Speaker 1: Hello, is this on?
Speaker 2: I believe so you're the one with all the buttons
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I have a giant roadcaster next to me, and I
Speaker 1: press record and it's showing levels and I can see
Speaker 1: Anthony and we are recording. All right, perfect, Welcome to
Speaker 1: bull Chat on a Friday. I know I didn't give
Speaker 1: it to you guys this Wednesday, but I figured why
Speaker 1: not pick up the slack and give you guys some
Speaker 1: extra content.
Speaker 2: Oh so this is just like a bonus episode almost
Speaker 2: or a late episode. How would you consider this mode
Speaker 2: you classified us?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's a late episode because we usually
Speaker 1: do Bulchats on Wednesdays. Also, if you're watching this, yes,
Speaker 1: I am wearing basically what is what do you call it?
Speaker 1: My shawl?
Speaker 2: It's a shawl. It's like a Grandma shaw This.
Speaker 1: Is my grandma shaw My apartment is literally sixty one
Speaker 1: degrees and I refuse to turn on the heat. So
Speaker 1: this is how I'm living but sixty one Yeah, oh no,
Speaker 1: I keep it cold. I don't like what Yeah, And
Speaker 1: what's confusing is my electric bill is still ninety bucks.
Speaker 1: Like I do not turn on the heat.
Speaker 2: What do you run a radio studio out of it
Speaker 2: like you're doing right now. Maybe that's maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not like bitcoin mining or anything. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be making my electric go up to ninety I
Speaker 1: get that bill and I'm like confused. But anyway, yes,
Speaker 1: welcome to a bowl chat on a Friday. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining me, Anthony. I didn't even tell
Speaker 1: Scott I was doing it. I was just like, whatever,
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: Is he gonna be mad?
Speaker 1: No, because he refuses to do the at home thing.
Speaker 1: I've tried several times. So here, what do you mean
Speaker 1: the at home thing? So I am at work, as
Speaker 1: you know, quite late, three four, sometimes five o'clock. I
Speaker 1: wake up, mind people start you start super early too, exactly.
Speaker 1: So my day is very filled. And at ten am.
Speaker 1: When we used to record before I had a million
Speaker 1: and one jobs, it was fine, easy, but now it
Speaker 1: is not so easy because I am doing ten million
Speaker 1: jobs after ten I've told Scott a million and one times, hey,
Speaker 1: we really got to figure something out. Let's record bull
Speaker 1: chats from home. We don't even need cereal. And he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, dead life. So basically his.
Speaker 2: Kids do things like that. It's not like he has
Speaker 2: to watch them all the time. It's not that he's
Speaker 2: not They're not infants.
Speaker 1: People do not want to hear this from me, So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep it chugging. But basically, I have
Speaker 1: my road cast you here at home. I can be recording.
Speaker 1: So here I am delivering content to my fantastic audience.
Speaker 2: Well, and I don't listen. I'm not here to throw
Speaker 2: you under the bus or anything, Andrew. But I just
Speaker 2: want to point out, since this is the late episode,
Speaker 2: it's not late because of me.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. It is late because of me.
Speaker 1: But you know what, we're still providing it on a Friday,
Speaker 1: So it's a fun little bonus episode. We love that.
Speaker 2: This is kind of like an episode or a podcast
Speaker 2: that used to be on the Elvis Durand network.
Speaker 1: Called Oh my God, My Day Friday, My.
Speaker 2: Day Friday, It's Andy's Day Friday.
Speaker 1: It's bull Chat semi colon My Day.
Speaker 2: Friday, My bull Chat Friday.
Speaker 1: There we go, done, easy, great?
Speaker 2: So what do we do here on the bull Chat?
Speaker 1: You know, basically it's just like a life episode. You
Speaker 1: just chat about live, just do a little quick chit chat.
Speaker 2: So is the whole the whole morning show was on
Speaker 2: vacation this past week.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I was not on vacation this week.
Speaker 2: What were you actually working or you chose not to travel,
Speaker 2: so we're both.
Speaker 1: I wanted to go to Florida, but then I had
Speaker 1: a couple of different podcasts recordings, so I was like,
Speaker 1: I'll just stay home and it was actually really nice.
Speaker 1: I caught up on a lot of sleep, a ton
Speaker 1: of sleep, which was exactly what was needed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't been obviously in the morning radio routine
Speaker 2: a long time. We still do our morning show, but
Speaker 2: we don't start until eight because it's an hour long
Speaker 2: and it's not like we have breaks. So we do
Speaker 2: a full hour of content on Twitch and then we
Speaker 2: have the morning Show podcast. But that schedule, when you
Speaker 2: wake up at four thirty four forty five five o'clock
Speaker 2: and you're at work and you're you're chugging along, yes,
Speaker 2: one six o'clock rolls, I mean that train is leaving
Speaker 2: the station and you are going one hundred miles an hour.
Speaker 2: I think that's what people don't understand about the more
Speaker 2: show life is when you show up, you can very
Speaker 2: rarely have an off day or quiet day. Right like
Speaker 2: when my brother was working for. It was like some
Speaker 2: online services telemarketing company. You know, there were days that
Speaker 2: he could show up hungover, throw his headphones on and
Speaker 2: no one bothered him for the whole day. That doesn't work,
Speaker 2: although we do throw headphones on obviously, that does not
Speaker 2: work in morning radio because you are on.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like entering like a pressure cooker. Like the
Speaker 1: minute you get there, it's just like constant action talking.
Speaker 1: Things are always happening, so it's like yeah a lot so.
Speaker 2: And that show specifically, it's it's like being strapped into
Speaker 2: a roller coaster. Right, everything's kind of calm until the
Speaker 2: mic opens at six o'clock and you don't know where
Speaker 2: you're going. That thing is whipping you around, and there's
Speaker 2: a bunch of things you got to do, and then
Speaker 2: it comes to an end at what nine to fifty one? Right, nine?
Speaker 2: What's the exact time? N nine for one, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: it's like the roller coaster stops. You kind of jerk
Speaker 2: forward a little bit and you look around.
Speaker 1: You're like, I made it, we did it, yeah, and
Speaker 1: then let's let's do this again tomorrow. And then there's
Speaker 1: like also so many like little side things that happen
Speaker 1: after the show now that I'm involved with. And so
Speaker 1: it's like the roller coaster just keeps on chug chugging,
Speaker 1: and I'm just.
Speaker 2: Are you allowed to talk about all the different podcasts
Speaker 2: that like you work on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there's a whole bunch of them. It's
Speaker 1: I'm on, Oh that is bright light. I'm gonna turn
Speaker 1: that off because that is too much.
