else out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like I enter that, like I could

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<v Speaker 1>be in hyper productive modes. And that's the other problem too.

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram reels is like you may have ADHD, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I do, but like thanks for offering

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<v Speaker 1>that advice.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we all have characteristics that might fall into those categories,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're also a hyper fixated population because we do

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<v Speaker 2>have things like TikTok reels, and we can fall down

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<v Speaker 2>every rabbit hole we need to because we have literally

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<v Speaker 2>every piece of information in our hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so true. I was just having this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with my mom actually, and they were just talking about

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<v Speaker 1>like the difference in the workforce and also how much

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<v Speaker 1>like things have changed, but like pay has pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>stayed stable. And I'm like, great, because in the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>and nineties, you weren't walking around with literally your work

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<v Speaker 1>on you at all times. Like you literally are now

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<v Speaker 1>expected to work if somebody texts or calls you. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you could set your boundaries and you could pretend like

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<v Speaker 1>your laptop is shut at five, but the minute you

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<v Speaker 1>get any email that's like urgent, you'd be the one

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me that you're not going to answer the call.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the people that say that there's two categories,

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<v Speaker 2>I think are maybe they're just driven differently than I am,

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<v Speaker 2>m hm right, But b I think there it's usually

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of person who has enough financial resources where

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<v Speaker 2>they don't care. Yeah, it's like, oh, well I just

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<v Speaker 2>shut off or blah blah blah. Yeah, well you could

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<v Speaker 2>do that. It's like, but I can't. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>be available for everyone that needs to because, hey, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to get fired. I'm trying to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>my clients are happy whatever it is. And it's tough,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do. I am a little envious of that

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<v Speaker 2>the generation, the last generation that was able to like

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<v Speaker 2>go to work and then go home. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy that we never knew life like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you know what's funny. I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>someone last summer and it was a friend who works

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<v Speaker 2>in like the music label space but also works with

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of radio friends that we know, and she

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<v Speaker 2>was saying that she she knows a guy I think

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<v Speaker 2>in either Spokane or Idaho. Spokane Washington or somewhere in Idaho,

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<v Speaker 2>because Spokane's like right on the border. And he used

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<v Speaker 2>to be a radio guy and he was making whatever

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<v Speaker 2>crappy pay the smaller market we're paying. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>a wedding DJ, and he loved being a wedding DJ.

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<v Speaker 2>So he said, you know what, I'm going to continue

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<v Speaker 2>doing this wedding DJ stuff because it actually pays pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, granted, you're it's not a lot of work

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<v Speaker 2>because you're generally working two or three days a week,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know if that's enough to sustain you.

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<v Speaker 2>But he then got a job at I believe it

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<v Speaker 2>was Costco, just stocking shelves and do a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>like back end work, not even really working with customers.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, it's it's so great because I leave

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<v Speaker 2>work now and it's not like Costco is calling me

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<v Speaker 2>to check on inventory stuff. I just I do my work.

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<v Speaker 2>I unload boxes, I stack shelves, but I need to

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<v Speaker 2>I put things back on trucks or take them off

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<v Speaker 2>and then I go home and they they pay my

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<v Speaker 2>medical bills. It's a really existant paycheck. Yet it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a full time job.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>With benefits.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, Scott's not bad like Washington State, I

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<v Speaker 2>think is. I think throughout this state it's fifteen dollars

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<v Speaker 2>an hour minimum wage. I know the city is for Seattle,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're paying him enough to live.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Scott has always said that when the radio

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<v Speaker 1>thing is done for him, he wants to work and

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<v Speaker 1>stock shelves in a supermarket. And all my time I've

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<v Speaker 1>been like, would that just get monotonous after a while,

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<v Speaker 1>But now that you're saying it, where it could just

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<v Speaker 1>it's consistent. You really can just shut your whole brain off,

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<v Speaker 1>like after work. That sounds magical.

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<v Speaker 2>You know how many people I see, whether it's like

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of you know, stocking, cleaning, whatever job, just

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<v Speaker 2>have headphones on. Yeah, it's like you're listening to whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you feel like listening to. Maybe you're listening to a

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and you feel like you're hanging out with your

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<v Speaker 2>friends all day, right, Yeah, maybe you're listening to an

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<v Speaker 2>audiobook and you're just doing a task. Yeah, it's easily identifiable.

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<v Speaker 2>Your boss tells you I need this task done, You

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<v Speaker 2>do it, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Go home, And I'm sure there's stressors to it too,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's kind of like, oh, this person's on my

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<v Speaker 1>ass about making sure it looks super tidy or inventory

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<v Speaker 1>isn'tcounted the right way. But there is something to it

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, you don't have an email address where

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<v Speaker 1>somebody is like going to contact you at like nine

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock at night and be like, hey need this now.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are obviously there are positives and negatives to

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<v Speaker 2>every job, like you said, but I will say, if

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<v Speaker 2>Scott wants to one day be out of radio and

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<v Speaker 2>stock shelves at a grocery store, it will be the neatest,

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<v Speaker 2>best stocked grocery store in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It will be the best grocery store in the entire country.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they will get awards, metals, even yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfectly stocked shelves. I do that now because I worked

