1 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Sabor production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm Anny Reese and I'm Lauren Bogle Bam, and today 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: we have an episode for you about mangoes. Yes, I 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: love mangoes, me too. I agree with the sound that 5 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: you just made. Yes. Was there a particular reason they 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: were on your mind? Yes, because right now it is 7 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: early March, and that is like prime a thoughtful mango 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: season here in the southern United States, where they are 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: imported from Mexico. They're they're the smaller yellow mangoes, and 10 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: they're so good and right now they're so relatively inexpensive 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: and like they're just crates of them at every supermarket 12 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: you go to, and they make me so happy. I'm 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: eating like too many of them. No such thing. Also, 14 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: just keep behind the curtains. It is storming here in 15 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Atlanta right now, so that loud thunderclaps, perhaps you might 16 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: hear that. No way echoes our thoughts on mangoes. Yes, 17 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,919 Speaker 1: So I remember the first time I had a mango. 18 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: I was in high school. Yes, yes, I'd never had 19 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: one before. A good friend of mine, still a good 20 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: friend of mine. She shares a birthday that's near mine, 21 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: and we were hanging out and doing these like pretty 22 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 1: birthday festivities her her mom was a chef, and um, 23 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 1: my friend cut these like thin slices of mango for 24 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: us to share, and I was absolutely for it. Like 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: I took one bite of it and it was so 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: bright and just bursting with flavor, and the texture was 27 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: so unique. It's kind of like melted when I bit 28 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: into it. Um, there's just like an explosion of flavor, 29 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: but like it really it was. Um. It was one 30 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: of the most vivid food experiences of my life. The 31 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: first time I tried mango. Oh I love this. Yeah, 32 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 1: it absolutely transported me. Um. And I don't get it 33 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: as often as I would like, but every time I 34 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: get it, I'm like equally happy. Oh yes, um. I 35 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: also love a good mango lossy. And we did see 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: some mango trees in Hawaii. I remember this. We left 37 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: like right before they started to ripen for that year, 38 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: and I am still mad about it. Like we kept 39 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: seeing like everywhere we went. I kept like clocking these 40 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: like still green, still slightly small mangoes on these big 41 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: gorgeous trees and I was like, mango one. But yes, 42 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: if you could not tell. I also love a mango. Um. 43 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: I was pretty familiar with them from having grown up 44 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: in South Florida. But um, but mostly the larger red 45 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: and green like Tommy Atkins type that are that are 46 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: commercially grown there. I think the first time that I 47 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: had a smaller yellow type was here in Atlanta. And 48 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: it's like, similarly to your experience, like changed my dayg life. 49 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: I was just like what how? Like how? Yes? So 50 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: much flavored, such a small package in every bite. I 51 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: love him. One of my one of my very favorite 52 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: things to do for lunch is to take like an 53 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: avocado and a mango and cut him up and like 54 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: put him over rice and put some pretty cockay on top, 55 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: and just that sounds so good. It's not actually extraordinarily filling, 56 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:58,839 Speaker 1: and I'm always mad at myself like two two hours later, 57 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: but but it's so delicious at the time in the moment. Yes, 58 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: all right, Well, I guess this brings us to our 59 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: question mangoes. What are they? Well, mangoes are a type 60 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: of fruit that grows on trees. They've got a thin, 61 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: inedible skin surrounding a juicy sweet tart, soft and kind 62 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: of slippery flesh and all of that surrounding a single 63 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: large pit that contains a single seed. Usually um. They're 64 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: about fist sized, depending on the size of your fist. 65 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: Um an oblong a sort of a semi flattish oval 66 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 1: or like a weird egg, often with a with a 67 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: curved beak shape at the end opposite from the stem. 68 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: The fruit is good raw or used for juice or 69 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 1: puree or cooked and right. It is just so bright 70 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: tasting like tropical and a little citrusy, a little bit 71 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: floral and or piney almost sometimes um, sometimes a little 72 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: bit puckery, like a stringent. It's sort of like a 73 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: like a sip of margarita. It's uh, it's like a 74 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: like a slip, slippy, little ray of sunshine. Yes, yes, agreed. Yes. 75 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: They are a member of the Anna cardiassier family, which 76 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: is related to cashews and pistachios and mango steams. You 77 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: can see our episodes on all of those um and 78 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: also related to poison ivy and poison oak and poison sumac. 