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Hey guys, this is Eastern 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: and uh, we're gonna get Jared and Ashley on the 13 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: line because Ben and Ashley taped this episode earlier today. 14 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: But Jared and Ashley want to react to what you 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: all saw on Bachelor in Paradise tonight because this was 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: a really big night for them and and we want 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: to get their thoughts on it right now. So we 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: have Jared and nashally here on the line. And it 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: was such a beautiful proposal, But what what do you 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: guys think on Yeah, we feel like so good about 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: our proposal. It was so sweet. Jared is legit a 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: magical man, beautiful girlfriend turned fiance ever, and I couldn't 23 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: have imagined I still can't imagine Um wanting, you know, 24 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: being proposed to in any other spot. Jared had mentioned 25 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: that he wanted to make Paradise write for me because 26 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: he had somebody ups and downs there and it was 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: kind of looked at as like a place of a 28 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: lot of emotion, not necessarily always the greatest emotion, and 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: he wanted me to be able to look back on there, 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: on that place such asprescial place to us and feel 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: really good feelings, which is why he thought that I 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: be great to proposet me there, and I could have 33 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: asked for nothing more. I thought that was perfect. Yeah, 34 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: I mean the opportunity to go back to Paradise and 35 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: to make it right after messing up for so many times. 36 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: It's true, though, baby was an opportunity that I I 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: jumped at um and I always wanted to propose to 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: my fiance in a place that was very meaningful for 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: both of us. And there's no more meaningful place than 40 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: that beach where we first met. That's something that he 41 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: even told me Um, like a week or two into 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: knowing each other, I asked him to go, where do 43 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: you plan on proposing one day? And he goes somewhere 44 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: meaningful to my wife and I And never when I 45 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: thought that that would be me. I mean, I hope, 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: but I'm glad I didn't sound too much like an idiot, 47 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: and that's good. I appreciated it. He founded amazing, like 48 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: it was like he was meant to do proposing and 49 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: it was a great I know, and it was such 50 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: a great day. It's weird watching your proposal back, um, 51 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't get that opportunity. And so 52 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: thinking back upon that day and how great it was 53 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: to be able to go down to the beach where 54 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: we first met and then uh, you know, proposed to 55 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: actually in the place where I caused her so much 56 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: pain and really just make things right. Um. And then 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: our friends were there too, you know, later that night 58 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: dinner and Jade, we got dinner with them and was 59 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: able to celebrate and it was such an awesome day. 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: And so watching it back brought back a lot of emotion. Um, 61 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: but it was definitely difficult to watch back at times. Um, 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: as you guys saw you know, Kevin Ashley's boyfriend was 63 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: down there, uh, in Paradise. Definitely a normal thing to 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: have to have your ex for your proposal. And I 65 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: didn't know. It wasn't ideal, of course, it's never ideal. 66 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: And I didn't know he was going to be in Paradise. 67 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: I mean, we had weird rumors that he might be 68 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: down there, And I actually didn't know I was going 69 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: down to proposed to her, and we were keeping it 70 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: a secret, so she honestly thought that we were just 71 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: going down there to hand out the day card. And 72 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: obviously none of the castles in Paradise knew what was 73 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: going on, so, um, you know, I did my best 74 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: to try to keep that secrets of surprise athlete, so 75 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: no one could have really planned, um you know two, 76 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,239 Speaker 1: figure out a way to make sure Kevin wasn't there, 77 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: because none of us would want him there like for 78 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: no of course, and so and I don't want to 79 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 1: propose to ask in front of the next boyfriend. And 80 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean the night before we headed down to Paradise, 81 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: I was on the phone producers saying I did not 82 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: want Kevin there, and I didn't know if he was 83 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: still down in Paradise, honestly, obviously I didn't know if 84 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: he came and left, if if if he was still 85 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 1: in Paradise or not. And so I remember just on 86 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 1: the phone and saying, listen, if Kevin is there, please 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: just do whatever you need to do to make sure 88 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: he's not there during the engagement, because you know, this 89 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 1: is the moment that every you know, person dreams of, 90 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: the moment that you do get engaged. And as a 91 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: guy for a very long time, I turns to this 92 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: moment and what I'm gonna say and who's gonna be 93 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: with and you know, pulling out the ring and getting 94 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: down on one knee, and then the idea of doing 95 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: that in front of my fiance's ex boyfriend is horrible 96 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: and something I didn't want, and obviously Kevin would have 97 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: wanted either, And so I just tried to make sure 98 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: that he wasn't there, and that was unfortunately not an 99 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: option for me. And it came down to me either 100 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: proposing in paradise in front of them, um not, you know, 101 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: and with making it as less awkward as possible, and 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: I I got certain promises where it was made. You know, 103 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: it's very clear to me that they were going to 104 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: make it as little awkward as possible and as little 105 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: painless as possible, so everybody's happy. Well, it wasn't the moment. 106 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: We didn't you know, we knew he was there, but 107 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't like an overwhelming presence. We said hi to 108 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: him afterwards, but we didn't even know that they were 109 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: watching on We didn't even know the ca So, I mean, 110 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 1: you guys. So I went down there and it sucked. 111 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. First, walking down and the first 112 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: time I ever saw Kevin, and it just really fucked 113 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: because I had to stand there knowing I'm about to 114 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: propose to Actually while looking at her ex boyfriend. I mean, 115 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: nobody in their right mind wants to be put in 116 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: that position. But having said that, you know, I'm not 117 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: going to base my decisions based on Kevin's feelings. And 118 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: I hope you would understand and respect that, because I 119 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: love Actually and I wanted to propose to her on 120 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: that beach, and you don't get really any opportunities like that. 121 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 1: I had one opportunity, and I either took advantage of 122 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: it or I didn't. And to be honest, like I said, 123 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: before we went down to Paradise, I didn't know if 124 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: he was there or not. And I was on the 125 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: phone trying to make sure that he wasn't there, and 126 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: unfortunately that could not be possible for me, and so 127 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: I did what I had to do, and and you know, um, 128 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and during the day, it was very It wasn't really 129 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: that awkward. We didn't see him, it wasn't And when 130 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: we were you know, when he was proposing to me, 131 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: I was totally zoned in on him and we didn't 132 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: see anybody else. We didn't even see the cameras, honestly, 133 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: and we had no idea that the cast is watching 134 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: us until they all cheered at the end of it. Um, 135 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: Like I said, watching that moment, you know, it's funny. 136 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: When we were watching back and seeing me walk down 137 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: the beach with you, I can just feel I watched 138 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: myself and I seemed calm. I feel like I would 139 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: look calmer than I really was. You you felt calm 140 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: walked into beach, but you also did know what was 141 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: going on, Like I could tell that I was at 142 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: that point I was starting to know. Oh yeah, you 143 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: can tell, like even when I walked in front of 144 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: the crowd, you can tell like how awkward I am, 145 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Like it's always down. It's so interesting watching yourself back 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: if you can tell, oh, yeah, what the hell are 147 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: you doing? And obviously that's the awkward you know, I tried, 148 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: but you know, it's very awkward. I didn't want to, 149 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: like also didn't want to like make it seem like 150 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: I was showing anybody up, you know, walking in front 151 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: holding your hand. You're you know, you're my girlfriend. You're 152 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: the person I love most most, and and so I 153 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: wanted to showcase that without making it seem like the 154 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: last thing I wanted to know. So like I just 155 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: I could be you know, it's weird watching yourself back 156 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: and like, oh man, I can tell how awkward I was. 157 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: My head was going down and then but then it 158 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: was it was better awkwardness when we were walking down 159 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,079 Speaker 1: the beach because then I could just be out nervous 160 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: I was, which was which was pretty funny to watch back. 161 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: So that's the cool part. That's the really cool part. 162 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: You get to like you get all those feelings back 163 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: how I was feeling in the moment, Like oh my god, 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: I can remember how awkward I felt, knowing that like 165 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: holy crap, Okay, here we go, Like I'm pulling out 166 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: the ring and I'm gonna get down on one knee 167 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: and then open the box and say, actually, will you 168 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: marry me? Just don't screw this up there. I remember 169 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: being sloppier then it looked, so that was nice, be 170 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: so beautiful dress. Um. But yeah, and yeah, I mean 171 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: I think I yeah. The only the only problem that 172 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: I had was that we had that conversation between after 173 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: it and Chip and Kevin aired just after our proposal. 174 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: And so let's clarify, Jared and I were really honest. 175 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: We were completely transparent in telling our story through the 176 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: story of us back in May. We thought that our 177 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:57,079 Speaker 1: kids in the airport was important enough to include it 178 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: because it was just a huge turning point. And I 179 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: kicked her, Like you want to put blame on Pony, 180 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: put blame on me. I'm the one in the airport 181 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: that went to Ashley, stove her away and kissed her. 182 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: And yes, it was one kiss and it shouldn't have happened. 183 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: Actually I lied, it should have happened because now we're 184 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: engaged and it does suck. Like I'm not saying that. 185 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: You know, if I wasn't the guy on the other side, 186 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been mad about it, but the fact 187 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: that it gets so much, the fact that it's getting 188 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: a lot of attention now, and we were so honest 189 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: about it up front, And why are we honest about 190 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: it up front? Because I had only known Kevin for 191 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: one month at that point. This was Jared who I 192 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: had been this mostly basically for two and a half years. Well, 193 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: that's usually it. Thank you for letting us share how 194 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: he felt. It's amazing to have this platform to really 195 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: get our feelings out there when we have them to 196 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: thank you and we will talk. Listen to the rest 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: of the podcast. By then and Ashley taped this episode 198 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: of the Almost Famous podcast earlier today with you some 199 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: sin that Jared and Nashley's proposal would air as they 200 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: remembered it and experience it. As you know from listening 201 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: to their life phone call just now, things aired differently. 202 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: They wanted to share their feelings once they watched it 203 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 1: live as you all did tonight. We hope you will 204 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: listen and enjoy the rest of the podcast as they 205 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: taped it earlier today. This is the Benn and Ashley 206 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast with I R Radio. Ashley, How 207 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: you doing good? How are you I'm Perfect. You ready 208 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: for a great episode of the almost famous podcasts So Ready, 209 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: and It's brought to you by Modcloth. 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Who gets 234 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: a video of their proposal? No one? So it's like, 235 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: really really cool. Well, I mean I once did. Oh, 236 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: I mean out of this franchise? Okayd bloss over that? 237 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: Why do you start? Wait? Ben, can I ask you something? 