Speaker 2: I thought looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: Thank god, it doesn't.
Speaker 2: It gives you, like some some side lighting looks very dramatic.
Speaker 2: Everyone should be watching YouTube, right damn, okay, just fix
Speaker 2: my So something I see on on reels all the
Speaker 2: time because I follow a bunch of video editors and stuff.
Speaker 2: This is how you do dramatic lighting. You put one
Speaker 2: light to your left and that's it. Like that's a
Speaker 2: You made that sound much more involved than it really was.
Speaker 1: I will actually say this looks good.
Speaker 2: I think it looks good, looks very dramatic.
Speaker 1: Damn, thank you? Oh wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I work on like a bunch of different shows,
Speaker 1: like at least nine of them at last last notice
Speaker 1: or last check in. So that is a lot. And
Speaker 1: so like you said, come ten am when Scott's like
Speaker 1: standing by my desk and it's like, hmm, I'm like,
Speaker 1: can you just be available at two pm from your
Speaker 1: house because that could work for me. I'll be home
Speaker 1: at two.
Speaker 2: Kids still in school at two pm. Listen, I don't
Speaker 2: have to worry. I don't have to worry about kids
Speaker 2: or picking them up or dropping them off, worrying about
Speaker 2: there after school extra.
Speaker 1: And he's a great dad, so I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: knock him. He's a fantastic dad.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just asking are they in school at
Speaker 2: that time?
Speaker 1: Dad? Life bro okay anyway? So yeah, just a lot
Speaker 1: going on, but hey, we're here, we're providing a nice show.
Speaker 1: My question is how has your sleep schedule been, Like
Speaker 1: do you feel like, would you ever go back to
Speaker 1: morning radio hours?
Speaker 2: Because you know, I absolutely would, people actually would.
Speaker 1: I've seen several instagrams where people are like, here's my
Speaker 1: wake up routine. You want to wake up at four thirty.
Speaker 1: I'm like, as someone who doesn't get to choose, just
Speaker 1: has to, no, you should not wake up at four
Speaker 1: thirty and read like a meditation package and give yourself
Speaker 1: an hour of breathing work like, no, stay asleep, get
Speaker 1: all the sleep you can.
Speaker 2: I think most of those people that do that, right,
Speaker 2: the people who are filming themselves in the morning and
Speaker 2: telling everyone else how to live a I think they're
Speaker 2: absolutely full of garbage. Yeah. Secondly, they're not usually doing
Speaker 2: public facing jobs as early as morning radio is. I
Speaker 2: think that's the biggest difference, right. Sure, you can ease
Speaker 2: into your day, Yeah, wake up at whatever time you
Speaker 2: want if you've got If you want to waste three
Speaker 2: hours or do things for three hours, that's that's great
Speaker 2: before work. But to do that in your job, you'd
Speaker 2: have to be up at three. Yeah, Like it's crazy. No,
Speaker 2: But my my schedule, my sleep schedule, my morning schedule
Speaker 2: has never ever been consistent. It's just not the way
Speaker 2: that I live. Like, Yeah, when I was working morning radio,
Speaker 2: I was at the studio by five point fifteen every morning,
Speaker 2: but I still was It's not like I was going
Speaker 2: to bed early. There were days I'd go to bed
Speaker 2: at twelve. There were days I wouldn't go to bed.
Speaker 2: I'd literally just work through the night and then stay there.
Speaker 1: I've never pulled it on lighter. That is one thing
Speaker 1: I will not do. So many No, for me, it's
Speaker 1: like I don't care if I even get thirty minutes
Speaker 1: of sleep. Like to me, I can run on thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: but like you got to give me that time. I
Speaker 1: will not ever push through without getting at least fifteen
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, because that is enough for my brain to
Speaker 1: just be like psh good.
Speaker 2: I would actually prefer to not get the thirty. I
Speaker 2: feel like the thirty messes me up. No, No, really,
Speaker 2: it got to a point, especially when I was doing
Speaker 2: morning radio, that if I was working late enough, like
Speaker 2: let's say I was working till two thirty or three,
Speaker 2: if I knew I was going to get less than
Speaker 2: two hours of sleep, I just wouldn't sleep. No, But
Speaker 2: it's the way that I normally. It's the way that
Speaker 2: I've always been able to work. I'm a procrastinator, so
Speaker 2: I can leave a lot of things to the last
Speaker 2: moment and knock it all out. Not a healthy way
Speaker 2: to live. But when I am working on a project,
Speaker 2: I do have the ability to kind of put blinders
Speaker 2: on and just do that thing for hours and hours
Speaker 2: and hours and hours. Then it doesn't bother me. I
Speaker 2: could work for twenty four straight hours, but then I
Speaker 2: will completely unplug and I won't do anything for another
Speaker 2: twelve hours and it's just whatever kind of is in
Speaker 2: front of me. I'll tackle whatever's there and then I'll
Speaker 2: figure everything else out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I enter that, like I could
Speaker 1: be in hyper productive modes. And that's the other problem too.
Speaker 1: Instagram reels is like you may have ADHD, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't think I do, but like thanks for offering
Speaker 1: that advice.
Speaker 2: Like we all have characteristics that might fall into those categories,
Speaker 2: but we're also a hyper fixated population because we do
Speaker 2: have things like TikTok reels, and we can fall down
Speaker 2: every rabbit hole we need to because we have literally
Speaker 2: every piece of information in our hands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so true. I was just having this conversation
Speaker 1: with my mom actually, and they were just talking about
Speaker 1: like the difference in the workforce and also how much
Speaker 1: like things have changed, but like pay has pretty much
Speaker 1: stayed stable. And I'm like, great, because in the eighties
Speaker 1: and nineties, you weren't walking around with literally your work
Speaker 1: on you at all times. Like you literally are now
Speaker 1: expected to work if somebody texts or calls you. And yes,
Speaker 1: you could set your boundaries and you could pretend like
Speaker 1: your laptop is shut at five, but the minute you
Speaker 1: get any email that's like urgent, you'd be the one
Speaker 1: to tell me that you're not going to answer the call.