79 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: This skin of mangoes does contain an irritant that some 80 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: people are very sensitive to. Um brie. If you're listening 81 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: to this, I'm so sorry, me too. Oh yeah, Oh, 82 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:50,479 Speaker 1: it's very unfortunate. Mm hmmm. Mango trees, though, are these 83 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: fairly large evergreen trees. They can grow up to about 84 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 1: like sixty five ft that's twenty uh and and they're 85 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: pretty with these a large shiny, dark green lea and 86 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: broad canopies good for shading and landscaping um in orchards. 87 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: Though the trees tend to be kept about half that size. 88 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: They can live and fruit for hundreds of years, and 89 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: the trees will produce these kind of cone shaped clusters 90 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: of of just a mess of tiny, often red and 91 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: white streaked flowers. Many are male, but some can and 92 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: will develop a fruit with right this this leathery skin 93 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: that will go from green when it's immature to anywhere 94 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: from yellow to gold to blush to orange and or 95 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: red as it grows and ripe. Ends and as I 96 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: alluded to earlier, there are two main branches of mango 97 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: fruit types, Indian subtypes and Southeast Asian subtypes. Indian subtypes 98 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 1: tend to be larger and rounder, with orange to red 99 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 1: skins when they're ripes, more fibrous fruit, and a monoembryonic 100 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: seed that will produce a single seedling. Meanwhile, these Southeast 101 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: Asian subtypes tend to be smaller and flatter, with a 102 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: yellow to golden skin when they're ripe, a softer fruit 103 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: and a polly embryonic seed that will produce one seedling 104 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: from both of its genetic parents, and then multiple seedlings 105 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: from like just its mother plant that are going to 106 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: be clones of its mother plant. So interesting, and there's 107 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: a lot of really cool genetic research that I don't 108 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: understand knowing that's going into all of this, but but 109 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: apparently some of the genetics are interesting because it seems 110 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: to have that the mango seems to have gone or 111 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 1: undergone multiple different like domestication events or um diversification events. 112 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. I knew I was 113 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: going to arrive at a word at some point. Also, 114 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: great gray cat says, hello, if you heard him jingling, 115 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: that was that was gray Cat. He's it's again, there's 116 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: a thunderstorm. He doesn't like thunders, so he's he's but 117 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: he's he's coping with it. Okay, good, Yeah, yeah, we 118 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: all say hello to you, gray cat. Gray cat says 119 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: minor glare that yeah yeah okay, um okay, but yeah, 120 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: so you get this fruit um when they are still unripe. 121 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: They're kind of um puckery and vaguely crunchy, and can 122 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: be sliced and used fresh and salads, or they can 123 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: be pickled right. Mangoes are much sweeter and softer and 124 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: can be used a fresh You can just eat one 125 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: or mix them into all kinds of sweeter savory dishes, 126 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: raw or cooked, but often raw, like salads and salcea's 127 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: and saviches and pull offs. You can put them in 128 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: rice puddings and frozen desserts and baked goods. Um. They're 129 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: also popular dried and seasoned, often with a spicy or 130 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: salty spice blends to them. There was, oh, there's there's 131 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: one that they make with them, uh, like sour plum 132 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: that's popular out in Hawaii that I bought a lot of. Yeah, 133 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: and some like chili pepper in They're all so good. 134 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: And the juice and or pulp is used in drinks 135 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: and desserts to flavor puddings and jellies and candies and 136 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: also savory sauces. So just a wide a wide variety 137 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: of really really really tasty things and a wide variety 138 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: of cravings I'm experiencing right now. Oh yeah, I have one. 139 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I have one mango left for my last shopping trip 140 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: and I've been saving it for after this episode. Excellent, 141 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: very smart, very very smart. I'm going to the store tomorrow, 142 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: so hopefully. Okay, okay, Well what about the nutrition? You know, 143 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: it depends on what you're doing with it, but by themselves, 144 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: mangoes are good for you. Um. They've got a good 145 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: punch of dietary fiber, a lot of itemins and minerals, 146 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: very little fat or protein um, and a lot of 147 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: sugar though so so, even though they will help fill 148 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: you up to keep you going, you should pair them 149 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: with a little bit of fat and protein, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 150 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: Going through all my favorite mango recipes right now, I 151 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: really I really just eat them like I never get 152 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: that far. Like I love like a like a mango 153 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: sticky rice, but I never I've never motivated to do 154 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: that much. I'm always just like that, I could just 155 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: eat it right now, like they could be kind of 156 