238 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: I've been really wanting to ask you, but it's like 239 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: the weird elephant in the room. Be careful, Okay, So 240 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask it. I'm just gonna have balls and 241 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: ask it. And then if you don't want to talk 242 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: about it, oh that's fine. So Lauren broke up with 243 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: her boyfriend. Did she break up with him? Oh? I 244 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: have no idea. I just read what I read in 245 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: US magazine. Ah, yeah, I've I've been asked about a lot. 246 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: What are you? I don't know, you know, it's it's 247 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: so hard. Actually, Ashley was the very first person to 248 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: reach out and say, hey, how are you doing my 249 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: first person, Yeah, people yeah, people just kind of like, 250 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: don't ask. Um. But then press started reaching out, and 251 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: so it's not that Yeah, it's great, it's really awesome. 252 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: It's normal. It's just a really good cycle of pain. 253 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: It's like, all right, the knife has been pulled out 254 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: of your stomach, let's stab it back in over something 255 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: that you have nothing to do with about my feelings 256 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: to total strangers. Yeah, it's so crazy. Um. I mean, 257 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: this is honestly with my thoughts in the best way 258 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: I can process them. One is, I really have nothing 259 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: to do with their relationship. Like there's there's zero part 260 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: of me that was involved at all at any point 261 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: in that other than the fact that that relationship at 262 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: some level like maybe kind of jealous maybe or I 263 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: was like upset about it because it's like hurt. And 264 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: I remember at the very beginning, it was only about 265 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: a week before I found out they were dating. I 266 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: was talking about buddies and I was like, you know, 267 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: the hardest part about this break, it's gonna be And 268 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: I was like, when I find out she's dating somebody else. 269 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: And then it was like a week later, that I 270 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: found out. So it's like the band aid got ripped 271 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: off pretty early and pretty quickly, um, which made me. 272 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about in the podcast before, and 273 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure this is me over speaking, but when you 274 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: could have a breakup, it's really hard. Um. You feel 275 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: a lot of emotions, not all of which are proper 276 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: right or even logical. For me, I felt a lot 277 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: of anger, a lot of pain, a lot of hurt, 278 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: a lot of hatred just for no other reason, and 279 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: the fact that I just wasn't happy that this season 280 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: of my life was now done. Um. And then I 281 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: kind of gave that up because I was like, there's 282 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: no use in me hating anything about this. And Lauren's, 283 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, a woman that I love and care about deeply, 284 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: and so I don't want to hate her. That's weird. 285 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: And if she likes this guy, then as much as 286 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: it sucks and as much as I'm gonna be jealous 287 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: about it and I'm gonna be piste off about it, 288 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be excited that, you know, in life, she 289 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: has somebody that's gonna make her happy. And so now 290 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: that's over. I don't have any clue why I have 291 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: an asked, and I probably will never know, Um, And 292 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: I just know how tough breakups are, and I know 293 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: how like confusing they may be. So I guess now. 294 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: I just I hope that Lauren Um is able to 295 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: process what happened, learned from this breakup, you know, good 296 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: and bad, and move on with Grace Um, because she will. 297 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: She's she's a strong woman, she's a she's a power player, 298 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: she's a lady boss Um, so she'll do really well. 299 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: But it doesn't. This is an I'll end here. It doesn't. 300 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: This is the create And maybe anybody out there listening 301 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: could write in and tell us their thoughts on this. 302 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: What does it feel like when you're your loved one 303 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: that you care about so deeply gets into a new relationship, 304 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: and then what does it feel like when that relationship ends? 305 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: Are you happy about it? Are you excited? Does it? 306 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: It causes a ton of different emotions? And then what 307 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: would you feel like if you were then asked about 308 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: it all the time afterwards? Um, Because it just kind 309 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: of like, I don't know how to respond, honestly, I mean, 310 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: I want what's best for Lauren. She uh, she's somebody 311 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: has shared a lot of life with, So I don't 312 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,479 Speaker 1: think I'm crazy for that. UM, I would say that 313 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: the the person would probably feel excited happy about their 314 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: breakup only when they had maybe intention on re you know, 315 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: reconnecting with that person. So I know the answer, but 316 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: I will ask for the audience, did you have any 317 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: of those feelings of excitement? UM, honestly no, And I 318 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: mean I would say I don't. I mean, I don't 319 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: know if I could, I would answer yes even if 320 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: I did, because I would make little evil, but I 321 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: really did. I really probably wouldn't. I really didn't feel excited. Um. 322 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: You know, you guys and ever that they're listening has 323 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 1: kind of been with us on this journey. I mean, 324 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: this podcast started what the week that Lauren and I 325 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: ended our relationship. Literally it did so, like it was. 326 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: Anybody out there listening has been with me and from 327 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: the beginning on this and it's been hard to process 328 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: sometimes what I should feel and what's healthy to feel 329 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: and what's healthy to give up and not feel and 330 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: to move on from. UM. I mean, with with all sincerity, 331 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: like I loved Lauren a ton um, and so I 332 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: was hurt and I was jealous of this new guy, 333 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: like I did not like this thing. This was not 334 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: something that I looked at was like I'm thrilled to 335 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: see pictures of this, like that is my girl. Um. 336 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: And then I gave that up. Yeah it stocks um 337 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people out there can 338 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: probably feel that and and relate with that. And so 339 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: I then gave that up because I was like, no, Ben, 340 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: stop being crazy. She is no longer you're a girl. 341 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: She has a different partner. You need to stop being weird. 342 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: And so I gave it up. I moved on. Um. 343 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: I I then been a recovering dating or recovering breakup 344 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: person from the next last year. And uh. And so 345 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: I've I've emotionally disconnected from that relationship because I just 346 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: I felt every emotion way be for now. And so 347 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: when I heard it was just like, you know, what 348 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: kind of sucks? This is definitely me over speaking. What 349 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: kind of sucks is that I felt all of these 350 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: like really unhealthy things towards this relationship, with the like 351 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: with the hope that like this was something going to 352 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: be so good, because then you know, at the end 353 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: of the day, I would say, you know what, this 354 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: has made her happy. And so as a result, no 355 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: matter how they got there. And I think we talked 356 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, was was somebody about how 357 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: their relationship started and was through you know, they were 358 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: in a relationship and they met and then they got 359 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: married whatever, and and now now this relationship. I don't 360 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: know what that relationship means to my relationship with Lauren 361 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: or my life story, because this was a big piece 362 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: of pain for me, right exciting to read through what 363 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: you're saying. There are you saying, had it worked out 364 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: with her and this other guy, you would have maybe 365 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,719 Speaker 1: found some sort of piece like it was meant to 366 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: be this pain Like, but look, that was what was 367 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: supposed to happened for her. So now they broke up 368 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: and you're like, great, I had a year of pain 369 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. I was having a hard time. 370 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: But then again it's like, this isn't about me, like, 371 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: and I'm and so I'm reminding myself this as people 372 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: have asked me. I was at an event last week 373 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and the whole press line was asking 374 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: me about it. Um, because I'm not doing anything cool 375 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: enough for them to ask me about. They have to 376 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: ask me about my X those relationship, Um, but that 377 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, I have to remind me, remind myself when 378 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: they ask this question, is stop making this about you. 379 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: This is not about me at all, it never will be. 380 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: This is her breakup, and and so as somebody that 381 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: loves her and knows her and cares about her. I mean, 382 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: I guess joy in life. I just hope she is 383 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: like okay, Like I just hope she isn't hurting. I 384 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: hope that she has people around her that are loving 385 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: on her and wrapping her up in her arm, in 386 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: her in their arms. And I'm sure she does, like 387 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: she's gonna be fine, She's gonna crush it. It just sucks. 388 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I think it's a little about you, 389 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Like you're allowed to have feelings. Yeah, you don't have 390 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: to be so tough that you're not allowed to feel 391 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: something because it's adjacent to you. Do you know what 392 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: I mean? Maybe it's not directly about you, but it's close. Yeah. 393 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that's true. I don't know. Maybe I feel 394 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: very uncomfortable about having feelings about it. Maybe that's it. 395 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: No that you definitely shouldn't. I wonder what you would 396 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: have felt if this happened six months ago. When you're 397 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: more in the midst of recovery, probably would have been 398 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: so excited. I know, isn't that interesting. There was another 399 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: breakup in Bachelor Nation that happened this week, and that 400 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: was Courtney and Lily from Bachelor Winter Games. You really 401 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: didn't think they're Eastern, just clasped his chest. That was 402 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: a sad one for me. This that was the one couple, Ashley, 403 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: you and I said would really make it from Winner Games. 404 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: I don't even think you and Kevin would make it. 405 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: I never counted on that. I just thought they would 406 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: make it. We we all did. Yeah, they they I 407 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: think they're going to stay good friends. I actually think 408 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: that they are. And it's not just something that they're 409 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: saying right now. Yeah, I wonder what happened. I mean, 410 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: it makes sense. I think he I read his Instagram 411 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: post and he explained it as they're like the best 412 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: not being emotionally attached to each other. And I get 413 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: that you kind of get to that place in life. 414 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: We're like, we're just good friends. Me caring about you 415 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: emotionally isn't doing us any good. Yeah, she's like so 416 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: young and wild, she's twenty two. She is the kind 417 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: of person that doesn't want to be locked down. So 418 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't think this is the right time that crazy 419 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: road trip, right, Yeah, they've gone a couple of trips 420 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 1: now that they've documented pretty well well ashually. Yeah, I'm 421 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: going to run out to go get Chris and Desiree 422 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: if I feel bad your engagement got overtaken by um 423 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: bens break up, Ben's breakup? How is this my breakup? 424 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: Did not break up? She met that night on Tinder, 425 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: which also kind of but she met him on tender 426 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 1: way back in the day. Well right, but still they 427 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: met on Tinder, like, well, Tinder has have successful relationships. Now, 428 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: I feel like fifty of people not me on a 429 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: dating app Tinder included, I will bumble. I'm a hinge 430 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: person too, it seems a little more depth. You're not 431 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 1: setting me up. I'm a cowboy, I'm a wild child. 432 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm on my own, I'm running, I'm running free and 433 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: and you know, ever since being engaged, all I want 434 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: to do is set friends up. It's just so cool that, 435 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: like now I get to concentrate on other people's love lives. 436 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: It's because I really don't think you want to be 437 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: set up. 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And actually in the almost famous 472 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: podcast on you dozen, Chris, thanks for coming on almost 473 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: fus podcast. Yeah, thanks for having us the I know 474 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: life is moving at a quick pace for you all. 475 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: You have some big updates to share with all the listeners. 