Speaker 2: I feel like the people that say that there's two categories,
Speaker 2: I think are maybe they're just driven differently than I am,
Speaker 2: m hm right, But b I think there it's usually
Speaker 2: some sort of person who has enough financial resources where
Speaker 2: they don't care. Yeah, it's like, oh, well I just
Speaker 2: shut off or blah blah blah. Yeah, well you could
Speaker 2: do that. It's like, but I can't. I need to
Speaker 2: be available for everyone that needs to because, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: not trying to get fired. I'm trying to make sure
Speaker 2: my clients are happy whatever it is. And it's tough,
Speaker 2: but I do. I am a little envious of that
Speaker 2: the generation, the last generation that was able to like
Speaker 2: go to work and then go home. Yeah, and then
Speaker 2: that was it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy that we never knew life like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know what's funny. I was talking to
Speaker 2: someone last summer and it was a friend who works
Speaker 2: in like the music label space but also works with
Speaker 2: a lot of radio friends that we know, and she
Speaker 2: was saying that she she knows a guy I think
Speaker 2: in either Spokane or Idaho. Spokane Washington or somewhere in Idaho,
Speaker 2: because Spokane's like right on the border. And he used
Speaker 2: to be a radio guy and he was making whatever
Speaker 2: crappy pay the smaller market we're paying. And he was
Speaker 2: a wedding DJ, and he loved being a wedding DJ.
Speaker 2: So he said, you know what, I'm going to continue
Speaker 2: doing this wedding DJ stuff because it actually pays pretty well.
Speaker 2: I mean, granted, you're it's not a lot of work
Speaker 2: because you're generally working two or three days a week,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's enough to sustain you.
Speaker 2: But he then got a job at I believe it
Speaker 2: was Costco, just stocking shelves and do a lot of
Speaker 2: like back end work, not even really working with customers.
Speaker 2: And he's like, it's it's so great because I leave
Speaker 2: work now and it's not like Costco is calling me
Speaker 2: to check on inventory stuff. I just I do my work.
Speaker 2: I unload boxes, I stack shelves, but I need to
Speaker 2: I put things back on trucks or take them off
Speaker 2: and then I go home and they they pay my
Speaker 2: medical bills. It's a really existant paycheck. Yet it's it's
Speaker 2: like a full time job.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: With benefits.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Scott's not bad like Washington State, I
Speaker 2: think is. I think throughout this state it's fifteen dollars
Speaker 2: an hour minimum wage. I know the city is for Seattle,
Speaker 2: but they're paying him enough to live.
Speaker 1: I know. Scott has always said that when the radio
Speaker 1: thing is done for him, he wants to work and
Speaker 1: stock shelves in a supermarket. And all my time I've
Speaker 1: been like, would that just get monotonous after a while,
Speaker 1: But now that you're saying it, where it could just
Speaker 1: it's consistent. You really can just shut your whole brain off,
Speaker 1: like after work. That sounds magical.
Speaker 2: You know how many people I see, whether it's like
Speaker 2: some sort of you know, stocking, cleaning, whatever job, just
Speaker 2: have headphones on. Yeah, it's like you're listening to whatever
Speaker 2: you feel like listening to. Maybe you're listening to a
Speaker 2: podcast and you feel like you're hanging out with your
Speaker 2: friends all day, right, Yeah, maybe you're listening to an
Speaker 2: audiobook and you're just doing a task. Yeah, it's easily identifiable.
Speaker 2: Your boss tells you I need this task done, You
Speaker 2: do it, you.
Speaker 1: Go home, And I'm sure there's stressors to it too,
Speaker 1: where it's kind of like, oh, this person's on my
Speaker 1: ass about making sure it looks super tidy or inventory
Speaker 1: isn'tcounted the right way. But there is something to it
Speaker 1: where you know, you don't have an email address where
Speaker 1: somebody is like going to contact you at like nine
Speaker 1: o'clock at night and be like, hey need this now.
Speaker 2: And there are obviously there are positives and negatives to
Speaker 2: every job, like you said, but I will say, if
Speaker 2: Scott wants to one day be out of radio and
Speaker 2: stock shelves at a grocery store, it will be the neatest,
Speaker 2: best stocked grocery store in the world.
Speaker 1: It will be the best grocery store in the entire country.
Speaker 1: Like they will get awards, metals, even yes.
Speaker 2: Perfectly stocked shelves. I do that now because I worked
Speaker 2: at a deli. It was my first not it was
Speaker 2: my first job that wasn't with my family. And there
Speaker 2: was a deli next door to where I grew up,
Speaker 2: so I worked there when I was like sixteen, and
Speaker 2: maybe even before that. I think it was fourteen or fifteen,
Speaker 2: and one of my jobs was like sweeping the floors,
Speaker 2: mopping the floors in stocking shelves. It's basically took out garbage,
Speaker 2: and I will still stock the fridge at home like
Speaker 2: I used to stock shelves at the deli, where if
Speaker 2: Carla Marie, for example, buys a big case of a
Speaker 2: spin drift or something, it's they're all set up by
Speaker 2: the flavor, the labels are all out, they're perfectly aligned.
Speaker 2: I'll do that with everything.
Speaker 1: Wow, So you're really organized, that's like your thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just helps. I think when things are less cluttered,
Speaker 2: I can think more clearly. I feel like physical clutter
Speaker 2: actually clutters my brain. I don't know if that's like
Speaker 2: a me thing or if that's a common trait. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I feel that way when things are cluttered, I can't focus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like right now, I just have stuff on my counter,
Speaker 1: And I've recently been going through a phase where I'm
Speaker 1: like how much can I get rid of? And like
Speaker 1: how quickly? Because like even now, I'm like my desk
Speaker 1: is so cluttered. I just have so much around me
Speaker 1: that I'm like I need all of it gone, Like
Speaker 1: I just want nothing showing.
Speaker 2: It's crazy how when you really break it down, doesn't
Speaker 2: matter if you're rich poor. It's crazy how much stuff
Speaker 2: we have and that's something carl mari and I especially
Speaker 2: because Carlon Marie moved into her home, her home and
Speaker 2: moved into her home before I moved in, so she
Speaker 2: had a fully set up home. And then I guess
Speaker 2: at this point, it's two years ago I moved in
Speaker 2: with her, and I had all of my stuff, and
Speaker 2: granted I got rid of a lot, yeah, like I
Speaker 2: gave stuff away to friends, I sold stuff on offer up,
Speaker 2: donated some. But combining both of our stuff, we're still
Speaker 2: trying to get through all of.
Speaker 1: It, damn, because there's just so much crap.
Speaker 2: And one of the benefits of this job, whether it's
Speaker 2: morning radio or what we do on the in the
Speaker 2: podcasting live streaming place space is you get free stuff.
Speaker 2: Stuff You're even if you're not going out and buying it,
Speaker 2: you're getting a lot of free stuff and a lot
Speaker 2: of it's like not super valuable, but at the same
Speaker 2: time you're just getting it all the time. Yeah, next
Speaker 2: thing you know, you're just living in a mountain of crap.