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: a pain to handle. That was one of the for me. Again, 157 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: I have a small my my limit is early, um 158 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to preparation. But I do have a 159 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: good mango sauce recipe. I really like and I have 160 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:58,839 Speaker 1: a good like mango marinade recipue. Okay, all right, well 161 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: we do have some numbers for you. Yes, well, we 162 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: are not the only ones who like mangoes. Global mango 163 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: production has doubled in the past few decades. Over ninety 164 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: countries produce commercial mangoes, but India, China, Pakistan, Thailand, and 165 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: Mexico are the largest producers. Asia accounts for around seventy 166 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: seven of mango production, and if you go by the 167 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: number of countries that consume a given fruit, mango is 168 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: the most popular fruit in the world, though by tonnage, 169 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: bananas and apples and tomatoes are far ahead. Um As 170 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: of seventeen, the world was producing around forty three million 171 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: metric tons of mangoes a year. Bananas we're doing over 172 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: twice that. So yeah, yeah, h uh. India is home 173 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: to hundreds of varieties of the fruit, and according to 174 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: the Gastropod episode on them, some Indian expats will fork 175 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: out hundreds of dollars for just one air free container 176 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: of their favorite variety of mango. Uh and, if you're 177 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: interested in the episode is called Mango Mania. How the 178 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: American mango lost its flavor and how it just might 179 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: get it back. Um, and it actually touches on something 180 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm really really fascinated in, which is this sort of 181 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: idea that a lot of us might not have ever tried, 182 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: the true like beauty of a thing because it's um. 183 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely recommend it. Yeah. Yeah, I always always 184 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: recommend gas for pod They do such a good job. Yeah. 185 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: But right, thousands of local varieties are grown around the 186 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: world and basically never leave the areas that they're made in. 187 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 1: So if you're ever traveling to a tropical or subtropical 188 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: country and they seem to be producing local mangoes, seek 189 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: them out. Seek them out. Um. Meanwhile, the Guinness record 190 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: for the heaviest mango is for a specimen from Colombia 191 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: that weighed in at four point two five kilos that's 192 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: like nine point three six pounds from just last year. 193 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: The photos are amazing. It's like the size of a 194 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: human head. It's gigantic. Did they eat it? They did? 195 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: They did. Um. They first took like a took like 196 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: a mold of it to like to like preserve its majesty. Um. 197 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: But they said that it was it was very delicious 198 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: and healthy inside the fruit so yeah. Um. Meanwhile, oh, 199 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: going back to mango sticky rice um, which is a 200 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,439 Speaker 1: dessert that you make with you usually cook the sticky 201 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: rice and like some coconut milk, um, and then there's 202 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: diced mango and or like a mango pure sauce or 203 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: something going on there. But yeah, So the largest serving 204 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: of mango sticky rice serving in heavy scare quotes here 205 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: um went to the Tourism Authority of Thailand in twenty 206 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: nine for having made four thousand, five hundred kilos of 207 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: the stuff. That is like nine thousand, nine hundred and 208 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: twenty pounds, and that is quite a bit of mango 209 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: sticky rice single serving. I they said serving, it says serving, 210 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't think, like what, I'm not sure. I'm not sure, 211 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: but I love it. I would love like in Superhero 212 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: World if it was like regular serving size and it 213 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: was like they The pictures are great because because they 214 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: served it up with a decoration of mango on top 215 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: that's spelled out the words we care. Oh yeah, yeah, 216 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: I did see some mango art, actual pieces of the fruit, 217 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: not just people painting it. But I did see some 218 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: mango art during this research. So yeah, I'm into that. Yeah, 219 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: you know, we love some food based art over a year. 220 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely mm hmmm. A few places grow mangoes here in 221 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: the United States California, Florida, y e. In Puerto Rico. UM. 222 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: Mexico supplies to US with about eighty six of its 223 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: mango imports, and mango consumption is growing here in the 224 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: United States. Specifically, it increased about from two thousand five 225 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: through and uh was still on the rise as of 226 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: the time that that that that report came out right 227 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: around so yeah, mm hmm. In Europe, about a third 228 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: of the mangoes sold are imported through the Netherlands UM, 229 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: mostly having come from Brazil and Peru. Like the import 230 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: some two d and thirty thousand metric tons of mangoes 231 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: per year an export some two d and twelve thousand. Wow, 232 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: so a bunch. Apparently In Europe, Germany and the UK 233 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: consume the most by tonnage, the Portugal consumes the most 234 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: per capita. Mm hmm okay okay uh. And Mangoes are 235 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: the national fruit of Pakistan, the Philippines, and India, where 236 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: they are quite quite celebrated. Um. The mango tree is 237 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: the national tree of Bangladesh as well, and there are 238 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: yearly mango festivals in many places that grow them a curse. 