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<v Speaker 2>at a deli. It was my first not it was

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<v Speaker 2>my first job that wasn't with my family. And there

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<v Speaker 2>was a deli next door to where I grew up,

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<v Speaker 2>so I worked there when I was like sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe even before that. I think it was fourteen or fifteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and one of my jobs was like sweeping the floors,

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<v Speaker 2>mopping the floors in stocking shelves. It's basically took out garbage,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will still stock the fridge at home like

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<v Speaker 2>I used to stock shelves at the deli, where if

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<v Speaker 2>Carla Marie, for example, buys a big case of a

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<v Speaker 2>spin drift or something, it's they're all set up by

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<v Speaker 2>the flavor, the labels are all out, they're perfectly aligned.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do that with everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, So you're really organized, that's like your thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just helps. I think when things are less cluttered,

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<v Speaker 2>I can think more clearly. I feel like physical clutter

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<v Speaker 2>actually clutters my brain. I don't know if that's like

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<v Speaker 2>a me thing or if that's a common trait. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that way when things are cluttered, I can't focus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like right now, I just have stuff on my counter,

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<v Speaker 1>And I've recently been going through a phase where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like how much can I get rid of? And like

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<v Speaker 1>how quickly? Because like even now, I'm like my desk

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<v Speaker 1>is so cluttered. I just have so much around me

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm like I need all of it gone, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just want nothing showing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy how when you really break it down, doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>matter if you're rich poor. It's crazy how much stuff

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<v Speaker 2>we have and that's something carl mari and I especially

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<v Speaker 2>because Carlon Marie moved into her home, her home and

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<v Speaker 2>moved into her home before I moved in, so she

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<v Speaker 2>had a fully set up home. And then I guess

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, it's two years ago I moved in

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<v Speaker 2>with her, and I had all of my stuff, and

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<v Speaker 2>granted I got rid of a lot, yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 2>gave stuff away to friends, I sold stuff on offer up,

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<v Speaker 2>donated some. But combining both of our stuff, we're still

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get through all of.

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<v Speaker 1>It, damn, because there's just so much crap.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the benefits of this job, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>morning radio or what we do on the in the

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<v Speaker 2>podcasting live streaming place space is you get free stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff You're even if you're not going out and buying it,

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting a lot of free stuff and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of it's like not super valuable, but at the same

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<v Speaker 2>time you're just getting it all the time. Yeah, next

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<v Speaker 2>thing you know, you're just living in a mountain of crap.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that to my core. And it doesn't help

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<v Speaker 1>that now I have all this koozy stuff, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>have a bag full of koozies. I have a photo

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<v Speaker 1>box because I need to take pictures of every koozy now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like it's doing it. Oh yeah, no, we legit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's really really Legit has like a little

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<v Speaker 1>light on the top. I need all these like professional

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<v Speaker 1>pictures taken.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hustling, so I'm just like really trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>that up and running. But in the meantime, it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>my it, the clutter is making me crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to get a good like storage area

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<v Speaker 2>or something. Do you how many koozies are you? Are

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<v Speaker 2>we allowed to use that word? Yeah, but you're not

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<v Speaker 2>allowed to call it that, right, Yeah, that's it. What

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<v Speaker 2>do you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So we'll be back right after this. Do Do

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<v Speaker 1>Do Do Do Do, and we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like my official commercial music. Okay, so yeah no.

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<v Speaker 2>But teaser that what a te is there? Really hope

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<v Speaker 2>people stay through the commercials.

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<v Speaker 1>So our company is still called Koozy Kings, but our

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<v Speaker 1>new label to actually sell them is called like what

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<v Speaker 1>we're trademarked as is brew Pants.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. So we're now because there's a company that

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<v Speaker 2>owns the word coozy.

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<v Speaker 1>Koo z i E is technically how you are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to refer to it, call it that is like a

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<v Speaker 1>licensed in trademarked name, which is insane to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But what if you just spelled it with a C.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we were doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And still not still not good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Nope, it's too close to the original.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Trademark law is weird, and they're like, you're selling a

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<v Speaker 1>similar product. Again, I don't think that. They were probably

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that people would sell coozies as much as they are,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were like, oh, yeah, just give them the word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. It's like, how Kylie generated like to try

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<v Speaker 1>to trademark the name Kylie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like, so you get trademark a very common name.

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<v Speaker 2>So how many brew pants before the name changed and

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<v Speaker 2>since the name change do you think you've sold? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>you have an exact number?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we literally thousands, like, if not tens of thousands. Really, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we did just last year alone, and I'll just say

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. We did one hundred fifty thousand in inventory,

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<v Speaker 1>like in like money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Yeah, obviously you're not cut. There's no stuff

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<v Speaker 2>you have to pay for.