476 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: But before do that, Chris, what do you think of 477 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: the Cubs right now? Go Cubs? I think they've got 478 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: six in a row right now, Man, it's absolutely incredible. 479 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: And that's I mean, that's really the only only thing 480 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about with the cups, 481 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: But um, I know actually has a list of things 482 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: to talk to you both about. And uh and I 483 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: will chime in where I can. First off, congratulations guys 484 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: number two. How many years apart? Are they going to be? 485 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: Two years? Perfect? The perfect amount? Is it a girl 486 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: or a boy? Boy? Second boy? Second boy? Two boys? 487 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: Are you gonna try for a girl? We will wait 488 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: and see. You carry so perfect? Nice, she's so tiny 489 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: and then she has her little baby bomp. It's the 490 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: cutest thing ever. He looks out pretty. Is there anything 491 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: you guys are doing differently? Are you more chill this 492 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: time around? You're just like, oh, we've been through this before. 493 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like this has gone by so 494 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: much faster because we're just so busy with a toddler 495 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: and work that just um, this past sunday we did 496 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: we found out that it was a boy, and now 497 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: it feels like, oh, yeah, we are onto our second child, 498 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: so you already have all the stuff ready. We do. Yeah, 499 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: it's actually really great. That's so easy. I've had a 500 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: lot more wine this time Yeah, that's true. He's thinking 501 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: plenty for me. All right. You guys are also on 502 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,959 Speaker 1: marriage boot Camp. Marriage boot Camp, guys, is something that 503 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: I even I told Jared in my agent this week. 504 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: I was like, they'd have to pay us I think 505 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: half a million dollars to do this show because the 506 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: amount of stress you guys go through and the amount 507 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: of past arguments that should be put to bed that 508 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: are not while filming this show. It's something I never 509 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: want to address. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely something that 510 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 1: you have to like relive certain things in order to 511 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: get through the show. Yeah. But yeah, but we're both 512 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: really strong with where we're at. Exhibit why wouldn't do it? Yeah? 513 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: Why do it? That money? It's really for the money, 514 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 1: as we all know, do a marriage with campus for 515 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: the money. We went on to work on our communication. Yeah. 516 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: So um when we when we filmed it, Asher was 517 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: only about eight months old. Oh my goodness. So it's 518 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: been in the bay for a while. Um, it's been 519 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: about a year. And so we were new parents and 520 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: we had been asked a couple of times before that, 521 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: and I was exactly like you and I'm like, hell no, 522 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: Like I never want to do it. I don't want to, 523 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: you know, put our relationship out there and then I 524 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: don't know. For some reason, I just felt like when 525 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: we were new parents and kind of going through that 526 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: vulnerable stage, I thought it would be a good time 527 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: to reconnect and work on certain things that we needed to. 528 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: So would you, how do you feel stronger now that 529 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: you did before him? Such a good question I was 530 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 1: going that I would say, yeah, I mean it just 531 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: had to. I mean, we brought up stuff that we 532 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: already knew. Some you know, I'm sure it will be aired, 533 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,239 Speaker 1: but there's some stuff that will be aired that we 534 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: were like we were solid on and we're solid still on. 535 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: I think it's just because we were so busy with 536 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: a newborn. There's things you just you know that you 537 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: need to work on, but you just don't because you're 538 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: like tired and busy. So the show was an opportunity 539 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 1: for us to actually talk about things. They brought up 540 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: Brooks on the show, and that is you know, that 541 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: was your runner up, It was your third your third 542 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: place on your season. Just to remind people that are listening, 543 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: was he the one that failed? Yes? Yeah, so that's everybody. 544 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: What happened Okay, well everyone, what happened? Oh it's okay, 545 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: that was so long ago. So basically does like, you know, 546 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: she liked Brooks a lot, and then Brooks and guys. 547 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: She liked Brooks, she liked Chris. Then there was a 548 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: random guy in between I don't remember his name, and 549 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: um then Brooks was like, you know, I'm not going 550 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't picture myself at the end of this with you. 551 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: So then he left and you were quite devastated, but 552 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: it really opened your eyes to knowing like that Chris 553 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: was real. So the whole thing is is like I mean, 554 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: Ben knows the show gives you the opportunity. It's not 555 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: even gives you the opportunity. It just happens that you 556 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: are able to fall in love with multi cool people. 557 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: And the only part about my season that was a 558 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: bummer is that, um, that was the focus was like 559 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: the drama of someone leaving rather than looking back at 560 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: when Chris and my love story began. It just got overshadow, 561 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: right because it started way before Brooks left, Like that 562 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. So it was just 563 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: a bummer that it happened that way. But that is frustrating. 564 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: But you know what the show was exactly how my 565 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: story needed to unfold, So I'm glad. Was it a 566 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: stressful I mean, I think everybody out there watching I 567 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 1: remember this. Was it a stressful last few days? Or 568 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: were you excited about the you know, moving on with Chris? 569 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: Because I really think this is my opinion, Please argue 570 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,959 Speaker 1: with me. The love story really starts on the show, 571 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: and it kind of begins once the show is over, 572 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: so I can get how you're you're dating up until 573 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: that kind of last moment, which just happens to be 574 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: a proposal. Yeah. No, true. Like Chris and A though 575 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: we talked a lot, we talked about a lot, Like 576 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: we knew that before he even proposed that I was 577 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: going to move to Seattle. We talked about our lives together, 578 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: so we kind of had that picture in mind before 579 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: even getting engaged, and so that was really helpful, um 580 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: to know what our life would look like. I think 581 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: hometowns were really important for us because that's when I 582 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: also felt so comfortable with his family and just felt 583 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: like I fit right in. And I think it was 584 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: the same when he met my parents. It was just 585 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: kind of like we just I think we were just 586 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: meant to be and that's exactly how we were supposed 587 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: to meet. Yeah, and I to speak for days. Um. 588 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: So the difference, Ben was that when at the end, 589 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: I was the only one there, and I had been 590 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: the only one there for like ten days or you know, 591 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: in bachelor days. But uh so I would think that 592 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: she was excited to get going. You know, it was 593 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: like a different build up to the end of Okay, 594 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: there's two guys, I've got to let one go. They're 595 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 1: both gonna pour their hearts out for me. Um. I 596 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: didn't know, right, so I just said to stay strong. 597 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: But she knew already because once Brooks left got the acts. 598 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: That's mean we're doing everyone's doing good, but you know 599 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: it's married. I have no idea. You're not even fright 600 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: you're on front with them. You guys, did you stay 601 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: chrumming at all with any of the gushmar season? Um? Ironically, yeah, 602 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: Brooks and Michael Gay, Zach Waddell shirtless dude. Well we 603 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: know that because exactly he's one of my favorite people 604 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: in the war, right, I mean those are all those 605 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: are all guys that were at our wedding. Nuts Bachelor girls. 606 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: It's I mean, you've been there and you've been there. 607 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: It's a different world when you're in it, Like everything's heightened, 608 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: everything is focused on just the relationship, are just on that, 609 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: and then once you get into the real world, you 610 00:32:55,320 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: like realize kind of what's important. And um, I don't know. 611 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: We just kind of just kept going strong with our 612 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: relationship and building it in Seattle, so it was nice. 613 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: I have one lat and then we'll dig in more 614 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: here too. Everything going on right now? What have you 615 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: found being important? Um, post bachelor? I've always been interested 616 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: in what are those bachelor relationships look like five years 617 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 1: down the road with kids, What are the some of 618 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: the things that you hold sacred. Well, I think when 619 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: we first started it was the fact that we wanted 620 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: to focus on each other, Like we didn't want to 621 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: put any any like fame or anything like that in 622 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: front of our relationship, and I think that's what made 623 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: us strong. Um. As for right now, I think it's 624 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: just keeping family in mind, keeping what's important, like keeping 625 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: like who knows you best, that's what's most important, and 626 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: making sure that your marriage is strong so that your 627 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: children can be strong. And you know, I don't know, 628 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what's most important. To us right now. Yeah, 629 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: we've done a pretty good job. Um, you know, for 630 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: better or we're keeping things separate, right, Like, this was 631 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: a wedding designer beforehand, and then she got into wedding 632 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: design and that's what she wanted to do and this 633 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: was a good launching pad to give exposure. But now 634 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: she's at a point where she has her creation is 635 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: going to take her as far as it can. Write 636 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: like The Bachelor promoting with her wedding designs. I think, yeah, 637 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: I think what you're saying is that whatever we were 638 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: doing before the show is exactly what we're doing now. 639 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's what was most important and so 640 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: that for us was what has really helped kept our 641 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: relation relationship strong. Yeah. Sorry, still designing. Oh yeah you are. Yeah, 642 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: I know. I don't know that. I told you last 643 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: time I saw you. Okay, you guys didn't have a 644 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: TV wedding, but you are in the bridal industry. So 645 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: did you How do you feel about that where you're like, oh, 646 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,399 Speaker 1: I want the TV wedding or you're like, this way 647 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: I could have more hands on. Yeah, I think we 648 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: were kind of what ever like worked out. Um, honestly, 649 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: we're so happy to be able to have it be 650 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: intimate and kind of you know, do our thing and 651 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: I don't know, have the most special people in our lives. Yeah, 652 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: that way you can make sure that you have everybody 653 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,839 Speaker 1: you need. They're not just the Bachelor cast. We had 654 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,960 Speaker 1: a great wedding. Yeah, we did lots of nineties throwbacks 655 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: then everyone on the dancelor. The music is so important, 656 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: so playlist, I know, did you have a DJ or 657 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,479 Speaker 1: a band? Oh? Do you know Tassos? He was gonna 658 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: oh yes, yeah. So ironically I knew Tasso's way back 659 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: in the day, like in Denver. He was on your season. 660 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: It was on and so I knew him way back 661 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: like when we were like sixteen, and so he did 662 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,879 Speaker 1: our He's a DJ, so he did. That's awesome. Yeah, 663 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: DJs are I think the way to go because that's 664 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,399 Speaker 1: what you can play all the musically want to play. 665 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's all those questions that comes to 666 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: wedding planning. You guys still reel them in though, because 667 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: they'll go on a tangent and like, we're not doing requests. 668 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 1: It's your wedding. Yeah, no request. You told no request 669 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: of certain certain songs because We're like, we didn't want 670 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: that typical wedding sound. Yeah, it's very known. I know 671 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about. When you say typical wedding sound. 