239 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: Research turned up events in Florida in the Philippines where 240 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: you'll find us such things as dancing competitions and parades 241 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: and Guam, which awards prizes for the biggest, the most beautiful, 242 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: and the most bizarre mangoes on display. Mm hmm oh, 243 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: I gotta look more into this. I want to write 244 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: cants as the most beautiful, the most bizarre ye dancing competition. 245 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: I'm one, I'm in absolutely. I was reading about like 246 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: these um these like mango shaped and colored tricycles that 247 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: they bust out for the parade, and I want, I 248 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: want to I want to be there. Yes, our field 249 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 1: trip list is getting quite extensive, but both in fear 250 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: and very excited of it. So yes, yes. In the meantime, 251 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 1: we do have quite a history of the mango for you. 252 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: We do. But first we've got a quick break for 253 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors, and we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, 254 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: thank you. So. Mangoes do indeed of a law and 255 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: storied history. Historians believe that they originated in India and 256 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: or Southeast Asia, perhaps in multiple domestication events as you 257 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: said lauren Um, and that they have been cultivated there 258 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: for over four thousand years. However, some fossil evidence suggests 259 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: that the genus's origin tracks back over sixty million years. Yeah. Hum. Interestingly, 260 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: researchers think the seeds may have been spread by a 261 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 1: now extinct furiture. Yeah, like one of those mega fauna 262 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: type species that was like big enough that it would 263 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: have I mean, the same way that birds will eat 264 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: whole berries these days, and then like spread the seeds 265 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: by pooping. Um. That this was spread by something that 266 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: was big enough that it would have been eating whole 267 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: mangos and then pooping seeds. So I love this to 268 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: me too. I've also been on like a super deep 269 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 1: dive that I did not have time for to learn 270 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: more about this, but yes, it's very very interesting. Hindu 271 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: and Buddhist religious texts mentioned of the mango, as does 272 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: the Kama Sutra. In fact, one of the first known 273 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: written references to the mango dates back four thousand years 274 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: ago you Hindu scripture. In the early years of its cultivation, 275 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: growers selected for things like taste and size. Records indicate 276 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: that the mango was used culinarily medicinally, including as a 277 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: halfroud easy act saved with us now practically for things 278 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: like dies um as the inspiration for art um like 279 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: paintings and poetry, and perhaps it was known in some 280 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: circles as the food of the gauze and in others 281 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: the king of fruits and in others the apple of 282 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: the tropics um, with some overlap in there as well. 283 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: And definitely there are a lot of mango poems out there. 284 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: If you're interested, go hook them up. Yes, yes, yes, 285 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: it is said that Buddha meditated under a mango tree, 286 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: and or that he created one that his followers went 287 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: on to worship later um. And because of that, mango 288 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: trees were sometimes viewed as symbols of knowledge peace and 289 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: they mangoes also have the symbolic importance in the Jain 290 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,400 Speaker 1: religion as well. And just a side note, there are 291 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of tales about how loved the mango was 292 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: by leadership and royalty in India, some involving arresting relatives 293 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: for eating all of the mangoes. Yes, and extensive mango 294 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: grove plantings kind of like really extravagant mango grow plantings. Um. 295 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: It's hard to track down evidence to back up some 296 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: of these stories, most of these stories, but I think 297 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: it's safe to say people were into them, yes, yes, yes, um. 298 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: And there are so many legends about them. There's stories 299 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,159 Speaker 1: about gods of love, princesses being buried and sprouting a 300 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: mango tree, um, all kinds of things. And I would 301 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: really love, as always listeners if you would write in 302 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: because there seemed like there was a lot of traditions 303 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: around the trees and the leaves and the mangoes um 304 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: around the world, So please let us know. Yeah, yeah, 305 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: if you have a local one, Um, we would love 306 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: to hear about it. You absolutely would, yes. Uh. During 307 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: the fourth and fifth century b c e. Buddhist monks 308 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: may have transported the mango on journeys to Malaya and 309 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: Eastern Asia. Was kind of said is wherever Buddhist monks went, 310 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: the mango probably went as well. Um. The mango is 311 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: present in China by seventh century CE. Meanwhile, the Persians 312 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: might have carried it with them to East Africa and 313 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: tenth century CE. Outside of that, records indicate that the 314 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: gradual worldwide distribution of mangoes began in the sixteenth century. 