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<v Speaker 1>Ninety percent of that goes back into the business and

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<v Speaker 1>That's the other thing that all these TikTok influencers and

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<v Speaker 1>instagram reels. Anytime you see these people being like I

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<v Speaker 1>got into drop shipping and I'm making tens of thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars. I've had friends send it to me and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh my god, is this legit? It is

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<v Speaker 1>trust me on paper. Yes, we made one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty thousand in profits last year, but do you know

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<v Speaker 1>all that money has to go back into getting more inventory,

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<v Speaker 1>Like there are so ads to put at the ship storage. Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon does so much of it. But like, no, you

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<v Speaker 1>were not pocketing one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just not. So don't go into a game like that

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<v Speaker 1>thinking like you're gonna be walking away with it, like

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<v Speaker 1>I've made very little return on it. But it's more

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<v Speaker 1>the investment that like it's up and running now to

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<v Speaker 1>where it's like an actual product that we sell and

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<v Speaker 1>it's making money.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, obviously there's the long game, right Like you weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>You didn't started thinking, oh, we're gonna make a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars this year and retire or something exactly. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of those accounts on Instagram or TikTok or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is how you can retire and just have

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<v Speaker 2>passive income for the rest of your life. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>It ain't happening. It ain't happening. You really got to

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<v Speaker 1>like work. And again, it's getting to a spot where

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<v Speaker 1>once we now have enough inventory, we have a place

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<v Speaker 1>to store them, like now we can actually keep more

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<v Speaker 1>of the money moving forward. But yeah, you need to

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<v Speaker 1>like really, there is no easy way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ali Baba. Yes, sells a lot of products that are

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<v Speaker 1>super popular, and you can do the drop shipping thing,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta work a lot to make it actually do.

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<v Speaker 2>Even with something like job shipping, even if it's something

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<v Speaker 2>where you don't need to hold on to the inventory

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, you've got to let people know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So true, and that's our thing now is with like

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<v Speaker 1>TikTok and Instagram and trying to get into that whole

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<v Speaker 1>advertising space. There's like several jobs that you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do on top of like again the full time job

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already doing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the crazy thing about doing what we're doing here

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of like independent creators with you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>Carl Ray Anthony Show, on Twitch and YouTube. Now the

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<v Speaker 2>Morning Show podcast. It's again we create this content every day,

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<v Speaker 2>but then there's also all the other stuff we have

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<v Speaker 2>to do. Right, we have meetings with clients in our

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<v Speaker 2>and we have we signed with a company that sells

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<v Speaker 2>our podcast is similar to what you know the Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>podcast network does, and you know, there's meetings with them

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<v Speaker 2>and making sure they have what they need and they

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<v Speaker 2>you know, doing all the promos and just there's so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the amount of time I spend doing engineering

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<v Speaker 2>stuff mm hmm, that like engineer Jeff would do for

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<v Speaker 2>you guys out of time I do. That is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the interesting thing is you you know,

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<v Speaker 2>anyone who starts their own business at any point, there's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a laundry list of things you can complain

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<v Speaker 2>about mm hmm. But it's also very fulfilling. For it's

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<v Speaker 2>all fun, like learning all the new things you have

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<v Speaker 2>to want to learn, really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. And it's also just like taking a

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<v Speaker 1>leap of faith and believing in yourself to a point

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<v Speaker 1>just to say, like if it fails, it's on me,

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<v Speaker 1>but if it succeeds, it's also on me. So like

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a really cool to your point, like learning

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<v Speaker 1>experience just to say, like, oh my god, I took

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<v Speaker 1>something as stupid as a koozie with two of my friends, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and sold as much as we have And like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if it flops, it's whatever. The learning experience behind it

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<v Speaker 1>has just been the best part.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think, from like a technical standpoint, is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the coolest things you've learned how to do now.

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<v Speaker 1>Again, I think it's just like putting it in order

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<v Speaker 1>and just figuring out the whole back end process to it,

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<v Speaker 1>like you look at I'm sure your friends who like

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<v Speaker 1>also in the Roosevelts could say the same thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you have an idea and you think to yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a mountain to climb. I will never

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<v Speaker 1>be able to get it done. There's too many steps involved.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you just need to find the right supplier.

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<v Speaker 1>You really just need to like idate what your idea

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<v Speaker 1>is and figure out like, okay, like this is what

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<v Speaker 1>it is, and then just you can put the pieces

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<v Speaker 1>together fairly simply. Like there's a lot of I think

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<v Speaker 1>doubt that comes into and I'm sure you've experienced this

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing there's a lot of doubt that can

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<v Speaker 1>creep in and be like should I be doing this?

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<v Speaker 1>Should I start from scratch? Can I do it easier?

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<v Speaker 1>But once you kind of start get up and running,

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<v Speaker 1>you just say to yourself, like there is no point

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<v Speaker 1>in doubting yourself, Like just keep going until you're told

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<v Speaker 1>to stop. That's my biggest thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I mean to your point, like the I've

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<v Speaker 2>gotten to see basically the Rows of Else take their

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<v Speaker 2>company from just an idea in our apartment before they

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<v Speaker 2>even had a website, and grow it to a level

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<v Speaker 2>where I think they have thirty something employees now, it's insane,

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<v Speaker 2>have deals with Marvel and Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Every single company. And yeah, along the way, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there were doubts. Sure there were times where they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>making money. Originally they knew that they had to keep

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feeding the beast until it got going. And

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<v Speaker 2>I mean their original office was my apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>There was actually so my apartment. And for those that

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, Andrew and I lived, you never lived in

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<v Speaker 2>the apartment with me, right on an illustrator.