Speaker 1: I feel that to my core. And it doesn't help
Speaker 1: that now I have all this koozy stuff, Like I
Speaker 1: have a bag full of koozies. I have a photo
Speaker 1: box because I need to take pictures of every koozy now,
Speaker 1: and it's like it's doing it. Oh yeah, no, we legit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's really really Legit has like a little
Speaker 1: light on the top. I need all these like professional
Speaker 1: pictures taken.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I'm hustling, so I'm just like really trying to get
Speaker 1: that up and running. But in the meantime, it's like,
Speaker 1: my it, the clutter is making me crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to get a good like storage area
Speaker 2: or something. Do you how many koozies are you? Are
Speaker 2: we allowed to use that word? Yeah, but you're not
Speaker 2: allowed to call it that, right, Yeah, that's it. What
Speaker 2: do you call it?
Speaker 1: Okay, So we'll be back right after this. Do Do
Speaker 1: Do Do Do Do, and we're back.
Speaker 2: Great.
Speaker 1: That's like my official commercial music. Okay, so yeah no.
Speaker 2: But teaser that what a te is there? Really hope
Speaker 2: people stay through the commercials.
Speaker 1: So our company is still called Koozy Kings, but our
Speaker 1: new label to actually sell them is called like what
Speaker 1: we're trademarked as is brew Pants.
Speaker 2: That's right. So we're now because there's a company that
Speaker 2: owns the word coozy.
Speaker 1: Koo z i E is technically how you are supposed
Speaker 1: to refer to it, call it that is like a
Speaker 1: licensed in trademarked name, which is insane to me.
Speaker 2: But what if you just spelled it with a C.
Speaker 1: That's what we were doing.
Speaker 2: And still not still not good enough.
Speaker 1: Nope, it's too close to the original.
Speaker 2: Okay, So.
Speaker 1: Trademark law is weird, and they're like, you're selling a
Speaker 1: similar product. Again, I don't think that. They were probably
Speaker 1: thinking that people would sell coozies as much as they are,
Speaker 1: so they were like, oh, yeah, just give them the word.
Speaker 1: It's fine. It's like, how Kylie generated like to try
Speaker 1: to trademark the name Kylie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, so you get trademark a very common name.
Speaker 2: So how many brew pants before the name changed and
Speaker 2: since the name change do you think you've sold? Oh
Speaker 2: you have an exact number?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we literally thousands, like, if not tens of thousands. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: we did just last year alone, and I'll just say
Speaker 1: I don't care. We did one hundred fifty thousand in inventory,
Speaker 1: like in like money.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, obviously you're not cut. There's no stuff
Speaker 2: you have to pay for.
Speaker 1: Ninety percent of that goes back into the business and
Speaker 1: That's the other thing that all these TikTok influencers and
Speaker 1: instagram reels. Anytime you see these people being like I
Speaker 1: got into drop shipping and I'm making tens of thousands
Speaker 1: of dollars. I've had friends send it to me and
Speaker 1: be like, oh my god, is this legit? It is
Speaker 1: trust me on paper. Yes, we made one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty thousand in profits last year, but do you know
Speaker 1: all that money has to go back into getting more inventory,
Speaker 1: Like there are so ads to put at the ship storage. Yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: Amazon does so much of it. But like, no, you
Speaker 1: were not pocketing one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. You're
Speaker 1: just not. So don't go into a game like that
Speaker 1: thinking like you're gonna be walking away with it, like
Speaker 1: I've made very little return on it. But it's more
Speaker 1: the investment that like it's up and running now to
Speaker 1: where it's like an actual product that we sell and
Speaker 1: it's making money.
Speaker 2: And yeah, obviously there's the long game, right Like you weren't.
Speaker 2: You didn't started thinking, oh, we're gonna make a million
Speaker 2: dollars this year and retire or something exactly. A lot
Speaker 2: a lot of those accounts on Instagram or TikTok or whatever,
Speaker 2: like this is how you can retire and just have
Speaker 2: passive income for the rest of your life. That's not
Speaker 2: how that works.
Speaker 1: It ain't happening. It ain't happening. You really got to
Speaker 1: like work. And again, it's getting to a spot where
Speaker 1: once we now have enough inventory, we have a place
Speaker 1: to store them, like now we can actually keep more
Speaker 1: of the money moving forward. But yeah, you need to
Speaker 1: like really, there is no easy way to do it.
Speaker 1: Ali Baba. Yes, sells a lot of products that are
Speaker 1: super popular, and you can do the drop shipping thing,
Speaker 1: but you gotta work a lot to make it actually do.
Speaker 2: Even with something like job shipping, even if it's something
Speaker 2: where you don't need to hold on to the inventory
Speaker 2: or whatever, you've got to let people know about it.
Speaker 1: So true, and that's our thing now is with like
Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram and trying to get into that whole
Speaker 1: advertising space. There's like several jobs that you need to
Speaker 1: do on top of like again the full time job
Speaker 1: I'm already doing.
Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing about doing what we're doing here
Speaker 2: is kind of like independent creators with you know, the
Speaker 2: Carl Ray Anthony Show, on Twitch and YouTube. Now the
Speaker 2: Morning Show podcast. It's again we create this content every day,
Speaker 2: but then there's also all the other stuff we have
Speaker 2: to do. Right, we have meetings with clients in our
Speaker 2: and we have we signed with a company that sells
Speaker 2: our podcast is similar to what you know the Elvis
Speaker 2: podcast network does, and you know, there's meetings with them
Speaker 2: and making sure they have what they need and they
Speaker 2: you know, doing all the promos and just there's so much.
Speaker 2: I mean, the amount of time I spend doing engineering
Speaker 2: stuff mm hmm, that like engineer Jeff would do for
Speaker 2: you guys out of time I do. That is crazy.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: But I think the interesting thing is you you know,
Speaker 2: anyone who starts their own business at any point, there's
Speaker 2: you know, a laundry list of things you can complain
Speaker 2: about mm hmm. But it's also very fulfilling. For it's
Speaker 2: all fun, like learning all the new things you have
Speaker 2: to want to learn, really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And it's also just like taking a
Speaker 1: leap of faith and believing in yourself to a point
Speaker 1: just to say, like if it fails, it's on me,
Speaker 1: but if it succeeds, it's also on me. So like
Speaker 1: it's been a really cool to your point, like learning
Speaker 1: experience just to say, like, oh my god, I took
Speaker 1: something as stupid as a koozie with two of my friends, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and sold as much as we have And like I said,
Speaker 1: if it flops, it's whatever. The learning experience behind it
Speaker 1: has just been the best part.