315 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: The Portuguese are believed to have introduced the mango to 316 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: West Africa and Brazil during this time, for instance, and 317 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: to have reintroduced it to East Africa to rights and 318 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: from there the mango spread um and was in Barbados 319 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: in seventeen forty two, the Dominican Republic not long after, 320 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Jamaica by seventeen eighty two, in Mexico by the nineteenth century. 321 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: It's likely to have been introduced to Mexico from both 322 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: other spots around the Caribbean and from the Philippines. So 323 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 1: fun times, they're yes, yes, And as the mango traveled 324 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: around the world, so did grafting techniques used to grow them. 325 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: Uh And according to the Harvard Press, the first known 326 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: record of mango pickling comes from an eighteen oh six 327 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: dictionary that gave instructions in the process. Pickled mangoes are 328 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: popular in Hawaii, Australia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam and pretty 329 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: much anywhere as a bunch of mangoes before you yell 330 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: at me. There are regional and cultural differences of the 331 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 1: process and ingredients used. And I'm sure that people were 332 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: doing it before eighteen o six. I yeah, yes, this, 333 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I've tried, and I really want to. 334 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: Um oh, I know that I've had some like specific 335 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: dishes that incorporate a pickled mango, but now I am 336 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: failing to remember what and where. So this is a 337 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: really good story. Yes, it don't come to you. It 338 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: don't come to you later, I believe it. US mango 339 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: production began in eighteen sixty three when a man known 340 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: as Dr Fletcher sent mango seeds to Miami, Florida. Though 341 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: mangoes may have been introduced earlier, the first record of 342 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: them in Florida that we know of dates back to 343 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: keep Sable in eighteen thirty three um with mango seedlings 344 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: shipped by one doctor Henry Peren, but these seedlings died 345 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: after his own untimely death. Um Fletcher's shipment, however, produced 346 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: two trees, one of which was still fruiting in nineteen ten. 347 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: Around this time, South Florida had launched a pretty extensive 348 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,199 Speaker 1: breeding program that resulted in important commercial varieties like the 349 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: Tommy Atkins, Hayden kit and Kent Mango trees were being 350 00:23:54,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: planted in California by eighty Meanwhile, while they fact date 351 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: isn't known, mangoes are believed to have been introduced to 352 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 1: Hawaii in the eighteen twenties. In eighteen seventy five, forty 353 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: mango varieties from India were first planted in Australia and 354 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 1: then Uh. During China's Cultural Revolution that started in late 355 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties, Chairman Mao Zedong helped popularize the mango as 356 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: a symbol there. Uh he gifted thirty thousand workers he'd 357 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: sent to confront students at a university in Beijing with 358 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: forty mangoes after he himself had received one the day 359 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: before from Pakistan's foreign minister. And it's worth mentioning many 360 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: were injured and some died in the skirmish. Yeah, Because 361 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: most people in northern China were unfamiliar with mangoes, they 362 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: treasured these roots. Um they tried to figure out what 363 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 1: they were, might have viewed them as something bordering on magical. 364 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: Some people preserved them or made wax replicas of them. 365 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 1: If a mango started to rot, workers might boil it 366 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: in water and then divvy up the resulting like with 367 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:05,199 Speaker 1: Allegedly Uh. Mao didn't even like the fruit, but it 368 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: is now commonplace throughout China, and there's a lot of 369 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: interesting interviews you can read from older folks who have 370 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: seen kind of this progression of when the mango was 371 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,719 Speaker 1: so rare to now it being easy to get your 372 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: hands on. Yeah. Uh. Due to a variety of reasons 373 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: around things like quarantine and troop flies, Indian mangoes were 374 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: not allowed to be imported into the United States for 375 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 1: for a decent amount of time. The American band on 376 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Indian mangoes was lifted in two thousand and seven, but 377 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 1: the road to get there sounds like the makings of 378 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: an HBO show, at least to me in my food 379 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: centric mind. Um, failed mangoes smuggling, confusing jade agreements between 380 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: India and the US, and the swap of sorts