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<v Speaker 1>I took your old room when you moved out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so in that apartment, the very end room where

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<v Speaker 2>Josh used to live, that used to be Steve from

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<v Speaker 2>the Roosevelt's room. Steve had a girlfriend at the time

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<v Speaker 2>who lived in our apartment literally next door. So when

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<v Speaker 2>they launched the Roosevelts, there was a time where Steve

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<v Speaker 2>cleared out his own bedroom turned it into an office.

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<v Speaker 2>And essentially he wasn't homeless obviously, because he had a

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<v Speaker 2>place for all his stuff and he slept in our apartment,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did not have a bedroom. He turned it

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<v Speaker 2>into an office and that's where they started everything out.

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<v Speaker 1>Of Wow, and that's wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the commitment you have to kind of have

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<v Speaker 2>if you're especially if you're going to make it your

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<v Speaker 2>full time job. Like, yeah, he left his full time

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<v Speaker 2>job with co Ed magazine. John left his full time

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<v Speaker 2>job and I think part time was working for his

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<v Speaker 2>dad's demolition company just to make sure he had enough money.

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<v Speaker 2>And these they both took a chance on themselves and

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<v Speaker 2>their ideas and said screw it, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's wild. It's like really inspiring to hear too,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like, again, I have friends who have wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to start things, Yeah, and they put so much doubt

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<v Speaker 1>in themselves to be like, well it's impossible to start

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<v Speaker 1>on not even gonna try. And I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>was that way for a very long time. Like even

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<v Speaker 1>with podcasting with Scott, I'm like, no, nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>hear what I'm saying anyway. But really, once you like

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<v Speaker 1>have that little spark of just being like, hmm, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I can do more than what I think I can,

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<v Speaker 1>that's when you're really like, oh, there's so much in

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<v Speaker 1>front of you. Why not take advantage of it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't just sit on the sidelines of your own life.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the way I see it, too, is all the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that you're learning now, even if I mean, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>if you can sell enough brew pants to retire and

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<v Speaker 2>make millions, yeah, I would like to see nothing more

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<v Speaker 2>than that. But even if that doesn't happen, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you realize down the road, hey, you know what, we're

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<v Speaker 2>making some money, but it's probably not worth the effort

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<v Speaker 2>or the storage or whatever. All the things you've learned

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<v Speaker 2>to put this together make whatever you do even better

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<v Speaker 2>next time. You are, as a worker, as a creative,

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<v Speaker 2>as what a partner, are going to be so much

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<v Speaker 2>much more valuable in whatever that next step is because

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to understand this whole new thing. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way Carl the Mara and I have looked at

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<v Speaker 2>what we've done with you know, independent broadcasting, if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>independent content creation is you know, we would if the

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<v Speaker 2>right opportunity became available, we would jump back into morning

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<v Speaker 2>radio in a second, because I legitimately loved when that

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<v Speaker 2>studio door was closed and we had our space and

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<v Speaker 2>our you know that the airwaves if you will, and

0:27:31.240 --> 0:27:34.520
<v Speaker 2>our callers that there was nothing greater for me now

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<v Speaker 2>when that studio door opened and you have to do

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all of the other stuff. There were some issues,

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<v Speaker 2>but all the stuff that we're doing now, learning how

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, livestream on different platforms, and learning how

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<v Speaker 2>to use different tools cameras, lighting, figuring out this podcast

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<v Speaker 2>that we've built and which we just celebrated the two

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<v Speaker 2>year anniversary of the Morning Show podcast, and growing that

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, and growing that all of those things is

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<v Speaker 2>if we were to get back into traditional media, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we have so many tools now that we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>or didn't fully understand when we were doing it four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. Yeah, it's exactly that. It's like you have

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<v Speaker 1>such a vast knowledge of kind of like what the

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>current media landscape is that if you were to jump

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<v Speaker 1>into like a radio job full time, it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>that's a non negotiable for you, where if.

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<v Speaker 2>We've sorry, no you go, I was gonna say. We

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<v Speaker 2>have had conversations with radio companies and stuff, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>always the thing that we protect the most. And with

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>some radio executives it might scare them, or they don't

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't even want to say it scare them. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand it, so it's not a path they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to go down, which is absolutely there, right mm hm,

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:51.000
<v Speaker 2>And some some radio executives are saying, yeah, absolutely, you

0:28:51.000 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you built that thing. Why would we stop you from

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<v Speaker 2>continuing it? You know, this is that's something that's going

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 2>to help us down the road because now you have

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<v Speaker 2>this national audio and that you can bring wherever you

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<v Speaker 2>happen to go. And the right deal hasn't necessarily like

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<v Speaker 2>popped up yet. But even with the podcast company that

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.800
<v Speaker 2>we work with at the moment, one of the reasons

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 2>we signed with them was because we still own all

0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>of our own stuff and that was super important to us.