672 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 1: It caters more to the the parents that it does 673 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: the twenties and anyway, then you got any more questions 674 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: for christ and dust? Yeah, well I'm now I want 675 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: to move into I was kind of letting you guys 676 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: talk wedding stuff. I thought I thought we were going 677 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: to get Ashley to commit to a wedding, but about 678 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: a wedding date. My wedding date is going to be 679 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:49,840 Speaker 1: probably confirmed within the next ten days. Yeah. Yeah, Jared 680 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: and I have his sister's wedding this coming weekend, and 681 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 1: then the days after that we're going to look at 682 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: venues in Rhode Island and the one that we really love. Um, 683 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 1: we have to get back to them by September seven. 684 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: So there you go. So there go. You should just 685 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: get married on the same day that her sister, his 686 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: sister is getting married and take it over. No. I 687 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: already feel bad for the amount of attention we're going 688 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: to get over, not over that couple, but you know, 689 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: the guests will flock. Oh that's okay, yeah, um, all right, 690 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: well I'm so I think as I've watched Marriage bout Camp, 691 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: I've had a couple of friends go on and do it, 692 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: um and we kind of touched on it, but we 693 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: didn't get a clear answer. Do you did you find 694 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: it beneficial? Are you happy you did it? Yeah? I 695 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: think there's some hesitants. Nobody likes it. No, there was 696 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:51,399 Speaker 1: a delay there, like you you know what, I think, 697 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: no matter what phase you're in in your relationship, whether 698 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: that's dating or marriage, it's always good to stop and 699 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: talk about it and kind of find out if there's 700 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,839 Speaker 1: any problems because sometimes they're underlying and you don't even 701 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,439 Speaker 1: see them until they're brought up. My only qualm about 702 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: the show is that it's going to try to go 703 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: back to your bachelorte experience and you're gonna be like, wait, 704 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 1: we overcame that again already have to revisit that, especially 705 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: because it's such an unnatural environment, Like nobody else has 706 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 1: to go and watch your spouse date other people on camera. 707 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: You know, they would have never witnessed that. They could 708 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: have heard about how it was, but they never and 709 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: it's a whole different dynamic. It really is, and I 710 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,880 Speaker 1: think it's just sometimes disappointing that that's what it always 711 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,239 Speaker 1: goes back to, because Chris and I do have so 712 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: many other um facets of our relationship that should be 713 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: shown and hopefully the show will show that. But we 714 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: do revisit, Yeah, we revisit the Bachelorette, which was five 715 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: years ago, but we do. But you know what, I 716 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: think it was good for us. I think it put 717 00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: us into a vulnerable state for us to both them 718 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: share things about our relationship that maybe we didn't know. Yeah, 719 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 1: we have a very select population or a very few 720 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 1: population that understands the Bachelor Bachelor, those people that go 721 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,080 Speaker 1: through it right, and then we have all the fans 722 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: that go through it with us and have their opinions. 723 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,200 Speaker 1: But you know exactly how how it goes right because 724 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: you're in it. Yeah you all. I mean you've I 725 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: think consistently and just because of the people you are, 726 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,720 Speaker 1: and and we got to spend some good time together 727 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: years ago at a McDonald's commercial. It was fun. Um. 728 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: But I think you both have been celebrated kind of 729 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: as the couple in Bachelor Nation that people can relate 730 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: with the most. And I wonder if my question for 731 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: you is do you think any of that has to 732 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: do with the way that you two really met. I mean, 733 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: I guess you your love story you said and started 734 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: way before you know, the kind of leaving of Brooks. 735 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people out there when 736 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: they watched that they really related with both of you, 737 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: and we're rooting for you from then on out. Did 738 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 1: you feel that or is there other reasons why people 739 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: can relate with you so much? I mean, I think 740 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe just because both Chris and I were going on 741 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: the show very justly. I think it's completely different now 742 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: than when we were on it, and then when we 743 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: were on it compared to when Jason was on it, right, 744 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: Like I think people can relate five years Yeah, yeah, right, 745 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: And I think, um, people can relate to both both 746 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,360 Speaker 1: what you said, like they were rooting for us on 747 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: the show, but they're also rooting for us now and 748 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: because we're super relatable in that shoot. I do mortgages, 749 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm saying, like it's super normal. Yeah, 750 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: and you know that's yeah. I mean we live a 751 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: very normal life. Uh yeah, Like you guys stay in 752 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: your hometown often, not like Caitly and Sean, which are 753 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: constantly on a different like continent or um, Rachel and 754 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: Brian are constantly going from like Connecticut, it's Texas, l A. 755 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: You guys are like at home with the kids. It 756 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: is very relatable. Yeah, it stays consistent and strong, and 757 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I think that's something that just makes 758 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 1: us strong. Not that you can't write, but totally each 759 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: relationship is so different. Um. But the other thing too, 760 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 1: is like the just the show is just like everyday life, 761 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: like you're either going to work out or you're not. 762 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: And like you said, Ben, like the relationship does technically 763 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: begin after the show, because that's really when you're seeing 764 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: other people's like quirks and how they handle situations, how 765 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: they handle stress, because on the show, like there is 766 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: none until yeah, outside of like the emotional there's not 767 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: like the every day stress. Um. So it's interesting No, 768 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: I mean before kids. Yeah, I'm saying before kids, like yeah, 769 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: she means like you know, when you go on the 770 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: glamour date, it's like you don't have any stress, but 771 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: then you get off and then you're like always someone 772 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: handles there how to pay for dinner exactly? Are like helicopters, 773 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: I mean asked for medium rare? Are you too? Are 774 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: you watching? Do you still keep up with the shows? Yeah? Occasionally. 775 00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 1: We've actually really gotten into paradise. This is the season 776 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: of Paradise. I'm here to declare that it is better 777 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: than a na other season of Paradise. And yeah, I know, 778 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,840 Speaker 1: and I was on the other ones that should be 779 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: the Bachelor? Now was it right for Tienne Colton to 780 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: break that? But before we answer those questions, let's take 781 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: a break here. I know we have one of our 782 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: crazy consistent sponsors, that Bit Fun Ashley. You love that 783 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,839 Speaker 1: fit Fun? I love that fit Fun. Can you tell 784 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,359 Speaker 1: our audience about that fit Fun? Hey? Does you love 785 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: that fit Fun as much as I do? Right? I do? Yes, 786 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: It's really it's gotten so good over the past year. 787 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: I use everything in the box. 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I think we got to talk about paradise 808 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: Before we close our segment on Chris and Dees, I 809 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,359 Speaker 1: have to ask this. I've been I had it written down. 810 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to let us skip over. This is 811 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: the one question I want to ask you both. If 812 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: you had one minute, let's say thirty seconds, does to 813 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 1: explain your favorite things about Chris and Chris thirty seconds task? 814 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,439 Speaker 1: Can we do that really cool romantic like the Notebuck Yeah, 815 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 1: let's do it right, got thirty seconds on the clock 816 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: starting now. Chris is one of the most thoughtful, carrying, 817 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 1: strong people. I know. He makes everyone in the room 818 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 1: feel special. And you're my rock seconds. Oh you're also 819 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: very hot and you are a great father and husband 820 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: and I love you so much. I feel like my 821 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,839 Speaker 1: voice got all like quiet and sexy too, And that's 822 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: the way to do it. What's your name? She's getting 823 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: back into the voice now, she's like getting into her life. 824 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: That's funny. I told him that. All right, Chris, it's 825 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,919 Speaker 1: your turn. You can go under thirty seconds. That's fair, 826 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: it's not over. Um. I loved as because she is 827 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,839 Speaker 1: very driven, she's beautiful, she knows exactly what she wants. UM. 828 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,480 Speaker 1: So she's not afraid to voice her opinion, her mind. UM. 829 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: But I love that she's a great mom, a great friend, 830 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: and I love her artistic side that's really come out 831 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,959 Speaker 1: in our relationship over the last five years. M huge 832 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: into puzzles. Who would have known that's actually brand new? Actually, 833 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: she just literally you've literally she goes. She text me like, 834 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go buy a thousand piece puzzle really quick. 835 00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you have a table of a puzzle, 836 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: a table puzzle seen that Mark Wahlberg movie to have 837 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: In the movie, he does a puzzle that's all white. 838 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: So he's like a genius. That's so cool. I'm a nerd. 839 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: I like puzzle contribution there right, everybody out there. That 840 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: is Chris and Does. Some of our favorite people from 841 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,640 Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation, that's Chris and Does as a couple. Catch 842 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: them on book a marriage boot camp coming up here 843 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: very soon. Actually the details on that. It's Friday, September 844 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: seven on on we TV. Make sure you check them 845 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: out there you can see more about the relationship. But 846 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: now we're moving in to the recap of Bachelor in Paradise. 847 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: Also the question of who will be the next Bachelor 848 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: and who believe is the best Bachelor and Chris and 849 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,680 Speaker 1: Dees are going to stick aroun to join us for 850 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: that with that team. Let's start with this. Shelton be 851 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:09,839 Speaker 1: the next Bachelor. I don't think so. I don't think 852 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,279 Speaker 1: he's mature enough or has had enough like dating experience 853 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,960 Speaker 1: to handle. Oh. I would love to watch him try 854 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 1: to figure this out. No, those girls would eat him alive. Guys, 855 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:24,719 Speaker 1: because just just can't be the bachelor because I love 856 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: him with Tea too much, and I don't think we 857 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: were left on a note where we wanted we want 858 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: to see him move beyond Tia yet. But you guys, 859 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: how heartbroken are you for Tia? If he was the 860 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: bachelor Amy, Come on, where's the sensitivity? I'm sorry she 861 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: messed me up in the beginning of the season, all 862 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: the craziness and then well she's just pig me. I 863 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: just can't lady, Yes, she needs a like no, I 864 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: love Yeah, I think it's amazing. But but that's why 865 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: I would say no to Colton. I think she deserves 866 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,799 Speaker 1: way more. She deserves someone who's going to just you 867 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,760 Speaker 1: know exactly what you want. When I loved Colton, sometimes 868 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: it takes a while to know what you guys remember 869 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: the episode and I don't remember which episode was, they 870 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,239 Speaker 1: were laying on a bed outdoor bed, and she was 871 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,959 Speaker 1: kind of like ripping on a guy, and Colton said, 872 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to rag on the guy. I know, 873 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,319 Speaker 1: I know. I really liked that because it's like I 874 00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 1: didn't like that she was like dogging some dude who 875 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,520 Speaker 1: knows what she was really talking sleep And he took 876 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: the high road and was like I'm not going to 877 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: rag on this guy. Sorry, I was like, chose me shared. 878 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,879 Speaker 1: Here's the one thing I think that the show has 879 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,920 Speaker 1: to watch out for. And I don't know if Colton's 880 00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: this guy or not, but you you all all have 881 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: mentioned your concerns with it. I think the Bachelor really 882 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: needs a good bachelor, a likable Batchel. It's gonna be 883 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: so good, so likable do you think? Yes? But I 884 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: still am attached to his previous relationship. Okay? What makes him? 885 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,959 Speaker 1: What makes him so likable to you? Because I feel 886 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: like Paradise hasn't made him more likable. Yes? Are you talking? 887 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? That cheese conversation where he where 888 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: he said that she's gives him gas hilarious, when he 889 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,760 Speaker 1: said that he accidentally zipped up his penis one time, hilarious. 