of 381 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: mangoes for Harley Davidson motorcycles. Yeah cool right um. Meanwhile, 382 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: in recent years, climate change has been pretty hard on 383 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 1: some growing areas for mangoes, with crap production struggling in 384 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: places like Spain and Italy and Egypt which saw less 385 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: production last year but um. But then in other areas 386 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: like crop production was too high, like higher than they 387 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: knew how to handle um like in China, and pandemic 388 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: supply chain issues have been making imports and exports more 389 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 1: difficult to uh, and manga research is ongoing into how 390 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,640 Speaker 1: to breathe the heartiest, most flavorful variety, So like going 391 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: back to that Gastropod episode of kind of trying to 392 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: recapture this flavor while also keeping the heartiness of the 393 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: fruit and things like that. Yeah. Yeah, because once they 394 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: once they ripen um, they're a fairly delicate thing. You 395 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: can't really toss them around all that much um and 396 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: some of the right likes. As we've seen with a 397 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: lot of different types of produce, like as people bread 398 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: for more sturdy fruit, it didn't necessarily carry through the 399 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: traits of the tastiest fruit, and so that's kind of 400 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't need it, you know, hopefully it doesn't need 401 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: to be a trade off, and people are working on it, 402 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: Yes they are, And I am excited because I love 403 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: mango more mangoes. Ye, yes, indeed. Well I think that's 404 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: what we have to say about mangos for now. It is. 405 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: We do have some listener mail for you, but first 406 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: we've got one more quick break for a word from 407 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: our sponsors, and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you, 408 00:27:49,240 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: And we're back with listen like Sunshine Fighting into Sunshine, 409 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: which is funny because it really is rating pretty bad. Yeah, well, 410 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: Kate wrote, I've been listening to all the favorite episodes 411 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: from the beginning. Uh and I got up to Saffron 412 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 1: today I heard one of my favorite words, spider. I'm 413 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: Australian and as a true stereotype, I absolutely love spiders. 414 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: Don't worry. Most Australians are scared of spiders like the 415 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: rest of the world, but I find them to be 416 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: fantastic little animals. A long time ago, in a podcast 417 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: Far Far Away, you said animals with food names are great. 418 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: As such, I've named my pet red back spiders black 419 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: eyed pea pepper, popcorn, tomato, and cantaloni. Do you have 420 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: any more suggestions for black widow like spider with red stripe? Uh? Annie. 421 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: I hope you and your spider have a good living arrangement. 422 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: If you know what species it was, I would love 423 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: to know. And if you want spidy photos, I will 424 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: happily send them. I wanted to give you some warning first, though, 425 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: because people don't generally like surprise spiders in any four 426 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: so on another of my favorite topics, Lauren mentioned her 427 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: ginger girl cat in an episode perhaps the Miso episode 428 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: ginger female cats are quite rare. It's because the ginger 429 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: gene is linked to the X chromosome, so females need 430 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: to ginger jeens to be ginger, whereas male cats only 431 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: need the one. So your cat is rather special. She 432 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: is special, is certainly the correct word. Um. Oh uh yeah, 433 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: ginger girl cat um has unfortunately gone on a little 434 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise walk about. We we haven't we 435 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: haven't seen her in a few weeks here and so 436 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: we are all hoping very hard for her safe return. Um. 437 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: And uh, if any you wanted Atlanta finds a random 438 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: ginger girl cat, let us know. Um. But yeah, no, 439 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: we we've been We've been reaching out to all of 440 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: the shelters and stuff like that and have flaggers up. 441 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: So uh so any any any good thoughts um would 442 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: be would be appreciated. Her name is Trudy if you 443 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: if you need to incorporate that into your thoughts. And um, 444 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: she's Peruvian actually, she came to us from Peru Um, 445 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: where a friend's father picked her up on public transportation 446 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: and decided to adopt her and bring her back here. 447 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: Um uh. And from what I understand, the local population 448 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: of cats there does have a broader orange streak, so 449 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: maybe maybe that has something to do with the relative rarity. 450 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: Uh m hm hm. Well, yes, our savor thoughts with Trudy. 