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>And if you ever build something, you know how important

0:29:21.880 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it is for you to own that thing that you build.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless someone comes and signs to a fat check, here

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.520
<v Speaker 2>you go, because trust me, if there are enough zeros,

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<v Speaker 2>I would sell the shit out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, don't worry, Okay, that's yeah, Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to kind of see how much you're capable of

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<v Speaker 1>when you're forced to kind of like go outside of

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>your comfort zone to a degree. Yeah, but it's all

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<v Speaker 1>super encouraging.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think people also need to give themselves time

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 2>to be creative. Like sometimes if I'm if I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a rut and i feel like I've just been like

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<v Speaker 2>being a little task rabbit, right like just checking things

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<v Speaker 2>off the list, I'll just go for a drive because

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.920
<v Speaker 2>legally and responsible, you're not supposed to do a lot

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>of other things when you drive, so you when I

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>drive my I can let my mind wander a little bit,

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to being in the house or being in

0:30:19.400 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>the office where there's always like something to do. And

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.800
<v Speaker 2>I'm the type of person that needs to let my

0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:30.080
<v Speaker 2>mind wander to think of new ideas and be creative.

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<v Speaker 2>And anytime someone tells me they're in a rut, just

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<v Speaker 2>go for a drive. Try it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe it doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you're still in a rut. Maybe you're in a

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<v Speaker 2>worse we're already get back. I can't promise anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's you just needed to break up the monotony

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<v Speaker 2>of scheduling and accomplishing tasks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. That's my biggest problem is like I can fall

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 1>into patterns where I'm just like I want to do nothing,

0:30:54.160 --> 0:30:56.479
<v Speaker 1>Like my brain needs to just be off. But then

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I keep it in the off, but like switch for

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<v Speaker 1>too long, and then I'm like I have to encourage

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<v Speaker 1>myself to do things again, and I hate it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. But my barber explained this term that I

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>wasn't aware of before. But we were talking about a

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.680
<v Speaker 2>video game. Do you ever this was the wildest trend

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 2>in video games. It was a year or year and

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<v Speaker 2>a half ago. Have you ever played the power Washer game?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yes, I have House Flipper. It's literally the exact

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:27.200
<v Speaker 1>same thing. It's called house Flipper.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I've not played house Flipper. It's played that one.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So house Flipper is literally like you walk into

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:35.959
<v Speaker 1>the house, you have to pick up the garbage, you

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.520
<v Speaker 1>need to paint, the walls you need and all you're

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:41.560
<v Speaker 1>doing is literally just like paint the wall. You just click,

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you walk over, you pick up the trash, you just

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:47.520
<v Speaker 1>click it. It's like it's almost like doing just monotonous

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 1>tasks and you could spend thirty forty minutes just like

0:31:50.880 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>focusing on cleaning the house, putting things where they need

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:57.959
<v Speaker 1>to be. It's just there is no real challenge to it.

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<v Speaker 1>There is really really no objective. It's just like focusing

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<v Speaker 1>on getting the tasks done and for and for.

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<v Speaker 2>People who don't know power washer, it's it's kind of similar.

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:11.800
<v Speaker 2>You're literally a powerasher, like the big hose that cleans things,

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:14.120
<v Speaker 2>and you just you can pick whatever thing like I

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 2>picked a playground and you just take your mouse and

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>you clean like you use the power hose or the

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:23.320
<v Speaker 2>power washer, and you clean like the jungle gym, and

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>then you clean the bench and then you clean and

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a little more nuance because you could pick

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.160
<v Speaker 2>like different nozzles and hoses and then stuff like that.

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 2>But the reason I bring that up is my my

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<v Speaker 2>uh barber was telling me about the game and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, man, this sounds real dumb, and he's like, no,

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>it is. That's the whole point. It's really dumb, but

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:46.120
<v Speaker 2>you have to try it, and he goes. It allows

0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:50.160
<v Speaker 2>your lizard brain to work where you can just kind

0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:55.840
<v Speaker 2>of sit there. You're doing an activity but it's not hard,

0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>and you're you're you kind of like zone out and

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.080
<v Speaker 2>you do that thing. And I think everyone needs to

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 2>do that at some point in your day. You need

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 2>to let your brain kind of go into lizard mode.

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>I love that and just like reset a little bit.

0:33:07.560 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I love lizard mode. I'm gonna start using that. I've

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>I sometimes my friends and I would call it bunny time.

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:16.600
<v Speaker 1>His bunny time, So bunnies like when there's just say,

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:20.920
<v Speaker 1>petting Zoo's at schools my friend's principle, so they he's

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>like a crazy principle. He gets like petting Zoo's circuses

0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.200
<v Speaker 1>like you name it. He's like all about the kids. Yeah,

0:33:27.200 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>he's a great, great principle, but he came here. Yeah

0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I would love that, so he But the problem is

0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the bunnies can't they can do twenty minutes at a time.

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>You cannot leave the bunnies with constant stimulation for longer

0:33:43.920 --> 0:33:46.000
<v Speaker 1>than twenty minutes. So you have to take them and

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>they have to kind of just be like zoned out

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:52.120
<v Speaker 1>for a couple of minutes before they're reintegrated. So it's

0:33:52.120 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>bunny time.