890 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: He wasn't going to rip on people that made me 891 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 1: like him. I do like that so much, wide range 892 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,400 Speaker 1: of emotions. He's just a little snugly teddy bear. He 893 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: just confused. You didn't know what he was him when 894 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,319 Speaker 1: we met him. Did you hear the rumor that Ben 895 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 1: is going to be a Bachelor again? Yeah? I just 896 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: heard that. How do you feel about that, Ben. I mean, 897 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: it's great that people still think that I can hold 898 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: my own in that world. It also is great to 899 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: think that, you know, going on thirty and people they 900 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: still think those women will be attracted to me. Then 901 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: Lori was thirty six and Nick was thirty seven seven. 902 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Um, you know that you you all get 903 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,920 Speaker 1: it that. I feel like, if you ever were to 904 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: do it again, it has to be like three years 905 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,279 Speaker 1: four year break in between because it's so taxing. It's 906 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 1: just now recovering from my time on the Bachelor. I 907 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 1: don't even know if I am. And you're sick of 908 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: that entire time too, Yeah, I was. Yeah, maybe that's 909 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: why maybe I do need to do it again because 910 00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: I had a terrible experience because I was sick the 911 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: whole time. Taper White, could you imagine having to do 912 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: that strenuous That would have been great because I wouldn't 913 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:47,400 Speaker 1: have gained I know, right every in the hot, sweaty 914 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: sand and the stomach starts journey and you're like, oh, yeah, 915 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 1: I feel sexy, this girl loves me, like I just 916 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 1: wanted to keep doing this, and then it's like hey, sorry, 917 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 1: pause five minutes, like I'll be right back, and they 918 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:08,000 Speaker 1: know exactly so sad. Hey, but but hey, I was 919 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: the best Bachelor of all time? Ye yourself describing right now? Yeah, 920 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: because it takes me at least twenty every morning outside 921 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: of Colton, and he doesn't have a tape more outside 922 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,759 Speaker 1: of Colton. Who did you guys like um as the 923 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 1: possible bachelor coming out of Becka season. Honestly, I'm kind 924 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: of torn. I'm not sure because I'm not sure. I 925 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:44,319 Speaker 1: feel like there's this good I think we are on 926 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,919 Speaker 1: the Joe train put away followers. He's got he would 927 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: carry it, he will like him. You know what. Joe 928 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,879 Speaker 1: is probably the most relatable person ever on this show. 929 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: He just seems so down to earth and like kind 930 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: of just not really sure what's going on, but goes 931 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,719 Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, yeah, I like it. He just think 932 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,319 Speaker 1: he might be in a relationship. I mean, I I 933 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,080 Speaker 1: think it might make it right. So moving now, we 934 00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: have a couple. We we've mentioned Colton grocery store, Joe. 935 00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: We know the others that are up there for options, 936 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: and two of these people, Colton and Joe, are both 937 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: on Paradise this year. Colton. You know we saw this week, Uh, 938 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,960 Speaker 1: he and Tia had broken up. Um, I think we 939 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,640 Speaker 1: have to because this is a Bachelor focused podcast, we 940 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,760 Speaker 1: have to break down the recent developments on this season 941 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. Um. The things I have written 942 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: down here, the big ones are obviously Leo's meltdown. Um, 943 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,040 Speaker 1: the guy has gone off his rocker. We've seen it happen. 944 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: Can we talk about this for a second. I mean, 945 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: we cannot ignore the fact that this might be one 946 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:59,040 Speaker 1: of the most epic breakdowns ever in Bachelor history. When 947 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:00,919 Speaker 1: he was like, Kendall, I think you're beautiful. I don't 948 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,200 Speaker 1: know why you're not taking I think you're a wonderful person. 949 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: And I also think you're a fake actress. Oh my god, 950 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,360 Speaker 1: any through the drink. Well, then he threw the drink. Guys, 951 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: I miss this. I'm sorry me the wrong way though 952 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 1: the moment he was like talking to Kendall and with 953 00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:26,360 Speaker 1: the soft arm, oh somebody else, and I'm like, okay, 954 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,920 Speaker 1: so let's say let me say this my sister, my 955 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 1: best friend think he's so hot too. And my friend 956 00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: called him the rental version of Jason Momoa, especially when 957 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,720 Speaker 1: he was like Aquaman and like dove into the water 958 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: and then like emerge and he was like, who's the snitch. 959 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: Who's the snitch? Um? But yeah, So I find I 960 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,000 Speaker 1: used to think that Leo was attractive, and now that 961 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: I've learned his personality more, I don't see it anymore. 962 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: It's just really amazing how somebody's appearance can change so 963 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,200 Speaker 1: much when you learn about their personality. It's very true. 964 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: One of the things that dry me craziest is that 965 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: I feel like Leo knows he's attractive, though, Like, yeah, 966 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: he's a good looking dude. He's tall, he's he looks 967 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,479 Speaker 1: you know, he looks like Chris and I. He's tall, 968 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: he's really strong, he's got a long, beautiful hair. Yeah, 969 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,839 Speaker 1: great eyes. I mean he's sensitive and sweet. No. Um, 970 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: he knows he's attractive, and he he uses that to 971 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: his advantage. And and it drives me up the wall 972 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:25,959 Speaker 1: because he sits there from the very beginning of talking. 973 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, of course, he's confident because the guy. The 974 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: guy's ego is the largest I've ever seen on the show. 975 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:35,520 Speaker 1: And that's saying something. I was upset about Leo. I 976 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: don't I don't know, I was upset about it. I 977 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: never would have thought that would have come out of 978 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,480 Speaker 1: the guy that we knew back during Becka season. He 979 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: seems so gentle and just carrying gentlemanly, and all of 980 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's just this wild animal. I just got 981 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,280 Speaker 1: this side by side of he and Jason Momoa, and 982 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: I mean, Jason Momma was like the hottest person of 983 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: all time time, right, just like a stunning beat, right. 984 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: I think maybe he just needs to do another emission 985 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: impossible start and Justice League. I just didn't like it 986 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,920 Speaker 1: because I felt like he the way he complimented the 987 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: girls was like as if yeah, he had a huge ego, 988 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 1: and the way he complimented and was kind of condescending 989 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 1: in the sense of like, oh yeah, like needing trying 990 00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: to make them feel like, oh, I know, I'm making 991 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: you feel real special. That's what I got from it. Yes, 992 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: but they ate it up. Kendall left it when she 993 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: was talking to him, and yeah, I was upset with that. 994 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: What do we do as fans of the show. We're 995 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 1: all now fans of this show now when when we 996 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: have a character like Leo on it and he upsets 997 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 1: us all and we're angry, is it fair for us 998 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: to get angry and to be like that was ridiculous, 999 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: like that guy has issues, or as fans, do we 1000 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,640 Speaker 1: just need to not talk about it and do it 1001 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: like we treat every other human in the world and 1002 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 1: not judge because we don't know the full story. And 1003 00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,480 Speaker 1: how do we go about this now? Because one thing 1004 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: I was just so angry with Leo. We have to 1005 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: decide as fans how we're going to handle characters on 1006 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,959 Speaker 1: this show that we really are angry with. And what's 1007 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,640 Speaker 1: the best love to hate? What's the best avenue and 1008 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: platform to discuss it? Because one thing that the show 1009 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: is always done is it's allowedest ability to see through 1010 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 1: people's characters and say, Okay, we don't want to be 1011 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: that um moving forward, we want to be better than that. 1012 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 1: We want characters on this show to be better than that. 1013 00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:33,839 Speaker 1: And so Christ and does before we break you here, 1014 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: because I know you have to get going, how as 1015 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,200 Speaker 1: fans of the show, do you handle people that you 1016 00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 1: get really angry with? Oh man, how do we handle 1017 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: this show that we get really don't handle people on 1018 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 1: the show that we get angry with? Do we give 1019 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: them the benefit of the doubt? Christ just drinks more wine. 1020 00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 1: That's a good answer. I play yeah, I play that. 1021 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 1: I wonder what producers asking that question? Yeah, we know, 1022 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 1: even rewinds to listen. I'm like, give it, give it up. 1023 00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: Jared and I are constantly rewinding, trying to find like 1024 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: edit points. Yeah, um, how to handle it? I don't 1025 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:12,879 Speaker 1: even know. To be honest, it's easy, Okay, so it's 1026 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: really easy. It's critical. Yeah, it's super easy to be critical. 1027 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: But then I guess we always have to remember that. 1028 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 1: There's always like if someone's starting to become the villain, right, 1029 00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: we know, right, the four of us know that that 1030 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:30,280 Speaker 1: conversation is now always being had in the house, like 1031 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: did you hear that so and so did this? And 1032 00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: it's like why do you guys when you guys talk 1033 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: about that for a second? So everything is just more fightened. Yea, 1034 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 1: So maybe they weren't that bad of a person, but 1035 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: now it's become so bad. So we all we have 1036 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,880 Speaker 1: to remember that. Yeah. 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There's only maybe 1068 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,760 Speaker 1: three people in the world I would be really nervous 1069 00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: to talk to, and this guy is one of them, 1070 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: which is weird because he's also one of the most accepting, 1071 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: loving people that I've ever heard about or read from. 1072 00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,960 Speaker 1: The next guest on this podcast is my favorite author. 1073 00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: He's also just one of my favorite human beans. And 1074 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: I think you'd probably hate it if he heard me 1075 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:06,280 Speaker 1: say that. Um. This guy is the one that that 1076 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: whose book led me to choose to be love. And 1077 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is his book was the 1078 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: one that made me convicted and also inspired to say, 1079 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose love above anything else in this world, 1080 01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,560 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do it. Um in the name of faith, 1081 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: in the name of people, Um, and I believe that 1082 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: love will bring the most joy in life. And and 1083 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 1: so he's the one that led me to that. Our 1084 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,960 Speaker 1: next guest is um Bob Goff. Bob Goff is an 1085 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:34,040 Speaker 1: author of the New York best selling book Love Does. 1086 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,720 Speaker 1: He's also the U. S Department of State recognizes but 1087 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,880 Speaker 1: Bob Golf as a diplomat, and he is known as 1088 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:43,440 Speaker 1: the Honorary Consul for the Republic of Uganda due to 1089 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:46,360 Speaker 1: his work with Love Does, formerly known as Restoring or National, 1090 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization he founded. Bob Goff is on the nine. Now, 1091 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: Bob Goff, are you out there? Hey, get to hear 1092 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,280 Speaker 1: your point. How you doing? Oh? Mr Goff, you don't 1093 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: understand how excited I am to talk to you. This 1094 01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: guy is blessed out of his chair right now. He's 1095 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,680 Speaker 1: just he's so smiley. I've never seen him so smiley. 1096 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys are connected on here. Ah, 1097 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,720 Speaker 1: this is really good. That's so glad we're talking a 1098 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 1: little bit. Um. It's it's hilarious, Bob, because as we're 1099 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,560 Speaker 1: prepping for this conversation, one of the people that help 1100 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 1: out with this show putting on this almost famous podcast. 1101 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Tory uh texted me and she says, I'm gonna cry. 1102 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for you. I'm also a huge fan 1103 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 1: of Bob Golf, and so you have fans, I mean 1104 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,439 Speaker 1: obviously all across the United States, my friends and Denver 1105 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: and my friends that I know, we're so excited for 1106 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,440 Speaker 1: this moment, for for me. Um. So, Mr Goff, I 1107 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,440 Speaker 1: want to start with this by saying, Uh, you know 1108 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,919 Speaker 1: what has inspired you in your life to write these 1109 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: books based on love? Yeah? I think I agree with you. 1110 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,000 Speaker 1: It's kind of like those are the things that are 1111 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: gonna laugh. And I spent my entire career as a 1112 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: lawyer winning arguments, you know, if we were arguing, because 1113 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: I win it. But I just decided at some point 1114 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: along that that that isn't going to actually last, all 1115 01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: these arguments that actually loving some people and loving people 1116 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,280 Speaker 1: without an agenda, Like as soon as your love has 1117 01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,360 Speaker 1: an agenda, they love anymore. It's just another program. And 1118 01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: so we just started helping people out. You don't have 1119 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,760 Speaker 1: to go across the ocean to do that. You can 1120 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: go across the street. But wherever you go, just make 1121 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: to move and find somebody and then just actually see 1122 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: how you can be helpful to them. So a simple concept. 