Speaker 2: What do you think, from like a technical standpoint, is
Speaker 2: one of the coolest things you've learned how to do now.
Speaker 1: Again, I think it's just like putting it in order
Speaker 1: and just figuring out the whole back end process to it,
Speaker 1: like you look at I'm sure your friends who like
Speaker 1: also in the Roosevelts could say the same thing. It's
Speaker 1: like you have an idea and you think to yourself,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a mountain to climb. I will never
Speaker 1: be able to get it done. There's too many steps involved.
Speaker 1: But then you just need to find the right supplier.
Speaker 1: You really just need to like idate what your idea
Speaker 1: is and figure out like, okay, like this is what
Speaker 1: it is, and then just you can put the pieces
Speaker 1: together fairly simply. Like there's a lot of I think
Speaker 1: doubt that comes into and I'm sure you've experienced this
Speaker 1: the same thing there's a lot of doubt that can
Speaker 1: creep in and be like should I be doing this?
Speaker 1: Should I start from scratch? Can I do it easier?
Speaker 1: But once you kind of start get up and running,
Speaker 1: you just say to yourself, like there is no point
Speaker 1: in doubting yourself, Like just keep going until you're told
Speaker 1: to stop. That's my biggest thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean to your point, like the I've
Speaker 2: gotten to see basically the Rows of Else take their
Speaker 2: company from just an idea in our apartment before they
Speaker 2: even had a website, and grow it to a level
Speaker 2: where I think they have thirty something employees now, it's insane,
Speaker 2: have deals with Marvel and Disney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: Every single company. And yeah, along the way, I'm sure
Speaker 2: there were doubts. Sure there were times where they weren't
Speaker 2: making money. Originally they knew that they had to keep
Speaker 2: kind of feeding the beast until it got going. And
Speaker 2: I mean their original office was my apartment.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: There was actually so my apartment. And for those that
Speaker 2: don't know, Andrew and I lived, you never lived in
Speaker 2: the apartment with me, right on an illustrator.
Speaker 1: I took your old room when you moved out.
Speaker 2: Yes, so in that apartment, the very end room where
Speaker 2: Josh used to live, that used to be Steve from
Speaker 2: the Roosevelt's room. Steve had a girlfriend at the time
Speaker 2: who lived in our apartment literally next door. So when
Speaker 2: they launched the Roosevelts, there was a time where Steve
Speaker 2: cleared out his own bedroom turned it into an office.
Speaker 2: And essentially he wasn't homeless obviously, because he had a
Speaker 2: place for all his stuff and he slept in our apartment,
Speaker 2: but he did not have a bedroom. He turned it
Speaker 2: into an office and that's where they started everything out.
Speaker 1: Of Wow, and that's wild.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the commitment you have to kind of have
Speaker 2: if you're especially if you're going to make it your
Speaker 2: full time job. Like, yeah, he left his full time
Speaker 2: job with co Ed magazine. John left his full time
Speaker 2: job and I think part time was working for his
Speaker 2: dad's demolition company just to make sure he had enough money.
Speaker 2: And these they both took a chance on themselves and
Speaker 2: their ideas and said screw it, let's go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's wild. It's like really inspiring to hear too,
Speaker 1: because it's like, again, I have friends who have wanted
Speaker 1: to start things, Yeah, and they put so much doubt
Speaker 1: in themselves to be like, well it's impossible to start
Speaker 1: on not even gonna try. And I feel like I
Speaker 1: was that way for a very long time. Like even
Speaker 1: with podcasting with Scott, I'm like, no, nobody wants to
Speaker 1: hear what I'm saying anyway. But really, once you like
Speaker 1: have that little spark of just being like, hmm, maybe
Speaker 1: I can do more than what I think I can,
Speaker 1: that's when you're really like, oh, there's so much in
Speaker 1: front of you. Why not take advantage of it, Like,
Speaker 1: don't just sit on the sidelines of your own life.
Speaker 2: Well, the way I see it, too, is all the
Speaker 2: stuff that you're learning now, even if I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: if you can sell enough brew pants to retire and
Speaker 2: make millions, yeah, I would like to see nothing more
Speaker 2: than that. But even if that doesn't happen, and maybe
Speaker 2: you realize down the road, hey, you know what, we're
Speaker 2: making some money, but it's probably not worth the effort
Speaker 2: or the storage or whatever. All the things you've learned
Speaker 2: to put this together make whatever you do even better
Speaker 2: next time. You are, as a worker, as a creative,
Speaker 2: as what a partner, are going to be so much
Speaker 2: much more valuable in whatever that next step is because
Speaker 2: you're going to understand this whole new thing. And that's
Speaker 2: the way Carl the Mara and I have looked at
Speaker 2: what we've done with you know, independent broadcasting, if you will,
Speaker 2: independent content creation is you know, we would if the
Speaker 2: right opportunity became available, we would jump back into morning
Speaker 2: radio in a second, because I legitimately loved when that
Speaker 2: studio door was closed and we had our space and
Speaker 2: our you know that the airwaves if you will, and
Speaker 2: our callers that there was nothing greater for me now
Speaker 2: when that studio door opened and you have to do
Speaker 2: you know, all of the other stuff. There were some issues,
Speaker 2: but all the stuff that we're doing now, learning how
Speaker 2: to you know, livestream on different platforms, and learning how
Speaker 2: to use different tools cameras, lighting, figuring out this podcast
Speaker 2: that we've built and which we just celebrated the two
Speaker 2: year anniversary of the Morning Show podcast, and growing that
Speaker 2: thank you, and growing that all of those things is
Speaker 2: if we were to get back into traditional media, I mean,
Speaker 2: we have so many tools now that we didn't have
Speaker 2: or didn't fully understand when we were doing it four
Speaker 2: years ago.
Speaker 1: For sure. Yeah, it's exactly that. It's like you have
Speaker 1: such a vast knowledge of kind of like what the
Speaker 1: current media landscape is that if you were to jump
Speaker 1: into like a radio job full time, it's almost like
Speaker 1: that's a non negotiable for you, where if.
Speaker 2: We've sorry, no you go, I was gonna say. We
Speaker 2: have had conversations with radio companies and stuff, and that's
Speaker 2: always the thing that we protect the most. And with
Speaker 2: some radio executives it might scare them, or they don't
Speaker 2: I don't even want to say it scare them. They
Speaker 2: don't understand it, so it's not a path they're going
Speaker 2: to go down, which is absolutely there, right mm hm,
Speaker 2: And some some radio executives are saying, yeah, absolutely, you
Speaker 2: you built that thing. Why would we stop you from
Speaker 2: continuing it? You know, this is that's something that's going
Speaker 2: to help us down the road because now you have
Speaker 2: this national audio and that you can bring wherever you
Speaker 2: happen to go. And the right deal hasn't necessarily like
Speaker 2: popped up yet. But even with the podcast company that
Speaker 2: we work with at the moment, one of the reasons
Speaker 2: we signed with them was because we still own all
Speaker 2: of our own stuff and that was super important to us.