0:33:54.240 --> 0:33:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I love that. He just needs to be by themselves,

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 2>recharge their batteries a little bit. Yeah, and then they're

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>back out into the world.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:03.720
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, just a little bit of recharging, a little bit

0:34:03.720 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>of bunny time.

0:34:04.800 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Do we know how much time it takes to recharge

0:34:06.680 --> 0:34:07.160
<v Speaker 2>a bunny?

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.960
<v Speaker 1>I do not. Actually I could ask him, but I

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 1>would love to find that out. Yeah, I'll I ask.

0:34:12.520 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll get back to you on that one. I also

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:18.040
<v Speaker 1>have this new thing. It's called I Gotta eat like yesterday.

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:20.640
<v Speaker 1>It's called a books pama. Also, what the hell is

0:34:20.680 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that thing that? Why is that bubble there? Anyway, it's

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a books Palma.

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 2>We live streaming this. Where did that thumbs down button

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 2>come from?

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I think Zoom added that in where if you put

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.680
<v Speaker 1>things up for like long periods of time. Now, yeah,

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 1>they do that.

0:34:32.640 --> 0:34:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Whoa, yeah, so what if I put my hand up

0:34:36.200 --> 0:34:40.440
<v Speaker 2>for a while? Does that? I don't know, just the

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>thumbs down that's the only thing Zoom has integrated.

0:34:42.760 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I know that if they do the same thing on

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>FaceTime calls. But yeah, weird. So it's a books pama.

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:52.319
<v Speaker 1>It's smaller than a kindle because my biggest thing is

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to read more, but I hate the size

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>of the kindle, and I also don't want to carry

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>a giant book around, you know what I'm saying.

0:35:01.360 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Obviously, it's like it's like the uh, paper white screening, right,

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 2>so it's not like your actual phone screen. Yeah, it's like,

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>oh man, that's cool. How much is that thing?

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Two seventy?

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay worth it because it kindles like one hundred.

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>But what's wild is you could also put apps on it,

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:18.960
<v Speaker 1>so like I can play my music, it can run

0:35:19.040 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>full video. And it's wild because it's literally like a

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:23.200
<v Speaker 1>paper white like Kindle screen.

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. I kind of love that thing.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I do too. And it has a camera, which is

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 1>wild too because it's like, why would I ever want

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.320
<v Speaker 1>a kindle white photo of myself?

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:35.759
<v Speaker 2>But so if you take pictures on that camera and

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:37.319
<v Speaker 2>you transfer it somewhere.

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Else, yeah, it comes out like eating.

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Like it's on that screen.

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Okay, it's wild.

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that's a weird way where they like make it

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>a real picture later on.

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>As far as I know, I haven't tried transferring it.

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 1>I could try and see what happens. But yeah, but I.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.839
<v Speaker 2>Want to give you a theory speaking of pictures, go

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.360
<v Speaker 2>for it. So I do love that thing, and I

0:35:57.440 --> 0:35:58.880
<v Speaker 2>might have to look into one for myself.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:35:59.760
<v Speaker 1>No, fantastic.

0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:01.399
<v Speaker 2>You don't need you don't need more things.

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.319
<v Speaker 1>And it's about your phone size. That's the best part

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>because now I can literally just travel with these two things.

0:36:07.640 --> 0:36:10.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's like now when I want to just read

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>on the train, I can literally go distraction free and say, great,

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 1>now let me just read my book and I don't

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:17.799
<v Speaker 1>have to worry or care about anything.

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.799
<v Speaker 2>No notifications or anything like that. No, that's great. I

0:36:20.800 --> 0:36:23.440
<v Speaker 2>do want to bring up because you mentioned pictures. Yeah,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you would appreciate this theory or this

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 2>new discussion that is now out there in this social

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 2>media world. What is a picture? Now? Hear me out.

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 2>The reason people are having this discussion now is because

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:45.400
<v Speaker 2>whether you have an iPhone, a Google phone, like a pixel,

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:51.240
<v Speaker 2>a Samsung, there's so much artificial intelligence and filtering that's

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>done even if you don't ask it to with your photo.

0:36:55.800 --> 0:36:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Like when you use an iPhone, it's take it's snapping

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 2>that photo, right, it's processing all of that information and

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:09.439
<v Speaker 2>then it's running it through filters, algorithms, processing to make

0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it the best picture possible. Okay, so now people are

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 2>starting to think, well, what is a real picture? How

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>do we like what constitutes a picture? Now? Because with

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 2>the pixel phone the one I have, I mean I

0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:27.240
<v Speaker 2>can remove things from the background, I can move people's

0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:30.399
<v Speaker 2>from where they are in the picture. Yeah, and it's

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 2>cleaning up the photo as it's taking it. So that's

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>not actually the thing that I see. Even if I

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>just press the shutter button and take that, that is

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 2>not the actual image that I pointed my camera at.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 1>Huh. I've never thought of that. That's like really interesting.

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Do we have pictures anymore? What do we and what

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 1>do we call these things that we now have? Hmm?