451 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: I hope she turns turns up from her walk about soon. 452 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh me too, me too. And uh, spider pictures. I 453 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: I would love spider pictures. Annie, I don't know how 454 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: you feel about that. Yes, no, I would too. Um. Okay, 455 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: so my spider situation, I need it next time the 456 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: spider emerges. So there's a spider for anyone who missed this. 457 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: And I'm sure some people are clicking out as fast 458 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: as they can. Um. There's a big spider that lives 459 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: like in the crease between my the wall and the ceiling. Um. 460 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: And she emerges every now and then when a moth 461 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: passes by, like silly malls or cockroaches. I'm always watching them, 462 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: like you fools, um, because she is she is brutal, 463 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: like she is a hunter. She just jerks out, wraps 464 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: them up, and then pulls them in. And I've backed 465 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: away cautious sleep before and I like spiders, but I 466 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 1: was in all hunter prowess that I was. Yeah, we're 467 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: on the same as long you're on the same team. Yeah. 468 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: Absolutely stays in her area and I'll stay in my 469 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: area and we're gonna be good. I I do like spiders, 470 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: but they do also I respect. I guess that's what 471 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, no, same same. Um. I understand 472 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: most of them have no intention of hurting me or 473 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: anyone else like they they don't. That's not that's not 474 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: what they're really after, you know, They're they're more just like, oh, 475 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: what's that very large thing? Why is it making so 476 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: many vibrations? I don't like it? Um uh but but yeah, no, 477 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: I love, I love, I actually really love like like 478 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: close up pictures of spiders with all of their cute 479 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: little eyes are a little they're a little fuzzy fuzzy 480 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: fuzz kins. You know. Yes, so we're saying, bring on 481 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: the spider pictures. What it sounds like? Yeah, oh goodness. Um, 482 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: then we've got a couple of short ones here. Um, 483 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: Summer wrote, I was listening to the Sunflower episode. You 484 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: talked about X files and spits brand sunflower seeds. In Canada, 485 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 1: we have a legit brand of sunflower seeds and other 486 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: snack items named spits. I guess they aren't in the US. 487 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: I love hearing about the different food brands and products 488 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: in US markets versus Canadian ones. Oh my heck, okay, 489 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: so I mean the X Files. First, several seasons were 490 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: filmed in Canada. So, UM, what I'm assuming has happened 491 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: here is that Spits and David are owned or David's, 492 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: whichever it is, UM are owned by the same company 493 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: in Canada and the US, and so that explains the 494 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: similar packaging UM. And that's just the brand that was 495 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: local to filming in Vancouver when they were filming, So 496 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: that makes sense. So after I read this letter, I 497 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: was in the grocery store and I looked at the 498 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: Sunflower Seas and I didn't see any Spits, but I 499 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: did see David's. I believe it was David's, and I 500 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: was like, m hmm, mystery, a mystery worthy of the 501 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: X File. Are just savor in a quick Google search. 502 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, I love I love being wrong. Keep it 503 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 1: keep it coming, y'all. All right, um, Albert wrote a 504 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: few episodes ago, you mentioned that you don't buy a 505 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 1: lot of milk because it goes to waste. Do you 506 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,600 Speaker 1: not have pint sized ultra pasteurized milk in Georgia. On 507 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: a side note, if you haven't done an episode on 508 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: pasteurization and ultra pasteurization, that might be interesting. M agreed. 509 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: We we talked some about it, and we did this 510 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: episode about types of milk a while back, and I 511 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: know that we touched on it in that um, And 512 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: we might have also touched it on it a little 513 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: it in like yogurt or something like that. Um, but 514 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 1: but I can't remember how deeply we got into it. Yes, 515 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: I think certainly worth another look. And this is in 516 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: response to something I said about how I felt like 517 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: I could never buy milk because I live alone and 518 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: it goes bad so quickly. Um, we do have these available, 519 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: but even so I don't use enough. Okay, Yeah, yeah, 520 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: I think if I planned for it, like if I 521 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: was like, this is the week where I eat cereal 522 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 1: and make pasta sauces with milk, I could. But in general, 523 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: it's just kind of like a a whim of I 524 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: really want cinnamon toast crunch this one time this whole year, 525 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: like it's very yeah, yeah, I see you. I I 526 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: whenever I feel like whenever I have like certainly a 527 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: whole carton of it, I'm just sitting there going like, okay, 528 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 1: all right, what am I I need to make pudding? 529 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: I need to make, need to like fake a pasta dish, 530 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: like I need to do? Like what am I doing 531 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: with all of his milk? What's going to happen? Um? 532 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: What's going to happen? Indeed, I got a cart and 533 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,480 Speaker 1: of half and half in there that's taunting me right now. 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