1123 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,760 Speaker 1: People have been doing it for century. They were doing 1124 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: it long before you and I got here and long after. 1125 01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 1: But there's something about being super purposeful about it, just 1126 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 1: to say I'm gonna actually take one thing and uh, 1127 01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,240 Speaker 1: and then just go a little bit deeper with it. 1128 01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 1: And for us, it was schools in countries that have conflict, 1129 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,400 Speaker 1: if there was an ongoing civil war, that we would 1130 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: start a school there. And and we're actually we're the 1131 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 1: students most of the time. We're learning at time as 1132 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: we go the blame while we're flying at most of 1133 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,240 Speaker 1: the time. It's it's absolutely incredible. And a lot of 1134 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: people on this podcast, you know, we have half a 1135 01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,240 Speaker 1: million listeners every week, and a lot of them have 1136 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of walked this journey with with Ashley and I. 1137 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: And one thing they've always asked is you know what 1138 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: has inspired you? What books inspired you? And I know, 1139 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this or not, but 1140 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Love Does. And you've recently came out with a book 1141 01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 1: called Everybody Always that I'm right in the heart of 1142 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,800 Speaker 1: right now. But Love Does is the book that really did. 1143 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: As I said at the beginning, I was on a 1144 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,920 Speaker 1: mountain uh in Wyoming, Buffalo, Wyoming, and I was reading 1145 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: it and I said, from that moment forward, even though 1146 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,520 Speaker 1: it might be tough at times, I'm going to choose 1147 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 1: to love because you convinced me in your argument that 1148 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: love was the best answer. And so I want to 1149 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,840 Speaker 1: ask you, why do you believe love is the answer 1150 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,720 Speaker 1: to life? I think what I noticed, and I know 1151 01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,400 Speaker 1: you and Astley have noticed as well as that people 1152 01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:06,680 Speaker 1: try to all these other solutions for the most difficult 1153 01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: questions that are out there, but the one that seems 1154 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: to work is loving people, even when it doesn't appear 1155 01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:17,120 Speaker 1: like it's working. There's something that like outlasts all of us. 1156 01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,920 Speaker 1: If you actually love people, uh And if you you've 1157 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,640 Speaker 1: got to, if you're going to give away love, you 1158 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:26,120 Speaker 1: need to understand what love is. When my daughter was 1159 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,600 Speaker 1: in high school, I actually wanted her to be a nut. 1160 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: But so when the boys come by and asked you 1161 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,320 Speaker 1: to the problems, I told her to ask them what's 1162 01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,200 Speaker 1: your definition of love? And because they're guys, they won't know. 1163 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,960 Speaker 1: They send them home and think about what love is. 1164 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: And when they know what love is, telling you and 1165 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,600 Speaker 1: then you'll decide if you go to the problem with 1166 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,360 Speaker 1: them and if they come back and say, it's like butterflies. 1167 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 1: But if you can get that from bad pizza. But 1168 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: love is sacrifice and commitment. And if we can figure 1169 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: out and we know that loving people sacrifice and commitment 1170 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: and just get past whether how it deals at the 1171 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: particular time, then that's been super helpful to me. It 1172 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,439 Speaker 1: helps me when there's been a couple of days where 1173 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 1: I've tried really hard at something and then it actually 1174 01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 1: hasn't turned out and I go like, no, no, I'm 1175 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: not doing it for the applause. Is if you want 1176 01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 1: to applause, join the circus. If you actually want to love, 1177 01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,680 Speaker 1: just be prepared to commit to something and do whatever 1178 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,600 Speaker 1: it takes to get there. And I think that's where 1179 01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: the longest relationships I've had, you've had, have been founded on, 1180 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: like people that have sacrificed and we're committed to us. 1181 01:05:33,040 --> 01:05:36,400 Speaker 1: What did the prom did come back and say, oh, yeah, 1182 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: yeah that the boys put circle around? And actually, what's 1183 01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,760 Speaker 1: beautiful if there's a beautiful betting that happens if you 1184 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 1: can actually kind of define the terms of your discussion 1185 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 1: by by actually having vulnerable conversation to say, like this 1186 01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,640 Speaker 1: is literally what I'm looking for. If it's just the 1187 01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:57,240 Speaker 1: feelings all that and look, go bowling, but you actually 1188 01:05:57,280 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: want to go do life together, then let's under stand 1189 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: what we're aiming for. What's that beautiful thing on the horizon, 1190 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: the dreaming for. I met sweet Maria Goffe thirty two 1191 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 1: years ago. She wouldn't go out of a date with 1192 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:14,960 Speaker 1: me for three years, look like this crazy air and 1193 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 1: all that, But he saw who I was turning into. 1194 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 1: And that's one of the things that's been helpful for me. 1195 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 1: If there's somebody that's been kind of difficult, I just 1196 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 1: think to myself, I wonder who they're becoming about who 1197 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: they used to be. The people that I think have 1198 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: shaped me the most were people that believed in me 1199 01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 1: and uh that even though I was kind of a 1200 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: rough draft of the first I was going to become, 1201 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,400 Speaker 1: they saw the guy of turning into and that's what 1202 01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: people who are like. To your point, then people who 1203 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,800 Speaker 1: are turning into love one of the hallmarks about them 1204 01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,440 Speaker 1: they see who the people around them are turning into. 1205 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: H I mean, Bob, you know we have a lot 1206 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,560 Speaker 1: of people, um that listen to podcasting right in about 1207 01:06:56,600 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: relationship advice. Uh, just in terms of both romance and 1208 01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:03,920 Speaker 1: personal in their life with their family. UM. You've been 1209 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: known to deal with people and some of the most 1210 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,760 Speaker 1: some of the life's hardest situations, UM be that from 1211 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:14,240 Speaker 1: divorce to sickness to illness. In your book Everybody Always, 1212 01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 1: there's there's a beautiful story of how you you loved 1213 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 1: on your neighbor during an illness. And one of the 1214 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 1: things that that we've been asked as people write in 1215 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 1: is how do you maintain a joy or how do 1216 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: you find fulfillment in life's hardest situations? Um? And oftentimes 1217 01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,480 Speaker 1: I struggle answering that. So I was going to push 1218 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:34,680 Speaker 1: that to you to see if you could help our 1219 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,960 Speaker 1: listeners out. Yeah. The first thing that occurred to me 1220 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: when you frame that was to look beyond the auvious. UM. 1221 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:46,400 Speaker 1: So sometimes there would be an immediate audi answer, even 1222 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:49,320 Speaker 1: to one of the most difficult circumstances, and to say 1223 01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 1: is there's something deeper here that I can understand. One 1224 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: of the things I've learned from writing books is that 1225 01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,600 Speaker 1: the best chapter title come later. And I turned in 1226 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Everybody Always, I turned it in. There's no chapter titles. 1227 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:09,440 Speaker 1: They're like bloody you forget something. I'm like, no, no, no, no. 1228 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,600 Speaker 1: The better titles will come later. And so let's say 1229 01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:16,000 Speaker 1: there's a circumstance where some of your listeners he has 1230 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:21,760 Speaker 1: experienced rejection and where you would stay, uh, you know, 1231 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,599 Speaker 1: that's the title of that chapter. Actually, if you give 1232 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,200 Speaker 1: it a little while, you'll probably retitle that thing more 1233 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: accurately released, or some time where you've had something that 1234 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:33,880 Speaker 1: you really worked on. I built a launch. It took 1235 01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:37,760 Speaker 1: me twenty years to build this thing. A couple of 1236 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:42,759 Speaker 1: guys made a mistake, confirmed it to the ground grass 1237 01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,240 Speaker 1: and one of the things that would have titled that 1238 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 1: chapter I'm out. But I gave that a little while 1239 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,120 Speaker 1: we're rebuilding this thing, and I would more accurately title 1240 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 1: that chapter I'm back. And so one of the things 1241 01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:57,040 Speaker 1: that has been super helpful is to just stay to 1242 01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,759 Speaker 1: flow down and just say there's a better chapter title 1243 01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:04,160 Speaker 1: for this um that then the one that occurs to 1244 01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:09,400 Speaker 1: you right away, the uh for everybody out there listening. UM. 1245 01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:13,160 Speaker 1: I love reading from Bob because he has this infectious 1246 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 1: joy about him, in this sense of humor towards life, 1247 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 1: and he's been involved in so many different stories. Bobby, 1248 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: you constantly write in your books about these interactions with people, 1249 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: and you're able to kind of process the interaction and 1250 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: then then tell the story clearly and concisely so that 1251 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: the reader, UM can learn from them. I think as 1252 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,439 Speaker 1: I read your books sometimes I get envious, honestly, because 1253 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:40,320 Speaker 1: your life has been full of so many interactions that 1254 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,880 Speaker 1: are so meaningful. If I am asking you, I want 1255 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,479 Speaker 1: to have these meaningful actions. I want my life to matter. 1256 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,200 Speaker 1: I want to leave a legacy. UM, you've been able 1257 01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 1: to do that, and you do that in a way 1258 01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 1: that's been shared with so many. How Oh, I think 1259 01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:59,880 Speaker 1: the like perhaps you and Ashley and the people listening, 1260 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm paying attention to what's happening. I get easily distracted. 1261 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I'm like that dog in up I was I hooked up. 1262 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 1: We got this two thousand one suburban and I cooked 1263 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,799 Speaker 1: the trailer up to we started driving from San Diego 1264 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,000 Speaker 1: towards Canada. And I was driving up the road and 1265 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 1: if you ever had it happened to where you're wondering 1266 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,080 Speaker 1: if you locked the door, turned the oven off, and 1267 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,679 Speaker 1: I just couldn't remember putting the latch on the trailer, 1268 01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,719 Speaker 1: so I didn't sm on the brakes. I bumped the brakes, 1269 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I pulled off to the side. And this is after 1270 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,439 Speaker 1: having traveled quade away. I pulled up this night. Sure enough, 1271 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,960 Speaker 1: the latch wasn't on the trailer, and I was one 1272 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: bump in the road away from having nothing past me 1273 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,600 Speaker 1: in the fast lane. And well, it looked like I 1274 01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 1: was hooked up to that trailer. I wasn't actually cooked 1275 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,760 Speaker 1: up to that trailer. And so we're all looking for 1276 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: the same thing in our life, love and purpose and 1277 01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 1: connection and a couple of authentic relationships. And I think 1278 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 1: the way that you put a latch on it is 1279 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: to be intentional and purposeful, to say, what's actually gonna 1280 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,120 Speaker 1: outlast What are some of the things like this idea 1281 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,400 Speaker 1: that you're known for your opinions, but you're remembered for 1282 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: your love, like that would outlast me. So what I'm 1283 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,760 Speaker 1: trying to do is put a latch on those things, 1284 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 1: and we try to do it in different things, big 1285 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:22,200 Speaker 1: and small. And what you do is you'll find the 1286 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:25,720 Speaker 1: things you're looking for. I wanted at nineteen seventy one 1287 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Volks so I can, but I haven't even thought about 1288 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,639 Speaker 1: one of those for thirty years. As soon as I decided, 1289 01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 1: I wanted at nineteen US. Every third car is a 1290 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,200 Speaker 1: nineties you weren't volks But because you'll just find this 1291 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,439 Speaker 1: thing you're looking for. So if you're looking for a 1292 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,840 Speaker 1: great stories to help you make sense of your life, 1293 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you'll go like you'll have 1294 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,120 Speaker 1: a way to like in context to say, I want 1295 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,280 Speaker 1: to put a latch on these things that I believe. 