0:37:52.760 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've recently gone back to my digital camera. Cool,

0:37:56.600 --> 0:37:58.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm like trying to go back to it. I have

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>this like old school retro one that's like old school

0:38:00.880 --> 0:38:04.719
<v Speaker 1>digital where it doesn't even have a screen. Ooh yeah,

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and you could plug it into your phone and you

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>could copy everything over. But like you can just take

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.839
<v Speaker 1>a million pictures. Yeah, but you don't know what you're

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>actually taking until you plug in your phone. That's cool,

0:38:14.000 --> 0:38:15.920
<v Speaker 1>or plug in the camera. But then I also have

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 1>a really good LIKEO one. But I agree with you,

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.799
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting because it's like, yeah, the image is so

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:25.400
<v Speaker 1>processed by the time you're actually seeing it exactly. Everything's

0:38:25.440 --> 0:38:27.399
<v Speaker 1>in portrait mode now, so that means they like lighten

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>up your face, the background, they blur whatever. It's like,

0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 1>that's not the real thing.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean. I saw an ad for a picture for

0:38:34.280 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 2>one of the pixel phones. I think it's the newest

0:38:35.840 --> 0:38:39.839
<v Speaker 2>one where someone was like tossing their baby in the air,

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 2>like on the beach, and they moved the baby higher.

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

0:38:43.560 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 2>In the picture, it's like, well, that's not the original picture,

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>but you can pass it off as the picture because

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 2>all of the data that was processed and uploaded it

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 2>makes it look like that was the original photo. I

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>guess that what it was like a podcast from c

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 2>neet or one of like the nerds the platforms that

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:06.879
<v Speaker 2>I follow, they said, the only thing that really constitutes

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.760
<v Speaker 2>as a picture now is if you take a video

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 2>and pull a frame from that video. Wow, or something

0:39:15.200 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 2>along those lines. But I don't know what we're gonna like,

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:21.240
<v Speaker 2>what are what's what's the next generation coming up? Alpha?

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:39:22.239 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 2>What are they gonna even think pictures.

0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Are Yeah, that's wild because by the time you're seeing it,

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>it's so wildly edited and processed and changed up. It's like,

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:32.520
<v Speaker 1>that's not the original photo. It's not like film.

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'm not I for the record, what I'm

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.359
<v Speaker 2>telling you guys this. I know this sounds like a

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.560
<v Speaker 2>very high conversation. But where I am right now, it's

0:39:40.600 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 2>eight forty five in the morning. I don't even smoke.

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:46.720
<v Speaker 1>So wow, that's.

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.320
<v Speaker 2>That's a good plant for the weekend.

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I will. That's a good thought. Thank you for that, Anthony,

0:39:51.280 --> 0:39:51.759
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:39:52.120 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Is a photo? What qualifies or constitutes as a photo

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 2>these days?

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 1>I've loved that. I never actually thought of that. That's

0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 1>very interesting.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Even if you don't do anything, your phone is still

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:03.279
<v Speaker 2>doing it on Like, even if you don't ask your

0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:04.279
<v Speaker 2>phone to.

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Process it, it still is.

0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:09.399
<v Speaker 2>Naturally based on the technology in your your phone, it's

0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:10.800
<v Speaker 2>going to do something different.

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:13.640
<v Speaker 1>And that's wild too. Now with like all this Apple

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Vision Pro stuff, because that has a million and one cameras,

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.479
<v Speaker 1>but how you're viewing it through the lens is also

0:40:19.600 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>wildly different too.

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Yep. I haven't played with a vision Pro, have you ever?

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Had one of the VR headsets.

0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had a PlayStation VR. It was so fun.

0:40:30.080 --> 0:40:32.680
<v Speaker 1>I love the play station OG Yeah, I still have

0:40:32.760 --> 0:40:35.600
<v Speaker 1>that one. I don't the novelty of VR kind of

0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>wears off for me because it's like you just get

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:41.040
<v Speaker 1>nauseated by the cameras. The vision pro interests me because

0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm like I can do like augmented reality, Like I

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:46.160
<v Speaker 1>love that, Like the thought of like being able to

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 1>WEARK goggles right now and it's like, Okay, I could

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:50.040
<v Speaker 1>see you in front of me, but I could look

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 1>at my texts over here and I'm still in my room.

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.440
<v Speaker 1>Like I like that better than VR, where it's like

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I have to be in a whole new.

0:40:56.800 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 2>Place until they until they get to something that's a

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:04.880
<v Speaker 2>little more similar to like a pair.

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Of glasses Google glass, yea something like that.

0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.480
<v Speaker 2>And even that one like looked weird. Yeah you know,

0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to just look like a pair of readers.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 1>Contact lens content where you can't even see it.

0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 2>That's like some spy stuff.

0:41:17.640 --> 0:41:21.400
<v Speaker 1>That is some spy stuff. That's where it's a dystopian future, yeah,

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:22.080
<v Speaker 1>which where I.

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Mean, we're this close, but it's like a dystopian I

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't call it a future. It's like dystopian. Two weeks

0:41:29.880 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 2>is basically where we're at.

0:41:30.680 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 1>It this pretty much.

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:35.560
<v Speaker 2>And yes, for those people at home, I know that

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:37.280
<v Speaker 2>two weeks is also in the future.