Speaker 2: And if you ever build something, you know how important
Speaker 2: it is for you to own that thing that you build.
Speaker 2: Unless someone comes and signs to a fat check, here
Speaker 2: you go, because trust me, if there are enough zeros,
Speaker 2: I would sell the shit out of this.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, don't worry, Okay, that's yeah, Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: interesting to kind of see how much you're capable of
Speaker 1: when you're forced to kind of like go outside of
Speaker 1: your comfort zone to a degree. Yeah, but it's all
Speaker 1: super encouraging.
Speaker 2: And I think people also need to give themselves time
Speaker 2: to be creative. Like sometimes if I'm if I'm in
Speaker 2: a rut and i feel like I've just been like
Speaker 2: being a little task rabbit, right like just checking things
Speaker 2: off the list, I'll just go for a drive because
Speaker 2: legally and responsible, you're not supposed to do a lot
Speaker 2: of other things when you drive, so you when I
Speaker 2: drive my I can let my mind wander a little bit,
Speaker 2: as opposed to being in the house or being in
Speaker 2: the office where there's always like something to do. And
Speaker 2: I'm the type of person that needs to let my
Speaker 2: mind wander to think of new ideas and be creative.
Speaker 2: And anytime someone tells me they're in a rut, just
Speaker 2: go for a drive. Try it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're still in a rut. Maybe you're in a
Speaker 2: worse we're already get back. I can't promise anything, but
Speaker 2: maybe it's you just needed to break up the monotony
Speaker 2: of scheduling and accomplishing tasks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. That's my biggest problem is like I can fall
Speaker 1: into patterns where I'm just like I want to do nothing,
Speaker 1: Like my brain needs to just be off. But then
Speaker 1: I keep it in the off, but like switch for
Speaker 1: too long, and then I'm like I have to encourage
Speaker 1: myself to do things again, and I hate it.
Speaker 2: You know. But my barber explained this term that I
Speaker 2: wasn't aware of before. But we were talking about a
Speaker 2: video game. Do you ever this was the wildest trend
Speaker 2: in video games. It was a year or year and
Speaker 2: a half ago. Have you ever played the power Washer game?
Speaker 1: Okay, yes, I have House Flipper. It's literally the exact
Speaker 1: same thing. It's called house Flipper.
Speaker 2: Oh I've not played house Flipper. It's played that one.
Speaker 1: Okay, So house Flipper is literally like you walk into
Speaker 1: the house, you have to pick up the garbage, you
Speaker 1: need to paint, the walls you need and all you're
Speaker 1: doing is literally just like paint the wall. You just click,
Speaker 1: you walk over, you pick up the trash, you just
Speaker 1: click it. It's like it's almost like doing just monotonous
Speaker 1: tasks and you could spend thirty forty minutes just like
Speaker 1: focusing on cleaning the house, putting things where they need
Speaker 1: to be. It's just there is no real challenge to it.
Speaker 1: There is really really no objective. It's just like focusing
Speaker 1: on getting the tasks done and for and for.
Speaker 2: People who don't know power washer, it's it's kind of similar.
Speaker 2: You're literally a powerasher, like the big hose that cleans things,
Speaker 2: and you just you can pick whatever thing like I
Speaker 2: picked a playground and you just take your mouse and
Speaker 2: you clean like you use the power hose or the
Speaker 2: power washer, and you clean like the jungle gym, and
Speaker 2: then you clean the bench and then you clean and
Speaker 2: it's it's a little more nuance because you could pick
Speaker 2: like different nozzles and hoses and then stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But the reason I bring that up is my my
Speaker 2: uh barber was telling me about the game and I
Speaker 2: was like, man, this sounds real dumb, and he's like, no,
Speaker 2: it is. That's the whole point. It's really dumb, but
Speaker 2: you have to try it, and he goes. It allows
Speaker 2: your lizard brain to work where you can just kind
Speaker 2: of sit there. You're doing an activity but it's not hard,
Speaker 2: and you're you're you kind of like zone out and
Speaker 2: you do that thing. And I think everyone needs to
Speaker 2: do that at some point in your day. You need
Speaker 2: to let your brain kind of go into lizard mode.
Speaker 2: I love that and just like reset a little bit.
Speaker 1: I love lizard mode. I'm gonna start using that. I've
Speaker 1: I sometimes my friends and I would call it bunny time.
Speaker 1: His bunny time, So bunnies like when there's just say,
Speaker 1: petting Zoo's at schools my friend's principle, so they he's
Speaker 1: like a crazy principle. He gets like petting Zoo's circuses
Speaker 1: like you name it. He's like all about the kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a great, great principle, but he came here. Yeah
Speaker 1: I would love that, so he But the problem is
Speaker 1: the bunnies can't they can do twenty minutes at a time.
Speaker 1: You cannot leave the bunnies with constant stimulation for longer
Speaker 1: than twenty minutes. So you have to take them and
Speaker 1: they have to kind of just be like zoned out
Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes before they're reintegrated. So it's
Speaker 1: bunny time.
Speaker 2: I love that. He just needs to be by themselves,
Speaker 2: recharge their batteries a little bit. Yeah, and then they're
Speaker 2: back out into the world.
Speaker 1: Exactly, just a little bit of recharging, a little bit
Speaker 1: of bunny time.
Speaker 2: Do we know how much time it takes to recharge
Speaker 2: a bunny?
Speaker 1: I do not. Actually I could ask him, but I
Speaker 1: would love to find that out. Yeah, I'll I ask.
Speaker 1: I'll get back to you on that one. I also
Speaker 1: have this new thing. It's called I Gotta eat like yesterday.
Speaker 1: It's called a books pama. Also, what the hell is
Speaker 1: that thing that? Why is that bubble there? Anyway, it's
Speaker 1: a books Palma.
Speaker 2: We live streaming this. Where did that thumbs down button
Speaker 2: come from?
Speaker 1: I think Zoom added that in where if you put
Speaker 1: things up for like long periods of time. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: they do that.
Speaker 2: Whoa, yeah, so what if I put my hand up
Speaker 2: for a while? Does that? I don't know, just the
Speaker 2: thumbs down that's the only thing Zoom has integrated.