1296 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 1: For some of your listeners, faith might be a big 1297 01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: deal for it. Put a latch on it by actually 1298 01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:00,840 Speaker 1: doing things like and it's nothing because like I want 1299 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 1: you to do them a big one and like you 1300 01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,120 Speaker 1: know a favor by doing something nice. But it's like 1301 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,880 Speaker 1: to put a latch on everything you believe by actually 1302 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,920 Speaker 1: putting it into action. And so that's what I'm trying 1303 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:14,680 Speaker 1: to do every day, And I write down. I have 1304 01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:17,080 Speaker 1: a practice, and I think that's what I've noticed about 1305 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:21,880 Speaker 1: people that have um more clarity on why they're doing 1306 01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:24,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing. I right down the things that I'm 1307 01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 1: observing during the day. I did. I send myself a 1308 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,439 Speaker 1: hundred emails a day? Is that crazy? Him? I get home, 1309 01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm like him again. Walk. But what I'll do is 1310 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: take everything I think about everything and I'll put it 1311 01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,000 Speaker 1: all in one place. I have a document. It's one 1312 01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,800 Speaker 1: point six billion words. Log is that crazy? Everything I 1313 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: think about everything? So even this morning, I've spent the 1314 01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,240 Speaker 1: first hour just reflecting on some of these things to say, 1315 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,519 Speaker 1: like who's the guy I want to be? Like what 1316 01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:57,240 Speaker 1: is it that I want to um leave behind? Who 1317 01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:59,120 Speaker 1: is it that I want to do? And that gives 1318 01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 1: me some focus? What am I going to do today? 1319 01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:04,599 Speaker 1: I know why I'm doing what I'm doing, I asked 1320 01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 1: I where if you ever see a photograph of me, 1321 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: you'll always see me wearing a Boston Red Sox cat. 1322 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: And I'm not a Red Sox fan. I've actually never 1323 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,479 Speaker 1: gone through games. But my neighbor across the way, Carol, 1324 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:20,160 Speaker 1: who you mentioned Ben, was a huge Boston Red Sox 1325 01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:24,200 Speaker 1: fan and she got cancer and we knew she started 1326 01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 1: this eternity long dance with Jesus at the end of 1327 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,559 Speaker 1: the week, and so I made a deal with her. 1328 01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:32,240 Speaker 1: I said, Carol, I'll wear your Red Sox hat for 1329 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 1: the rest of my life and represents the Red Sox 1330 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 1: here on earth. But in exchange, every time Jesus worked 1331 01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: by you in heaven, you need to mention my name 1332 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,599 Speaker 1: the deal. And so one of the things that if 1333 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,200 Speaker 1: you know why you're doing what you're doing, it'll give 1334 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: you some great perspective. You start seeing what you're looking for. 1335 01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,439 Speaker 1: I've got no less pocket than any of my pants. 1336 01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,200 Speaker 1: Ben try this actually YouTube cut out all the left 1337 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,879 Speaker 1: pockets in your pants. Because everything needs to believe. Everything 1338 01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,320 Speaker 1: that's your life is the sum of everything you're hanging 1339 01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: onto and everything you're willing to let go up. So 1340 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 1: if I want to hang onto something, I put in 1341 01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,560 Speaker 1: my right pocket, but I put my car keys on 1342 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: my left pocket. I'm taking uber because I don't even 1343 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 1: though they're gone. And that's the beautiful thing. Somebody says 1344 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 1: something kind of hurtful to me, somebody, Uh, there's a misunderstanding. 1345 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: I just immediately think to myself, left pocket. And so 1346 01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:33,120 Speaker 1: this whole idea, if you have these practices that have 1347 01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:36,760 Speaker 1: become like routines for you, those will be the ones 1348 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 1: that actually will continue to give context for your life. 1349 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,439 Speaker 1: Do you really cut your pockets? He doesn't. Literally, no, 1350 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 1: no jeans. The jeans I've got on right now, left pocket. 1351 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm telling you a bad bad it just shows up. 1352 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 1: He is he is the best. This is this guy 1353 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: he will rock your world. Anybody out there listening, make 1354 01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,320 Speaker 1: sure you pick up Love Does or everybody always UM 1355 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 1: and and just either listen to it or read it. 1356 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:09,160 Speaker 1: It has completely transformed my life. And and not this 1357 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: weird way, like a really good way. I'm not asking 1358 01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,400 Speaker 1: you to read this so that you'll come out of 1359 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,439 Speaker 1: it like some you know, crazy Christian that you've never 1360 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 1: thought you'd be. No, it's just like it enhances life 1361 01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,880 Speaker 1: to a level UM that I never knew existed. UM Bob, 1362 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,160 Speaker 1: I know that you're a busy guy. I really appreciate 1363 01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,000 Speaker 1: you coming on. But before you go, UM. Our good 1364 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:29,080 Speaker 1: friend Ashley I Ken Eddie, who is a co host 1365 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,640 Speaker 1: on this podcast UM, has recently gotten engaged. We've all 1366 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:37,120 Speaker 1: witnessed this engagement on tv UM this last week. She's 1367 01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,479 Speaker 1: getting ready to enter into UM a life with one 1368 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,560 Speaker 1: of my favorite people in the world. Jared, do you 1369 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,480 Speaker 1: have any advice for Ashley as she begins this new season. Oh? Absolutely. 1370 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,400 Speaker 1: One of the things that I thought I needed to 1371 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:56,800 Speaker 1: do is uh be really active, and I uh substituted 1372 01:15:57,080 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 1: or mistook having a purposeful life or a really active life. 1373 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,680 Speaker 1: And what I did is I was running all over 1374 01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:05,680 Speaker 1: the world and trying to help out people and all that. 1375 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 1: And I pulled into the driveway of our home and 1376 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,559 Speaker 1: this woman sweeper up who's been has never raised her 1377 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,519 Speaker 1: voice verst that across word to me in the thirty 1378 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: five years I've been loving her, or the thirty two 1379 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:21,360 Speaker 1: she's been loving me back. She had the libry and 1380 01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:26,439 Speaker 1: in the window is a help wanted side. She wasn't 1381 01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: saying she needed help. She was saying I needed help. 1382 01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:32,640 Speaker 1: And so one of the things that I do is 1383 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 1: I go somewhere to speak during the day. So drop 1384 01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:38,679 Speaker 1: me off at five fifteen every single morning and fly somewhere, 1385 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: will say something, and I fly home for supper. And 1386 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,320 Speaker 1: the next day he drops me up at five fifteen. 1387 01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,040 Speaker 1: I go somewhere at why home. And we never talk 1388 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,200 Speaker 1: about geography. She doesn't know if I make Cleveland or 1389 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:56,439 Speaker 1: Cleveland or invern wherever, because when people ask her where's Bob, 1390 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,320 Speaker 1: she says, he's on his way home. And so, my, 1391 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 1: oh my, like blessing on you in this beautiful marriage 1392 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,000 Speaker 1: will be that you would continue to run home to 1393 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,760 Speaker 1: each other. I don't be efficient in the way that 1394 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:12,400 Speaker 1: you love each other. Be present. It's like must be present. 1395 01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:17,000 Speaker 1: To win. So and I've learning that that idea. If 1396 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,240 Speaker 1: you guys have a family in the future, that not 1397 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 1: gets confused that providing your for your family means going 1398 01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,280 Speaker 1: everywhere else, because sometimes you run away to do these 1399 01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,759 Speaker 1: things providing for your family, and you're actually not providing 1400 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:32,320 Speaker 1: for your family. And so just keep run at home 1401 01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 1: to each other. I know you will. I love that advice. 1402 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:43,040 Speaker 1: Thank you here, geocash everything. Geocash greet my daughter when 1403 01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,640 Speaker 1: he was getting bored and Maria had some she was 1404 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:47,559 Speaker 1: in a lot of pain. So I was writing a note, 1405 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,000 Speaker 1: but we know flavor my daughter was going to be 1406 01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 1: Dear lindsay, I forgive you for writing the cars I 1407 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 1: love Dad and putting in a pickled jar and aarreing it. 1408 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:03,439 Speaker 1: And then eighteen years later my daughter wrecked the car 1409 01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,280 Speaker 1: instead a thing, the predictable thing like to be more 1410 01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,960 Speaker 1: careful and all that. I gave her a shuffle in 1411 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 1: the lattest dude longitude. I told her where to dick 1412 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,320 Speaker 1: and then she got the jar up. She's like, Dad, 1413 01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:22,600 Speaker 1: you're predaves me before I was born. That's adorable. Do that? 1414 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,920 Speaker 1: Do you cast him? Great? You could write notes to 1415 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,000 Speaker 1: your kids, your future children and they were paying for 1416 01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,439 Speaker 1: your student alone. And if you change your mind, just 1417 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:37,040 Speaker 1: don't tell where it is. That's so cute. It's well, 1418 01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:40,240 Speaker 1: Mr Goff, we appreciate you man, thank you so much 1419 01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,400 Speaker 1: for coming on here. Hey, before you go, Actually, you 1420 01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:43,800 Speaker 1: want to hear the and everybody and stud you want 1421 01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,080 Speaker 1: to hear the coolest thing I think about Bob on 1422 01:18:47,160 --> 01:18:49,559 Speaker 1: the back of his very first book, Loved Us, which 1423 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 1: was again a New York Times best selling book, and 1424 01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 1: he hears this all the time. He put his real 1425 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:57,000 Speaker 1: phone number so people that read the book could contact 1426 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:01,360 Speaker 1: him to ask him questions. No way, Oh it's been terrific. 1427 01:19:01,479 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 1: I've got a hundred calls a day. I think you're 1428 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 1: a very special man. Their idea in terms of like 1429 01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:14,559 Speaker 1: people who are turning into love, people don't follow a vision. 1430 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,559 Speaker 1: They follow availability. I don't mean Facebook follow I mean 1431 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 1: just the impact that people have had on me were 1432 01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the people who are most available to me. And so 1433 01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:24,640 Speaker 1: if we could be I'm never the smartest guy in 1434 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,880 Speaker 1: the room, but I could be the most available guy 1435 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:29,760 Speaker 1: in the room. And if we find our sweet spot 1436 01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,920 Speaker 1: in that in terms of availability, I would just look 1437 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,840 Speaker 1: into that and people feel really loved, absolutely awesome, Bob, 1438 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,080 Speaker 1: thank you again, and anybody out there listening, make sure 1439 01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:44,200 Speaker 1: you pick up love does or everybody always uh, I 1440 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: mean wherever books are sold, which is is probably Amazon 1441 01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 1: these days. UM. This means so much to me, more 1442 01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,960 Speaker 1: than uh, more than you probably understand. You have changed, 1443 01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:58,800 Speaker 1: enhanced um and spoken into my life from a very 1444 01:19:58,880 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 1: far distance, and today I got the opportunity to speak 1445 01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 1: to you in person, UM. And I will sleep very 1446 01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 1: well to night with a big smell on my face. 1447 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,479 Speaker 1: So Bob Goff, thanks coming to the podcast, and thanks 1448 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:13,080 Speaker 1: you guys. Just keep spread and hope and love like 1449 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 1: they going a hole in your pocket to get everywhere 1450 01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: because you got to go cut those left pockets out by. 1451 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that I'm like so obsession prone, which is 1452 01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:28,760 Speaker 1: probably the truth. 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I mean, the guy he just isn't infectious. 