0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:39.839
<v Speaker 1>To the record, well, you know, there is that whole

0:41:39.840 --> 0:41:41.760
<v Speaker 1>doomsday clock and that's tick ticking away.

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>So I would love, like write I would. I'm trying

0:41:46.000 --> 0:41:48.080
<v Speaker 2>to think of like a real world application. A The

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 2>easiest thing is if you go to a new country

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>and it just translates everything in front of you. Sure,

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.000
<v Speaker 2>when you're reading a street sign, like when we were

0:41:55.000 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>in Taiwan. Yeah, there were some street signs or some

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.319
<v Speaker 2>signs that were in English, but generally most of them

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:01.520
<v Speaker 2>were not. Yeah, it would have been great to just

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 2>look around as a tourist. Yeah, oh my god, I

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.800
<v Speaker 2>could read everything here. But I think, like this is

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the nerdiest thing ever when we were When we're on Twitch,

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:14.400
<v Speaker 2>one of the things we have to do is always

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 2>check the live streaming chat as it goes through. It'd

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.360
<v Speaker 2>be awesome to have a pair of glasses where I

0:42:20.400 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>could see maybe on one eye, the chat screen and

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 2>now it's just always in front of me and I

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:29.040
<v Speaker 2>can like look around. I can talk to Carl and Ree,

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>I can pull stuff up on the screen and I

0:42:30.840 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 2>can still know what the audience is saying the whole time.

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what's wild. Is that what the is like

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.560
<v Speaker 1>basically what the vision pro could do, but you have

0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>to still looks ridiculous exactly. And then you're gonna be live

0:42:39.680 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>streaming with a giant thing of goggles on it and

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.480
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna be like Anthony Good and those fake

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:46.920
<v Speaker 1>AI eyes that they give you on the glasses are

0:42:46.960 --> 0:42:48.040
<v Speaker 1>also not working for me.

0:42:48.239 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's no one should ever walk around with that.

0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I do have the Oculus, the first version of the

0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Oculus that came out, and there are some fun games,

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a game and I haven't played it in

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 2>probably a year, but it's called Elvin Assassin and you're

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:03.719
<v Speaker 2>an Elf and you've got a little bow and arrow

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 2>and you just you're on a tower and you just

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 2>gotta kill like these ogres as they come through, and

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>they come through in waves and that's it. You just

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.480
<v Speaker 2>keep going until more and more come through. And I

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 2>could spend hours playing that game.

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:16.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a more violent version of your power cleaning game,

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:18.960
<v Speaker 1>but it also is giving you your bunny time.

0:43:19.320 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And but it's also physical because you're you're getting up.

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<v Speaker 2>I will this is gonna sound so lame. I will

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<v Speaker 2>be sweating at the end of that game. M well,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you by putting your arms in this motion and

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of like drawing the fake string back because

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do all of that, yeah, and letting

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<v Speaker 2>it go.

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<v Speaker 1>They have VR workout classes like that is a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I've done a beat saber.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I've always wanted to. That always looks so fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. And for people who don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about beat Saber, if you remember the game

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<v Speaker 2>Fruit Ninja mm hmm, where you have to slice the

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<v Speaker 2>fruit on your on your mobile phone screen. It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of if you, like, if you took Fruit Ninja and

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<v Speaker 2>Guitar Hero and put them together. That's what beat Saber is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And you're like playing along with the music and you're

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<v Speaker 2>slicing these boxes that come through. You can add packs

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<v Speaker 2>like I have the BTS pack so good as a

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<v Speaker 2>Leady Gaga or not Letty Gaga.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Lincoln Park woo okay, I got.

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<v Speaker 2>A Lincoln bleed it out. Really fun to do, also

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<v Speaker 2>very hard.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're probably sweating so much by the end of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I sweat doing everything, So maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not the best example. I always tell people there's like

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<v Speaker 2>one thing I'm really good at, and that's sweating the

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<v Speaker 2>absolute best.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, wow, I would love to. I would say I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to come over and play it, but I'm worried

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<v Speaker 1>that your headset's going to be drenched, so.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll wipe it down. It's fine, okay, I'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Bring some baby wipes over.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that just concludes. This has been forty five minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe how fast the time went.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like too much? Too little? What did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you did a great job. Usually Skin and I

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<v Speaker 1>have been doing twenty thirty minutes, so you had an

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<v Speaker 1>additional fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's because Scott's lazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure, truth, you're true. He's gonna listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>and he's gonna text both of us and be like

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<v Speaker 1>you digs. Well, thank you so much Anthony for joining me.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, this is awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>This was great, and I hope that you guys all

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<v Speaker 1>have a wonderful weekend. Again. This is just a nice

0:45:06.960 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 1>little bonus Bowl Chat my day, Bowl Chat Day Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>My Bowl Friday, My Bowl Friday. Okay, that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>the cap shit. But thank you all so much for joining.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you on Monday. It's gonna be a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later because we didn't get to record serial Killers

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<v Speaker 1>before we left for break, so but keep listening because

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming, so all right, see you guys on Monday

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<v Speaker 1>for serial Killers. Until then, bye later, see you