Speaker 1: I know that if they do the same thing on
Speaker 1: FaceTime calls. But yeah, weird. So it's a books pama.
Speaker 1: It's smaller than a kindle because my biggest thing is
Speaker 1: I want to read more, but I hate the size
Speaker 1: of the kindle, and I also don't want to carry
Speaker 1: a giant book around, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Obviously, it's like it's like the uh, paper white screening, right,
Speaker 2: so it's not like your actual phone screen. Yeah, it's like,
Speaker 2: oh man, that's cool. How much is that thing?
Speaker 1: Two seventy?
Speaker 2: Okay worth it because it kindles like one hundred.
Speaker 1: But what's wild is you could also put apps on it,
Speaker 1: so like I can play my music, it can run
Speaker 1: full video. And it's wild because it's literally like a
Speaker 1: paper white like Kindle screen.
Speaker 2: Interesting. I kind of love that thing.
Speaker 1: I do too. And it has a camera, which is
Speaker 1: wild too because it's like, why would I ever want
Speaker 1: a kindle white photo of myself?
Speaker 2: But so if you take pictures on that camera and
Speaker 2: you transfer it somewhere.
Speaker 1: Else, yeah, it comes out like eating.
Speaker 2: Like it's on that screen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, it's wild.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's a weird way where they like make it
Speaker 2: a real picture later on.
Speaker 1: As far as I know, I haven't tried transferring it.
Speaker 1: I could try and see what happens. But yeah, but I.
Speaker 2: Want to give you a theory speaking of pictures, go
Speaker 2: for it. So I do love that thing, and I
Speaker 2: might have to look into one for myself.
Speaker 1: No, fantastic.
Speaker 2: You don't need you don't need more things.
Speaker 1: And it's about your phone size. That's the best part
Speaker 1: because now I can literally just travel with these two things.
Speaker 1: And it's like now when I want to just read
Speaker 1: on the train, I can literally go distraction free and say, great,
Speaker 1: now let me just read my book and I don't
Speaker 1: have to worry or care about anything.
Speaker 2: No notifications or anything like that. No, that's great. I
Speaker 2: do want to bring up because you mentioned pictures. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like you would appreciate this theory or this
Speaker 2: new discussion that is now out there in this social
Speaker 2: media world. What is a picture? Now? Hear me out.
Speaker 2: The reason people are having this discussion now is because
Speaker 2: whether you have an iPhone, a Google phone, like a pixel,
Speaker 2: a Samsung, there's so much artificial intelligence and filtering that's
Speaker 2: done even if you don't ask it to with your photo.
Speaker 2: Like when you use an iPhone, it's take it's snapping
Speaker 2: that photo, right, it's processing all of that information and
Speaker 2: then it's running it through filters, algorithms, processing to make
Speaker 2: it the best picture possible. Okay, so now people are
Speaker 2: starting to think, well, what is a real picture? How
Speaker 2: do we like what constitutes a picture? Now? Because with
Speaker 2: the pixel phone the one I have, I mean I
Speaker 2: can remove things from the background, I can move people's
Speaker 2: from where they are in the picture. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 2: cleaning up the photo as it's taking it. So that's
Speaker 2: not actually the thing that I see. Even if I
Speaker 2: just press the shutter button and take that, that is
Speaker 2: not the actual image that I pointed my camera at.
Speaker 1: Huh. I've never thought of that. That's like really interesting.
Speaker 1: Do we have pictures anymore? What do we and what
Speaker 1: do we call these things that we now have? Hmm?
Speaker 1: You know, I've recently gone back to my digital camera. Cool,
Speaker 1: I'm like trying to go back to it. I have
Speaker 1: this like old school retro one that's like old school
Speaker 1: digital where it doesn't even have a screen. Ooh yeah,
Speaker 1: and you could plug it into your phone and you
Speaker 1: could copy everything over. But like you can just take
Speaker 1: a million pictures. Yeah, but you don't know what you're
Speaker 1: actually taking until you plug in your phone. That's cool,
Speaker 1: or plug in the camera. But then I also have
Speaker 1: a really good LIKEO one. But I agree with you,
Speaker 1: that's interesting because it's like, yeah, the image is so
Speaker 1: processed by the time you're actually seeing it exactly. Everything's
Speaker 1: in portrait mode now, so that means they like lighten
Speaker 1: up your face, the background, they blur whatever. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's not the real thing.
Speaker 2: I mean. I saw an ad for a picture for
Speaker 2: one of the pixel phones. I think it's the newest
Speaker 2: one where someone was like tossing their baby in the air,
Speaker 2: like on the beach, and they moved the baby higher.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: In the picture, it's like, well, that's not the original picture,
Speaker 2: but you can pass it off as the picture because
Speaker 2: all of the data that was processed and uploaded it
Speaker 2: makes it look like that was the original photo. I
Speaker 2: guess that what it was like a podcast from c
Speaker 2: neet or one of like the nerds the platforms that
Speaker 2: I follow, they said, the only thing that really constitutes
Speaker 2: as a picture now is if you take a video
Speaker 2: and pull a frame from that video. Wow, or something
Speaker 2: along those lines. But I don't know what we're gonna like,
Speaker 2: what are what's what's the next generation coming up? Alpha?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What are they gonna even think pictures.
Speaker 1: Are Yeah, that's wild because by the time you're seeing it,
Speaker 1: it's so wildly edited and processed and changed up. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's not the original photo. It's not like film.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not I for the record, what I'm
Speaker 2: telling you guys this. I know this sounds like a
Speaker 2: very high conversation. But where I am right now, it's
Speaker 2: eight forty five in the morning. I don't even smoke.
Speaker 1: So wow, that's.
Speaker 2: That's a good plant for the weekend.
Speaker 1: I will. That's a good thought. Thank you for that, Anthony,
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Is a photo? What qualifies or constitutes as a photo
Speaker 2: these days?
Speaker 1: I've loved that. I never actually thought of that. That's
Speaker 1: very interesting.
Speaker 2: Even if you don't do anything, your phone is still
Speaker 2: doing it on Like, even if you don't ask your
Speaker 2: phone to.
Speaker 1: Process it, it still is.
Speaker 2: Naturally based on the technology in your your phone, it's
Speaker 2: going to do something different.
Speaker 1: And that's wild too. Now with like all this Apple
Speaker 1: Vision Pro stuff, because that has a million and one cameras,
Speaker 1: but how you're viewing it through the lens is also
Speaker 1: wildly different too.
Speaker 2: Yep. I haven't played with a vision Pro, have you ever?
Speaker 2: Had one of the VR headsets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a PlayStation VR. It was so fun.