1478 01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:56,920 Speaker 1: And there's so many times uh in my life now 1479 01:21:57,200 --> 01:22:01,519 Speaker 1: where sometimes what what happens, you know, quite always makes 1480 01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,200 Speaker 1: sense on why you're doing it. And what Bob has 1481 01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:09,400 Speaker 1: taught me personally is that sometimes love doesn't make sense, 1482 01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:13,840 Speaker 1: both romantically, UM and just personally, and sometimes these things 1483 01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 1: are confusing. But if you choose to love, UM, a crazy, impactful, 1484 01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:25,040 Speaker 1: beautiful story seems to follow. Um. It's it's absolutely incredible 1485 01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,000 Speaker 1: what that guy has done for me. So that was 1486 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:30,000 Speaker 1: a special moment. And I only have the Almost Famous 1487 01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,240 Speaker 1: podcast to think and the platform this gives us, so 1488 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 1: that he actually reached out and he said, Hey, Ben, 1489 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 1: I hear you're a good big fan. I want to 1490 01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 1: come on your podcast. UM, So yeah, thanks, I heart 1491 01:22:40,479 --> 01:22:42,800 Speaker 1: Thanks Almost Famous Ash, thanks for being a co host. 1492 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,000 Speaker 1: That was cool for me. It was so cool. It 1493 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 1: was so cool looking at your face and hearing his 1494 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,280 Speaker 1: little anecdotes. What a what an adorable guy who makes 1495 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 1: makes me want to very things for my kids. You know, 1496 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,200 Speaker 1: one thing I take away and we can move on 1497 01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,200 Speaker 1: from Bob and for anybody out there listening, and this 1498 01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,479 Speaker 1: is good for for the Bachelor franchise. Is it kind 1499 01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 1: of goes back to what we're talking about. UM, one 1500 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:05,680 Speaker 1: thing two things that I really take away, and I'm 1501 01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 1: convicted of often is I need to be slower to speak, um, 1502 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 1: which is funny on a podcast, But I gotta be 1503 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,720 Speaker 1: intelligent with my words because I really got to say 1504 01:23:12,760 --> 01:23:15,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, um, And and part of that is 1505 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,639 Speaker 1: being intentional. And I think when he talks about bearing 1506 01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 1: notes for his kids or the way he loves his wife, 1507 01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:21,360 Speaker 1: for the things that he does, all of it has 1508 01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 1: intention and purpose behind it. And that's one thing I've 1509 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,960 Speaker 1: taken with me is making sure that everything I do, 1510 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 1: from the biggest to the smallest things have an intention 1511 01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:32,479 Speaker 1: and a purpose. And when they do, I will care 1512 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 1: about them a little bit more and they will make 1513 01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:37,920 Speaker 1: more sense to me. So um, yeah, I think that's 1514 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:40,280 Speaker 1: cool and it's good for anybody listening. And the next Bachelor, 1515 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,599 Speaker 1: whoever that is, that will be my advice to him 1516 01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:43,960 Speaker 1: on the show, Um, if I get to go on 1517 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,960 Speaker 1: and speak to him, or before when I give him 1518 01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,000 Speaker 1: a call. It will just make sure that everything you 1519 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,599 Speaker 1: do on this show, every single decision you make, from 1520 01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:52,120 Speaker 1: a rose that you hand out, to a breakup that 1521 01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,560 Speaker 1: you're part of, to a date that you're in, that 1522 01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 1: it has intention and it has purpose, because if not, 1523 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 1: this whole thing will be meaningless, and we don't want 1524 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,040 Speaker 1: three months of your life to be meaningless. That's too 1525 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,760 Speaker 1: much time. Well back to that topic, Ben, I think 1526 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,800 Speaker 1: we need to touch on two things before we go 1527 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:14,200 Speaker 1: about Bachelor in Paradise. Leo made a huge deal about 1528 01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Kevin quote tattling on him by accidentally, you know, telling 1529 01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:23,519 Speaker 1: Kendall without knowing that she didn't know yet that um. 1530 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 1: He also kissed Chelsea the same day that he went 1531 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,559 Speaker 1: on a date with Kendall. I don't know how Leo 1532 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,760 Speaker 1: thinks he was gonna get away with this like tattling, 1533 01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,360 Speaker 1: and he made a huge deal of it. It's like, dude, 1534 01:24:36,479 --> 01:24:40,519 Speaker 1: you're living within I don't even know, like a not 1535 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,280 Speaker 1: even like an eighth of a mile radius with twenty 1536 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:45,760 Speaker 1: other people. You don't think she's gonna find out. You're 1537 01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,920 Speaker 1: gonna call this tattling. Yeah, I mean, I think the 1538 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,120 Speaker 1: whole thing is kind of funny too, is I Mean, 1539 01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 1: there's definitely no perception here of the fact that it's 1540 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:58,120 Speaker 1: all on TV, Like yeah, Like that's the crazy part 1541 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:02,120 Speaker 1: to me, is you know this is being documented. At 1542 01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,800 Speaker 1: some point Kenda would have found out, yes, or like 1543 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:08,640 Speaker 1: the camera person tells the producer that you all know 1544 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,320 Speaker 1: that the producers are working with and against you, so 1545 01:25:11,479 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 1: the producer can do it and in interview segment and 1546 01:25:16,000 --> 01:25:17,240 Speaker 1: just go, what do you think that he kissed the 1547 01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,200 Speaker 1: other person? If no one quote tattled, right, uh, I 1548 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:22,960 Speaker 1: think they would have probably waited for her to find 1549 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:26,559 Speaker 1: out organically to the cast. But yeah, I mean, dude, 1550 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:30,559 Speaker 1: she's going to find out all the girls talk. Well, yeah, 1551 01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what who is he trying to what is 1552 01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,120 Speaker 1: he trying to prove? I mean that's a crazy part 1553 01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 1: of sometimes when I'm watching this, and this is kind 1554 01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,000 Speaker 1: of what I was trying to get to with Chris 1555 01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,439 Speaker 1: and Dees is I'm sitting at home and I'm like, 1556 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: I just and I handle it so poorly. Um, I 1557 01:25:43,680 --> 01:25:45,160 Speaker 1: wish I had a little more Bob Goth and me 1558 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 1: when I did this. But I'm like, I just want 1559 01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:50,960 Speaker 1: this guy to be better, like be better because none 1560 01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,600 Speaker 1: of this is going to be fulfilling. None of this 1561 01:25:52,800 --> 01:25:56,479 Speaker 1: is gonna is making him a better person. All it's 1562 01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,800 Speaker 1: doing is hurting people along the way. So it's just 1563 01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,400 Speaker 1: like this destroy dive path that is being caused because 1564 01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,759 Speaker 1: honesty isn't the first response. And I had a tweet 1565 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:06,960 Speaker 1: the other day that It kind of came to my 1566 01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:10,200 Speaker 1: mind as I was watching this exact scenario was um, 1567 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,479 Speaker 1: it said the best part about dating on TV, and 1568 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,479 Speaker 1: I just thought it was that it keeps you honest, 1569 01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,439 Speaker 1: It keeps you authentic, authentic, and it keeps you genuine 1570 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:21,120 Speaker 1: in all situations because you know it's gonna be showed back. 1571 01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 1: And that's great. That's profound, ben quite profound. Yeah, I'm 1572 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,439 Speaker 1: feeling profound today. I I am. Hey, you know what 1573 01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,760 Speaker 1: else is profound? Ashley clean teeth. 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The 1613 01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:42,800 Speaker 1: guy said, I'm all in with you, not interested in 1614 01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,360 Speaker 1: dating other guys, woke up the next morning said yes 1615 01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:49,280 Speaker 1: to a date with Cassandra, and then Angela goes, you 1616 01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,000 Speaker 1: told me last night that you were all and and 1617 01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,320 Speaker 1: didn't want to do anyone else. And then he goes, yeah, 1618 01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,719 Speaker 1: well I woke up this morning with a changed mind. 1619 01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,800 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, no, you saw 1620 01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,200 Speaker 1: Cassandra and you change your mind. Yeah. I wish he 1621 01:29:02,280 --> 01:29:06,200 Speaker 1: kind of just would have said that, like, yeah, I 1622 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:10,040 Speaker 1: told you that, but like does kiss Sander grow came in? 1623 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,280 Speaker 1: I mean, because Angela was kind of the the unspoken 1624 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Sweetheart of Paradise. In my opinions, she's so underrated, and 1625 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 1: we thought that's just gonna be such a big deal. 1626 01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:21,479 Speaker 1: On night one, I think like all the guys were 1627 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 1: into her, and then she's just quietly entered a relationship 1628 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 1: with Eric and we really haven't heard from her much 1629 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:30,000 Speaker 1: since it's It's it's a beautiful dilemma too, because they 1630 01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,200 Speaker 1: really got us fired up about their relationship. It was 1631 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:35,040 Speaker 1: so cute, their date was so meaningful, and they were 1632 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:38,200 Speaker 1: just all bubbly and kissy and talkie and doing everything 1633 01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,799 Speaker 1: that que couples do. And then all of a sudden 1634 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:47,360 Speaker 1: things change so quickly. And I mean, I wasn't a 1635 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,720 Speaker 1: fan of this situation. I am a fan of Eric. 1636 01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,640 Speaker 1: I've been around Eric a couple of times. I'm a 1637 01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,040 Speaker 1: fan of Eric. I I would love to ask Eric 1638 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:56,439 Speaker 1: at some point, and listeners out there, I wonder if 1639 01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:01,800 Speaker 1: Eric um it's proud of the situation now. I wonder 1640 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:05,320 Speaker 1: how he feels about this, because this was from from 1641 01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: my standpoint, this was a really not a manipulative situation. 1642 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't an angry situation. It was just one that 1643 01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 1: hurt watching. Also, why did he say yes right away? 1644 01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:17,439 Speaker 1: Why didn't he at least say I'm going to go 1645 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:19,320 Speaker 1: talk to Angela first and I'll get back to you 1646 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:22,439 Speaker 1: with an answer. He was so eager to say, yes, Yeah, 1647 01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:26,200 Speaker 1: where does this play out? I don't know. We will 1648 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,479 Speaker 1: find out soon. I mean we're like, what do you 1649 01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:31,360 Speaker 1: think it does? How do I think it plays out? 1650 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,000 Speaker 1: I think he's going to end up breaking up with Angela. 1651 01:30:35,439 --> 01:30:39,160 Speaker 1: I was so excited for her and him. I don't know, 1652 01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,599 Speaker 1: I get I really got into this one. You're right, 1653 01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:44,360 Speaker 1: maybe this is the best paradise ever, because like I 1654 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,120 Speaker 1: was really drawn into Joe. I was really in favor 1655 01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,639 Speaker 1: of Joe, which I think, jeez, can that guy lose? 1656 01:30:50,680 --> 01:30:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole country was in favor of Joe. 1657 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:57,479 Speaker 1: It's like James Franco smile, like just s he's got 1658 01:30:57,560 --> 01:31:01,280 Speaker 1: it ear to ear and then um, the Eric Angela 1659 01:31:01,400 --> 01:31:04,840 Speaker 1: relationship was one I was really rooting for. I thought 1660 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:06,720 Speaker 1: it was the one. I didn't feel like they had 1661 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:08,680 Speaker 1: a ton of chemistry that to be honest, on their 1662 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:12,920 Speaker 1: on their date the night before, Yeah, it didn't seem 1663 01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,519 Speaker 1: didn't seem like they were like playing the part of 1664 01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:19,360 Speaker 1: the couple on the like they really wanted to to 1665 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,120 Speaker 1: like feel that chemistry, but they really weren't. Maybe Eric 1666 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:25,000 Speaker 1: felt that. I mean, I mean, let's give him the 1667 01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:27,720 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt here and say maybe that's exactly why. Yeah, 1668 01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 1: but then why tell her that you're all in the 1669 01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:33,280 Speaker 1: night before? Oh? Because she was looking good and he 1670 01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:37,840 Speaker 1: got mixed up in his emotions and she who had 1671 01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:40,560 Speaker 1: the roses on that episode? On this coming episode, the 1672 01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:44,280 Speaker 1: guys had the roses. He gave it to her or 1673 01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:46,280 Speaker 1: she gave it to him. She gave it to him. 1674 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: And now and now with Cassandra, now he has the rose. Yeah. 1675 01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,080 Speaker 1: And so finally the t and cold and breakup we 1676 01:31:56,160 --> 01:32:00,800 Speaker 1: mentioned it before. Um, actually your heartbroken over this? Yeah? 1677 01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,320 Speaker 1: I just think, you know, maybe you'll see them again 1678 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:08,320 Speaker 1: on Bachelor in Paradise sex and who knows what will 1679 01:32:08,360 --> 01:32:10,800 Speaker 1: happen there. But doomed to fail from the start, Well 1680 01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:13,879 Speaker 1: that's what people say the bachelor if he's the bachelor. 1681 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:17,560 Speaker 1: Oh no, she will not She will not embarrass or 1682 01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:19,840 Speaker 1: stuff like that. She will not do that. She would 1683 01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,280 Speaker 1: not do that. Why if she loves him so much? Yeah, Well, 1684 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,120 Speaker 1: she knows that she's been rejected by him and that 1685 01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,800 Speaker 1: she chose to not be with her, So she's not 1686 01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:33,240 Speaker 1: going to go on. I don't know if now there's 1687 01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:37,040 Speaker 1: twenty four other girls, four other girls to compete with 1688 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 1: again and the whole thing. What if he asks and 1689 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,280 Speaker 1: he's like, I'd like to you to be there so 1690 01:32:43,439 --> 01:32:46,360 Speaker 1: I can further explore my confusion to enter in the 1691 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,639 Speaker 1: Oh really no, after going through whether or not you're 1692 01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,960 Speaker 1: the one, I have a really nice proposal for you 1693 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,320 Speaker 1: to how about you come on to the show so 1694 01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:01,400 Speaker 1: that we can continue this relationships amongst everybody else because 1695 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:04,519 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure yet, Ashley. Before we end here, 1696 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: what a cool podcast. We got to talk to Chris 1697 01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,599 Speaker 1: and dez um. We we got to talk to one 1698 01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,559 Speaker 1: of my favorite authors, one of just my favorite people, 1699 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Bob Golf. I mean, that's that that hits deep. My 1700 01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,160 Speaker 1: hands were actually sweaty the whole time. Um, but we 1701 01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:19,800 Speaker 1: we kind of skimmed over it. And it was a 1702 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:21,680 Speaker 1: little bit on purpose because I need to take a 1703 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,840 Speaker 1: second to say it was so cool that you allowed 1704 01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:25,960 Speaker 1: the world to watch the I don't know, if you 1705 01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,519 Speaker 1: really had a choice, I wouldn't have wanted to be 1706 01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,120 Speaker 1: proposed to any other way I got. I got the 1707 01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:36,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to see you get proposed to um, And I 1708 01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,479 Speaker 1: want I want you to have a little bit of 1709 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,639 Speaker 1: a time here to tell the audience that the listeners 1710 01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,800 Speaker 1: who have been with us really since the beginning, what 1711 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,479 Speaker 1: that feels like, what that felt like, and just remind 1712 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,080 Speaker 1: everybody that you still are very much in love. All 1713 01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,600 Speaker 1: there is this point in paradise to where I just 1714 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:53,760 Speaker 1: thought that Jared and I we were I was like, oh, 1715 01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,880 Speaker 1: there's no hope, but I'm gonna ask this guy random 1716 01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:00,320 Speaker 1: questions and he goes, I go, um, where are you 1717 01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,600 Speaker 1: going to propose to your future wife? One day? And 1718 01:34:02,680 --> 01:34:06,120 Speaker 1: then he goes, um, probably someplace that's special to both 1719 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,599 Speaker 1: of us? And you know, never what I have thought 1720 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: and thought that that that I would ask that question 1721 01:34:13,800 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 1: legit on the sand of the place that three years 1722 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,479 Speaker 1: later we would be getting engaged on. 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