Speaker 1: I love the play station OG Yeah, I still have
Speaker 1: that one. I don't the novelty of VR kind of
Speaker 1: wears off for me because it's like you just get
Speaker 1: nauseated by the cameras. The vision pro interests me because
Speaker 1: I'm like I can do like augmented reality, Like I
Speaker 1: love that, Like the thought of like being able to
Speaker 1: WEARK goggles right now and it's like, Okay, I could
Speaker 1: see you in front of me, but I could look
Speaker 1: at my texts over here and I'm still in my room.
Speaker 1: Like I like that better than VR, where it's like
Speaker 1: I have to be in a whole new.
Speaker 2: Place until they until they get to something that's a
Speaker 2: little more similar to like a pair.
Speaker 1: Of glasses Google glass, yea something like that.
Speaker 2: And even that one like looked weird. Yeah you know,
Speaker 2: I wanted to just look like a pair of readers.
Speaker 1: Contact lens content where you can't even see it.
Speaker 2: That's like some spy stuff.
Speaker 1: That is some spy stuff. That's where it's a dystopian future, yeah,
Speaker 1: which where I.
Speaker 2: Mean, we're this close, but it's like a dystopian I
Speaker 2: wouldn't call it a future. It's like dystopian. Two weeks
Speaker 2: is basically where we're at.
Speaker 1: It this pretty much.
Speaker 2: And yes, for those people at home, I know that
Speaker 2: two weeks is also in the future.
Speaker 1: To the record, well, you know, there is that whole
Speaker 1: doomsday clock and that's tick ticking away.
Speaker 2: So I would love, like write I would. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to think of like a real world application. A The
Speaker 2: easiest thing is if you go to a new country
Speaker 2: and it just translates everything in front of you. Sure,
Speaker 2: when you're reading a street sign, like when we were
Speaker 2: in Taiwan. Yeah, there were some street signs or some
Speaker 2: signs that were in English, but generally most of them
Speaker 2: were not. Yeah, it would have been great to just
Speaker 2: look around as a tourist. Yeah, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: could read everything here. But I think, like this is
Speaker 2: the nerdiest thing ever when we were When we're on Twitch,
Speaker 2: one of the things we have to do is always
Speaker 2: check the live streaming chat as it goes through. It'd
Speaker 2: be awesome to have a pair of glasses where I
Speaker 2: could see maybe on one eye, the chat screen and
Speaker 2: now it's just always in front of me and I
Speaker 2: can like look around. I can talk to Carl and Ree,
Speaker 2: I can pull stuff up on the screen and I
Speaker 2: can still know what the audience is saying the whole time.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what's wild. Is that what the is like
Speaker 1: basically what the vision pro could do, but you have
Speaker 1: to still looks ridiculous exactly. And then you're gonna be live
Speaker 1: streaming with a giant thing of goggles on it and
Speaker 1: people are gonna be like Anthony Good and those fake
Speaker 1: AI eyes that they give you on the glasses are
Speaker 1: also not working for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's no one should ever walk around with that.
Speaker 2: I do have the Oculus, the first version of the
Speaker 2: Oculus that came out, and there are some fun games,
Speaker 2: Like there's a game and I haven't played it in
Speaker 2: probably a year, but it's called Elvin Assassin and you're
Speaker 2: an Elf and you've got a little bow and arrow
Speaker 2: and you just you're on a tower and you just
Speaker 2: gotta kill like these ogres as they come through, and
Speaker 2: they come through in waves and that's it. You just
Speaker 2: keep going until more and more come through. And I
Speaker 2: could spend hours playing that game.
Speaker 1: It's a more violent version of your power cleaning game,
Speaker 1: but it also is giving you your bunny time.
Speaker 2: And but it's also physical because you're you're getting up.
Speaker 2: I will this is gonna sound so lame. I will
Speaker 2: be sweating at the end of that game. M well,
Speaker 2: thank you by putting your arms in this motion and
Speaker 2: the kind of like drawing the fake string back because
Speaker 2: you have to do all of that, yeah, and letting
Speaker 2: it go.
Speaker 1: They have VR workout classes like that is a thing.
Speaker 2: Which I've done a beat saber.
Speaker 1: No, I've always wanted to. That always looks so fun.
Speaker 2: Oh my god. And for people who don't know what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about beat Saber, if you remember the game
Speaker 2: Fruit Ninja mm hmm, where you have to slice the
Speaker 2: fruit on your on your mobile phone screen. It's kind
Speaker 2: of if you, like, if you took Fruit Ninja and
Speaker 2: Guitar Hero and put them together. That's what beat Saber is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And you're like playing along with the music and you're
Speaker 2: slicing these boxes that come through. You can add packs
Speaker 2: like I have the BTS pack so good as a
Speaker 2: Leady Gaga or not Letty Gaga.
Speaker 1: Uh Lincoln Park woo okay, I got.
Speaker 2: A Lincoln bleed it out. Really fun to do, also
Speaker 2: very hard.
Speaker 1: And you're probably sweating so much by the end of it.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I sweat doing everything, So maybe I'm
Speaker 2: not the best example. I always tell people there's like
Speaker 2: one thing I'm really good at, and that's sweating the
Speaker 2: absolute best.
Speaker 1: Well, wow, I would love to. I would say I'd
Speaker 1: love to come over and play it, but I'm worried
Speaker 1: that your headset's going to be drenched, so.
Speaker 2: We'll wipe it down. It's fine, okay, I'll.
Speaker 1: Bring some baby wipes over.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I think that just concludes. This has been forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I can't believe how fast the time went.
Speaker 2: Is that like too much? Too little? What did I do?
Speaker 1: No, you did a great job. Usually Skin and I
Speaker 1: have been doing twenty thirty minutes, so you had an
Speaker 1: additional fifteen.
Speaker 2: But that's because Scott's lazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, truth, you're true. He's gonna listen to this
Speaker 1: and he's gonna text both of us and be like
Speaker 1: you digs. Well, thank you so much Anthony for joining me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, this is awesome.
Speaker 1: This was great, and I hope that you guys all
Speaker 1: have a wonderful weekend. Again. This is just a nice
Speaker 1: little bonus Bowl Chat my day, Bowl Chat Day Friday,
Speaker 1: My Bowl Friday, My Bowl Friday. Okay, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the cap shit. But thank you all so much for joining.
Speaker 1: We'll see you on Monday. It's gonna be a little
Speaker 1: bit later because we didn't get to record serial Killers
Speaker 1: before we left for break, so but keep listening because
Speaker 1: it's coming, so all right, see you guys on Monday
Speaker 1: for serial Killers. Until then, bye later, see you